| 00:00.00 | findlay | I bet they could give me a million without even missing it |
| 00:01.24 | findlay | anybody else want to give me a million? |
| 00:11.24 | spengy | I'd like to |
| 00:11.26 | spengy | But I don't have it |
| 00:29.56 | nick125 | findlay: nah, but, you can give me one? |
| 00:30.25 | nick125 | or two |
| 00:30.42 | nick125 | two would be really nice of you |
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| 00:43.51 | lars-ut | http://kimbriggs.com/computers/computer-notes/linux-notes/samba-setup-guide.file |
| 00:43.54 | brac | [Basic Samba Setup with No Security: Fileserver with Nightly Backups] |
| 00:44.17 | lars-ut | excellent article |
| 00:44.40 | lars-ut | I just used the config for an office setup |
| 00:45.31 | lars-ut | night #utah |
| 00:45.54 | Tene | g'night |
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| 03:20.34 | scottj | I'm watching hugo chavez rail about how successful opec has been. From what I've heard (economist.com) opec isn't really limiting production since most countries are producing at capacity..anyone heard to the contrary? |
| 03:21.02 | scottj | that is, the production limits are about equal to capacity |
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| 03:25.38 | Uncle_Jesse | any Gentoo users in here? |
| 03:25.43 | nick125 | Uncle_Jesse: why.. |
| 03:26.10 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm trying to get it installed without a /boot partition and I'm getting "invalid boot device" errors on bootup |
| 03:26.45 | nick125 | what's giving that? init? |
| 03:26.59 | Uncle_Jesse | nick125: yeah - init |
| 03:27.25 | nick125 | you did remove /boot/ from fstab, right? |
| 03:27.54 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - no /boot in fstab |
| 03:28.22 | Uncle_Jesse | the only other thing I can think is I'm using a pci hard drive controller for the hard drive |
| 03:28.32 | Supaplex | /boot in fstab is for woosies. ;) |
| 03:28.37 | Uncle_Jesse | but I can chroot it just fine |
| 03:29.05 | Supaplex | which controller? and how old? |
| 03:29.19 | nick125 | well, its obviously mounting the partition... |
| 03:29.30 | nick125 | or..hrm... |
| 03:29.38 | Uncle_Jesse | Supaplex: can't remember - I'd have to open up the box and look |
| 03:29.39 | nick125 | it would remount the partition by init, wouldn't it? |
| 03:29.59 | Uncle_Jesse | nick125: I think that might be what it's trying to do. Grub seems to recognize it just fine |
| 03:30.25 | Supaplex | my promise udma66 didn't play well with the onboard scsi. the ps2 mouse, onboard scsi, promise udma66 (pci card), and usb all wanted the same irq :P |
| 03:30.49 | Supaplex | after some firmware updates for the mainboard and the controller, It's all good to go. |
| 03:31.13 | Uncle_Jesse | Supaplex: it's reading fine - I can mount it and read from it fine from the live cd, as well as Grub |
| 03:31.21 | nick125 | did you compile support into the kernel? |
| 03:31.51 | Uncle_Jesse | nick125: not sure what I needed to compile in for that - that could be it though |
| 03:32.39 | nick125 | can you load up the livecd and run lspci? |
| 03:32.49 | Uncle_Jesse | nick125: I'm using the genkernel though, and I'm able to read it in the livecd mode |
| 03:33.33 | Uncle_Jesse | 00:13.0 Mass storage controller: Silicon Image, Inc. PCI0680 Ultra ATA-133 Host Controller (rev 02) |
| 03:33.36 | Uncle_Jesse | it's in there |
| 03:34.06 | nick125 | run lsmod and see if you can see anything that would be relevent to that storage controller, maybe PCI0680 or something.. |
| 03:36.09 | Supaplex | euuuu sis |
