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| 00:19.13 | herlo | ~lart sjansen |
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| 00:23.14 | vontrapp | how does one get parted to format to fat/vfat? |
| 00:23.39 | Tene | parted just makes partitions. it doesn't format. |
| 00:23.43 | Tene | use mkfs.vfat |
| 00:23.50 | Tene | or something like |
| 00:23.55 | vontrapp | not even that, but set the partition type to vfat |
| 00:24.51 | graphyx | What is the easiest way to search and replace text for all files in a directory? |
| 00:24.57 | vontrapp | or fat32 i guess |
| 00:25.21 | findlay | graphyx: sed |
| 00:25.24 | maquis | the channel's not still oderated, is it? |
| 00:25.37 | Tene | graphyx: I personally use find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 perl -p -i -e 's/foo/bar/g' |
| 00:25.51 | graphyx | cool. You guys are the best! |
| 00:25.56 | Tene | maquis: it is not +m |
| 00:26.14 | findlay | graphyx: `find <the files> -print0 | xargs -0ri sed -i -e "s/A/B/g" {}` |
| 00:26.16 | Tene | which is why the 'm' is missing in your question |
| 00:26.16 | graphyx | maquis: If the channel is odorated, I am glad we don't have SoE, Smell over Ethernet. |
| 00:26.18 | maquis | Tene: cool... just wondering why everyone still has the + signs |
| 00:26.24 | maquis | graphyx: true |
| 00:26.27 | Tene | because nobody took them away |
| 00:26.43 | vontrapp | oops |
| 00:27.11 | maquis | Tene: ool |
| 00:27.19 | maquis | i'm not worried about you guys causing problems |
| 00:27.58 | findlay | what's with maquis and missing first letters to words? |
| 00:28.12 | findlay | and why am I +findlay? |
| 00:28.15 | vontrapp | aquis: shape up those ingers! |
| 00:28.28 | Tene | In some other channels I'm in, the bots have commands to set +m and lock the channel limits and such |
| 00:28.30 | findlay | who changed my nick without my permission!? |
| 00:28.41 | maquis | findlay: sorry... i'm not typing well toay |
| 00:28.41 | Tene | very nice for when attacks come |
| 00:28.48 | findlay | maquis: lol |
| 00:28.57 | maquis | Tene: yeah... |
| 00:29.15 | maquis | apparently now you can page goozbach and tell him that we need an op |
| 00:29.37 | maquis | vontrapp: whatcha tryin to do? |
| 00:29.43 | Tene | ibot: lockdown |
| 00:30.08 | vontrapp | repartition and format a thumb drive |
| 00:31.23 | maquis | vontrapp: hmmm |
| 00:31.40 | vontrapp | which i'm doing because it is not being recognized at all |
| 00:32.07 | vontrapp | but i'm wondering if not being able to set said partition type might be related to not being able to read said type |
| 00:32.16 | vontrapp | i have the filesystem modules loaded |
| 00:32.24 | vontrapp | and i don't think partition types is something seperate |
| 00:36.25 | vontrapp | fdisk can do it no problem |
| 00:36.28 | vontrapp | what's wrong with parted |
| 00:36.29 | vontrapp | ? |
| 00:36.32 | vontrapp | stupid thing |
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| 00:37.16 | maquis | vontrapp: what type are you trying to write? |
| 00:37.27 | vontrapp | fat32 |
| 00:38.25 | maquis | ah |
| 00:38.32 | maquis | there's a program for writing fat32 |
| 00:38.53 | maquis | i can't remember what it is off the top of my head, but i used it a week or two ago |
| 00:39.00 | vontrapp | the thing is, i'm not even making the filesystem yet |
| 00:39.15 | vontrapp | i'm just setting a stupid hex code that says "this partition is fat32" |
| 00:39.22 | vontrapp | why the heck can't parted do that? |
| 00:39.31 | vontrapp | it has it in the options, but it's greyed out |
| 00:39.46 | maquis | i dunno |
| 00:39.50 | maquis | but why do you need to? |
| 00:40.29 | vontrapp | great, "mkfs.vfat: unable to allocate space for FAT image in memory" |
| 00:40.37 | vontrapp | does that mean i don't have enough memory? |
| 00:41.12 | maquis | weird |
| 00:41.25 | vontrapp | because cassandra probably want's to use the drive at school where the computers are probably windows and they would probably freak out if the partition type wasn't set right |
| 00:44.08 | vontrapp | go figure, mkfs fails, but parted is able to format it |
| 00:54.31 | mheath | <levi> Because one of them defaced a government website and was stupid enough to brag about it on irc, and mheath reported it somehow and... talked about it on irc. |
| 00:54.39 | mheath | I didn't talk about it really |
| 00:54.48 | mheath | I was asking for advice on if it would be ethical to report them. |
| 00:55.02 | mheath | I made the mistake of mentioning their IRC nickname though |
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| 00:55.24 | mheath | So, basically....nothing happened to him, and when he was doing a google search for his name saw the log, and got pissed off. |
| 00:55.25 | maquis | mheath: well, they're dorks |
| 00:59.36 | mheath | I love how none of these groups can ever deface the main pages of websites |
| 00:59.50 | mheath | Its always the www2 servers, or some redundant backup system, or some small auxilery system |
| 01:06.21 | beandog | I bet I could deface my website |
| 01:06.41 | beandog | oh wait, its my blog. |
| 01:06.45 | beandog | See. I'm done. |
| 01:06.54 | beandog | :) |
| 01:40.28 | beandog | Hmm |
| 01:40.44 | beandog | Does anyone have an opinion on force redirecting a domain to use / not use www. prefix? |
| 01:40.59 | beandog | I can't decide if I want to set it up on mine or not. |
| 01:41.25 | graphyx | well do you plan on doing more than www stuff with it? |
| 01:41.30 | graphyx | if not, I don't see a point. |
| 01:41.36 | graphyx | like slashdot.org doesn't use www. |
| 01:41.52 | graphyx | but if www is the main feature, why not leave it as default. |
| 01:41.57 | graphyx | And evenually people won't use www. |
| 01:42.10 | graphyx | And think of all those bandwidth you would save not having everyone type www in. |
| 01:44.49 | beandog | yes. I'm all about the energy-saving bonuses. |
| 01:45.01 | beandog | won't someone think of the tubes? |
| 01:45.27 | beandog | meh, Ill just leave it as is. |
| 02:07.01 | graphyx | the tubes: |
| 02:07.02 | graphyx | lol |
| 02:10.07 | tensai | Tene: I prefer http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/ |
| 02:10.08 | brac | [Vendor/Ethernet MAC Address Lookup and Search] |
| 02:12.51 | tensai | ~rlart |
| 02:21.01 | maquis | my head still hurts :( |
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| 02:35.03 | maquis | tensai: really don't need those today |
| 02:35.05 | maquis | but thanks? |
| 02:37.57 | tensai | maquis: your kind really makes me puke |
| 02:40.31 | tensai | maquis: would you like a creme brulee? I have an extra one. |
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| 02:43.27 | maquis | tensai: ooh... that sounds good... |
| 02:43.32 | maquis | does it help headaches? |
| 02:43.46 | tensai | with a taste like this, it would help anything |
| 02:43.56 | maquis | mmmm |
| 02:44.19 | mheath | http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/31/skywalker-jet-packs-in-development/ |
| 02:44.21 | brac | [Skywalker jet packs in development - Engadget] |
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| 03:14.40 | tensai | elg: test took me 15 minutes. of course, I didn't actually write down my answers, but I did think them through. |
| 03:15.03 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.04 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.04 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.04 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.04 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.06 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.23 | elg | std dev .127 |
| 03:16.43 | tensai | class size? |
| 03:23.32 | mheath | I had yummy homemade lasagna for dinner tonight |
| 03:23.51 | elg | 8 |
| 03:23.55 | mheath | with homemade cherry pie (even pitted the cherries myself) for dessert, topped with vanilla ice cream |
| 03:23.58 | elg | so yeah, not enough for real statistical goodness |
| 03:24.20 | mheath | the vanilla ice cream was so smooth and creamy...light, too...it grew to over twice the size while in the ice cream freezer |
| 03:24.29 | elg | 4 would have flunked this exam |
| 03:24.44 | elg | but they're all As or B+ on the labs, which count for most of the grade |
| 03:24.49 | mheath | What was the exam on? |
| 03:24.52 | elg | C |
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| 04:04.29 | findlay | hello |
| 04:04.45 | findlay | how come I'm not +findlay anymore? |
| 04:06.34 | maquis | findlay: because you left and came back |
| 04:06.52 | findlay | but +findlay is not even a data type |
| 04:07.10 | maquis | elg: ouch |
| 04:07.17 | findlay | *findlay would be the most powerful nick I think |
| 04:07.29 | findlay | because it equates to a typeglob |
| 04:08.02 | maquis | mmm... chicken strips |
| 04:08.29 | maquis | elg: which questions did people have the hardest time on? |
| 04:08.36 | maquis | were there any questions that everyone missed? |
| 04:09.13 | maquis | what were they expecting would be on, that wasn't? and what didn't they expect that was there? |
| 04:42.53 | tensai | ~lart email disclaimers |
| 04:46.28 | tensai | ~lart out of office replies |
| 04:46.46 | tensai | -lart them both in the same email |
| 04:47.09 | tensai | -lart elg for good measure |
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| 04:58.43 | levi_home | Good evening. |
| 05:13.47 | levi_home | Sweet, Amazon uses Erlang. |
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| 05:30.52 | maquis | levi_home: amazon uses everything |
| 05:31.14 | levi_home | Apparently. |
| 05:32.07 | maquis | :) |
| 05:32.10 | maquis | i'm not joking |
| 05:32.24 | maquis | i wouldn't e surprised if there's some team that has something using lisp |
| 05:33.00 | maquis | tensai: whatever you're downloading, i want some :) |
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| 05:41.34 | maquis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYQUsp-jxDQ&search=basshunter |
| 05:44.45 | levi_home | maquis: Is that the Boten Anna song? |
| 05:44.45 | maquis | er... here's the part with subtitles |
| 05:44.48 | maquis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33Rhq01A7GM&mode=related&search=basshunter |
| 05:44.55 | maquis | yeah... it's about an irc bot |
| 05:45.14 | maquis | that's just entertaining |
| 05:46.02 | levi_home | I could have sworn I gave a link to that song before. Fun stuff. :) |
| 05:46.16 | levi_home | I won't be watching it again; it was stuck in my head for weeks afterward. |
| 05:46.40 | maquis | it's a kinda cathcy tune |
| 05:47.23 | levi_home | Too catchy. It's an earworm. :) |
| 05:47.46 | maquis | hmmm... a bot that keeps the channel clean.... |
| 05:47.48 | maquis | hmmmm |
| 05:48.20 | levi_home | You should have been here earlier when mheath's new friends dropped by. |
| 05:48.27 | maquis | yeah |
| 05:48.30 | maquis | i noticed |
| 05:48.37 | maquis | i added some bans to our banlist |
| 05:48.45 | maquis | (tis why i have an @) |
| 05:48.46 | levi_home | He really ought to watch who he hangs out with. |
| 05:48.54 | maquis | he doesn't hang with them |
| 05:49.06 | maquis | he heard them talking on an irc channel about defacing a gov. website |
| 05:49.14 | maquis | so, he reported them |
| 05:49.31 | maquis | and they weren't very happy when they figured out who had reported them |
| 05:51.40 | levi_home | Yeah, I got the story, I was just making a joke. |
| 05:51.56 | maquis | yeah |
| 05:52.16 | maquis | i'm slightly annoyed that none of us ops were around |
| 05:59.26 | maquis | levi_home: which one? |
| 05:59.28 | levi_home | It's the one where the doctor is daydreaming. |
| 05:59.41 | maquis | anything else? |
| 06:00.10 | levi_home | An alien race is spying on Voyager... though the doctor's daydreams. |
