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| 00:44.59 | elg | somebody shoot fozz |
| 00:48.22 | findlay | ~shoot fozz |
| 00:48.24 | ibot | ACTION shoots fozz in the head with a spitwad! |
| 00:59.31 | tensai | ~rlart |
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| 01:06.26 | findlay | I love being a genius |
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| 01:25.09 | lars-ut | ~rlart |
| 01:25.42 | lars-ut | ~gir tensai |
| 01:25.57 | lars-ut | ~emulate gir |
| 01:25.58 | ibot | where's my moose? |
| 01:26.06 | tensai | I want some taquitos! |
| 01:26.09 | lars-ut | lol |
| 01:26.19 | tensai | I love this show |
| 01:26.35 | lars-ut | whatcha watchin' now? |
| 01:27.04 | tensai | no, that was a gir quote too |
| 01:27.22 | lars-ut | the monkey one. |
| 01:27.44 | lars-ut | gir was watching a monkey on tv if I recall correctly |
| 01:27.51 | tensai | is there any show he doesn't like watching? |
| 01:28.23 | lars-ut | good point - but I seem to recall zim wanting to watch a military show & gir changing the channel |
| 01:28.35 | nick125 | is picking up 580 APs in 35 minutes when wardriving good? :D |
| 01:29.18 | lars-ut | nick125: depends how many are unsecured |
| 01:29.18 | nick125 | I think only less then 40 were secured |
| 01:29.18 | lars-ut | nick125: but yes! |
| 01:29.18 | lars-ut | ~praise nick125 |
| 01:29.28 | ibot | All hail nick125! |
| 01:29.29 | nick125 | I think 37 were secured |
| 01:29.42 | nick125 | thats just with my builtin wireless in my lappy |
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| 01:30.49 | nick125_lappy | that was fun though.. |
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| 01:33.29 | graphyx_home | anyone here play with curcuity? Ie soldier and such? |
| 01:36.15 | findlay | what are you working on? |
| 01:39.30 | graphyx_home | Trying to fix a tv. |
| 01:39.32 | elg | graphyx_home: are you trying to make an IR receiver? |
| 01:39.36 | graphyx_home | I got it at a yardsale for $15. |
| 01:39.42 | graphyx_home | The power cord was disconnected. |
| 01:39.48 | graphyx_home | I didn't see the other potential damage. |
| 01:40.07 | graphyx_home | But after I connected that and it didn't work I found a couple other potential problems. |
| 01:40.26 | graphyx_home | I have what looks like 2 leaking capacitors and a burnt resistor. |
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| 01:40.40 | graphyx_home | I took some pictures, wanna take a look? |
| 01:46.01 | findlay | graphyx_home: do you know the specs on the parts you suspect to be bad? |
| 01:46.48 | graphyx_home | no. |
| 01:46.54 | findlay | if you have fried components then that indicates a problem. Was the problem water damage, was it a short somewhere? |
| 01:47.05 | graphyx_home | I have the part number on the board and the manufacturer and model number, but that is it. |
| 01:47.16 | findlay | perhaps one piece failed and caused the failure of the others |
| 01:47.26 | graphyx_home | The capacitors will be easy, but the resistors going to be hard to determine unless the resister isn't burnt on the underside. |
| 01:47.37 | findlay | capacitors should say what capacitance they have |
| 01:47.47 | findlay | and resistors are easy to decode the colored bands |
| 01:49.38 | graphyx_home | unless they are burnt. |
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| 02:33.19 | levi | Good evening. |
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| 03:07.56 | maquis | -lart tensai |
| 03:08.07 | maquis | tensai: what's up over there? storms? |
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| 03:37.28 | nick125 | anyone here experienced with openvpn tunnels? |
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| 04:49.35 | mheath | Sigh. |
| 04:50.03 | mheath | I have a friend completely unfamiliar with hyperthreading, dual cores, etc...he's convinced that his laptop is *slower* because his processor is a hyperthreading one. |
| 04:50.26 | mheath | Because "it creates a virtual processor and that uses RAM and thats lame" |
| 04:52.18 | mheath | Sigh. |
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| 05:11.46 | mheath | Off to enjoy my 6 hours of sleep -.- |
