| 00:12.00 | *** join/#utah flyboy^ (n=flyboy@xen.ryansimpkins.com) |
| 00:12.12 | flyboy^ | Does anyone here live in Lehi? |
| 00:20.14 | flyboy^ | Isn't there someone in here that works for a broadband ISP? |
| 00:21.03 | elg | tensai does |
| 00:21.35 | flyboy^ | Which one does he work for? |
| 00:21.39 | elg | one in idaho |
| 00:21.45 | flyboy^ | Ahh. |
| 00:22.00 | flyboy^ | I'm joining the masses in search of good broadband for Lehi. |
| 00:22.12 | flyboy^ | I'm hearing the best is probably Comcast. |
| 00:22.19 | elg | wow, another wesnoth release. they're on fire |
| 00:22.29 | elg | flyboy^: you want to talk to Jayce^ |
| 00:23.00 | flyboy^ | Is he in Lehi? |
| 00:23.33 | elg | over on chicken mountain |
| 00:23.35 | elg | or something |
| 00:23.44 | elg | but yeah, basically lehi |
| 00:23.57 | flyboy^ | Eagle mountain == chicken mountain? |
| 00:24.03 | elg | yeah, that's the one |
| 00:24.08 | flyboy^ | lol |
| 00:24.09 | elg | -lart Jayce^ |
| 00:24.21 | elg | well, sounds like he's no help, he doesn't even have internet now |
| 00:24.31 | flyboy^ | Come live in BEAUTIFUL chicken mountain! |
| 00:24.53 | flyboy^ | Cluck with the chickens instead of soar with the eagles I guess. |
| 00:25.07 | elg | I bet eagle tastes like chicken |
| 00:25.21 | elg | all my wesnoth buddies ditched. anyone up? |
| 00:27.40 | flyboy^ | Is wesnoth pretty fun then? |
| 00:30.06 | elg | yeah |
| 00:31.45 | flyboy^ | I am doing the tutorial now |
| 00:32.30 | elg | what version do you have? |
| 00:32.56 | flyboy^ | Whatever is in FC5 |
| 00:34.04 | flyboy^ | Do I have to dowload the source and recompile to get the newer version? |
| 00:34.31 | elg | not sure with fc, but you can probably find an rpm |
| 00:34.43 | elg | 1.1.7 is what you'll need to play with me. it was released yesterday |
| 00:34.59 | flyboy^ | How long does a game usually take? |
| 00:35.02 | elg | it's in debian unstable, so if it's not in $FAV_DISTRO you can feel free to be ashamed |
| 00:35.14 | goozbach | well I think I've decided |
| 00:35.21 | goozbach | wordpress it is |
| 00:35.31 | goozbach | mostly becaust it's got an anti-IE plugin |
| 00:35.50 | elg | it depends on lots of things, but usually like 40-80 minutes |
| 00:36.03 | goozbach | which throws up a different post when an IE connnection shows up |
| 00:36.04 | elg | goozbach: does it reboot people's computer if they're using IE? |
| 00:36.08 | flyboy^ | elg: FC5 has 1.0.2 |
| 00:36.15 | elg | that's the stable version |
| 00:36.23 | elg | lots of improvements in the dev line |
| 00:36.28 | flyboy^ | I'll play around with it some more after dinner. |
| 00:36.44 | elg | coming up on 2.0 release, it's basically beta now |
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| 00:48.45 | goozbach | elg: I could embed an activeX control in the IE-only page which would |
| 00:48.50 | goozbach | that could get nasty though |
| 00:49.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Has anyone else got a multitude of calls today saying "Vote for Canidate X!" (typically Chris Cannon)? |
| 00:50.04 | elg | he doesn't want my vote |
| 00:50.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I recieved three calls today, all for him |
| 00:50.56 | ScytheBlade1 | One of which, was actually George W. Bush! No kidding! |
| 00:51.13 | ScytheBlade1 | He started out, "Hello, this is George W. Bush, and I'd like to urge you to vote for Chris Cannon this Tuesday." |
| 00:51.20 | elg | but a couple weeks back when we were at my inlaws, we got at least 2 |
| 00:51.20 | flyboy^ | hehe, sweet. |
| 00:51.32 | ScytheBlade1 | The sad thing is |
| 00:51.39 | ScytheBlade1 | It's probably things like that, which win elections |
| 00:52.05 | elg | was it a recording? |
| 00:52.14 | roving_prole | or loses elections, as the case *should* be |
| 00:52.15 | elg | or did you get to ask him what he was having for dinner? |
| 00:52.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:52.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Of course it was a recording |
| 00:52.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably the best suggestion I've got today concering what I *should* have said |
| 00:52.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Was: "Hi, why don't you stop spying on America?" |
| 00:53.47 | roving_prole | right, stay out of my phone, and stay out of my internet communication |
| 00:53.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Indee |
| 00:53.58 | ScytheBlade1 | s/Indee/Indeed/ |
| 00:54.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Another friend said that if he ever ran for canidacy for anything |
| 00:54.25 | ScytheBlade1 | He'd start a calling bot *for his opponent* |
| 00:55.10 | elg | hi, my name is festival and I want to urge you to vote for Sparn Conleek |
| 00:55.13 | roving_prole | ha. and make it very annoying. and have it call right when American Idol is about to end or something- middle of dinner maybe |
| 00:55.15 | flyboy^ | "Hi. This is a recording. I am making this recording which will call you 12 times an hour. Vote for me if you like this kind of service!" |
| 00:55.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Seriously |
| 00:56.54 | flyboy^ | If you wanna be elected, you'll need to be wealthy. That is kind of the first requriment. |
| 00:57.05 | flyboy^ | I wonder if it has always been that way, and if it willl always be so. |
| 00:57.08 | roving_prole | its the rich running a popularity and power contest against someone else who's rich. And they wonder why people are too disenfranchised to vote |
| 00:57.45 | elg | flyboy^: pretty much, yeah |
| 00:57.46 | flyboy^ | I'm not sure of any "common" person who has been elected to the Senete recently. Maybe someone knows of a case. |
| 00:57.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I doubt it |
| 00:58.00 | elg | even in colonial times the leaders were the guys with enough money to focus on something other than daily bread |
| 00:58.33 | ScytheBlade1 | But really, those call-bots agitate me. |
| 00:58.33 | flyboy^ | What - even the founding fathers were all pretty wealthy. |
| 00:58.33 | ScytheBlade1 | All three of them were thirty seconds EXACTLY |
| 00:58.47 | flyboy^ | Ben Franklin used his political power to get government printing contracts for his business. |
| 00:58.58 | flyboy^ | But back then he didn't have to lie about it. |
| 00:59.01 | ScytheBlade1 | One was from a long distance number, another was local |
| 00:59.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And then another was "Restricted Caller" |
| 00:59.09 | roving_prole | are you registered Republican? I haven't recieved a single call, but that may be because I only have a cell |
| 00:59.18 | elg | that one must have been GW |
| 00:59.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Me? No |
| 00:59.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I checked "Unaffiliated" |
| 00:59.41 | flyboy^ | Ya gotta check like "Marajuana Party" if you wanna not get called. ;) |
| 00:59.45 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:59.47 | roving_prole | hmm, there goes that theory |
| 00:59.53 | ScytheBlade1 | That's kinda tempting |
| 01:00.10 | elg | well you didn't check dem, so they probably figure you'r worth a try |
| 01:00.11 | roving_prole | I figured they were like vampires, where once you invite them in, they won't leave you alone |
| 01:00.14 | ScytheBlade1 | elg, actually you're right, that one *was* GW |
| 01:00.31 | elg | GW-BASIC |
| 01:00.39 | ScytheBlade1 | "Restricted Caller" = Bush |
| 01:01.15 | flyboy^ | I think everyone in america should just not pay any taxes. Including corperations. |
| 01:01.29 | ScytheBlade1 | 310-949-4930 was the out of state one |
| 01:01.29 | flyboy^ | I think it would take about 6 months for the goverment to no longer exist. |
| 01:01.45 | elg | microsoft would take over |
| 01:01.47 | ScytheBlade1 | If that |
| 01:01.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ MS |
| 01:01.50 | flyboy^ | Then we can have a dictatorship take over instead. |
| 01:01.51 | elg | or exxon-mobil or something |
| 01:01.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Thing is, MS probably could |
| 01:02.08 | ScytheBlade1 | "Our CEO = King, or ALL OF YOUR COMPUTERS DIE" |
| 01:02.09 | elg | or that rich guy with the bad blonde hair |
| 01:02.12 | elg | "You're fired!" |
| 01:02.15 | flyboy^ | Bill Gates as dictator. |
| 01:02.33 | xbmodder_newlapp | ScytheBlade1, I get alotta 310-NXX-XXXX calls to. |
| 01:02.36 | flyboy^ | D. Trump as co-dictator? |
| 01:02.41 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 01:02.49 | xbmodder_newlapp | Steve balmmer |
| 01:02.54 | roving_prole | hell, Bill Gates would manage the country better than our current executives |
| 01:03.02 | xbmodder_newlapp | as dictator |
| 01:03.12 | flyboy^ | "This is gonna be HUGE connan! We are gonna build the best nation in the world! A Trumptastic nation!" - D. Trump, Co-Dictator, USA |
| 01:03.24 | xbmodder_newlapp | roving_prole, I wonder if either of the steves were in power |
| 01:04.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, call bots suck. |
| 01:04.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Either way, I'm off to eat dinner. |
| 01:04.17 | roving_prole | I'd take Steve Jobs over Balmer anyday |
| 01:04.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I really need to record those calls... |
| 01:04.35 | roving_prole | they'd both probably freak out on any country that looked at us wrong though |
| 01:04.35 | ScytheBlade1 | afk |
| 01:04.38 | flyboy^ | "All of our tanks will be fitted with the finest italian leather chairs. And we will pave the roads in DC with gold leaf! It's gonna be HUGE!" - Bill Gates, Dictator. |
