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| 00:47.17 | mrpull | anybody ever install 2K3 from BartsPE? |
| 00:47.51 | findlay | man, I *strongly* *dislike* bugs in vim highlight files |
| 00:48.08 | findlay | looks like I'm going to be fixing a few of them |
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| 01:06.18 | synic | findlay: heh, I've noticed that vim *hates* heredocs almost as much as I do. |
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| 02:04.46 | xbmodder_newlapp | Does anyone know of any good wireless technologies that are _cheap_ and good for data transmission over 10km, or so? |
| 02:06.50 | mrpull | holy cow xbmodder_newlapp.... what would prompt that question? |
| 02:11.48 | xbmodder_newlapp | mrpull, designing a wireless network for brownwood, TX |
| 02:12.42 | mrpull | 10 Km between stations seems like a long way for enthusiast grade electronics |
| 02:13.44 | mrpull | what sort of throughput is required? |
| 02:14.10 | xbmodder_newlapp | 1.5 Mbit/sec |
| 02:17.45 | xbmodder_newlapp | let me guess: impossible |
| 02:17.56 | mrpull | http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/448 |
| 02:18.31 | mrpull | possible |
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| 02:22.12 | xbmodder_newlapp | you think two of those could do 802.11B? |
| 02:22.36 | mrpull | yes |
| 02:23.31 | mrpull | http://www.netscum.com/~clapp/wireless.html |
| 02:23.55 | mrpull | http://seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/DirectionalYagi |
| 02:26.05 | mrpull | http://www.cantenna.com/ |
| 02:26.08 | brac | [WiFi Antennas-Super Cantenna Wireless Booster Antenna] |
| 02:28.40 | xbmodder_newlapp | yeah |
| 02:28.42 | xbmodder_newlapp | I've seen that |
| 02:29.14 | mrpull | only DIY is cheaper |
| 02:29.32 | maquis | [grape bzflag] glxgears |
| 02:29.33 | maquis | 4 frames in 6.0 seconds = 0.667 FPS |
| 02:29.33 | maquis | 3 frames in 5.0 seconds = 0.600 FPS |
| 02:29.33 | maquis | 4 frames in 6.0 seconds = 0.667 FPS |
| 02:29.33 | maquis | 3 frames in 5.0 seconds = 0.600 FPS |
| 02:31.00 | xbmodder_newlapp | :-( |
| 02:31.05 | xbmodder_newlapp | maquis, on what? |
| 02:31.23 | mrpull | maquis: trying to run glxgears on a TI99-4A? |
| 02:31.38 | maquis | that was on the cs lab computers |
| 02:31.47 | maquis | i don't think this computer is feeling all that well |
| 02:31.58 | maquis | ~blame spr |
| 02:32.00 | ibot | ACTION blames spr for all the evil in the world |
| 02:32.34 | spr | ~lart maquis |
| 02:32.49 | maquis | spr: i swear, i didn't do anything evil |
| 02:33.10 | spr | maquis, uh-huh, sure. :) |
| 02:33.46 | maquis | spr: any ideas for getting through the last pathway in the maze? we keep running into things |
| 02:34.03 | spr | no ideas here. I'm focusing on the homework at the moment. |
| 02:34.11 | maquis | spr: cool... |
| 02:37.58 | maquis | someone else noticed when they decided to use that machine... |
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| 03:01.52 | findlay | what's the command to start xfce? |
| 03:01.59 | findlay | is it just `xfce`? |
| 03:07.46 | nick125 | startxfce4 |
| 03:13.33 | nick125 | grr...... |
| 03:14.36 | findlay | nick125: sure? |
| 03:14.45 | findlay | s/?/?????????????????????????/ |
| 03:14.55 | findlay | s/?/?????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!22112@!@@!!!!!!!@!!!@/ |
| 03:15.09 | nick125 | startxfce4 works :P |
| 03:15.36 | nick125 | heh? |
| 03:15.42 | nick125 | s/?/??????????????/g |
| 03:15.46 | nick125 | s/?/??????????????/g |
| 03:15.58 | nick125 | heh??????????????? |
| 03:16.00 | nick125 | s/?/??????????????/g |
| 03:16.59 | xbmodder_newlapp | ... |
| 03:17.01 | spr | -lart ibot |
| 03:17.19 | findlay | ~compute 1024**1024**1024 |
| 03:17.22 | xbmodder_newlapp | -lart nick125 and findlay |
| 03:17.42 | findlay | ibot is a toy |
| 03:18.03 | bertbob | xfce4-session might work |
| 03:18.28 | findlay | thanks brac I never quite knew what that was for |
| 03:33.12 | mrpull | ~curse the guy that insisted we buy notebooks without optical drives |
| 03:33.13 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, the guy that insisted we buy notebooks without optical drives ! |
| 03:35.04 | findlay | ibot: nice |
| 03:35.05 | ibot | i heard nice is prime example of SuperJuan, or a good term for GNOME a derogatory term meaning bland, boring, feeble, or just crap. Example: That's a nice haircut. a city in france, or a program that will run a program with a modified scheduling priority (from -20 to 19, where 19 is the lowest). |
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| 03:45.15 | tensai | ~lart findlay |
| 03:52.46 | findlay | cd ibot && make clean |
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| 03:56.01 | findlay | does anybody know how to find out showtimes of movies in the future? |
| 03:56.13 | tensai | how far in the future? |
| 03:56.48 | findlay | like a couple of weeks |
| 03:58.27 | tensai | movies.yahoo.com has showtimes 10 days ahead |
| 03:58.37 | mrpull | findlay: did you try fandango.com? |
| 03:59.11 | findlay | no |
| 03:59.21 | mrpull | i think it goes out ten days |
| 03:59.31 | tensai | fandango has 2 weeks |
| 04:00.37 | mrpull | i'd say you cant really trust anything unless you reserve a theater |
