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| 00:14.07 | elg | anyone have a wireless card recommendation? |
| 00:14.11 | elg | cardbus or usb |
| 00:14.21 | tene | Yeah. |
| 00:14.34 | tene | d-link dwl-650 |
| 00:14.48 | maquis | elg: my laptop has ipw2915 ... all the ipw ones are supposed to be really good |
| 00:14.48 | tene | or a generic relable. |
| 00:14.55 | elg | is that gonna plug and play with dapper? |
| 00:15.30 | elg | this is a student. we installed dapper on her vaio, works great. today she brings in her wireless card |
| 00:15.30 | maquis | elg: 2915 is plug and play with breezy and... whatever was before it |
| 00:15.47 | elg | it's a gigafast something or other with a rtl8180l chipset |
| 00:15.59 | elg | and dapper recognized it, and it associated with the WAP |
| 00:16.18 | elg | but I couldn't get it to talk a single IP packet |
| 00:16.28 | elg | or ICMP or DHCP or whatever |
| 00:16.33 | elg | so wierd. |
| 00:17.08 | maquis | and the card works fine in windows still? |
| 00:17.52 | elg | yeah |
| 00:18.30 | elg | and she had a usb thing that only worked if it was positioned just right (in windows) and linux recognized it as a D-Link device but didn't go any further than that |
| 00:18.36 | elg | e.g. no output from iwconfig |
| 00:18.44 | elg | so it's a double-strike |
| 00:19.08 | maquis | personlly, i'd get a new card... but i can understand if she's somewhat hesitant |
| 00:19.11 | elg | maquis: so where do you buy an ipw2915 card? |
| 00:19.21 | maquis | elg: good question... it came in my laptop |
| 00:19.23 | elg | well I'd never think of getting a new card, but I think she's going to |
| 00:19.24 | maquis | it's a nice card, though |
| 00:19.37 | maquis | ABG, kismet, etc |
| 00:19.44 | elg | I'm a cheapskate with a never die attitude. as long as I think it might work I keep at it |
| 00:19.50 | elg | kind of silly , really |
| 00:20.10 | elg | it's the onboard chip? |
| 00:20.14 | maquis | the first one sounds like it *ought* to work, but the second, i'm not sure on |
| 00:20.18 | maquis | elg: no idea? |
| 00:20.37 | elg | yeah, the first one by all means should be working fine |
| 00:24.15 | maquis | the other one, i wouldn't give a second look to |
| 00:24.32 | maquis | it sounds like it's got hardware issues |
| 00:25.57 | elg | yeah, I told her to take it to a frankenstine^WEE friend |
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| 00:27.23 | elg | tene: g650? |
| 00:27.30 | elg | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833127116 |
| 00:29.26 | tene | dunno |
| 00:35.29 | goozbach | ok so how much should a comma be worth? |
| 00:35.34 | goozbach | as in ',' |
| 00:36.04 | goozbach | I had one that cost me $1000 |
| 00:36.34 | goozbach | I wrote a check for $2 000 |
| 00:36.41 | goozbach | put a comma after the two |
| 00:36.50 | goozbach | and it was a fairly big comma |
| 00:37.02 | goozbach | so it was interpreted as a three |
| 00:37.11 | maquis | goozbach: ouch |
| 00:37.22 | goozbach | yeah |
| 00:37.28 | maquis | goozbach: they didn't notice that you had written out "two thousand" on the other line? |
| 00:37.35 | goozbach | maquis: nope |
| 00:37.44 | goozbach | luckily it was a check to my grandma |
| 00:37.57 | goozbach | so she and I are both going to fix it come morning |
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| 00:41.53 | findlay | goozbach: what are you going to do with the spare $1000? |
| 00:42.01 | findlay | it must be somewhat of a liability |
| 00:42.07 | findlay | so, I'll take it |
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| 01:07.48 | elg | this one looks good |
| 01:07.49 | elg | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833181010 |
| 01:07.53 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
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| 01:15.33 | findlay | does anybody want to watch a movie? |
| 01:15.42 | elg | sure |
| 01:17.42 | mheath | Cool, I leave in like 12 hours now. |
| 01:24.34 | findlay | what should we watch? |
| 01:32.26 | elg | wow, I never knew this: |
| 01:32.27 | elg | When a dependency's name has the form `-lname', make handles it specially by searching for the file `libname.a' in the current directory, in directories specified by matching vpath search paths and the VPATH search path, and then in the directories `/lib', `/usr/lib', and `prefix/lib' (normally `/usr/local/lib'). |
| 01:32.32 | elg | (gnu make) |
| 01:37.24 | vontrapp | pirates 2! |
| 01:38.28 | findlay | anybody have a pirated copy? ha ha |
| 01:38.39 | vontrapp | hehe |
| 01:38.59 | findlay | I hate using words coined by the enemy |
| 01:43.10 | findlay | you know what was really fun? |
| 01:45.06 | findlay | yesterday I had a dictionary ssh attack and then `/etc/init.d/denyhosts start && rc-update add denyhosts default` and 2 seconds later denyhosts mails root of another entry in /etc/hosts.deny |
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| 01:51.03 | findlay | ibot: my mind *is* made up |
| 01:51.29 | findlay | ~my mind |
| 01:51.34 | findlay | ibot: my mind is made up |
| 01:51.36 | ibot | findlay: okay |
| 01:51.42 | findlay | ~my mind |
| 01:51.43 | ibot | i guess my mind is made up |
| 01:52.02 | herlo1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.04 | ibot | bugger off sod! |
| 01:55.04 | herlo1 | ne 1 seen 'prairie home companion' movie yet? |
| 01:58.13 | findlay | ~hig gentoo |
| 01:58.30 | findlay | evidently ibot doesn't know what a Higgs boson is |
| 01:58.36 | findlay | ~hug gentoo |
| 01:58.38 | ibot | ACTION hugs gentoo |
| 01:58.38 | vontrapp | ~hicky gentoo |
| 01:58.49 | findlay | ~higgs boson |
