| 00:00.02 | findlay | yeah that will do it |
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| 00:05.06 | vontrapp | is there some kind of doc/office to text program? take a word processor file and spit it out as a plain text version |
| 00:05.23 | vontrapp | that would be keen |
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| 00:08.02 | xbmodder_ppc | hey |
| 00:08.05 | xbmodder_ppc | nick125 |
| 00:09.40 | xbmodder_ppc | nick |
| 00:09.47 | xbmodder_ppc | nickolodean |
| 00:10.15 | findlay | excellent |
| 00:10.56 | xbmodder_ppc | heh |
| 00:11.50 | xbmodder_ppc | brb |
| 00:12.32 | findlay | let's see how this new kernel works |
| 00:14.52 | xbmodder_ppc | why do people use default passwords even for physical access to over 10k of equipment they use the code of 2_4_6_8 |
| 00:15.16 | xbmodder_ppc | and you can arrange those numbers in any way. |
| 00:15.38 | tristanbob_ | well - at least they are using numbers AND underscore? |
| 00:15.55 | spr | vontrapp, there is one for word files: wv |
| 00:16.41 | xbmodder_ppc | <tristanbob_> the underscore is a character seperater |
| 00:17.15 | vontrapp | trapped in a world before later on... |
| 00:17.26 | xbmodder_ppc | techincally any of these will work: 2468 4286 6824 4826, etc.. |
| 00:19.31 | xbmodder_ppc | you can look up the default combo on the back |
| 00:22.18 | xbmodder_lappy | :-? |
| 00:22.27 | vontrapp | spr: alas, wv doesn't handle stdin |
| 00:22.36 | vontrapp | how braindead |
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| 00:24.09 | xbmodder_lappy | findlay, how is your new kernel? |
| 00:24.34 | findlay | xbmodder_lappy: it's really spiffy |
| 00:24.42 | xbmodder_lappy | cool, what flavor is it? |
| 00:24.43 | findlay | everything just looks happier |
| 00:24.53 | findlay | 2.6.17-rc6 |
| 00:24.58 | xbmodder_lappy | vanilla? |
| 00:25.04 | findlay | yup |
| 00:31.13 | vontrapp | woohoo!! doc attachments text version shows inline in mutt |
| 00:31.38 | findlay | nice |
| 00:31.44 | vontrapp | application/msword; /usr/bin/wvText '%s' /dev/stdout; copiousoutput; description=DOC Text; nametemplate=%s.doc |
| 00:31.50 | findlay | vontrapp: did you have to patch mutt? |
| 00:32.01 | vontrapp | nope, just add that line to mailcap |
| 00:32.25 | findlay | what's wvText? |
| 00:32.34 | vontrapp | wv - Programs for accessing Microsoft Word documents |
| 00:32.45 | vontrapp | wvText is the version that outputs text |
| 00:33.05 | vontrapp | there's wvPDF, wvDVI, etc |
| 00:33.20 | findlay | word view? |
| 00:33.24 | vontrapp | guess so |
| 00:34.07 | findlay | http://wvware.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:34.39 | vontrapp | package 'wv' in debian |
| 00:35.00 | findlay | same in gentoo |
| 00:35.19 | findlay | actually, there's a wv2 as well |
| 00:36.22 | vontrapp | not in debian :( |
| 00:36.27 | vontrapp | what's the difference? |
| 00:36.33 | findlay | don't know |
| 00:36.42 | findlay | it shows the same URL |
| 00:37.37 | findlay | vontrapp: what version number do you get on wv? |
| 00:37.57 | vontrapp | 1.2.1 |
| 00:38.26 | findlay | that's wv |
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| 01:50.13 | nick125_lappy | http://media.putfile.com/AOL-Cancellation < LOL |
| 01:50.17 | brac | [Putfile - AOL Cancellation] |
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| 01:51.28 | vontrapp | grr, my svn hook isn't working |
| 01:52.03 | findlay | maybe you need different bait? |
| 01:56.42 | vontrapp | is there some log somewhere that tells me what the hook is doing or failing? |
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| 06:24.25 | mheath | Oh, thats great! |
| 06:24.48 | mheath | I just stepped on my glasses. Broke them. |
| 06:24.55 | mheath | I don't have enough money for a new pair right now |
| 06:25.02 | mheath | Plus, I can't drive..... |
| 06:25.04 | mheath | I can't work.... |
| 06:25.29 | mheath | And now, I have to get up 3 hours earlier than normal to go down to the optomotrist |
| 06:25.46 | mheath | I worked a double shift today, I work a double shift tomorrow, and I work a double shift on Saturday |
