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| 00:43.29 | tene | http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/18/usb-teddy-bear-holds-data-scares-children/ |
| 00:43.35 | brac | [USB teddy bear holds data, scares children - Engadget] |
| 00:46.49 | xbmodder_newlapp | whoa, likewhoa |
| 01:08.41 | levi_ | Whew, crazy day today. |
| 01:09.23 | nick125 | tene: LOL |
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| 01:47.12 | tensai | ~sorry maquis |
| 01:47.13 | ibot | ACTION apologizes to maquis |
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| 02:33.06 | Kuyaedz | lol |
| 02:42.48 | Kuyaedz | what package can I install to get flash in FF for FC5? |
| 02:45.29 | pmcnabb | Kuyaedz, see http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Flash |
| 02:45.32 | brac | [PluginDoc: Linux (x86)] |
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| 03:05.45 | Kuyaedz | installed that.. still not loading flash |
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| 03:09.37 | roscivs | Kuyaedz: try "yum install flash-plugin" |
| 03:12.20 | Kuyaedz | roscivs: No Match for argument: flash-plugin |
| 03:12.51 | roscivs | hmmm. |
| 03:13.14 | Kuyaedz | I'm using livna, core, updates, freshrpms & extras repos.. |
| 03:13.42 | spengy | anyone know what I should do with a spare 800mhz puter? |
| 03:13.53 | roscivs | spengy: Backup server. |
| 03:13.57 | Kuyaedz | server |
| 03:14.22 | spengy | Well, I've already got a fairly nice server with ~500GB of storage |
| 03:14.23 | herlo_home | Kuyaedz, the flash player for fc5 should've just installed from the ff updates |
| 03:14.50 | Kuyaedz | herlo_home: Well I'm all up-to-date and I can't get flash to load.. who knows |
| 03:14.55 | spengy | I was thinking maybe a jukebox |
| 03:15.05 | herlo_home | Kuyaedz: strange |
| 03:15.19 | Kuyaedz | this game is too close for me |
| 03:15.19 | herlo_home | when I did it, it just worked. Hang on a sec, let me find something for you |
| 03:15.21 | roscivs | ftp://ftp.pbone.net/mirror/macromedia.mplug.org/apt/fedora/3/RPMS.macromedia/flash-plugin-7.0.63-1.i386.rpm |
| 03:15.27 | roscivs | i think this is the rpm I have installed |
| 03:15.44 | roscivs | ]$ rpm -q flash-plugin |
| 03:15.45 | roscivs | flash-plugin-7.0.63-1 |
| 03:17.36 | Kuyaedz | thanks. that did it |
| 03:21.17 | nick125 | spengy: you could make a small jukebox, yeah |
| 03:21.22 | nick125 | what kind of storage does it have? |
| 03:21.46 | nick125 | If it has 10gb or so, put a stripped down gentoo or debian on it |
| 03:21.53 | nick125 | and MPD |
| 03:22.05 | nick125 | maybe a small php/lighttpd setup for phpmp2 |
| 03:24.59 | spengy | nick125: It has no storage right now |
| 03:25.12 | spengy | nick125: but I have two 40GB drives i could use |
| 03:25.43 | spengy | nick125: right now I am looking for a WoL cable for it... |
| 03:29.59 | nick125 | well, you could do ethboot or something like that |
| 03:32.11 | spengy | yeah... I've done pxe booting before |
| 03:32.20 | mheath[laptop] | LMAO |
| 03:32.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ETHERBOOT IS NOT PXE. :) |
| 03:33.15 | spengy | ScytheBlade1: fine |
| 03:33.22 | nick125 | lol |
| 03:33.31 | nick125 | whats the difference? :P |
| 03:34.08 | ScytheBlade1 | PXE is a standard |
| 03:34.13 | spengy | In any case, it's amazing the cool stuff you can find in old mobo boxes. stuff you didn't even know you had |
| 03:34.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Etherboot is another way to do the same thing |
| 03:34.54 | spengy | I found a DVI->VGA converter, a bunch of SATA cables, motherboard standoffs, IDE cables |
| 03:34.58 | ScytheBlade1 | But it is in no way shape or form related to PXE :) |
| 03:34.59 | spengy | everything except a wake on lan cable |
| 03:35.28 | nick125 | wake on lan *cable*? |
| 03:35.36 | spengy | yeah |
| 03:35.42 | spengy | this older motherboard (for the duron) |
| 03:35.47 | nick125 | you have to have a special cable? |
| 03:35.55 | spengy | in this case, yeah |
| 03:36.08 | spengy | no integrated NIC. Ive got a NIC with a spot for the cable, and a spot on the mobo for it |
| 03:36.11 | spengy | it's a little 3 pin cable |
| 03:36.16 | spengy | I know I used to have one, but I can't find it |
| 03:36.41 | mheath[laptop] | Wow. |
| 03:37.00 | mheath[laptop] | Some people would consider starting a corporation a serious enough venture that they should talk to a lawyer when drafting their articles of corporation |
| 03:37.32 | mheath[laptop] | Wouldn't you say that having a "Incorporate Now!" ecommerce website do it for you is a little silly? :P |
| 03:37.43 | nick125 | lol |
| 03:37.59 | mheath[laptop] | nick125: kinda stupid, right? |
| 03:38.29 | mheath[laptop] | ATARACK COMMUNICATIONS INC. |
| 03:38.34 | mheath[laptop] | Number: C2788769 |
| 03:38.40 | mheath[laptop] | Date Filed: 3/13/2006 |
| 03:38.40 | roscivs | anyone used freemarker before? |
| 03:38.43 | mheath[laptop] | Status: active |
| 03:38.48 | mheath[laptop] | Jurisdiction: California |
| 03:38.53 | mheath[laptop] | Agent for Service of Process |
| 03:39.05 | mheath[laptop] | MY CORPORATION BUSINESS SERVICES, INC. |
| 03:39.12 | mheath[laptop] | 26520 AGOURA RD |
| 03:39.13 | nick125 | lol |
| 03:39.21 | mheath[laptop] | CALABASA, CA 91302 |
| 03:41.35 | bertbob | hmm, I thought the town was named calabasas |
| 03:42.03 | nick125 | it is... |
| 03:42.20 | mheath[laptop] | nick125: OMG, do you have one of the "10 Personalized Corporate Share Certificates"!? |
| 03:42.21 | nick125 | according to my zipcode lookup program least :P |
| 03:42.47 | nick125 | lol |
| 03:44.08 | mheath[laptop] | nick125: Do you get any money from Atarack? |
| 03:44.27 | nick125 | mheath[laptop]: we usually pour the money back into the company.. |
| 03:44.43 | mheath[laptop] | nick125: have you gotten _any_ money from business operations related to Atarack? |
| 03:45.53 | nick125 | no one gets any money from this yet...we usually pour it back into the business |
| 03:46.07 | mheath[laptop] | nick125: I hope not, because if so - Atarack is committing tax fraud! |
| 03:46.21 | mheath[laptop] | I hope you have a business license |
| 03:46.34 | mheath[laptop] | I asked him if you had a business license, and he replied "We're incorporated" |
| 03:47.10 | mheath[laptop] | incorpation creates a legal entitiy; that legal entity is still subject to the laws of the area you live in, which usually includes a business license :) |
| 03:48.43 | mheath[laptop] | Sorry, i just find it silly that he expects me to give him $200 to a company that is legally, as far as I can tell, not in any position to legally accept such money from me |
| 03:49.03 | nick125 | we do have a license.. |
| 03:49.05 | mheath[laptop] | A company riddled with legal holes that it has to fill before it can really legitimately do business with anyone. |
| 03:49.37 | mheath[laptop] | nick125: a business license, or an OMG, YOUR COMPANY IS NOW YOURS, CONGRATS! certificate from the registermybusinessreallyfreakinquick.com site? :P |
| 03:50.08 | nick125 | lol |
| 03:51.12 | mheath[laptop] | nick125: I particurly liked his garbage about your legal involvement |
| 03:51.20 | mheath[laptop] | Uh, he has a certificate guaranting a proxy vote.....\ |
| 03:51.41 | mheath[laptop] | A proxy vote is an absentee vote. You give someone else the right to vote for you. |
| 03:52.08 | mheath[laptop] | If your contract makes it so you can only vote from proxy, and the company is 50/50, you've made it for all practical purposes 100% owned by him |
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| 04:03.46 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 04:04.16 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 04:04.55 | nick125_lappy | ouch |
| 04:04.58 | nick125_lappy | thats got to hurt |
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| 05:06.33 | findlay | ~grit tensai |
| 05:21.19 | scottj | anyone know how to find the mx record for a domain? |