| 06:00.20 | maquis | j,,, |
| 06:00.46 | levi_home | What? |
| 06:02.15 | maquis | that was an off-by-one while typing "hmmm" |
| 06:10.25 | levi_home | Ahh. |
| 06:10.43 | maquis | :) |
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| 06:31.51 | maquis | wow... |
| 06:31.54 | maquis | amazon grocery |
| 06:32.05 | *** join/#utah wps (n=wps@70.98.110.105) |
| 06:32.43 | levi_home | maquis: You try it? |
| 06:32.49 | maquis | no... i haven't |
| 06:33.02 | maquis | i dunno.. usually, i go shopping because i need something right away |
| 06:33.19 | levi_home | If you plan things ahead... |
| 06:33.21 | maquis | like... i go shopping when my cupboards are pretty bare... (or just really random) |
| 06:33.25 | maquis | yeah |
| 06:33.35 | maquis | although... i have to wonder... if you include shipping, is it really worth it? |
| 06:34.00 | maquis | wow... they don't have ramen? |
| 06:34.07 | findlay | ha |
| 06:34.35 | maquis | oh... good... they do have mac&cheese |
| 06:34.48 | findlay | tetris time |
| 06:34.54 | maquis | findlay: tetris? |
| 06:34.59 | maquis | i've been playing nethack all day |
| 06:34.59 | findlay | yeah |
| 06:35.11 | levi_home | Ahh, but you can get Terra Chips! |
| 06:35.13 | findlay | ~nethack maquis |
| 06:35.18 | ibot | maquis died in the Gnomish Mines on level 3. Poisoned by a giant killer bee. DYWYPI maquis ? |
| 06:35.25 | maquis | nah |
| 06:35.38 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:35.39 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.43 | maquis | that's the one game i wish i could get on my ipod |
| 06:36.49 | maquis | or on a palm or something |
| 06:43.58 | Tene | I have it on my pocketpc |
| 06:45.16 | levi_home | Hey, amazon grocery has diapers. |
| 06:46.37 | levi_home | maquis: Do you have a palm? |
| 06:47.40 | Tene | http://nethack-palm.sourceforge.net/ |
| 06:47.41 | brac | [Nethack-Palm Porting Project] |
| 06:48.03 | levi_home | I think I had nethack on my Zaurus at one point. |
| 06:48.18 | levi_home | I never got the hang of it. |
| 06:48.31 | Tene | http://www.retrobits.net/palmos/nethack.shtml |
| 06:48.32 | brac | [NetHack and SlashEM for Palm OS] |
| 06:48.55 | Tene | I prefer adom, personally. |
| 06:51.35 | levi_home | What's adom? |
| 06:51.47 | levi_home | Hrm. The cheapest item in Amazon's grocery store is... |
| 06:51.57 | levi_home | Pantiliners. |
| 06:52.00 | Tene | it's a similar game |
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| 06:59.22 | maquis | levi_home: i have an m100 someplace |
| 11:07.17 | mheath | ScriptBlue was yet another 'friend' |
| 11:07.33 | mheath | or at least a random person from out of state who decided to come in and priv msg me |
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| 12:11.46 | Nomenumbra | LOL CUNT CUNT FUCK LOL LOL CUNT CUNT FUCK LOL |
| 12:11.51 | Nomenumbra | i curse yer firstbornes! |
| 12:11.54 | *** part/#utah Nomenumbra (n=Nomenumb@ip51ce9756.speed.planet.nl) |
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| 12:56.54 | *** mode/#utah [+b *!*@ip51ce9756.speed.planet.nl] by goozbach |
| 12:57.46 | goozbach | hmm I wonder if it's time to go +i for a bit... |
| 12:58.09 | goozbach | elg, Jayce^, maquis ? |
| 12:58.39 | goozbach | ibot have a language script? |
| 12:58.54 | redbeard1 | wow, what a friendly room this morning |
| 13:00.07 | mheath | redbeard1, yes. This is the "how dare you reported my illegal actions, mheath! Even though this is almost a year later, I just googled myself and saw the IRC log where you mentioned it! I'm going to have my 31337 team of hackers come and swear at you!" morning |
| 13:00.23 | *** mode/#utah [+m] by goozbach |
| 13:00.42 | *** mode/#utah [+vvvv \me atoponce beandog bytheway] by goozbach |
| 13:00.43 | *** mode/#utah [+vvvv EvilHerbivore findlay graphyx herlo] by goozbach |
| 13:00.43 | *** mode/#utah [+vv jlp_work jlp_work] by goozbach |
| 13:01.27 | *** mode/#utah [+vvvv \me atoponce beandog bytheway] by goozbach |
| 13:01.27 | *** mode/#utah [+vvvv EvilHerbivore findlay graphyx herlo] by goozbach |
| 13:01.27 | *** mode/#utah [+vvvv jlp_work jnbek JoshH levi_home] by goozbach |
| 13:01.27 | *** mode/#utah [+vvvv mheath mrpull_ nick125_lappy nick125] by goozbach |
| 13:01.27 | *** mode/#utah [+vvv QBFreak redbeard1 rsimpkins] by goozbach |
| 13:01.56 | emcnabb | good morning |
| 13:01.58 | *** mode/#utah [+vvvv RyanE_ ScytheBlade1 Supaplex synic] by goozbach |
| 13:01.58 | *** mode/#utah [+vv tewk TheTiGuR] by goozbach |
| 13:02.05 | *** mode/#utah [+vvv WoodsDog wps xbmodder] by goozbach |
| 13:02.54 | redbeard1 | ah, script kiddies. so much fun. |
| 13:02.59 | goozbach | Kalkin: I don't reconginse you, /msg me telling me if I really know you and I'll voice you as well |
| 13:05.25 | goozbach | anyone else recognise Kalkin ? |
| 13:05.33 | redbeard1 | not offhand |
| 13:07.01 | redbeard1 | what about tristanbob_? |
| 13:07.36 | goozbach | ohh and bzbob |
| 13:07.50 | *** mode/#utah [+vv tristanbob_ bzob_] by goozbach |
| 13:07.53 | goozbach | sorry guys |
| 13:07.56 | goozbach | :) |
| 13:07.59 | redbeard1 | i didn't recognize bzob_, but his ip looked legit |
| 13:08.25 | *** topic/#utah by goozbach -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See openclue.org/ut/, sllug.org, |
| 13:08.26 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.33 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.42 | goozbach | ok lets try that again |
| 13:09.31 | *** topic/#utah by goozbach -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See openclue.org/ut/, sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com, utaug.org, ubuntu-utah.org | |
| 13:09.33 | redbeard1 | what happens if somebody legit logs off and back on? do they automatically get +v again? |
| 13:11.06 | *** topic/#utah by goozbach -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See openclue.org/ut/, sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com, utaug.org, ubuntu-utah.org | #utah has gone +m for a little bit. Contact an op to gain voice. |
| 13:11.11 | goozbach | there |
| 13:11.16 | goozbach | third time's a charm |
| 13:11.25 | redbeard1 | there we go |
| 13:11.26 | goozbach | redbeard1: I don't think so |
| 13:12.04 | goozbach | I haven't set up access levels for any of you, just given voice |
| 13:12.26 | redbeard1 | makes sense |
| 13:12.31 | goozbach | I'll be watching closely |
| 13:12.36 | redbeard1 | i'll try not to get kicked then |
| 13:12.44 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:12.45 | redbeard1 | you know, by my own connection |
| 13:12.50 | goozbach | ohh oops |
| 13:12.58 | goozbach | :) |
| 13:13.36 | redbeard1 | so, my divx player seems to have died |
| 13:14.45 | redbeard1 | fortunately, this is the one time i opted for newegg's 2-year service plan |
| 13:14.51 | goozbach | ohh |
| 13:14.56 | redbeard1 | i've only had it for about 6 months |
| 13:15.33 | redbeard1 | fine. be that way. |
| 13:16.41 | goozbach | sorry |
| 13:16.43 | goozbach | gotta work |
| 13:17.06 | redbeard1 | no worries |
| 13:17.13 | goozbach | at $70/hour I feel kinda guilty spending ALL my time on IRC |
| 13:17.22 | redbeard1 | heh |
| 13:21.04 | *** join/#utah RyanE (i=Piadas@rberick.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 13:22.07 | redbeard1 | invoke goozbach RyanE needs voice |
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| 13:33.47 | *** mode/#utah [+v mheath] by goozbach |
| 13:33.54 | *** mode/#utah [+v hatchmt] by goozbach |
| 13:34.07 | goozbach | redbeard1: invoke ops |
| 13:34.14 | goozbach | would probally be better |
| 13:34.19 | redbeard1 | ah. okay. |
| 13:34.26 | goozbach | seeing as I realized I left my phone home |
| 13:34.26 | redbeard1 | hey, you forgot RyanE |
| 13:34.35 | *** mode/#utah [+v RyanE] by goozbach |
| 13:34.40 | redbeard1 | there we go |
| 13:34.41 | goozbach | sorry dood |
| 13:35.04 | redbeard1 | i hate it when i leave my phone at home |
| 13:36.42 | goozbach | hmm "mheath" ne "RyanE" go figure |
| 13:37.32 | redbeard1 | i thought it was odd |
| 13:38.23 | goozbach | pepsi not ingested yet |
| 13:38.50 | redbeard1 | Goozbach::Pepsi->ingest(); |
| 13:38.57 | redbeard1 | hrm. |
| 13:39.12 | redbeard1 | $goozbach->ingest('pepsi'); |
| 13:39.15 | redbeard1 | i like that better |
| 13:40.32 | goozbach | blood level too high in my caffiene system |
| 13:40.39 | redbeard1 | yeah, that's harsh |
| 13:41.35 | goozbach | redbeard1: I mentioned my pork roast I made sunday, correct? |
| 13:42.31 | redbeard1 | aye. it sounded good. |
| 13:42.37 | redbeard1 | fall-apart good. |
| 13:42.40 | goozbach | yah |
| 13:42.46 | redbeard1 | you failed to blog about it tho. |
| 13:42.55 | goozbach | I made pork sandwiches yesterday |
| 13:42.58 | goozbach | ohh nummy |
| 13:43.08 | goozbach | I've failed to blog about a lot of things |
| 13:43.10 | redbeard1 | that sounds good |
| 13:43.17 | goozbach | I've been trying to get wordpress working |
| 13:43.25 | goozbach | and looking good |
| 13:45.01 | redbeard1 | ah, wordpress |
| 13:45.16 | redbeard1 | i've been thinking about giving it a try |
| 13:48.40 | goozbach | tell me what you think of the layout: http://blog.friocorte.com/wordpress/ |
| 13:57.12 | redbeard1 | it feels... upside down. |
| 13:57.26 | redbeard1 | if that makes sense. |
| 13:57.53 | redbeard1 | love the article tho. it's always been one of my favorites. |
| 13:58.21 | redbeard1 | you ever try out lorem ipsum ice cream? good stuff. |
| 13:59.06 | goozbach | ohh |
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| 14:10.04 | *** mode/#utah [+vv graphyx wps] by goozbach |
| 14:13.11 | graphyx | Whats up with the +v's now? |
| 14:13.17 | graphyx | Didn't used to make any difference... |
| 14:13.24 | graphyx | or is the channel moderated now? |
| 14:13.55 | redbeard1 | graphyx: we had a script kiddie infestation |
| 14:14.10 | graphyx | Oh really? |
| 14:14.15 | graphyx | What happened? |
| 14:14.25 | graphyx | I mean we have had xbmodder around for a while? |
| 14:14.29 | graphyx | Did he get some friends in here? |
| 14:14.53 | redbeard1 | i think mheath would be the best one to answer that. i'm still not clear on the whole story. |
| 14:15.00 | graphyx | Ok |
| 14:16.21 | redbeard1 | mheath: you around? |
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| 14:44.31 | *** mode/#utah [+v tiwula] by goozbach |
| 14:45.03 | goozbach | graphyx: mheath said some stuff that some kiddies took offence to and so the've been profanity bombing the channel |
| 14:45.23 | goozbach | hence I set +m until they finish with their tantrum |
| 14:48.34 | nick125_lappy | nice |
| 14:50.35 | nick125_lappy | here's another option: write up a script that anyone that says profanity gets a boot, and, if they do it three times, it bans them |
| 14:51.22 | nick125_lappy | I wrote a script like that a while back, except it was for whenever someone said "skype" (don't ask..) :) |
| 14:51.29 | goozbach | I'm working on an ibot plugin |
| 14:51.33 | redbeard1 | nick125_lappy: i think he might have been asking for help with such a script an hour or to ago |
| 14:52.11 | goozbach | basicly if three or more people (on the trusted list) vote a person out, ibot will ban them |
| 14:52.22 | goozbach | and give them the boot |
| 14:52.28 | goozbach | or something like that |
| 14:52.33 | nick125_lappy | goozbach: that's a cool plugin |
| 14:53.03 | goozbach | as of right now, my IRC client it configured to page all teh ops if someone says "invoke ops" |
| 14:56.58 | redbeard1 | invoke cheesecake |
| 14:57.05 | redbeard1 | it was worth a shot |
| 14:57.20 | goozbach | ohh that'd be nice |
| 14:57.21 | redbeard1 | ~cheesecake |
| 14:57.27 | redbeard1 | ~invoke cheesecake |
| 14:57.29 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 14:57.33 | goozbach | ibot: what is cheesecake? |