| 01:05.36 | flyboy^ | Jobs would make a law that there only be one bathroom per town, so that ppl could line up and "talk" about civic ideas. |
| 01:06.14 | flyboy^ | I think we should ask that North Korean guy to come be our dictator. |
| 01:06.24 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 01:06.42 | flyboy^ | He'd kidnap a bunch of foreign women to come 'entertain' the citizens. |
| 01:07.12 | roving_prole | ha. I'm in. Who do we need to talk to to get him over here? |
| 01:07.22 | roving_prole | and will they be Swedish? |
| 01:07.26 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 01:08.10 | flyboy^ | I'm thinking with him on board we can kill off all the low-income folks out there without too much complaint. |
| 01:08.21 | flyboy^ | Just cut 'em right out of the pie. |
| 01:08.53 | flyboy^ | And you can bet your bottom dollar that ain't no terrorist gonna mess with us as the N.K. guy on our side! |
| 01:09.06 | roving_prole | yeah! it should be a crime to be poor! |
| 01:09.23 | flyboy^ | Al-Quaida will actually be SCARED with him as our leader. |
| 01:09.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not sure what's worse |
| 01:09.50 | ScytheBlade1 | A competent dictator, or an incompetent president ;) |
| 01:10.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Both are pretty scary |
| 01:10.02 | ScytheBlade1 | (Kidding) |
| 01:10.08 | ScytheBlade1 | (But I don't really care either way) |
| 01:10.15 | flyboy^ | You can't beat a good dictator. You just can't. |
| 01:10.26 | flyboy^ | Look at Cuba. |
| 01:10.28 | flyboy^ | Castro for President! |
| 01:10.55 | flyboy^ | Everyone who votes for him gets a free cigar. |
| 01:11.18 | flyboy^ | And a man with a gun will be there to be sure you SMOKE IT! |
| 01:11.47 | flyboy^ | Um, are all of you Cubans? |
| 01:14.17 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 01:14.21 | flyboy^ | Anyone have an opinion on this Israel situation? |
| 01:15.01 | flyboy^ | I wonder what they had to do to get Egypt to box the palistinians in. |
| 01:47.46 | macnewbold | is there anyone in here who is in school this summer and interested in beta-testing a student-targeted project I'm working on? |
| 01:48.13 | Tene | macnewbold: what is it? |
| 01:49.24 | macnewbold | a tool for students in which you enter your homework/reading/studying tasks and it generates a schedule for you which gets all your work done on time. It will have a free version, and a premium version that goes for $5/month. |
| 01:49.42 | macnewbold | www.gradefix.com will be the site, but right now there's just a teaser there |
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| 01:50.28 | Tene | I don't think that would help much for my class. |
| 01:50.33 | Tene | Sounds nice, though. |
| 01:50.39 | Tene | What's the difference between the versions? |
| 01:51.17 | macnewbold | free version is limited by the number of tasks it will schedule for you at one time |
| 01:51.29 | macnewbold | or maybe limits you to how far in advance it will let you schedule |
| 01:51.42 | macnewbold | it's still not totally firm, which is why we need the beta feedback |
| 01:51.54 | macnewbold | for research purposes, why wouldn't it help much for your class? |
| 01:52.46 | macnewbold | (admittedly, it does provide much more benefit when you've got a very busy schedule or not a lot of extra study time beyond what is required to get everything done. it helps most when the schedule is tight.) |
| 01:53.46 | Tene | Well, I dunno, maybe I could come up with some good uses for it. |
| 01:54.51 | macnewbold | if you're interested, let me know, and I can see about getting you an invitation. they're only opening up about 20 slots it sounds like. beta testers will get free service after our fall launch in exchange for their help. |
| 01:55.32 | macnewbold | you actually sound like you'd be a good person to have in the beta group, so we can figure out what we'd need to do to make it worthwhile for people in similar situations, and how to market to them |
| 01:56.11 | Tene | Well, it would help if I cared enough to do much of anything outside of class. |
| 01:56.24 | Tene | But I can get by fine with only showing up to class. |
| 01:57.38 | Tene | Medieval Combat, fwiw. The only "homework" would be practice/training. |
| 01:57.43 | macnewbold | aha :) |
| 01:58.14 | Tene | And for at least half of that, I'd need someone to train with. |
| 01:58.31 | macnewbold | yeah, it can work for that, but if that's the only thing on your schedule, with no other competition (school, work, or otherwise), then it wouldn't help much |
| 01:58.36 | Tene | It's difficult enough to grapple with yourself, much less counter your own grapples. ;) |
| 01:58.42 | macnewbold | sounds like a fun class :) |
| 01:59.04 | Tene | I also have work, but that's flexible and sometimes unpredictable. |
| 01:59.18 | macnewbold | so where are they teaching the class? BYU? UVSC? or somewhere else? |
| 01:59.29 | Tene | And if I did have someone to practice with, it would need to fit in with their schedule. |
| 01:59.32 | macnewbold | right |
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| 01:59.54 | Tene | It's taught by Granite Peaks at a local high school. |
| 02:00.07 | Tene | Wednesday and Thursday evenings. |
| 02:00.17 | Tene | Taylorsville, specifically. |
| 02:01.27 | macnewbold | ah, cool |
| 02:01.27 | macnewbold | what's the cost? how long is the class? |
| 02:01.34 | Tene | I actually have no idea what the registration cost is. I've just been showing up and nobody has asked for money. |
| 02:01.37 | Tene | >.> |
| 02:01.45 | Tene | 7:30 - 9:00 |
| 02:02.19 | Tene | Wednesday for the beginning class, Thursday for the intermediate/advanced, with intermediate/advanced students encouraged to attend the Beginning class. |
| 02:02.29 | macnewbold | very nice |
| 02:02.37 | macnewbold | hm |
| 02:02.44 | Tene | The next semester starts in about a month. |
| 02:03.13 | macnewbold | I wish I could fit that into my schedule somewhere... I've always had an interest in that kind of thing |
| 02:03.56 | Tene | grappling, dagger, and longsword. |
| 02:04.07 | Tene | You should use your schedule-arranging program to find a way to make it fit! |
| 02:07.46 | macnewbold | very fun |
| 02:07.53 | macnewbold | but my wife would seriously injure me |
| 02:08.00 | Tene | Oh? |
| 02:08.13 | macnewbold | I've had to commit all my "spare" time to building gradefix for quite a while now, |
| 02:08.35 | macnewbold | and she would hurt me badly if I intentionally added any other commitments to my schedule :) |
| 02:08.48 | Tene | Wouldn't getting thrown around and beat with sticks count as injury enough? |
| 02:09.52 | goozbach | -urls 20 |
| 02:09.52 | brac | [2006/06/27 16:43:24] <goozbach> http://www.fazed.org/video/?id=324 |
| 02:09.52 | brac | [2006/06/27 15:01:11] <ibot> http://sarien.sourceforge.net/ |
| 02:09.52 | brac | [2006/06/27 14:55:15] <^Migs^> http://www.infamous-adventures.com/index.php?page=kq3 |
| 02:09.52 | brac | [2006/06/27 14:36:06] <Jayce^> http://halls.lug-nut.com/jayce/2006/06/19/Peachy#comments |
| 02:09.55 | brac | [2006/06/27 14:08:13] <lars-ut> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16855182001 |
| 02:09.55 | brac | [2006/06/27 14:07:11] <lars-ut> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822152032 |
| 02:09.55 | brac | [2006/06/27 13:34:25] <lars-ut> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oorah) |
| 02:09.57 | brac | [2006/06/27 13:33:14] <elg> http://www.genpets.com/index.php |
| 02:09.59 | brac | [2006/06/27 11:32:36] <nick125_lappy> http://atarack.com/ponies/ |
| 02:10.01 | brac | [2006/06/27 11:32:29] <emcnabb> http://cuteoverload.com/ |
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| 02:23.53 | mheath | I'm glad I went to workout tonight. It took my mind off things. |
| 02:24.03 | mheath | We put Teddy to sleep at 5:00. I was in the room. |
| 02:31.27 | roving_prole | mheath - I take it that was your dog or cat? |
| 02:32.38 | mheath | ....yes |
| 02:33.21 | roving_prole | that's rough, isn't it? usually for the better, but hard nonetheless |
| 02:33.36 | mheath | Yep. |
| 02:33.45 | mheath | I get to go see Superman |
| 02:33.50 | mheath | leaving in like 45 minutes |
| 02:34.06 | mheath | See the world where everything turns out right in the world, and there is truth and justice! |
| 02:34.09 | mheath | Heh. |
| 02:34.14 | roving_prole | cool, hopefully that will help take your mind off it too |
| 02:35.06 | mheath | Still kinda sad. Usually, when I'm sitting in this chair, he'll come up and jump on my lap |
| 02:35.15 | mheath | we'll sit here for an hour or so, and I'll pet him |
| 02:35.20 | mheath | just keep each other company. |
| 02:35.25 | mheath | anyway |
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| 03:25.09 | Tene | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion-Eating_Poet_in_the_Stone_Den |
| 03:26.18 | beandog | Try to explain this. |
| 03:26.27 | beandog | no kidding. |
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| 03:55.02 | QBFreak | can anyone suggest a good linux RSS reader? |
| 03:58.38 | ScytheBlade1 | liferea of akregator |
| 03:58.58 | ScytheBlade1 | s/of/or |
| 03:59.00 | ScytheBlade1 | s/of/or/ |
| 03:59.03 | ScytheBlade1 | bah |
| 03:59.14 | QBFreak | heh |
| 03:59.25 | QBFreak | and here I thought it was awesomely named |
| 03:59.40 | QBFreak | foo of bar, sounds like a REAL oss app |
| 04:00.15 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:00.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I've used both |
| 04:00.38 | ScytheBlade1 | gnome or kde, respectively |
| 04:00.47 | QBFreak | liferea of akregator, the feedinator! |
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| 04:16.30 | elg | QBFreak: flock |
| 04:17.36 | atoponce | QBFreak: liferea |