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| 05:22.09 | herlo_home | found this cool help guide: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=14 |
| 05:22.37 | herlo_home | really, its not more than the first couple clicks and you are on your way, but hey, its nice to hav |
| 05:22.39 | herlo_home | e |
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| 17:43.04 | xbmodder_newlapp | yay |
| 17:43.08 | xbmodder_newlapp | :-D |
| 17:43.32 | findlay | ~burn xbmodder_newlapp's newlapp |
| 17:43.35 | ibot | ibot pours gasoline all over xbmodder_newlapp's newlapp, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 17:44.26 | maquis | -lart xbmodder_newlapp |
| 17:46.52 | xbmodder_newlapp | :-( |
| 17:49.34 | findlay | ~bzfrag maquis |
| 17:49.35 | ibot | ACTION skewers maquis with a super bullet |
| 17:51.41 | findlay | brac: what can you do? |
| 17:51.41 | brac | dunno |
| 17:51.46 | findlay | -dunno |
| 17:52.06 | findlay | brac: that didn't work |
| 18:00.48 | xbmodder_newlapp | I do not want to hack my kernel (pacifically the ipw3945 module) |
| 18:04.53 | xbmodder_newlapp | Anyone have an IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T60? |
| 18:40.19 | nick125 | my ipw3945 just *worked* |
| 18:40.51 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 18:45.01 | nick125 | wewt |
| 18:45.10 | nick125 | time to go wardriving until my battery goes dead! :D |
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| 18:46.06 | nick125_lappy | hmm... |
| 18:46.16 | nick125_lappy | this is gonna be fun.. |
| 18:48.07 | herlo_home | just went to the Springville "Art City Days" parade, Pete Ashdown was driving the Blue Eagle down main street all by himself... |
| 18:48.48 | findlay | nice |
| 18:48.52 | findlay | (: |
| 18:49.10 | herlo_home | yeah, there was one guy on either side of the road handing out Postcards.... |
| 18:49.19 | xbmodder_newlapp | cool |
| 18:49.31 | herlo_home | I thought, Pete man, you need more people in your huge RV |
| 18:49.43 | herlo_home | I took a good picture, it was pretty cool |
| 18:50.20 | herlo_home | xbmodder_newlapp, how do you like your new lappy? |
| 18:51.21 | xbmodder_newlapp | I love it, but it has alotta unsupported hardware |
| 18:53.28 | nick125_lappy | i think the only think thats unsupported here is the bluetooth (haven't really tried), and SD reader |
| 18:56.09 | xbmodder_newlapp | bluetooth was easy |
| 18:57.40 | nick125 | with the 3945 |
| 18:57.41 | nick125 | ? |
| 18:59.03 | xbmodder_newlapp | the 3945 doesn't do bluetooth |
| 18:59.05 | xbmodder_newlapp | its seperate |
| 18:59.23 | nick125 | it is? oh..:P |
| 19:03.05 | nick125_lappy | bbl :p |
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| 19:37.05 | levi2 | Mmm, yummy sandwich. |
| 19:40.24 | findlay | ~steal levi2's sandwitch |
| 19:40.25 | ibot | ACTION grabs levi2's sandwitch and gives it to findlay |
| 19:43.17 | levi2 | findlay: I don't think you'd want it anymore, now that it's on its way through my digestive system. |
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| 20:04.54 | nick125_ | got slightly better results today |
| 20:05.05 | nick125_ | 480 APs, 198 secured |
| 20:05.33 | nick125_ | I'm only about 1/3 done though |
| 20:06.02 | nick125_ | wee :D |
| 20:06.14 | nick125_ | I didn't know the courts here had a VNC... |
| 20:06.31 | xbmodder_newlapp | check your hard drive speed |
| 20:06.50 | nick125_ | eh? |
| 20:06.58 | xbmodder_newlapp | hdparm -tT /dev/hda |
| 20:07.27 | nick125_ | 35MB/s buffered, 4000MB/s cached |
| 20:07.37 | nick125_ | I tested it last night |
| 20:08.48 | xbmodder_newlapp | mheath, picture? |
| 20:09.20 | mheath | http://resources.seacadets.org/award/ribyouth.html |
| 20:09.25 | brac | [NSCC Awards Manual: NLUS Youth Medal and Ribbon] |
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| 20:20.47 | spr_ | Hey, anyone know how to edit fields in a .deb files description? (like the maintainer field) |
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| 20:29.32 | vontrapp | anyone have the motorolla razr? what do you think of it? |
| 20:34.48 | levi2 | I don't have it, but I've seen 'em. They look pretty slick. |
| 20:35.18 | vontrapp | it seems i've heard some negative about them, don't remember who, what, where or when |