| 06:25.58 | mheath | I was only going to get like 7 hours of sleep tonight. Now I'm getting 4. |
| 06:26.02 | mheath | What a GREAT night! |
| 06:26.05 | mheath | >.> |
| 06:29.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I recommend going to bed quickly ^^ |
| 06:29.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I also recommend doubling your font size |
| 06:30.28 | mheath | ScytheBlade1, I'm near sighted. |
| 06:30.41 | ScytheBlade1 | mheath, never mind then. |
| 06:30.55 | findlay | half your font size, then |
| 06:31.06 | maquis | only 7 hours of sleep? |
| 06:31.10 | maquis | wow... |
| 06:31.19 | maquis | i usually think of that in terms of "7 whole hours of sleep!" |
| 06:31.38 | mheath | maquis, try doing my job for 11 hours |
| 06:31.42 | mheath | Then getting 7 hours of sleep |
| 06:31.45 | mheath | then doing it for 11 more hours |
| 06:31.52 | mheath | then getting 7 hours of sleep |
| 06:31.57 | mheath | Then doing it for another 11 hours. |
| 06:32.24 | maquis | mheath: what exactly makes your job take so much of a toll on you that it makes it really hard on 7 hours of sleep? |
| 06:32.54 | mheath | maquis, dealing with many different things in a multitasking manner, constantly on my feet and constantly moving in a high pressure environment. |
| 06:33.11 | mheath | Heavy lifting too (plates and such) |
| 06:33.31 | mheath | I don't know what I'll do |
| 06:33.46 | xbmodder_newlapp | mheath, where do you work? |
| 06:33.48 | findlay | you can blame it all on your eyesight now |
| 06:33.48 | mheath | I have to be able to see a computer screen -.- |
| 06:33.52 | mheath | its elevated |
| 06:34.00 | mheath | I can barely see it, if I squint hard, when I'm standing right under it |
| 06:34.16 | mheath | To do my job efficiently, I have to be able to see portions of it from accross the room |
| 06:34.51 | mheath | Even if I go up close to it.....try squinting for 11 hours -.- |
| 06:34.53 | maquis | mheath: what'll you do when you get to college, and you get 4 hours of sleep a night, and spend just about every waking moment working on code or something like that... |
| 06:35.08 | mheath | maquis, when I get to college....psh. |
| 06:35.46 | mheath | maquis, in a few months, I will be getting 6 hours of sleep a night (and only because the people in charge of us are required, for medical reasons, to give us that much) |
| 06:36.00 | maquis | mheath: yeah... i understand that... |
| 06:36.04 | mheath | I'll be waken up suddenly to loud noises, and expected to get dressed and be outside in 5 minutes |
| 06:36.15 | maquis | mheath: yeah? so? you're choosing it... |
| 06:37.01 | maquis | my boyfriend is in the army, and so i've heard plenty about the type of thing you're referring to... |
| 06:37.08 | mheath | HAH. |
| 06:37.10 | maquis | he's in the reserves |
| 06:37.19 | maquis | hah what? |
| 06:38.01 | findlay | hah aha |
| 06:38.08 | mheath | maquis, the army has a far, far lower drop out rate from basic training, simply because they focus on reducing stress so they can reduce their stress, suicide, divorce rates. |
| 06:38.30 | mheath | army training is purposly made to be much less stressful than Marine Corp basic |
| 06:38.38 | maquis | mheath: ok... so? |
| 06:39.02 | ScytheBlade1 | no offense mheath, but that does come off somewhat elitist of you, true or not |
| 06:39.11 | maquis | yes, it does |
| 06:39.31 | scottj | ScytheBlade1: all marines feel that way, not just mheath |
| 06:39.41 | maquis | but i'm really not surprised, having seen mheath's comments here for the past 2 years or whatever |
| 06:39.48 | mheath | ScytheBlade1, Your obviously not familiar with the marine corp |
| 06:39.56 | maquis | he has a tendency to talk like that regardless of the topic |
| 06:40.00 | findlay | doesn't matter if mheath sounds elitist. The marines' basic is tougher than anybody elses |
| 06:40.01 | mheath | How many Marines does it take to change a lightbulb? |
| 06:40.13 | mheath | Three. One to change the light bulb, three to issue the press release. |
| 06:40.15 | ScytheBlade1 | mheath, you'd be correct, and likewise in my complete lack of knowledge, that seemed slightly elitist of you ;) |