| 03:37.23 | Uncle_Jesse | not sure if this is it: siimage 9344 0 [permanent] |
| 03:37.58 | nick125 | do you have the partition in use? or something to do with it in use? |
| 03:38.04 | nick125 | if so, it *should* be in use |
| 03:38.11 | Uncle_Jesse | I've mounted it, yes |
| 03:39.09 | Uncle_Jesse | very odd that I can mount it, read from it and write to it, but at init it doesn't recognize it |
| 03:41.39 | Supaplex | it's either initrd or static for modules you need to boot from. Eg, controllers and filesystems associated with / |
| 03:42.22 | nick125 | initrd....thats what I forgot about |
| 03:44.33 | Uncle_Jesse | there's an initramfs file in /boot |
| 03:44.48 | nick125 | maybe initrd can't read that? |
| 03:45.05 | nick125 | *cough*compile kernel by hand*cough* |
| 03:47.39 | Uncle_Jesse | <sigh>guess I'll give in</sigh> |
| 03:48.15 | nick125 | genkernel is bad. it puts your pet in the microwave. it steals candy from a baby. |
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| 04:01.18 | QBFreak | my lamp randomly turned itself on at 5am |
| 04:01.34 | nick125 | lol |
| 04:01.41 | QBFreak | I guess I should change the house code on all my X-10 modules |
| 04:01.50 | nick125 | lol |
| 04:02.02 | QBFreak | but that means reprogramming the set-top timer box |
| 04:02.31 | QBFreak | you think if I set it up to turn everything on and off at random whoever else nearby uses them will change their house code? :) |
| 04:02.35 | nick125 | you know what would be really interesting to do? browse the internet though like..100 proxies |
| 04:02.49 | QBFreak | that sounds...painful |
| 04:03.16 | nick125 | imagine if you basically when though US proxy, then Europe proxy, then back again, over cogent lines (where those transatlantic lines get 300-500ms latency) |
| 04:03.30 | nick125 | try up to 60000ms of latency or so.. |
| 04:03.38 | nick125 | wait, thats for 50 proxies |
| 04:03.48 | nick125 | nope, thats 120 proxies actually |
| 04:03.58 | nick125 | that would suck soo much |
| 04:04.25 | nick125 | 2 minutes just for a DNS request.. |
| 04:04.26 | QBFreak | at some point the browser would give up before the request ever made it :) |
| 04:04.51 | nick125 | nah, you just change all the timeouts to 60 minutes or so :P |
| 04:05.20 | QBFreak | I think I'd rather sell my neighbor's soul to AOL |
| 04:05.29 | nick125 | lol |
| 04:05.39 | QBFreak | "when did we sign up for AOL?" |
| 04:05.54 | nick125 | I would sell my neighbor's soul to the devil himself, with those bunches of trashy morons |
| 04:06.14 | QBFreak | your neighbors are morons? |
| 04:06.19 | nick125 | yes.. |
| 04:06.21 | QBFreak | mine aren't so bad |
| 04:06.26 | QBFreak | some of them are actually nice |
| 04:06.37 | nick125 | AOL? ain't that the drug dealer we bought from last time? |
| 04:07.42 | nick125 | I got an idea..Chinese Lag Torture! |
| 04:20.03 | tristanbob | I need to get an all-in-one printer |
| 04:20.18 | tristanbob | I think I read that Canon is the most anti-linux friendly |
| 04:20.28 | tristanbob | any recommendations on something good? |
| 04:21.04 | tristanbob | (Canon is the least linux friendly brand of printer) |
| 04:22.12 | QBFreak | all in one printer? it prints and it prints? |
| 04:23.07 | linuxalien | tristanbob, I like samsung |
| 04:23.18 | linuxalien | I've got a samsung laser printer and they have both linux and mac os x drivers |
| 04:23.26 | linuxalien | anyhow, i'm off to bed. nite |
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| 04:23.54 | tristanbob | QBFreak: what is the correct wording that I should use? |