| 05:21.31 | roscivs | you mean like "dig mx domain" ? |
| 05:22.28 | herlo_home | scottj dig mx domain |
| 05:22.37 | herlo_home | oh, I wasn't reading |
| 05:22.40 | herlo_home | lol |
| 05:22.43 | roscivs | hehe |
| 05:22.50 | roscivs | I was just thinking |
| 05:22.56 | roscivs | "wow, herlo's sure paying attention tonight" |
| 05:23.13 | herlo_home | you were? what's wrong with you?\ |
| 05:35.00 | findlay | dig can modify dns records? |
| 05:38.44 | findlay | oh, I read 'find' as 'fix' |
| 05:38.46 | findlay | duh |
| 05:38.50 | findlay | whatever |
| 05:39.30 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 05:43.16 | mheath[laptop] | by the way, the salmon was delicious. |
| 05:43.24 | mheath[laptop] | It was the best part of my day |
| 05:43.38 | mheath[laptop] | lemon pepper seasonings, and fresh lemon juice and tomtoes |
| 05:43.46 | mheath[laptop] | Add some cajun seasonings.. |
| 05:43.50 | mheath[laptop] | Orgasmic. |
| 06:09.16 | mheath[laptop] | OK, I'm officially 17 years old. |
| 06:09.25 | mheath[laptop] | Time for sleep, I think. |
| 08:05.54 | xbmodder_newlapp | Orgasmic? |
| 08:06.04 | xbmodder_newlapp | ~wtf |
| 08:06.13 | nick125_lappy | LOL |
| 08:35.39 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 08:37.17 | nick125_lappy | hmm..I need something to do |
| 08:38.28 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_newlapp: think of something small to do in ajax |
| 08:39.31 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 08:39.33 | xbmodder_newlapp | like what? |
| 08:39.38 | nick125_lappy | something small |
| 08:39.45 | nick125_lappy | and quick |
| 08:43.57 | tene | nick125_lappy: wiki |
| 08:44.14 | tene | live-update wiki |
| 08:44.19 | nick125_lappy | didn't I say small? :P |
| 08:44.28 | tene | That is small... |
| 08:44.47 | tene | I've seen it done in a few dozen lines of code. |
| 08:50.50 | nick125_lappy | I got an interesting idea to play around with timers, and some UI stuff, maybe a web RSS ticker..just for the heck of it |
| 08:51.11 | nick125_lappy | I'm not sure... |
| 09:17.44 | xbmodder_newlapp | oh |
| 09:34.48 | tene | Bad maquis! Go to bed! |
| 09:35.50 | maquis | tene: i'm getting out of bed |
| 09:36.04 | maquis | i went to bed around 8 last night |
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| 11:27.26 | maquis | bah |
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| 12:41.50 | goozbach | morning |
| 12:41.53 | ^Migs^ | howdy |
| 12:53.15 | goozbach | so I just want it to be on record |
| 12:53.20 | goozbach | you all SUCK!!! |
| 12:53.39 | goozbach | cause I didn't get to go to the inter-LUG BBQ |
| 12:55.33 | ^Migs^ | wow, we do suck |
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| 14:53.21 | redbeard1 | tristanbob: ping |
| 14:54.02 | spr | ~lart alcatel |
| 14:54.42 | goozbach | redbeard1: so I had a tastetreat saturday |
| 14:54.48 | goozbach | deep fried cheessecake |
| 14:55.28 | redbeard1 | goozbach: oh man. did you fry it, or did you go someplace that did? |
| 14:58.53 | goozbach | went someplace that did it |
| 14:59.10 | goozbach | I'm not THAT creative yet |
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| 15:13.27 | ^Migs^ | I coined a new word over the weekend. I went on a hike with two of my Asian friends, and one of them kept whining about how hard the hike was, so I called him a Complasian. |
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| 15:15.12 | goozbach | http://www.danamania.com/burger/ |
| 15:15.13 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 15:15.19 | goozbach | ~puke sjansen |
| 15:15.27 | goozbach | brac: hello? |
| 15:16.05 | goozbach | FYI QT takes FOREVER to compile |
| 15:16.43 | goozbach | and i'm rather impressed by the new release of OOo impress |
| 15:17.04 | brac | goozbach: hi! |
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| 15:19.28 | sjansen | goozbach: that is _so_ beautiful |
| 15:22.25 | goozbach | isn't it though? |
| 15:22.38 | goozbach | if only it wasn't a mcdonalds burger |
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| 15:25.22 | maquis | !@#$!@#%%$%~$%#%%^#& |
| 15:26.16 | sjansen | ~language maquis |
| 15:26.17 | ibot | ACTION grabs maquis by the ear and washes maquis's mouth out with soap |
| 15:26.25 | harleypig | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060619/od_nm/china_cats_dc |
| 15:28.09 | harleypig | maquis: I'm curious about your response to my blog post, you said "interesting". |
| 15:28.38 | levi_ | Morning, #utah. |
| 15:29.05 | maquis | harleypig: i can't reply much at the moment... |
| 15:29.05 | harleypig | Isn't that supposed to be GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING #UTAH! |
| 15:29.06 | harleypig | ? |
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| 15:29.13 | harleypig | maquis: in class? |
| 15:29.15 | maquis | but i'll get back to you in a bit |
| 15:29.19 | levi_ | harleypig: Nope. |
| 15:29.28 | maquis | harleypig: not quite... class is in 15 minutes and the project that's supposed to be running by then isn't |
| 15:30.44 | maquis | our AI bots have a conscience |
| 15:30.44 | harleypig | ah |
| 15:30.50 | maquis | if you can figure out how to get rid of that... |
| 15:31.03 | maquis | we'd kinda like it if they'd shoot on occasion |
| 15:32.07 | levi_ | maquis: You need to set ill_tempered to 1. |
| 15:32.18 | maquis | levi_: ah... i'll try that... |
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| 15:33.14 | levi_ | If that doesn't work, try starving them and then teasing them with food. That always puts bots in a nasty murderous mood. |
| 15:34.18 | maquis | levi_: they don't have too much trouble with fratricide, at least |
| 15:34.34 | maquis | oops |
| 15:34.45 | maquis | there goes the attacker... |
| 15:34.52 | maquis | and 2 of the 4 defenders |
| 15:34.57 | maquis | and the enemy wasn't even shooting |
| 15:36.25 | levi_ | Friendly fire? |
| 15:36.31 | maquis | yup |
| 15:39.10 | maquis | and now, robot 0 will shoot, but nobody else will |
| 15:39.19 | maquis | the code is the same for them all |
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| 15:43.33 | tensai | ~lart ctrlproxy |
| 15:44.19 | maquis | -lart bzflag |
| 15:44.19 | maquis | ~lart bzob |
| 15:44.19 | maquis | er |
| 15:44.20 | maquis | sorry |
| 15:44.23 | maquis | ~lart bzflag |
| 15:44.35 | maquis | irssi doesn't tab-complete my thoughts |
| 15:47.25 | flyboy^ | If irssi could do that, I could tab-complete several thousand lines of code. |
| 15:47.32 | flyboy^ | Someone get on that - will ya? |
| 15:47.35 | roscivs | hey maquis, when are you coming out here? |
| 15:54.49 | maquis | roscivs: i start in september |
| 15:55.00 | sjansen | roscivs: You're in WA now? |
| 15:55.02 | roscivs | assuming you pass your classes ;) |
| 15:55.14 | roscivs | sjansen: yup, working for "the man" |
| 15:55.35 | sjansen | That man had better not have the initals BG. |
| 15:55.41 | roscivs | rofl |
| 15:55.45 | roscivs | that's an H no |
| 15:55.59 | roscivs | the man has the initials AMZN |
| 15:56.01 | sjansen | Good, otherwise I'd have to come out there and beat you. |
| 15:56.28 | roscivs | besides, BG "stepped down". He's robber-baron-turned-philanthropist. |
| 15:56.39 | sjansen | No, he's stepping down in about two years. |
| 15:56.44 | roscivs | He's a good guy now. He promises. Giving millions to starving kids in africa. Or something like that. |
| 15:57.28 | ^Migs^ | people should give millions to oust the corrupt African governments instead, that starve people in Africa |
| 15:57.43 | ^Migs^ | giving millions to starving children doesn't solve anything |
| 15:58.14 | roscivs | Migs: Yeah, it's a complicated problem though ... oust one corrupt government, who's going to take their place? another corrupt government most likely. |
| 15:58.37 | ^Migs^ | we Americans just need to move in and make Africa "America II" |
| 15:58.52 | ^Migs^ | problem solved |