| 14:57.36 | ibot | goozbach: what are you talking about? |
| 14:57.51 | goozbach | ibot!!! have you forgotten!? |
| 14:58.04 | nick125_lappy | this should be fun.. |
| 14:58.48 | redbeard1 | ibot: cheesecake is statistically the most popular dessert ordered in restaurants |
| 14:58.49 | ibot | okay, redbeard1 |
| 14:59.16 | nick125_lappy | writing this nick tracking code..bah.. |
| 14:59.29 | nick125_lappy | I'm bored :P |
| 14:59.35 | nick125_lappy | so, why not write a bot |
| 15:00.17 | nick125_lappy | should it be if someone swears X times in Y amount of time, they get booted? |
| 15:02.33 | goozbach | nick125_lappy: feel free to write a bot, just don't test it in here |
| 15:02.47 | nick125_lappy | haha, that would be slightly....bad |
| 15:02.52 | goozbach | yeah |
| 15:03.02 | goozbach | just making sure we're on the same page |
| 15:03.12 | goozbach | a little pre-emptive notice |
| 15:03.26 | *** join/#utah mheath_ (i=Mike@c-67-182-231-23.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 15:03.28 | nick125_lappy | hehe |
| 15:04.36 | *** mode/#utah [+v mheath_] by goozbach |
| 15:04.54 | goozbach | connection problems mheath_ ? |
| 15:06.26 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net) |
| 15:06.35 | elg | -seen dilvie |
| 15:07.02 | elg | brac, hello |
| 15:07.18 | *** join/#utah brac (i=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net) |
| 15:07.23 | *** mode/#utah [+v brac] by goozbach |
| 15:07.23 | elg | ~seen dilvie |
| 15:07.29 | ibot | dilvie <n=dilvie@c-67-166-126-133.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 3d 3h 26m 36s ago, saying: 'who's going to the bbq tonight?'. |
| 15:08.30 | goozbach | so elg when you tell brac hello he refreshes? |
| 15:09.14 | goozbach | -seen elg |
| 15:09.14 | brac | elg was last seen 2 minutes and 48 seconds ago, joining #utaug |
| 15:09.48 | redbeard1 | ibot: what is #utaug ? |
| 15:09.53 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, redbeard1 |
| 15:10.03 | redbeard1 | ibot: what is cheesecake? |
| 15:10.05 | ibot | redbeard1: what are you talking about? |
| 15:10.52 | redbeard1 | oh man. he's forgotten already. |
| 15:11.00 | goozbach | ibot: cheesecake is also goozbach fuel |
| 15:11.01 | ibot | okay, goozbach |
| 15:11.13 | redbeard1 | ibot: what is cheesecake |
| 15:11.17 | ibot | redbeard1: I think you lost me on that one |
| 15:11.30 | redbeard1 | ibot: what is the meaning of life? |
| 15:11.33 | ibot | redbeard1: what are you talking about? |
| 15:11.54 | Jayce^ | ~42 |
| 15:11.55 | ibot | 42 is probably the answer to life the universe and everything, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything |
| 15:12.04 | redbeard1 | ~cheesecake |
| 15:12.06 | ibot | somebody said cheesecake was statistically the most popular dessert ordered in restaurants, or goozbach fuel |
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| 15:12.31 | *** mode/#utah [+v bigdog_ut] by goozbach |
| 15:12.50 | redbeard1 | goozbach: you might want to give elg voice |
| 15:13.05 | *** mode/#utah [+v elg] by goozbach |
| 15:13.19 | redbeard1 | elg: you owe me, pal |
| 15:13.23 | goozbach | redbeard1: you didn't see anything he's posted up to this point? |
| 15:13.29 | redbeard1 | nope |
| 15:13.34 | goozbach | hmm |
| 15:13.42 | goozbach | ibot sure did |
| 15:13.49 | goozbach | interesting |
| 15:14.09 | goozbach | must be the ops which can see things |
| 15:14.29 | goozbach | which is different than the irc deamon that I'm using |
| 15:15.19 | *** join/#utah [phoenyx] (n=tthorley@64.147.152.13) |
| 15:18.27 | *** join/#utah spr (n=spr@otherlab.cs.byu.edu) |
| 15:19.50 | *** mode/#utah [+vv spr [phoenyx]] by goozbach |
| 15:20.30 | [phoenyx] | goozbach: thanks |
| 15:20.45 | goozbach | np |
| 15:20.58 | goozbach | just don't make me hurt you :) |
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| 15:22.24 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 15:23.31 | nick125_lappy | goozbach: the reason that ops can see is because of +z |
| 15:23.38 | goozbach | hmm |
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| 15:23.48 | goozbach | wasn't aware of that mode |
| 15:23.53 | *** mode/#utah [+v neybar] by goozbach |
| 15:23.57 | goozbach | morning |
| 15:25.24 | goozbach | who here doesn't have a registered nick? |
| 15:25.49 | redbeard1 | redbeard1 and redbeard2 are both registered |
| 15:27.38 | neybar | I have two nicks: neybar and neybar_work. they are both registered |
| 15:27.49 | Tene | are they grouped? |
| 15:27.58 | goozbach | which means only registered nicks can join |
| 15:28.07 | goozbach | how many would I aleniate? |
| 15:28.07 | neybar | no, I wasn't aware that you could group them |
| 15:28.18 | nick125_lappy | not grouped, linked :) |
| 15:28.34 | neybar | did the discussion with mheath and his script kiddies get out of hand? |
| 15:29.03 | redbeard1 | neybar: they seemed to enjoy popping in and f-bombing the place |
| 15:29.40 | Tene | Heh. |
| 15:29.54 | [phoenyx] | I could register my nick |
| 15:29.56 | goozbach | we'll lift the +m in a while |
| 15:30.43 | levi | They came in yesterday and started yelling at them. One of them got offended when I characterized them as silly kids. Heh. |
| 15:30.44 | nick125_lappy | my custom IRC code is nto pretty.. |
| 15:30.50 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 15:30.54 | redbeard1 | that would alienate people that like hopping nicks, like certain people i could name |
| 15:30.57 | levi | s/at them/at him/ |
| 15:31.24 | levi | redbeard1: Hopefully they will stop hopping nicks, then. :) |
| 15:32.27 | redbeard1 | tragic. how would they ever live? |
| 15:35.27 | goozbach | idlerpg is the only thing keeping me from hopping nicks |
| 15:35.35 | goozbach | :) |
| 15:35.42 | goozbach | it's a stiff penalty |
| 15:36.09 | redbeard1 | idlerpg? |
| 15:36.21 | nick125_lappy | yeah |
| 15:36.26 | nick125_lappy | its a RPG that you idle in |
| 15:36.37 | nick125_lappy | that's the point of it.. |
| 15:36.48 | redbeard1 | that sounds, um. well, intense isn't the right word, is it? |
| 15:37.19 | levi | Yes, it's extremely silly. Therefore perfectly suited to most denizens of #utah. ;) |
| 15:38.24 | redbeard1 | aye |
| 15:38.58 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net) |
| 15:39.00 | levi | My wife made this absolutely delicious pasta sauce last night. |
| 15:39.10 | redbeard1 | oh yeah? what kind? |
| 15:39.20 | levi | A red sauce with cream. |
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| 15:39.45 | levi | Also fresh tomatoes, herbs, mushrooms, some chicken, and some other veggies. |
| 15:40.13 | neybar | I read that as "A red sauce with ice cream" |
| 15:40.17 | *** mode/#utah [+vv elg amcnabb] by goozbach |
| 15:40.25 | redbeard1 | you know, there's a place called the soup kitchen in sugarhouse that makes a tomato soup with cream. it's pretty stellar. |
| 15:40.46 | levi | redbeard1: Mmmm. Have you tried Big City Soup's tomato gorgonzola soup? |
| 15:40.56 | levi | That's some good stuff. |
| 15:41.15 | redbeard1 | tomato gorgonzola? no, but that _does_ sound good. what's big city soup? where is that? |
| 15:41.16 | levi | Oh, the sauce also had some bacon in it, and some garlic and onion I think. |
| 15:41.52 | redbeard1 | dude, that sounds killer |
| 15:42.02 | levi | It really was. |
| 15:42.09 | goozbach | bacon!!! |
| 15:42.11 | goozbach | yum |
| 15:42.35 | redbeard1 | mmm, bacon |
| 15:42.58 | levi | We get this Winder Farms applewood smoked bacon sometimes. |
| 15:43.04 | levi | It's sooooo good. |
| 15:43.05 | redbeard1 | that emeril guy may have lost his novelty, but he's still right about one thing: pork fat does, in fact, rule |
| 15:43.09 | goozbach | this one time, when I was dating a vegitarian, I told her I was going to make her some bacon-fat soap. |
| 15:43.20 | *** join/#utah jsmith (n=jsmith@smithfam.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 15:43.46 | goozbach | she said: "I won't put in in my stomach. And you want me to rub it all over my naked body" |
| 15:44.00 | levi | ... |
| 15:44.04 | redbeard1 | whoa. |
| 15:44.07 | goozbach | I thought it was funny |
| 15:44.15 | *** mode/#utah [+v jsmith] by goozbach |
| 15:44.20 | goozbach | so anyhow |
| 15:44.30 | neybar | that would be an alluring body scent... |
| 15:44.36 | *** join/#utah sjansen (n=sjansen@enterprise.abswa.com) |
| 15:44.39 | neybar | for a short period of time. |
| 15:44.53 | goozbach | neybar: my thoughts exactly |
| 15:44.56 | redbeard1 | actually, from what i understand, bacon fat soap doesn't really smell all that much like bacon. it's tragic. |
| 15:45.11 | *** join/#utah Robdor (n=rob@208.187.198.179) |
| 15:45.19 | goozbach | I made some with lavendar |
| 15:45.20 | sjansen | ~console redbeard1 |
| 15:45.21 | ibot | ACTION gives redbeard1 the consolation moose |
| 15:45.28 | *** mode/#utah [+v sjansen] by goozbach |
| 15:45.41 | neybar | why do you get a consolation moose? |
| 15:45.57 | redbeard1 | ibot: i'm flattered, but what is a consolation moose? |
| 15:46.00 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, redbeard1 |
| 15:46.02 | goozbach | sjansen ~console 'ed you |
| 15:46.15 | goozbach | ~console bobz |
| 15:46.17 | ibot | ACTION gives bobz the consolation moose |
| 15:46.18 | sjansen | redbeard1: It's a little something to help you deal with the tragedy. |
| 15:46.20 | redbeard1 | ~lart sjansen |
| 15:47.09 | levi | Oh my. I just realized you were talking about soAp and not soUp. It makes SO much more sense now. :) |
| 15:47.27 | redbeard1 | levi: yeah, i read the same thing, initially. |
| 15:47.27 | sjansen | Ick, SOAP is a dirty protocol. |
| 15:48.33 | redbeard1 | goozbach: even tho Robdor is a ruby guy, maybe you should give him +v too |
| 15:49.28 | goozbach | redbeard1: you're his sponsor. |
| 15:49.31 | *** mode/#utah [+v Robdor] by goozbach |
| 15:49.57 | redbeard1 | he's on openclue |
| 15:50.10 | Robdor | huh? |
| 15:50.10 | redbeard1 | but he's okay anyway |
| 15:50.10 | goozbach | no offence Robdor, I have no recollection of you before the incident yesterday |
| 15:50.20 | goozbach | nevermind |
| 15:50.20 | Robdor | Yeah, I don't really speak up that much. |
| 15:50.36 | sjansen | ~chat with Robdor |
| 15:53.21 | [phoenyx] | redbeard1: I live pretty close to the soup kitchen. It is really good. |
| 15:54.06 | redbeard1 | [phoenyx]: do you? i used to know quite a few people in that area |
| 15:54.17 | levi | redbeard1: Oh, and Big City Soup is downtown, on State St. I think. |
| 15:54.32 | goozbach | then I talk about soap and bacon |
| 15:54.35 | goozbach | hmmm |
| 15:54.42 | levi | Er, no, it's on Main. |
| 15:54.45 | [phoenyx] | chunky bacon! |
| 15:54.53 | levi | And they've got a location in the Gateway too. http://www.bigcitysoup.com/ |
| 15:54.53 | brac | [B I G C I T Y S O U P] |
| 15:55.24 | redbeard1 | i like their logo |
| 15:55.36 | goozbach | so what is John C dvorak's claim to fame? |
| 15:55.43 | redbeard1 | reminds me of the friendly toast in nh |
| 15:56.00 | levi | Huh, they have gingered lemonade. I bet that tastes good. |
| 15:56.13 | [phoenyx] | goozbach: professional trolling |
| 15:56.14 | redbeard1 | whoa. this place looks awesome! |
| 15:56.57 | *** join/#utah Tene_ (n=tene@poipu/supporter/slacker/tene) |
| 15:57.39 | levi | I've never actually been to the location, but I've had their soup via catering several times. |
| 15:57.43 | Tene_ | Wow. |
| 15:57.58 | *** mode/#utah [+v Tene_] by goozbach |
| 15:58.02 | levi | The office brings it in for lunch during all hands meetings occasionally, and I had some at a wedding reception. |
| 15:58.12 | Tene_ | That was... quite the sudden downpour. |
| 15:58.15 | levi | Really good soup. I love the chicken curry. |
| 15:58.23 | redbeard1 | hey, it doesn't say how much the soup costs. it has prices for everything else, but not the soup |