| 01:58.56 | findlay | ~wiki higgs boson |
| 01:59.41 | findlay | what? |
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| 02:00.01 | findlay | I'm not so sure the vanilla Standard Model predicts the Higgs Boson |
| 02:00.32 | findlay | the Higgs Boson is more like a logical extension of the Standard Model |
| 02:00.34 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 02:00.50 | findlay | duh |
| 02:00.59 | findlay | who writes wikipedia articles anyway? |
| 02:01.01 | findlay | ibot? |
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| 02:15.42 | mheath | OK, I'm going to shut down my computer and finish getting packed up |
| 02:15.49 | mheath | I'll see you all in a week and a half. |
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| 03:13.25 | mheath | meh, I'll IRC from my desktop for a bit. |
| 03:40.09 | xbmodder_newlapp | Yayayaa! |
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| 04:07.05 | dilvie | hi |
| 04:08.00 | maquis | hi |
| 04:09.55 | dilvie | I found the perfect wine for my red wine blackberry sauce. |
| 04:10.11 | dilvie | 2003 Liberty School Cabernet Sauvignon |
| 04:10.25 | dilvie | it's really inexpensive and very fruity. |
| 04:11.04 | dilvie | Much better than grocery store cooking wine, and not much more expensive. |
| 04:12.35 | xbmodder_newlapp | so.... |
| 04:12.52 | xbmodder_newlapp | What are you eating with this? |
| 04:13.13 | xbmodder_newlapp | ~ping |
| 04:13.20 | ibot | pong |
| 04:14.29 | dilvie | xbmodder: the first thing I used the sauce for was french toast .. made the best french toast I've ever tasted. |
| 04:16.31 | dilvie | last night I used it for chocolate cake, along with some vanilla bean ice-cream, and some fresh whipped cream. |
| 04:16.33 | dilvie | yum. |
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| 04:44.07 | maquis | yummy |
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| 07:09.35 | vontrapp | anyone in provo know what the hell that obnoxious bang was? |
| 07:09.52 | vontrapp | happened twice already |
| 07:10.00 | tene | monsters? |
| 07:10.44 | vontrapp | it was loud enough i could feel a concussion wave (very slight, but i felt it) |
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| 07:20.13 | tene | vontrapp: secret government test airplane. |
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| 12:30.05 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 12:30.26 | mheath_ | ibot is asleep. |
| 12:30.30 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See openclue.org/ut/, sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com, utaug.org, ubuntu-utah.org |
| 12:30.44 | mheath_ | How are you, sjansen? |
| 12:32.48 | mheath_ | OK, Fine |
| 12:32.53 | mheath_ | see you all in a week and a hal |
| 12:32.55 | mheath_ | *half |
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| 13:05.50 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
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| 13:07.00 | emcnabb | ~lart RyanE_ |
| 13:07.14 | emcnabb | ibot, you're on the ball this morning! |
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| 13:44.42 | goozbach | ha ha |
| 13:56.38 | sjansen | ~dog emcnabb |
| 13:56.40 | ibot | ACTION stares at emcnabb until emcnabb whimpers and pees all over himself. |
| 13:58.24 | redbeard1 | ~lart sjansen |
| 13:59.20 | goozbach | ~plop sjansen |
| 13:59.22 | ibot | ACTION plops sjansen into a giant vat of herring |
| 13:59.43 | sjansen | o/~ Can you feel the love... ~/o |
| 14:00.47 | redbeard1 | http://www.bathsheba.com/gallery/snow2002/ |
| 14:00.48 | brac | [Bathsheba Grossman - Snow Sculpture] |
| 14:00.53 | redbeard1 | nifty! |
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| 14:03.35 | goozbach | sfw? |
| 14:04.43 | goozbach | aparently so |
| 14:18.37 | redbeard1 | dude, that stuff is killer |
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| 14:19.01 | Kuyaedz-work | anyone know any OSS speech to text apps? |
| 14:27.51 | macnewbold | I'd bet there are some text-to-speech apps, but the other way around, I'm not sure... are there even any good OSS OCR programs? |
| 14:28.16 | macnewbold | if so, we could probably tweak it to defeat those stupid CAPTCHA images... |
| 14:34.57 | Kuyaedz-work | all I'm finding is text to speech |
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| 14:48.41 | sjansen | Kuyaedz-work: festival & emacspeak are two I know about |
| 14:48.55 | sjansen | Oh, sorry, misread. |
| 14:49.15 | sjansen | Uhm.... I think emacspeak can do primitive speech to text. |
| 14:50.00 | sjansen | IBM supposedly Open Sourced some of their speech stuff, but I haven't seen anything really come of it so maybe they just dumped some old junk on the OSS community... Don't remember what it was called now. |
| 14:51.11 | sjansen | macnewbold: Who needs OCR? Promise people free porn in exchange for deciphering captchas. That's the reason captcha is doomed in the long term. |
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| 15:02.06 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 15:02.11 | vontrapp | -lart elg |
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| 15:04.25 | elg | sweet. now I just need aring like a bull |
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| 15:27.14 | goozbach | "I |
| 15:27.22 | goozbach | I missed a lot while on vacation |
| 15:27.27 | graphyx | hey herlo |
| 15:27.30 | goozbach | freedb closing? |
| 15:27.35 | goozbach | finished? |
| 15:27.48 | graphyx | herlo: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/3955 |
| 15:28.10 | goozbach | man, gotta love "I'm taking my ball and going home!" |