| 04:02.35 | tensai | heh. I selected Jun 25 and every theater says "not available for this theater" |
| 04:03.12 | findlay | when is pirates II coming out? |
| 04:04.08 | findlay | july 7 |
| 04:04.18 | xbmodder_newlapp | sweet |
| 04:04.23 | xbmodder_newlapp | ~monologue |
| 04:04.52 | xbmodder_newlapp | yyou mean potc2? |
| 04:05.05 | findlay | whatever it's called |
| 04:06.07 | tensai | Pirates of the Carribean: Curse of the Cliched Title |
| 04:06.20 | xbmodder_newlapp | I thought you were talking about the game |
| 04:06.24 | xbmodder_newlapp | and I was like YEAH! |
| 04:06.29 | xbmodder_newlapp | then I looked up |
| 04:06.34 | xbmodder_newlapp | and I started crying |
| 04:07.18 | findlay | haha |
| 04:07.23 | findlay | ~hahahahahaha |
| 04:10.38 | findlay | Pirates of the BGP: Curse of the black .torrent |
| 04:11.06 | findlay | hmm, spoof ideas have immediately begun crowding my mind |
| 04:13.51 | findlay | maybe I should blog about this |
| 04:15.28 | mrpull | findlay: make a fanfilm too |
| 04:15.39 | mrpull | that'd be ... err... terrible |
| 04:22.16 | Kuyaedz | are there other options for SSH in XP besides cygwin? |
| 04:24.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ssh.com |
| 04:24.13 | ScytheBlade1 | and putty |
| 04:32.50 | levi2 | Kuyaedz: putty |
| 04:33.23 | Kuyaedz | I should have been more specific. I need an ssh service on an XP box. |
| 04:33.35 | findlay | putty |
| 04:33.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ssh server. |
| 04:34.19 | findlay | windows tends to warp its apps towards proprietaryness, so good luck |
| 04:39.42 | Uncle_Jesse | man all this bbq on food network is making me hungry |
| 04:42.09 | mrpull | google turned up a few options |
| 04:42.41 | mrpull | cygwin might be most attractive because it may outlast some of the others (for long term patches, etc) |
| 04:48.56 | Kuyaedz | thanks |
| 04:53.21 | mheath[laptop] | Good evening. |
| 04:53.34 | xbmodder_newlapp | hey |
| 04:56.16 | xbmodder_newlapp | good evening |
| 04:58.46 | mheath[laptop] | Agh! Haagen Daas ice cream commercial on TV... |
| 04:58.50 | mheath[laptop] | Now I'm hungry. |
| 04:58.57 | mheath[laptop] | ~praise Haagen Daas Ice Cream |
| 04:58.59 | ibot | All hail Haagen Daas Ice Cream! |
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| 05:04.31 | mheath[laptop] | ~lart everyone |
| 05:06.43 | QBFreak | ~lart mheath[laptop] |
| 05:06.59 | mheath[laptop] | agh |
| 05:07.04 | mheath[laptop] | ~rlart |
| 05:07.12 | QBFreak | poor ChanServ |
| 05:08.04 | mheath[laptop] | Hahah |
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| 05:13.06 | scottj | looking at SQL Server today I realized once again why so many people are such avid OSS fans. This program we're using uses Access by defau;t and in order to have it use SQL Server you have to purchase an upgrade. Then SQL Server has 4 different versions with 3 different licensing types for each version |
| 05:13.25 | maquis | http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=516645&tstart=0 |
| 05:13.38 | mheath[laptop] | scottj, yeah, its rediculous. |
| 05:13.47 | scottj | and I wanted an uninstall program for my mac and it costs $13 bucks |
| 05:14.14 | scottj | I think it's funny that they can't ever tell you how much the upgrade actually costs |
| 05:14.31 | scottj | at least the tech people |
| 05:15.03 | scottj | the sales guys have to find out how badly you need it, and how much it will cost you if you don't have it, and then milk you for all they can |
| 05:17.10 | scottj | maquis: I don't have that problem, but now you've made me worried |
| 05:18.07 | mheath[laptop] | thats got to be some series flaw |
| 05:18.18 | mheath[laptop] | Like, one batch of plastic that was improperly made or molded |
| 05:18.29 | mheath[laptop] | Theres no way Apple would have allowed that plastic after testing |
| 05:19.50 | maquis | scottj: i'm just reading about it... looks like a large number of people have the problem |
| 05:20.09 | maquis | appears that it's showing up for a lot of people after they've had the computer for 2-3 weeks |
| 05:21.03 | scottj | mine is spotless, and I got it when it first came out |
| 05:21.18 | scottj | so guess I got lucky |
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| 05:40.33 | xbmodder_newlapp | how do I make date spit out time in ISO8601 |
| 05:41.41 | QBFreak | ~ISO8601 |
| 05:41.51 | QBFreak | ibot: you're useless! |
| 05:41.52 | ibot | Yes. Yes I am |
| 05:41.54 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 05:42.03 | maquis | w00t! |
| 05:42.17 | maquis | got 85% on my bio test last week |
| 05:42.26 | xbmodder_newlapp | good job |
| 05:42.40 | maquis | xbmodder_newlapp: thx :) |
| 05:43.39 | QBFreak | date +"%D %T" |
| 05:43.42 | QBFreak | see if that looks right to you |
| 05:57.28 | mheath[laptop] | biology? ugh. |
| 05:57.38 | mheath[laptop] | ~lart biology |
| 10:40.43 | bertbob | /exec date +%F |
| 10:40.47 | bertbob | 2006-06-13 |
| 10:42.29 | tene | 2006-06-13 |
| 10:42.40 | tene | Woah, you were right! |
| 10:49.48 | bertbob | man pages can be very handy |
| 10:49.49 | bertbob | LOL |
| 10:55.59 | bertbob | or you can add T%T%z for the other stuff, time and TZD |
| 10:56.22 | bertbob | 2006-06-13t04:56:22-0600 |