| 15:58.24 | Tene_ | I haven't seen that much rain in a long time. |
| 15:58.58 | *** mode/#utah [-m] by goozbach |
| 15:59.29 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.56 | Tene | It went from no rain to the heaviest downpour I've seen in quite a while in just a few seconds. |
| 16:01.47 | Robdor | Where at Tene? |
| 16:01.53 | Tene | Taylorsville. |
| 16:01.57 | Tene | It's gone now. |
| 16:02.00 | goozbach | welcome to life in Florida |
| 16:04.42 | *** join/#utah thaabit (n=garth@pollux.northsky.com) |
| 16:05.17 | Tene | apparently it's over holladay now |
| 16:05.28 | Tene | I'm tracking it by alert messages from hosts going down. >.> |
| 16:05.37 | *** mode/#utah [+v thaabit] by Jayce^ |
| 16:06.42 | nick125_lappy | grr... |
| 16:07.38 | nick125_lappy | it isn't kicking for some reason |
| 16:08.53 | nick125_lappy | i know its calling the kick function, but, it just isn't kicking |
| 16:10.01 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 16:12.15 | \me | Tene: you're in Taylorsville? |
| 16:12.21 | Tene | Yeah. |
| 16:12.31 | \me | That's where I live too |
| 16:12.45 | \me | Barely missed the storm on my way to work though |
| 16:12.45 | Tene | Huh. |
| 16:12.53 | Tene | That's tragic. |
| 16:12.57 | \me | where in Taylorsville? |
| 16:13.04 | Tene | 54th and redwood |
| 16:13.28 | \me | I'm at 62nd S and 32nd W |
| 16:13.39 | redbeard1 | levi: hey! this soup place is only open monday thru friday! |
| 16:13.49 | \me | I've been saying for awhile we should start a west side LUG |
| 16:13.57 | Tene | 'kay |
| 16:13.58 | \me | redbeard1: no soup for you! |
| 16:14.12 | levi | redbeard1: Looks like you'll need to take a long lunch. ;) |
| 16:14.16 | redbeard1 | oh great. jesse is the soup nazi now. |
| 16:14.31 | \me | I'm just excited because I have a + in front of my nick now |
| 16:15.15 | \me | what is that + anyway? |
| 16:15.17 | redbeard1 | ~soupnazi |
| 16:15.51 | Tene | it means that you can talk when the channel is moderated. |
| 16:16.11 | \me | awesome |
| 16:16.17 | \me | talk is good |
| 16:16.32 | redbeard1 | talk is cheap |
| 16:16.40 | redbeard1 | steep and cheap |
| 16:17.26 | *** join/#utah synic (n=squish@pdpc/supporter/student/synic) |
| 16:18.11 | \me | .com |
| 16:18.14 | levi | http://digital-lifestyles.info/display_page.asp?section=cm&id=2653 |
| 16:18.16 | brac | [Bible Converted Into Text For SMS Generation - Digital-Lifestyles.info] |
| 16:18.25 | \me | PC |
| 16:18.28 | \me | Park City |
| 16:19.56 | nick125_lappy | wee |
| 16:20.24 | nick125_lappy | I need a few people to test my profanity bot |
| 16:21.05 | nick125_lappy | #bottesting, say the 4 letter word that starts with a f |
| 16:21.13 | redbeard1 | food |
| 16:21.26 | nick125_lappy | no, the bad word that starts with a f |
| 16:21.26 | redbeard1 | fmly |
| 16:21.33 | nick125_lappy | and, not in here, in #bottesting |
| 16:21.34 | maquis | nick125_lappy: you could try going to #botpark and see if you can get any of the bots there to help |
| 16:21.34 | \me | fast |
| 16:21.46 | \me | fart |
| 16:22.08 | \me | stfu |
| 16:22.19 | \me | is that a word now? |
| 16:22.49 | Tene | Probably |
| 16:22.54 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 16:23.17 | *** join/#utah nick125_1appy (n=nick@dsl093-220-003.abq1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:24.13 | \me | lol's a 3-letter word |
| 16:24.29 | nick125_blah | hrm |
| 16:24.34 | nick125_blah | thats a problem |
| 16:24.50 | nick125_blah | if you change your nick, it won't transfer your previous offenses over |
| 16:27.36 | *** join/#utah nick125_1appy (n=nick@dsl093-220-003.abq1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:27.47 | Tene | anyone know much about perl dieing with 'Illegal instruction'? |
| 16:29.49 | nick125_test1 | yay, it works now with nick changes |
| 16:31.17 | \me | rain just hit PC - not very impressive here |
| 16:31.31 | maquis | yay for rain! |
| 16:31.42 | \me | doesn't compare w/ Texas or VA at least |
| 16:33.32 | macnewbold | \me: you probably missed most of it... on this side of the mountain it was quite intense |
| 16:33.51 | nick125_lappy | okay, more people needed to test profanity detection bot! |
| 16:34.50 | \me | maquis: what cities in Utah start with PC? |
| 16:34.55 | maquis | nick125_lappy: are you trying to make a bot like Anna (in the youtube movie) |
| 16:35.06 | maquis | \me: i'm trying to figure that out... |
| 16:35.51 | maquis | i'm going through all the cities in utah that i can think of, and not coming up with a PC yet |
| 16:36.14 | maquis | i found PG, though... which is close... |
| 16:36.25 | macnewbold | Park City |
| 16:36.30 | maquis | ah |
| 16:36.36 | macnewbold | and the main body of the storm hasn't gotten that far yet |
| 16:36.41 | maquis | ok |
| 16:36.47 | macnewbold | the latest image I can find shows it near alta more or less |
| 16:36.50 | macnewbold | but not as far as PC yet |
| 16:37.08 | maquis | i was mainly thinking places around provo, seeing as that's the main place where i know cities |
| 16:37.18 | macnewbold | when \me said "rain just hit PC" I thought he meant it hit his PC, as in a leaky roof or something |
| 16:37.37 | macnewbold | yeah, there are some weird people who live on the wrong side of the mountains |
| 16:38.18 | JoshH | park city? |
| 16:38.30 | JoshH | ah mac got it |
| 16:38.45 | maquis | macnewbold: which one is the wrong side? |
| 16:40.24 | macnewbold | the park city side, on the east side |
| 16:40.34 | macnewbold | SLC and provo are on the west side of the monutains |
| 16:40.44 | macnewbold | s/monut/mount/ |
| 16:41.09 | maquis | oh... |
| 16:41.27 | macnewbold | and as an example, we've got \me |
| 16:45.43 | nick125_lappy | I need more people to test the bot! :) |
| 16:45.46 | *** join/#utah herlo (n=herlo@65.214.148.70) |
| 16:45.49 | nick125_lappy | try to break it |
| 16:46.19 | nick125_lappy | I think I might've figured out a way to break it.. |
| 17:16.17 | TimRiker | #utah - where everyone has a voice. heh. who's been voicing everyone? |
| 17:16.51 | TimRiker | ahh goozbach. is there a way to get registered nicks auto-voiced? that would be cool. |
| 17:17.02 | nick125_lappy | ah, we were having f-bombing problems |
| 17:17.16 | nick125_lappy | thats _why_ everyones voiced |
| 17:17.54 | macnewbold | helro and synyc aren't voiced, if anyone's counting |
| 17:21.44 | findlay | TimRiker: if anyone would know it is goozbach |
| 17:23.54 | TimRiker | +R looks interesting... http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 17:24.25 | tensai | maquis: http://www.howtocookcornonthecob.com/ |
| 17:24.26 | brac | [How To Cook Corn On The Cob] |
| 17:25.10 | tensai | macnewbold: the channel is -m ATM, so voice isn't needed |
| 17:25.30 | macnewbold | good |
| 17:25.33 | Tene | +m, actually |
| 17:25.46 | Tene | although I don't see it in the channel modes... |
| 17:25.49 | Tene | that's odd. |
| 17:25.54 | Tene | I see +cnz |
| 17:25.57 | tensai | Tene: yes, that's the point. it's no longer +m. |
| 17:26.01 | Tene | oh |
| 17:26.05 | Tene | I understand now. |
| 17:28.13 | tensai | personally I think +r might be the way to go |
| 17:31.57 | levi | What makes you think the f-bombers weren't using registered nicks? |
| 17:32.20 | goozbach | levi: the drive by users weren't |
| 17:32.29 | levi | Ahh. |
| 17:32.31 | goozbach | the people who came looking for a fight were |
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| 17:34.20 | tensai | I must have missed that. I only saw the drive by users |
| 17:36.47 | maquis | tensai: cool |
| 17:37.00 | maquis | sweet storm! |
| 17:38.29 | \me | heh |
| 17:38.38 | \me | didn't see the f word in there though |
| 17:38.45 | \me | lots of others :-) |
| 17:38.55 | \me | btw, all my nick-hops are registered |
| 17:39.27 | \me | so you wouldn't alienate me |
| 17:40.20 | maquis | why is the power blinking? it's not *that* windy |
| 17:40.43 | amcnabb | It's a good thing we have a UPS now. |
| 17:41.01 | amcnabb | Our lab server would have died three or four times by now. |
| 17:41.24 | maquis | amcnabb: any idea why it blinks so easily around here? |
| 17:41.47 | amcnabb | I'm sure it's somebody's fault. :) |
| 17:41.50 | maquis | :) |
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| 18:01.01 | tuple | -lart emcnabb |
| 18:01.39 | tuple | what precision |
| 18:01.54 | maquis | lol |
| 18:02.00 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
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| 18:15.14 | maquis | ~onjoin TimRiker what is thy bidding, master? |
| 18:15.14 | ibot | ok, maquis |
| 18:18.21 | maquis | can i turn everybody's voice off in one move? |
| 18:18.29 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 18:18.36 | fozzmoo | Take your clothes off. |
| 18:18.42 | fozzmoo | That'll leave everyone voiceless. |
| 18:18.48 | maquis | erm |
| 18:18.49 | mrpull | whoa |
| 18:18.49 | maquis | no |
| 18:18.56 | fozzmoo | Okay. Don't. |
| 18:19.00 | fozzmoo | But, I'm just sayin. :) |
| 18:20.07 | herlo | fozzmoo: some of us might actually have something to say after her clothes were removed! |
| 18:20.24 | herlo | fozzmoo: be careful what you wish for! |
| 18:27.28 | mheath_ | can someone /lastlog mheath for me? |
| 18:27.41 | mheath_ | Unless it contains obscenities, like it probably does -.- |
| 18:28.11 | nick125_lappy | 09:28 <neybar> did the discussion with mheath and his script kiddies get out of hand? |
| 18:28.46 | nick125_lappy | 09:28 <neybar> did the discussion with mheath and his script kiddies get out of hand? |
| 18:28.49 | nick125_lappy | err |
| 18:28.52 | nick125_lappy | 09:04 <goozbach> connection problems mheath_ ? |
| 18:31.14 | maquis | meh |
| 18:34.28 | mheath_ | I just find it a bit silly that they can't exhibit a level of maturity beyond coming and swearing at in here. |
| 18:35.25 | maquis | yeah... oh well |
| 18:36.26 | fozzmoo | mheath_: They're on IRC, mheath_. I mean, come on! |
| 18:36.55 | fozzmoo | Means they're automagically inclined to be immature and socially retarded. |
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| 18:40.17 | maquis | fozzmoo: you may be... but not all of us are |
| 18:41.36 | jsmith | maquis: Speak for yourself ;-) I've always had those inclinations... |
| 18:41.59 | fozzmoo | :) |
| 18:43.58 | ^Migs^ | What's UTAUG? |
| 18:44.18 | maquis | ^Migs^: asterisk users group, iirc |
| 18:44.47 | ^Migs^ | I thought it was the Armadillo Users Group |
| 18:46.14 | [phoenyx] | how do the members pronounce "UTAUG"? |
| 18:46.46 | fozzmoo | You Tog. |
| 18:46.52 | fozzmoo | You Dog. |
| 18:47.15 | jsmith | [phoenyx]: However we want! |
| 18:48.10 | ^Migs^ | I pronounce it like a barfing sound |
| 18:48.34 | fozzmoo | ^Migs^: What DON'T you pronounce like that? |
| 18:48.40 | fozzmoo | ;-) |
| 18:49.15 | jsmith | [phoenyx]: Come to the meeting and find your own way to pronounce it. |
| 19:03.08 | tensai | jsmith: are you providing the llama? |
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| 19:07.39 | sjansen | llama llama llama llama llama llama llama llama llama llama llama llama llama llama llama llama llama llama |
| 19:12.38 | mrpull-m | alpaca? |
| 19:14.27 | sjansen | http://blog.josephhall.com/2006/08/sense-of-humor.html <- The world must be protected from redbeard1's spawn! |
| 19:15.16 | mheath_ | Indeed. |
| 19:15.39 | mheath_ | Again, sorry I inadvertently dragged them into here. |
| 19:22.02 | maquis | mheath_: no worries... you didn't intend to |
| 19:22.06 | sjansen | ~moo |
| 19:22.08 | ibot | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ |
| 19:22.48 | sjansen | fozzmoo: Your Cisco VPN stuff is interesting. Back in the day when I cared, Linux + Cisco VPN was a nightmare. |
| 19:25.06 | \me | there was a whole discussion? I only caught 1 person saying 2 lines and then quitting |
