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| 00:06.09 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: get on bzflag |
| 00:06.14 | nick125 | while I'm on hold with speakeasy |
| 00:08.36 | nick125 | okay |
| 00:08.46 | nick125 | speakeasy said they are gonna call me back when they get though to covad |
| 00:08.56 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: bzflag duty now! |
| 00:08.59 | nick125 | or else |
| 00:18.51 | xbmodder_lappy | brb |
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| 00:26.00 | nick125_ | speakeasy said they did something to the line to fix it, but, it still has the same problem |
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| 00:35.53 | nick125_ | fun.. |
| 00:36.11 | nick125_ | now speakeasy is saying that latency from test point->co is 0-10ms, and co->me is 80ms.. |
| 00:36.27 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 00:36.30 | xbmodder_lappy | is that true |
| 00:37.01 | nick125_ | they are calling covad again to get my line out of safe mode |
| 00:37.42 | nick125_ | this hold music burns |
| 00:38.37 | xbmodder_lappy | i am bzflaging |
| 00:39.09 | xbmodder_lappy | donde estas? |
| 00:39.46 | nick125_ | I'll be there in a sec |
| 00:59.31 | xbmodder_lappy | I get the error "cannot open root device "sda3 or unknown-block(0,0)" |
| 01:09.10 | xbmodder_lappy | any ideas why vlc is breaking: http://pastebin.ca/59761 |
| 01:09.39 | nick125_ | use mplayer |
| 01:09.42 | nick125_ | :P |
| 01:09.56 | xbmodder_lappy | mplayer does this: |
| 01:10.13 | xbmodder_lappy | Requested audio codec family [faad] (afm=faad) not available. |
| 01:10.45 | nick125_ | emerge mplayer with faad support? heh |
| 01:10.48 | nick125_ | grrrrrrrrrr |
| 01:11.08 | nick125_ | I have to go up in the attic and hook the damn DSL modem up there |
| 01:11.08 | xbmodder_lappy | [ebuild R ] media-video/mplayer-1.0.20060415 -3dfx -3dnow -3dnowext +X -aac +aalib +alsa (-altivec) -arts -bidi -bindist -bl -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -debug -dga -directfb -doc -dts -dv -dvb +dvd -dvdread -edl +encode +esd -fbcon -ggi +gif +gtk -i8x0 +ipv6 -jack -joystick +jpeg +libcaca +lirc -live -livecd -lzo +mad -matroska -matrox +mmx -mmxext -musepack -nas -nvidia +openal +opengl +oss +png -real -rtc +samba +sdl -sse -sse2 +sv |
| 01:11.08 | xbmodder_lappy | ga -tga -theora +truetype +unicode -v4l -v4l2 +vorbis +win32codecs +x264 -xanim -xinerama +xmms +xv +xvid -xvmc 0 kB |
| 01:11.08 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
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| 01:13.00 | nick125_ | mm |
| 01:14.35 | linuxalien | Happy Memorial Day |
| 01:15.58 | nick125_ | xbmodder_lappy: link to this file? |
| 01:21.30 | xbmodder_lappy | umm |
| 01:22.16 | nick125_ | otherwise, I'm gonna turn your lappy into a freebsd box |
| 01:22.27 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 01:22.45 | xbmodder_lappy | yay! |
| 01:22.51 | xbmodder_lappy | they put the WMV version up |
| 01:22.59 | nick125_ | of what |
| 01:23.07 | nick125_ | xbmodder_lappy: so, about the server move.. |
| 01:26.16 | xbmodder_lappy | http://pastebin.ca/59771 |
| 01:26.47 | nick125_ | xbmodder_lappy: PM me |
| 01:35.20 | xbmodder_lappy | has anyone here seen brick? |
| 01:46.40 | goozbach | ~seen brick? |
| 01:47.04 | ibot | brick <n=brick@user-11fab58.dsl.mindspring.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 15d 6h 30m 43s ago, saying: 'tarzeau, what i understood inthe configurator help is that CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=17 will do the trick'. |
| 01:48.16 | goozbach | ~lart long layovers |
| 01:53.39 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: bzflag now |
| 01:55.57 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: dude, huge bzflag game!! |
| 02:01.39 | xbmodder_lappy | where is everyone? |
| 02:01.44 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, I mean movie |
| 02:01.47 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, what you upto? |
| 02:06.07 | xbmodder_lappy | I HATE ETHERNET! |
| 02:06.08 | xbmodder_lappy | This is through a 1Gbit/sec uplink: [ 5] 0.0-10.0 sec 2.50 MBytes 2.10 Mbits/sec 0.045 ms 0/ 893 (0%) |
| 02:06.15 | xbmodder_lappy | [ 5] 0.0-10.0 sec 810 MBytes 680 Mbits/sec |
| 02:06.21 | xbmodder_lappy | I think thats a little better |
| 02:06.49 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: I think your hatred is misplaced. |
| 02:08.48 | xbmodder_lappy | its because a bad ethernet cable |
| 02:09.05 | levi | Well, that's no reason to hate ethernet, is it? |
| 02:09.10 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 02:09.16 | xbmodder_lappy | but this is the third time today |
| 02:09.28 | levi | I can't help it if you suck at making ethernet cables. |
| 02:09.40 | xbmodder_lappy | prebuilt from fry's |
| 02:09.58 | levi | Well, I can't help it if fry's sucks at making ethernet cables, either. |
| 02:10.13 | xbmodder_lappy | I think they resell... |
| 02:10.14 | levi | The fact that gigabit enternet works at all over UTP is pretty amazing. |
| 02:10.26 | levi | Er, s/enternet/ethernet/ |
| 02:19.58 | nick125 | wow...alot of players on bzflag |
| 02:20.10 | nick125 | and cacti graphs still aren't working |
| 02:20.25 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: can you see how much b/w the server is currently using? |
| 02:20.31 | nick125 | then pm it to me on bzflag |
| 02:24.30 | GvzEvxre | cacti graphs? |
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| 02:30.42 | levi | Hello? |
| 02:30.42 | nick125 | yeah |
| 02:30.43 | nick125 | hi |
| 02:30.48 | levi | This is bizarre. |
| 02:31.15 | QBFreak | no, I am bizarre! |
| 02:31.25 | levi | screen is very confused. |
| 02:31.28 | QBFreak | heh |
| 02:31.32 | goozbach | GvzEvxre: cacti is a monitoring rrdtool graphing solution |
| 02:31.49 | goozbach | levi: ctrl-l |
| 02:32.01 | QBFreak | one of my boxes that runs in console mode will not clear the highlighted characters off the display when blanking |
| 02:32.10 | levi | goozbach: it switch me from one irssi session to another. |
| 02:32.22 | levi | goozbach: That made it switch etc. |
| 02:33.08 | levi | So screwy. Time to kill everything and log in again. |
| 02:33.08 | goozbach | one session to another? |
| 02:33.44 | goozbach | hmm... i could have helped him track down the problem |
| 02:33.53 | goozbach | blargfooblarg |
| 02:34.08 | goozbach | tomorrow is gonna SUCK |
| 02:34.30 | goozbach | not getting home till after midnight will do that |
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| 02:35.18 | goozbach | why are all the cute ones taken? |
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| 02:36.01 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: we've got a problem on bzflag.. |
| 02:36.05 | goozbach | cute blonde sitting next to me is hacking away at some perl code. |
| 02:36.25 | goozbach | too bad she's got a ring on her finger :( |
| 02:36.34 | QBFreak | ok, resolved most issues, it says using a hash as a reference is depreciated, what exactly is using a hash as a reference? |
| 02:38.59 | goozbach | QBFreak: using any older modules? |
| 02:39.07 | QBFreak | its my code |
| 02:39.37 | QBFreak | the line looks like this: if ( exists %commandChar->{$chan} ) { $cmdChar = %commandChar->{$chan}; } |
| 02:42.29 | goozbach | something there doesn't look right |
| 02:42.50 | QBFreak | feel free to correct, I'm stumbling around in the dark here :) |
| 02:42.54 | goozbach | try without the curlies |
| 02:43.05 | goozbach | or like this: |
| 02:43.42 | goozbach | $commandChar{$chan} |
| 02:43.42 | QBFreak | the curly brackets are only for things like %commandChar->{default} ? |
| 02:44.09 | QBFreak | if I switch to a $ isn't it going to fuss about not being declared? |
| 02:44.09 | levi | Is that perl? |
| 02:44.13 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 02:44.57 | QBFreak | maybe I should state what I'm doing... I have this hash called commandChar that has a 'default' key/value and the optionally has one per channel |