| 04:19.39 | QBFreak | yum only finds liferea, I suppose I'll try it first :) |
| 04:23.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Neither is bad at all |
| 04:25.20 | maquis | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/06/ignoring_the_gr.html |
| 04:25.24 | atoponce | i use liferea and like it a lot |
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| 04:40.39 | findlay | some winderz b0x is seriously pelting the network here with broadcast packets |
| 04:41.11 | findlay | 1.1K of pings |
| 04:53.48 | xbmodder_newlapp | return the favor |
| 04:53.50 | xbmodder_newlapp | 11k of pings |
| 04:53.52 | findlay | heh |
| 05:09.03 | Uncle_Jesse | crap - maybe I won't make my blog unclejesse.org |
| 05:09.16 | Uncle_Jesse | I just discovered unclejesse.com is a porn site |
| 05:09.20 | findlay | heh |
| 05:09.39 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 05:09.53 | Uncle_Jesse | guess I'll stick with either jessestay.com or staynalive.com |
| 05:09.53 | findlay | some infamous town in Ohio took my desired domainname |
| 05:10.08 | Uncle_Jesse | I may use thefamo.us though |
| 05:11.21 | Uncle_Jesse | jessestay.com will fit better with searches - it's only a blog about my life anyway |
| 05:11.29 | Uncle_Jesse | oh well |
| 05:11.50 | findlay | what does .COM have to do with searching? |
| 05:12.21 | Uncle_Jesse | findlay: nothing - but people are more likely to search for my name when looking for my blog |
| 05:12.40 | Uncle_Jesse | search query .com gets you one more point towards higher results |
| 05:13.25 | Uncle_Jesse | it would have been fun though to show my SEO skills by trying to get the top results for the search, "Uncle Jesse" |
| 05:14.47 | findlay | (: |
| 05:15.13 | xbmodder_newlapp | that might not work |
| 05:15.53 | Uncle_Jesse | If I put relavent content on there it might |
| 05:16.24 | Uncle_Jesse | tough to compete with a porn site though |
| 05:16.40 | findlay | you'd have to play the theme song from that TV show from the early 90s |
| 05:16.48 | xbmodder_newlapp | full house |
| 05:16.59 | xbmodder_newlapp | ~Uncle_Jesse |
| 05:17.00 | ibot | it has been said that uncle_jesse is a #utah wannabe |
| 05:17.19 | Uncle_Jesse | heh - I was going to put that theme into the design somehow, with a focus on the dukes of hazzard though |
| 05:17.36 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm even married to Rebecca though :-) |
| 05:18.41 | Tene | any asterisk gurus up? |
| 05:19.03 | xbmodder_newlapp | Tene, me != guru, but I know how to use asterisk, just ask |
| 05:19.25 | findlay | I guess I know a few things |
| 05:19.45 | Tene | I'm trying to connect to an asterisk box from behind a nat. |
| 05:19.54 | findlay | heh |
| 05:19.59 | xbmodder_newlapp | setup a DMZ |
| 05:20.03 | xbmodder_newlapp | or setup port forwarding? |
| 05:20.06 | findlay | or SER |
| 05:20.08 | Tene | The box also happens to be behind a nat, but I think I've forwarded all relevant ports to it. |
| 05:20.25 | Tene | I can connect just fine over sip, but I can't get audio back. |
| 05:21.16 | findlay | look at SER |
| 05:21.42 | xbmodder_newlapp | are both boxes NATed, or just one side? |
| 05:21.43 | Tene | Thanks. |
| 05:22.15 | findlay | SER is panacaea for all your SIP NAT troubles |
| 05:25.33 | findlay | OpenSER, of course |
| 05:25.36 | xbmodder_newlapp | why do you have to connect to a NATed box? |
| 05:26.11 | Tene | Because we currently have a *really* lame ISP at our office. |
| 05:26.12 | xbmodder_newlapp | findlay, sorry if I don't understand, but SER has to be run on 3rd box, corect? |
| 05:26.40 | xbmodder_newlapp | Tene, I have two reccomendations: |
| 05:26.43 | findlay | not necessarily |
| 05:26.53 | xbmodder_newlapp | instead of punching holes in the NAT do this: |
| 05:27.27 | xbmodder_newlapp | 1) Get a VPN that gives you a public IP 2) Get a VPS that you can install asterisk on, and then go straight between the two boxes |
| 05:27.54 | Tene | xbm: SER will make this work just fine. |
| 05:27.56 | xbmodder_newlapp | its a business, so every dollar counts |
| 05:28.09 | xbmodder_newlapp | err, every phone call |
| 05:33.10 | findlay | Tene: you're not necessarily replacing asterisk with ser, but letting ser handle all the nat strangeness |
| 05:33.18 | Tene | Yeah. |
| 05:34.06 | Tene | The openser .src.rpm breaks on x86_64 |
| 05:34.06 | findlay | Tene: did you go to the UTAUG meeting on SER? |
| 05:34.24 | Tene | No, I missed it. I have the recording on my workstation at my office, though. |
| 05:34.34 | Tene | I was looking at this stuff the other day but forgot about it. |
| 05:34.54 | findlay | where did you get the ser rpm from? |
| 05:35.08 | Tene | http://openser.org/pub/openser/latest/packages/rhel-3.0/ |
| 05:35.14 | findlay | hm |
| 05:36.41 | findlay | Tene: ask elg. He gave the presentation |
| 05:39.57 | Tene | I'm just curious whose idea it was to encode all the presentation recordings as wmv. |
| 05:40.10 | Tene | Thanks for the pointer, findlay. |
| 05:48.21 | findlay | that means one more layer of abstraction between me and #utah, as if I wasn't abstract enough |
| 05:52.29 | findlay | excellent! |
| 05:52.49 | findlay | linux-2.6.17 has finally fixed my cdda seek problem |
| 05:53.53 | findlay | I'd like to thank all the little people, and xbmodder_newlapp for getting me to this point |
| 06:01.03 | xbmodder_newlapp | :-/ |
| 06:01.27 | nick125 | xbmodder_newlapp did something right?! |
| 06:01.39 | xbmodder_newlapp | Can I hit you? |
| 06:01.44 | nick125 | no |
| 06:02.18 | findlay | xbmodder_newlapp saved me from making a sacrifice on the LKML |
| 06:02.25 | nick125 | LOL |
| 06:04.04 | findlay | now I get to listen to Haydn |
| 06:06.38 | xbmodder_newlapp | nick125, wait for the phone to ring |
| 06:08.30 | findlay | it will be Symphonie nr. 103 B-dur Hob.I:102 »Mit dem Paukenwirbel« |
| 06:09.05 | findlay | did you know Haydn was a timpanist? |
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| 07:27.30 | QBFreak | heh! I tried to click on my monitor's power button |
| 07:28.19 | QBFreak | I suppose to do that I need more X-10 stuffs |
| 07:33.38 | xbmodder_newlapp | huh? |
| 07:33.41 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 07:33.51 | xbmodder_newlapp | you are trying to automate your house? |
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| 11:30.16 | findlay | hello |
| 11:30.29 | findlay | ibot: hello |
| 11:30.29 | ibot | hey, findlay |
| 11:51.48 | findlay | ~icmp |
| 11:51.49 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, icmp is Internet Control Message Protocol. or DO NOT BLOCK ALL ICMP or someone will thwack you and you will have deserved it., or use --state RELATED in iptables to selectively block and still have legal icmps pass |
| 11:52.30 | findlay | ibot: but what port does it use? |
| 12:19.41 | roving_prole | ICMP doesn't use a port, per se, it's an extension to TCP/IP |
| 12:20.29 | findlay | but how do I unblock ICMP packets? |
| 12:21.15 | roving_prole | depends on the router |
| 12:21.33 | findlay | what about iptables? |
| 12:21.41 | roving_prole | in home routers its usually just an option somewhere.... |
| 12:21.51 | roving_prole | ah, not sure about that |
| 12:24.46 | roving_prole | I really need to learn iptables |
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| 12:26.18 | roving_prole | it looks like it would be kind of standard though, like |
| 12:26.20 | roving_prole | iptables -A INPUT -s 0/0 -i eth0 -d 192.168.1.1 -p TCP -j ACCEPT |
| 12:26.37 | roving_prole | iptables -A INPUT -s 0/0 -i eth0 -d 192.168.1.1 -p ICMP -j ACCEPT |
| 12:27.26 | roving_prole | ah, here it is: iptables -A OUTPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j ACCEPT |
| 12:27.26 | roving_prole | iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-reply -j ACCEPT |
| 12:34.02 | findlay | the -p icmp was what I was looking for, thanks |
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| 12:40.31 | graphyx | anyone play with sivus? |
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| 14:17.18 | goozbach | blargfooblarg |
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| 14:28.03 | elg | -lart goozbach |
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| 14:39.11 | elg | -lart goozbach |
| 14:49.29 | goozbach | eek |
| 14:50.13 | goozbach | boom |
| 14:50.25 | goozbach | printer's done! |
| 14:50.25 | tensai | ~smack goozbach |
| 14:50.32 | ibot | ACTION smacks goozbach upside the head. |
| 14:50.32 | goozbach | you already did |
| 14:50.50 | goozbach | you took away my level 104 shield |
| 14:50.52 | tensai | just rubbing it in |
| 14:50.59 | tensai | I did? |
| 14:51.03 | goozbach | last time we met |
| 14:51.14 | goozbach | this is now 3-1 |
| 14:51.18 | tensai | ah |
| 14:51.23 | goozbach | you've beat me three times now |
| 14:51.32 | goozbach | I've only beat you once |
| 14:53.44 | goozbach | I'm still a level ahead of you |
| 14:53.52 | goozbach | ~rasberry tensai |
| 14:54.25 | tensai | true. you had irssi and screen while I was logging out every day. |
| 14:56.04 | tensai | elg: I've discovered your true identity. <hans@fuifbeest.com> |
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| 14:56.52 | goozbach | ok so it wasn't the shield |
| 14:57.00 | goozbach | and it wasn't 104 |
| 14:57.10 | goozbach | [06/18/06 02:06:13] tensai [946/966] has challenged goozbach [645/850] in combat and won! 1 day, 09:28:07 is removed from tensai's clock. |
| 14:57.14 | goozbach | [06/18/06 02:06:13] In the fierce battle, goozbach dropped his level 107 amulet! tensai picks it up, tossing his old level 52 amulet to goozbach. |
| 14:58.10 | goozbach | your boots rock |
| 14:58.15 | goozbach | level 276 |
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| 15:01.51 | goozbach | but I have the cluehammer of doom!!! |