| 15:58.56 | roscivs | heh, that's exactly what America's world image needs ;) |
| 15:59.28 | roscivs | of course, considering that subsaharan africa doesn't have any oil, i'm not sure anybody would really care if we took over the entire continent |
| 15:59.39 | roscivs | other than the africans, maybe |
| 15:59.50 | sjansen | ^Migs^: Brilliant. We'll just wipe out the Native Africans like we wiped out the Native Americans and Imported Africans! |
| 15:59.59 | goozbach | oh boy here we go again. |
| 16:00.04 | ^Migs^ | we didn't wipe out native americans |
| 16:00.13 | roscivs | oops ... is there a #utah-politics ? |
| 16:00.13 | ^Migs^ | Europeans wiped out Native Americans. |
| 16:00.34 | ^Migs^ | Americans have been very, very generous to so-called Native Americans. We gave them reservations and such. Most conquering nations just obliterate the conquered |
| 16:00.44 | roscivs | Migs: And then the Americans that live here today just sprung out of ... er, nowhere? |
| 16:00.55 | redbeard1 | ~lart harleypig |
| 16:00.58 | sjansen | Of course not, my ancestors were happily sitting in Scandanavia until about 75 years ago. |
| 16:01.04 | ^Migs^ | plus they get tax breaks and such |
| 16:01.07 | ^Migs^ | I mean, come on |
| 16:01.20 | ^Migs^ | I"m a native American, since I was born in America, but I don't get the same tax breaks |
| 16:01.34 | sjansen | Yes, the Nazi's were very generous with the Jews they gave them Ghettos. |
| 16:01.38 | ^Migs^ | the difference between me and other native Americans is that I choose to live in a rich, cultural society, while they choose to be recluses |
| 16:01.46 | roscivs | So if the chinese came and conquered the US and stuck you on a reservation, |
| 16:01.54 | roscivs | that would be "very, very generous" because they didn't just kill you? |
| 16:01.59 | roscivs | hmmmm. |
| 16:02.03 | ^Migs^ | I, for one, welcome my new Chinese overlords |
| 16:02.50 | JoshH | 200 years ago it wasn't considered evil to conquer new territory |
| 16:03.20 | JoshH | besides, indians used to scalp people and stuff, they weren't these kind gentle people who had no interest in war |
| 16:03.38 | sjansen | It some places it still isn't considered evil to mutilate women. That doesn't mean it's not evil. |
| 16:05.12 | JoshH | i'm just saying our sense of morality has evolved over the centuries. hundreds of years ago nobody thought it was bad to have slaves, have gladiators fight to the death, burn witches at the stake, etc. these days, most people would consider mutilating women wrong. |
| 16:05.28 | goozbach | define evil |
| 16:05.33 | JoshH | except for a few backward cultures |
| 16:05.35 | sjansen | M$ |
| 16:05.43 | emcnabb | goozbach is a witch! burn her! |
| 16:06.00 | ^Migs^ | who says they're "backward"? |
| 16:06.06 | ^Migs^ | they certainly don't consider themselves backward |
| 16:06.07 | sjansen | goozbach: Evil is a bacon rapped, battered & fried, bacon cheese burger with extra mayo. |
| 16:06.16 | ^Migs^ | I'm sure they consider many of our customs "backward" too |
| 16:06.24 | JoshH | in my opinion, they are backward |
| 16:06.33 | ^Migs^ | your opinion could very well be wrong |
| 16:06.39 | JoshH | true |
| 16:06.54 | ^Migs^ | "evil" is very much a uniquely cultural concept |
| 16:06.57 | JoshH | the americans who conquered the indians didn't think they were evil |
| 16:06.58 | sjansen | By the laws of moral relativism I hereby define everyone else on #utah is stupid and uglier than me. |
| 16:07.03 | ^Migs^ | it differs depending on where you live |
| 16:07.25 | ^Migs^ | no argument here, sjansen. You r teh hott13 |
| 16:09.05 | ^Migs^ | I think it really depends on the woman being mutilated |
| 16:09.12 | ^Migs^ | and whether or not it's consensual |
| 16:09.27 | JoshH | from what i understand of the practice, the women aren't given much say in the matter |
| 16:10.01 | ^Migs^ | the practice differs, and it depends on your definition. People actually mutilate women by the millions in America. It's called piercing. |
| 16:10.14 | sjansen | Which I oppose. |
| 16:11.06 | sjansen | goozbach: Evil is a set. I am the function that defines membership. |
| 16:11.21 | ^Migs^ | sjansen++ |
| 16:11.21 | mrpull- | sjansen: did I see you make give PHP a compliment this morning? |
| 16:11.26 | goozbach | so I just found out about a hyper-cool config for su |
| 16:11.31 | goozbach | /etc/suauth |
| 16:11.40 | goozbach | downside: GNU su doesn't use it |
| 16:11.49 | goozbach | cursed GNU hippies |
| 16:12.14 | sjansen | mrpull-: It's only a compliment if you read it from a certain angle. |
| 16:12.28 | sjansen | Try moving your chair a little to one side the re-read it. |
| 16:19.36 | goozbach | sjansen: where was this? |
| 16:19.48 | sjansen | Plug list? |
| 16:20.06 | goozbach | I didn't see it |
| 16:20.07 | goozbach | hmm |
| 16:23.43 | levi_ | Man, I'm sleepy. |
| 16:24.37 | sjansen | ~wake levi_ |
| 16:24.39 | ibot | levi_: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 16:28.15 | levi_ | My parents were here over the weekend for my baby blessing, and they stayed late every night. |
| 16:29.45 | ^Migs^ | holy crap, this is cool: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/castle-illusion.html |
| 16:29.50 | brac | [Castle Illusion] |
| 16:31.40 | sjansen | ^Migs^: What an odd thing to venerate. |
| 16:37.11 | ^Migs^ | no |
| 16:41.15 | sjansen | ~lart emcnabb for fun |
| 16:44.54 | Kuyaedz | gmail is asleep on the job. I just got 4 spam in my inbox |
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| 17:28.32 | QBFreak | this sucks, my new phone isn't as easy to search contacts |
| 17:29.12 | levi_ | What kind of phone? |
| 17:29.17 | QBFreak | in the paste I could dial 537 and it would find the closest match, Jerry, now it searches for JDP |
| 17:29.38 | QBFreak | good question, I was asleep when my dad upgraded it |
| 17:29.44 | QBFreak | an LG camera phone |
| 17:30.00 | levi_ | Oh. Don't know anything about LG phones. |
| 17:30.02 | QBFreak | I would have kept the old one if it wasn't so buggy, it seems to have been degrading |
| 17:30.09 | QBFreak | it was free |
| 17:31.02 | levi_ | The phone portions of my Treo 600 had stopped working reliably, and I didn't use the phone enough to justify the bill, so I switched to T-Mobile To Go. |
| 17:35.08 | levi_ | Heh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ahKsoO7kE |
| 17:35.14 | levi_ | Video game rap. |
| 17:35.43 | QBFreak | are there no sane ring tones on this thing? arg |
| 17:38.48 | findlay | QBFreak: there are no sane ring tones. There never, ever has been any sane ring tones. There will never be any sane riing tones. |
| 17:39.22 | findlay | that, of course, is just my optimistic viewpoint |
| 17:39.46 | QBFreak | my last phone had one that didn't sound like crappy music, it was nice |
| 17:39.58 | macnewbold | QBFreak: LG cameraphone = the same one I have perhaps? |
| 17:40.10 | QBFreak | quite possibly, there's no model number on the outside of it |
| 17:40.11 | macnewbold | there are some decent rings that are classical music on mine |
| 17:40.15 | macnewbold | yeah, mine either |
| 17:40.25 | QBFreak | vx5200 |
| 17:40.41 | macnewbold | yeah, I think tha'ts mine too |
| 17:40.44 | QBFreak | I think the only music on this one is "When the Saints Go Marching In" |
| 17:40.45 | macnewbold | or close to that |
| 17:40.57 | macnewbold | ah, yes... that one is _terrible_ beyond belief |
| 17:41.00 | QBFreak | the rest are...I don't even know |
| 17:41.04 | macnewbold | you can always buy some rings with "get it now" |
| 17:41.25 | QBFreak | yeah, but that costs money |
| 17:41.49 | QBFreak | I just spent $40 to get a car charger and my contacts transfered |
| 17:41.53 | findlay | if music as a high art still existed today, I wonder what music composers would write for cell phones |
| 17:42.00 | macnewbold | one of mine is a mozart symphony or minuet or something, that's the one I settled on. it's ring #8 |