| 19:25.23 | beandog | For a second there I thought that said I eat twice as much grass as you. |
| 19:27.09 | maquis | GAH!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:27.34 | maquis | i can't seem to apply anything i've learned in CS to this project |
| 19:27.38 | maquis | i'm *so* lost |
| 19:27.56 | levi | maquis: What project? |
| 19:28.11 | \me | maquis: nothing you learn in CS is applicable in the real world - it's all out of date by then ;-) |
| 19:28.40 | maquis | levi: it's for my cs428 class... we're writing a GUI front-end to svn in c#.net with windows forms (and other teams are building a bug-tracker that is integrated with this) |
| 19:28.43 | beandog | or before its time |
| 19:29.12 | [phoenyx] | I learned that I do some of my best work around midnight hopped up on sugar |
| 19:29.16 | \me | or MVC |
| 19:29.19 | levi | maquis: Ahh. Well, that's because the project is not actually CS, but 'Software Engineering'. |
| 19:29.27 | \me | (which is now old) |
| 19:29.34 | maquis | levi: yeah... but i can't program in this environment worth anything? |
| 19:29.37 | emcnabb | \me: agile development... yeah, it was my PE clas |
| 19:29.38 | emcnabb | s |
| 19:29.47 | \me | ~lart emcnabb |
| 19:29.53 | emcnabb | ouch |
| 19:30.03 | maquis | ~whaleslap emcnabb |
| 19:30.04 | ibot | ACTION beats emcnabb upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 19:30.12 | levi | I took a design patterns class. |
| 19:30.14 | maquis | emcnabb: welcome |
| 19:30.26 | maquis | levi: design patterns, maybe i could handle... |
| 19:30.36 | \me | levi: did they go over agile? Or just RAD and waterfall? |
| 19:30.41 | maquis | interacting with VS.net... |
| 19:30.50 | maquis | \me: we talked about agile |
| 19:30.52 | levi | \me: Those don't really have anything to do with design patterns. |
| 19:30.53 | maquis | in my class |
| 19:31.00 | fozzmoo | sjansen: Thanks |
| 19:31.01 | maquis | ooh...that was a big boom |
| 19:31.09 | \me | wow - guess it's making a name for itself now |
| 19:32.04 | \me | levi: did they go over MVC? |
| 19:32.14 | levi | I didn't think 'agile' belonged to any specific methodology, but was a generic descriptor for things like XP and Scrum. |
| 19:32.23 | levi | \me: Yes. |
| 19:32.30 | \me | well, agile is more of a project management technique |
| 19:32.36 | \me | that can be applied to development |
| 19:32.44 | levi | Agile is an adjective. |
| 19:32.44 | \me | guess it's not really a design pattern |
| 19:33.21 | levi | XP and Scrum are project management techniques. |
| 19:33.21 | sjansen | Huh. Looks like Sprint has decided to start sending SMS spam. |
| 19:33.22 | \me | Agile is also a noun, the opposite of Waterfall |
| 19:33.35 | \me | XP and Scrum are forms of Agile development |
| 19:33.36 | levi | \me: You need to lay off the buzzwords, man. |
| 19:33.57 | fozzmoo | They do scrum at my wife's work. |
| 19:34.15 | fozzmoo | scrum, sprint, bleh. |
| 19:34.28 | \me | there are also forms of agile development that don't fit into XP and scrum, sprint, etc. - it's a technique in and of itself |
| 19:34.28 | beandog | Everything's already foobed, so it's all uphill from here |
| 19:34.33 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 19:34.33 | \me | "the agile manifesto" |
| 19:34.35 | maquis | i hear buzzwords all through class... |
| 19:34.39 | \me | not an adjective there |
| 19:34.57 | fozzmoo | What happened to the good ole days of waterfall? |
| 19:35.05 | levi | \me: You /really/ need to lay off the buzzwords. Or go into management or something. They like buzzwords there. |
| 19:35.24 | \me | levi: what's wrong with the term "agile"? |
| 19:35.42 | fozzmoo | There was nothing wrong with "agile"... until it became a software development buzzword. |
| 19:35.45 | fozzmoo | Same with "externe" |
| 19:35.49 | fozzmoo | and "OO" |
| 19:35.50 | levi | It was a fine adjective, even when used to describe software development. |
| 19:36.03 | \me | yes, but it describes what it is |
| 19:36.10 | levi | It certainly didn't need a manifesto. |
| 19:36.36 | \me | the manifesto keeps it agile |
| 19:36.42 | \me | anything outside the manifesto isn't agile |
| 19:36.58 | fozzmoo | \me: you're scaring me. |
| 19:37.39 | \me | waterfall scares me |
| 19:37.53 | levi | I like waterfalls. They're pretty. |
| 19:38.03 | \me | and people that turn agile into waterfall processes |
| 19:38.19 | levi | I took a bunch of pictures of upper and lower falls at Yellowstone over the weekend. |
| 19:38.32 | \me | we have "agile consultants" here right now that are turning several of the projects into waterfall projects |
| 19:38.45 | \me | sucks - projects don't get done now |
| 19:38.51 | [phoenyx] | I dislike waterfall. My prof made us use it because it was easy to grade. |
| 19:38.57 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 19:39.04 | fozzmoo | brb |
| 19:39.13 | \me | heh - way to teach the students |
| 19:39.19 | levi | People who turn wonderful, useful, flexible words into buzzwords make me mad. |
| 19:39.28 | sjansen | http://files.blog-city.com/files/F05/96843/p/f/projectlifecycle.jpg |
| 19:39.41 | \me | it's not a buzzword unless you're using it for something it's not |
| 19:39.49 | \me | my company is using it as a buzzword |
| 19:39.52 | levi | ... |
| 19:40.29 | \me | agile is still a good word to describe a method of development |
| 19:40.48 | levi | To describe methods of development. It's an adjective. |
| 19:41.08 | levi | When you use it as a noun, it's a buzzword. |
| 19:41.09 | sjansen | I hear buzzwords. They're everywhere. They don't know they're buzzwords. |
| 19:41.55 | \me | levi: not if you're talking about the method of development |
| 19:42.04 | \me | the method of development itself is a noun |
| 19:42.15 | \me | the use of it is an adjective |
| 19:42.58 | mheath_ | why does NO ONE carry s-video to composite video adapters? |
| 19:43.03 | mheath_ | They're readily available and cheap online |
| 19:43.14 | mheath_ | but no stores I can find carry them in their inventory |
| 19:43.28 | mheath_ | I can't think why not...virtually all computer stuff has S-VIDEO exclusively now, whereas a lot of TVs just have RCA |
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| 19:43.49 | levi | \me: The fact that your 'agile' consultants are full of crap, yet still able to pass themselves off as 'agile' confirms that 'agile' is indeed a buzzword. |
| 19:44.00 | fozzmoo | heh |
| 19:44.13 | sjansen | \me One could argue that agile is merely a shorthand for agile development, hence an adjective with a hidden noun. |
| 19:44.19 | \me | levi: it *can* be a buzzword, doesn't mean that it is always |
| 19:44.21 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 19:44.29 | levi | \me: The fact that someone wrote a manifesto describing what /they/ think it means does not make it any less of a buzzword. |
| 19:44.36 | \me | *open source* is a buzzword by your definition |
| 19:44.41 | levi | And so it is. |
| 19:44.59 | emcnabb | so, here's some scary news: I'm going to be a parent |
| 19:45.05 | levi | emcnabb: Congrats! |
| 19:45.08 | maquis | emcnabb: cool! congrats!!!! |
| 19:45.12 | emcnabb | thanks |
| 19:45.15 | \me | levi: the manifesto is what's accepted as "agile" in the industry |
| 19:45.19 | emcnabb | I'm nervous as heck |
| 19:45.19 | sjansen | Once a word has been hijacked and turned into a buzzword, it's a buzzword. The hand shake to verify meaning of terminology introduces too much overhead to use it as anything other than a buzzword. |
| 19:45.21 | maquis | emcnabb: when's the due date? |
| 19:45.26 | maquis | emcnabb: you'll be a good dad |
| 19:45.26 | emcnabb | Feb 8th |
| 19:45.27 | \me | emcnabb: awesome! good job! |
| 19:45.27 | levi | \me: Except for your consultants, apparently. |
| 19:45.38 | maquis | emcnabb: way cool |
| 19:45.46 | \me | levi: our consultants are full of buzzwords that don't understand the manifesto |
| 19:46.03 | maquis | emcnabb: how long til you find out if it's a boy or a girl? |
| 19:46.07 | redbeard1 | ~lart sjansen |
| 19:46.28 | levi | \me: You're full of buzzwords, too. So? |
| 19:46.38 | fozzmoo | emcnabb: So it's apparent? |
| 19:46.45 | emcnabb | well, they're going to do a special ultrasound that will tell us in a couple of weeks; we're only 12 - 13 weeks along |
| 19:47.07 | \me | fozzmoo: no, he's a parent |
| 19:47.08 | [phoenyx] | I think that the buzzwordiness depends on whether it is being used correctly to convey meaning or used incorrectly to impress people |
| 19:47.11 | fozzmoo | OH! |
| 19:47.26 | fozzmoo | emcnabb: Being a parent is (usually) lots of fun. |
| 19:47.28 | emcnabb | fozzmoo: haha |
| 19:47.34 | \me | [phoenyx]: exactly |
| 19:47.38 | \me | IMO |
| 19:47.44 | emcnabb | yeah, I guess if billions of people have done it, I can too |
| 19:47.55 | fozzmoo | While we were expecting our first, my wife became obsessed with reading birth stories online. |
| 19:48.10 | \me | my wife keeps wanting to have a 4th - not so sure about it |
| 19:48.11 | fozzmoo | Lots of people have published their stories of the birth process. |
| 19:48.21 | redbeard1 | emcnabb: wait, you're 12 - 13 weeks too? |
| 19:48.39 | fozzmoo | \me: It's the opposite for me. I keep hinting at a 4th and my wife says no way. |
| 19:48.42 | emcnabb | ~lart redbeard1 |
| 19:48.50 | redbeard1 | hey! |
| 19:48.50 | [phoenyx] | redbeard1: due date for yours? |
| 19:48.57 | emcnabb | as of right now we're planning on 3 |
| 19:49.09 | redbeard1 | the last due date i heard was feb 10 |
| 19:49.12 | tensai | maquis: generally speaking they do an ultrasound at 20 weeks |
| 19:49.17 | emcnabb | redbeard1: oh, sorry.... congrats! |
| 19:49.21 | fozzmoo | heh. |
| 19:49.24 | maquis | tensai: ah... |
| 19:49.28 | tensai | maquis: I would have thought you'd know all this stuff, considering your dad |
| 19:49.30 | fozzmoo | redbeard1: emcnabb thought you were insulting him. |
| 19:49.36 | emcnabb | haha |
| 19:49.46 | maquis | i really ought to know that... given my dad, and the number of friends who've had babies in the past year |
| 19:49.49 | redbeard1 | emcnabb: don't worry, i wasn't insulting you. sjansen maybe, but not you |
| 19:49.50 | emcnabb | conference call is starting.... bbl |
| 19:50.34 | tensai | another member of the mcnabb army. the fugals better get cracking. |
| 19:51.25 | levi | \me: So, I just read 'about the manifesto' on the Agile Manifesto page, and it no way implies that 'Agile' is a methodology of its own. The whole point is to declare common principles that a group of well-defined methodologies share, and to promote those principles. |
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| 19:51.45 | \me | levi: yes |
| 19:51.59 | \me | making 'agile' a noun in that case |
| 19:52.42 | levi | No, it's never actually used in a noun context that I can tell. |
| 19:52.57 | tensai | redbeard1: oh, my creme brulee last night was too much. I couldn't eat a whole one. quite yummy. |
| 19:53.03 | levi | Always as 'agile processes' |
| 19:53.06 | beandog | gah |
| 19:53.07 | goozbach | let's redbeard1 that food product over there |
| 19:53.19 | goozbach | I redbeard1'ed some peach ice cream last night |
| 19:53.20 | beandog | I can never remember ... how do you dump *everything* to /dev/null (stdout & stderr) |
| 19:53.27 | fozzmoo | Let's process that food product the redbeard1 way. |
| 19:53.50 | fozzmoo | beandog: depends on the shell. bash? |
| 19:53.56 | beandog | yah |
| 19:54.04 | tensai | beandog: foo &>/dev/null |
| 19:54.17 | goozbach | lets leverage the redbeard1 of this new recipie |
| 19:54.18 | beandog | that's it? gosh, I was close. |
| 19:54.37 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Trying to set an example for the rest of us? |