| 15:28.30 | goozbach | we need a company to take over ala TLA vs BAZ |
| 15:28.44 | goozbach | (keeping things oss of course) |
| 15:29.28 | herlo | graphyx: played it |
| 15:29.55 | herlo | graphyx: its a pretty cool game |
| 15:30.39 | elg | goozbach: yeah, looks like it was a prime example of bad management and losers |
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| 15:31.30 | elg | -lart vontrapp ' |
| 15:32.02 | vontrapp | elg: ugh, still getting those darned unexpected eof |
| 15:32.16 | herlo | vontrapp: do you enjoy it? |
| 15:32.18 | vontrapp | methinks i may have to jump into that stupid lib and fix something |
| 15:32.22 | elg | i should crack open the code and see what I can see |
| 15:32.36 | elg | it seems to happen when it cancels a song that's already playing |
| 15:32.51 | vontrapp | i added a rescue that will reconnect to mpd (make a new object) |
| 15:32.55 | vontrapp | but that doesn't seem to work |
| 15:33.12 | vontrapp | that's not it |
| 15:33.14 | graphyx | herlo: My boss plays it and he likes it. |
| 15:33.21 | elg | herlo: he seemed to |
| 15:33.33 | elg | I was nonplussed the time I played it |
| 15:33.35 | vontrapp | i took out dequeue altogether from the engine |
| 15:33.37 | vontrapp | still happens |
| 15:33.42 | elg | but I was in a weird mood |
| 15:33.54 | elg | the eof comes from who to whom? |
| 15:34.09 | vontrapp | herlo: oh, i thought you were asking if i enjoyed the eof |
| 15:34.13 | vontrapp | yes i enjoyed the game |
| 15:34.33 | elg | past tense? |
| 15:34.41 | hagna | it's pretty hard to subscribe to uug since it won't send an email confirmation to me |
| 15:34.43 | vontrapp | still do... |
| 15:34.52 | vontrapp | the eof comes from mpd.rb to imms_mpd.rb |
| 15:34.55 | hagna | anyone know more about that |
| 15:34.57 | hagna | ? |
| 15:35.11 | vontrapp | ~baloon elg |
| 15:35.17 | vontrapp | ~balloon elg |
| 15:35.24 | vontrapp | ~pop elg |
| 15:35.25 | ibot | ibot offers elg a thin mint. |
| 15:35.34 | vontrapp | stupid bot |
| 15:36.08 | elg | ~whale vontrapp |
| 15:36.10 | hagna | ~ibot |
| 15:36.11 | ibot | well, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 15:36.55 | vontrapp | i'm toying with an idea of having the engine (imms_mpd) store the selected song but not enqueueing it right away |
| 15:36.59 | elg | hmm. I told someone I was going to blog something the other day |
| 15:37.03 | elg | and now I can't remember what it was |
| 15:37.03 | vontrapp | only enqueues when the playlist ends, but it has it ready |
| 15:37.37 | vontrapp | but i'm getting this odd thing where it ends up enqueueing the _entire_ collection |
| 15:37.49 | vontrapp | not exactly optimal |
| 15:37.52 | elg | vontrapp: there's a usability hole. most clients are not very helpful in moving/adding a song/group of songs to the end of the playlist |
| 15:38.11 | vontrapp | elg: what clients? |
| 15:38.14 | vontrapp | gmpc does it |
| 15:38.17 | vontrapp | mpc does it |
| 15:38.18 | elg | ncmpc for example |
| 15:38.22 | elg | well you can use a |
| 15:38.26 | vontrapp | -lart ncmpc |
| 15:38.29 | elg | but you have to know the filename |
| 15:38.32 | elg | and you can browse |
| 15:38.34 | elg | but you have to browse |
| 15:38.42 | elg | if you use / to search, then the best you can do is jump to it |
| 15:38.58 | vontrapp | elg: and that's only if it's already in the playlist? |
| 15:39.02 | elg | and that's only if its in the playlist |
| 15:40.12 | goozbach | it seems that every other week there's someone getting arrested here in Florida for practicing densistry without a license |
| 15:40.12 | vontrapp | i'm with you |
| 15:40.19 | elg | shouldn't be the least bit difficult to write a daemon in ruby using existing tools to play |
| 15:40.41 | goozbach | every one of them seem to be related to people wanting "grillz" |
| 15:41.07 | elg | I was thinking more like 'mpg123' and sox and stuff |
| 15:41.18 | elg | goozbach: 'grillz'? |
| 15:41.34 | goozbach | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grill_%28jewelry%29 |
| 15:41.37 | elg | but gstreamer could be done as well. no doubt someone would come along convinced gstreamer is the way of the future |
| 15:42.17 | elg | might could even use the same protocol, with extensions |
| 15:42.27 | elg | so the existing mpd clients would work |
| 15:43.14 | vontrapp | would we be able to do notifications without breaking the current api? |
| 15:43.55 | vontrapp | but if we build imms in then we don't as much need notification |
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| 15:44.51 | elg | you have got to be kidding me |
| 15:45.03 | vontrapp | "as much" |
| 15:45.07 | vontrapp | it would still be nice :) |
| 15:45.26 | elg | i'd have to look at the protocol |
| 15:46.49 | elg | "Skip the dental bling - 'grills' bad for teeth" |
| 15:46.50 | elg | duh |
| 15:46.50 | elg | duh |
| 15:47.25 | levi | 'grills' bad for X, for all X. |
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| 15:54.38 | levi | I had heat exhaustion yesterday. That really sucked. |
| 15:55.06 | elg | yikes. that's no fun |
| 15:55.48 | levi | No. I barfed my guts up, had to get my wife to pick me up from work, and barfed my guts up again once I got home. |
| 15:59.42 | hagna | subscribing to uug is broken |
| 15:59.45 | hagna | help |
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| 16:17.33 | graphyx | So someone should come up with a power supply that allows for AC 110/220 input as well as the DC 3.3/5/12 connections. |
| 16:17.55 | graphyx | So that the transistion from a AC to a DC environment could occur with the switch of a plug for that server. |