| 02:45.06 | goozbach | QBFreak: nope $foo{bar} is a single enitiy inside the hash |
| 02:45.12 | QBFreak | I want to get the one for the channel or the default if none |
| 02:45.32 | QBFreak | ah ok |
| 02:46.06 | goozbach | the curlies disapear when you use the=> syntax |
| 02:46.37 | QBFreak | so $foo{bar} and $foo{$var} work the same assuming $var contains 'bar' ? |
| 02:46.42 | goozbach | $foo{bar} is the same as $foo=>bar |
| 02:47.24 | goozbach | whis is the scalar enity inside of %foo referenced by bar |
| 02:48.05 | QBFreak | where 'bar' is a key, ok, I think that makes sense |
| 02:49.22 | levi | I hate perl hashes. |
| 02:50.20 | tensai | here's how the -> works. %foo=(a=>1); $bar = \%foo; print $bar->{a}; |
| 02:50.58 | QBFreak | aha, that must be the reference thing I read about :) |
| 02:51.09 | QBFreak | where $bar is a reference to %foo |
| 02:51.13 | tensai | correct |
| 02:51.16 | QBFreak | whee |
| 02:51.30 | QBFreak | thanks! it looks like it restarted with no warnings this time |
| 02:51.44 | goozbach | perl hashes rock |
| 02:51.58 | goozbach | levi: what's not to like? |
| 02:52.12 | QBFreak | at first glace they seem pretty nifty once you make sense of the rules |
| 02:52.27 | levi | goozbach: They're narsty. |
| 02:53.04 | levi | I tried to make a hash of arrays once, or something, and failed miserably. |
| 02:53.17 | levi | I've never seriously attempted to use perl since. |
| 02:53.32 | QBFreak | ahg, another error, Use of uninitialized value in exists at ./mozbot.pl line 763 (#1) |
| 02:53.41 | QBFreak | I think I'm going in circles |
| 02:53.42 | tensai | nesting can get confusing fast |
| 02:54.06 | QBFreak | that would be this one again: if ( exists $commandChar{$chan} ) { $cmdChar = $commandChar{$chan}; } |
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| 02:54.30 | tensai | are %commandChar and $cmdChar defined? |
| 02:54.33 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 02:54.37 | goozbach | what's the value of $chan? |
| 02:54.46 | QBFreak | yeah, one globally and one the line above |
| 02:54.51 | QBFreak | that is what I was just about to check |
| 02:55.00 | goozbach | exists shouldn't care |
| 02:55.06 | goozbach | well gtg boarding door and what not. |
| 02:55.30 | QBFreak | cool, thanks for the help |
| 02:55.36 | QBFreak | have a good flight |
| 02:56.10 | tensai | even if $chan is empty it won't cause an error. it would have to be undefined. |
| 02:56.14 | QBFreak | alas, $chan is undefined |
| 02:56.21 | tensai | well, there you go |
| 02:56.30 | QBFreak | next question is why |
| 02:56.59 | QBFreak | more hash abuse |
| 02:57.11 | tensai | levi: can I ask your opinion on a bike? |
| 02:57.29 | tensai | http://www.fisherbikes.com/bikes/bike_detail.asp?series=trail-classic&bike=Tarpon |
| 02:58.38 | levi | What sort of riding do you want to do? |
| 02:59.35 | tensai | mostly to work, but I figure if I have the bike I would take it camping once in a while |
| 02:59.44 | tensai | no serious off roading, but I want the ability |
| 03:00.11 | tensai | that's the one the local bike store recommended. it rode around the block well. |
| 03:00.32 | levi | It looks fine for light use. The components are low-end, and may have issues getting adjusted properly if they go out of true. |
| 03:01.27 | levi | It's probably a bit on the heavy side, but probably not unreasonably so for that price range. |
| 03:02.32 | levi | If you were going to get into mountain biking, I'd suggest something a step or two up from that one, but it should make a fine commuter and light-duty trail bike. |
| 03:02.38 | elg | tensai: where's the streamers? |
| 03:02.52 | tensai | is it worth the extra money vs. a cheapo bike @ walmart? |
| 03:03.00 | tensai | elg: streaming? |
| 03:03.18 | elg | tensai: get a motorcycle, that'll keep you from getting in shape |
| 03:03.51 | tensai | elg: good idea. no, wait. that's half the point. |
| 03:03.53 | levi | tensai: Yeah, cheapo walmart bikes are really heavy, probably have crappier components, and are put together by minimum-wage employees. |
| 03:04.12 | elg | i thought you had to put your walmart bike together yourself |
| 03:04.34 | levi | I would recommend that even if it does come preassembled. |
| 03:04.39 | tensai | nope, pre-assembled |
| 03:05.45 | levi | Walmart bikes aren't very fixable. If something breaks, you often have to toss the whole thing or buy parts that are worth more than you paid in the first place. |
| 03:05.54 | tensai | levi: so what would come out of true that would need to be adjusted? |
| 03:06.05 | levi | Derailleurs. |
| 03:06.31 | levi | It sucks when you can't get them adjusted properly. |
| 03:07.21 | levi | Also, cheap wheelsets that go out of true frequently are really annoying. |
| 03:07.52 | levi | And cheap brakes are even worse when the wheels are out of true. |
| 03:09.27 | levi | A walmart bike will probably ride fine for a while, but things /always/ go out of true eventually. You might be able to get it adjusted properly, but the parts really aren't very good, and will eventually leave the bike in a state of perpetually poor tune. |
| 03:32.49 | nick125 | that was a fun game of bzflag |
| 03:32.51 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: you missed it |
| 03:33.29 | Kuyaedz | I need to learn how to play that game.. finally got my glx issue fixed so it'd work |
| 03:33.43 | nick125 | Kuyaedz: get on spitfire.atarack.com |
| 03:34.25 | Kuyaedz | bzflag spitfire.atarack.com ? |
| 03:34.58 | nick125 | yup |
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| 03:35.17 | TimRiker | ~bzquery spitfire.atarack.com |
| 03:35.39 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery spitfire.atarack.com |
| 03:35.56 | nick125 | Kuyaedz: join purple team |
| 03:40.02 | Kuyaedz | I gotta turn down the detail or something. super laggy |
| 03:40.19 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 03:49.06 | Kuyaedz | I'm beginning to think 'i' means 'make myself blow up' because the two are pretty closely linked :) |
| 03:49.20 | nick125 | lol |
| 03:55.38 | Kuyaedz | so I don't think I even hit anyone |
| 03:56.57 | nick125 | lol |
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| 04:21.35 | Kuyaedz | how can I append a , to the end of each line in vi? |
| 04:23.28 | xbmodder_lappy | this is how in python: |
| 04:23.58 | xbmodder_lappy | f=file("filename",mode="r+w") |
| 04:24.01 | xbmodder_lappy | x="" |
| 04:24.11 | xbmodder_lappy | for i in f.readline(): |
| 04:25.31 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.35 | xbmodder_lappy | f.seek(0) |
| 04:25.39 | xbmodder_lappy | f.write(x) |
| 04:25.40 | xbmodder_lappy | f.close() |
| 04:25.42 | xbmodder_lappy | import sys |
| 04:25.47 | xbmodder_lappy | sys.exit(0) |
| 04:26.09 | mheath | ew! |
| 04:26.25 | mheath | No wonder python is so slow. That language looks like a nightmare to parse |
| 04:26.41 | xbmodder_lappy | I thought you had me on ignore ;-) |
| 04:27.02 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, do you java? |
| 04:27.26 | mheath | Yes, I code mostly in Java. |
| 04:28.39 | Kuyaedz | I swear I did it in vi before, just don't remember the syntax. Trying to add commas so I can import text to spreadsheet |
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| 04:51.26 | Kuyaedz | looks like "s/\n/,/g" will do it but its just one line. Anyone tell me how to repeat for entire file? |
| 04:53.06 | mheath | Kuyaedz, you need s/\n/,\n/g |
| 04:53.15 | mheath | Dont know how to repeat, though |
| 05:01.05 | QBFreak | stick a % before the s/ |
| 05:01.20 | QBFreak | % makes it do every line, trailing g says every match on the line |
| 05:01.39 | tensai | Kuyaedz: :%s/$/,/ |
| 05:01.58 | QBFreak | yeah, what he said :) |
| 05:02.11 | xbmodder_lappy | QBFreak, does that work with sed too? |
| 05:02.26 | QBFreak | I thought sed did line by line anyway |