| 10:56.50 | bertbob | dammit |
| 10:56.54 | bertbob | 2006-06-13T04:56:54-0600 |
| 10:59.36 | bertbob | /exec date +%FT%T%:z |
| 10:59.40 | bertbob | /exec date +%FT%T%:z |
| 10:59.45 | bertbob | 2006-06-13T04:59:45-06:00 |
| 11:00.39 | bertbob | other than nanoseconds I don't see how to get decimal fractions of the seconds |
| 12:28.38 | goozbach | xbmodder_newlapp: date --iso |
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| 13:26.37 | goozbach | it's wet |
| 13:26.40 | goozbach | and I melt |
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| 14:13.05 | goozbach | http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2813 |
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| 14:15.00 | jsmith | goozbach: Funny that... Digium has been building telephony cards with that same chipset for years -- and then moved on to a better chipset. |
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| 15:00.26 | mheath[laptop] | I was just thinking.... |
| 15:00.50 | mheath[laptop] | if Google Earth got a lot of contributors, it could turn out to be _really_ cool |
| 15:01.12 | mheath[laptop] | advanced 3d representations of entire metropolitan areas......perfected architectural 3d exterior representations of prominent buildings.. |
| 15:02.13 | tristanbob | mheath[laptop]: you mean content contributers? because I don't think the code is open source |
| 15:02.44 | mheath[laptop] | tristanbob, yes, content contributors. Its designed to be _very_ open and flexible for content contributor.s |
| 15:02.57 | tristanbob | using google sketch? |
| 15:03.07 | mrpull-x | mheath[laptop]: have you tried sketchup? |
| 15:03.18 | mheath[laptop] | mrpull-x: No. |
| 15:03.25 | harleypig | anyone able to get compiz going on kubuntu kde amd64 setup, *NOT* using kdm? |
| 15:03.46 | mrpull-x | it isnt as easy aas i expected |
| 15:04.17 | tristanbob | mrpull-x: actually I thought it was pretty neat |
| 15:04.28 | tristanbob | I was expecting it to be harder to use |
| 15:04.31 | mrpull-x | it is neat. |
| 15:04.52 | mrpull-x | maybe i was trying to hard |
| 15:04.56 | tristanbob | :) |
| 15:05.03 | harleypig | I'm looking forward to the first fps to use Google Earth as its platform! |
| 15:05.10 | tristanbob | I just followed some of the tutorials |
| 15:05.26 | tristanbob | harleypig: Good idea |
| 15:06.00 | tristanbob | since we are on the topic |
| 15:06.02 | tristanbob | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7813256933733489580&q=google+earth |
| 15:07.18 | mrpull-x | ive used blender in the past. i think i like it more. |
| 15:09.58 | tristanbob | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7640816139996230119&q=google+earth |
| 15:10.13 | tristanbob | didn't realize there were so many movies about google earth |
| 15:12.01 | goozbach | I can see it now: |
| 15:12.23 | goozbach | Dallas, TX. "the car is comming around the corner" |
| 15:12.42 | goozbach | "and THERE's the president!" |
| 15:12.48 | goozbach | *CRACK* |
| 15:13.38 | goozbach | yeah, FPS google earth, re-enact all shootings of history |
| 15:20.45 | ^Migs^ | http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/13/beach.death.ap/index.html |
| 15:20.50 | brac | [CNN.com - Police SUV runs over, kills sunbather on beach - Jun 13, 2006] |
| 15:20.52 | levi2 | So, does the Linux google earth work for you guys? |
| 15:21.25 | ^Migs^ | The woman, Cindy Conolly, 49, of Sioux City, Iowa, was in town for her son's wedding |
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| 15:21.41 | ^Migs^ | no, it made my computer explode |
| 15:22.52 | ^Migs^ | http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060613/D8I7ADB81.html |
| 15:22.55 | brac | [My Way News - Hawking Says Humans Must Go Into Space] |
| 15:25.12 | levi2 | Sweet, a children's book by Hawking. |
| 15:25.43 | levi2 | I ate up books about space when I was a kid. |
| 15:25.54 | levi2 | Space is the coolest! |
| 15:26.46 | ^Migs^ | no, space blows |
| 15:26.46 | goozbach | well it IS cold! |
| 15:26.59 | ^Migs^ | http://www.kirotv.com/news/9359520/detail.html |
| 15:27.03 | goozbach | ^Migs^: the solar wind blows! |
| 15:27.05 | brac | [KIROTV.com - News - Students Arrested After Videotape Of Fight Surfaces On MySpace.com] |
| 15:27.09 | goozbach | space is cold |
| 15:27.19 | ^Migs^ | technically, it doesn't blow |
| 15:27.38 | harleypig | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/06/13/sony_tfts_with_post-it_panel/print.html |
| 15:27.41 | brac | [Sony engineers in shock Post-it® notes discovery [printer-friendly] | The Register] |
| 15:27.47 | levi2 | Heh, I love it when kids do illegal stuff and videotape it. |
| 15:27.57 | levi2 | Kids are SOOO stupid. |
| 15:28.24 | goozbach | http://geektechnique.org/projectlab/651/geek-chique-how-to-make-cuff-links |
| 15:28.25 | ^Migs^ | no kidding |
| 15:28.52 | ^Migs^ | with any luck, myspace will speed up evolution and kill off the stupid emo teens |
| 15:29.16 | ScytheBlade1 | here here! |
| 15:33.38 | harleypig | http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/29/vet.lottery.ap/index.html?section=cnn_offbeat# |
| 15:33.43 | brac | [CNN.com - Soldier finds winning lottery ticket - May 29, 2006] |
| 15:33.45 | harleypig | Why is this in the offbeat section? |