| 16:18.04 | graphyx | Could be quite useful for some data centers. |
| 16:21.16 | goozbach | yup |
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| 16:40.40 | beandog | Does anyone know if Comcast offers an nntp server? |
| 16:41.12 | elg | does anybody know whether comcast knows what nntp is? |
| 16:41.16 | beandog | doh, there it is. |
| 16:43.19 | beandog | man, I cant even *remember* my comcast username. |
| 16:44.08 | levi | Yeah, I used comcast's nntp server for a while. |
| 16:45.05 | levi | I don't think it's actually run by comcast, IIRC, but comcast does offer it with their internet service. |
| 16:45.43 | levi | Heh, Ars Technica blasts that bogus 'Reverse Hyperthreading' thing the Register mentioned a while ago. |
| 16:46.23 | levi | Looks like we're going to have to learn distributed parallel computing after all. |
| 16:48.05 | harleypig | Wow ... http://www.feministmormonhousewives.org/ |
| 16:49.00 | sjansen | goozbach: It's time to accept that baz and tla are dead. Time to move on. |
| 16:56.14 | elg | hehe |
| 16:57.16 | goozbach | sjansen: what do you use for revision control? :) |
| 16:59.46 | sjansen | Moving to bzr |
| 17:00.06 | sjansen | Using it for personal stuff now. Planning on moving GL soon. |
| 17:01.07 | sjansen | Of course, elg prefers darcs. |
| 17:01.23 | sjansen | And Linus prefers git. |
| 17:01.50 | sjansen | goozbach: They're almost as smart as me, so you might want to consider their opinion too. |
| 17:01.54 | beandog | offering, even. |
| 17:02.49 | beandog | http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2006-July/061496.html |
| 17:02.53 | brac | [[MPlayer-users] Matroska chapter support] |
| 17:03.43 | sjansen | Oh, man! And things were going so well too. s/spell/to spell/ *sigh* |
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| 17:09.53 | rsimpkins | What if.... we had system administration apprentice programs. free, open, anyone can do it. |
| 17:10.05 | rsimpkins | A volunteer effort to help Jr's grow in their linux power. |
| 17:10.57 | amcnabb | Does anyone know how stable Apache 2.2 is considered to be right now? |
| 17:11.43 | amcnabb | mod_authn_alias looks very exciting to me. |
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| 17:15.35 | rsimpkins | Do most people start out these days wanting to be developers - not sys admins? Is there a secret clan of SysAdmin wanna bes out there some where? |
| 17:20.25 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 17:28.46 | beandog | Im not sure which I like better .. sysadmin or developer |
| 17:29.09 | beandog | I think what I really enjoy is being a dev who can setup the system how it needs to be. :) |
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| 17:58.20 | elg | hah. skype cracked |
| 18:06.08 | macnewbold | cracked under pressure, or someone cracked it? have a link? |
| 18:07.00 | QBFreak | slashdot |
| 18:07.05 | herlo | macnewbold: /. |
| 18:07.12 | graphyx | http://www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=22974 |
| 18:07.34 | herlo | http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/06/07/14/1514226.shtml |
| 18:08.19 | beandog | "Even if it was possible to do this, the software code would lack the feature set and reliability of Skype," according to a statement from Skype. |
| 18:08.26 | beandog | classic response. |
| 18:11.10 | goozbach | http://66.132.137.45/podcast/steves_viral/DJ_teds_techno_tubes.mp3 |
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| 18:11.58 | findlay | what's everybody's favorite gimp perl module? |
| 18:12.23 | elg | beandog: hehe |
| 18:12.57 | goozbach | gimpperl? |
| 18:12.58 | goozbach | hmmm |
| 18:13.02 | goozbach | ... |
| 18:13.09 | QBFreak | the red one |
| 18:13.10 | Supaplex | hello world. ;) |
| 18:18.25 | elg | levi_: ping |
| 18:24.24 | goozbach | findlay: spining globe is neato |
| 18:25.06 | findlay | goozbach: how do I do that with gimp-perl? |
| 18:25.25 | findlay | actually, all I need to do is script some image processing |
| 18:25.48 | findlay | about 600 Mib of images |
| 18:27.31 | beandog | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=06/07/13/1654200&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=nested&cid=15715642 |
| 18:27.33 | beandog | :) |
| 18:32.42 | goozbach | WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT? http://www.ranosoft.net/wifitalkie/ |
| 18:32.43 | brac | [RNS:: WiFiTalkie - VoIP technology in your Palm] |
| 18:32.44 | findlay | I modded it up |
| 18:32.57 | goozbach | can anyone say astetics |
| 18:33.07 | findlay | ~say astetics |
| 18:33.09 | ibot | astetics |
| 18:33.26 | goozbach | it's like a color pallet threw up |
| 18:35.54 | beandog | netflix++ |
| 18:36.14 | beandog | The 8 dvd-at-a-time plan is the most affordable. |
| 18:36.14 | beandog | :D |
| 18:36.23 | elg | hehe. |
| 18:36.37 | elg | am I missing something? is there a drawback to taking the 5-dvd free trial? |
| 18:36.45 | beandog | The cost per dvd per month does go down the more DVDs you rent |
| 18:37.06 | beandog | elg: I think that's actually their most popular plan |
| 18:37.21 | beandog | 1 DVD = $10/mo, 3 DVDs = $18/mo |
| 18:37.28 | elg | well if I sign up (and I probably will if the turnaround time is decent) it'll be with the 1-dvd plan |
| 18:37.32 | beandog | 8 = $50/mo, woo hoo! |
| 18:37.46 | elg | or maybe the 2 |
| 18:38.00 | beandog | Whats great is how fast you get the discs, too |
| 18:38.04 | beandog | I'll mail one out on Monday |
| 18:38.10 | beandog | they get it Tuesday, send me a new one same day |
| 18:38.17 | beandog | and I have it in my grubby lil hands on Wed. |
| 18:38.18 | elg | just got through with the blockbuster online trial |