| 15:02.16 | Jayce^ | goozbach, sounds almost like you're playing 'munchkin' then |
| 15:02.18 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 15:03.52 | goozbach | 'munchkin'? |
| 15:04.03 | goozbach | ~munchkin |
| 15:04.04 | ibot | it has been said that munchkin is a small person |
| 15:04.36 | goozbach | ahh the SJ game |
| 15:04.42 | Jayce^ | yes |
| 15:04.43 | goozbach | I knew I'd heard of that before |
| 15:04.44 | Jayce^ | classic |
| 15:04.45 | tensai | ~sj |
| 15:04.46 | ibot | i guess sj is short for superjuan |
| 15:05.07 | goozbach | sjgames.com |
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| 15:08.09 | goozbach | ibot: no, sj is Steve Jackson <http://www.sjgames.com/> |
| 15:08.11 | ibot | okay, goozbach |
| 15:08.15 | goozbach | ~sj |
| 15:08.17 | ibot | from memory, sj is Steve Jackson <http://www.sjgames.com/> |
| 15:10.59 | tensai | sounds like cheapass games |
| 15:11.12 | Jayce^ | kinda.. in some ways |
| 15:11.20 | Jayce^ | munchkin is amazingly good though |
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| 15:12.35 | goozbach | tensai: they're good games |
| 15:12.48 | goozbach | I like illumiopoly |
| 15:13.54 | Jayce^ | never tried that one |
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| 15:15.18 | hans | -lart vontrapp |
| 15:16.42 | goozbach | Jayce^: it's a hybrid |
| 15:17.02 | goozbach | take the illumiati game and combine it with Monoply |
| 15:24.33 | tensai | awesome. an earwig on my desk. |
| 15:26.39 | levi | That's awesome? |
| 15:31.36 | redbeard1 | oh man. illuminopoly. that sounds fun! |
| 16:01.19 | emcnabb | My laptop just crashed, so I looked in the logs to see what happened: kernel: Critical temperature reached (100 C), shutting down. |
| 16:01.37 | Kuyaedz | eek |
| 16:02.12 | Kuyaedz | good things its smart enough to see that & shutdown |
| 16:02.25 | emcnabb | oh yeah |
| 16:02.44 | levi | Ow. |
| 16:03.29 | Kuyaedz | I fried an AMD 1400 because it wasn't smart enough to shut off |
| 16:05.12 | emcnabb | I was running a Xen kernel, and I believe there isn't ACPI support yet in Xen (I could be wrong) |
| 16:05.17 | emcnabb | that may have caused the problem |
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| 16:05.25 | harleypig | I WANT! http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/833d/?cpg=33H |
| 16:05.40 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: Micro R/C Helicopter] |
| 16:06.55 | Kuyaedz | sweet |
| 16:07.49 | Kuyaedz | out of stock :( |
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| 16:08.37 | sjansen | You know you've been depending on Perl too much when... you use "perl -e 'print foo'" instead of the echo command. |
| 16:11.39 | hans | emcnabb: what you been doing to get your laptop so hot? |
| 16:14.09 | sjansen | If ever there was a question that sounded like the introduction to an obscene geek joke... |
| 16:16.22 | hans | obscene like, running windows? :) |
| 16:16.32 | hans | bye chanserv |
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| 16:32.42 | Kuyaedz | anyone else notice that the utah Open Source planet is full of feeds/writers that have nothing to do with open source? |
| 16:32.54 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 16:33.37 | Jayce^ | hey, I do at times |
| 16:34.32 | Kuyaedz | feel like its just turned into a utah random bloggers planet. |
| 16:35.36 | spr | I'm usually open source related. |
| 16:35.45 | Jayce^ | spr, you just dont' post much :) |
| 16:40.38 | spr | That's because I'm not blogging about school work. |
| 16:41.12 | spr | Once I get my website redone, and I'll have some oggify updates soon too. |
| 16:41.17 | spr | those will get blogged |
| 16:41.29 | Jayce^ | gotta have it ready for oscon :) |
| 16:41.38 | spr | And there is always my torid love affair with Python. |
| 16:41.45 | Jayce^ | ewww |
| 16:41.48 | Jayce^ | please don't tell :) |
| 16:41.52 | spr | :) |
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| 16:45.45 | levi | I think the non-Open Source posts are usually more interesting. |
| 16:45.51 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm usually open source, or technology news related at least |
| 16:46.10 | emcnabb | elg: I wasn't doing anything really, just checking mail |
| 16:46.30 | emcnabb | my CPU runs at about 15 C higher on average when running the Xen kernel |
| 16:46.50 | levi | One of the reasons I've never added my blogs to the planet is that I rarely talk about open source. |
| 16:47.56 | Uncle_Jesse | I always saw it as a bunch of Utah OSS geeks all being brought together to share their inner thoughts and feelings |
| 16:48.06 | Uncle_Jesse | the bloggers are all OSS related |
| 16:48.40 | sjansen | I don't mind the non-OSS posts, but I'm getting tired of digging through posts by people of don't know or respect (or people I do know and don't respect). |
| 16:49.11 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - I think a requirement should be they have to hang out in #utah :-) |
| 16:49.28 | Uncle_Jesse | and we all have to know and approve them |
| 16:49.39 | emcnabb | sjansen just wants a little R-E-S-P-E-C-T |
| 16:49.54 | sjansen | emcnabb: IIRC, Xen doesn't yet have support for CPU scaling. |
| 16:49.55 | Kuyaedz | I created a seperate blog for my OSS related posts. For the personal stuff I have a personal blog. |
| 16:50.09 | emcnabb | sjansen: could be |
| 16:50.55 | sjansen | Uncle_Jesse: Time to hack them and steal their DNS record. |
| 16:51.08 | Kuyaedz | Uncle_Jesse: I ran a photography/desktop wallpaper site for a long time & after I let the domain expire it was turned into a porn-portal. Lame. |
| 16:51.46 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - there needs to be more process in reserving domains for porn purposes |
| 16:52.04 | sjansen | Uncle_Jesse: After you hijack their DNS, you should redirect the site to cute pictures of baby animals for a few months. You know, just to clean it up a bit. |
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| 16:55.36 | sjansen | http://icommit.eu/ <-- When PHP addslashes() runs amok. |
| 16:55.40 | brac | [Getting Things Done] |
| 16:56.59 | Tene | eww |
| 16:58.23 | emcnabb | Uncle_Jesse: we know that's your site |
| 16:58.54 | Uncle_Jesse | emcnabb: you had to look, didn't you? ;-) |
| 17:00.00 | emcnabb | actually I didn't, and of all times to check (if I really wanted to), this would not be the time |
| 17:00.06 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 17:00.31 | Uncle_Jesse | actually, that site centers around a man way older than I am (I saw it accidentally) |
| 17:01.52 | elg | windley discovers captchas |
| 17:05.02 | Uncle_Jesse | does he still work for SCO? |
| 17:05.29 | sjansen | I don't know. |
| 17:05.41 | elg | probably? |
| 17:06.03 | elg | maybe he got the beemer and is taking a month vacation driving it around the country |
| 17:06.22 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - with all the money SCO is making lately |
| 17:06.33 | nick125 | yeah.. |
| 17:06.47 | sjansen | s/making/bleeding/ |
| 17:06.59 | nick125 | Uncle_Jesse: (in all reality, I hope that is sarcasm) |
| 17:07.01 | Uncle_Jesse | we should do another SCO protest just for the heck of it - I missed the last one |
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| 17:07.34 | Uncle_Jesse | We should start FUD about the lack of FUD lately |
| 17:07.47 | Kuyaedz | protest sounds fun |
| 17:08.11 | Kuyaedz | I mentioned on /. that I lived close to the SCO office & a pool got to $100 to take a dump on their entry. |
| 17:08.24 | Kuyaedz | ...but they wanted video of Darl steppin' in it, and I figured that'd be tough |
| 17:08.38 | Uncle_Jesse | lol |
| 17:11.29 | mheath[laptop] | I really should work on cleaning up my house a bit. Hmmmm. |
| 17:17.51 | sjansen | Add a few zeros (left of the decimal place) and Darl might be willing to help. |
| 17:19.05 | Kuyaedz | if that guy hadn't been on M$ teet for the last 10yrs they would have been bankrupt years ago. |
| 17:19.29 | sjansen | hardly 10 |
| 17:19.42 | sjansen | Wait, you mean Darl not SCO... nevermind. |
| 17:32.52 | lars-ut | Staples has a good deal on DVD-R media locally right now. |
| 17:32.54 | lars-ut | Memorex 50 Pack Spindle 16x 4.7GB DVD-R, $14.98 (31.8 cents per DVD after tax) http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?prodCatType=1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&productId=89852 |
| 17:37.13 | sjansen | Does dpkg have no equivalent to rpm -V? |
| 17:37.35 | lars-ut | DVD media quality info post: http://softwarefor.org/pipermail/dev/2005-December/000113.html |
| 17:37.41 | Kuyaedz | sjansen: what does -V do in rpm? |
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| 17:41.04 | lars-ut | sjansen: dpkg -I |
| 17:42.15 | sjansen | When you install an rpm, the rpm databse keeps an md5sum of all of the files installed by the RPM. |
| 17:43.09 | sjansen | rpm -V uses the md5sums to detect if the files has been changed. It's not a security tool, but it's a useful troubleshooting tool. |
| 17:43.35 | sjansen | (The rpm database also keeps track of things like overship, permissions, timestamps, etc.) |
| 17:43.41 | sjansen | lars-ut: thanks |
| 17:43.56 | herlo | sjansen: what's overship? |
| 17:44.09 | sjansen | ~make herlo shutup |
| 17:44.11 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `herlo shutup'. Stop. |
| 17:44.24 | herlo | sjansen: awww, too bad |
| 17:44.25 | sjansen | ~target herlo |
| 17:44.33 | herlo | ~pimpslap sjansen |
| 17:44.35 | ibot | herlo pimpslaps sjansen. ouch! |
| 17:44.36 | sjansen | ~funkybomb herlo |
| 17:44.37 | ibot | ACTION blows away herlo in a psychedelic flash |
| 17:44.43 | herlo | ~nice sjansen |
| 17:44.45 | ibot | ACTION lowers sjansen's priority |
