| 00:00.24 | levi_home | Anna, the cutest little baby girl in the world. ;) |
| 00:00.40 | redbeard2 | hello, Anna! |
| 00:07.46 | elg | !annA ,olleh |
| 00:08.36 | elg | oh I just love it when a UPS package is 3 hours away with an estimated delivery date 4 days from now |
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| 00:19.34 | findlay | maquis: I don't know how to tell you this, but maybe you shouldn't aspire to be an amazon warrior woman |
| 00:19.59 | findlay | I have a feeling the dress requirements would be substandard |
| 00:23.55 | findlay | ÀÃÀ |
| 00:24.30 | findlay | why does gnome-terminal not do the right thing with unicode, as in print the characters? |
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| 02:27.38 | xbmodder_lappy | "It was just a dream bender, there is no such thing as a two" |
| 02:32.41 | nick125_lappy | Instead of getting work done, I get to call speakeasy |
| 02:32.47 | nick125_lappy | ugh |
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| 02:56.54 | findlay | which is better links or elinks? |
| 02:57.55 | dilvie | Hi |
| 02:58.00 | dilvie | elinks? |
| 03:00.04 | dilvie | elinks has more features |
| 03:00.57 | findlay | is has an e on it so it is e+links, therefore it's better |
| 03:01.03 | elg | dilvie: sup? |
| 03:01.26 | elg | dilvie: i didn't know there was a difference |
| 03:01.33 | dilvie | it's basically links, enhanced. |
| 03:01.36 | elg | at least, I think on my system it's just the same prog |
| 03:01.44 | elg | like vi is really vim |
| 03:01.48 | findlay | elg: looks like elinks is some kind of cooperative fork |
| 03:01.53 | elg | dilvie: did you get my .dll? did it work? |
| 03:02.00 | dilvie | elg: elinks supports IPv6, better http auth, etc.. |
| 03:02.06 | findlay | 'enhanced' links |
| 03:02.10 | dilvie | I got it, but I haven't had a chance to test it yet. |
| 03:02.29 | elg | ok. must be busy. we thought maybe that bbq had given you food poisoning |
| 03:02.40 | dilvie | vi is not vime |
| 03:02.42 | dilvie | vim |
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| 03:02.52 | findlay | evim |
| 03:02.56 | elg | but vi on my machine (and many) is really just a link to vim |
| 03:02.58 | elg | in compatible mode |
| 03:03.08 | dilvie | the distro uses the shortcut because it's the same functionality as vi, but better |
| 03:03.10 | elg | although somtimes it's nvi |
| 03:03.16 | elg | right |
| 03:03.26 | elg | same with links on my machine I think. |
| 03:03.32 | elg | but I could be misremembering |
| 03:03.33 | dilvie | it's basically like the future version of vi that never happenned |
| 03:03.35 | dilvie | same with elinks |
| 03:03.40 | findlay | well, gentoo offered me an ebuild of either |
| 03:04.00 | findlay | looks like links is basically replaced by elinks |
| 03:04.14 | findlay | as links replaced lynx |
| 03:04.14 | dilvie | =) |
| 03:04.35 | dilvie | more like as vim replaced vi, but yeah, basically. |
| 03:04.50 | findlay | and lynx is like ed |
| 03:04.54 | dilvie | can one of you proofread my latest post? |
| 03:05.14 | dilvie | http://www.knobtweakers.net/2006/08/natalie-walker-thievery-corporation.html |
| 03:07.01 | elg | 404 |
| 03:07.54 | dilvie | 1m |
| 03:20.20 | findlay | lvm is cool |
| 03:20.58 | findlay | in fact Linux is cool because it's so easy and fun to do things because it's so well designed |
| 03:23.36 | dilvie | http://www.knobtweakers.net/2006/08/natalie-walker-thievery-corporation.html |
| 03:23.37 | dilvie | should work now |
| 03:48.49 | levi_home | Gah. Anna gets upset if I look away from her. |
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| 03:51.34 | levi_home | elg: How do you manage to get anything done with a baby around? |
| 03:57.32 | elg | sometimes I don't |
| 03:59.48 | levi_home | Well, she is happily playing in her bouncer for the moment. |
| 04:01.35 | findlay | how do people live having never heard Beethoven's violin concerto? |
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| 04:05.19 | mheath | Good evening. |
| 04:20.58 | findlay | we lost another one |
| 04:21.19 | mheath | =\ |