| 04:24.07 | tristanbob | a muti-function printer? |
| 04:24.17 | QBFreak | heh, I'm just being difficult |
| 04:24.23 | tristanbob | I thought as much :) |
| 04:24.28 | QBFreak | I'd call it a PSC but I suspect that is an HP specific term |
| 04:24.56 | tristanbob | QBFreak: any recommendations? |
| 04:26.10 | QBFreak | for linux? no |
| 04:26.18 | QBFreak | my parents have an HP but they use windows |
| 04:26.38 | nick125 | I suspect that HP would have some of the better support for linux though |
| 04:26.40 | QBFreak | and I've yet to get my Epson (just printer) completly straightened out in linux, but that may have nothing to do with the brand |
| 04:26.59 | QBFreak | it prints with no bottom margin |
| 04:27.25 | QBFreak | I tried to print a long spreadsheet once and found it impossible to get all the of the data |
| 04:27.41 | tristanbob | how about scanners in linux? |
| 04:28.02 | nick125 | look into sane |
| 04:28.07 | QBFreak | never tried one |
| 04:28.19 | nick125 | I tried one a long time ago with FC1, it didn't work |
| 04:28.25 | nick125 | haven't tried since then though |
| 04:28.27 | QBFreak | its always so freaking slow in linux for me, never like this in windows |
| 04:29.13 | QBFreak | ha! I just told gocomics.com that I was born in 1900 and my gender is 'n' (neutral) |
| 04:29.27 | nick125 | LOL |
| 04:29.29 | QBFreak | silly people don't validate their radio buttons |
| 04:29.50 | QBFreak | but they use flash now and I can't see the comics :( |
| 04:29.57 | QBFreak | I see a gray box |
| 04:30.20 | nick125 | theres only one thing I can think of thats worse then flash |
| 04:30.30 | Uncle_Jesse | shockwave? |
| 04:30.33 | QBFreak | embedded midis? |
| 04:30.38 | nick125 | HTML embedded in SVG |
| 04:31.48 | nick125 | tristanbob: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/inkjet_aio.html << |
| 04:31.54 | brac | [HPLIP Supported Devices] |
| 04:31.56 | QBFreak | wonderful, ucomics.com is only compatible with windows/osx |
| 04:32.07 | QBFreak | so much for daily foxtrot |
| 04:32.17 | nick125 | uhh.. |
| 04:32.30 | QBFreak | yes I'm being overly general |
| 04:32.41 | QBFreak | but I really don't feel like trying ot figure out WHY the flash isn't working right |
| 04:32.57 | QBFreak | as most other flash sites I come across work fine |
| 04:33.02 | Uncle_Jesse | why do you need flash for a comic? |
| 04:33.09 | nick125 | https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/ < *cough* *cough* |
| 04:33.12 | QBFreak | I would guess so I can't save it |
| 04:33.17 | QBFreak | easilly |
| 04:33.37 | Uncle_Jesse | flash is only good for streaming videos and sound |
| 04:33.51 | Uncle_Jesse | QBFreak: why not do that with javascript? |
| 04:33.57 | QBFreak | nick125: they don't check that |
| 04:33.59 | QBFreak | and I do have that |
| 04:34.05 | QBFreak | its the fact that it simply does not work |
| 04:34.20 | QBFreak | don't ask me, I didn't write the site, I just want to view a comic! |
| 04:34.25 | Uncle_Jesse | flash is *way* over-used |
| 04:36.16 | tristanbob | nick125: thanks for the link |
| 05:38.03 | QBFreak | I mentioned my lap turning itself on at 5am earlier, well my TV just turned itself off |
| 05:38.24 | QBFreak | either my HomeMinder is posessed or someone else around here is using house code B |
| 05:42.37 | nick125 | oh, sorry *changes* |
| 05:42.38 | nick125 | :p |
| 05:47.24 | QBFreak | heh |
| 05:52.01 | mheath[laptop] | Wow. I just got an odd graduation gift. |
| 05:52.37 | mheath[laptop] | I didn't know you could get cfresh cinnamon rolls through a mail order catalog. |