| 05:02.28 | QBFreak | I dunno |
| 05:02.42 | tensai | there's only one end of line per line, so the /g is pointless |
| 05:02.47 | xbmodder_lappy | y/ |
| 05:03.06 | tensai | QBFreak: perl -lne |
| 05:03.23 | QBFreak | what am I doing with perl now? |
| 05:03.53 | Kuyaedz | and is there a way to remove all ^M? |
| 05:04.06 | xbmodder_lappy | what is ^M? |
| 05:04.11 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.14 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 05:04.20 | QBFreak | CR |
| 05:04.24 | Kuyaedz | I'm basically starting with a .txt with name, address, address2, phone taking four lines. I want it to become one line, as csv |
| 05:04.32 | QBFreak | windows uses CRLF for line ending |
| 05:04.38 | Kuyaedz | .^M is \n |
| 05:04.49 | QBFreak | there is a dos2unix tool that will change line endings for you |
| 05:04.56 | QBFreak | I thought \n was LF |
| 05:05.28 | QBFreak | isn't \r CR or ^M ? |
| 05:05.31 | Kuyaedz | file was created in win.. I wonder if the ^M followed |
| 05:05.59 | QBFreak | take a look at dos2unix, it should be on most linux systems iirc |
| 05:06.31 | QBFreak | might make a backup first, I don't recall if it takes one file or two (in and out) |
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| 05:45.53 | nick125 | anyone here want to play some monopoly/ |
| 05:48.22 | Supaplex | if I can start with a monopoly |
| 05:48.26 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 05:49.03 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:49.11 | nick125 | fire up gtkatlantic and we'll play :P |
| 05:59.54 | nick125 | Mon May 29 23:59:54 MDT 2006 |
| 06:00.00 | nick125 | boom! |
| 06:00.04 | Supaplex | yup |
| 06:02.37 | maquis | happy memorial day... erm... day after memorial day |
| 06:03.28 | bonez41 | what kept you so busy, maquis? |
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| 06:30.57 | findlay | memorial day? Does that mean I forgot something? |
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| 13:04.24 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 13:04.47 | sjansen | emcnabb: You ever teach in Tysons Corner, VA? |
| 13:04.59 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 13:05.11 | emcnabb | it was a RH033 about a year and a half ago |
| 13:05.30 | emcnabb | it's in Red Hat's international sales office |
| 13:05.59 | sjansen | So you can understand me when I saw I managed to get lost for half an hour in a 3 block radius. |
| 13:06.13 | emcnabb | oh yeah, very confusing |
| 13:06.42 | emcnabb | all of the building look the same, and the RH office is off the road a ways |
| 13:08.29 | sjansen | I'm staying in the Holiday Inn. It's also well hidden. |
| 13:11.41 | goozbach | tyson's corner... |
| 13:11.49 | emcnabb | is that the one right across the street (next to Fudruckers)? |
| 13:11.51 | goozbach | don't think I've ever been there |
| 13:12.29 | emcnabb | the sys admin there commutes from West Virginia every day (to ~D.C.) |
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| 13:48.28 | mheath | Umm...... |
| 13:49.15 | graphyx | well I saw Xmen III yesterday and I liked it. |
| 13:49.17 | graphyx | It was cool. |
| 13:50.06 | mheath | Really? I found the story to be a bit shallow, and I disliked the characterization. |
| 13:50.48 | mheath | Jean/Phoenix, in particular, I found to be really shallow. Reading some comics and watching the cartoons when I was a kid, I was under the impression that she was a subtly very powerful, complex, changing person |
| 13:51.07 | mheath | In the movie, she was kinda....empty. Just stupid, did nothing, and semi-evil. |
| 13:51.33 | graphyx | I never read the comic books. |
| 13:51.39 | graphyx | So that might make the difference. |
| 13:51.56 | graphyx | But I think that you have a point about them not putting enough into her character. |
| 13:52.09 | graphyx | There wasn't enough fight between the two. |
| 13:52.17 | graphyx | Just the one overwhelming the other and killing everyone. |
| 13:52.28 | graphyx | Did you see the little scene at the end of the credits? |
| 13:52.38 | mheath | No?! |
| 13:52.42 | mheath | I hate when they do that |
| 13:52.46 | graphyx | heh.. |
| 13:52.50 | graphyx | It was like 8 seconds long. |
| 13:52.50 | mheath | I don't want a time wasting game when I watch my movies. |
| 13:52.56 | mheath | graphyx: what was it? |
| 13:52.59 | graphyx | shall I sploit it? |
| 13:53.15 | mheath | Please do :) PM if you feel awkward breaking that to the whole channel |
| 13:53.41 | graphyx | I did. |
| 13:54.36 | mheath | Hah! I missed that. |
| 13:54.50 | graphyx | I read about it on Digg, so I stuck around to see it. |
| 13:55.02 | graphyx | along with about 10% of the people. |
| 13:55.16 | mheath | Me and a friend at work were having a discussion over if they were considering a sequel, because of the last Magneto scene |
| 13:55.25 | mheath | This confirms, I think, that they're at least considering it |
| 13:57.44 | graphyx | yeah, they already have plans for another one or two. |
| 13:58.06 | graphyx | lets take this to pm |
| 13:58.52 | mheath | Meh, I'm done. Off to clean out my car. |
| 13:59.04 | graphyx | k |
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| 15:16.20 | harleyjpig | http://www.patentlysilly.com/patent.php?patID=7037243 |
| 15:18.46 | Kuyaedz | ridiculous |
| 15:18.53 | nick125 | hahahahaahahahaha |
| 15:18.58 | nick125 | coreless jump rope |
| 15:19.28 | goozbach | heh |
| 15:20.07 | harleyjpig | I have a new website to add to my aggregator, except I can't find a feed for it yet. |
| 15:20.49 | vontrapp | ~feed harleyjpig |
| 15:20.50 | ibot | offers harleyjpig some toe-jam |
| 15:21.45 | goozbach | ohh toe-jam |
| 15:22.53 | harleyjpig | yummy |
| 15:27.46 | elg | Kuyaedz: not so ridiculous |
| 15:28.25 | elg | my wife does a jumproping aerobics vid. i jumproped for a few weeks in one of those missionary get-in-shape stints |
| 15:28.44 | Jayce^ | vontrapp, don't feed him, he'll never leave you alone again |
| 15:29.06 | elg | the rope is a big hassle though. personally if I'm going to jump I'll do it with a rope because trying not to trip yourself is half the fun |
| 15:29.16 | elg | but then I don't like jumping and running all that much anyway |
| 15:31.12 | Jayce^ | elg, you don't like exercise all that much anyway |
| 15:31.17 | Jayce^ | none of us do |
| 15:31.22 | elg | true that |
| 15:31.28 | elg | but some excercise is worse than others |
| 15:31.46 | Jayce^ | true, true |
| 15:31.47 | elg | when I excercise, I swim. I don't even bother about thinking of other kinds of excercise :) |
| 15:31.50 | ^Migs^ | exercise is stupid |
| 15:31.51 | elg | not unless I lose my arms and legs |
| 15:31.54 | goozbach | I like running |
| 15:32.14 | elg | running and jumping don't agree with my knees |
| 15:32.15 | goozbach | but I'm wierd |
| 15:32.15 | Jayce^ | goozbach, my wife is doing the SD marathon on sunday..... |
| 15:32.15 | ^Migs^ | would you rather die old and sore and starving, or not-so-old, happy, and full |
| 15:32.16 | goozbach | but you all knew that already |
| 15:32.27 | goozbach | sore and happy and full |
| 15:32.32 | goozbach | I will NEVER diet |
| 15:32.36 | goozbach | EVER! |
| 15:33.34 | goozbach | that doesn't mean I'll never exercise |
| 15:33.53 | goozbach | I've been jogging every moringing for a couple weeks now |
| 15:33.54 | Jayce^ | goozbach, that's what paintball is for |
| 15:33.59 | goozbach | Jayce^: that too |
| 15:34.23 | goozbach | paintball is the reason for exercise, not the other way round |
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| 15:38.43 | flyboy^ | jsmith: Morning. |
| 15:38.49 | jsmith | Morning flyboy^ |
| 15:38.56 | jsmith | What's up? |
| 15:39.04 | Kuyaedz | I played paintball last week. Holy crap am I out of shape |
| 15:39.18 | Jayce^ | Kuyaedz, where? |
| 15:39.44 | Kuyaedz | some small field down by Utah Lake. I used to play up at the Timp Range though |
| 15:39.59 | Jayce^ | provo airport? |