| 04:23.32 | mheath | So, it's set. |
| 04:23.39 | mheath | I leave on Sunday/Monday. |
| 04:23.57 | findlay | mheath obviously has a good artistic appreciation of Beethoven |
| 04:24.24 | mheath | Eh? |
| 04:28.58 | mheath | I feel so......scared. |
| 04:29.43 | levi_home | Relax, play a game or something. |
| 04:29.52 | mheath | I have to get to slee |
| 04:29.54 | mheath | sleep |
| 04:29.58 | mheath | I have a busy day tomorrow |
| 04:30.27 | mheath | Have to do as much of the stuff I needed to do in the next 3 weeks that I can do in 24 hours. |
| 04:31.57 | findlay | listen to Beethoven |
| 04:35.57 | dilvie | findlay: do you mean Concerto for Violin and Orchestra in D major? |
| 04:36.18 | findlay | he only wrote one |
| 04:39.03 | dilvie | what is it you love about it? |
| 04:39.11 | dilvie | I love his piano concertos |
| 04:40.19 | findlay | the second movement is so warm and beautiful |
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| 04:40.32 | findlay | same with the 5th piano concerto |
| 04:40.34 | mheath | 3 days from _now_ I will be arriving down in San Diego. |
| 04:41.02 | dilvie | findlay: have you heard the piano concerto arrangement of the same? |
| 04:41.16 | findlay | you mean of the violin concerto? |
| 04:41.20 | dilvie | yes |
| 04:41.24 | dilvie | op 61a |
| 04:41.25 | findlay | I haven't |
| 04:41.27 | findlay | yet |
| 04:41.32 | dilvie | you should. |
| 04:41.48 | findlay | I'm meaning to go through the complete works of Beethoven as soon as I finish Mozart |
| 04:42.24 | dilvie | I don't envy the complete works of mozart listening |
| 04:42.41 | findlay | too bad (: |
| 04:43.10 | mheath | Well, thanks Utah. |
| 04:43.14 | dilvie | he wrote some flippant crap along with his works of pure, unadulterated genius |
| 04:43.18 | mheath | Not sure I'll have a chance to be back on IRC again |
| 04:43.27 | elg | adios |
| 04:43.27 | mheath | I have to install Windows on her tomorrow, for my sister to use |
| 04:43.33 | dilvie | mheath: ever? |
| 04:43.34 | findlay | I don't think so |
| 04:43.48 | mheath | dilvie: for 13 weeks, at least. |
| 04:44.04 | dilvie | mheath: oh, well, enjoy your time away! |
| 04:44.08 | mheath | hahahaha |
| 04:44.33 | findlay | that should teach mheath to squander time on IRC |
| 04:44.44 | dilvie | findlay: mozart was a prankster who was fond of musical jokes |
| 04:44.53 | dilvie | I don't like his musical sense of humor as much as some. |
| 04:44.59 | findlay | dilvie: yes, but not flippant |
| 04:45.15 | findlay | and certainly not crap |
| 04:46.40 | findlay | the musical joke serenade is funny, and a pretty good parody if I'm any judge and not even Mozart should be expected to be in top form all the time |
| 04:46.46 | dilvie | mozart was the weird al yankovich of his day |
| 04:47.59 | dilvie | he would take up a simple melody typical of the popular taste, and then perform a sort of public melodic masturbation all over it. |
| 04:48.13 | findlay | dilvie: the thing about audiophiles like me is I make enough time for music that I'm not so particular about quality as much as I am about completeness |
| 04:48.14 | dilvie | and in the process, murder the soul of the melody |
| 04:48.40 | findlay | now you're talking nonsense |
| 04:49.17 | dilvie | not really. He catered to the rich and famous, and he was fond of making fun of the people who paid him. |
| 04:51.38 | dilvie | I think Mozart was a genius. |
| 04:51.59 | dilvie | certainly one of the most brilliant musicians to ever find fame |
| 04:52.15 | dilvie | but some of his style rubs me the wrong way |
| 04:52.25 | mheath | Though one should note 'genius' != 'likeable' |
| 04:53.24 | dilvie | well, I have a love hate relationship with mozart. |
| 04:53.34 | dilvie | He wrote some of my absolute favorite works. |
| 04:53.47 | findlay | like Cosi fan Tutti |
| 04:54.10 | findlay | symphony no. 25 and 38 |
| 04:54.30 | elg | everyone should just accept the superiority of bach and get it over with. ;-) |
| 04:54.37 | findlay | amen |
| 04:58.10 | dilvie | bach rules |
| 04:58.42 | dilvie | but, urm.. |