| 15:33.55 | harleypig | Just cause he returns the ticket? |
| 15:34.11 | harleypig | and refuses any kind of renumeration |
| 15:34.50 | harleypig | s/renum/remun/ |
| 15:35.30 | levi2 | Um, does that cufflink geek meen 'chic' instead of 'chique'? |
| 15:39.02 | mheath[laptop] | levi2, its "Geek Techni_que_". I think they're trying to be cute. |
| 15:58.51 | redbeard1 | harleypig: ping |
| 16:00.33 | mheath[laptop] | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8886095851884987053 <---Speaking of recording yourself doing stupid things |
| 16:00.57 | mheath[laptop] | What do you know? dousing yourself in alcohol and lighting a match DOES start a fire! =P |
| 16:16.16 | [Utah]tristanbob | anyone get realplayer working on ubuntu 6.06 LTS? |
| 16:16.33 | maquis | mheath[laptop]: ouch... |
| 16:16.48 | macnewbold | unless you use too muhc, it burns off pretty quickly |
| 16:17.53 | [Utah]tristanbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.53 | [Utah]tristanbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.22 | maquis | the end of the movie shows exactly how stupid the guy is... |
| 16:20.14 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I love that public service announcement |
| 16:20.17 | ^Migs^ | brilliant |
| 16:29.55 | goozbach | http://www.edirectory.co.uk/presentfinder/pages/moreinfog.asp?senc=BDAGXHGEBICX&afid=125667 |
| 16:30.08 | brac | [The Famous Grass Armchair - as seen on BIG BROTHER ! by Garden Goods from www.thepresentfinder.co.uk online shop] |
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| 17:10.11 | mheath[laptop] | Does anyone have any suggestions for a fathers day present for an older man, enjoys classical music...... |
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| 17:17.41 | Kuyaedz | maybe some classical music CDs? |
| 17:26.12 | emcnabb | it depends how old he is. maybe a hearing aid would be good if he can't hear his classical music |
| 17:26.59 | Kuyaedz | maybe goozbachs suggestion of the famous lawn armchair! |
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| 17:44.43 | goozbach | penny loafers |
| 17:44.50 | goozbach | and a smoking jacket |
| 17:45.29 | goozbach | hmm... "goozbachs" got through my hilight filter |
| 17:47.12 | findlay | a jacket that smokes |
| 17:47.22 | findlay | that would be strange |
| 17:47.42 | findlay | "a jacket that smokes but doesn't burn" |
| 17:49.53 | findlay | ~smoke |
| 17:49.55 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, smoke is what runs your computer. don't let it out, or the computer won't work |
| 17:51.59 | QBFreak | heh |
| 18:12.17 | elg | -lart stupid printer problems |
| 18:12.26 | elg | so get this. laserjet IIIp |
| 18:12.36 | elg | on the kitchen table hooked up to my father-in-law's laptop |
| 18:12.41 | elg | works, has been for a long time |
| 18:12.57 | elg | take it upstairs and plug it into computer up there with intent to share |
| 18:13.06 | elg | doesn't work. take laptop up, plug it in, doesn't work |
| 18:13.14 | elg | spend two hours troubleshooting, still doesn't work |
| 18:13.19 | elg | on either computer |
| 18:13.31 | elg | oh and it used to work on the upstairs computer just fine |
| 18:13.31 | QBFreak | checked for bent pins? |
| 18:13.44 | elg | connectors look fine |
| 18:13.44 | elg | same cable as always |
| 18:14.33 | QBFreak | the printer powers up ok? |
| 18:14.41 | elg | yeah. self tests fine |
| 18:14.47 | elg | did lots of resets, cold resets |
| 18:14.52 | elg | printed the fonts page |
| 18:14.56 | elg | everything seems fine |
| 18:15.09 | elg | if the printer is off, the laptop will wait until it's on and online |
| 18:15.14 | elg | then the job apparently is sent to the printer |
| 18:15.21 | elg | but the printer just sits there saying "ready" |
| 18:15.28 | ScytheBlade1 | How is it connected? |
| 18:15.31 | elg | parallel |
| 18:15.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Ouch |
| 18:15.44 | QBFreak | ScytheBlade1: what's wrong with parallel? :p |
| 18:15.55 | ScytheBlade1 | QBFreak, compared to TCP/IP, a lot :) |
| 18:16.41 | QBFreak | you can't build surface streets to interstate standards too |
| 18:17.04 | elg | i don't know the diff between ecp and epp, but I assume that's not it as it's been working for years without changing that |
| 18:17.23 | elg | the laptop is set to old-style (AT), but I think w2k may be able to set that on the fly to whatever it wants |
| 18:17.37 | elg | the desktop is xp home |
| 18:18.26 | QBFreak | dunno what to suggest |
| 18:18.44 | elg | i'm completely lost too |
| 18:18.54 | QBFreak | I fought with an HP that does everything but make coffee, it had to be powered on and plugged in before the PC was turned on |
| 18:19.04 | QBFreak | except that you couldn't just reboot, you had to power both off first |
| 18:19.29 | elg | maybe I can try that |
| 18:19.49 | QBFreak | my LaserJet 5L isn't like that though |
| 18:20.06 | elg | based on what he's told me this shouldn't have that trouble either |
| 18:20.29 | elg | he often "turn it on and print" |
| 18:20.40 | elg | from his laptop which doesn't really get turned off |
| 18:20.42 | QBFreak | something has gone awry |
| 18:21.23 | findlay | elg: this is a sign from the fates. You're going to win a game of chess tomorrow |