| 15:40.06 | goozbach | http://markwolf.is-a-geek.net/misc/images/printerjam3.jpg |
| 15:40.51 | Jayce^ | pick-up game at desertedge field on saturday, also the "Treasure Island" scenario game up at velocity in ogden |
| 15:40.51 | Jayce^ | this saturday |
| 15:41.06 | Kuyaedz | ..haven't played at provo airport yet. I need to get back in shape before I end up in any games with you :) |
| 15:41.24 | Jayce^ | Kuyaedz, nah, pick up games are lightweight stuff |
| 15:41.37 | Jayce^ | got a bunch of noobs out there we are helping get started |
| 15:41.55 | Kuyaedz | actually had a dream I was playing paintball last nite.. odd I just remembered that. |
| 15:42.11 | Jayce^ | meh, not odd.. I do it all the time :-p |
| 15:43.06 | elg | ~meh |
| 15:43.07 | ibot | meh int. /meh/ [The Simpsons] An interjection expressing apathy |
| 15:43.30 | Kuyaedz | I used to play 2-3/week a few years back.. my gear is probably outdated :) |
| 15:43.41 | elg | i should have known. everything popular and stupid that I don't get comes from the simpsons. :) |
| 15:44.43 | elg | goozbach: that is pretty funny but the mouse looks a little too human |
| 15:44.47 | harleyjpig | popular and stoopid isn't bad. |
| 15:44.48 | sjansen | Heh, I would've loved to be there to see the printer repairman's reaction to that. |
| 15:44.50 | harleyjpig | sometimes. |
| 15:45.03 | Kuyaedz | although I'm sure paintball gear doesn't age quite the same way PC gear does :) |
| 15:45.04 | Jayce^ | Kuyaedz, probably not, unless you only care about extra high-end stuff |
| 15:45.42 | Jayce^ | what do you have? |
| 15:45.43 | Kuyaedz | Jayce^: nah, I'd rather not have a super fast auto-loader and all that. Just a waste of paint. |
| 15:46.02 | Kuyaedz | Best guy I ever played with use a pump action & his hopper held maybe 20-30 balls. |
| 15:46.22 | Jayce^ | I still have my pump... played with that until about 2000 |
| 15:46.38 | Jayce^ | didn't even own a semi until 99 |
| 15:47.03 | harleyjpig | wow ... today's WTF is a real WTF. I don't know much java, but even I can tell this 12 line method is just plain wrong. |
| 15:47.08 | Kuyaedz | don't have it right here so I don't remember exactly.. piranha gun, 14" barrel (I think) |
| 15:47.22 | Kuyaedz | I remember spending about the same on the barrel as the gun itself. Made a huge difference. |
| 15:47.46 | Jayce^ | you'd be fine with that equpment |
| 15:49.07 | Kuyaedz | played with my brother-in-law, the track star. He likes to rub in the he's-in-better-shape aspect of our relationship |
| 16:02.21 | Supaplex | round is a shape, isn't it? |
| 16:02.30 | Supaplex | ;) |
| 16:02.30 | Kuyaedz | absolutely |
| 16:04.22 | harleyjpig | Over the past twenty years, the science of ergonomics has given us so many adjustmentable options, we need instruction booklets to sit down. But despite all of this innovation, what has been done FOR THE BALLS? http://www.patentlysilly.com/patent.php?patID=6997516 |
| 16:11.32 | harleyjpig | anyone else using remind? |
| 16:18.43 | Kuyaedz | I hate putting together my resume. Anyone have a good template? |
| 16:20.06 | ^Migs^ | what linux app could I use to convert OGG video to MPEG? |
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| 16:26.49 | elg | ^Migs^: probably mplayer or vlc? |
| 16:29.30 | mheath | Where to go for lunch....hmm. |
| 16:29.36 | mheath | I want something healthy. |
| 16:29.54 | mheath | Well, notnecessarily healthy. But less I-feel-like-I'm-eating-plain-lard than McDonalds etc. |
| 16:31.11 | ^Migs^ | okay, I'll try those |
| 16:31.24 | sjansen | ^Migs^: A real man would use a hex editor. |
| 16:31.40 | Kuyaedz | I haven't eaten at McD since 'Supersize Me' |
| 16:33.09 | sjansen | Kuyaedz: Why would anyone when Carl Jr's exists? |
| 16:33.42 | Kuyaedz | sjansen: Yeah, Carl is pretty good |
| 16:34.03 | ^Migs^ | heh |
| 16:34.08 | ^Migs^ | hmmm |
| 16:34.12 | Kuyaedz | I went from fast-food-daily to once-a-month after getting married. My wife loves to cook :) |
| 16:34.19 | Kuyaedz | ...also gained twenty pounds. Hmm.. |
| 16:34.26 | ^Migs^ | mplayer and vlc actually convert from OGG to MPEG, and can produce an MPEG file? |
| 16:34.49 | ^Migs^ | so what? I gained 40 pounds after getting married, and I do the cooking |
| 16:35.42 | [Utah]tristanbob | mheath: Subway man! Get the 6-inch special of the day |
| 16:36.07 | [Utah]tristanbob | 1. Healthy 2. Cheap 3. Tastes good |
| 16:36.22 | Kuyaedz | subway, ugh |
| 16:36.42 | [Utah]tristanbob | Kuyaedz: Each man to their own :) |
| 16:37.12 | elg | i gained after getting married, but I think it's a matter of eating regularly |
| 16:37.35 | mheath | Maybe Subway.....hmmmmm. |
| 16:37.37 | elg | before i'd only have lunch a couple times a week because i was too lazy to make myself a lunch |
| 16:37.44 | elg | and too poor/cheap to buy one> :) |
| 16:39.14 | sjansen | ~define sardonic |
| 16:39.20 | ibot | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 16:39.38 | sjansen | ~dict sardonic |
| 16:39.45 | sjansen | ~boot ibot |
| 16:39.47 | ibot | /kick Jayce^ |
| 16:39.47 | ^Migs^ | I only eat dinner. I don't eat breakfast or lunch |
| 16:40.07 | elg | how do you think all day/ |
| 16:41.37 | harleyjpig | I'm looking forward to February 13, 16:31:30, 2009 |
| 16:44.30 | harleyjpig | harleypig@sweetums:~$ date -d 'Fri Feb 13 16:31:30 2009' +%s |
| 16:44.30 | harleyjpig | 1234567890 |
| 16:44.52 | sjansen | ~flatten Jayce^ |
| 16:44.53 | ibot | ACTION steamrollers Jayce^, eh |
| 16:44.59 | Jayce^ | ~paint sjansen |
| 16:45.01 | ibot | ACTION rains a tape stream of paintballs on sjansen |
| 16:45.09 | harleyjpig | a tape stream? |
| 16:45.11 | sjansen | ~lutefisk Jayce^ |
| 16:45.18 | Jayce^ | ~dog sjansen |
| 16:45.19 | ibot | ACTION stares at sjansen until sjansen whimpers and pees all over himself. |
| 16:45.36 | Jayce^ | harleyjpig, that's what you call it when you are firing so fast it's just the constant line of paintballs |
| 16:45.37 | harleyjpig | The problem with that sjansen is that we'd be stuck with the reslting flatulence. |
| 16:46.02 | harleyjpig | Jayce^: ah |
| 16:47.14 | harleyjpig | Speaking of which, I saw on FutureWeapons a new light tank the Germans have come up with. One of the features is MIDS (I think that was the acronym--Multiple Instantaneous Direct Something). |
| 16:47.52 | harleyjpig | The on board computers would calculate the necessary trajectories to fire up to 5 rounds so they would land at the same time in the same place. |
| 16:48.05 | ^Migs^ | elg, why did you tell me that mplayer and vlc can convert OGG to MPEG? |
| 16:48.11 | harleyjpig | Shot #1 at elevation 80 deg, shot #2 at elevation 60 deg, etc. |
| 16:48.14 | ^Migs^ | I don't think they can |
| 16:48.20 | harleyjpig | It was *very* impressive to watch on tv. |
| 16:48.41 | elg | ^Migs^: mencoder and vlc both have transcoding capabilities |
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| 16:48.54 | ^Migs^ | k |
| 16:49.01 | elg | it's about as much fun as writing a web browser in assembly, but they do have those capabilities |
| 16:49.06 | sjansen | harleyjpig: No, _you_ would be stuck with thre results. I'm two timezones away. |
| 16:49.06 | harleyjpig | They had a platoon of 8 tanks bombarding a hill side. All 8 fired in a seeming random pattern, but when the rounds hit the hill, it dissapparead all at once. |
| 16:49.11 | Jayce^ | harleyjpig, saw that, we had a system very similar to that, but it got scrapped last year |
| 16:49.13 | harleyjpig | sjansen: :D |
| 16:49.15 | Jayce^ | budget cuts |
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| 16:50.36 | harleyjpig | http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/futureweapons/photo/photo.html |
| 16:50.59 | sjansen | ibot: lutefisk $Jayce is <action> seals $Jayce in a bottle of rotting cod |
| 16:51.01 | ibot | okay, sjansen |
| 16:51.04 | sjansen | ~lutefisk Jayce^ |
| 16:51.05 | ibot | ACTION seals $Jayce in a bottle of rotting cod |
| 16:51.17 | Jayce^ | not quite sjansen |