| 05:52.37 | Tene | a squid? |
| 05:52.57 | mheath[laptop] | "cinnfull cinnamon rolls" |
| 05:52.58 | mheath[laptop] | lmao |
| 05:53.06 | nick125 | hahah |
| 05:53.21 | mheath[laptop] | They came in a wooden box, too, though... |
| 05:53.41 | mheath[laptop] | looks like some old fashioned hat box...its round... |
| 05:54.03 | mheath[laptop] | These cinnamon rolls better be good, or else she paid like 10 times as much for the packaging. |
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| 06:36.36 | xbmodder_lappy | this is kinda funny.. This group of friends all thinks the others are clean. Slowly I am finding out none of them are, and they are all like 'don't tell the other' |
| 06:37.25 | QBFreak | none of them have showers? |
| 06:37.29 | xbmodder_lappy | :-| |
| 06:37.36 | Kuyaedz | :) |
| 06:37.42 | xbmodder_lappy | QBFreak, not funny... you just unfunnied the thing |
| 06:38.01 | QBFreak | oh well |
| 06:38.06 | QBFreak | here, play with my overclocked lighter |
| 06:38.18 | QBFreak | but if the nozzle catches fire put it out before it burns through and explodes |
| 06:38.44 | nick125 | mheath[laptop]: really? I thought I was the only one.. |
| 06:39.18 | mheath[laptop] | I have to wake up in 5 hours now. |
| 06:39.21 | QBFreak | whee |
| 06:39.38 | QBFreak | I have maybe 8, so I'm good still |
| 06:41.29 | mheath[laptop] | Go play sailor again. LMAO. |
| 06:47.48 | Tene | my guess is drugs |
| 06:52.25 | scottj | New screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=159134519&size=o |
| 06:52.32 | mheath[laptop] | giisbf |
| 06:52.53 | mheath[laptop] | Erm, OK. There's the home row. Laying down in bed and typing does't work |
| 06:53.02 | mheath[laptop] | Goodnight. |
| 06:53.06 | nick125 | lol |
| 06:53.10 | nick125 | night |
| 06:53.14 | QBFreak | later mheath[laptop] |
| 06:53.15 | nick125 | scottj: a mac? |
| 06:53.16 | Supaplex | already? |
| 06:53.31 | Supaplex | oh yea, that's why my last coherent brain cell is telling me. *zonk* |
| 06:53.44 | scottj | nick125: yep |
| 06:53.52 | nick125 | why a mac? |
| 06:53.57 | Supaplex | why not? |
| 06:54.04 | QBFreak | God gave us PCs for a reason! |
| 06:54.16 | Supaplex | to put in macs? |
| 06:54.21 | nick125 | I'm simply asking what reasons.. |
| 06:54.36 | mheath[laptop] | to waste time |
| 06:54.47 | mheath[laptop] | bye :) |
| 06:54.49 | Supaplex | to play hot spot x |
| 06:54.53 | nick125 | QBFreak: me neither, but, I'm just curious |
| 06:55.05 | nick125 | damnit |
| 06:55.14 | nick125 | I was going to make mheath watch captain copyright! |
| 06:55.40 | Supaplex | sms him |
| 06:57.11 | nick125 | I'm soo fscking bored |
| 06:57.31 | Tene | SMS == Short Message What? |
| 06:57.36 | scottj | nick125: nothing in particular, but I do really really love quicksilver |
| 06:57.51 | nick125 | Tene: service |
| 06:58.15 | Tene | ahh |
| 06:58.24 | Tene | I've been trying to remember that for quite a long time |
| 06:58.25 | Tene | >.> |
| 06:58.39 | nick125 | you know, if the new macbook pros could run linux easely, I would probably get one of those, simply because they look nice, small, plus, if I could dual boot it between linux and os x, that would be awesome.. |
| 06:59.18 | scottj | I think they do run linux just fine |
| 06:59.35 | nick125 | I heard you had to have windows installed, then, basically chain up bootloaders |
| 07:00.04 | nick125 | basically..like this |
| 07:00.12 | nick125 | the apple bootloader (bootcamp) would boot mac os x and windows |
| 07:00.26 | nick125 | then, in the windows bootloader, you would boot windows and linux |