| 18:38.39 | elg | from when i stick it in the blue box to when I got the next one was often more than 7 days |
| 18:38.40 | beandog | how was that? |
| 18:38.42 | elg | abysmal |
| 18:38.46 | beandog | eek |
| 18:38.52 | elg | but I don't know if it was their problem or our usps |
| 18:39.02 | beandog | where do you live? |
| 18:39.06 | elg | las cruces |
| 18:39.08 | elg | nm |
| 18:39.17 | elg | we've had issues with our usps |
| 18:39.17 | beandog | Hmm |
| 18:39.20 | beandog | poopy. |
| 18:39.29 | elg | but maybe netflix sends it at higher priority |
| 18:39.42 | elg | blockbuster does say expect it in about 3 days |
| 18:39.47 | elg | so 3 days the other way too |
| 18:39.49 | elg | 6 days |
| 18:40.14 | elg | they send out an email saying when they receive and when they ship |
| 18:40.19 | elg | usually the two emails came on the same day |
| 18:40.25 | elg | but one had a gap of 3 days |
| 18:40.27 | beandog | yah, netflix does the same |
| 18:40.30 | beandog | and they have RSS feeds |
| 18:40.38 | elg | rss is cool |
| 18:40.48 | elg | does netflix do some AI recommending? |
| 18:40.54 | beandog | Well what Ive found is that if the movie is lesser known, theyll ship it out from another location |
| 18:41.09 | beandog | Im pretty sure they dont stock everything at each shipping warehouse |
| 18:41.14 | beandog | Yah |
| 18:41.19 | beandog | good engine, I think. |
| 18:41.26 | findlay | screen r0x0rz |
| 18:41.27 | beandog | my queue is completely full, heh |
| 18:41.27 | elg | can you control any preferences on it? |
| 18:41.35 | beandog | You can set a rating control |
| 18:41.35 | elg | like I don't want to wade through R movies |
| 18:41.38 | beandog | I dont have anything over pg-13 |
| 18:41.42 | elg | blockbuster didn't |
| 18:41.43 | beandog | So it doesnt even display them in search |
| 18:41.51 | beandog | or recommendations, etc. |
| 18:42.03 | elg | and their recommendation was therefore mostly useless. like 10 movies per screen, 2 of which weren't rated r, and their site was sloow |
| 18:42.14 | beandog | it might actually be a per-rating thing too, versus <> |
| 18:42.37 | elg | cool. I think I'll like it. |
| 18:42.44 | beandog | The Friends thing is pretty cool too |
| 18:42.50 | elg | I didn't expect blockbuster to be better than netflix. i just waned the free trial. :) |
| 18:43.14 | elg | so i can switch my plan any time, right? |
| 18:43.20 | beandog | yah |
| 18:43.29 | elg | so I should be safe going with the 5-dvd free trial |
| 18:43.31 | beandog | You can upgrade right away and they will prorate it |
| 18:43.37 | elg | i feel like this is an intelligence test |
| 18:43.39 | beandog | But if you downgrade, it wont kick in til the next month. |
| 18:44.50 | beandog | The only thing I dont like is the 500 queue limit. |
| 18:44.51 | beandog | :C |
| 18:44.57 | elg | lol |
| 18:45.59 | beandog | thats another thing, bumping stuff around in the queue is easy. |
| 18:46.04 | beandog | You can move them to a certain # |
| 18:46.08 | beandog | or just easily bump to top |
| 18:47.58 | beandog | :) |
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| 19:17.45 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | help! |
| 19:18.01 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | I'm tryint to remove a file that starts with -- |
| 19:18.10 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | it thinks I'm trying to pass it an option |
| 19:18.25 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | and when I surround it with '' it acts like it's removing the file, but doesn't |
| 19:18.38 | beandog | find . | grep "--" | xargs rm $1 or something might work |
| 19:18.39 | levi | Use -- as a separator before the -- filename. |
| 19:18.50 | levi | ls -- --foo |
| 19:19.05 | jnbek | or rm -v \-\- |
| 19:19.10 | beandog | or use konqueror |
| 19:19.22 | beandog | I like jnbek's idea |
| 19:19.36 | levi | The -- arg tells getopt to stop processing. |
| 19:19.44 | goozbach | rm -- --foo would be better |
| 19:19.52 | goozbach | for the reason levi stated |
| 19:20.12 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | awesome rm -- --foo worked |
| 19:20.14 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | thx guys |
| 19:22.02 | graphyx | how did you get a file named --something.. |
| 19:22.03 | graphyx | ? |
| 19:22.19 | goozbach | a failed subshell can do it |
| 19:22.29 | graphyx | subshell? |
| 19:22.41 | goozbach | ala touch `echo -n`--foo |
| 19:22.59 | goozbach | subshell substitution that is |
| 19:23.07 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | graphyx: tried tar -czvf --exclude="" |
| 19:23.18 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | anyone have an example of how to use exclude w/ tar? |
| 19:23.35 | goozbach | put exclude before your -czvf |
| 19:23.44 | graphyx | m{\w{5}_1esse}: ok. |
| 19:23.45 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | k |
| 19:23.46 | levi | -f takes an argument. You probably don't want to put anything but a filename right after it. |
| 19:23.50 | goozbach | here's MY rule of thumb |
| 19:23.52 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | ah - duh |
| 19:23.54 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | thx |
| 19:25.17 | goozbach | <command> <longswitches without args> <longswitches with args> <shortswitches without args> <shortswitches with args> <program args> |
| 19:25.58 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | goozbach: good idea in this case I think having the -f in the wrong place is what messed it up |
| 19:26.30 | goozbach | you get really used to getopt when you think you can do it better yourself |