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| 04:59.11 | dilvie | bach popularized a style that I really dislike |
| 04:59.33 | findlay | polyphony? (: |
| 04:59.56 | dilvie | the standard satb arrangements you'll find in any modern hymnal |
| 05:00.07 | mheath | Hmm, I'm going to be in Delta Company |
| 05:00.07 | findlay | what's wrong with it? |
| 05:00.50 | dilvie | Bach got away with it because he was very good at it, and he did cool things that created dramatic rhythmic interplay between parts. |
| 05:01.11 | dilvie | Most hymn arrangements are like Bach with all the cool stripped out. |
| 05:01.22 | findlay | but why is it a thing to be gotten away with? |
| 05:01.24 | dilvie | bland bland bland |
| 05:01.30 | findlay | ah |
| 05:01.41 | findlay | I see, and agree, actually |
| 05:01.49 | mheath | Well, anyway. |
| 05:01.52 | mheath | Goodbye, #utah. |
| 05:02.05 | dilvie | bye mheath! =) |
| 05:02.09 | findlay | later |
| 05:02.13 | findlay | ~farewell mheath |
| 05:03.23 | dilvie | bland hymn arrangements (and performances!) are the reason many people fall asleep at church |
| 05:03.25 | dilvie | hahaha |
| 05:03.42 | findlay | s-l-o-w too |
| 05:04.42 | dilvie | slow doesn't have to mean bland |
| 05:04.45 | findlay | dilvie: have you never heard of Moses Hogan? |
| 05:05.18 | findlay | there have been lots of great choral arrangers/composers lately |
| 05:05.29 | dilvie | no |
| 05:05.36 | dilvie | I'm not really a big fan of choral arrangements |
| 05:05.51 | findlay | his 4/6 part choral works are anything but bland |
| 05:05.58 | dilvie | I don't pay as much attention as I should to them. |
| 05:05.59 | findlay | and they aren't weird either |
| 05:06.24 | dilvie | not bland *and* not weird is a difficult combination |
| 05:06.28 | dilvie | =) |
| 05:06.58 | findlay | he comes highly reccommended by me |
| 05:07.05 | findlay | ~wiki Moses Hogan |
| 05:09.47 | dilvie | =) |
| 05:10.14 | dilvie | Do you like downtemo electronica with gorgeous female vocals? |
| 05:10.20 | dilvie | http://www.knobtweakers.net/2006/08/natalie-walker-thievery-corporation.html |
| 05:10.32 | findlay | I cannot say |
| 05:11.41 | findlay | I cannot say |
| 05:11.46 | findlay | sorry |
| 05:12.07 | dilvie | grr |
| 05:12.29 | dilvie | looks like my server just went down |
| 05:12.34 | dilvie | just as I posted that link. |
| 05:13.47 | findlay | what does it mean to speak of the quality of 'vocals' rather than the artistic refinement and quality of a single person's voice? |
| 05:18.47 | findlay | so, that's it. mheath enters the fraternity of the devil dogs and vontrapp is getting married |
| 05:19.18 | findlay | and the rest of us sit here and comtemplate the boringness of our lives |
| 05:45.51 | levi_home | findlay: I'm implmeneting the UM from this year's ICFP contest. |
| 05:46.11 | levi_home | In Common Lisp! |
| 05:59.28 | dilvie | I just calibrated my monitor. |
| 05:59.42 | dilvie | I tried three different calibration tools before I found one that actually did a good job. |
| 05:59.49 | dilvie | What a pain. |
| 06:00.20 | dilvie | I thought adobe gamma would be the way to go, but it had me using the highest brightness setting on my monitor. That was bad. Very bad. |
| 06:00.53 | dilvie | screwed up the contrast between the very light blue and white colors |
| 06:01.27 | dilvie | so I couldn't tell which messages were read in gmail. |
| 06:01.49 | dilvie | Everything is much better looking, now. |
| 06:01.51 | dilvie | Yay! |
| 06:02.12 | dilvie | I should calibrate my printer, too, I suppose. |
| 06:02.16 | dilvie | But I probably won't. |
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| 06:51.00 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_lappy: hey |
| 06:51.43 | xbmodder_lappy | hi |
| 06:51.56 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_lappy: bzflag. spitfire.atarack.com:5152 |
| 06:52.25 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_lappy: its that cool map idea I had. get on :) |
| 06:53.30 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_lappy: are you on? |
| 07:07.44 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_lappy: dude |