| 20:36.43 | levi2 | The Slivr sounds cool. It's thinner than the razr and has 512mb of flash and bluetooth. |
| 20:36.57 | macnewbold | my partner has one of the two, unless I'm mistaken, and likes it quite a bit |
| 20:37.11 | macnewbold | he tried several phones for 5-6 days each before settling on this one |
| 20:37.24 | vontrapp | who makes the slivr? |
| 20:37.26 | levi2 | The razr is a flip phone, while the slivr is not. |
| 20:37.28 | macnewbold | same |
| 20:37.32 | levi2 | They're both motorola. |
| 20:37.33 | macnewbold | ah, then his is the razr |
| 20:38.17 | levi2 | I guess the v3 razr has bluetooth, too. |
| 20:39.25 | vontrapp | it's got a digital zoom which is dumb, but it's not like any phone actually has optical zoom |
| 20:39.40 | vontrapp | i'm just trying to remember what it is somebody told me about it once |
| 20:40.12 | vontrapp | the razr has bluetooth as well, right? |
| 20:40.24 | vontrapp | "Connect your phone to your headset or computer without any wires." |
| 20:40.39 | vontrapp | i hate these feature descriptions for the layman |
| 20:40.49 | levi2 | Yes it does. |
| 20:40.55 | vontrapp | just give me a cut and dry feature list, sheesh |
| 20:41.45 | levi2 | Motorola's own page does. |
| 20:42.03 | vontrapp | one thing that would be nice is something that can play mp3s as ring tones |
| 20:42.57 | levi2 | It may be able to. |
| 20:43.02 | levi2 | Most phones can these days. |
| 20:43.17 | levi2 | I don't actually like mp3 ringtones, though. |
| 20:43.24 | xbmodder_newlapp | which motorola phones run linux? |
| 20:43.26 | xbmodder_newlapp | OGG is betta |
| 20:43.45 | levi2 | xbmodder_newlapp: You're such a dork. |
| 20:43.53 | vontrapp | with bluetooth, can you load ringtones onto it and such? |
| 20:44.05 | levi2 | I'm not sure, but possibly. |
| 20:44.39 | vontrapp | levi2: i don't either in general, esp not the general publics idea of a good mp3 ring tone, but i have some clips that i woul like as ring tones |
| 20:44.51 | xbmodder_newlapp | levi2, I think the Q runs Linux |
| 20:44.58 | levi2 | The problem with mp3 ring tones would not be any better with ogg. Waveform tones instead of midi-like tones just sound muddy. |
| 20:45.02 | xbmodder_newlapp | Ogg is nice because it has better compression |
| 20:45.12 | vontrapp | i don't want a full blown computer as a cell phone |
| 20:45.16 | vontrapp | something small and simple |
| 20:45.30 | levi2 | xbmodder_newlapp: I don't care! |
| 20:45.42 | xbmodder_newlapp | ok... |
| 20:45.59 | findlay | levi2: you have to care! |
| 20:46.04 | levi2 | findlay: No! |
| 20:46.06 | vontrapp | it's true, waveforms do sound real muddy |
| 20:46.39 | vontrapp | but i wonder if you have something that's not to 'busy'... |
| 20:46.53 | findlay | if I had a cellphone my 'ringtone' (who came up with that stupid name anyway?) anyway, if I had a cellphone the 'ringtone' would be a single beep |
| 20:46.54 | vontrapp | one melody, no voice |
| 20:47.08 | findlay | a nice, pleasant sounding beep, not too loud |
| 20:47.22 | vontrapp | ~beep findlay |
| 20:47.23 | ibot | ACTION informs findlay that the beeper is no longer in service |
| 20:47.23 | xbmodder_newlapp | beep beep beep beep beep beep beep |
| 20:47.29 | xbmodder_newlapp | does that sound attractive? |
| 20:47.40 | vontrapp | sorry findlay, no beep available for your dream phone |
| 20:47.47 | findlay | xbmodder_newlapp: you've got the frequency all wrong |
| 20:48.01 | findlay | it should be: beep beep beep |
| 20:48.16 | vontrapp | my brother's had a ring that sounded just like one of those old rotary phones, i loved it |
| 20:48.17 | xbmodder_newlapp | lmao... |
| 20:49.03 | Kuyaedz | What do ya'll suggest for nightly automated XP snapshots? |
| 20:49.06 | findlay | vontrapp: just don;t try for a full orchesra |
| 20:49.12 | findlay | that would be busy |
| 20:49.39 | findlay | Kuyaedz: rsync? |
| 20:49.41 | vontrapp | tchaikovsky |
| 20:49.52 | vontrapp | or mahler |
| 20:49.55 | vontrapp | :) |
| 20:49.56 | Kuyaedz | rsync availble for MS? |
| 20:50.11 | findlay | cygwin perhaps? |
| 20:50.54 | findlay | Mahler can be pretty thin depending on what mood he's in |