| 16:51.33 | Jayce^ | besides, you need to add 'soaking in lye' |
| 16:51.54 | sjansen | ~lutefisk Jayce^ |
| 16:51.55 | ibot | ACTION seals Jayce^ in a bottle of rotting cod |
| 16:52.47 | sjansen | Jayce^: Tecnically, you're right. But my version is more colorful. |
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| 17:04.40 | Kuyaedz | that was weird.. |
| 17:11.29 | Supaplex | it's all a dream |
| 17:11.44 | nick125 | lol |
| 17:12.40 | mheath | Woah. Wine's come a long way since I used it lat |
| 17:12.42 | mheath | *last |
| 17:13.31 | mheath | it even brings up a little window.....This application is requesting and ActiveX control, but the Mozilla ActiveX plugin isn't installed. Would you like to download and install it now? |
| 17:13.49 | Kuyaedz | so I put together this resume in a font that looks great.. a font not available in Office. :( |
| 17:14.25 | Supaplex | and you didn't embed your font in the document? |
| 17:14.59 | Kuyaedz | Supaplex: right now its just in OOo. Didn't know I could embed. Tell me more :) |
| 17:15.17 | Supaplex | I take the lazy route. pdf. |
| 17:16.15 | Kuyaedz | that works too |
| 17:16.31 | Supaplex | I use to take word support calls. I guess I'm over the trama now. I can't even answer this one off the top of my head :P |
| 17:17.44 | nick125 | lol |
| 17:18.10 | Kuyaedz | while we're talking about word processing.. anyone know how to mail merge in OOo? |
| 17:18.24 | macnewbold | yeah, you can do it |
| 17:18.27 | macnewbold | it is pretty slick |
| 17:18.37 | macnewbold | the help docs on it in ooo are pretty good |
| 17:20.06 | Kuyaedz | I've got a .txt full of contacts I need to convert to .csv so I can mail merge |
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| 17:24.06 | Supaplex | what formatting are the .txt contacts in? if they're already delimited you can use csv regardless of the extension. (at most, copy it to a .csv extension) |
| 17:24.50 | Kuyaedz | Its basically: |
| 17:24.50 | Kuyaedz | name |
| 17:24.51 | Kuyaedz | address 1 |
| 17:24.51 | Kuyaedz | address 2 |
| 17:25.03 | Kuyaedz | \n |
| 17:25.04 | Kuyaedz | repeat |
| 17:25.55 | Supaplex | are the columns seperated by tabs? |
| 17:26.27 | Kuyaedz | its one column in .txt format. |
| 17:26.48 | Supaplex | so the records are seperated by two line feeds |
| 17:27.11 | Kuyaedz | yeah |
| 17:28.09 | Supaplex | do you know perl? |
| 17:28.21 | Kuyaedz | nope |
| 17:29.08 | Kuyaedz | I was trying with vim last nite to replace replace the current format with name, address1, address2 but didn't quite get it |
| 17:30.37 | Supaplex | humm. well Text::CSV_XS likely has what you want to refactor that into csv with perl. If I find one of my code snippets, or a slow spot, I'll help a little more. |
| 17:30.53 | Kuyaedz | great |
| 17:31.11 | Kuyaedz | I suppose I could manually set it into columns but thats too monotonous |
| 17:31.36 | Kuyaedz | funny that we'd rather spend 2hrs finding the method that'll do it for us, when we could have finished it manually in 1.5hrs :) |
| 17:31.36 | Supaplex | can you reexport it into csv? what made that .txt file? |
| 17:31.59 | Kuyaedz | originally was notepad in XP |
| 17:44.17 | Supaplex | Kuyaedz: katch (dcc) |
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| 17:46.33 | Kuyaedz | Supaplex: Can't locate Text/CSV_XS.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./kuy2csv line 9. |
| 17:46.33 | Kuyaedz | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./kuy2csv line 9. |
| 17:47.26 | Supaplex | you'll have to install Test::CSV_XS. What platform/distro are you on? |
| 17:47.46 | Kuyaedz | ubuntu 6.06 |
| 17:48.46 | Supaplex | libtext-csv-perl |
| 17:50.31 | Kuyaedz | so how do I run this to input the .txt file? (never really used perl) |
| 17:50.54 | Supaplex | perl file.pl < this.txt > that.csv |
| 17:51.04 | Supaplex | or chmod 755 file.pl |
| 17:52.33 | sjansen | Most of my students this week have at least two years of Unix experience. Only one doesn't have hands on experience, he's reasonably smart, and he already took the prerequiste classes. |
| 17:52.47 | sjansen | It is _so_ much easier teaching when the students are prepared. |
| 17:55.09 | sjansen | Kuyaedz: If you deal with text data on a regular basis, you absolutely _must_ learn Perl. You'll thank us eventually. |
| 17:55.21 | Kuyaedz | Supaplex don't think its working. 'perl kuy2csv.pl < list.txt > output.csv' |
| 17:55.22 | goozbach | sjansen: I've got some additions to your list of things poor students should do |
| 17:55.40 | sjansen | goozbach: I'd love to get your input. Email me. |
| 17:55.47 | goozbach | I |
| 17:55.53 | goozbach | I'll blog it after work today |
| 17:56.01 | sjansen | coolio |
| 17:56.04 | goozbach | (post theif) |
| 17:56.39 | Supaplex | Kuyaedz: is there anything in output.csv? |
| 17:56.50 | mheath | Theres a coastguard reserve?! What the heck? (I just saw an ad on TV) |
| 17:57.03 | mheath | In what situation would the coast guard reserve be activated? |
| 17:57.08 | Kuyaedz | garbage output if I use cat and if I try to open as spreadsheet it gives an error. |
| 17:57.18 | mheath | THERES TOO MANY DRUG DEALERS! WE CAN'T HANDLE IT! Call in the reserves! |
| 17:57.47 | Supaplex | garbage as in extended charaters? what's the error in the spreadsheet? |
| 17:58.00 | Kuyaedz | can I send you part of the actual file so you can see what we're working from? |
| 17:58.16 | Supaplex | you might want to use fromdos, or a text editor to convert the dos format to unix line feeds. (afair, perl is indifferent about it) |
| 17:58.22 | Supaplex | sure |
| 18:00.04 | Kuyaedz | where/how should I send it? |
| 18:02.23 | Supaplex | your nat doesn't support dcc out. 192.168.0.8 :) |
| 18:02.45 | Kuyaedz | eek |
| 18:02.55 | Kuyaedz | what port do I need for that? |
| 18:03.01 | sjansen | Kuyaedz: http://paste.lisp.org/display/20630 |
| 18:03.17 | sjansen | There's a simple shell script that might do the reformatting you need. |
| 18:04.09 | sjansen | Instead of DCC'ing the file, just put part of it up at paste.lisp.org |
| 18:06.48 | Kuyaedz | http://christer.pastebin.com/747233 |
| 18:09.11 | vontrapp | mheath: congrat! |
| 18:09.12 | vontrapp | s |
| 18:09.31 | sjansen | Two comments: 1) Using commas isn't a good idea since the data already has them. 2) You probably should have made up some data, or at munged the real data to conceal identities. |
| 18:10.44 | Kuyaedz | Well I trust you guys not to misuse the data & that pastebin will delete in 24hrs |
| 18:11.08 | graphyx | pastebin doesn't delete in 24 hours. |
| 18:11.11 | Supaplex | ah ha. I lapsed to reset one of the arrays. :P |
| 18:11.21 | graphyx | I have stuff up there from 1.5 months ago for some reason. |
| 18:11.27 | Kuyaedz | that pastebin has an option to delete after 24hrs, 1 month, never. |
| 18:12.02 | graphyx | ok. |
| 18:12.05 | graphyx | I probably used the wrong one. |
| 18:14.04 | Kuyaedz | ...still errors when opening in Spreadsheet |
| 18:14.29 | Supaplex | how many names do you have in all? |
| 18:14.51 | sjansen | Kuyaedz: Assuming googlebot, et. al. don't pick it up. |
| 18:15.03 | Kuyaedz | 2100 lines total.. |
| 18:15.36 | Kuyaedz | brb |
| 18:15.51 | sjansen | If there's always three lines wrong, you can just use a Vim macro and run it precede it with a numeric modifier. |
| 18:27.02 | [Utah]tristanbob | Kuyaedz: I think Cobol would be the best language for your task |
| 18:27.28 | mheath | Indeed. Definately Cobol. |
| 18:27.35 | mheath | Or, Whitespace. Either or. |
| 18:28.05 | [Utah]tristanbob | Kuyaedz: is it always a 4 line grouping? |
| 18:28.54 | [Utah]tristanbob | three lines and space |
| 18:33.44 | [Utah]tristanbob | sjansen: I like your simple "reformatter" script |
| 18:34.21 | [Utah]tristanbob | what can Kuyaedz do about the commas in his data? |
| 18:43.40 | vontrapp | how to tar c something | cd somewhere; tar x |