| 07:00.32 | Tene | no grub? |
| 07:00.51 | nick125 | I heard there is work on macbook pro linux, though redhat |
| 07:00.55 | nick125 | nope, grub doesn't support EFI |
| 07:01.08 | nick125 | and, I don't think bootcamp can work with grub.. |
| 07:02.06 | Tene | screenshot time |
| 07:02.45 | nick125 | there is elilo, but, they have to port it to x86 |
| 07:03.29 | Tene | http://allalone.org/pics/itsascreenshot.png |
| 07:04.09 | nick125 | e17 eh |
| 07:04.20 | Tene | yeah |
| 07:04.35 | QBFreak | my desktop looks like crap |
| 07:04.43 | QBFreak | like my RL desk...and the rest of my room |
| 07:04.50 | Tene | you have feces set as your backgronud image? |
| 07:04.55 | nick125 | LOL |
| 07:06.00 | QBFreak | no, I have some sort of blue wallpaper I think I found on kde-look.com that says GNU/Linux, but overall things don't look all nice and pretty like yours |
| 07:06.47 | nick125 | http://continental.nick125.com/~nick/tmp/sexy-tooltip.png < that's the latest "screenshot" of my desktop (I took the screenshot to show a problem with SexyTooltip to a fellow developer) |
| 07:11.07 | scottj | is the new shelf any good? |
| 07:11.48 | nick125 | just if any of you are wondering, SexyTooltip doesn't work half of the time, it requires a seperate C dependancy (== a ***** to compile on windows), and, I reimplemented it with 40 lines of python/pygtk code.. |
| 07:11.56 | Tene | it's good |
| 07:17.41 | scottj | really better than iconbar? |
| 07:18.19 | Tene | never used iconbar |
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| 07:53.35 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: hey, I got an idea: instead of getting a dell server, how about we wait for the apple intel xserves? |
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| 15:46.41 | maquis | -lart Newsome |
| 15:46.45 | maquis | -roulette |
| 15:46.47 | brac | maquis: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 15:51.00 | maquis | -roulette |
| 15:51.01 | brac | maquis: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 15:51.02 | maquis | -roulette |
| 15:51.03 | brac | maquis: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 15:51.06 | maquis | -roulette |
| 15:51.07 | brac | maquis: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 15:51.09 | maquis | -roulette |
| 15:51.09 | brac | maquis: chamber 5 of 6 => +click+ |
| 15:51.30 | maquis | -roulette |
| 15:51.31 | brac | maquis: chamber 6 of 6 => *BANG* |
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| 16:37.54 | tristanbob | http://osvids.com/index.html |
| 16:37.58 | brac | [Video Library] |
| 16:41.00 | levi | Gah, the DSL guy apparently didn't fix anything. |
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| 17:52.27 | emcnabb | Internet access in my new house! |
| 17:52.48 | emcnabb | I now have something to do besides watch the grass grow |
| 17:52.52 | emcnabb | or sleep |
| 17:53.00 | emcnabb | or think about how I want a fridge |
| 17:53.01 | Kuyaedz | nice |
| 17:54.39 | jsmith | emcnabb: Or a fridge with internet access! |
| 17:58.40 | levi | Fridges are nice to have. |
| 17:58.53 | levi | I would probably have got one of those before internet access. :) |
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| 18:39.39 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
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| 18:51.23 | scottj | two nice little improvements in the macbook over the ibook that I haven't heard mentioned: if capslock is changed to control, the little light no longer comes on everytime it's pressed and when you plug or unplug headphones the volume is automatically reduced/increased. |