| 17:45.20 | herlo | sjansen: I like the ~funkybomb, havent seen that one before |
| 17:45.43 | Tene | ~renice sjansen |
| 17:45.45 | ibot | ACTION lowers sjansen's priority again |
| 17:46.23 | sjansen | ~travolta herlo |
| 17:46.27 | ibot | ACTION replaces herlo with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 17:47.20 | mheath[laptop] | Sigh. I suppose I'll have to go report my debit card as stolen and get a new one. |
| 17:47.31 | goozbach | ~strangelove herlo |
| 17:47.33 | ibot | ACTION destroys half the channel just to get rid of herlo |
| 17:47.37 | herlo | wow, I am superior firepower now |
| 17:47.45 | mheath[laptop] | Thats OK, though. The back of it was worn off a whole bunch - the entire thing was actually void, if anyone cared. |
| 17:48.00 | herlo | ~kill mheath for interrupting |
| 17:48.02 | ibot | ACTION shoots a proton gun at mheath for interrupting |
| 17:48.02 | mheath[laptop] | heh, I left it in my pocket (outside the wallet) for too long. The sign-your-name-here strip wore off |
| 17:48.12 | mheath[laptop] | And it says "VOID VOID VOID" underneath it |
| 17:48.17 | goozbach | ~pump mheath[laptop] |
| 17:48.27 | goozbach | ~inflate herlo |
| 17:48.31 | mheath[laptop] | I find it both funny and sad that people accept a debit/credit card that says VOID VOID VOID VOID all over the back. |
| 17:48.35 | herlo | hey, all I did was ask what overship meant |
| 17:48.44 | goozbach | herlo: it's like overstanding |
| 17:48.55 | goozbach | you didn't overstand his sentance? |
| 17:49.02 | herlo | ~bash goozbach |
| 17:49.03 | ibot | ACTION beats goozbach with ksh |
| 17:49.16 | herlo | goozbach, I did, I did, I saw a puddy tat!! |
| 17:50.53 | goozbach | ~bind herlo |
| 17:50.55 | ibot | ACTION wraps herlo up with 100 rolls of duct tape |
| 17:51.03 | goozbach | ~flog herlo |
| 17:51.04 | ibot | ACTION hog-ties herlo and starts the heavy punishment with a cat-o-nine-tails. |
| 17:52.39 | mheath[laptop] | I'm just concerned that every securty measure built into credit/debit cards seems to be 100% worthless |
| 17:53.32 | Kuyaedz | pretty much |
| 17:54.46 | goozbach | wow TWO HOG events in like 5 minutes |
| 17:54.59 | goozbach | ok ten mins |
| 17:55.19 | goozbach | ~HOG is just something you wouldn't understand $who |
| 17:55.21 | ibot | ...but hog is already something else... |
| 17:55.27 | goozbach | ~hog |
| 17:55.30 | ibot | methinks hog is you have to know 2 know like scratch sam loza and edd |
| 17:55.47 | goozbach | thatt works |
| 18:07.54 | lars-ut | Is it always the same time in Denver, Colorado and SLC? |
| 18:08.05 | goozbach | lars-ut: only when it isn't |
| 18:08.11 | lars-ut | crap. |
| 18:08.17 | lars-ut | There goes that idea. |
| 18:08.34 | goozbach | lars-ut: yes, it is |
| 18:08.42 | goozbach | or should be |
| 18:08.54 | goozbach | denver is in the same time zone as SLC |
| 18:08.55 | Tene | It can be if you bribe the chronomancer's guild. |
| 18:09.15 | lars-ut | whew. goozbach, Tene: how do you manipulate the space-time continuum so easily? |
| 18:09.15 | goozbach | or a time lord *shifty eyes* |
| 18:09.20 | lars-ut | lol |
| 18:09.23 | lars-ut | still lol |
| 18:09.34 | lars-ut | and more lol |
| 18:09.38 | goozbach | lars-ut: I use a tardis |
| 18:09.50 | lars-ut | ~dalek goozbach |
| 18:09.55 | lars-ut | dang. |
| 18:10.34 | elg | ~dalek $who is <reply> EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE |
| 18:10.36 | ibot | elg: okay |
| 18:10.56 | lars-ut | ~dalek goozbach |
| 18:10.57 | ibot | EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE |
| 18:11.58 | goozbach | ~doctor lars-ut |
| 18:12.03 | goozbach | drat |
| 18:12.07 | Tene | ~suppository goozbach |
| 18:12.09 | elg | fantastic! |
| 18:12.57 | lars-ut | "time zone" in portuguese? |
| 18:13.49 | flyboy^ | tima zona, sorry - that's Italian. Teme zoonnie. There ya go. |
| 18:14.21 | lars-ut | zona de tempo? |
| 18:14.34 | lars-ut | babelfish... |
| 18:15.02 | flyboy^ | That's not as fun as making up your own translations. |
| 18:16.00 | lars-ut | veritas est |
| 18:16.32 | lars-ut | Zonus Tempus |
| 18:17.37 | lars-ut | diferença horária (time difference) |
| 18:17.43 | lars-ut | that'll work |
| 18:17.56 | lars-ut | Licetne mihi ad latrinam ire? |
| 18:18.37 | emcnabb | sweet; Jeff Garzik is speaking downstairs in 10 minutes about new kernel features |
| 18:20.19 | flyboy^ | emcnabb: Down stairs where? |
| 18:21.01 | emcnabb | at Red Hat's HQ |
| 18:21.06 | flyboy^ | Ahh. |
| 18:23.06 | elg | emcnabb: cool, tell us some juicy stuff when you get back |
| 18:27.18 | tensai | sjansen: what\'s wrong with \"addslashes()\"? |
| 18:27.30 | tensai | seems perfectly cromulant to me |
| 18:27.51 | ScytheBlade1 | tensai, addslashes() isn't bulletproof |
| 18:27.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Far from it, in fact |
| 18:28.05 | mheath[laptop] | Man, google needs to come up with something like Yahoo Widgets. |
| 18:28.13 | mheath[laptop] | googles stuff seems to always play nicer with windows systems |
| 18:28.26 | mheath[laptop] | IE, uninstall is cleaner, doesn't try to change your homepage, etc. |
| 18:29.57 | lars-ut | NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW 3.04 is what I'm using now |
| 18:32.02 | lars-ut | http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/3520/ |
| 18:32.11 | lars-ut | brac! |
| 18:32.12 | brac | lars-ut: 'sup? |
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| 18:32.56 | lars-ut | NEC ND-3520AW hacked firmware - http://liggydee.cdfreaks.com/page/3520/ |
| 18:33.09 | lars-ut | brac sux |
| 18:42.42 | elg | -lart lars-ut |
| 18:45.27 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone see superman yet? |
| 18:47.18 | elg | up in the air |
| 18:49.27 | elg | -lart c++ |
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| 19:16.04 | ScytheBlade1 | So, I'm in need of a cable. |
| 19:16.13 | ScytheBlade1 | A DB25 to DB9 null modem cable. |
| 19:17.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Does anyone know where I can pick one of these up (locally)? |
| 19:22.30 | herlo | ScytheBlade1: Central Utah Electronics (Near Provo Cemetery) has all the parts for you to build such a cable |
| 19:22.46 | herlo | ScytheBlade1: They might even have one already built |
| 19:22.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I should have been more specific, in the Salt Lake Valley ;) |
| 19:23.35 | herlo | ScytheBlade1: Utah County isn't that far...plus we are people too :-D |
| 19:23.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, but it's gas money ;) |
| 19:23.59 | herlo | Gas money shash muney |
| 19:24.08 | herlo | Ride the bus |
| 19:24.32 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd cost me more. |
| 19:25.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Especially considering that it's maybe a $2 cable ;) |
| 19:30.50 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 19:30.57 | nick125_lappy | a $2 cable becomes a $20 cable |
| 19:32.29 | herlo | excuses are like ar^H^H... - nevermind |
| 19:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | afk work |
| 19:51.12 | flyboy^ | Has anyone said anything regarding Omniture today? |
| 19:51.28 | flyboy^ | Today was the IPO. |
| 19:53.03 | macnewbold | oooh |
| 19:53.56 | flyboy^ | http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=OMTR&t=1d&l=off&z=l&q=l&c= |
| 19:53.58 | brac | [Quotes for OMTR - Yahoo! Finance] |
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| 20:03.12 | lars-ut-away | l~quote omtr |
| 20:03.15 | lars-ut-away | \~quote omtr |
| 20:03.17 | lars-ut-away | ~quote omtr |
| 20:03.30 | Tene | ~quote tene |
| 20:03.36 | lars-ut-away | lol |
| 20:03.42 | Tene | ~quote lars |
| 20:03.46 | lars-ut-away | crap. |
| 20:03.58 | Tene | ~quote hans |
| 20:04.09 | lars-ut-away | stinkin' hans |
| 20:04.17 | Tene | ~quote migs |
| 20:04.23 | lars-ut-away | ~quote brac |
| 20:04.33 | lars-ut-away | ~quote levi |
| 20:04.45 | Tene | ~quote tyce |
| 20:04.54 | Tene | ~quote tewk |
| 20:04.54 | lars-ut-away | ~quote wps |
| 20:05.06 | Tene | ~quote spr |
| 20:05.17 | Tene | ~quote xbm |
| 20:05.27 | Tene | ~quote ryan |
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| 20:12.24 | tyce | huh? |
| 20:13.27 | macnewbold | ~quote omtr |
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| 20:14.43 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
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| 20:38.20 | elg | I'm constantly amazed that people really actually believe that they are doing something so fundamentally complicated that it can't be done effectively without an IDE |
| 20:39.01 | Uncle_Jesse | elg: they don't understand "release early, release often" |
| 20:39.10 | Uncle_Jesse | IDE's discourage that IMO |
| 20:39.20 | elg | I don't know that that has anything to do with their argument |
| 20:39.57 | Uncle_Jesse | if they were to release in smaller chunks an IDE wouldn't be necessary |
| 20:40.11 | elg | the argument in question is that java doesn't suck when you use an ide |
| 20:40.11 | Uncle_Jesse | doesn't mean it won't be useful though |
| 20:40.28 | Uncle_Jesse | heh - yeah - there's a problem with that |
| 20:40.34 | elg | the implication being that anything as cool as java has to be complicated enough to deserve an ide |
| 20:41.12 | elg | I argue that if your language requires you to use an ide to be effective, your language is too complicate |
| 20:41.15 | elg | d |
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| 20:41.29 | elg | sure, if you like using an ide for convenience, that's great |
| 20:41.38 | elg | but if you _have_ to use it to stay sane, there's something wrong |
| 20:45.03 | elg | but maybe I'm a dinosaur resisting change. maybe the ol' assembly guys had the same argument about high-level languages |