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| 18:43.56 | vontrapp | of course, the pipe goes to cd, but how to get it to go to tar? |
| 18:44.00 | jsmith | lars-ut! |
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| 18:44.13 | lars-ut | jsmith: hola! |
| 18:44.44 | bertbob | (tar -c - .) | (cd /new/dir && tar -x -) |
| 18:45.01 | Supaplex | -C changes directory |
| 18:46.15 | lars-ut | ~lart Intel Desktop Board D101GGC with its ATI chipset |
| 18:46.25 | bertbob | sorry, I forgot the f |
| 18:46.37 | lars-ut | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/browse_thread/thread/8c98e8381e93f032/242ffa83c176de3e?lnk=st&q=D101GGC+slow&rnum=2&hl=en#242ffa83c176de3e |
| 18:46.44 | bertbob | (tar -cf - .) | (cd /new/dir && tar -xpf -) also preserves permissions |
| 18:49.07 | bertbob | you can also do (cd /old/dir && tar -cf - .) | (cd /new/dir && tar -xpf -), and you can replace && with ; but && is safer |
| 18:49.10 | goozbach | cool command of the day: openvt |
| 18:51.43 | ^Migs^ | http://www.miketheheadlesschicken.org/ |
| 18:52.37 | Kuyaedz | back |
| 18:54.56 | vontrapp | bertbob: thanks |
| 18:57.32 | bertbob | sure, it's very handy to know that one |
| 19:02.48 | Kuyaedz | Supaplex: looks like that latest script works--opens in OOo anyway, but there is no data |
| 19:03.08 | elg | oh boy, new /. design |
| 19:03.30 | elg | slashdot 2.0. all of the ugly with more web 2.0ness |
| 19:06.50 | Kuyaedz | is there anything I should do to an XP partition before resizing it? (Knoppix Live) |
| 19:11.49 | goozbach | http://www.geocities.com/boxing4d/Q209354.htm |
| 19:12.00 | goozbach | howto rtfm |
| 19:12.09 | goozbach | language warning |
| 19:16.16 | flyboy^ | Does anyoen in here use irssi? |
| 19:16.32 | [Utah]tristanbob | ^Migs^: Have you been to Mike the Headless Chicken festival? |
| 19:16.41 | nick125 | flyboy^: I do.. |
| 19:16.53 | flyboy^ | nick125: Do you know how to do a listing of people in the room? |
| 19:16.59 | flyboy^ | channel |
| 19:17.11 | flyboy^ | whatever, all this IMification of IRC has me so confused. |
| 19:17.22 | nick125 | /names |
| 19:17.29 | flyboy^ | Ahh, there we go - thanks. |
| 19:17.49 | nick125 | np |
| 19:18.13 | ^Migs^ | nope |
| 19:18.21 | ^Migs^ | never heard of it until now |
| 19:19.44 | mheath | hmm, I'm getting a 'cadet of the year' award for my local USNSCC division... |
| 19:19.59 | tensai | Kuyaedz: qqJJJjddq |
| 19:20.05 | tensai | Kuyaedz: then, 699@q |
| 19:20.19 | tensai | whoops, just two Js |
| 19:20.23 | tensai | qqJJjddq |
| 19:20.30 | jsmith | mheath: Cool... congrats! |
| 19:22.34 | tensai | nah, I take that back. that won't create a csv. |
| 19:23.33 | tensai | qqA,<ESC>JA,<ESC>Jjddq |
| 19:26.06 | macnewbold | sweet, mheath |
| 19:26.13 | Kuyaedz | vim looks like its still keeping the line breaks from the original |
| 19:28.10 | tensai | when you edit it in vim, do you see a ton of ^Ms? |
| 19:28.41 | Kuyaedz | yes |
| 19:29.06 | tensai | k, do this. :%s/<ctrl-v><ctrl-enter>//g |
| 19:29.17 | tensai | it should show up as :%s/^M//g |
| 19:29.29 | tensai | er, not ctrl-enter. just regular enter |
| 19:30.09 | tensai | I guess ctrl-enter works too. the ctrl must be a no-op |
| 19:30.20 | Kuyaedz | there we go |
| 19:31.11 | tensai | ctrl-v escapes the next input character. so instead of interpreting the line break it enters one. |
| 19:32.46 | Kuyaedz | so now I've got my original input minus ^M. |
| 19:33.00 | tensai | now my macro should work |
| 19:33.15 | Kuyaedz | this one? qqA,<ESC>JA,<ESC>Jjddq |
| 19:33.28 | tensai | yes |
| 19:33.50 | Kuyaedz | that looks like it does one entry at a time. Can it automate the whole file? |
| 19:34.04 | tensai | <tensai> Kuyaedz: then, 699@q |
| 19:34.48 | Kuyaedz | nice |
| 19:35.44 | tensai | oh, macros are the awesome |
| 19:36.24 | Kuyaedz | looks like there's one or two four-line entries in there which screwed up the rest |
| 19:37.20 | tensai | whoops. back to the drawing board then |
| 19:42.21 | tensai | :%s/\(.\)$/\1, |
| 19:42.27 | tensai | qqV/^$kJ<ENTER>jddq |
| 19:42.57 | Kuyaedz | I think I manually found them.. |
| 19:43.59 | ^Migs^ | wow, this is an addictive tune: http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swf |
| 19:44.08 | tensai | that macro should handle arbitrary length entries, as long as the line between them is completely empty |
| 19:44.10 | ^Migs^ | not so much addictive as infectious, really |
| 19:50.39 | Kuyaedz | perfect |
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| 19:54.19 | Kuyaedz | ok now I've got the file, each entry on one line, in OOo |
| 19:54.42 | Kuyaedz | ideas on seperating name, address1, address2 into seperate columns? |
| 20:03.50 | lars-ut | Kuyaedz: http://newman.mcmaster.ca/mt/doas/archives/2006/03/openoffice_calc.html |
| 20:04.13 | lars-ut | brac! |
| 20:04.33 | lars-ut | [Diary of a Sysadmin: OpenOffice Calc & "text to columns"] |
| 20:04.33 | lars-ut | http://newman.mcmaster.ca/mt/doas/archives/2006/03/openoffice_calc.html |
| 20:04.51 | lars-ut | ~lart brac for absence |
| 20:05.42 | lars-ut | Slashdot | Shortcomings of OpenOffice and Working Around Them? |
| 20:05.42 | lars-ut | http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/18/0238250&from=rss |
| 20:07.29 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 20:07.42 | lars-ut | Kuyaedz: "Text to Columns is found in Writer for whatever reasons. Go to Table on the menu bar and select Convert. There you will find Text to Tables (instead of Columns) or Tables to Text. I have version 2 of OO0." |
| 20:07.42 | lars-ut | http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=186058&cid=15362303 |
| 20:09.12 | lars-ut | Kuyaedz: you can then paste your table from Writer to Calc |
| 20:39.16 | Kuyaedz | as much as I disklike MS I sure do appreciate the constant stream of work maintaining their crappy machines. |
| 20:39.47 | Kuyaedz | I just got a laptop to 'fix'. No antivirus, no malware protection and IE shortcuts all over the desktop. Wonder what could be wrong lol |
| 20:40.20 | vontrapp | has anyone else run into problems keeping alternative settings in debian? |
| 20:40.34 | vontrapp | i can't get the editor alternative to stay set on vim |
| 20:40.51 | vontrapp | it keeps going back to nano or pico or whichever it was |
| 20:44.17 | spr | Is there a script/utility for managing /etc/alternatives in debian? |
| 20:44.37 | spr | I just manage the symlinks by hand. (which is lame) |
| 20:44.48 | vontrapp | update-alternatives |
| 20:44.57 | *** part/#utah suspence (n=spencer@c-24-10-166-156.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 20:45.01 | vontrapp | e.g. update-alternatives --config editor |
| 20:45.43 | spr | learn something new everyday. |
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| 20:48.13 | mheath | Haha |
| 20:48.54 | mheath | I feel silly putting down a one day trip to Canada where I visited a mall and a donut shop over their on an application for a security clearance :P |
| 20:49.32 | sjansen | [Utah]tristanbob: I'm curious if you were serious or sarcastic about my wonderful script. |
| 20:50.33 | mheath | In the last 7 years, have you consulted with a mental health professional (psychiatrist, psychologist, counselor, etc.) or have you consulted with another health care provider about a mental health related condition? |
| 20:50.47 | sjansen | I poored blood, sweat, tears and hours of my life into it... ok, seconds seconds of my life. And there wasn't so much bleeding or crying, but there was some sweating. The A/C in this room ain't so great. |
| 20:50.56 | mheath | Good thing I was committed for insanity _8_ years ago. Now I can get my top secret security clerance! |
| 20:51.00 | sjansen | s/poored/poured |
| 20:51.28 | ^Migs^ | frankly, I'm more worried about people who HAVEN'T consulted with a mental health professional |
| 20:51.58 | ^Migs^ | at least the consulters are getting help. All the others are just running around unmedicated. |
| 20:52.32 | mheath | The funny thing is, considering how young I am, how long ago 7 years was. |