| 17:42.15 | QBFreak | I'll look again, I think mine stopped at 7 |
| 17:42.16 | macnewbold | they have rings for like $2 I think |
| 17:42.24 | macnewbold | it might be a different model than mine |
| 17:42.55 | Kuyaedz | I hate ringtones. Phones should simply ring like they've always done |
| 17:42.56 | QBFreak | ah that one, I didn't care for it either |
| 17:43.01 | QBFreak | exactly! |
| 17:43.16 | QBFreak | my last phone did, and I used the poor thing until it was pretty much unusable |
| 17:43.29 | goozbach | here's an idea: |
| 17:43.30 | Kuyaedz | mine is on silent 90% of the time or its on just a standard ring. |
| 17:43.35 | goozbach | put your phone on vibrate |
| 17:44.00 | macnewbold | half the time I don't feel mine vibrating... |
| 17:44.29 | QBFreak | being on my feet and moving all day at work I tend to not feel it |
| 17:44.36 | QBFreak | my last phone did 3 vibrating rings before the audible ones, that was nice |
| 17:45.04 | QBFreak | this one may not reboot mid-call or loose service for no reason, but it sucks anyway :) |
| 17:45.22 | Kuyaedz | I always feel mine vibrate.. |
| 17:46.05 | QBFreak | I didn't really want a flip phone either, but I guess thats whats popular now |
| 17:46.09 | QBFreak | and free is free |
| 17:46.18 | macnewbold | yep |
| 17:46.24 | macnewbold | and sometimes you get exactly what you pay for :) |
| 17:46.30 | Kuyaedz | I've never paid for a phone. I think, for what you pay monthly, they should provide you with one |
| 17:46.31 | QBFreak | I need to get a belt clip, I don't have free pockets when working |
| 17:46.46 | macnewbold | the one I got wasn't free at the time, but was like $25 I think |
| 17:46.50 | QBFreak | my last one was $40, this was part of a buy one get three free deal |
| 17:46.57 | goozbach | macnewbold: put it on vibrate, then put it into the front pocket of your jeans, jeans with deep pockets |
| 17:47.02 | macnewbold | they of course want $20 for the holster/beltclip thingy |
| 17:47.02 | goozbach | you'll feel it |
| 17:47.06 | QBFreak | both are bottom-of-the-barrel near as I can tell |
| 17:47.19 | QBFreak | oh yeah, I paid an outrageous amount for mine |
| 17:47.24 | goozbach | and you'll like it |
| 17:47.27 | QBFreak | and now I can't use it cause I have a new phone... |
| 17:47.31 | macnewbold | my jeans pockets are already too full, and it takes me too long to get the phone out, and I always hit too many buttons pulling it out... |
| 17:47.48 | Kuyaedz | lock keys? |
| 17:47.49 | macnewbold | I've got a little pouch I bought for mine that they wouldn't let me return |
| 17:48.06 | macnewbold | if you want it, it's yours, if I can find it |
| 17:48.25 | QBFreak | does it attach to a belt? |
| 17:48.43 | levi_ | I love flip phones. No inadvertent button presses, and I can answer it without looking! |
| 17:49.07 | QBFreak | levi_: thats why you lock the keypad and memorize where 'send' is :p |
| 17:49.37 | QBFreak | I'm afraid I'll break this t hing, my last one has gouges in the face from bumping it into things |
| 17:52.47 | QBFreak | I wonder if the radio shack thats closing would have a clip left, what is left is cheap |
| 17:54.04 | Kuyaedz | Hmm.. I setup a print server for a client but he's telling me it wont print anything from ACAD. |
| 17:54.11 | macnewbold | QBFreak: yeah, the pouch I have does |
| 17:54.19 | QBFreak | nice |
| 17:54.29 | levi_ | QBFreak: No, locking keys and memorizing where buttons are suck. |
| 17:54.45 | QBFreak | why? it unlocks while you're in a call |
| 17:55.09 | macnewbold | my send buttons have always had a distinctive feel to them, like many keyboards have on the F and J keys |
| 17:55.14 | macnewbold | so you don't need to memorize |
| 17:55.51 | sjansen | ~banana goozbach |
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| 17:56.08 | sjansen | ~lick pmcnabb |
| 17:56.09 | ibot | ACTION licks pmcnabb *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 17:56.30 | goozbach | ohh banana.... |
| 17:56.34 | pmcnabb | hello to you, too |
| 17:56.38 | goozbach | how kinkyy |
| 17:57.18 | levi_ | Flip phones just feel better. :P |
| 17:57.31 | sjansen | ~flip levi_ |
| 17:57.34 | goozbach | "erotic: using a feather. exotic: using the whole chicken." |
| 17:58.00 | vontrapp | QBFreak: i just got a new phone last week from tmobile, motorola v360, it was free :) |
| 17:58.14 | vontrapp | and it has a memory card and usb cable, works as usb mass storage |
| 17:58.19 | QBFreak | nice |
| 17:58.30 | vontrapp | and so i can have doctor who for a ring tone |
| 17:58.36 | sjansen | vontrapp: yes, but does it include solitaire? |
| 17:58.44 | vontrapp | nope :[ |
| 17:58.59 | vontrapp | jeez sjansen, you just gotta ruin everything, don't you? |
| 17:59.13 | sjansen | ~ruin vontrapp |
| 17:59.14 | QBFreak | recording my own ring tones would work, I'd record the old phone... :) |
| 18:00.12 | vontrapp | it seems like included ring tones are getting dumber and worser |
| 18:00.23 | vontrapp | maybe cause they want to make you buy new ones |
| 18:02.11 | vontrapp | and then those suck, too |
| 18:03.28 | vontrapp | the ring of those old rotary phones with the mechanical bell |
| 18:04.45 | QBFreak | http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorial/Port-O-Rotary/portable-rotary.htm |
| 18:04.49 | brac | [Spark Fun Electronics] |
| 18:06.29 | sjansen | ~egg maquis |
| 18:06.49 | macnewbold | those are very cool |
| 18:07.08 | sjansen | ~happy fun ball |
| 18:07.10 | ibot | i heard happy fun ball is don't taunt happy fun ball |
| 18:09.06 | sjansen | http://johnny.ihackstuff.com/index.php?module=prodreviews |
| 18:09.23 | brac | [johnny.ihackstuff.com :: I'm j0hnny. I hack stuff.] |
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| 18:14.55 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 18:15.09 | sjansen | ~greet TimRiker |
| 18:15.10 | ibot | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on TimRiker |
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| 18:20.12 | TimRiker | sjansen: ooh. thanx. how was the bbq? |
| 18:20.27 | *** topic/#utah by TimRiker -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See openclue.org/ut, sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com, utaug.org |
| 18:21.52 | Kuyaedz | TimRiker: could you please add ubuntu-utah.org to that list for our Ubuntu LUG? |
| 18:24.19 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See openclue.org/ut, sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com, utaug.org, ubuntu-utah.org |
| 18:25.04 | Kuyaedz | Thank you. Always working on LUG exposure |
| 18:25.15 | sjansen | ~expose Kuyaedz |
| 18:25.30 | Kuyaedz | eek |
| 18:28.24 | Kuyaedz | TimRiker: we'd also love to get ibot into our channel if possible. #ubuntu-utah |
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| 18:37.24 | Kuyaedz | QBFreak: invite no worky? |
| 18:39.07 | QBFreak | well, once I looked I saw why, wasn't an op so I couldn't /invite |
| 18:39.18 | QBFreak | have you tried inviting ibot? :) |
| 18:39.28 | Kuyaedz | I haven't.. didn't know it was that simple :) |
| 18:39.33 | Kuyaedz | just /invite ibot? |
| 18:39.41 | goozbach | yup |
| 18:39.54 | QBFreak | you may need a channel name, /invite ibot #ubuntu-utah |
| 18:41.07 | Kuyaedz | not working.. |
| 18:41.20 | Kuyaedz | ./msg chanserv HELP INVITE is confusing |
| 18:41.47 | Kuyaedz | invites the sender? I invite myself to a channel? |
| 18:42.24 | QBFreak | ibot may be configured to not join on invite |
| 18:43.06 | QBFreak | the chanserv invite is something different |
| 18:43.22 | Kuyaedz | yeah.. would be cool to get him in there. We've got an eggbot, but he's not the same |
| 18:43.39 | QBFreak | I think ibot is a she |
| 18:44.36 | goozbach | ~gender |
| 18:44.40 | ibot | I'm hermaphroditic |
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| 18:45.00 | goozbach | QBFreak: you're somewhat right :) |