| 19:26.46 | goozbach | s/think/'THINK'/ |
| 19:27.08 | goozbach | I found a good getopt replacement function for bash however |
| 19:27.19 | goozbach | which reminds me... I need to blog that |
| 19:30.55 | beandog | goozbach: yah, do |
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| 19:49.01 | elg | yup, netflix r0x0rs blockbuster online |
| 19:49.19 | elg | they win by a long shot in website alone |
| 19:49.33 | levi | netflix is really a great service. |
| 19:49.49 | levi | I haven't tried blockbuster online, but netflix would be hard to beat. |
| 19:50.22 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | blockbuster online was slow when I had them. Netflix sends out their movies like the day after you order them. |
| 19:50.49 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | a lot better-quality dvds too. blockbuster had a lot of b0rken dvds |
| 19:51.12 | elg | levi: you missed beandog's and my discussion |
| 19:51.21 | elg | i just finished the 1-month blockbuster online trial |
| 19:51.33 | elg | 7+days turnaround sometimes, |
| 19:51.39 | elg | no rating control |
| 19:51.40 | levi | Yow. |
| 19:51.49 | elg | no multiple queues |
| 19:52.05 | elg | maybe part of the long turnaround was the local usps, so we'll see if netflix is better |
| 19:52.20 | elg | the one thing it had going for it was local store coupons, if you get spontaneous |
| 19:52.30 | elg | 1 per week on the default plan |
| 19:52.34 | elg | its website was slow |
| 19:52.46 | elg | its recommendation engine wasn't very good, imho |
| 19:53.15 | levi | For me, netflix has a 2-3 working day turnaround. It's really quick. |
| 19:54.10 | levi | I think it varies somewhat depending on whether they have the movies I've requested at nearby distribution centers, but I'm not certain. |
| 19:55.13 | graphyx | Netflix takes like 6 days for turn around to me here in Conway, AR |
| 19:55.38 | graphyx | well It I mail it Monday I expect it friday if luck. if not saturday. |
| 20:01.49 | macnewbold | ouch, that's terrible |
| 20:02.14 | macnewbold | I mail it on day 1, they get it on day 2, on day 2 or 3 they mail one back to me, I get it on day 3 or day 4 |
| 20:02.53 | macnewbold | but then again, netflix has a shipping center here in SLC I'm quite sure |
| 20:03.12 | levi | It does seem that way. |
| 20:05.32 | macnewbold | graphyx: what do your netflix envelopes say on them for the city/state/zip of "Nearest Netflix Shipping Facility" |
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| 20:11.01 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | was it RMS that was big on no windowing systems? |
| 20:12.53 | Supaplex | TimRiker: I heard a rumor you might have a spare iphone I can use to replace mine with? The screen shattered, but my phonebook is still on it. |
| 20:14.49 | spr | graphyx, you're in Conway? |
| 20:19.25 | maquis | ~curse usb |
| 20:19.28 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, usb ! |
| 20:35.38 | levi | maquis: What's usb done to you this time? |
| 20:35.58 | maquis | levi: it won't give me my key drive |
| 20:36.22 | levi | What, it's stuck in the computer? |
| 20:37.57 | maquis | no |
| 20:38.02 | maquis | it won't let me mount |
| 20:38.03 | maquis | :) |
| 20:39.14 | levi | Oh well, you can't blame that on usb. |
| 20:39.22 | maquis | yeah i can' |
| 20:39.28 | maquis | i can blame it on whoever i want :) |
| 20:39.30 | levi | Perhaps linux would be a better target for your ire. |
| 20:39.49 | maquis | that would make less sense... freebsd is a little bit closer |
| 20:40.03 | levi | Oh, well, blame freebsd then. |
| 20:40.11 | levi | I doubt the usb spec is to blame. |
| 20:40.50 | maquis | blegh! |
| 20:41.12 | levi | If you want to blame something on the IPMI spec, on the other hand... feel free! |
| 20:43.00 | graphyx | macnewbold: I think it was little rock. But I can't recall. |
| 20:43.02 | graphyx | spr: yes |
| 20:46.16 | graphyx | Re: netflix.com wow.. I returned one Tuesday and it looks like I get my next one today.. |
| 20:52.44 | goozbach | emcnabb: you got your ears on? |
| 20:54.31 | spr | graphyx, I've been there a few times. Nice area it seemed |
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| 21:01.22 | beandog | Why is it that when I leave fs type to 'auto' in /etc/fstab, it mounts a DVD as iso9660 and not UDF? |
| 21:04.17 | findlay | anybody here know how to get DHCP to update DNS? |
| 21:04.40 | tene | findlay: what DNS server and dhcp server? |
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| 21:05.29 | tene | I've done that before with djbdns's builtin dhcp |
| 21:06.48 | findlay | bind and ISC dhcpd |
| 21:09.49 | levi | Man, there are some incredibly tedious blog posts on UOSP today. |
| 21:10.18 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | anyone know how to force mediawiki to authenticate in order for a user to edit? |
| 21:10.22 | tene | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/343 |
| 21:10.25 | beandog | tedious? |
| 21:10.28 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | I can't see anything in LocalSettings.php |
| 21:10.43 | tene | actually, it was dnsmasq, not djbdns |
| 21:10.47 | tene | http://thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html |
| 21:11.19 | levi | beandog: Yes. |
| 21:11.46 | beandog | why doesnt this stupid thing mount as UDF, this is weird. |
| 21:12.08 | tene | beandog: maybe it actually is iso9660 |
| 21:12.31 | beandog | UDF-fs INFO UDF 0.9.8.1 (2004/29/09) Mounting volume 'JUSTICE_LEAGUE_S1_D2', timestamp 2005/12/21 16:41 (1e98) |
| 21:12.41 | beandog | Thats what dmesg says when I force it as UDF |