| 06:40.22 | scottj | anyone here know japanese |
| 06:40.24 | mheath | *two to issue... |
| 06:40.30 | mheath | scottj, Some. |
| 06:40.45 | maquis | scottj: no, but close... |
| 06:40.52 | scottj | mheath, http://www.pfu.fujitsu.com/en/hhkeyboard/leaflet/images/pdkb220b_l.jpg what are the weird keys on that keyboard? |
| 06:40.59 | maquis | i can pick out the characters that are the same as the chinese ones... |
| 06:41.26 | maquis | (and are within my limited chinese knowledge) |
| 06:41.29 | mheath | scottj, most are just computer keys....function key symbols. |
| 06:41.45 | scottj | for switching eng to japanese? |
| 06:41.47 | mheath | (the one next to the left alt, and on either side of the space bar) |
| 06:42.05 | mheath | Those are just...icons. I don't know what they mean. Their not specifically japanese characters, just...icons. |
| 06:42.13 | maquis | i don't see any japanese characters on the keyboard there |
| 06:42.36 | scottj | ok, I realized that, just thoguht maye some standard function key on japanese keyboards |
| 06:42.41 | mheath | The "Kana" key....I've never used a Japanese computer, so I don't know how it works - but presumably, that key would bring up an onscreen keyboard that allows you to enter JApanese characters. |
| 06:44.57 | mheath | scottj, you can't expect to be very many characters of a Japanese keyboard to be Japanese |
| 06:45.27 | mheath | even the phonic alphabets wouldn't fit on a traditional keyboard |
| 06:49.56 | mheath | Goodnight. |
| 07:19.20 | findlay | sweet, gcc-4.1 hides its symbols |
| 07:25.12 | bonez39 | any of you run sql-ledger? |
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| 12:38.25 | goozbach | Jayce^: http://www.duggmirror.com/hardware/Anyone_up_for_paintball_/ |
| 12:38.31 | brac | [Introducing: Der Verteidiger - The Underground Forum] |
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| 13:23.13 | goozbach | BORing |
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| 13:27.05 | goozbach | ~mock fslc.usu.edu |
| 13:27.07 | ibot | ACTION pulls fslc.usu.edu's pants down and shows the world fslc.usu.edu's pink spotted underwear |
| 13:30.36 | emcnabb | ~lart goozbach |
| 13:35.59 | goozbach | emcnabb: get to work |
| 13:36.16 | goozbach | oh, nevermind, you're a LEAD now. |
| 13:36.23 | goozbach | you don't HAVE to work |
| 13:36.26 | goozbach | :) |
| 13:36.40 | goozbach | and FYI #utah... |
| 13:37.04 | goozbach | Big Brother (the monitor) is a hunking pile of crap |
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| 13:41.42 | emcnabb | lead? me? |
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| 13:42.22 | goozbach | ok maybe not |
| 13:42.49 | goozbach | snarg!!! I forgot my bag-o-snacks this morning |
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| 16:52.31 | vontrapp | how do you correct a borked gem? |
| 16:52.57 | vontrapp | this rtaglib gem has at the start of it's extconf.rb "$CFLAGS+=" -WAll " |
| 16:53.24 | vontrapp | well note the A in all is a cap, that borks it |
| 16:53.43 | vontrapp | however fixing the file doesn't work for the next install attempt just downloads the gem afresh |
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| 17:32.24 | Kuyaedz | Hmm.. linux loads but I get a GRUB error if I want to boot to my XP partition |
| 17:33.36 | macnewbold | yeah, it's better that way |
| 17:33.42 | macnewbold | you really don't want to be running XP, trust me |
| 17:33.53 | macnewbold | grub's smarter than I thought, apparently |
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| 17:34.20 | Kuyaedz | *I* don't want to be running XP. This is a friends machine and he has yet to convince his wife to switch.. |
| 17:34.34 | Kuyaedz | need to figure out how to restore the grub settings I guess.. |
| 17:38.31 | Kuyaedz | I wonder if menu.lst got screwed up.. I guess I could also try grub-install again |
| 17:40.11 | JoshH | you think it got screwed up? so it was booting windows fine before? |
| 17:40.35 | findlay | what's the error? |
| 17:41.25 | Kuyaedz | it displays the XP entry information (hd0,0) all like it always did quickly & then below says "GRUB" and locks |