| 18:45.46 | QBFreak | anyway, work time, laters |
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| 19:00.55 | HoneyShiv | ta-da! |
| 19:01.30 | ^Migs^ | whoa, it's HoneyShiv. Hey everone! HoneyShiv is here!!! ZOMG!!!!! |
| 19:01.55 | HoneyShiv | uhm... who are you in real life? |
| 19:02.07 | Kuyaedz-FC5 | lol thats quite an entrance |
| 19:02.17 | HoneyShiv | :) |
| 19:02.19 | ^Migs^ | that's a weird thing to ask a stranger |
| 19:02.39 | ^Migs^ | rather rude, too, I might add |
| 19:02.48 | HoneyShiv | i know... secret identities and all |
| 19:03.08 | ^Migs^ | it has nothing to do with secret identities. It has to do with you being freak. |
| 19:03.14 | HoneyShiv | i just wanted to know if I met you on sat |
| 19:03.24 | ^Migs^ | me? |
| 19:03.28 | HoneyShiv | yeah |
| 19:03.31 | ^Migs^ | I don't know. Do you have furiously bushy eyebrows? |
| 19:03.41 | HoneyShiv | no way! |
| 19:03.47 | ^Migs^ | then I don't remember you |
| 19:03.52 | HoneyShiv | lol- fine |
| 19:03.55 | ^Migs^ | why do you think we might have met on Saturday? |
| 19:04.04 | Kuyaedz-FC5 | probably talking about the BBQ |
| 19:04.09 | ^Migs^ | what BBQ? |
| 19:04.10 | HoneyShiv | yup |
| 19:04.17 | Kuyaedz-FC5 | the interLUG BBQ.. |
| 19:04.20 | ^Migs^ | oh |
| 19:04.30 | ^Migs^ | I don't attend LUGs. |
| 19:04.51 | HoneyShiv | sorry I assumed... |
| 19:04.57 | ^Migs^ | well it was an unwarranted assumption. |
| 19:05.13 | HoneyShiv | very true |
| 19:05.18 | atoponce | yeah. he *SHOULD* attend the oalug meets, but won't unless hot chicks are there |
| 19:05.21 | ^Migs^ | most people here, I imagine, never attend lugs |
| 19:05.29 | atoponce | :) |
| 19:05.38 | HoneyShiv | well I'm a chick and I attended... |
| 19:05.38 | ^Migs^ | now, I never said that. |
| 19:05.59 | atoponce | if only /lastlog would go back that far... ;) |
| 19:06.07 | Kuyaedz-FC5 | hehe |
| 19:08.17 | Kuyaedz-FC5 | note to self: use canned air with proper ventilation next time |
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| 19:13.25 | levi_ | I should go to the BBQ next time there is one. I had other stuff going on this time, though. |
| 19:13.56 | Kuyaedz | It was a lot of fun & great food |
| 19:15.12 | levi_ | I went to one a couple of years ago just to get rid of some computer junk. Unsurprisingly, no one wanted to buy the stuff that was worth anything, and no one wanted the free junk either. :) |
| 19:15.39 | Kuyaedz | We threw away a ton of contributed stuff. Even an old mini-fridge of a server |
| 19:17.32 | Kuyaedz | took four of us to lift. Who brought that anyway? I forgot |
| 19:18.48 | HoneyShiv | guys- I just had a massage (by a professional) and pizza- how much better could a work day go?! |
| 19:19.17 | levi_ | Where do you work?! |
| 19:19.29 | HoneyShiv | hehehe wouldn't you like to know?! |
| 19:19.50 | levi_ | Indeed, else I wouldn't have asked. ;P |
| 19:19.56 | levi_ | I get free drinks, though. |
| 19:20.12 | HoneyShiv | yeah.. that's worth it ;) |
| 19:20.55 | goozbach | ohh monday massage |
| 19:20.57 | goozbach | I should look into that |
| 19:21.30 | HoneyShiv | the company pays this girl to come once a week and massage people and she has to get a receptionist while she's here- so today was my turn! |
| 19:21.31 | levi_ | We have a catered lunch one Friday per month, too. |
| 19:21.50 | HoneyShiv | ooh that would be nice |
| 19:22.35 | ^Migs^ | that's a GREAT perk |
| 19:22.43 | ^Migs^ | what company is this, HoneyShiv? |
| 19:22.52 | HoneyShiv | Prosper Learning |
| 19:23.02 | HoneyShiv | it's in the riverwoods in Provo |
| 19:23.06 | levi_ | And bagels & donuts for breakfast every Friday. Mmm. |
| 19:23.16 | levi_ | What's Prosper Learning do? |
| 19:24.21 | HoneyShiv | it's a mentoring group, if you want to learn how to get into real estate or stock market or internet business... etc, we provide the coach |
| 19:24.21 | harleypig | oh man ... swim to failure ... ow ow ow |
| 19:24.21 | harleypig | *gurgle* |
| 19:25.24 | levi_ | harleypig: Swimming to failure sounds a little more dangerous than lifting to failure. How do you get a spotter in the pool? |
| 19:26.18 | harleypig | heh ... you look for a cute chick ... |
| 19:26.25 | levi_ | HoneyShiv: Interesting. I've been curious for a while what the incentive for a successful real estate investor to take on 'apprentices' is after seeing lots of ads around to that effect. |
| 19:26.44 | goozbach | levi_: you go to a pool with cute lifeguards |
| 19:26.52 | goozbach | and gurgle at the bottom of the deep end |
| 19:26.53 | harleypig | well, my arms will give out before my legs will |
| 19:27.05 | goozbach | harleypig: roll over and float |
| 19:27.12 | goozbach | you have enough ballast |
| 19:27.14 | goozbach | :) |
| 19:27.37 | harleypig | Then I'll get cries of "Thar she blows!" and "Ready the harpoon!" |
| 19:28.45 | levi_ | I've done cycling to exhaustion before. The downside is that it becomes difficult to get to your destination if you reach exhaustion at the bottom of a hill. |
| 19:29.29 | mrpull- | levi_: the real estate people want apprentices for their credit |
| 19:29.38 | mrpull- | apprentices in quotes |
| 19:31.07 | levi_ | Ahh, I figured it might be something like that. |
| 19:31.35 | mrpull- | levi_: and it isn't all bad... they do share the money |
| 19:31.44 | mrpull- | but that is one motivator |
| 19:32.11 | mrpull- | haven't you seen the signs that say "I can turn your 700 credit score into a million dollars"? |
| 19:32.13 | mrpull- | same deal |
| 19:32.52 | HoneyShiv | levi_: actually the coaches here can not do any personal/business with the students... they don't "get" anything but what the company pays them... |
| 19:33.11 | levi_ | I've got a (possibly irrational, haven't examined it too deeply) dislike of real estate investment in general. |
| 19:33.44 | HoneyShiv | really? people are looking at it now as a "fast cash" solution |
| 19:33.53 | HoneyShiv | it's getting crazy |
| 19:34.04 | Kuyaedz | Yeah, and 'fast cash solutions' never work |
| 19:34.18 | levi_ | That's probably /why/ I don't like it. |
| 19:34.44 | levi_ | Kuyaedz: They do work, though, for at least some people. |
| 19:34.48 | redbeard1 | tristanbob: you around? |
| 19:34.57 | levi_ | But they are not sustainable. |
| 19:35.01 | HoneyShiv | isn't he in vegas? |
| 19:35.15 | Kuyaedz | a lot of people do make money in Real Estate, but people looking to get rich quick doing it are suckers |
| 19:35.19 | levi_ | Some people get rich, but it's at the expense of others in some way or another. |
| 19:35.20 | HoneyShiv | I can see money in it only if you flip property- |
| 19:37.14 | redbeard1 | vegas? what the heck? |
| 19:37.22 | HoneyShiv | but in california there is going to be alot of foreclosures coming up this year because of the type of mortgage they have just increased their interest a ton... so if you are ok with making money off of a foreclosure... |
| 19:40.22 | tensai | o/~ broken bottles under childrens feet. bottles strewn across the dead end street. ~/o |
| 19:40.25 | tensai | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 19:57.01 | sjansen | HoneyShiv != tensai? |
| 19:57.43 | Kuyaedz | HoneyShiv != tensai |
| 19:57.49 | sjansen | ~shiv HoneyShiv |
| 19:57.52 | sjansen | ~stab tensai |
| 19:57.53 | ibot | ACTION runs at tensai with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 19:58.11 | sjansen | Looks like ibot hasn't done any prison time yet. |
| 19:59.05 | Kuyaedz | ibot: honeyshiv |
| 19:59.06 | ibot | i guess honeyshiv is Kuyaedz ultimate weapon is Carcassonne |
| 19:59.34 | HoneyShiv | :) |
| 19:59.54 | sjansen | ibot: shiv $Jayce is <action> sharpens a plastic butter knife then stabs $Jayce |
| 19:59.55 | ibot | okay, sjansen |
| 20:00.04 | sjansen | ~shiv emcnabb |
| 20:00.06 | ibot | ACTION sharpens a plastic butter knife then stabs $Jayce |
| 20:00.23 | goozbach | so close! |
| 20:00.41 | emcnabb | ~shiv sjansen |