| 19:55.20 | goozbach | FYI a badblocks scan (read-write) on a 300G drive takes a LONG time |
| 19:55.28 | harleypig | You are all sick people. |
| 19:55.29 | beandog | thanks |
| 19:55.38 | levi | \me: This is what you said that I objected to: \me well, agile is more of a project management technique |
| 19:55.39 | fozzmoo | 'T be slower in Winbloze. |
| 19:55.40 | redbeard1 | ~lart harleypig |
| 19:55.41 | harleypig | And that's coming from a truly sick person. |
| 19:55.58 | harleypig | :D |
| 19:56.10 | harleypig | Hey! What'd I miss? How come I have a + by my name? |
| 19:56.11 | levi | \me 'Agile' is not a technique. It is an adjective that describes a set of principles that are common to a certain group of methodologies. |
| 19:56.23 | harleypig | I think + is voice ... |
| 19:56.28 | redbeard1 | tensai: anyway, what i was going to say before i got buzzworded... i have a creme brulee experiment planned |
| 19:56.41 | levi | Mmm, creme brulee. |
| 19:56.54 | levi | I need to make it again now that I have some turbinado sugar to try carmelizing. |
| 19:57.25 | redbeard1 | i'm going to bake two side by side, one in a water bath, one without |
| 19:57.39 | fozzmoo | You guys make a diabetic sick. |
| 19:57.52 | tensai | redbeard1: sounds interesting. can't wait to hear. |
| 19:58.20 | redbeard1 | i will post photos of the results, if they end up being worth posting |
| 19:58.23 | tensai | fozzmoo: there's hardly any sugar, fat or calories in a creme brulee |
| 19:59.21 | levi | \me: For the record, I mostly agree with agile development principles. |
| 20:00.30 | sjansen | ~fuzz redbeard1 |
| 20:01.06 | emcnabb | ~rlart |
| 20:01.17 | emcnabb | ~rlart |
| 20:01.30 | goozbach | oh cool |
| 20:01.32 | emcnabb | ~rlart |
| 20:01.38 | goozbach | doh |
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| 20:02.30 | redbeard1 | ~redbeard1 sjansen |
| 20:02.58 | redbeard1 | what the... they let all sorts in here, don't they? |
| 20:03.30 | fozzmoo | as long as they're willing to chew out mheath, yeah. |
| 20:03.50 | redbeard1 | uh oh. do i need to chew out mheath? |
| 20:03.56 | tensai | I estimate my creme brulee had 935 calories, 49 grams of fat and 688 mg of cholesterol |
| 20:03.58 | redbeard1 | i haven't done that today. |
| 20:04.31 | levi | tensai: How big was it? |
| 20:04.40 | redbeard1 | it was so big... |
| 20:04.44 | tensai | 'bout this big |
| 20:05.04 | redbeard1 | ~lart \me |
| 20:05.08 | \me | weird - my screen session froze |
| 20:05.15 | sjansen | ~lart \me harder one more time |
| 20:05.17 | tensai | the whole recipe was 1/4 cup sugar, 1 cup cream, 5 medium egg yolks. made two custards. |
| 20:05.47 | tensai | /heavy/ cream, that is |
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| 20:07.41 | sjansen | ~silence tensai |
| 20:07.43 | ibot | ACTION shoves an apple in tensai's mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting |
| 20:07.54 | tensai | redbeard1: I used a water bath and it turned out quite smooth. the bottom had a bit of a thick skin which was still tasty. |
| 20:08.06 | sjansen | tensai: You're making me hungry, and that's quite a feat considering I just had a delicious and filling curry lunch. |
| 20:08.35 | tensai | redbeard1: I forgot to pass it through a sieve |
| 20:09.44 | harleypig | A mind like a steel sieve |
| 20:09.50 | redbeard1 | sjansen: curried creme brulee |
| 20:09.54 | redbeard1 | how's that? |
| 20:10.25 | tensai | I thought I had burned the sugar but it was just perfect. weird because it sure smelled like burned sugar. |
| 20:10.27 | redbeard1 | i wouldn't worry about the sieve. it's just for the chalazee (sp?) |
| 20:10.49 | tensai | what's a chalazee? |
| 20:10.56 | redbeard1 | well, the sugar is supposed to be burned. that's why it's called creme brulee and not creme brun or something |
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| 20:11.37 | redbeard1 | what the... i just saw neybar walk by, right as it said he entered the room. he's got skillz |
| 20:11.57 | redbeard1 | tensai: it's the white ropey thing attached to the yolk |
| 20:12.22 | tensai | redbeard1: that's what I was guessing, and what I was planning to filter out. oh, well. didn't notice. |
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| 20:12.50 | tensai | -lart elg |
| 20:12.57 | redbeard1 | gratin. that's the word i was looking for. it's creme brulee, not creme gratin |
| 20:13.17 | redbeard1 | brulee meaning burned. |
| 20:13.27 | tensai | redbeard1: now there's a difference between burned & edible and burned beyond consumption. I thought I had the latter, but it turned out just fine. |
| 20:14.02 | sjansen | Last night I walked into a Whole Foods Market for the first time. They had a really great selection of chocolate. The strangest was several brands of chocolate curry candy bars. |
| 20:14.07 | redbeard1 | i like to burn the sugar so that there's a decent amount of black, maybe 1/4 to 1/3 or so |
| 20:14.36 | redbeard1 | uh oh. i taught elg some culinary french. what have i done? |
| 20:15.18 | elg | hmm, byu in /. |
| 20:15.24 | elg | http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/8151882/article.pl |
| 20:16.46 | redbeard1 | virtual surgery |
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| 20:16.59 | redbeard1 | that sounds like fun! |
| 20:17.27 | sjansen | http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/08/01.html |
| 20:17.28 | brac | [Joel on Software] |
| 20:17.29 | redbeard1 | ~cheesecake |
| 20:17.34 | ibot | methinks cheesecake is statistically the most popular dessert ordered in restaurants, or goozbach fuel |
| 20:18.34 | \me | joel on software is a buzzword site |
| 20:18.53 | \me | all he talks about are buzzwords |
| 20:19.35 | sjansen | Yes, buzzwords like first class functions. That link is one of the best explanations I've ever seen. |
| 20:19.58 | \me | :-) |
| 20:20.03 | sjansen | He then goes on the explain the advantage of a language without side effects, but rushes it so it isn't as good. |
| 20:20.41 | sjansen | None the less, gotta love any article that tells it like it is Java may be popular, but it's really ugly. |
| 20:21.01 | sjansen | The more I learn about programming, the uglier Java feels. |
| 20:21.10 | elg | sjansen: good read |
| 20:21.24 | elg | odd that his poster child is javascript, but hey |
| 20:21.40 | elg | I like "Can your language do this?" |
| 20:21.43 | levi | "first class function" is a technical term, not a buzzword. |
| 20:21.45 | Jayce^ | elg, agreed |
| 20:21.48 | redbeard1 | that is a good article |
| 20:22.03 | sjansen | levi: Yes, but it's going to be a buzzword. |
| 20:22.18 | elg | sjansen: you are more optimistic than I |
| 20:22.42 | sjansen | People are finally figuring it out. In particular thanks to Javascript, Python & Ruby. |
| 20:22.54 | levi | sjansen: There's not a lot of room (at least that I can see) for vagueness in the term 'first class function'. |
| 20:23.13 | sjansen | There didn't used to be in other words before they were hijacked either. |
| 20:23.47 | levi | Well, I'm not so sure about that, but I'll concede the possibility. |
| 20:23.59 | \me | sjansen: don't forget Perl :-) |
| 20:24.16 | sjansen | Nah, Perl is a dead language. |
| 20:24.35 | sjansen | Noboby serious uses Perl anymore. |
| 20:24.38 | \me | that you program in :-P |
| 20:24.40 | levi | BTW, The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs is full of all sorts of coolness like that Joel article. |
| 20:24.57 | \me | now Python - there's a dead language |
| 20:25.32 | elg | i think you're sitting backwards |
| 20:25.35 | \me | so is "Higher Order of Perl" |
| 20:25.46 | sjansen | Yes, so dead that both RH and Ubuntu are writing core utilities in Python. |
| 20:26.00 | sjansen | s/Ubunut/Canonical/ |
| 20:26.01 | levi | \me: There's no 'of' in that book's title. |
| 20:26.13 | levi | sjansen: Not to mention its prominent use at Google. |
| 20:26.38 | \me | levi: sorry for offending you |
| 20:26.48 | \me | the "of" is silent |
| 20:27.01 | neybar | what? |
| 20:27.20 | \me | funny - I always read it as that way. Just now realized there's no of |
| 20:27.24 | Jayce^ | neybar, he's lost, dont' bother.... |
| 20:27.33 | levi | Well, I only object because "Higher Order of Perl" sounds like a description of some cult-like organization. ;) |
| 20:27.53 | Jayce^ | levi, well, we have perlmonks :) |
| 20:28.02 | \me | Jayce^: I was about to say the same thing :-) |
| 20:28.14 | levi | Jayce^: Well, maybe it's not so far off, but that's not at all what the book is about! :) |
| 20:28.29 | levi | Though, grokking it would certainly lead one to a higher order of understanding. |
| 20:30.45 | amcnabb | sjansen, that really is a good description of functions being first class. |
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| 20:32.47 | amcnabb | My only gripe is that he calls MapReduce an algorithm. |
| 20:33.09 | emcnabb | woohoo, my coworker is giving me a new system tomorrow: 8 x P3 900 MHz w/ 8 Gb RAM |
| 20:33.17 | amcnabb | Wow |
| 20:33.28 | emcnabb | he says it's loud and hot, but still |
| 20:33.38 | amcnabb | Have you told Lisa yet? |
| 20:33.40 | emcnabb | 6U |
| 20:33.41 | emcnabb | nope |
| 20:33.47 | amcnabb | I'll keep quiet. :) |
| 20:33.54 | emcnabb | nor will I until it's up in my den :-) |
| 20:34.03 | tensai | ~rlart |
| 20:34.10 | amcnabb | "Oh, that thing. I think it came with the house." |
| 20:34.21 | emcnabb | it's a space heater for this fall |
| 20:34.25 | jsmith | Sounds like a jet engine... |
| 20:35.22 | emcnabb | "but honey, the light wisper of the 17 fans and 8 power supplies will put the baby to sleep!" |
| 20:35.48 | beandog | // Stupid, asinine, custom, I-really-hate-this-crap tweaks |
| 20:35.51 | levi | That'll be /way/ loud. |
| 20:36.09 | emcnabb | yeah, I'll probably only turn it on occationally |
| 20:36.22 | levi | Not to mention drawing a lot of power. :) |
| 20:37.14 | levi | What are you going to do with it? |
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| 20:39.59 | herlo | UTOS Meeting tomorrow 7-8pm MDT |
| 20:40.30 | herlo | http://www.utos.org |
| 20:42.00 | jsmith | levi: He's going to use it to compile Gentoo... |
| 20:42.15 | levi | Aww, what a shame. :) |
| 20:43.32 | jsmith | I don't know... I just made it up. |
| 20:44.00 | Sargun | Why did #utah go +m? |
| 20:47.59 | emcnabb | levi: just a test / play box |
| 20:48.18 | emcnabb | Sargun: I like the new nick; much better than the previous! |
| 20:48.38 | [phoenyx] | Sargun: keep the script kiddies away |
| 20:49.09 | maquis | herlo: is the meeting online? |
| 20:49.11 | Sargun | ah |
| 20:49.20 | maquis | Sargun: because of an issue yesterday |
| 20:49.25 | Sargun | emcnabb, yeah, just gotta make X-Chat auto-magically use it now. |
| 20:49.38 | Sargun | #utah doesn't seem like it would get attacked.. |
| 20:50.08 | maquis | Sargun: it's a long story |
| 20:50.23 | Sargun | I'll look in the logs |
| 20:50.47 | herlo | maquis: http://www.utos.org just posted details |
| 20:51.04 | maquis | herlo: ok |
| 20:51.43 | maquis | herlo: you're announcing a meeting a year in advance? |
| 20:51.53 | Sargun | lol |
| 20:51.54 | maquis | an online meeting for that matter :) |
| 20:52.24 | herlo | uh, okay |
| 20:52.34 | maquis | August 1, 2006 |
| 20:52.35 | maquis | Meeting August 2, 2007 - 7-8pm MDT |
| 20:53.08 | herlo | maquis: fixed |
| 20:53.15 | maquis | :) |
| 20:56.45 | herlo | maquis: was thinking about the new conference dates for next year |
| 20:57.19 | \me | Sargun: identify yourself :-) |
| 20:58.00 | Sargun | \me, previously xbmodder |
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| 20:58.15 | maquis | :) |
| 20:58.16 | Sargun | wait -- xbmodder is still here |
| 20:58.21 | Sargun | :-/ |
| 20:58.48 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 20:58.54 | maquis | why is everybody changing nicks? |