| 17:42.06 | JoshH | post the menu.lst |
| 17:42.47 | goozbach | ~paste |
| 17:42.49 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, paste is see http://paste.husk.org |
| 17:42.55 | brac | [pasting to global] |
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| 17:48.32 | Kuyaedz | http://christer.pastebin.com/713413 |
| 17:48.40 | Kuyaedz | entry for XP in menu.list |
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| 17:59.12 | Kuyaedz | http://christer.pastebin.com/713439 |
| 17:59.27 | Kuyaedz | more detailed error when trying to mount manually (mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows) |
| 18:00.34 | findlay | maybe it's a windows problem |
| 18:01.04 | Kuyaedz | and same error when being more specific in manually mount. sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 returns the same error. |
| 18:01.15 | findlay | perhaps you have to fix it's boot sector |
| 18:02.02 | Kuyaedz | Hmm.. wonder how to do that w/o reinstalling. |
| 18:02.06 | findlay | that's what it looks like to me anyway |
| 18:03.06 | findlay | windows is reboot happy for fixing things |
| 18:03.32 | Kuyaedz | I've got the XP install CD.. I wonder if somethign on there would do it |
| 18:03.55 | findlay | I don't know how. I've never done it before |
| 18:03.58 | findlay | ): |
| 18:04.41 | Kuyaedz | he said its been like this for a while. I should just tell him XP is un-recoverable and we should stick with what works |
| 18:05.28 | findlay | (: |
| 18:06.48 | Kuyaedz | Hmm.. booting to the XP install CD doesn't even recognize partition1 as NTFS. It just lists 3 unknown file systems |
| 18:06.55 | Kuyaedz | sounds like XP might be hosed |
| 18:08.23 | findlay | if you reinstall, you'd probably have to regrub the MBR from a liveCD |
| 18:08.42 | Kuyaedz | Yeah, restoring grub isn't too hard.. |
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| 18:11.48 | Kuyaedz | problem is I'm pretty sure he kept his data on the XP partition.. |
| 18:12.23 | findlay | ~lart windows for not partitioning system and user data |
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| 18:25.48 | Kuyaedz | ~lart windows for, well, being windows |
| 18:30.17 | elg | oh, windley on openclue now |
| 18:33.35 | spr | I'm not sure how well he fits into the scheme of things. |
| 18:33.51 | elg | we'll watch and see |
| 18:34.12 | elg | any EE here? |
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| 18:40.34 | elg | so is the plug bbq tomorrow? |
| 18:40.48 | Jayce^ | yes |
| 18:41.05 | elg | what time? |
| 18:41.13 | Jayce^ | starts at 5 |
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| 18:50.52 | findlay | I have a 7x7 pixel image. How can I tell the gimp which pixels I want transparent? |
| 18:51.14 | findlay | why does this thing have to be so confusing? |
| 18:51.39 | macnewbold | generally you erase them to trasparency |
| 18:51.47 | macnewbold | unless you want an alpha channel |
| 18:53.43 | findlay | doesn't seem to work |
| 18:54.01 | findlay | all I can do is move this transparency slider which affects the whole image |
| 18:55.46 | spengy | are you working on a 'background' layer? |
| 18:56.32 | findlay | it looks like it |
| 18:56.34 | spengy | if so, you might have to duplicate it and work with 'background copy' |
| 18:56.38 | spengy | then you can delete the original |
| 18:56.52 | spengy | GIMP has this strange thing where it doesn't like you making 'background' layers transparent |
| 18:57.04 | findlay | I see |
| 18:57.29 | spengy | then you should be able to make selections with the wand, or the rectangle-dealie and hit ctrl+x |
| 18:57.36 | spengy | should go transparent |
| 18:57.51 | findlay | that seems to work. Thanks spengy |
| 18:58.07 | spengy | No problem. The Gimp can be a bit goofy |
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| 20:01.42 | scottj | so lame. it appears that in order to get tracking info from yahoo stores you need to know before hand to login to yahoo, otherwise your order isn't tracked/viewable by their system |
| 20:08.52 | RyanE | A |
| 20:09.18 | RyanE | I think I have to do that at least once a week. Stupid fingers. |