| 07:08.26 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 07:08.31 | nick125_lappy | get on |
| 07:08.34 | nick125_lappy | lets try out the map |
| 07:08.53 | nick125_lappy | okay? |
| 07:11.52 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_lappy: are you on? |
| 07:12.19 | xbmodder_lappy | I am working |
| 07:12.21 | xbmodder_lappy | on |
| 07:12.22 | xbmodder_lappy | this |
| 07:13.59 | nick125_lappy | blah :p |
| 07:14.00 | nick125_lappy | you are no fun |
| 07:50.31 | xbmodder_lappy | Can someone explain me the very beggining of v for vendatta |
| 07:50.37 | xbmodder_lappy | like the ancient hanging? |
| 07:51.40 | nick125_lappy | can someone explain alot of things to me? heh |
| 07:54.46 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 07:54.48 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
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| 15:19.59 | elg | ~mock iTunes |
| 15:20.01 | ibot | ACTION pulls iTunes's pants down and shows the world iTunes's pink spotted underwear |
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| 19:12.47 | findlay | #kernel: where linux users in trouble congregate hoping that concentration of need will summon Linux hackers and gurus |
| 19:13.40 | redbeard2 | does it work? |
| 19:13.47 | findlay | no |
| 19:14.02 | findlay | at least not that I've seen |
| 19:14.07 | redbeard2 | so sad |
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| 19:24.17 | Tene | ~findlay lart |
| 19:24.18 | ibot | ACTION recreationally nmaps lart. |
| 19:26.13 | emcnabb | ~onjoin emcnabb |
| 19:26.13 | ibot | onjoin for emcnabb set by emcnabb on Fri Jun 16 17:31:38 2006: ~lart findlay |
| 19:26.31 | emcnabb | how do you unset an onjoin? |
| 19:26.36 | Tene | no idea |
| 19:26.41 | Tene | ~unset onjoin emcnabb |
| 19:26.45 | emcnabb | my IRC skills are lacking |
| 19:26.46 | Tene | ~offjoin emcnabb |
| 19:26.49 | emcnabb | ~onjoin emcnabb |
| 19:26.49 | ibot | onjoin for emcnabb set by emcnabb on Fri Jun 16 17:31:38 2006: ~lart findlay |
| 19:26.52 | emcnabb | ~onjoin emcnabb - |
| 19:26.52 | ibot | ok, emcnabb |
| 19:27.08 | Tene | clever moose |
| 19:33.07 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 19:36.24 | emcnabb | -lart elg |
| 19:36.33 | emcnabb | on Debian! |
| 20:32.59 | herlo | frack! |
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| 21:03.52 | xbmodder_lappy | ~make |
| 21:04.12 | xbmodder_lappy | Anyone here do embedded development |
| 21:09.08 | Tene | mixing mozilla's experimental rounded corners css properties and multiple-color-border properties has interesting results. |
| 21:12.04 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_lappy: hey! |
| 21:12.36 | xbmodder_lappy | *runs* |
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| 21:34.18 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_lappy: what's up! |
| 21:34.45 | xbmodder_lappy | nick125_lappy, I am going swimming gtg |
| 21:36.01 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 21:36.03 | nick125_lappy | right |
| 21:38.40 | levi_home | Wheeee. |
| 21:40.17 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 21:40.22 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, yup |
| 22:24.28 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_lappy: what's up? |
| 22:27.05 | herlo | oobedy doobedy doo!! <adam sandler/> |
| 22:45.50 | xbmodder_lappy | hi |
| 22:45.51 | xbmodder_lappy | back |
| 22:49.08 | nick125_lappy | whats up? |
| 22:55.31 | herlo | fracking rpms for sympa |
| 22:56.12 | herlo | none of them work on fc5 except an older pos one, I was hoping to find a good one to use.... |
| 22:58.26 | Tene | sympa? |
| 22:59.13 | herlo | http://www.sympa.org |
| 22:59.15 | herlo | MLM |
| 22:59.15 | brac | [Sympa - mailing list manager] |
| 23:02.59 | xbmodder_lappy | not much |
| 23:03.08 | xbmodder_lappy | waiting for my serial break out box to arrive |
| 23:05.37 | xbmodder_lappy | http://pastebin.ca/128395 |
| 23:07.34 | maquis | invoke goozbach |
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| 23:30.28 | linuxalien | Yo! |