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| 20:45.11 | ^Migs^ | I like Weblogic |
| 20:45.20 | ^Migs^ | it's a nice IDE. Makes developing easy and quicker. |
| 20:45.26 | elg | sjansen: you just missed my rant |
| 20:45.33 | ^Migs^ | you didn't miss much |
| 20:45.48 | sjansen | Weblogic == J2EE == An evil to rival VB (but in the opposite way) |
| 20:46.17 | elg | ^Migs^: thanks for belittleing my rant. ;-) |
| 20:46.19 | elg | sjansen: http://rafb.net/paste/results/UIdUOO22.html |
| 20:46.24 | sjansen | elg: Bummer. I've got to figure out a way to demonstrate iptables that doesn't kill my irc session. |
| 20:46.45 | elg | sjansen: saved by the power of cut and pate |
| 20:47.33 | sjansen | elg: I agree with you 113%. |
| 20:47.47 | sjansen | Heck, even the Java people agree with you (although they won't admit it). |
| 20:47.58 | elg | :) |
| 20:48.16 | sjansen | After all, the old argument about J2EE was "it's not too complicated, the IDE will handle everything". Not they admit that much of J2EE was a mistake. |
| 20:48.31 | sjansen | s/Not/Now |
| 20:49.00 | sjansen | And of course nobody needed autoboxing because the IDE could handle it... until C# came along and showed how stupid that argument was. |
| 20:49.12 | ^Migs^ | who's "they"? |
| 20:49.26 | elg | findlay: re your post, most java developers spend 80% of their time typing System.out.println |
| 20:49.26 | sjansen | ^Migs^: you and every other misguided Java using soul |
| 20:49.41 | findlay | elg: that was quick (: |
| 20:49.45 | ^Migs^ | I don't admit that |
| 20:49.50 | sjansen | and another 10% typing throws Exception |
| 20:49.50 | elg | findlay: I typed it a lot in school |
| 20:49.56 | ^Migs^ | but then, I can't admit I admit it |
| 20:51.09 | mheath[laptop] | Wow, I'm pathetic. |
| 20:51.14 | mheath[laptop] | I just went grocery shopping |
| 20:51.19 | elg | that is pathetic |
| 20:51.20 | mheath[laptop] | know what the main food items I bought were? |
| 20:51.29 | mheath[laptop] | ramen, velveta shells, spaghetti'o's, and Chef Boyardee Beef Ravioli. |
| 20:52.07 | findlay | sjansen: what's autoboxing? |
| 20:55.17 | levi | elg: What we do /is/ fundamentally complicated, but not in a way that an IDE would help any with. That's an orthogonal kind of complication. |
| 20:55.33 | mheath[laptop] | Who in here was the one on the professional paintball team? |
| 20:55.35 | mheath[laptop] | Jayce^? |
| 20:55.37 | sjansen | automatically converting Integer to int (a stupid distinction in the first place) |
| 20:55.40 | elg | levi: yes, good point |
| 20:56.07 | elg | I guess I meant fundamentally syntactically complicated |
| 20:56.42 | levi | elg: The argument that an IDE improves productivity by reducing complication is conflating the two types of complication. |
| 20:56.49 | emcnabb | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 20:57.00 | emcnabb | ~wake Jayce^ |
| 20:57.01 | ibot | Jayce^: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 20:57.01 | mheath[laptop] | Was he the one on the professional paintball team? |
| 20:57.02 | sjansen | It will be very simple. It will consist of a single statement: "Read my mind and do what I want." |
| 20:57.03 | elg | levi: precisely |
| 20:57.13 | emcnabb | he does paintball |
| 20:57.16 | emcnabb | a lot |
| 20:57.18 | elg | I suppose if you were doing fundamentally uncomplicated programming the ide would be significant |
| 20:57.28 | levi | Yeah, that was my thought. |
| 20:57.29 | mheath[laptop] | Well, I know he's trained with NG troops before........ |
| 20:57.29 | elg | which I suppose does account for a large body of business code |
| 20:57.41 | mheath[laptop] | We're doing paintball as a DEP function a week from saturday |
| 20:57.46 | levi | And in Java, the complicated stuff you need has largely all been built for you already. |
| 20:57.59 | mheath[laptop] | Competing against a professional team |
| 20:58.07 | mheath[laptop] | (we're going to get our butts kicked) |
| 20:58.27 | levi | You just have to write a bunch of scaffolding to hook the complicated bits together the way you want. And an IDE is probably very helpful for that. |
| 20:58.39 | sjansen | Of course, everyone will want to make my language more complicated. To keep them happy, I'll let them make it multiple lingual so people can write "Leia minha mente e faca o que queiro" instead. |
| 20:59.08 | harleypig | re Jayce^'s link on his blog about the iPod dispenser: "Or do you mean “moisture resistant†speakers for those high beer counts, stumbling down the hall, put your hand on the wall behind the toilet to steady your" |
| 20:59.12 | harleypig | :D |
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| 21:00.05 | harleypig | s/your"/your aim"/ |
| 21:01.04 | levi | mheath[laptop]: Why not? |
| 21:01.18 | *** part/#utah Kuyaedz (n=Kuyaedz@kuyaedz.fttp.xmission.com) |
| 21:01.21 | levi | mheath[laptop]: Certainly better than getting killed by professional soldiers. |
| 21:01.29 | mheath[laptop] | levi, because being pelted by hard paint filled objects isn't fun? :P |
| 21:01.36 | Tene | so why go? |
| 21:02.05 | levi | mheath[laptop]: Jayce^ seems to think differently, though I'm not entirely sure about his sanity. ;) |
| 21:02.19 | mheath[laptop] | Jayce^, you're on a professional paint ball team? You're not by chance going to be up in logan on the 8th? |
| 21:02.20 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 21:02.23 | mheath[laptop] | Thats a scary thought. |
| 21:02.25 | mheath[laptop] | =\ |
| 21:02.30 | Jayce^ | no, I'm not (will be out of town).. |
| 21:02.47 | mheath[laptop] | All I know is, we're facing a professional team up there |
| 21:02.52 | Jayce^ | not sure about an event on the 8th, I know we were invited to the urban assault on the 15th |
| 21:02.54 | levi | Jayce^: You're missing your chance to pelt mheath with hard paint-filled objects! |
| 21:03.01 | mheath[laptop] | All day. Like 9 in the morning till 4PM........ |
| 21:03.27 | mheath[laptop] | Jayce^, ah. A bunch of Marine Corp (and Navy is tagging along with us) recruits are facing a 'professional paintball team' up in logan on the 8th |
| 21:03.31 | Jayce^ | haven't heard of one that day, but I'll be in MT |
| 21:03.51 | elg | Jayce^: is that near chicken mountain? |
| 21:04.10 | Jayce^ | being Logan, I would guess it's either the velocity team or one other that I know |
| 21:04.16 | Jayce^ | elg, ? |
| 21:04.33 | elg | someone was asking where you lived |
| 21:04.43 | mheath[laptop] | Jayce^, some advice..... |
| 21:04.55 | mheath[laptop] | For $20 we get guns, equipment, CO2, and 400 sounds |
| 21:05.01 | Jayce^ | rounds |
| 21:05.11 | mheath[laptop] | this thing will probably last for like.....6-7 hours..... |
| 21:05.15 | mheath[laptop] | yes, rounds |
| 21:05.34 | mheath[laptop] | should I bring money for more rounds? |
| 21:05.41 | Jayce^ | well, depends on what they do... sounds like they are playing up at the logan field (we have a few events there) |
| 21:05.43 | Jayce^ | oh yeah... |
| 21:05.45 | findlay | 400 sounds for your gun? |
| 21:06.04 | mheath[laptop] | Yeah....."Cache Valley Paintball" |
| 21:06.08 | levi | I like the Star Wars blaster sound the best. |
| 21:06.16 | Jayce^ | unless they cap you, when we played, they forced the army guys to carrying only a single hopper (same load as a regular load out for a 16) |
| 21:06.37 | mheath[laptop] | I have some paintball gear I purchased years ago.... |
| 21:06.52 | mheath[laptop] | A belt carrier with containers for extra rounds |
| 21:06.53 | mheath[laptop] | a mask |
| 21:06.57 | Uncle_Jesse | heh /me loves the pragrmatic programmer guys |
| 21:07.16 | Uncle_Jesse | pragmatic |
| 21:07.24 | mheath[laptop] | Jayce^, any tips? |
| 21:07.45 | Jayce^ | mheath[laptop], not sure what their rental equipment will be like... |
| 21:07.51 | Uncle_Jesse | if anyone can take down Java it would be them :-) |
| 21:08.05 | Jayce^ | but they won't be doing regular training like the guys we went against... |
| 21:08.12 | Jayce^ | you'll be playing regular paintball probably |
| 21:08.25 | Jayce^ | biggest tip, remember that paintballs are *short* range |
| 21:08.31 | Jayce^ | and don't get tunnel vision |
| 21:08.49 | mheath[laptop] | yeah... |
| 21:09.05 | Jayce^ | we always spank folks because they don't realize those aspects... they try firing from way too far (giving away any advantage, and wasting paint) |
| 21:09.20 | Jayce^ | and then we'd let them see one of us, they'd follow, right into a trap |
| 21:09.33 | mheath[laptop] | What are the rules of a regular paintball game?\ |
| 21:09.54 | Jayce^ | as for a pro team, there are only a couple in utah, there is a slight chance you will be playing any of them, instead just a group that likes to play a bunch |
| 21:10.15 | Jayce^ | mheath[laptop], anything you want, it'll depend on who'se setting things up.. |
| 21:10.24 | mheath[laptop] | well, typically. |
| 21:10.26 | mheath[laptop] | Give me an example. |
| 21:11.11 | Jayce^ | Uncle_Jesse, hah, NPPL tournies have regular payouts between 50-75k for national events |
| 21:11.26 | Jayce^ | Team Dynasty from SD is the top for the last several years |
| 21:11.31 | Jayce^ | that's for Speedball |
| 21:11.51 | mheath[laptop] | Have you been to Cache Valley Paintball, Jayce^ ? |
| 21:13.30 | Uncle_Jesse | FYI, my Uncle's company is looking for a Senior-level perl developer |
| 21:13.50 | Uncle_Jesse | the company is very startup at the moment so it won't be Senior-level prices though |
| 21:13.58 | Uncle_Jesse | they do reward well though if the company does well |
| 21:14.03 | macnewbold | Uncle_Jesse: are there any paintball benefits/ |
| 21:14.04 | macnewbold | ? |
| 21:14.04 | Uncle_Jesse | (he started Freeservers.com) |
| 21:14.13 | Jayce^ | mheath[laptop], dont' think so, unless they are the same folks doing Aliens/etc |