| 20:11.25 | findlay | B |
| 20:12.22 | nick125_lappy | C |
| 20:14.18 | scottj | it's sad, but I'm more excited about that than my date tonight |
| 20:14.35 | findlay | what is it? |
| 20:14.48 | findlay | your date, I mean |
| 20:14.51 | findlay | what's a date? |
| 20:16.09 | goozbach | hhk lite2 |
| 20:17.11 | goozbach | I first read that and saw HK 45 |
| 20:17.38 | findlay | ~date |
| 20:17.40 | ibot | It is now 2006.06.16 20:17:40 GMT |
| 20:18.11 | findlay | ibot: is that AD? |
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| 20:20.16 | lars-ut | BBQ is tomorrow - see ya' there... http://uvlug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bbq2006 |
| 20:20.24 | RyanE | not. |
| 20:20.30 | lars-ut | or not. |
| 20:20.35 | RyanE | :) |
| 20:20.39 | findlay | ||? |
| 20:20.51 | RyanE | we were going to go, but Paige won Lagoon passes for the whole famdamily. |
| 20:20.53 | findlay | s/||/!/ |
| 20:21.00 | lars-ut | RyanE: thpppt |
| 20:21.14 | RyanE | what can I say? The girl has skills. |
| 20:21.25 | RyanE | and meal vouchers. |
| 20:21.35 | lars-ut | first I get beat by you in Power Grid, and now this? |
| 20:21.50 | RyanE | oh, you've gotten beaten by me way more than just that. |
| 20:21.59 | lars-ut | good point. |
| 20:22.11 | RyanE | Paige for some reason thinks that spending the day at Lagoon might be a bit more fun than hanging out with geeks. Go figure. |
| 20:24.09 | findlay | figures |
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| 20:48.35 | fozzmoo | Lagoon on Saturday... in the summer? |
| 20:48.44 | fozzmoo | I did that a couple weeks ago. whew. |
| 20:49.04 | fozzmoo | There were people in front of me and behind me in line for the terrorride that had obviously missing teeth. |
| 20:49.23 | Kuyaedz | didn't you know geeks spontaneously combust in direct sunlight? what were you thinking :) |
| 20:49.39 | fozzmoo | And it was What-Not-To-Wear day. |
| 20:51.40 | RyanE | every day at Lagoon is What-Not-To-Wear day. |
| 20:53.38 | fozzmoo | Well, I think going on a weekday generally results in fewer "OMG! I did NOT want to see that/those!" moments. |
| 20:54.36 | RyanE | the tickets are actually good *anytime*, but Paige still wants to go tomorrow. |
| 20:55.14 | RyanE | maybe I can talk her out of it, but the radio station she won them on will be giving away other stuff up there. I'm not sure she can resist that. |
| 20:56.21 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 20:56.23 | fozzmoo | What statiion? |
| 20:56.57 | findlay | s/ii/!!/ |
| 20:57.03 | RyanE | KOSY. It was a fathers-day thing. She emailed an entry, they called and asked how many tickets she needed. |
| 20:59.10 | RyanE | and we had just told the kids we were not going to Lagoon this year, since we did Disney earlier. Gotta love inconsitent parenting! |
| 20:59.34 | RyanE | well... at least we're consistently inconsistent. |
| 20:59.55 | fozzmoo | No, that's called consistently spoiling your kids. :) |
| 21:00.01 | fozzmoo | We do the same thing. It's awful. |
| 21:00.16 | goozbach | ha ha you got kids |
| 21:00.19 | goozbach | ! |
| 21:00.50 | findlay | s/!/i/ |
| 21:02.16 | goozbach | and to think, it's your kids who are going to be running things in 30 years |
| 21:02.22 | goozbach | we're all in trouble |
| 21:02.28 | RyanE | better my kids than yours. :) |
| 21:04.10 | tensai | better a herd of drunk rabid squirrels than findlay's kids |
| 21:04.31 | goozbach | who knows how many little goozbachs there are running around all over the country... |
| 21:04.37 | RyanE | that's actually why you have to be somewhat nice to them. They're going to decide how nice a nursing home you get to move into... |
| 21:05.33 | findlay | tensai's just jealous of my uberintelligence |
| 21:05.46 | RyanE | s/uber/lack of / |
| 21:05.54 | RyanE | I don't know why I did that... |
| 21:06.06 | goozbach | RyanE: if you live life crazy enough, you'll have little time to worry about it |
| 21:06.16 | tensai | findlay: I'm only jealous of your pink hat |
| 21:06.17 | goozbach | LIVE HARD!!! |
| 21:06.30 | findlay | tensai: how did you know about that?! |