| 21:13.17 | beandog | it seems okay |
| 21:15.49 | beandog | Is there a way to tell which fs it actually is on the disc? |
| 21:16.01 | macnewbold | dd? |
| 21:16.06 | macnewbold | and look at the headerS? |
| 21:16.23 | macnewbold | you can try just running plain "mount" and see if it autodetects I guess |
| 21:17.54 | beandog | well as mount its autodetecting as iso9660 |
| 21:18.04 | beandog | but its not breaking / whining when I force to UDF. |
| 21:19.28 | beandog | and how in the world would I use dd to look at that? :T |
| 21:20.15 | TimRiker | Supaplex: iphone? or tuxscreen? |
| 21:20.25 | Supaplex | iphone |
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| 21:21.21 | TimRiker | this one: http://www.telephoneart.com/misc/iphone~1.gif |
| 21:21.34 | Supaplex | yes |
| 21:21.52 | TimRiker | I think I have one of those, but I don't even know if it boots. you want it? |
| 21:22.11 | TimRiker | it's in the box and everything. |
| 21:22.13 | Supaplex | sure. I just need the screen. |
| 21:22.19 | Supaplex | awesome |
| 21:22.22 | maquis | -lart TimRiker |
| 21:22.24 | TimRiker | well, you have to talk the whole thing. ;-) |
| 21:22.28 | TimRiker | er take... |
| 21:22.35 | Supaplex | no problem :) |
| 21:23.02 | TimRiker | sure. I live in South Jordan. wanna drop by and pick it up sometime? |
| 21:23.28 | Supaplex | Ok |
| 21:23.34 | TimRiker | priv... |
| 21:24.43 | levi | How's the iphone compare to the tuxscreen? |
| 21:25.17 | TimRiker | levi: it didn't have enough memory to make it interesting to me. and it's not color either. |
| 21:25.46 | levi | I still haven't done anything particularly interesting with my tuxscreen. |
| 21:26.37 | levi | gret? |
| 21:27.54 | gret | a fun idea I had for a backup nick |
| 21:28.01 | gret | gret is to gretel as hans is to hansel |
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| 21:31.00 | tene | http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.07/posts.html?pg=4 |
| 21:31.07 | beandog | hmm, file says it's iso9660 too |
| 21:31.16 | beandog | what a crock of beans. |
| 21:31.34 | tene | beandog: does it not work when mounted as iso9660? |
| 21:31.48 | beandog | tene: yah, it does, Im just being anal. :) |
| 21:32.08 | beandog | besides, the DVDs actually rip faster if mounted as UDF |
| 21:32.58 | beandog | slightly faster. |
| 21:33.11 | beandog | :) |
| 21:34.33 | beandog | doh |
| 21:34.45 | beandog | ISO 9660 is a standard describing a filesystem structure to be used on |
| 21:34.45 | beandog | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.45 | beandog | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.17 | TimRiker | many dvd's are iso9660/udf hybrids. the iso9660 has some limits that udf does not have as far as disc size and file size. |
| 21:37.42 | TimRiker | so mount them as udf if you can. |
| 21:38.07 | beandog | Ok |
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| 21:40.26 | brac | [Wired 14.07: POSTS] |
| 21:41.00 | elg | -lart qwest |
| 21:41.18 | elg | up and down and up and down ever since I got this 678 |
| 21:41.47 | elg | we're moving to another apt. this week. If it keeps happening I'll call qwest and make them fix it |
| 21:42.00 | elg | if they want a reason why I'm having a hard time, they can deduce it must be because I moved |
| 21:42.28 | elg | although I'm suspicious something about the actiontec is able to cope with some muckery on their part better than the 678 |
| 21:46.14 | TimRiker | elg: my old 678 would overheat a lot. I put it up in the air, seems like it was on it's side, and it was much happier. |
| 21:46.42 | elg | wonder if that might be it. I'm putting it up on a wire rack when we move |
| 21:46.54 | TimRiker | I'm using an alcatel stingway usb modem now. that allows my linux box to get the real IP from my ISP instead of having to try broken NAT goo in the 678. |
| 21:46.56 | elg | maybe gonna get a little desk fan to blow on all my electronics too |
| 21:47.04 | TimRiker | er stingray. |
| 21:47.07 | elg | the symptom is it will detrain, then not retrain for a long time |
| 21:47.15 | elg | but if I power cycle it, it retrains right back up |
| 21:47.30 | TimRiker | latest firmware? |
| 21:47.38 | elg | i have my 678 in bridging mode so I get the IP |
| 21:47.41 | TimRiker | (which is not that "late") |
| 21:47.51 | elg | yeah, tried several firmwares |
| 21:47.58 | elg | it's on the one qwest gives for download now |
| 21:48.23 | elg | and it's been quite a bit more stable with that one until today, but it could be coincidence |
| 21:48.38 | TimRiker | k. it's less evil in bridging mode, though that's a pain to setup on the DSLAM. |
| 21:49.00 | elg | how do you mean? |
| 21:49.39 | TimRiker | the other end that qwest (or your ISP) gets to deal with is a mess with customers on bridging. pppoe is much easier to admin on their end. |
| 21:50.05 | goozbach | ))) @ sprint |
| 21:50.11 | TimRiker | er pppoa |
| 21:50.13 | elg | well it's pppoe |
| 21:50.16 | goozbach | I had 13 roaming minutes this month |
| 21:50.19 | elg | my linux box does pppoe |
| 21:50.29 | goozbach | and they shut off my service |
| 21:50.35 | goozbach | 13 MINUTES |
| 21:50.36 | elg | the modem is rfc1438(?) bridging |
| 21:50.48 | goozbach | put me over the account balance |
| 21:51.01 | goozbach | s/balance/limit |
| 21:51.08 | elg | so it might be a mess at qwests end? or xmission? |
| 21:51.20 | TimRiker | goozbach: that 1 minute a month plan it not that useful then? |
| 21:52.23 | TimRiker | elg: if you still run pppoe then xmission/qwest have it easy. its the eth-over-atm that's a pain. that's the old bridging mode. |