| 20:51.17 | Kuyaedz | working on a backup solution for a client.. I wonder if we NEED full backups or just My Docs, etc.. |
| 20:51.28 | findlay | by 'busy' you probably mean the density of different wavelengths of sound happening simultaneously |
| 20:51.58 | findlay | in that case metallica would probably be very busy even though they only have 4 players |
| 20:52.11 | vontrapp | yes, true |
| 20:52.32 | vontrapp | i was thinking of mahler at the peek of 'resurrection' with the two timpanies, gong, and all that |
| 20:52.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Kuyaedz, rsync for windows has a bad habit of copying all files regardless, assuming it's windows <--> windows |
| 20:52.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Never tried windows <--> linux though |
| 20:53.14 | findlay | a complicated waveform to expect a 1/2" tweeter to emulate |
| 20:53.19 | findlay | peak perhaps? |
| 20:53.30 | Kuyaedz | the setup is linux server (samba share + backups) and two office XP machines. |
| 20:53.33 | findlay | ScytheBlade1: what do you mean by 'all files'? |
| 20:53.41 | findlay | regardless |
| 20:53.43 | ScytheBlade1 | findlay, I mean all files, new, changed, or not |
| 20:53.47 | macnewbold | Kuyaedz: rsync is in cgywin, I use it for stuff like that |
| 20:53.54 | macnewbold | you might also check unison |
| 20:54.00 | vontrapp | findlay: just checking your visual accuity, yes, peak |
| 20:54.12 | findlay | ScytheBlade1: even when you're using a filter that checks for mtimes? |
| 20:54.31 | macnewbold | but I only use cygwin rsync to linux/unix servers, not other cygwin |
| 20:54.49 | ScytheBlade1 | findlay, define "filter"... rsync for me (under linux) has always copied new/changed files and nothing more by default |
| 20:54.58 | Kuyaedz | Mine would be going XP -> linux. |
| 20:55.01 | ScytheBlade1 | findlay, which differs from the verions I've used on windows |
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| 20:56.01 | nick125_ | linksys - america's number 1 isp |
| 20:56.12 | xbmodder_newlapp | lol |
| 20:56.33 | nick125_ | :D |
| 20:56.51 | nick125_ | I love it when people put their full name and address in their ssid |
| 20:57.11 | Kuyaedz | ohh jeez |
| 20:57.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Drive-by ID thieft |
| 20:57.34 | nick125_ | hahahah |
| 20:57.50 | nick125_ | let's see... |
| 20:58.16 | nick125_ | this is funny |
| 20:58.37 | macnewbold | Kuyaedz: when I've rsync'd with cygwin on XP, it has worked just like normal. It's all in the options you give it |
| 20:58.41 | findlay | vontrapp: I would suggest the buildup of »Das Tanzlied« into »Nachtwandlerlied« from »Also sprach Zarathustra« |
| 20:58.57 | Kuyaedz | macnewbold: I'll try it. thanks |
| 20:59.19 | findlay | gong, bass drum, full orchestra, orchestra bells, a good tutta forza |
| 20:59.28 | Kuyaedz | I wish I had the storage space for nightly complete images (ghost?) but I think, for now, I'll use rsync for important data |
| 20:59.51 | nick125_ | its slightly bad when people put more info in their ssid then in theit resume |
| 20:59.56 | macnewbold | look at rsnapshot too if you like, I've loved it for my backups |
| 21:00.22 | nick125_ | brb |
| 21:00.31 | Kuyaedz | I've looked at rsnapshot (and even Mike's original rsync tutorial) but never spent the time to get it all right |
| 21:01.02 | findlay | or the organ+brass theme from the 2nd half of the 2nd movement of Saint-Saëns symphony no. 3 «avec Orgue» |
| 21:01.10 | macnewbold | it was pretty easy to set up when I did it, |
| 21:01.14 | macnewbold | but I wasn't trying on XP :) |
| 21:02.05 | Kuyaedz | I just use a homegrown script for my home backups (${date}.tar | thru bz2) for my Db and htdocs |
| 21:02.37 | Kuyaedz | ..but that is just for my webserver |
| 21:03.21 | Kuyaedz | I should setup a cron to rsync /home to my shared backup drive.. just haven't gotten around to it |
| 21:04.23 | macnewbold | that's about what rsnapshot does, if you only have it keep one snapshot |
| 21:04.34 | macnewbold | but the extra disk space for more snaps is quite small generally |
| 21:05.09 | Kuyaedz | yeah. its really pretty genius |
| 21:05.22 | macnewbold | we keep monthlies, weeklies, dailies, and hourlies and it fits quite nicely |