| 21:06.31 | RyanE | goozbach: so your retirement plan consists of a bottle of Jack Daniels and a crotch rocket? |
| 21:07.42 | RyanE | goozbach: you off work? It's quittin-time in FL, ne? |
| 21:07.44 | tensai | findlay: I also know about the trout you keep in the glovebox |
| 21:07.50 | RyanE | mmmmm: trout |
| 21:08.39 | findlay | it's to keep the goblins away |
| 21:27.29 | findlay | heh |
| 21:31.16 | emcnabb | ugh, my brain is ready to fry |
| 21:31.48 | ScytheBlade1 | My brain has *already* fried. |
| 21:32.00 | emcnabb | that stinks |
| 21:32.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Why is your brain about to fry, emcnabb? |
| 21:32.21 | emcnabb | been working on kernel bugs all day |
| 21:32.50 | emcnabb | there is a lot to know |
| 21:33.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Like, ones that you submit and eventually wind up in mainline? |
| 21:34.24 | emcnabb | ones that customers and other vendors sumbit |
| 21:35.00 | emcnabb | fortunately there are people I can pass stuff on to |
| 21:35.03 | ScytheBlade1 | What is your business? What do you do for it? |
| 21:35.11 | emcnabb | Red Hat |
| 21:35.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't say that I really like your distro ;) |
| 21:35.39 | emcnabb | I just parse the bugs with my partners, and work with engineering to make sure stuff gets done |
| 21:35.42 | emcnabb | that's fine |
| 21:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | But hey, thanks for the countless, thankless hours that you put into making linux better ^^ |
| 21:35.50 | emcnabb | Linux is about choice |
| 21:36.07 | maquis | emcnabb: that's gotta be rough, but fun at the same time, i suppose |
| 21:36.25 | emcnabb | yeah, it is |
| 21:37.08 | emcnabb | I have a much different view now about Linux and OSS though now that I work here |
| 21:37.29 | emcnabb | you forget about how much work goes into it |
| 21:37.44 | ScytheBlade1 | <ScytheBlade1> But hey, thanks for the countless, thankless hours that you put into making linux better ^^ |
| 21:38.01 | emcnabb | you = all of us |
| 21:38.14 | spengy | you are GOD |
| 21:38.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Seriously, fixing kernel bugs is probably one of the most important things that can be done, and so thanks :) |
| 21:38.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, what he said |
| 21:38.46 | emcnabb | spengy: um, no |
| 21:38.55 | maquis | lol |
| 21:38.56 | spengy | OK, sorry |
| 21:39.02 | emcnabb | ~lart spengy |
| 21:39.41 | maquis | harleypig: btw, i found your blog post quite interesting... |
| 21:39.41 | maquis | :) |
| 21:39.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Who cares? |
| 21:39.49 | ScytheBlade1 | ~lart spengy |
| 21:40.02 | spengy | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:40.09 | emcnabb | there's a lot of hardware that I've had to deal with that I never was familiar with before |
| 21:40.34 | bonez39 | maquis, or anyone.....using sql-ledger? |
| 21:40.41 | bonez39 | I need someone to help me figure this out |
| 21:40.50 | bonez39 | how to get sql-ledger set up |
| 21:41.06 | emcnabb | well, off I go... it's the weekend! (almost) |
| 21:41.17 | findlay | emcnabb: now that you bring it up, can you fix that one thing that's been bothering me for the longest time? Thaks. |
| 21:41.26 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:41.36 | emcnabb_afk | findlay: consider it fixed! |
| 21:41.43 | findlay | sweet! |
| 21:42.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Forget the kernel bugtracker... forget the RH bugtracker... we have emcnabb_afk ! |
| 21:43.52 | maquis | bonez39: not me... |
| 21:44.26 | findlay | emcnabb_afk: can you make my kernel run 1024% faster? |
| 21:44.51 | spengy | emcnabb_afk: can you help me compile openoffice in to the kernel? |
| 21:45.08 | findlay | and wine too? |
| 21:45.26 | findlay | I want my kernel to have XGL bindings |
| 21:45.29 | maquis | ~lart findlay and spengy |
| 21:45.45 | spengy | haha nooo!! |
| 21:46.35 | ScytheBlade1 | OOo in the kernel? I can see it happening |
| 21:46.42 | ScytheBlade1 | But... the Win32 API? Oh my |
| 21:46.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That's blasphemy |