| 18:21.25 | elg | it's like it has some bad pcl or something and is waiting for some special escape sequence and will then spit out 500 pages |
| 18:21.38 | elg | but you'd think a cold reset and/or regular reset would purge that |
| 18:21.42 | ScytheBlade1 | elg, I've seen that. That's pretty much it exactly. |
| 18:22.03 | elg | yeah, I've seen that sort of thing before |
| 18:22.10 | QBFreak | in that case I'd unplug it from the power for a while |
| 18:22.15 | elg | but reset should do the trick |
| 18:22.21 | elg | I've unplugged it for a few minutes |
| 18:22.44 | ^Migs^ | http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/mel-gibson/mel-gibson-driven-out-of-malibu-by-white-trash-neighbors-180403.php |
| 18:22.49 | brac | [Mel Gibson Driven Out Of Malibu By White Trash Neighbors - Defamer] |
| 18:25.22 | elg | maybe i should give this printer to britney |
| 18:25.51 | QBFreak | be sure it has some momentum first |
| 18:28.00 | ^Migs^ | http://dat.4chan.org/b/src/1150222242257.jpg |
| 18:28.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa |
| 18:28.52 | ScytheBlade1 | ^Migs^ linking 4chan? |
| 18:29.12 | ^Migs^ | ? |
| 18:29.35 | ScytheBlade1 | 4chan? |
| 18:29.38 | ^Migs^ | ? |
| 18:29.55 | ScytheBlade1 | never mind, heh |
| 18:32.26 | mheath[laptop] | I'm about to scrap my shoes and do them properly from the start |
| 18:32.28 | mheath[laptop] | =P |
| 18:32.36 | mheath[laptop] | just bought saddle soap, mink oil, and leather dye |
| 18:39.19 | goozbach | ~adivinate the requirements of this project |
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| 19:13.33 | findlay | how do I get apache to serve a site on duh.example.com (meaning one different from the one already on example.com)? |
| 19:13.47 | TimRiker | June 15th Java users group -> http://www.ujug.org/meetings.html |
| 19:14.44 | TimRiker | findlay: probably virtual hosts, and perhaps named virtual hosts. |
| 19:15.13 | mheath[laptop] | findlay, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/ |
| 19:15.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ServerName primary.domain.tld |
| 19:15.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ServerAlias secondary.domain.tls etc.domain.tld |
| 19:15.55 | TimRiker | ScytheBlade1: that would be for the same info, he's looking for different info. |
| 19:16.02 | findlay | yeah |
| 19:16.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, hey I'm blind |
| 19:18.22 | findlay | so you can just declare a VirtualHost with a ServerName of duh.example.com and it will work? |
| 19:21.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Should be able to |
| 19:21.32 | ScytheBlade1 | be sure that you enabled NameVirtualHost |
| 19:24.38 | redbeard1 | has anyone here ever heard of a recipe software called cook'n? |
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| 19:29.54 | QBFreak | ~cook redbeard1 |
| 19:29.55 | ibot | ACTION throws redbeard1 in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks redbeard1 on 350 for an hour |
| 19:30.18 | mheath[laptop] | mmm, something special about leather shoes.... |
| 19:30.25 | mheath[laptop] | they smell gently like saddle soap |
| 19:30.41 | mheath[laptop] | they've got a tiny bit of lustre |
| 19:30.48 | mheath[laptop] | waiting for its first coat of polish |
| 19:32.10 | elg | oh, cool. p2p has been contained |
| 19:32.12 | elg | awesome |
| 19:32.15 | elg | I was so worried |
| 19:33.33 | mheath[laptop] | In other news, "Mission Accomplished!" in Iraq. |
| 19:33.44 | emcnabb | I figure that people have all the songs they want, therefore piracy is down |
| 19:33.52 | emcnabb | at least that's how it is with me :-) |
| 19:35.18 | findlay | ScytheBlade1: it's not working |
| 19:35.18 | ScytheBlade1 | findlay, lemme pastebin an example |
| 19:35.31 | findlay | thanks |
| 19:37.26 | ScytheBlade1 | findlay, http://pastebin.com/707186 |
| 19:44.38 | elg | hmm, another wm to try out http://wmii.de/ |
| 19:44.48 | elg | inspired by nintendo? |
| 19:56.55 | findlay | still not working |
| 19:57.30 | findlay | maybe apache won't let you host different sites on a.example.com and on example.com |
| 19:57.41 | findlay | that would be stupid |
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| 20:05.59 | ScytheBlade1 | It should |
| 20:07.25 | Migs | no it shouldn't |
| 20:08.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean, my example is ;) |
| 20:11.35 | findlay | ScytheBlade1: your example had different domainnames |
| 20:12.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Same concept though |
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| 20:13.00 | ScytheBlade1 | you could literally use sed and come up with a working example for your setup |
| 20:15.00 | Kuyaedz | whats the best way to kill X & just drop to the term? |
| 20:17.29 | mrpull- | Kuyaedz: what distro? init 3 is a good way in RH'ish distros |
| 20:17.48 | Kuyaedz | Ubuntu. I've never needed to but I've got someone askin'.. |
| 20:19.53 | mrpull- | That is something i've never tried in a Debian'ish distro (tho the "init 3" trick wont work) |
| 20:20.26 | Kuyaedz | I just did /etc/init.d/gdm stop which dropped me to the terminal & I can't find any instances of X, gdm, gnome, etc in ps aux |