| 20:00.42 | ibot | ACTION sharpens a plastic butter knife then stabs $Jayce |
| 20:00.48 | sjansen | ~shiv emcnabb |
| 20:00.49 | ibot | ACTION sharpens a plastic butter knife then stabs emcnabb |
| 20:01.54 | tensai | sjansen: ibot doesn't grok upper-case |
| 20:01.56 | sjansen | There can be only one cedwards. Mine brain can't handle any more. HoneyShiv, tensai, the two of you are just going to have to deathmatch right here, right now. |
| 20:02.16 | Kuyaedz | looks like there are 3 cedwards then.. add me to that list |
| 20:02.33 | maquis | ~lick sjansen |
| 20:02.34 | ibot | ACTION licks sjansen *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 20:02.34 | sjansen | Oh my. |
| 20:02.45 | maquis | ~lick emcnabb |
| 20:02.47 | ibot | ACTION licks emcnabb *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 20:03.01 | sjansen | Kuyaedz: Now look what you did, you made me leak brain goo all over my keyboard. |
| 20:03.18 | tensai | sjansen: technically, I'm a tensai so quit yer belly-achin' |
| 20:03.20 | goozbach | ~lick sjansen's brain goo |
| 20:03.21 | ibot | ACTION licks sjansen's brain goo *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 20:03.25 | Kuyaedz | sjansen: so sorry |
| 20:03.36 | maquis | ewwww!!!! |
| 20:03.40 | maquis | ibot: that's nasty! |
| 20:04.42 | tensai | maquis: you've been awful quiet of late. you feelin' okay? |
| 20:04.55 | maquis | tensai: i haven't been around that much recently |
| 20:04.59 | maquis | and classes have been very busy |
| 20:07.36 | goozbach | and the boyfriend takes up a great deal of time too... |
| 20:07.40 | goozbach | right? |
| 20:07.42 | sjansen | tensai: No, because I met you physically after meeting you electronically, you are half Corey Edwards, half tensai. Kinda like goozbach/Derek. |
| 20:07.42 | goozbach | :D |
| 20:08.07 | goozbach | I'm a goozbach first! |
| 20:08.09 | goozbach | see |
| 20:08.25 | goozbach | I'll even respond to it before I'll respond to Derek |
| 20:10.05 | maquis | goozbach: true... |
| 20:10.31 | sjansen | ~lick goo |
| 20:10.33 | ibot | ACTION licks goo *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 20:10.42 | maquis | ~dog sjansen |
| 20:10.43 | ibot | ACTION stares at sjansen until sjansen whimpers and pees all over himself. |
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| 20:12.42 | maquis | ~lart stuporglue |
| 20:13.58 | stuporglue | How do I install kernel headers on CentOS 2.1 (RHEL AS 2.1)? |
| 20:14.21 | goozbach | up2date -i kernel-headers |
| 20:15.01 | stuporglue | cool...installing up2date |
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| 20:15.08 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 20:15.54 | Kuyaedz | how have I never noticed you in IRC stuporglue? |
| 20:16.40 | stuporglue | goozbach: Do I have to pay for a redhat account to use up2date? |
| 20:16.52 | goozbach | with Cent, no |
| 20:17.30 | goozbach | yum install -- woulda worked as well |
| 20:17.36 | tyce | anyone in here still use an apple newton? |
| 20:20.22 | Kuyaedz | anyone use Xfce? |
| 20:20.27 | sjansen | I saw an Apple Newton once. |
| 20:20.30 | stuporglue | yum install kernel-headers says the latest version is installed, but they're not in /usr/src wonder where they went... |
| 20:20.43 | sjansen | rpm -ql kernel-headers |
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| 20:24.58 | emcnabb | I used to have a Newton; I wish I wouldn't have given it away |
| 20:25.54 | tyce | just wondering if there are any terminal services (like hyperterm) for it |
| 20:26.27 | Kuyaedz | is there a way to limit the NickServ & freenode windows when connecting via Gaim? |
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| 20:30.03 | sjansen | Don't use Gaim. All the cool kids use XChat2 with UTF-8 encoding. |
| 20:30.17 | maquis | nah... the cool kids use irssi |
| 20:30.31 | sjansen | maquis: They lied to you. |
| 20:30.57 | maquis | -lart sjansen |
| 20:34.46 | stuporglue | All the google results say I need to install the kernel-devel package in CentOS to build the VMware tools, but I can't find a mirror with kernel-devel in it |
| 20:36.22 | tene | kernel-devel-2.6.15 |
| 20:36.23 | sjansen | stuporglue: IIRC, that's only true of newer releases. |
| 20:36.37 | sjansen | You said you were using CentOS 2.1? |
| 20:36.57 | stuporglue | I see. Yeah, 2.1. Do you know where to get the sources for this version? |
| 20:36.59 | tene | oslt |
| 20:37.10 | TimRiker | can only invite the bot into channels he is allowed to join in the local config. |
| 20:38.05 | Kuyaedz | TimRiker: figured that was the case |
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| 20:38.38 | sjansen | renice -20 -u TimRiker |
| 20:39.06 | TimRiker | ~renice sjansen |
| 20:39.07 | ibot | ACTION lowers sjansen's priority again |
| 20:40.28 | sjansen | h |
| 20:41.04 | sjansen | e |
| 20:42.04 | sjansen | y |
| 20:42.12 | harleypig | AGGHHHH!!! |
| 20:42.27 | maquis | gah!!!! |
| 20:42.28 | harleypig | Anyone familiar with RASync wireless ? |
| 20:42.39 | harleypig | Did I make you jump? :> |
| 20:42.40 | sjansen | ! |
| 20:42.44 | findlay | SPEW!!!! |
| 20:43.54 | harleypig | hrm ... RAlink |
| 20:43.58 | harleypig | not RASync |
| 20:51.51 | findlay | ~puke!!! |
| 20:59.58 | harleypig | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39s7U46QIK0%26search=fat%2520guy |
| 21:00.02 | harleypig | Enjoy! |
| 21:00.04 | harleypig | It's not me |
| 21:02.01 | tensai | why do I not expect I would enjoy that? |
| 21:02.53 | sjansen | tensai: Because of bad tab karma. |
| 21:03.22 | findlay | ~karma tab |
| 21:03.22 | ibot | tab has neutral karma |
| 21:03.28 | findlay | ~karma tab tensai |
| 21:03.28 | ibot | tab tensai has neutral karma |
| 21:03.33 | findlay | hm |
| 21:03.53 | tensai | *pop*, ~fizz~. mmm, Tab(tm) |
| 21:04.56 | levi_ | Tab is for Teachers. |
| 21:12.48 | mrpull- | Tab. Seriously? |
| 21:17.07 | findlay | what's the easiest way to pass a hash to a perl sub? |
| 21:18.02 | Jayce^ | findlay, by reference, or just pass the hash |
| 21:18.16 | Jayce^ | foo( \%hash ); |
| 21:18.37 | findlay | but how do I access it from the sub that's been called? |
| 21:19.39 | Jayce^ | sub foo { my $hash = shift; $value = $hash->{'key'} } |
| 21:20.02 | findlay | is there a %_, then? |
| 21:20.38 | harleypig | you could also do foo( %hash ) and in the sub foo { %h = @_ } |
| 21:20.55 | harleypig | but that isn't really recommended except on single argument calls. |
| 21:21.09 | harleypig | findlay: no %_ that is in the core. |
| 21:21.18 | harleypig | eww .. that was bad grammer |
| 21:21.24 | harleypig | that was bad speling |
| 21:21.26 | harleypig | I give up |
| 21:21.27 | levi_ | harleypig: Did you ever get a good grasp on the Y combinator? |
| 21:21.49 | harleypig | The concept yes, the actual code, no. It's still percolating. |
| 21:22.10 | harleypig | I'm not worried .. it took me a solid 3 months to truly grasp recursion. (I was self taught) |
| 21:22.17 | findlay | what do you have to do when you need to jumpstart the core? |
| 21:22.31 | goozbach | ~seen fozzmoo |
| 21:22.43 | ibot | fozzmoo <n=fozz@65.89.234.66> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 3d 22m 42s ago, saying: 'We do the same thing. It's awful.'. |
| 21:22.43 | levi_ | harleypig: Well, once you get that figured out, you'll have to tackle continuations. |
| 21:22.44 | harleypig | bomb the center of the earth multiple times. |
| 21:22.55 | harleypig | that's one way to jumpstart the core. |
| 21:25.03 | harleypig | of course, another way would be to get everyone jumping in a wave movement around the earth in sync. |
| 21:26.39 | findlay | and the frequency would be stored in %_{'earth_mechanical_resonance'} |
| 21:26.44 | findlay | naturally |
| 21:27.55 | sjansen | http://www.parenthacks.com/2006/06/how_to_dry_out_.html |
| 21:28.31 | mrpull- | sjansen: I wouldn't think of you as a parenthacks kinda guy |
| 21:29.12 | mrpull- | that guy hasn't learned the art of the decoy phone |