| 21:47.14 | spengy | OO in the kernel only makes sense |
| 21:47.20 | findlay | yeah |
| 21:47.32 | spengy | people always say "linux needs a good office suite" |
| 21:49.15 | harleypig | maquis: I hope I didn't offend you ... I was venting |
| 21:49.47 | bonez39 | spengy, they just haven't tried OO |
| 21:50.24 | spengy | bonez39: Yeah, OO is pretty great |
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| 22:03.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ~shoot findlay |
| 22:03.19 | ibot | ACTION shoots findlay in the foot with a frozen turkey cannon! |
| 22:03.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Close enough. |
| 22:04.06 | findlay | I want ibot in my kernel |
| 22:04.25 | findlay | and bindings for COBOL |
| 22:04.32 | harleypig | findlay: you're sick sick man |
| 22:04.37 | ScytheBlade1 | ibot in-kernel would be cool though |
| 22:04.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ~botsnack |
| 22:04.42 | ibot | :), ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:05.46 | findlay | clippy: I see you're trying to swap out this page. * ibot slaps clippy with a wet fish |
| 22:06.04 | findlay | ibot: I bet you could kick clippy's trasy |
| 22:06.06 | ibot | You bet you could kick clippy's trasy? |
| 22:06.11 | findlay | s/y/h/ |
| 22:06.36 | findlay | whatever |
| 22:10.44 | harleypig | :D |
| 22:10.54 | harleypig | that should have been s/sy/sh/ |
| 22:14.04 | spengy | I really don't know why I'm chewing on a safety pin |
| 22:14.06 | findlay | yeah, but I'm to lazy |
| 22:14.20 | findlay | just don't stick your tounge |
| 22:14.38 | spengy | I've only got it once or twice... |
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| 22:45.05 | findlay | harleypig: how do you 'source' a file with perl? I mean like #including a header file in C/C++ |
| 22:45.28 | harleypig | findlay: include 'filename' |
| 22:45.30 | findlay | I want something like #include <file.pl> |
| 22:45.36 | harleypig | oosp ... |
| 22:45.40 | harleypig | require 'filename' |
| 22:45.46 | harleypig | require 'filename'; |
| 22:45.46 | findlay | really? that's it? |
| 22:45.53 | harleypig | yeah |
| 22:46.06 | findlay | then all it's symbols are visible? |
| 22:46.14 | harleypig | though you might do something like eval { require 'filename' } die $@ if $@ |
| 22:46.24 | harleypig | findlay: basically yes. |
| 22:47.39 | harleypig | there are subtleties but you probably won't run into them if you're writing your own modules. |
| 22:49.10 | harleypig | wait ... I made an ASSumption here ... are you talking about runtime inclusion of files or compile time? |
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| 22:49.33 | findlay | what's the difference? |
| 22:49.40 | harleypig | when you said 'source' I assume runtime. |
| 22:50.02 | harleypig | in c #include happens at compile time correct? You can't load a module conditionally |
| 22:50.29 | findlay | #include is a preprocessor directive, so it's precompile time |
| 22:50.34 | harleypig | ah. |
| 22:51.09 | harleypig | well, in perl 'use Some::Module' is handled at compile time, and 'require Some::Module' happens at runtime, when the code is executed |
| 22:51.13 | findlay | I just wanted to load a file so I could use it's data, basically |
| 22:52.10 | harleypig | Ah. then most likely you're looking to do 'require "somefile.dat" or die "Can't load somefile.dat: $!\n"' |
| 22:52.17 | findlay | runtime is good enough I think |
| 22:52.39 | findlay | right |
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| 23:15.18 | emcnabb | -onjoin emcnabb |
| 23:15.27 | emcnabb | ~onjoin emcnabb |
| 23:15.27 | ibot | onjoin for emcnabb set by sjansen on Thu Jun 1 06:51:06 2006: It seems they'll let all manner of riff raff into #utah these days. |
| 23:21.31 | findlay | ~onjoin -emcnabb |
| 23:21.32 | ibot | ok, findlay |
| 23:24.23 | findlay | ~onjoin emcnabb All hail the linux bug exterminator of the red hat! |
| 23:24.23 | ibot | ok, findlay |
| 23:31.38 | emcnabb | ~onjoin emcnabb ~lart findlay |
| 23:31.38 | ibot | ok, emcnabb |
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