| 20:20.26 | spr | Kuyaedz, switch to a console (ctrl-alt-f1) log in and try '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' |
| 20:20.57 | findlay | ScytheBlade1: yeah sounds good on paper |
| 20:21.04 | Kuyaedz | I offered that solution but he says "sure doesn't seem very graceful". I guess he was looking for a 'log out to terminal' option or something |
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| 20:22.08 | findlay | telinit 3 |
| 20:22.23 | mrpull- | Kuyaedz: what does he need a term-only environment for? |
| 20:22.29 | Kuyaedz | I have no idea.. |
| 20:22.52 | Kuyaedz | I don't know what he's trying to do actually. He wants to install it on his server but he still insists on installing the GUI |
| 20:23.20 | findlay | otherwise just edit /etc/inittab |
| 20:23.27 | findlay | if he's so afraid of X |
| 20:23.46 | Kuyaedz | He was complaining about the window redrawing was choppy on his old thinkpad (128M, 500mhz), yet he wants to use it as a server |
| 20:23.47 | mrpull- | findlay: doesn't ubuntu run X in runlevel 3? |
| 20:23.58 | findlay | mrpull-: /etc/inittab should tell you |
| 20:24.16 | findlay | or /etc/rc.whatever/blah.blah |
| 20:26.12 | findlay | stupid complicated configurations that I don't want to learn |
| 20:26.16 | findlay | and newbies |
| 20:26.28 | findlay | it's Canada's fault |
| 20:26.34 | findlay | ~lart newbies |
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| 20:27.22 | Kuyaedz | hey, if this guy insists on using the GUI on his server and wants to do random stuff like kill X during use.. let him figure it out |
| 20:27.39 | Kuyaedz | I hate it when people have odd requests but its due to their stupidity in the first place. |
| 20:29.24 | mrpull- | Kuyaedz: perhaps you should educate him without making him feel stupid :) |
| 20:29.36 | mrpull- | you _are_ trying to help him right? |
| 20:29.47 | findlay | I'm tired of dealing with complacent incompetence, especially my own |
| 20:30.30 | jnielsen | which is worse, ignorance or apathy? who knows? who cares? |
| 20:30.35 | Kuyaedz | Yeah, I just told him to install Xfce if he's worried about responsiveness in his GUI |
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| 20:33.40 | lars-ut | ~throw some shurikens |
| 20:33.48 | Migs | I brought some cheese-stuffed chicken from home, and it's the greasiest stuff I've ever had |
| 20:33.52 | lars-ut | dang. |
| 20:33.53 | Migs | I'm getting sick just looking at it |
| 20:34.07 | Migs | it's delicious, though |
| 20:34.29 | findlay | jnielsen: heh |
| 20:34.44 | jnielsen | someone guts a chicken and stuffs the body cavity full of cheese? |
| 20:34.57 | Kuyaedz | some people like cheese |
| 20:35.05 | Migs | yeah, then you roast it up |
| 20:35.35 | jnielsen | I think I'll stick to stuffing it a piece at a time, preferrably with a slice of ham |
| 20:35.56 | findlay | gross |
| 20:36.06 | Migs | yeah, ham is gross |
| 20:36.14 | jnielsen | lol |
| 20:38.07 | jnielsen | I guess I can't knock it 'til I've tried it |
| 20:38.15 | jnielsen | the cheese stuffed chicken, I mean |
| 20:38.34 | Kuyaedz | sounds good to me. Fried stuff with cheese |
| 20:39.50 | findlay | man, I hate this server |
| 20:41.11 | findlay | all sounds pretty gross to me |
| 20:41.48 | nick125_lappy | lol.. |
| 20:43.46 | Migs | the server is not gross |
| 20:44.11 | Migs | it was a simple enough recipe. I just put some cheddar, mozarella, and ricotta cheese under the skin flaps of the chicken pieces |
| 20:44.24 | Migs | put some other seasonings on, and baked it up |
| 20:44.37 | Migs | holy scrumpynums |
| 20:45.11 | findlay | it sounds so retarded |
| 20:45.19 | findlay | ~lart stuff |
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| 20:46.33 | Migs | ? |
| 20:46.38 | Migs | it's called death metal, findlay |
| 20:47.10 | findlay | ~lart screaming noises that come on CD |
| 20:47.19 | findlay | ha |
| 20:47.23 | findlay | take that! |
| 20:47.51 | goozbach | ok everyone needs to run: nc ascii-wm.net 6667 |
| 20:48.36 | mrpull- | goozbach: is that the world cup feed? |
| 20:48.59 | goozbach | doh you all broke it |
| 20:49.01 | goozbach | mrpull-: yup |
| 20:49.06 | goozbach | in ascii |
| 20:49.46 | mrpull- | the one I saw was on port 2006 |
| 20:50.00 | mrpull- | i'm using tvants to stream some chinese station's feed of the games |
| 20:50.08 | mrpull- | it is a bit better than ASCII resolution |
| 20:51.52 | lars-ut | mininova.org seemed to have some torrents of the games |
| 20:52.16 | lars-ut | (warning: I use Adblock w/Filterset.G Autoupdater) |
| 20:53.58 | mrpull- | i didn't realize live tv could be streamed P2P until last week. |
| 20:54.19 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 20:54.38 | nick125_lappy | live tv, no, not really.. |
| 20:55.43 | Migs | http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32388 |
| 20:56.06 | nick125 | let's say they use something like bittorrent, it would lag to the farther out peers that aren't connected to the server.. |
| 20:57.01 | mrpull- | nick125: it is close enough to real time that it doesn't bother me |
| 21:10.18 | tensai | redbeard1: you watch ctrl-alt-chicken? |
| 21:10.32 | redbeard1 | what's ctrl-alt-chicken? |
| 21:10.42 | tensai | that sounds like a "no" |