| 21:29.59 | mrpull- | kids are smart tho. mine could tell the difference between the decoy and the real thing starting at about 3 months. |
| 21:30.03 | sjansen | Actually, I'm not. I found the link through lifehacks and thought it was funny enough to pass on. |
| 21:33.31 | findlay | maybe there's an earthhacks.com entry on 26 ways to jumpstart the core |
| 21:35.48 | findlay | I bet there's at least one way that involves penguins |
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| 21:44.58 | findlay | excellent |
| 21:45.11 | findlay | ~hug perl |
| 21:45.16 | ibot | ACTION hugs perl |
| 21:47.01 | sjansen | ~hug ruby |
| 21:47.03 | ibot | ACTION hugs ruby |
| 21:47.11 | sjansen | ~dropkick perl |
| 21:47.12 | ibot | ACTION sends perl flying like a yipping chihuahua |
| 21:50.02 | sjansen | ~dog python |
| 21:50.03 | ibot | ACTION stares at python until python whimpers and pees all over himself. |
| 21:50.06 | sjansen | ~bury php |
| 21:50.07 | ibot | ibot dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on php |
| 21:55.31 | findlay | ~c++ sjansen |
| 21:56.12 | tensai | ~stripslashes sjansen |
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| 21:58.18 | sjansen | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~ |
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| 22:08.18 | RyanE | I was just thinking *this morning* "wow, it's been a long time since we've had a flamewar on PLUG". Jinxed it. |
| 22:08.25 | Kuyaedz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1DNHOdsYLA&search=jack%20links |
| 22:08.48 | RyanE | but I never would've guessed it'd be tabs vs. spaces and ideal tab widths. |
| 22:13.49 | mrpull- | why is 8 spaces the ideal tab width? historical reasons? |
| 22:14.26 | sjansen | yup, pretty much |
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| 22:14.56 | mrpull- | 8 seems too wide for my taste (esp for python) |
| 22:15.03 | tensai | 8 *is* too wide |
| 22:15.03 | sjansen | By definition, tabs are 8 spaces. When you start changing the width of a tab, you start getting into trouble. Better to just uses spaces. |
| 22:15.24 | mrpull- | sjansen: by who's definition? |
| 22:15.26 | sjansen | That's why you set a shiftwidth of 4 and expand tabs into spaces. |
| 22:15.31 | Kuyaedz | http://christer.pastebin.com/719638 |
| 22:15.35 | tensai | ~lart spaces |
| 22:15.46 | Kuyaedz | someone take a look at that & help me get this external USB HDD mounted? |
| 22:15.53 | sjansen | mrpull-: ASCII probably |
| 22:16.04 | findlay | just use a non fixed-width font. That'll solve all your problems |
| 22:16.46 | mrpull- | sjansen: ASCII? |
| 22:16.50 | Kuyaedz | is it not mounting because its not formatted/partitioned? |
| 22:16.50 | sjansen | The point is, most tools assume that tab stops are 8 spaces wide. |
| 22:17.22 | mrpull- | sjansen: what tools care? |
| 22:17.40 | findlay | the 8:1 ratio is metaphoric of the bytes:bits ratio, and signifies the maximum rate of the precession of the moon |
| 22:17.52 | sjansen | simple text editor, various command line tools |
| 22:17.57 | findlay | simillarly with the nibble:bit ratio |
| 22:18.00 | mrpull- | findlay: good one :) |
| 22:18.31 | findlay | tab == byte of spaces |
| 22:18.58 | mrpull- | findlay: i'm sure that is what typewriter people had in mind |
| 22:19.43 | findlay | definitely |
| 22:20.07 | vontrapp | is there a javascript event that's fired on a text field when the enter key is pressed? |
| 22:20.18 | mrpull- | how many spaces did typewriters use for tabs by default? |
| 22:20.32 | findlay | 1/2 inch I guess |
| 22:20.46 | RyanE | depends on what the tabstops were set to |
| 22:20.55 | RyanE | user-configurable, even back then. |
| 22:21.00 | findlay | it wasn't spaces as much back then as it was inches, points, and picas, I think |
| 22:21.53 | RyanE | most typewriters were fixed-point devices, and tab stops were set in inches, not space widths. |
| 22:22.10 | RyanE | at least all the manual / electrics I ever used. |
| 22:23.03 | Jayce^ | careful RyanE, you're dating yourself.. |
| 22:23.33 | RyanE | I think my head does that pretty well for itself. |
| 22:23.34 | RyanE | :) |
| 22:24.01 | RyanE | My typing class had 4 IBM selectrics, the other 25 machines were manual typewriters. |
| 22:24.12 | RyanE | of course, this was 7th grade, so it's been a good while. |
| 22:25.24 | Kuyaedz | can someone tell me the purpose of the lost+found folder on a newly partitioned/formatted drive? |
| 22:26.39 | RyanE | http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/lostfound.html |
| 22:26.57 | findlay | Kuyaedz: I think the mkfs.<fs> command creates it |
| 22:27.12 | findlay | but I don't know for sure |
| 22:27.38 | Kuyaedz | I just partitioned/formatted a 4G drive & its showing 192M used and the only thing there is lost+found |
| 22:28.05 | findlay | maybe it has APIs into the Fates and can predict that the partition will have problems, so it makes it |
| 22:28.14 | findlay | what FS? |
| 22:28.20 | sjansen | There's overhead associated with any filesystem. That's probably the space, not lost+found. |
| 22:28.27 | Kuyaedz | ext3 |
| 22:28.48 | sjansen | In the case of *nix filesystems, google terms like superblock and inode to learn more. |
| 22:28.51 | Kuyaedz | is another more efficient on space? |
| 22:29.00 | sjansen | Yes. |
| 22:29.07 | sjansen | But less widely supported. |
| 22:29.33 | findlay | weird. I usually get about 0.002 usage by ext3 |
| 22:29.51 | findlay | when you set up a new, blank partition |
| 22:29.56 | Kuyaedz | should I use reiserfs or xfs instead? |
| 22:29.56 | sjansen | There are filesystems targetted at embedded devices that have less overhead and avoid writes (you have a limited number of writes to flash devices before they die). |
| 22:30.20 | sjansen | Probably not. |
| 22:30.53 | Kuyaedz | I'm going to use this as a semi-portable (full-size hdd in usb enable casing) storage. |
| 22:31.45 | Kuyaedz | reiserfs says 32M used after format. That's tons better |
| 22:32.31 | RyanE | not exactly *tons*, esp. compared to the 4G. |
| 22:32.43 | Kuyaedz | xfs shows 10M used |
| 22:32.53 | RyanE | and reiser and XFS have other tradeoffs. |
| 22:33.16 | sjansen | One difference is that they'll slowly grow over time as they allocate more inodes. |
| 22:35.04 | Kuyaedz | ;) |
| 22:35.09 | RyanE | superior if you're connecting the temp drive to Windows only... |
| 22:36.49 | sjansen | Arguable, ext3/reiserfs/xfs only work with Linux. |
| 22:36.49 | findlay | why not fat12? |
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| 22:36.59 | Kuyaedz | I'll just stick with ext3 I guess |
| 22:37.06 | findlay | fat2? |
| 22:37.29 | Kuyaedz | I don't plan on taking this out of my office & we're all Linux here.. |
| 22:38.38 | Kuyaedz | It'll probably end up parked to a machine & shared over nfs |
| 22:40.04 | sjansen | All the cool kids have abandoned nfs, they use emcnabbfs instead. |
| 22:40.39 | Supaplex | bah, filesystems are for the weak of mind. |
| 22:40.40 | findlay | nah, AoE |
| 22:40.49 | findlay | AFS |
| 22:41.52 | findlay | everyone who knows what's going on uses SjansenTP for traversing the internet |
| 22:45.49 | xbmodder_newlapp | ~seen mheath |
| 22:45.59 | ibot | mheath is currently on #utah (48m 52s), last said: 'xbmodder_newlapp, ?'. |
| 22:46.39 | harleypig | :P |
| 22:48.24 | findlay | ~sell xbmodder_newlapp |
| 22:48.44 | xbmodder_newlapp | ~lart findlay |
| 22:49.40 | harleypig | ~lart Giggles the Clown |
| 22:50.00 | harleypig | ~lart Ouchy The Clown |
| 22:50.06 | harleypig | not so good |
| 22:51.17 | harleypig | ~lart Grouchy Old Fart |
| 22:51.36 | harleypig | This isn't satisfying enough ... I need a FPS version of IRC |
| 22:53.00 | harleypig | 122 67 |
| 22:54.32 | levi_ | harleypig: You want a MUD? :) |
| 22:55.04 | harleypig | levi_: naw ... I get hooked on those too easy ... especially since someone came out with an easily scriptable client. |