| 20:52.32 | mheath | I was a 6th grader in Elementary school =P |
| 20:52.42 | sjansen | ~medicate ^Migs^ |
| 20:53.32 | ^Migs^ | you kids... |
| 20:55.10 | mheath | This is kind of interesting |
| 20:55.17 | mheath | it asks me for my financial records |
| 20:55.30 | ^Migs^ | maybe that's a codeword for "bribe" |
| 20:55.36 | mheath | In the last 7 years, have you filed a petition underr any chapter of the bankruptcy code (to include Chapter 13)? |
| 20:56.05 | sjansen | http://uphpu.org/article.php?story=2006053013025815 <-- Would somebody please go and make fun of PHP? Maybe throw food at anyone that gets offended or tries to defend PHP. |
| 20:56.24 | sjansen | I would, you know, but I can't make it on such short notice. |
| 20:56.30 | ^Migs^ | meh, I like PHP |
| 20:57.05 | mheath | I'm really confused about this paragraph. Its small print. |
| 20:57.09 | lars-ut | sjansen: you're too lazy to troll now? |
| 20:57.17 | mheath | This is on the Medical Prescreen of Medical History Report |
| 20:58.01 | sjansen | No, I'm in Virginia. Not enough time to catch a flight to Utah, throw some food, then catch a flight back. |
| 20:58.03 | mheath | The public reporting burden for this collection of information is estimated to average 10 minutes per response, including the time for reviewing instructions, searching existing data sources, gathering and maintaining the data needed and completeing and reviewing the collection of information. <--- What does this mean? |
| 20:58.27 | lars-ut | sjansen: since when has location prevented insults? |
| 20:58.39 | sjansen | Besides, they'd probably be suspicious if they saw me coming. |
| 20:58.43 | lars-ut | :) |
| 20:59.40 | goozbach | sjansen: what's the url for Contex again? |
| 20:59.42 | sjansen | lars-ut: Insults? I'm insulted. They're not insults... they're pointed re-education. |
| 20:59.50 | sjansen | goozbach: contextgarden.net |
| 21:00.50 | mheath | WARNING: The information you have given constitutes an official statement. Federal law provides severe penalties (up to 5 years confinement or a $10,000 fine or both), to anyone making a false statement. If you are selected for enlistement, commission, or entrace into a commissioning program based on a false statement, you can be tried by military court-martial or meet an administrative board for discharge and couuld receive a less than |
| 21:00.50 | mheath | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:00.55 | mheath | Never ahs the question "HAVE YOU EVER HAD OR DO YOU NOW HAVE: (1) Asthma, wheezing, or inhaler use" been so serious |
| 21:01.27 | lars-ut | mheath: skip to the good ones |
| 21:01.58 | lars-ut | ~echelon fodder |
| 21:02.00 | ibot | rumour has it, echelon fodder is Bush, Uranium, Dirty Bomb, Jihad, Allah Akbar, TNT, Rent a van, assassination , NSA, wiretaps, sleeper cell, suicide bomb, vest, Oklahoma City, Waco, revenge, anthrax, virgins, fuse, great celebration, July 4th, detcord, martyr, timer, backpack, subway |
| 21:02.38 | lars-ut | "Sir, we just got a hit on that new candidate" |
| 21:03.28 | mheath | lars-ut, Like "Allergic to wool"? |
| 21:03.34 | lars-ut | lol |
| 21:04.12 | sjansen | lars-ut: Interesting. Last week I fertilizer bomb was in New Jersey. Drove around the Osama bin Laden airport. Have to say, it sure is an ugly dirty bomb area. But at least I Richard Reid had a first class flight back suicide mission. |
| 21:04.27 | lars-ut | lol some more |
| 21:04.39 | lars-ut | link? |
| 21:05.21 | mheath | I'm so glad that that line and me discussing filling out an application for a security clerance are on the same public logs. |
| 21:05.31 | sjansen | Years from now, I'm going to apply for security clearance and it's going to be denied because of the previous statement. |
| 21:05.37 | Jayce^ | q |
| 21:05.39 | lars-ut | hence my earlier quote |
| 21:05.40 | Jayce^ | erg |
| 21:05.51 | sjansen | a |
| 21:06.00 | sjansen | splat |
| 21:06.30 | lars-ut | staffer: "Sir, I recommend that his clearance be revoked immediately." |
| 21:07.15 | lars-ut | Sergeant: "Wait. Let's keep reading - we may have stumbled upon a local cell." |
| 21:07.18 | mheath | How many people do they have joining the marine corp that have ashmat, dislocated joints, epilepsy, sleepwaking, recuring back+neck pain, rheumatic fever, foot pain, doublevision, back survery, wool allergies (?) |
| 21:07.19 | mheath | ? |
| 21:07.20 | [Utah]tristanbob | sjansen: I was serious - simplicitiy is to be commended |
| 21:07.36 | mheath | I'm totally confused why "Allergic to wool" is there. I mean, it should at least have its own section. |
| 21:07.52 | sjansen | ~congratulate sjansen |
| 21:07.54 | ibot | ACTION congratulates sjansen on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 21:07.56 | mheath | These are all like life threatening, horrible, debilating problems. Then: "Allergic to wool" |
| 21:08.18 | lars-ut | mheath: maybe it doubles as a psychological profile test |
| 21:10.19 | jsmith | mheath: I'm sure being allergic to wool is life-threatening in the armed forces... |
| 21:10.44 | jsmith | Wool blankets, wool socks... |
| 21:11.07 | mheath | Wool uniforms. |
| 21:11.20 | lars-ut | mheath: Wool allergies could be serious in the corps. Imagine if you had to parachute into a field full of exploding sheep. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Worms_weapons_and_tools) |
| 21:12.28 | lars-ut | a bit of that wool on bare skin could be like the acid blood in "Aliens" |
| 21:14.31 | lars-ut | "There are dangers to using an exploding sheep. The sheep will turn around if it bumps into an obstacle, and may walk right back towards your worm, or in the very least, away from its intended target. It can also be prone to jumping over the enemy worms, preventing detonation immediately adjacent to the target and thus reducing the damage attainable." |
| 21:15.14 | ScytheBlade1 | pfft @ wikipedia link |
| 21:15.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lars-ut-away, try http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/List_of_weapons_that_don%27t_exist%2C_but_should |
| 21:18.50 | lars-ut-away | ScytheBlade1: that qualifies as the best link I've seen today |
| 21:18.59 | ScytheBlade1 | lars-ut-away, if you had any idea... |
| 21:19.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Scroll to the bottom |
| 21:19.10 | ScytheBlade1 | There's severl more that are equally awesome |
| 21:19.31 | ScytheBlade1 | s/severl/several/ |
| 21:19.58 | lars-ut-away | Chuck-nuns? Man that's funny. |
| 21:20.39 | lars-ut-away | lol at "Armed monkey" |
| 21:20.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Gorillas on PCP |
| 21:20.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Note that there's one mildly NSFW |
| 21:21.03 | ScytheBlade1 | But mostly due to content, not actual photo |
| 21:21.40 | lars-ut-away | Laser Guided Polar Bear |
| 21:22.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Shuriken catapult |
| 21:22.29 | lars-ut-away | Sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their frickin' heads |
| 21:22.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And let's not forget |
| 21:22.39 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.07 | ScytheBlade1 | LOL |
| 21:23.07 | ScytheBlade1 | DDR-camouflage land mine |
| 21:24.25 | lars-ut-away | Whoop-a__ of mass destruction |
| 21:24.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa, make that two NSFW entries |
| 21:25.26 | lars-ut-away | See also |
| 21:25.26 | lars-ut-away | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 21:26.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I like the "CRIMETHINK" header to that page, too |
| 21:26.49 | lars-ut-away | "2004 2nd Iraqi War. George W Bush contracts LAMBCHOP for the stunning defeat of Iraq in the first 2 months of battle. Bush decides to try and save money and in the 3rd month says to LAMBCHOP, "Ok we'll take it from here dudes," thus ensuring that America never wins." |