| 21:11.00 | tensai | http://revision3.com/ctrlaltchicken |
| 21:11.22 | tensai | amateur food show with a heavy dose of wit |
| 21:12.09 | tensai | their first show was on chicken cordon bleu. they deep fried it at way too high a temperature and it was raw in the middle. |
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| 21:14.25 | redbeard1 | a cooking show where the cooks don't know how to cook? |
| 21:14.43 | Kuyaedz | findlay: what'd they change that you don't like? |
| 21:15.37 | tensai | redbeard1: they're not completely incompetent, but they're not CIA graduates either. and their wine pairing seem to be based on folklore rather than knowledge. |
| 21:16.30 | tensai | I love the show though. hilarious. and we made chicken cordon bleu based loosly on their recipe, and it was good (and thoroughly cooked) |
| 21:17.37 | findlay | Kuyaedz: two things. 1: when I insert a CD it used to get placed in the same spot, now when it shows up on the desktop it's at the end and leaves a blank spot |
| 21:18.50 | findlay | 2: the log out dialog doesn't give me the option to save the session. Now you have to dig through the menu to find the dialog with the checkbox to save the session, only it will be saved after each exit which is somewhat annoying |
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| 21:19.39 | Kuyaedz | anyone know of any web server performance testing apps? |
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| 21:33.12 | tensai | Kuyaedz: apt-cache says siege and hammerhead. I've also used the one from apache but I can't recall its name |
| 21:34.14 | suspence | \quit bye-bye |
| 21:35.03 | findlay | suspence: other / |
| 21:51.09 | lars-ut | RyanE, macnewbold: Looks like we'll be playing Ra and For Sale tonight - http://mail.herlo.org/pipermail/boardgames_herlo.org/2006-June/000164.html |
| 21:51.14 | brac | [[BoardGames] Board Game Night Tonight 9:30pm - June 13] |
| 21:51.22 | macnewbold | sounds fun |
| 21:51.30 | macnewbold | I'll have to see what I can do to get there |
| 21:51.41 | macnewbold | my wife's been sick today, and we're watching two of her sister's kids for the rest of the week |
| 21:51.59 | macnewbold | so from now until saturday, we've got kids ages 5,4,3,2, and 6 months. |
| 21:52.07 | macnewbold | so this week might be a no-go :( |
| 21:52.10 | macnewbold | but I'll try |
| 21:52.15 | lars-ut | I left the time at 9:30pm to give you SLC Valler boardgamers more time to get down here |
| 21:52.20 | macnewbold | yes, thank you |
| 21:52.23 | lars-ut | s/Valler/Valley |
| 21:52.36 | macnewbold | is there someone else coming from SLC too? |
| 21:52.40 | lars-ut | ~summon jsmith |
| 21:52.44 | ibot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing jsmith's coordinates |
| 21:52.44 | macnewbold | or SLValley |
| 21:52.53 | lars-ut | lol |
| 21:53.22 | macnewbold | I thought jsmith was in utah valley, but maybe it was west jordan or something. but isn't he out of town today? |
| 21:53.29 | macnewbold | paris, london, berlin, rome or something? |
| 21:53.33 | lars-ut | ah. |
| 21:53.37 | lars-ut | You're right |
| 21:53.45 | lars-ut | Astricon Europe |
| 21:53.58 | lars-ut | forgot about that. |
| 21:55.56 | macnewbold | but maybe I can arrange a carpool or park-n-ride with him one time when we're both going |
| 21:56.18 | macnewbold | safer drive with more than one person in the car, and less boring, not to mention the gas savings |
| 21:56.33 | lars-ut | true. |
| 21:57.38 | lars-ut | Although there likely is enough interest to fork the boardgame night to SLValley and/or Lehi/Eagle Mountain areas |
| 21:57.52 | lars-ut | ~fork it |
| 21:58.13 | lars-ut | ~pistolwhip ibot |
| 21:58.26 | lars-ut | ~flail ibot |
| 21:58.31 | lars-ut | ~fillet ibot |
| 22:00.02 | lars-ut | Kuyaedz: ab - Apache HTTP server benchmarking tool |
| 22:00.37 | Kuyaedz | lars-ut: thanks, found that one too :) |
| 22:00.58 | macnewbold | lars-ut: I'd be up for trying that fork... do we have any volunteers for hosts? |
| 22:01.19 | lars-ut | macnewbold: that's the hard part |
| 22:01.31 | lars-ut | I'd try twice a month to start |
| 22:01.35 | lars-ut | Kuyaedz: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-performance-benchmarks-a-web-server.html |
| 22:01.41 | brac | [Howto: Performance Benchmarks a Web server | nixCraft] |
| 22:01.55 | lars-ut | Kuyaedz: Did you already find that one? |
| 22:02.21 | Kuyaedz | I didn't. I found ab was all |
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| 22:23.59 | levi | Ack, my server rebooted. |
| 22:31.16 | mrpull- | levi: ack... no ups? |
| 22:31.45 | levi | Nope. |
| 22:31.52 | levi | No room for one. |
| 22:32.00 | levi | I'm not running anything vital on it, just my blogs. |
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| 22:36.47 | mrpull- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5qoMfBJUeI |
| 22:42.17 | macnewbold | I believe anymore that if you value your hardware or your data enough to not want to replace it, you put a UPS on the box. It's a small investment for the protection and convenience you get. |
| 22:42.43 | Kuyaedz | I still need to get a UPS for my webserver.. I keep putting it off |
| 22:44.36 | mrpull- | it seems with all the cheap "raid" chipsets on motherboards it is even be more scary to not have battery backed power |