| 18:53.23 | levi | Ahh, nice. |
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| 19:05.44 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 19:17.06 | emcnabb | jsmith: they did have some pretty fancy fridges at this Lowes... but none with Internet access though :-) |
| 19:17.21 | jsmith | :-( |
| 19:27.13 | maquis | -lart emcnabb |
| 19:31.21 | elg | levi: i'm starting to read this book, plai |
| 19:31.45 | elg | in the preface now, but already excited. :) |
| 19:32.47 | emcnabb | -lart maquis |
| 19:32.49 | emcnabb | -lart elg |
| 19:33.11 | maquis | emcnabb: how's life going? |
| 19:33.26 | maquis | http://qntm.org/destroy |
| 19:37.17 | elg | that's so passe. we destroyed the earth last week on the way to utah |
| 19:37.27 | elg | (listened to the hhgg in the car) |
| 19:41.29 | maquis | :) |
| 20:10.04 | Kuyaedz | [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIMP_%28software_bundle%29] coincidence? |
| 20:13.11 | maquis | elg: are you in utah now? |
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| 20:17.39 | elg | yup |
| 20:20.43 | maquis | elg: cool! |
| 20:20.52 | maquis | you going to be around for the bbq next week? |
| 20:21.05 | elg | um, if the bbq were next week |
| 20:21.18 | maquis | it's not? |
| 20:21.20 | maquis | er... |
| 20:21.21 | maquis | right |
| 20:21.25 | maquis | 2 weeks from now |
| 20:21.26 | Kuyaedz | i hope its not |
| 20:22.22 | Kuyaedz | we've got our lug meet next week |
| 20:25.03 | xbmodder_lappy | first wednesday of the month? |
| 20:37.01 | mheath | ScytheBlade1, around? |
| 20:38.54 | mheath | Anyone who's tried Windows Vista around? |
| 20:39.12 | Kuyaedz | I don't think anyone is around |
| 20:42.54 | xbmodder_lappy | who tries windows vista |
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| 21:01.01 | Kuyaedz | uhh.. ibot is asexual now? |
| 21:01.32 | sjansen | Kuyaedz: probably not the word you were looking for |
| 21:03.17 | maquis | sjansen: sup? |
| 21:03.52 | sjansen | Just a quick pit stop in the office between trips. |
| 21:09.50 | maquis | ah |
| 21:09.59 | maquis | where were you and where are you headed? |
| 21:12.26 | sjansen | Tysons Corner, VA |
| 21:12.31 | sjansen | Indianapolis, IN |
| 21:18.38 | Kuyaedz | any BSD guys in here? |
| 21:20.25 | jlp_work | maybe |
| 21:21.44 | Kuyaedz | I was considering turning this extra PIII I have into a BSD machine for learning, etc. Just wondering how much work I'm in for :) |
| 21:28.39 | jsmith | Kuyaedz: Depends on how much you want to learn ;-) |
| 21:29.06 | Kuyaedz | I guess thats a good point. |
| 21:30.19 | Kuyaedz | I guess for starters I could just install it & start poking around. I had it installed last year for a few weeks.. |
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| 21:58.01 | nick125_ | xbmodder: sms me |
| 22:14.28 | xbmodder_lappy | uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 22:44.32 | emcnabb | I think I'm going to go on a hike; there's a forest preserve right across the street from our house |
| 22:49.46 | maquis | emcnabb: sounds like fun |
| 22:51.56 | spr | ~lart tiny pins |
| 23:05.36 | maquis | spr: ????? |
| 23:08.12 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: ping |
| 23:15.53 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=337648&pfp=cat3 < nice, ain't it? |
| 23:17.14 | nick125 | :D |
| 23:17.37 | nick125 | waiting for it to come in from el paso though..blarg |
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| 23:20.55 | nick125 | nvidia geforce 7400 go :D |