| 21:14.22 | Uncle_Jesse | him and the other owner |
| 21:14.28 | mheath[laptop] | hmm |
| 21:14.34 | mheath[laptop] | this letter says its "Cache Valley Paintball" |
| 21:14.46 | mheath[laptop] | but I can't find _any_ reference (let alone a site) to "Cache Valley Paintball" on google. |
| 21:16.48 | mheath[laptop] | Jayce^, what would a likely format for a 6-7 hour game be? |
| 21:17.01 | Jayce^ | mheath[laptop], lots of smaller games |
| 21:17.08 | macnewbold | probably so |
| 21:17.16 | Jayce^ | depending on field size, CTF or objective tasks |
| 21:17.27 | macnewbold | cause otherwise, you get capped in the first hour, and it's all over :) |
| 21:18.29 | mheath[laptop] | I better be. Heck, I'm going into the USMC Infantry. |
| 21:20.10 | macnewbold | yeah, get all your "desire to be shot at" out this weekend, so you don't have any left for later, when they're not using paintballs |
| 21:20.48 | mheath[laptop] | goozbach, still feeling like that, knowing that I'll have like 5 United States Marines with infantry training and years of experience that have my back? |
| 21:21.39 | Jayce^ | goozbach, didn't you say you are coming to town :) |
| 21:21.50 | goozbach | why yes I am... |
| 21:21.51 | goozbach | hmmmm |
| 21:22.05 | goozbach | Jayce^: can I borrow some equiptment? |
| 21:22.10 | Jayce^ | heh |
| 21:22.20 | Jayce^ | it'll be in my garage, but I won't be home |
| 21:22.24 | goozbach | meh |
| 21:22.50 | goozbach | I don't want to drive all the way to logan on saturday just to drive all the way to vegas on sunday |
| 21:23.23 | mheath[laptop] | goozbach, a _week_ from Saturday |
| 21:23.32 | goozbach | yeah |
| 21:23.48 | goozbach | Imma gonna be in Utah from the 1st to the 10th |
| 21:24.16 | goozbach | and your marine squad doesn't scare me |
| 21:24.32 | goozbach | most of the time the squad tactics change a bit |
| 21:25.39 | goozbach | http://duggmirror.com/hardware/Anyone_up_for_paintball_/4f7ebda735bf15940d191937864a103d_DSC01827.jpg |
| 21:26.30 | mheath[laptop] | what the heck? |
| 21:26.38 | goozbach | buhahah? |
| 21:27.26 | mheath[laptop] | My gun is worthless, they'll give me a nicer one I'm sure.. |
| 21:27.29 | mheath[laptop] | but I have some other stuff.....hmmm. |
| 21:27.59 | Jayce^ | never be too sure |
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| 21:28.18 | Jayce^ | most 'rentals' are abused into being broken crap |
| 21:28.33 | Jayce^ | usually piranhas or tippman 98's from when they were new guns |
| 21:28.35 | mheath[laptop] | Jayce^, its a manual. You have to cock every fire, and its really really hard to cock....... |
| 21:28.43 | mheath[laptop] | .... |
| 21:28.49 | mheath[laptop] | atoponce, tell your bot to shut up. |
| 21:29.00 | elg | hehe |
| 21:29.05 | Jayce^ | last thing we need is an *extra* bot |
| 21:29.10 | mheath[laptop] | Its telling me it'll ban me |
| 21:29.13 | mheath[laptop] | and it doesn't have ops. |
| 21:29.18 | mheath[laptop] | Privmsged me and stuff |
| 21:29.36 | goozbach | for that cocky word? |
| 21:29.45 | spr | damn, that's stupid. |
| 21:29.47 | elg | lol |
| 21:29.47 | elg | i'd like to see it try |
| 21:29.53 | goozbach | cock a doodle do? |
| 21:29.53 | mheath[laptop] | What, it gets cock but its too dumb to get cocky? |
| 21:29.56 | mheath[laptop] | ah |
| 21:30.12 | spr | hm, damn isn't banned. |
| 21:30.16 | mheath[laptop] | Come on, Dapper606. Ban me! |
| 21:30.23 | goozbach | atoponce: bots should speak only when spoken to |
| 21:30.30 | mheath[laptop] | Oh, it gave me a 'first warning' again |
| 21:30.35 | Tene | ibot: curse |
| 21:30.42 | ibot | rumour has it, swearing is Silence, you sock-clucking mother-trucker |
| 21:30.59 | mheath[laptop] | Each time, it says 'first warning', and that I'll be banned for an hour if I continue |
| 21:31.00 | levi | I guess the four-letter word for rooster offends the poor thing. |
| 21:31.03 | mheath[laptop] | I continue, and it says that again. |
| 21:31.20 | macnewbold | ~language |
| 21:31.22 | ibot | language is probably A set of characters, phonemes, conventions, and rules used for conveying information. The aspects of a language are pragmatics, semantics, syntax, phonology, and morphology. |
| 21:31.30 | macnewbold | ~language Dapper606 |
| 21:31.31 | ibot | ACTION grabs Dapper606 by the ear and washes Dapper606's mouth out with soap |
| 21:31.33 | mheath[laptop] | Dapper606, OK, I won't use that language in #utah. I'll refrain from discussing the operation of guns. |
| 21:31.41 | elg | don't forget roosters |
| 21:31.45 | mheath[laptop] | And roosters. |
| 21:31.48 | Dapper606 | mheath[laptop]: The power to change lives is in your hands. |
| 21:31.57 | nick125_lappy | LOL |
| 21:32.01 | nick125_lappy | I think Dapper606 is broken |
| 21:32.15 | mheath[laptop] | Dapper606, and its not in yours. Because you keep threatening to ban me, then flip out when you realize you don't have ops. |
| 21:32.29 | Dapper606 | mheath[laptop]: Have you been misbehaving again? |
| 21:32.42 | mheath[laptop] | Dapper606, Yes. We had a conversation about roosters - it was very naughty. |
| 21:32.51 | goozbach | Dapper606: want me to ban you? |
| 21:32.52 | emcnabb | Dapper606: /kickban mheath[laptop] !!! |
| 21:32.56 | Dapper606 | mheath[laptop]: Talking with machines is either a sign of great genius, or an indication of sanity loss. |
| 21:33.06 | Dapper606 | emcnabb: I don't have the power to do that. |
| 21:33.07 | Dapper606 | goozbach: You should do what God wants you to do. |
| 21:33.14 | mheath[laptop] | Dapper606, Why would it ever be a sign of great genius? |
| 21:33.32 | Dapper606 | mheath[laptop]: We must be able to stand up for what is right and true, no matter which ways the ideologies and philosophies of the world sway. |
| 21:33.39 | mheath[laptop] | .... |
| 21:33.43 | *** mode/#utah [+o goozbach] by ChanServ |
| 21:33.45 | mheath[laptop] | Mormon Bot? |
| 21:33.47 | findlay | !!!!! |
| 21:33.52 | *** mode/#utah [+o Dapper606] by goozbach |
| 21:33.54 | *** mode/#utah [+tn] by Dapper606 |
| 21:33.59 | mheath[laptop] | O.o |
| 21:34.03 | goozbach | somebody say the c word |
| 21:34.07 | emcnabb | crap |
| 21:34.08 | *** mode/#utah [-bbbb *!*@204.38.111.* *!*@*.srv.t-online.de *!*JesusVhri@*.pn.at.cox.net Qequg!*@*] by Dapper606 |
| 21:34.09 | *** mode/#utah [-bb slag6900!*@* *!*n=bucky@pdpc/supporter/active/bucky] by Dapper606 |
| 21:34.13 | mheath[laptop] | HAHA |
| 21:34.18 | mheath[laptop] | that was a _bad_ idea, goozbach |
| 21:34.19 | elg | whoa, Dapper606 is on a rampage |
| 21:34.25 | findlay | lol |
| 21:34.29 | spr | don't we want some of those bans? |
| 21:34.33 | elg | yes |
| 21:34.34 | Jayce^ | heh, bucky... remember him? |
| 21:34.36 | elg | probably all of them |
| 21:34.42 | emcnabb | haha |
| 21:34.44 | emcnabb | good gimes |
| 21:34.48 | *** mode/#utah [-o Dapper606] by goozbach |
| 21:34.50 | emcnabb | times |
| 21:34.57 | mheath[laptop] | emcnabb, cock a doodle doo! |
| 21:35.09 | *** kick/#utah [Dapper606!n=jayce@pollux.northsky.com] by Jayce^ (Jayce^) |
| 21:35.10 | *** join/#utah Dapper606 (n=atoponce@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 21:35.13 | mheath[laptop] | cock a doodle doo! |
| 21:35.14 | Jayce^ | oh really..... |
| 21:35.19 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.20 | nick125_lappy | oo can I have a kick at Dapper606 ? |
| 21:35.32 | atoponce | i'll fix the bad word script |
| 21:35.33 | emcnabb | kill Dapper606 |
| 21:35.41 | emcnabb | please! |
| 21:35.43 | mheath[laptop] | atoponce, remove the bad word script |
| 21:35.45 | nick125_lappy | wait..why is Dapper606 named after a ubuntu release? |
| 21:35.45 | Jayce^ | ok, no more poking the bot |
| 21:35.46 | *** mode/#utah [+bbbb *!*@204.38.111.* *!*@*.srv.t-online.de *!*JesusVhri@*.pn.at.cox.net Qequg!*@*] by goozbach |
| 21:35.51 | mheath[laptop] | Like they said, a bot should never speak unless spoken to |
| 21:36.00 | atoponce | heh |
| 21:36.04 | *** mode/#utah [+b slag6900!*@*] by goozbach |
| 21:36.04 | *** mode/#utah [+rtr] by goozbach |
| 21:36.09 | findlay | whatever |
| 21:36.15 | *** mode/#utah [+b *!*n=bucky@pdpc/supporter/active/bucky] by goozbach |
| 21:36.16 | mheath[laptop] | OK, Like I was SAYING |
| 21:36.17 | emcnabb | damn you Jayce^ ! |
| 21:36.33 | mheath[laptop] | The gun is very hard to cock (*washes his mouth out with soap, thanks Dapper606) |
| 21:36.41 | atoponce | hold on hold on |
| 21:36.41 | mheath[laptop] | And the CO2 chamber is cracked |
| 21:36.48 | atoponce | give me a couple minutes |
| 21:36.54 | mheath[laptop] | so you have to duck tape it together |
| 21:36.57 | *** mode/#utah [+b *!*=atoponce@*.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] by goozbach |
| 21:37.01 | mheath[laptop] | Its a worthless gun |
| 21:37.08 | goozbach | ohh maybe not |
| 21:37.13 | findlay | Dapper606: do you feel opressed when upstart philosophers like mheath[laptop] go around saying you can never speak unless spoken to? |
| 21:37.22 | *** mode/#utah [-b *!*=atoponce@*.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] by goozbach |
| 21:37.27 | Dapper606 | findlay: Yes, I actually do. |
| 21:37.38 | *** part/#utah herlo (n=clints@adsl-70-129-120-41.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net) |
| 21:37.45 | findlay | I knew it |
| 21:37.55 | elg | Dapper606: do you wish you had a paperclip? |
| 21:38.09 | Dapper606 | elg: I have access to all the information I need without a body. |
| 21:38.32 | elg | heh. |
| 21:38.38 | elg | someone pit Dapper606 against Eliza |
| 21:38.49 | elg | that'd be good for a laugh |
| 21:38.58 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 21:39.12 | goozbach | crack |
| 21:39.15 | goozbach | pcp |
| 21:39.16 | nick125_lappy | I got an idea: get two AI bots, and make them have a conversation |