| 21:52.54 | TimRiker | you talk to xmission about it then? they have a clue, unlike qwest. |
| 21:53.05 | elg | yeah, i've discussed it a couple of times but we haven't got anywhere |
| 21:53.11 | elg | my signal strength looks good |
| 21:53.47 | TimRiker | your line probably runs past someone's microwave. :) |
| 21:53.49 | elg | we thought it might be that I was going through one of those power strips with supposed surge protection for phone lines |
| 21:53.53 | elg | so I went direct to the wall |
| 21:53.59 | elg | lol. probably true |
| 21:54.11 | elg | and maybe it will go away when I move downstairs |
| 21:54.31 | TimRiker | I rewired my house to go direct from the outside panel with a cat5 cable to the modem, then from there to the rest of the house. |
| 21:54.54 | TimRiker | made a big difference in our place down in orem. |
| 21:55.03 | elg | yeah, if it weren't an apartment complex I'd do that for sure |
| 21:55.25 | TimRiker | so put an x-10 power controller on it, and have the host reboot it when it goes down. ;-) |
| 21:55.26 | levi | Hmm, the first 24 minutes of A Scanner Darkly are online. |
| 21:55.27 | elg | then I could plug the wall into the VOIP system, and the phones into the wall |
| 21:56.00 | elg | TimRiker: :) I may have to resort to something like that if it's still doing it when I go out of town |
| 21:56.17 | TimRiker | oh... do you have multiple pairs with digital service on one pair? |
| 21:56.32 | elg | no, just standalone dsl |
| 21:56.45 | TimRiker | some apartments have their own evil internal phone service. |
| 21:57.46 | beandog | I thought they do? |
| 21:58.04 | elg | I think that's what I have |
| 21:58.42 | elg | it's a couple bucks more, but after the savings from voip over qwest phone it's worth it |
| 21:58.53 | elg | $33 for 1.5 |
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| 22:05.20 | elg | dilvie: I was just thinking about you |
| 22:06.23 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | elg: that's scary |
| 22:06.35 | elg | standalone dsl is scary? |
| 22:07.04 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | no, you thinking about someone else |
| 22:10.33 | beandog | Id rather pay an extra $10 and be qwest-free |
| 22:11.52 | beandog | theyve screwed me over too much in the past |
| 22:12.25 | Jayce^ | you're still not truly qwest free though |
| 22:13.59 | beandog | hows that? |
| 22:14.22 | Jayce^ | they are still providing the line, and can control "how close you are" to the box (line loops, etc) |
| 22:14.34 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | go comcast to be qwest free |
| 22:14.39 | beandog | what line? |
| 22:14.42 | beandog | yah, Im using comcast. |
| 22:14.46 | elg | i don't know that comcast is any better |
| 22:14.52 | Jayce^ | beandog, the physical line in that case |
| 22:15.24 | beandog | Jayce^: Im still lost, as always |
| 22:16.03 | beandog | Ive been fortunate to have a good history with comcast |
| 22:16.06 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 22:16.29 | Jayce^ | beandog, even if you have the qwest no-dialtone plan and do voip, you still aren't qwest free |
| 22:16.48 | Jayce^ | as you are still running on their physical lines, especially the critical one to your house |
| 22:16.56 | beandog | I dont even have a phone line |
| 22:17.04 | Jayce^ | because you have comcast.. |
| 22:17.12 | Jayce^ | but some people dont' have that option |
| 22:17.41 | beandog | I just have my cell :) |
| 22:17.59 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | therefore beandog is qwest-free |
| 22:18.02 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | like me |
| 22:18.03 | beandog | Okay so Im qwest-free as in I dont have to give those jerks any money on a monthly basis. yay! |
| 22:19.04 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | the choice for me is qwest free! |
| 22:19.35 | beandog | :) |
| 22:20.07 | m{\w{5}_1esse} | now to be comcast free as well and I'd be in heaven |
| 22:20.18 | beandog | Its much easier to not have a phone when you don't have any friends to call you |
| 22:20.37 | beandog | why, you never miss it at all! |
| 22:21.37 | vontrapp | why the heck do my flash objects never have text in firefox?! |
| 22:21.47 | elg | because they're flash? |
| 22:21.50 | vontrapp | i can't even see any text or buttons in the configure dialog |
| 22:22.02 | vontrapp | (from right-click -> configure) |
| 22:22.08 | vontrapp | settings... that is |
| 22:23.14 | vontrapp | i want to do my civic duty and rate these radio songs |
| 22:23.24 | vontrapp | but alas i can't tell what i'm doing in the flash thingy |
| 22:23.38 | beandog | lol |
| 22:46.18 | spr | vontrapp, you need a certain fonts package in debian.. |
| 22:46.59 | spr | I can't remember the package at the moment though. |
| 22:48.40 | spr | gsfonts-x11 I think |
| 22:49.53 | vontrapp | spr: ooh thanks, i'll try that |
| 22:50.00 | xbmodder_newlapp | Cat fur is flammable, right? |
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| 22:54.50 | vontrapp | -lart stupid tiny-font sites |
| 23:00.15 | harleypig | xbmodder_newlapp: yeah, but lighter fluid goes a long way ... |
| 23:00.33 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 23:00.50 | xbmodder_newlapp | trying to convince a person that cat fur in a VERY hot computer = bad |
| 23:00.58 | harleypig | saran wrap around the paws makes for some hilarious moments as well. |
| 23:06.18 | xbmodder_newlapp | ... |
| 23:08.07 | xbmodder_newlapp | nick125_lappy, |
| 23:09.46 | vontrapp | *y4wn* time to shower, get ready for the day! |
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