| 22:56.40 | harleypig | ummm ... kildclient |
| 22:56.44 | harleypig | hmmm .... |
| 22:56.48 | harleypig | is there a local mud? |
| 22:58.39 | tensai | no. they were all banned after the operators were jailed during the Great MUD Sting of '03 |
| 22:59.27 | mrpull- | a #utah mud could be fun |
| 23:00.17 | harleypig | tensai: Sounds like the makings of a good movie. |
| 23:00.36 | harleypig | I've been tempted to make a #utah-idlerpg |
| 23:00.40 | harleypig | but that's not quite the same. |
| 23:01.42 | harleypig | I'm game ... anyone have one at hand ... or one that's simple to set up ... i can run it on my server |
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| 23:05.02 | thenetduck | yo yo what up |
| 23:08.49 | harleypig | FAQ So you want to run a MUD? |
| 23:08.52 | harleypig | If you're already an old hand at playing MUDs and you've decided you want to start one of your own, here's my advice: take a vailum, lie down, and hide in a dark closet until the desire goes away. Just playing MUDs is masochistic enough, isn't it? Or are you trying to shave that extra point off your GPA, jump down that one last notch on your next job evaluation, or get rid of that pesky Significant Other for good? If you think silly distraction |
| 23:09.46 | findlay | ~up |
| 23:09.53 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, up is a vector directed outward from the center of a mass (perpendicularly with respect to the surface of a sphere of equivalent mass with the same center),the perception of such a system, or a vector directed outward from the center of a mass (perpendicularly with respect to the surface of a sphere of equivalent mass with the same ... |
| 23:10.35 | thenetduck | yo can i get some server help here? |
| 23:10.42 | harleypig | ~upyours |
| 23:10.46 | harleypig | thenetduck: what kind? |
| 23:10.49 | thenetduck | right.. |
| 23:11.23 | thenetduck | harleypig, ok i just installed LAMP server (a 8 gb server... ha) anyway, I wanna connect to my server with ssh |
| 23:11.56 | thenetduck | harleypig i went to /etc/network/interfaces and set up my eth0 |
| 23:12.04 | harleypig | ok |
| 23:12.11 | findlay | stupid router arbitrarily reset itself |
| 23:12.24 | thenetduck | and i set it up as a static ip 192.168.2.5 |
| 23:12.35 | thenetduck | but how do i now connection to it? |
| 23:13.15 | harleypig | what happens when you try to connect to that ip? |
| 23:13.59 | thenetduck | well i go to "connect to server" under places and us a ssh connection and then it say's it can't find the "host" 192.168.2.5 |
| 23:14.31 | harleypig | what os are you connecting from? |
| 23:14.33 | Kuyaedz | did you set your machines as static vs DHCP? IP could have changed |
| 23:15.07 | thenetduck | static |
| 23:15.10 | thenetduck | it was a static |
| 23:15.29 | Kuyaedz | double check it. Is it still 2.5? |
| 23:15.29 | harleypig | Kuyaedz: yeah, scroll up a few lines. :] |
| 23:15.36 | harleypig | good point |
| 23:15.43 | harleypig | but what os are you connecting from? |
| 23:15.58 | thenetduck | both ubuntu linux |
| 23:17.03 | thenetduck | Kuyaedz scrool up a few lines?? |
| 23:17.35 | thenetduck | *scroll* |
| 23:18.27 | harleypig | ok ... so, from a command prompt type "ssh 192.168.2.5" and what do you get? |
| 23:22.46 | thenetduck | sorry server is down stairs |
| 23:23.10 | thenetduck | ok i changed it to be static to 2.6 instead ... errr.. and |
| 23:23.14 | harleypig | ? No, what do you get on the computer you're connecting from. |
| 23:23.22 | harleypig | :] and you're connecting? |
| 23:23.35 | Kuyaedz | thenetduck: connect from the PC you're on to the server downstairs. What happens |
| 23:24.10 | thenetduck | nothing it just blinks |
| 23:24.22 | thenetduck | doh! |
| 23:24.22 | Kuyaedz | from the command line: ssh 192.168.2.5 |
| 23:24.23 | thenetduck | on sec |
| 23:24.53 | thenetduck | ok output is this |
| 23:24.54 | thenetduck | ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.6 port 22: No route to host |
| 23:25.48 | harleypig | How are you connected to the server? |
| 23:25.52 | Kuyaedz | .6? .5? |
| 23:25.58 | harleypig | (and is the server up?) |
| 23:25.59 | thenetduck | changed it to connect to .6 |
| 23:26.05 | thenetduck | changed the servers ip to .6 |
| 23:26.11 | thenetduck | im connected threw a router |
| 23:26.24 | thenetduck | maby it's somthing i did wrong in the interfaces file |
| 23:26.29 | findlay | nmap -sP -T4 10.1.0.* |
| 23:26.34 | findlay | oops |
| 23:26.41 | Kuyaedz | thenetduck: pastebin.com your /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 23:26.58 | thenetduck | network doesnt have an gui but ill copy it |
| 23:27.13 | findlay | nmap -sP -T4 192.168.2.* |
| 23:27.25 | thenetduck | hu? |
| 23:27.29 | harleypig | you may have to install nmap |
| 23:27.33 | findlay | nevermind |
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| 23:28.26 | harleypig | heh |
| 23:28.28 | vontrapp | thenetduck: is your routers subnet set to 192.168.2.0/24? |
| 23:28.32 | harleypig | good luck, I've got to go |
| 23:29.06 | vontrapp | e.g. if you were to get an address with dhcp, would it be 192.168.2.xxx |
| 23:29.16 | thenetduck | vontrapp thats correct |
| 23:29.26 | thenetduck | when i nmap it givees me this output |
| 23:29.38 | thenetduck | Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-06-19 17:28 MDT |
| 23:29.38 | thenetduck | Host 192.168.2.1 appears to be up. |
| 23:29.38 | thenetduck | Host 192.168.2.3 appears to be up. |
| 23:29.38 | thenetduck | Host 192.168.2.4 appears to be up. |
| 23:29.38 | thenetduck | Nmap finished: 256 IP addresses (3 hosts up) scanned in 2.400 seconds |
| 23:30.05 | thenetduck | does that mean that there is now host at .6 |
| 23:30.10 | thenetduck | no* |
| 23:30.10 | vontrapp | what is your computer's address upstairs? |
| 23:30.22 | thenetduck | 192.168.2.4 |
| 23:30.33 | thenetduck | and the computer to my left is the .3 one |
| 23:30.35 | vontrapp | is that from dhcp? |
| 23:30.40 | thenetduck | they are all static |
| 23:30.44 | vontrapp | or are they all static, ok |
| 23:31.15 | thenetduck | ill brb im going to go copy down the interfaces file |
| 23:31.17 | vontrapp | did you take down the interface and bring it back up when you changed it in the config? |
| 23:31.31 | thenetduck | what do you mean? |
| 23:31.31 | vontrapp | thenetduck: cat /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:31.35 | thenetduck | i rebotted the computer |
| 23:31.40 | vontrapp | select the relevant portion and paste it |
| 23:32.24 | vontrapp | i think you can just do "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" to restart the network |
| 23:33.25 | Kuyaedz | I just got a letter from eMachines about the class action suite filed against them & my model notebook |
| 23:33.30 | Kuyaedz | looks like I might get some cash |
| 23:34.21 | findlay | heh |
| 23:34.44 | findlay | `sudo service network restart` |
| 23:35.09 | findlay | wait, this isn't a redhat flavored box, I forgot |
| 23:39.37 | thenetduck | ok i just pasted at pastebin |
| 23:39.52 | thenetduck | thats what my interfaces file looks like |
| 23:40.08 | findlay | thenetduck: need URL |
| 23:40.21 | thenetduck | http://pastebin.com/719757 |
| 23:40.44 | Kuyaedz | and is that for your machine or the remote machine you're connection to? |
| 23:41.12 | thenetduck | thats for my server machine |
| 23:46.24 | thenetduck | so that should work right? |
| 23:49.49 | Kuyaedz | link isn't loading for me.. |
| 23:51.03 | Kuyaedz | there it goes.. yeah that looks right |
| 23:52.02 | thenetduck | gree |
| 23:52.28 | thenetduck | well thats just plain stupid ... i wonder why |
| 23:52.29 | findlay | is there a way to do a reverse hash lookup in perl? |
| 23:52.56 | findlay | given $value I want to find $key |
| 23:53.50 | thenetduck | gar |
| 23:54.49 | xbmodder_newlapp | foobar |
| 23:55.09 | pmcnabb | findlay, check perldoc.perl.org/functions/reverse.html |