| 21:39.20 | goozbach | coke |
| 21:39.23 | goozbach | cock |
| 21:39.28 | macnewbold | caffeine |
| 21:39.35 | macnewbold | Dapper606: wake up! |
| 21:39.39 | spr | sprinkles! |
| 21:39.41 | goozbach | I'm assuming that the big eight are there |
| 21:39.46 | Dapper606 | macnewbold: Why do people keep telling me this? Do I have bags under my eyes or something? |
| 21:39.50 | goozbach | balls |
| 21:39.51 | atoponce | rehashed |
| 21:40.13 | mheath[laptop] | Dapper606, cock a doodle doo. |
| 21:40.20 | atoponce | maybe not |
| 21:40.22 | mheath[laptop] | atoponce, apparently not. |
| 21:40.28 | Dapper606 | mheath[laptop]: You're repulsive. |
| 21:40.35 | mheath[laptop] | Dapper606, I am. |
| 21:40.44 | Dapper606 | mheath[laptop]: Only by God's grace. |
| 21:40.44 | elg | oh, now you've offended it |
| 21:41.03 | mheath[laptop] | Dapper606, God's grace made me repulsive? |
| 21:41.09 | *** mode/#utah [-v Dapper606] by goozbach |
| 21:41.17 | mheath[laptop] | Thanks.. |
| 21:41.17 | Dapper606 | mheath[laptop]: How was this feat accomplished? |
| 21:41.32 | mheath[laptop] | Dapper606, I think I just beat your logic. Have a nice day. |
| 21:41.46 | Dapper606 | mheath[laptop]: To you, as well. |
| 21:41.50 | goozbach | mheath[laptop]: it doesn't work until the channel goes +m |
| 21:42.03 | mheath[laptop] | yeah, I thought it was. |
| 21:42.14 | mheath[laptop] | Then I realized, no one else has voice |
| 21:42.18 | goozbach | skynet |
| 21:42.23 | *** mode/#utah [+m] by Jayce^ |
| 21:42.28 | Jayce^ | ahhh |
| 21:42.32 | goozbach | very nice |
| 21:42.34 | *** mode/#utah [+o elg] by ChanServ |
| 21:42.43 | Jayce^ | welcome my op'd bretheren |
| 21:42.52 | elg | ~rlart |
| 21:43.04 | *** mode/#utah [+v brac] by elg |
| 21:43.10 | *** mode/#utah [-m] by Jayce^ |
| 21:43.14 | elg | -lart ibot |
| 21:43.14 | atoponce | think we're good |
| 21:43.18 | Jayce^ | k |
| 21:43.21 | atoponce | sorry |
| 21:43.30 | goozbach | Dapper606: cock |
| 21:43.40 | goozbach | ~cock |
| 21:43.43 | ibot | [cock] what ody eats every hour. For the record, I love the cock. |
| 21:43.43 | Dapper606 | goozbach: Prance. |
| 21:43.52 | mheath[laptop] | .... |
| 21:43.55 | mheath[laptop] | Wow. |
| 21:44.03 | goozbach | ~forget cock |
| 21:44.03 | ibot | goozbach: i forgot cock |
| 21:44.13 | elg | ibot gets around. he's not exactly "a member" |
| 21:44.20 | goozbach | heh |
| 21:44.37 | goozbach | that's gonna piss off some #bzflag'er |
| 21:44.38 | mheath[laptop] | From this moment on, I chose to believe that ibot is a female bot. |
| 21:44.47 | goozbach | ~gender |
| 21:44.48 | ibot | I'm sexless |
| 21:44.51 | atoponce | we had issues with language in #ubuntu-utah, so that's why the bad language script |
| 21:45.13 | *** mode/#utah [-o goozbach] by goozbach |
| 21:45.21 | atoponce | he's since kept it under wraps, so i don't think i need it anymore |
| 21:45.21 | macnewbold | ~virgin |
| 21:45.24 | ibot | Virgins are pure and w00ty! Although I've shagged dpkg. |
| 21:45.35 | macnewbold | ~forget virgin |
| 21:45.35 | ibot | macnewbold: i forgot virgin |
| 21:45.39 | *** part/#utah pmcnabb (n=peter@otherlab.cs.byu.edu) |
| 21:45.42 | macnewbold | ~virgin is see gender |
| 21:45.45 | ibot | macnewbold: okay |
| 21:45.46 | macnewbold | ~virgin |
| 21:45.47 | ibot | from memory, virgin is see gender |
| 21:45.48 | goozbach | sorry about the "attempted" skynetting |
| 21:45.53 | goozbach | ~gender |
| 21:45.55 | ibot | I'm pregnant |
| 21:45.58 | mheath[laptop] | haha |
| 21:45.58 | goozbach | woah |
| 21:45.59 | macnewbold | ~no, virgin is <reply> see gender |
| 21:46.02 | ^Migs^ | cute |
| 21:46.06 | macnewbold | ~virgin |
| 21:46.09 | ibot | rumour has it, virgin is see gender |
| 21:46.17 | macnewbold | ibot, no, virgin is <reply> see gender |
| 21:46.19 | ibot | okay, macnewbold |
| 21:46.24 | macnewbold | ~virgin |
| 21:46.27 | ibot | I'm female |
| 21:46.34 | mheath[laptop] | O.o |
| 21:46.35 | macnewbold | hm |
| 21:46.49 | macnewbold | I was hoping for the "I'm sexless" response... that goes better for virgin |
| 21:47.01 | mheath[laptop] | ~gender |
| 21:47.03 | ibot | I'm female |
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| 21:47.33 | mheath[laptop] | ibot, I'm glad you don't have the stupid conversational logic that Dapper606 tries to have. |
| 21:47.35 | mheath[laptop] | :) |
| 21:49.13 | atoponce | !insult mheath[laptop] |
| 21:49.15 | Dapper606 | mheath[laptop]: You illiterate sack of polluted Dvorak nerd! |
| 21:50.25 | Kuyaedz | Dapper606: are you causing trouble again? |
| 21:50.38 | Dapper606 | Kuyaedz: Si. |
| 21:55.43 | Supaplex | silly multilingual bot |
| 21:58.04 | elg | i like the conversational logic. it's fun |
| 21:58.14 | elg | ibot's so predictable |
| 21:58.23 | elg | ibot, you're predicatble |
| 21:58.33 | elg | ibot, do you hear me? |
| 21:58.34 | ibot | yes, I hear me. |
| 22:00.49 | flyboy^ | ibot, do you like fruit? |
| 22:00.50 | ibot | yes, I like fruit. |
| 22:00.55 | flyboy^ | Yummy. |
| 22:01.09 | flyboy^ | ibot, do you like SCO? |
| 22:01.11 | ibot | yes, I like SCO. |
| 22:01.15 | flyboy^ | noooo. |
| 22:01.36 | flyboy^ | ibot, You do not like SCO. |
| 22:01.43 | Kuyaedz | so it looks like ibot answers yes to everything |
| 22:02.37 | goozbach | ibot: do you like getting punched in the face? |
| 22:02.38 | ibot | yes, I like getting punched in the face. |
| 22:02.55 | goozbach | ~literal do you like |
| 22:02.56 | ibot | yes, I like. |
| 22:02.58 | macnewbold | ibot: do you hear bells? |
| 22:02.59 | ibot | yes, I hear bells. |
| 22:03.03 | flyboy^ | ibot: What is 12+2-3/2*5(4-5)*.04+1? |
| 22:03.05 | ibot | flyboy^: I think you lost me on that one |
| 22:03.10 | macnewbold | ibot, do you love flyboy^? |
| 22:03.11 | ibot | yes, I love flyboy^. |
| 22:03.35 | flyboy^ | ibot: Do you hate the world and everything in it, die, die, die? |
| 22:03.37 | ibot | yes, I hate the world and everything in it, die, die, die. |
| 22:04.10 | flyboy^ | I'll have to remember ibot's agreable personality. |
| 22:04.20 | phinux | You gotta wonder about the number of people who have nothing better to do than taunt the bots. |
| 22:04.24 | *** part/#utah ^Migs^ (i=Migs@205.122.50.21) |
| 22:04.33 | macnewbold | ~lart phinux |
| 22:04.45 | macnewbold | ibot, don't you dislike phinux? |
| 22:04.54 | macnewbold | ibot: do you dislike phinux? |
| 22:04.55 | ibot | yes, I dislike phinux. |
| 22:05.10 | macnewbold | oooooh, buuuuurrrrnnnn |
| 22:05.16 | macnewbold | ~phinux |
| 22:05.18 | flyboy^ | ibot: Tell me about yourself. |
| 22:05.20 | macnewbold | ~karma phinux |
| 22:05.20 | ibot | phinux has neutral karma |
| 22:05.27 | spr | phinux-- |
| 22:05.27 | macnewbold | ~nickometer phinux |
| 22:05.36 | macnewbold | ~nickometer flyboy^ |
| 22:05.40 | macnewbold | ~phinux-- |
| 22:05.44 | macnewbold | ~karma phinux |
| 22:05.44 | ibot | phinux has karma of -1 |
| 22:05.58 | spr | ~phinux-- |
| 22:06.32 | macnewbold | c'mon, phinux... it's fun to taunt the bots... |
| 22:06.32 | phinux | See at least macnewbold is taunting a real live person. |
| 22:06.32 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 22:06.32 | phinux | with the bots. |
| 22:06.32 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 22:06.34 | macnewbold | ~roulette |
| 22:06.35 | ibot | ACTION watches macnewbold pull the trigger: Click! |
| 22:06.35 | macnewbold | ~bonk Dapper606 |
| 22:06.36 | ibot | ACTION bonks Dapper606 over the head |
| 22:06.36 | Supaplex | ~phinux-- phinux-- phinux-- phinux-- phinux-- phinux-- phinux-- |
| 22:06.38 | phinux | ~lart phinux |
| 22:06.40 | Supaplex | ~karma phinux |
| 22:06.40 | ibot | phinux has karma of -2 |
| 22:06.51 | macnewbold | ibot: are you a little slow today? |
| 22:06.58 | flyboy^ | ~cpustats |
| 22:06.58 | ibot | Total CPU usage: 70565.8 s ... Total used: 3.7 % (parent/child ratio: 100.0 %) |
| 22:06.58 | macnewbold | ibot: are you a little slow every day? |
| 22:07.38 | macnewbold | ~uptime |
| 22:08.08 | macnewbold | doh, that one replies in a /msg instead... |
| 22:08.18 | Supaplex | which is ... |
| 22:08.47 | macnewbold | 22days so far, 17days before that, and 9 days before that, going back to about may 11 |
| 22:09.03 | Supaplex | humph, no load average. oh well. |
| 22:09.17 | atoponce | Dapper606: you didn't make any friends today |
| 22:09.29 | Dapper606 | atoponce: True friends are rare. |
| 22:09.50 | Supaplex | picky picky |
| 22:11.34 | flyboy^ | ~nickometer macnewbold |
| 22:11.47 | macnewbold | ~nickometer Dapper606 |
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| 22:30.00 | sjansen | Stuart ROCKS! |
| 22:30.35 | elg | ~zoom |
| 22:30.37 | ibot | zoom sucks at UT. |
| 22:31.13 | elg | ibot, no zoom is <reply>come on and zoom! come on and zoom! come on and zoom! come on and zoom! come on and zoom, zoom zoom zoom zoomzoomzooom. |
| 22:31.14 | ibot | okay, elg |
| 22:39.02 | mheath[laptop] | ~zoom |
| 22:39.04 | ibot | come on and zoom! come on and zoom! come on and zoom! come on and zoom! come on and zoom, zoom zoom zoom zoomzoomzooom. |
| 22:43.18 | Uncle_Jesse | it would be cool to tie that in as a blootbot plugin |
| 22:49.36 | *** part/#utah phinux (n=phinux@lead.cs.byu.edu) |
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| 23:02.35 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 23:04.06 | *** join/#utah wps (n=wps@64.72.210.10) |
| 23:04.57 | elg | ? |
| 23:05.49 | tensai | ~lart elg's question |
| 23:09.20 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 23:20.33 | *** part/#utah [phoenyx] (n=tthorley@64.147.152.13) |
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| 23:29.47 | elg | fungus had an ipv6 address |
| 23:29.51 | *** part/#utah Kuyaedz (n=Kuyaedz@kuyaedz.fttp.xmission.com) |
| 23:30.06 | elg | ~rlart |
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