| 22:52.22 | macnewbold | even brownouts or apparent "off for 10 seconds then back again" outages can fry your hardware |
| 22:52.38 | macnewbold | a 10s outage fried a mobo, processor, probably ram, and maybe hard drive in one of my boxes |
| 22:52.54 | macnewbold | and it was on a surge protector |
| 22:53.18 | Kuyaedz | I've had it kill two PSU, but never got deeper into the hardware |
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| 22:53.52 | lukfugl | question: what are possible causes of "No space left on device" when df reports man gigs of free space? |
| 22:54.10 | lukfugl | is it possible that I've run out of inodes? if so, how do I check that? |
| 22:54.21 | lukfugl | (and if I check it and find that I am, how do I *fix* it?) |
| 22:54.21 | findlay | sure you got the right device? |
| 22:54.49 | lukfugl | findlay: yup, triple checked the directory tree for symlinks, mounts, etc, to make sure I'm on the device I think I am |
| 22:55.16 | findlay | lukfugl: you don't fix inodes, they fix you! |
| 22:55.24 | lukfugl | findlay: heh |
| 22:55.39 | findlay | there's a way to look at the inode count, but I forgot |
| 22:55.46 | findlay | probably some option of df |
| 22:55.47 | macnewbold | try df -i |
| 22:55.49 | macnewbold | :) |
| 22:56.20 | lukfugl | macnewbold: yup, that's it. And sure enough, I'm out of inodes |
| 22:56.22 | lukfugl | oh joy |
| 22:56.45 | macnewbold | ouch |
| 22:56.47 | macnewbold | too many tiny files |
| 22:56.57 | macnewbold | find everything of size 0 and delete it? |
| 22:56.59 | macnewbold | :-D |
| 22:57.26 | findlay | how many files? |
| 22:58.05 | findlay | find /mnt/replete_with_inodes -type f | xargs wc -l |
| 22:58.23 | findlay | a lot? |
| 22:58.43 | findlay | 1024? |
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| 22:58.51 | findlay | 65536? |
| 22:59.22 | findlay | 5192296858534827628530496329220096? |
| 22:59.40 | findlay | 26959946667150639794667015087019630673637144422540572481103610249216?!@!?? |
| 22:59.44 | lukfugl | a lotwell, don't want the xargs :) started that and it was telling me the line count for each file :) |
| 23:00.03 | findlay | oh, yeah, right |
| 23:00.08 | Kuyaedz | mrpull: good luck |
| 23:00.09 | lukfugl | running it now (just piping to wc, not xargs), taking a while |
| 23:00.10 | macnewbold | yeah, without the xargs you'd get it to wc stdin |
| 23:00.13 | findlay | well that could be useful information after all |
| 23:00.36 | lukfugl | findlay: not if I have to examine the line count for thousands (probably millions) of files |
| 23:00.42 | findlay | the total number of lines in all files on that filesystem |
| 23:00.44 | lukfugl | I expect there are a lot of files |
| 23:00.53 | findlay | I mean, what if your life depended on that number? |
| 23:00.58 | lukfugl | heh |
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| 23:01.43 | macnewbold | hm, I wonder if there's an option for du to make it count inodes instead of blocks or kilobytes |
| 23:02.32 | findlay | ibot a trilobyte is exactly 3072 bytes |
| 23:02.33 | ibot | okay, findlay |
| 23:03.02 | findlay | ibot: I'm surprised you didn't know that already |
| 23:03.11 | findlay | ibot: do you know everything? |
| 23:03.13 | ibot | yes, I know everything. |
| 23:03.18 | findlay | ha |
| 23:03.22 | findlay | whatever |
| 23:05.21 | lukfugl | ok, assuming I can't do much about how many files there are, is there someway to increase the total number of inodes (ie. increase number of available inodes but without decreasing number of used inodes) |
| 23:05.38 | levi | Yay, more lisp discussion on plug. |
| 23:07.06 | levi | macnewbold: I would be happy to have an excuse to replace this box. It's a pIII-450. |
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| 23:20.07 | Kuyaedz | I'm wanting to digitize some old text (journals, etc). What would you guys suggest as the best medium? Should I just transcribe it into UTF-8? |
| 23:21.23 | lukfugl | hrmmm |
| 23:21.37 | lukfugl | this is bad news |
| 23:24.05 | lukfugl | whoever setup this server initially, didn't create many partitions. There's /, /boot and /dev/shm, that's it. So now / is out of inodes |
| 23:25.47 | lukfugl | soft links eat inodes, don't they? |
| 23:26.12 | lukfugl | e.g. created with ln -s |
| 23:26.30 | levi | Yes. |
| 23:30.03 | lukfugl | sanity check: tar, by default, will *not* descend into symlinks, it just notes that there is one... right? |
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| 23:30.47 | lukfugl | I've found a directory that as far as I can tell shouldn't even be there, and within it are 177604 symlinks. I'm tarring it up before nuking it. |
| 23:31.11 | macnewbold | hmmm... been hax0r3d lately? |
| 23:32.03 | lukfugl | macnewbold: no, it just looks like someone (or some broken script) copied the wrong source to the wrong destination |
| 23:32.26 | lukfugl | and then recursed |
| 23:32.33 | lukfugl | horrible horrible pain |
| 23:35.17 | macnewbold | yucky |
| 23:43.56 | lukfugl | hmm, well, nuking that directory freed up 1% of my inodes... it's progress I guess. And good enough for tonight. |
| 23:44.02 | lukfugl | thanks for the help, guys |
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