| 21:26.58 | lars-ut-away | bottom of http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Laos |
| 21:27.43 | ScytheBlade1 | The Uncyclopedia front page is entertaining also |
| 21:28.04 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 21:28.10 | ScytheBlade1 | You'll be back for more! You know it! |
| 21:28.16 | lars-ut-away | I do. |
| 21:28.22 | lars-ut-away | punk. |
| 21:28.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 21:28.30 | lars-ut-away | :) |
| 21:30.30 | Jayce^ | mazel-tov cocktail |
| 21:35.52 | ScytheBlade1 | It's an amazing article, no? |
| 21:41.59 | macnewbold | I believe that's molotov, isn't it? either way, if it blows up, I like it |
| 21:42.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It's from my link up a bit |
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| 21:57.30 | emcnabb | I am now a homeowner |
| 21:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Congrats |
| 21:57.41 | emcnabb | it's a weird feeling |
| 21:58.43 | macnewbold | cool, evan! that's great |
| 22:03.25 | emcnabb | thanks |
| 22:11.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ~roulette |
| 22:11.13 | ibot | ACTION watches scytheblade1 pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 22:11.16 | ScytheBlade1 | .... |
| 22:11.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ~roulette |
| 22:11.27 | ibot | ACTION watches scytheblade1 pull the trigger: Click! |
| 22:11.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, there we go |
| 22:14.01 | macnewbold | ~roulette |
| 22:14.02 | ibot | ACTION watches macnewbold pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 22:14.05 | macnewbold | doh |
| 22:14.07 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 22:14.13 | spengy | ~roulette |
| 22:14.15 | ibot | ACTION watches spengy pull the trigger: Click! |
| 22:14.18 | spengy | woot |
| 22:14.21 | emcnabb | ScytheBlade1: do you live in NC? (someone here does besides me) |
| 22:14.27 | ScytheBlade1 | emcnabb, I do not |
| 22:14.33 | ScytheBlade1 | emcnabb, I'm, gasp |
| 22:14.37 | ScytheBlade1 | emcnabb, a #utah native |
| 22:14.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ~roulette |
| 22:14.40 | ibot | ACTION watches scytheblade1 pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 22:14.59 | emcnabb | I guess I never was a Utah native... :-( |
| 22:15.06 | emcnabb | just lived there for 6 years |
| 22:15.13 | ScytheBlade1 | emcnabb, :/ |
| 22:15.42 | macnewbold | emcnabb: that's about enough to qualify, since it was in Utah Valley... down there time counts 4x for making you a naturalized Utahn |
| 22:15.53 | spengy | haha |
| 22:16.50 | macnewbold | emcnabb: I think Jesse Stay (aka Uncle Jesse I think?) was in NC, and years ago a guy named Joe Tate was hanging out on some of the local lists despite having moved to NC |
| 22:17.52 | emcnabb | haha |
| 22:19.10 | emcnabb | there's some teenaged kid who gets on here sometimes from NC. The reason I ask is because I know he uses Road Runner for Internet access, and I was curious about how he liked it |
| 22:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, I'm on Comcast... so.... |
| 22:26.39 | emcnabb | is it Comcastic? |
| 22:26.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 22:37.50 | Supaplex | somedays you just need a spare hand. http://www.local6.com/news/9290536/detail.html |
| 22:38.46 | spengy | awesome |
| 22:50.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I saw that earlier |
| 22:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Too bad neither of them are fully functional |
| 22:51.01 | spengy | They should give him bionic limbs |
| 22:52.49 | vontrapp | anyone know what gnome-volume-manager does or prefers as far as unmounting removable media? |
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| 23:08.24 | mrpull | is anybody aware of a place I can download vmware player images for recent versions of SUSE? |
| 23:10.19 | macnewbold | If google doesn't know, then neither do I |
| 23:10.44 | mrpull | google is getting worse at answering my questions |
| 23:10.58 | mrpull | I don't know if my questions are getting harder or google is getting worse :) |
| 23:11.45 | mrpull | the first couple of pages of google results didn't turn up anything. Google's AI cant beat a room full of geeks in IRC. |
| 23:14.06 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not hard to make your own |
| 23:18.52 | mrpull | ScytheBlade1: agreed, but it can be a lot faster and a lot less to download by getting those images |
| 23:19.01 | mrpull | avoiding the install is awesome |
| 23:19.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, I can't say that I know where they'd be |
| 23:19.42 | mrpull | i'm grabbing the mini install disk. that'll work. |
| 23:23.22 | xbmodder_lappy | Why do people who want jobs not want to be sales people? |
| 23:27.44 | macnewbold | xbmodder_lappy: what kind of sales? |
| 23:43.00 | xbmodder_lappy | Online sales, work at home. |
| 23:47.05 | macnewbold | selling what? |
| 23:47.29 | macnewbold | paid hourly, commission, or some other way? |
| 23:47.51 | macnewbold | selling online how? answering inquiries or something? |
| 23:48.44 | xbmodder_lappy | um |
| 23:48.46 | xbmodder_lappy | commisions |
| 23:49.18 | xbmodder_lappy | managed VPSes, colo, VoIP, and Virtual PBXes |
| 23:50.21 | macnewbold | aha |
| 23:50.44 | macnewbold | unless they already know about the technology, a sales job like that would be hard |
| 23:50.47 | xbmodder_lappy | other than the fact that you'll be working for a 15 year old, I think 60k a year seems good. |
| 23:51.10 | macnewbold | if they weren't expecting it to be a sales job, that might have been a little disappointing |
| 23:51.27 | macnewbold | as in 15 year old owns the company, or would be their direct supervisor? |
| 23:51.33 | xbmodder_lappy | both |
| 23:51.46 | xbmodder_lappy | 100% commisions |
| 23:51.48 | macnewbold | can a 15 year old legally form a company? |
| 23:51.59 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah, in the state of california |
| 23:52.17 | xbmodder_lappy | you have to get a legal agent for the business (about 200 dollars a year) |
| 23:52.18 | macnewbold | the 100% commissions might be the scary part, unless you've got good numbers to back up the fact that they'll sell enough to make a living |
| 23:52.26 | macnewbold | that's pretty cool |
| 23:53.00 | macnewbold | if it's 100% commissions, how many agents do you have making 60K/year? |
| 23:54.20 | xbmodder_lappy | the 65k/year estimate is based on the figure of thirty sales a month |
| 23:54.47 | xbmodder_lappy | if someone does 3 sales a day, they would make 200k/year |
| 23:54.59 | flyboy^ | xbmodder_lappy: Sales is very risky. Most people who have mortgages tend to stear clear of sales. |
| 23:55.31 | flyboy^ | What if someone does 2 sales a week? Or only 1? |
| 23:55.48 | xbmodder_lappy | um |
| 23:56.00 | xbmodder_lappy | then they get fired. |
| 23:56.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Curious |
| 23:56.11 | flyboy^ | well, there are lots of things that could drive the market down. |
| 23:56.11 | xbmodder_lappy | well technically we are not hiring them anyway |
| 23:56.14 | ScytheBlade1 | How many sales do YOU average a day? |
| 23:56.30 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, currently ~.35 |
| 23:56.38 | flyboy^ | xbmodder_lappy: What about holidays, 9/11 type events, competition... etc. |
| 23:56.39 | ScytheBlade1 | So fire yourself ;) |
| 23:56.50 | flyboy^ | xbmodder_lappy: Also, how solid are the sales leads you have? |
| 23:57.01 | xbmodder_lappy | err, yeah, true. |
| 23:57.06 | xbmodder_lappy | that might be a problem |
| 23:57.21 | flyboy^ | Sales is TOUGH. |
| 23:57.30 | flyboy^ | most CEO's start out being salesment first. |
| 23:57.44 | flyboy^ | The good ones never stop being salesmen. |
| 23:58.13 | ScytheBlade1 | afk |
| 23:59.29 | xbmodder_lappy | see you |