| 20:59.17 | nick125_lappy | because its fun |
| 20:59.48 | [phoenyx] | I've used this nick since my BBS days |
| 21:00.51 | redbeard1 | oh man. the bbs days. i remember those days. |
| 21:01.08 | beandog | er wait. |
| 21:01.24 | beandog | TSN |
| 21:01.25 | beandog | :) |
| 21:01.46 | Sargun | I am too young for the BBS days |
| 21:01.59 | Jayce^ | beandog, I don't want to ever hear *you* talking about a BBS again :) |
| 21:02.21 | Sargun | that was WAY before my time |
| 21:02.40 | Sargun | I was born in the generation of v.90 modems |
| 21:03.54 | [phoenyx] | I used a 300 baud modem borrowed from my high school CS teacher. I could read faster than the text appeared on the screen. |
| 21:05.04 | \me | maquis: I was forced out of my old nick |
| 21:05.12 | Sargun | lol |
| 21:05.35 | \me | everyone thought Uncle_Jesse was too creepy |
| 21:05.50 | \me | threatened to kickban me if I don't switch :-( |
| 21:05.59 | harleypig | maquis: I'm not changing nicks unless it's for a very good reason. |
| 21:06.08 | maquis | harleypig: which is? |
| 21:06.22 | beandog | Jayce^: heh, oh yah .... man, what was I thinking. |
| 21:06.31 | beandog | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sierra_Network |
| 21:06.41 | beandog | stupid AOL crushed it... |
| 21:06.50 | beandog | I used to have a Red Baron guild |
| 21:06.57 | beandog | "Whirlpool of Cows" |
| 21:10.17 | \me | beandog: you have a good memory |
| 21:10.27 | \me | I barely remember my bbs days |
| 21:11.15 | redbeard1 | i remember playing tw2k |
| 21:11.18 | redbeard1 | that was a blast |
| 21:11.19 | beandog | oy .. memories. |
| 21:11.24 | \me | Jayce^: you were roommates with beandog? |
| 21:11.36 | Jayce^ | beandog, do you remember the name of the game we played most on that thing? the one steve loved? |
| 21:11.43 | beandog | Yah, he hates me draggin up the fact we used to sleep together. |
| 21:11.47 | Jayce^ | you created planetary economies.. |
| 21:11.49 | \me | lol |
| 21:11.53 | Jayce^ | beandog, you said it.. |
| 21:12.22 | \me | I spent the night with Jayce^ a couple times |
| 21:12.26 | \me | forcefully |
| 21:12.33 | \me | ;-) |
| 21:12.38 | Jayce^ | uhhh, what? |
| 21:12.53 | \me | OGDF |
| 21:13.16 | \me | remember being forced to stay overnight and program that one night? |
| 21:14.53 | \me | stupid Alan |
| 21:15.03 | \me | (Eaton, not Young) |
| 21:16.08 | \me | we need like the 6 degrees of Jayce^ |
| 21:17.57 | beandog | my cartoons are almost done |
| 21:18.03 | beandog | 3. Super Friends (Season 2): Terror From the Phantom Zone (22.46) |
| 21:18.21 | beandog | that's a good episode, too. |
| 21:19.28 | redbeard1 | beandog: i know you probably posted this, but i can't find it. what source are you going from? |
| 21:20.32 | elg | welcome to the plug flood |
| 21:20.54 | redbeard1 | ~plug elg |
| 21:21.22 | redbeard1 | wow. been a while since that was updated? |
| 21:22.00 | \me | Damian Conway's coming back? |
| 21:22.26 | beandog | redbeard1: what source? |
| 21:22.32 | Jayce^ | maybe next year :) |
| 21:22.32 | \me | He mentioned to me he had desires to |
| 21:22.55 | \me | cool |
| 21:22.56 | beandog | redbeard1: oh, the video? just straight from the DVD. I rip the tracks to the harddrive, so mpeg2, ac3 multiple audio tracks |
| 21:23.12 | beandog | then I encode to mpeg4 (xvid) and ac3 (english) |
| 21:23.16 | redbeard1 | beandog: ah, dvd. i'm with ya |
| 21:24.25 | redbeard1 | it's always interesting to see blog comments from new people. i wonder who del_rex is? |
| 21:43.30 | goozbach | ooh time for a bbq |
| 21:44.39 | maquis | goozbach: can i have some? |
| 21:46.48 | tensai | wow. major qwest outage in wyoming. |
| 21:49.31 | jsmith | tensai: Woo hoo! I mean, that's bad... |
| 21:50.29 | tensai | jsmith: bad for me because I (grudgingly) use qwest circuits |
| 21:51.14 | jsmith | tensai: Not good, then... which part of Wyoming? |
| 21:51.20 | tensai | jsmith: yes |
| 21:52.03 | tensai | jsmith: all of it apparently. the qwest tech said the whole state fell off the map |
| 21:52.25 | tensai | I can get in to the qwest co in cheyenne, but not any further |
| 21:53.52 | jsmith | tensai: That's bad. |
| 21:54.34 | tensai | actually I can get in over our ds3 to rock springs too, but the one to casper is down. beyond that I can't see anything in state. |
| 22:01.49 | jsmith | Well, it's not like there's a lot of redundant connections in the state... |
| 22:01.54 | jsmith | There are only so many fiber paths... |
| 22:02.39 | tensai | fiber cut apparently. multiple OC48s |
| 22:02.44 | tensai | no ETR of course |
| 22:02.57 | tensai | jsmith: I know of 3. yeah, that's not very many. |
| 22:03.05 | Jayce^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.39 | jsmith | Somebody's having a bad day... |
| 22:03.48 | jsmith | ... and some poor backhoe operator just got fired |
| 22:04.51 | Jayce^ | nah, they're union |
| 22:04.58 | tensai | this is no party for me, but I'm sure a bunch of qwest techs aren't having fun |
| 22:05.15 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.12 | rsimpkins | This happend to St. George once. Even knocked out 911 service for several hours (don't ask me how, just did). Qwest came in and said they would put in a redundant connection - years later - still nothing. |
| 22:07.52 | jsmith | rsimpkins: "We don't care. We don't have to. We're the phone company." |
| 22:08.02 | rsimpkins | jsmith: That's about it. |
| 22:09.42 | tensai | while that's true certainly, and I love poking fun of the telcos as much as anybody, I do know good people who work at qwest |
| 22:10.23 | jsmith | So do I. |
| 22:10.44 | jsmith | Some people there go above and beyond the call of duty -- you might say they have the "spirit of service" |
| 22:10.57 | jsmith | Others are there just to keep the customer from getting anything done. |
| 22:11.18 | levi | I've actually had pretty good luck getting Qwest techs out quickly to work on my DSL line. |
| 22:12.45 | tensai | the problem is the corporate culture provides a lot of incentives to not care |
| 22:16.42 | tensai | OC == optical carrier |
| 22:17.17 | mrpull | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OC48 |
| 22:17.32 | tensai | it's mega bandwidth |
| 22:28.28 | sjansen | maquis: An OC48, a refrigerator, a microwave and a toilet. That's all an apartment needs to be "fully furnished" so that I'll never leave again. |
| 22:29.11 | RyanE | and maybe a trashcan / garbage disposal might be nice. |
| 22:29.42 | RyanE | or actually, a dumpster might be more handy... |
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| 22:32.10 | sjansen | Nah, I'm just assuming a window or door I can open at night and throw stuff out. |
| 22:33.23 | [phoenyx] | if that's the case, why a toilet? why not just a drain in the floor? |
| 22:33.35 | maquis | sjansen: ah |
| 22:33.38 | maquis | ok |
| 22:34.54 | sjansen | [phoenyx]: Comfort. I'm American/European. I'm used to have a seat, not squatting. |
| 22:35.09 | maquis | lol |
| 22:35.26 | maquis | i've heard too many stories about squatters from my friends who did study abroad in china |
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| 22:42.19 | mrpull | maquis: who are you using for your VPS? goozbach's skunkworks? |
| 22:42.29 | maquis | mrpull: yup |
| 22:42.35 | mrpull | what is it called? |
| 22:42.41 | maquis | neverblock.com |
| 22:42.47 | mrpull | ahah... thank you. |
| 22:42.52 | maquis | np |
| 22:42.55 | maquis | you going with them too? |
| 22:43.10 | maquis | mrpull: if you go to tuxgirl.com i think it's still the first post :) |
| 22:44.03 | graphyx | so I can't talk, can I? |
| 22:44.08 | graphyx | Oh.. guess I can now.. |
| 22:44.12 | maquis | graphyx: nope |
| 22:45.03 | [phoenyx] | that site looks very familiar |
| 22:45.04 | tensai | maquis: second time I used a squatter I ended up standing in a pool. I got overconfident after my first success. |
| 22:45.19 | maquis | tensai: my friend used a squatter on a train |
| 22:45.33 | maquis | and they... hit some turbulence... |
| 22:46.11 | maquis | i would imagine squatters are a bit easier for guys... |
| 22:46.17 | graphyx | I am sure that people in third world countries find it rather amuzing that we aren't able to "squat" worth a squat.. |
| 22:48.47 | tensai | just takes a few times and you get the hang of it |
| 22:49.11 | nick125_lappy | maquis: what does neverblock use (I'm just wondering..) |
| 22:49.15 | nick125_lappy | ? |
| 22:49.22 | maquis | nick125_lappy: i believe they're using xen |
| 22:49.43 | nick125_lappy | cool |
| 22:49.50 | nick125_lappy | xen rocks :) |
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| 22:52.48 | graphyx | http://kutv.com/video/?id=17969@kutv.dayport.com |
| 22:52.49 | brac | [kutv.com - Video Library] |
| 22:52.53 | graphyx | in case you guys don't know it already. |
| 23:00.12 | sjansen | graphyx: kills my browser, what's the summary? |
| 23:01.45 | [phoenyx] | didn't realize the storm had been that bad |
| 23:02.51 | mrpull | maquis: do you buy anything beyond the base system |
| 23:03.42 | graphyx | a long swath of distruction of phone polls laying on their side. |
| 23:03.47 | graphyx | and damaged houses and cars. |
| 23:03.50 | graphyx | in south provo |
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| 23:05.36 | sjansen | ah, bummer |
| 23:05.55 | maquis | mrpull: i just got the base system |
| 23:06.22 | maquis | graphyx: really? |
| 23:06.45 | graphyx | yes |
| 23:06.47 | mrpull | despite knowing I don't need anything more powerful, the macho man in me wants more |
| 23:07.27 | maquis | mrpull: seeing as i'm a student... |
| 23:07.34 | sjansen | nacho, nacho man, I want to be a nacho man! |
| 23:07.49 | maquis | honestly, i wouldn't use it if i wasn't going to have weird connection and such for the next 8 months |
| 23:08.20 | nick125_lappy | mrpull: lol, looking at their system specs (I don't have service though them, but, I'm familar in the field), you should be more then fine with the base config (unless you are gonna be doing something that consumes alot of RAM, as thats the big problem with VPSes)..you might want a second IP though for DNS if you choose to do that |
| 23:09.00 | maquis | the only thing i was worried about having issues with was disk space |
| 23:09.08 | nick125_lappy | yeah |
| 23:09.09 | mrpull | i've got a little one RU box at home... but it is noisy and I'm tempted to let somebody else pay the electric bill |
| 23:09.10 | maquis | but it doesn't look like it'll bea problem |
| 23:09.26 | graphyx | maquis: When do you get to Seattle? |
| 23:09.29 | nick125_lappy | a base install (least with my images) is around 500MB-800MB |
| 23:09.36 | maquis | graphyx: leaving here august 21 |
| 23:09.41 | graphyx | cool |
| 23:09.43 | maquis | not going straight home, though |
| 23:09.43 | mrpull | nick125_lappy: you are using Xen? |
| 23:09.56 | nick125_lappy | mrpull: yup |
| 23:09.56 | graphyx | any idea what specific stuff you are going to do for amazon security yet? |
| 23:09.57 | maquis | probably will be gone for a little over a week (with *no* internet access during that time) :( |
| 23:10.00 | mrpull | i've played a bit with OpenVZ and like it too |
| 23:10.04 | maquis | graphyx: not with security |
| 23:10.09 | maquis | and still no idea what i'm doing specifically |
| 23:10.15 | graphyx | maquis: I thoguth that was the group you got into. |
| 23:10.18 | graphyx | Oh well. |
| 23:10.31 | nick125_lappy | The thing I don't like about OpenVZ/VZ in VPSes is the fact that the provider can oversell ram |
| 23:10.33 | maquis | graphyx: nah... i would've liked to... but there were some weird issues... |
| 23:11.13 | graphyx | really? |
| 23:11.20 | nick125_lappy | that's one reason you find a xen VPS with 64MB of ram for $10, but, you can find a VZ VPS from the same provider with 128MB for $10 |