| 21:05.57 | macnewbold | I back up 3 whole servers (whole drive) and the important stuff off two others (about 10GB on one, and 2-5GB on the other) in one 250GB hard drive |
| 21:06.13 | vontrapp | if i were to go to a store and talk to a salesperson, how would i ask for computer connectivity? |
| 21:07.41 | macnewbold | what kind of connectivity? |
| 21:08.16 | vontrapp | easy kind, with no charge (do they or can they charge you for that? it seems i've heard that before) |
| 21:08.39 | vontrapp | usb perhaps, or bluetooth |
| 21:09.49 | macnewbold | connectivity from a computer to what? |
| 21:09.57 | vontrapp | to cell phone |
| 21:10.09 | vontrapp | address book, midi files, etc |
| 21:10.17 | macnewbold | aha |
| 21:10.22 | macnewbold | now that makes sense :) |
| 21:10.36 | macnewbold | a lot of places call it something like a "mobile office kit" or somesuch |
| 21:10.47 | vontrapp | ah, i guess you missed the first session of the conversation |
| 21:10.51 | macnewbold | or you can just go online and look for a compatible cable |
| 21:11.03 | macnewbold | though I suppose the software that you'd buy with it at the store might help |
| 21:11.18 | macnewbold | oh, the razr conversation? |
| 21:14.17 | Kuyaedz | anyone know a good way to setup dyndns on the script/server level? (I normally used the option in the router. This router doesn't have that option) |
| 21:19.59 | xbmodder_newlapp | nick125, Do you think its worth learning C/ hacking ipw3945 to work correctly |
| 21:21.05 | macnewbold | learning C is almost always a good idea. If you don't yet know C, hacking your kernel is probably beyond what I would recommend attempting without some help. |
| 21:23.45 | xbmodder_newlapp | I know python, mainly its some logic code of the driver which is very gross... |
| 21:28.34 | macnewbold | so is there an existing driver that's broken, and you just need to tweak it? or is there no driver at all for your hw? |
| 21:30.32 | mheath | Hmmm. |
| 21:30.35 | mheath | ~lart ribbon bars |
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| 21:33.40 | mheath | If you think that sliding a piece of metal-backed fabric along a metal guide is easy, you're wrong. |
| 21:34.01 | nick125 | mmm....came home to open the new power adapter :P |
| 21:54.14 | findlay | what does 's' mean in terms of file permissions? |
| 22:01.17 | tristanbob | findlay: setuid? |
| 22:01.32 | tristanbob | or stickybit? |
| 22:02.04 | tristanbob | run as the owner of the file instead of the user who is executing the script |
| 22:03.56 | findlay | tristanbob: rws------ is setuid |
| 22:04.05 | findlay | ---rws--- is setgid |
| 22:04.05 | brac | can do! |
| 22:04.17 | findlay | brac: no you can't! |
| 22:04.55 | findlay | r-S------ is setuid while user himself can't execute |
| 22:05.35 | findlay | same for group and finally ------rwt is sticky |
| 22:06.31 | findlay | thus without anyone's permission I have expounded unix permissions |
| 22:06.35 | tristanbob | findlay: sounds like you answered your own question |
| 22:06.40 | findlay | yeah |
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| 22:26.19 | tristanbob | hey can someone give me the location of the openoffice gallery directory? |
| 22:26.31 | tristanbob | in ubuntu 6.06? |
| 22:28.20 | tristanbob | -cat /etc/passwd |
| 22:28.42 | tristanbob | brac: you don't obey my commands? |
| 22:28.43 | brac | no idea |
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| 22:31.55 | tene | ---rws--- |
| 22:32.22 | dilvie | hi =) |
| 22:32.34 | tene | hi :) |
| 22:33.27 | dilvie | what's up? |
| 22:33.35 | dilvie | Who's going to the Utah Bloggers conference on the 13th? |
| 22:34.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd have to actually blog to go :) |
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| 22:39.32 | nick125_ | hey |
| 22:40.32 | nick125_ | 885 in 2 hours...and 30 minutes or so of that was in a store or at home |
| 22:40.39 | dilvie | 885? |
| 22:40.51 | nick125_ | APs |
| 22:45.56 | nick125_ | 943 APs |
| 22:55.06 | nick125_ | 1003 :D |
| 22:58.32 | nick125_ | yay for the person who set their ssid to WindowsSucksOutLoud |
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