| 23:11.27 | graphyx | To be honest I am really glad I got to go where I am now. |
| 23:11.42 | graphyx | cause I am part of a young team with the ability to be of influence and grow a lot in the process. |
| 23:11.51 | graphyx | I'll be quite a bit more marketable to the next company. |
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| 23:14.42 | sjansen | maquis: being a student is no excuse |
| 23:15.04 | sjansen | students can sell blood, selling one's blood to pay one's hosting bill is perfectly reasonable |
| 23:15.13 | maquis | sjansen: lol |
| 23:15.14 | sjansen | hosting or food? hosting! |
| 23:15.16 | nick125_lappy | haha |
| 23:15.21 | sjansen | hosting or laundry? hosting! |
| 23:15.21 | graphyx | just not if you need your blood while getting fixed up. |
| 23:15.46 | sjansen | hosting or text books? hosting and "study groups" |
| 23:16.09 | maquis | and now we see why sjansen is still single... :P |
| 23:18.42 | nick125_lappy | sjansen: can you even sell blood in the US... :P |
| 23:19.09 | tensai | nick125_lappy: you can sell plasma, which is like blood |
| 23:19.17 | nick125_lappy | aah |
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| 23:19.44 | nick125_lappy | well, nothing is illegal if they never catch you.. |
| 23:20.18 | tensai | it's still illegal even if you don't feel the consequences |
| 23:20.38 | maquis | ah.. back to this conversation |
| 23:21.17 | nick125_lappy | hmm....they say that plasma donations can go for $30-$50 each |
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| 23:22.52 | nick125_lappy | sjansen: oo..how many months of hosting is that worth? |
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| 23:29.15 | tensai | fiber cut is 17984 feet out of Qwest's Cheyenne Yellowstone building |
| 23:29.34 | jsmith | Yuck. |
| 23:29.39 | elg | el paso is flooding |
| 23:29.39 | tensai | anybody wanna run up there with a few wire nuts and try to patch it together? |
| 23:29.40 | jsmith | Three miles from the CO |
| 23:29.51 | jsmith | tensai: Is it multi-mode or single-mode? |
| 23:30.19 | tensai | jsmith: no idea. I can't imagine splicing either will be much fun. |
| 23:30.21 | vontrapp | elg, do you remmeber what i told you i was putting in my yams, spicewise? |
| 23:30.33 | elg | no. |
| 23:30.34 | jsmith | vontrapp: Nutmeg |
| 23:30.40 | vontrapp | jsmith: got that |
| 23:30.41 | elg | raw eggs |
| 23:30.45 | vontrapp | nope |
| 23:30.50 | elg | pepper? |
| 23:30.50 | graphyx | I agree with jsmith NOT meg.. |
| 23:30.52 | elg | salt |
| 23:30.54 | jsmith | vontrapp: Touch of salt... |
| 23:30.55 | graphyx | she;s too cool for that stuff. |
| 23:31.06 | elg | i disagree. meg would be awesome seasoning |
| 23:31.10 | sjansen | It's the apocolypse!!! |
| 23:31.18 | vontrapp | curry, salt, nutmeg, thyme, basil, lemon juice |
| 23:31.19 | elg | -lart sjansen |
| 23:31.30 | elg | sjansen: how's that for apocalypse? |
| 23:31.35 | sjansen | Internet access being cut, flooding, winds -- repent ye, repent ye! |
| 23:31.37 | vontrapp | pepper... |
| 23:31.48 | sjansen | elg: worse |
| 23:32.01 | sjansen | I can't think. I feel so boxed in. |
| 23:32.07 | vontrapp | internet is out? |
| 23:32.34 | sjansen | This 40x24 terminal can't contain my rage, I must lash out! |
| 23:32.45 | sjansen | ~travolta elg |
| 23:32.47 | ibot | ACTION replaces elg with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 23:32.51 | vontrapp | elg: i think that was all of it |
| 23:33.09 | elg | i can't even remember what it was you didn't have that you called for an opinion on |
| 23:33.16 | elg | i mostly ignored you |
| 23:33.22 | elg | because I don't much care for yams |
| 23:33.32 | elg | although I enjoy eating the marshmallows off of them |
| 23:33.34 | sjansen | elg ignores me all the time |
| 23:33.41 | sjansen | I think he's jealous of my good looks. |
| 23:33.46 | elg | it's the beard |
| 23:33.51 | elg | I'm jealous of the beard |
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| 23:37.46 | elg | thi sis great |
| 23:37.46 | elg | http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2006/08/ebay-of-day-evil-baby-head-theremin.html |
| 23:37.47 | brac | [Music thing: eBay of the day: Evil baby head theremin] |
| 23:38.27 | vontrapp | ~spell cauliflour |
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| 23:39.09 | vontrapp | what's a good veggie for yams? |
| 23:39.11 | elg | kalil that's what you wanted |
| 23:39.16 | elg | yam is a veggie. go with steak |
| 23:39.21 | vontrapp | ~dict kalil |
| 23:39.46 | mdirc | Does ubuntu block remote connections coming in from a machine on a WAN? I am trying to access vnc remotely from a windows macihen using port forwarding in putty, but I keep getting "Forwarded connection refused by server" in the putty log. Any idea? |
| 23:39.49 | elg | kalil abdum jafar |
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| 23:40.21 | vontrapp | ssh generally blocks forwarding from a wan |
| 23:40.31 | elg | -weather kpvu |
| 23:40.32 | brac | The weather stored for KPVU could not be parsed (KPVU 012120Z E31005KT 15SM SCT060 BKN090 M/M A3005) |
| 23:40.34 | sjansen | mdirc: IIRC, the default is no firewall |
| 23:40.35 | elg | -weather klru |
| 23:40.36 | brac | 29 minutes ago, on Tue Aug 01 23:12:00 UTC 2006, the wind was blowing at a speed of 3.09 meters per second (6.90 miles per hour) from the Southeast at KLRU. The temperature was 20 degrees Celsius (68 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1019 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 100.0%. There were overcast clouds at a height of 61 meters (200 feet). Current weather is Light Rain . |
| 23:40.47 | sjansen | However, that doesn't mean VNC is allowing remote connections. |
| 23:40.52 | vontrapp | elg: sure, steak is great, i was thinking something to cook with the yams |
| 23:41.00 | vontrapp | _in_ the yams |
| 23:41.07 | sjansen | mdirc: What have you done to debug the problem so far? |
| 23:41.10 | graphyx | don't put steak in the yams either. |
| 23:41.16 | mdirc | I also enabled ForwardAgent yes and ForwardX11 yes in ssh_config, and X11Forwarding yes in sshd_config |
| 23:41.50 | vontrapp | elg: no kidding |
| 23:41.55 | mdirc | I can ssh into the remote ubuntu server, and I can connect using the vnc client if I am on the same lan |
| 23:42.00 | graphyx | wish we had some here. |
| 23:42.11 | graphyx | it's only 99degrees with 70% humidity |
| 23:42.12 | elg | graphyx: some steak? |
| 23:42.18 | graphyx | steak would be nice too. |
| 23:42.46 | elg | 100% humidity here |
| 23:43.04 | sjansen | Try setting up a more simple port forward first. Are you familiar with nc? |
| 23:43.10 | vontrapp | 100% hansidity |
| 23:43.17 | mdirc | sjansen nc? |
| 23:43.21 | sjansen | netcat |
| 23:43.23 | graphyx | netcat |
| 23:43.34 | vontrapp | night cat |
| 23:43.45 | elg | niels cronk |
| 23:44.10 | vontrapp | nasty croutons |
| 23:44.11 | mdirc | not familiar - so what do I do with netcat |
| 23:44.17 | sjansen | I'd start nc listening, then create the port forward connected to it. On the windows machine, try to connect to the port forward. If what you type on the Windows box is printed by nc on the Ubuntu box, you did the port forward right. |
| 23:44.20 | graphyx | lots of stuff. |
| 23:44.33 | elg | that's like asking what you can do with duct tape |
| 23:44.38 | graphyx | google playing with the lovely netcat |
| 23:44.58 | sjansen | My guess is that you just have a problem with the port forward. Wrong port, wrong direction something like that. |
| 23:45.10 | graphyx | elg: good simile |
| 23:45.19 | herlo | harleypig: http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail220.html |
| 23:45.33 | sjansen | If vnc works on the LAN but not through the port forward, it's either a problem with the port forward or with Windows. |
| 23:45.52 | tensai | mdirc: have you tried ssh -v? |
| 23:46.09 | elg | herlo: that's a real flattering pause shot |
| 23:46.20 | sjansen | tensai: thanks for being more reasonable, that would be a better first step wouldn't it? |
| 23:46.32 | mdirc | so nc -l -p, should p be the port I am trying to do local port forwardin from my local machine? |
| 23:46.56 | mdirc | that is p is the port on the remote machine where I want the local port to be forwarded over ssh? |
| 23:47.51 | mdirc | tensai: I am using putty on windows and am not running putty in the command line mode |
| 23:48.18 | herlo | elg: to what are you referencing? |
| 23:48.29 | elg | the pic of wheaton |
| 23:48.31 | sjansen | herlo: the view of Wil's nostrils |
| 23:48.45 | herlo | elg: sjansen: that was for harleypig |
| 23:48.53 | elg | anyone looks like an idiot with half-closed eyes and half-open mouth |
| 23:48.56 | herlo | besides I didn't take the pic |
| 23:49.28 | elg | it's risky, I know, but I usually click on links intended for harleypig |
| 23:49.36 | herlo | elg: sjansen: have you listened to his podcast from gnomedex? It's absolutely hilarious. He is a great speaker |
| 23:49.48 | herlo | elg: funny man |
| 23:50.28 | sjansen | mdirc: pick a random port for nc to listen on, say "nc -l -p 3117". Then create the port forward so that when a connection is made to a port on the Windows box it forwards to port 3117 on the Ubuntu box. |
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| 23:50.57 | sjansen | herlo: nah, don't feel like dedicating an hour to it |
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| 23:51.22 | herlo | sjansen: its really actually worth it. Give it 10 minutes, if you are not convinced, i will give you those 10 minutes back |
| 23:51.50 | sjansen | Define "give you those 10 minutes back". |
| 23:54.12 | sjansen | Are we talking manual labor, you scrubbing my shower or washing my car? That might be worth it. |
| 23:54.54 | herlo | hmm, more like I will take 10 minutes of my time to do your bidding on something you think is important, something that's *not* manual labor |
| 23:55.14 | elg | sjansen: I think he's volunteering as plug webmaster |
| 23:55.17 | herlo | maybe something you think is cool that I should see or listen too |
| 23:55.17 | mdirc | sjansen: I forwarded the ports in putty, logged in and started nc -l -p 3117. Now do I use telnet localhost 8765 to check teh forwarding? |
| 23:55.17 | tensai | herlo: go for the shower cleaning. considering the stench, I'm guessing it's completely unused. |
| 23:55.37 | herlo | tensai: I have to work with that guy, so I'd better be careful |
| 23:55.43 | sjansen | mdirc: That all depends on how you set up the port foward. Probably. |
| 23:56.11 | tensai | herlo: good point. I recommend nose plugs. |
| 23:56.25 | mdirc | sjansen: I setup local port 8765 to be forwared to the remote-host-ip:3117 |
| 23:56.56 | sjansen | Then yes, telnet localhost 8765 should come out of nc. |
| 23:57.35 | vontrapp | why not port 1337? |
| 23:57.36 | Tene | -urls |
| 23:57.36 | brac | [2006/08/01 17:45:20] <herlo> http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail220.html |
| 23:57.36 | brac | [2006/08/01 17:37:47] <elg> http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2006/08/ebay-of-day-evil-baby-head-theremin.html |
| 23:57.36 | brac | [2006/08/01 16:52:49] <graphyx> http://kutv.com/video/?id=17969@kutv.dayport.com |
| 23:57.37 | brac | [2006/08/01 16:17:18] <mrpull> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OC48 |
| 23:57.53 | mdirc | sjansen: I am able to see what I type on the remote host where nc is listening |
| 23:58.08 | elg | congrats |
| 23:58.27 | sjansen | That means your port forward is working wonderfully. |
| 23:59.19 | sjansen | Now try to get VNC connecting to port 8765 and watch to see if a bunch of random stuff comes out on the Ubuntu side. |
| 23:59.40 | tensai | it will start with "RFB" |
