| 00:02.18 | findlay | Tbe wuvem or Me nbuvg ia not kue ==> The converse of the above is not true. |
| 00:04.04 | vontrapp | -restart |
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| 00:04.35 | vontrapp | -tell elg how's this? |
| 00:04.35 | brac | don't ask me |
| 00:05.28 | findlay | brac: don't ask me |
| 00:05.59 | vontrapp | -tell findlay to ask your mom |
| 00:06.00 | elg | h |
| 00:06.38 | vontrapp | -restart |
| 00:06.41 | vontrapp | maybe now |
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| 00:07.32 | vontrapp | -tell elg http://www.cafepress.com/buy/maternity/-/pv_design_prod/pg_1/p_storeid.53727286/pNo_53727286/id_11947071/opt_/fpt_/c_/hlv_t |
| 00:07.32 | brac | okay |
| 00:08.26 | vontrapp | tell ibot lart findlay |
| 00:08.31 | vontrapp | -tell ibot lart findlay |
| 00:08.32 | brac | sure |
| 00:09.28 | elg | fo |
| 00:09.28 | brac | elg: vontrapp says: http://www.cafepress.com/buy/maternity/-/pv_design_prod/pg_1/p_storeid.53727286/pNo_53727286/id_11947071/opt_/fpt_/c_/hlv_t |
| 00:10.46 | vontrapp | ibot? |
| 00:11.24 | elg | ~lart vontrapp |
| 00:11.24 | brac | ibot: vontrapp says: lart findlay |
| 00:30.16 | beandog | e2fsck is *still* running |
| 00:30.22 | beandog | its been like ... a long time. |
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| 00:39.40 | vontrapp | he's to levi2 now! /me wonders what the boss was like |
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| 01:26.24 | findlay | beandog: did you run `time e2fsck /dev/broken_fs`? |
| 01:26.35 | beandog | yah |
| 01:26.37 | beandog | its still going. |
| 01:26.43 | beandog | Of course, the LVM is almost a terabyte. |
| 01:26.55 | beandog | well, not *that* much |
| 01:26.57 | findlay | well, at least you'll know how long it took at the end. (: |
| 01:27.00 | beandog | but its pretty darn big. |
| 01:27.16 | beandog | Im going back to reiser :) |
| 01:27.21 | beandog | or XFS. |
| 01:27.31 | nick125 | XFS..I've heard bad stuff about that.. |
| 01:27.38 | findlay | ext3 now? |
| 01:27.42 | beandog | Ive never had much luck with it. |
| 01:27.47 | findlay | smells like rain |
| 01:27.53 | beandog | I figure reiser is kind of against the grain of using myth though. |
| 01:28.07 | findlay | ask brandon beattie |
| 01:28.30 | findlay | he's easily the most advanced myth setup in the state of Utah |
| 01:28.40 | beandog | is he on here? |
| 01:28.43 | findlay | got, in there somewhere |
| 01:28.50 | findlay | beandog: don't think so |
| 01:29.19 | findlay | amcnabb or spr could probably give you some real advice too |
| 01:29.50 | beandog | Well Im pretty sure Ive got a bad harddrive. I just need to swap it out. |
| 01:30.04 | beandog | That and ive been running SVN version of mythtv, so I'm just begging for problems. |
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| 01:37.37 | findlay | Sibelius' 6th symphony is positively wonderful. It's like listening to an alien landscape made audible |
| 01:48.37 | nick125 | stupid bunch of morons! |
| 01:49.11 | nick125 | they do not know how to bill :/ |
| 01:51.16 | nick125 | $174 for 3 cable boxes ($9 or $10 there), and $100 for the digital package...grrrrrr |
| 02:04.06 | vontrapp | ugh, i hate clueless designers |
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| 02:48.01 | tristanbob | findlay: What type of classical is sibelius? |
| 02:52.35 | tristanbob | findlay: sounds like he is pretty contemporary - can you recommend a CD? |
| 02:57.33 | bertbob | he died in the late 50's so yes, that's pretty comtemporary |
| 03:07.41 | tristanbob | bertbob: yes - but his style could be anything.... right? |
| 03:11.45 | tristanbob | holy crap!!! - My LoopList page is ranked 72! |
| 03:11.56 | tristanbob | with 32,406 hits |
| 03:12.20 | tristanbob | I am worried that they will tell me to take it off - it is not 100% ubuntu-related ;) |
| 03:12.36 | bertbob | I suppose so, but he's a Fin so he's gotta be modren |
| 03:12.38 | bertbob | LOL |
| 03:12.43 | tristanbob | here are some interesting stats - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PageHits |
| 03:22.36 | nick125 | brb |
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| 03:30.35 | findlay | tristanbob: (1865-1957) |
| 03:31.08 | findlay | I like Karajan's Deutsche Grammophon recording of some of the symphonies |
| 03:31.39 | findlay | and for Karajan for Finlandia. Beyond that I don't know |
| 03:34.14 | findlay | I imagine Bernard Haitink would be good, maybe Neeme Yarvi or George Szell or Sir Colin Davis |
| 03:35.52 | findlay | sweet, Haitink is taking over the Chicago Symphony this year |
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| 03:49.48 | mrpull | heh... this volume has 93% file fragmentation |
| 03:51.17 | mrpull | i've never seen so much red |
| 03:52.43 | nick125 | lol |
| 03:52.59 | nick125 | must..find...something..to..do |
| 03:56.22 | mrpull | I still get a kick out of seeing task manager in this quadproc hyperthreaded box |
| 03:58.06 | nick125 | lol |
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| 04:18.06 | maquis | da vinci code movie was quite well done imho |
| 04:18.38 | maquis | it appears that they dropped a few things from the book in order to be pg13, which is good.. |
| 04:18.52 | maquis | overall, they did an impressive job of pulling that story together in a movie |
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| 04:23.36 | mheath | can someone /lastlog mheath for me? |
| 04:23.46 | mheath | Forgot to increase the buffer in XChat after I installed it |
| 04:24.03 | nick125 | I would but my buffer isn't too large yet :/ |
| 04:26.13 | mheath | ibot: logs |
| 04:26.14 | ibot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 04:28.16 | mheath | hmm, apparently the logs are updated nightly |
| 04:32.15 | mheath | levi_: will you /lastlog mheath for me, see who said my name? |
| 04:33.44 | levi | mheath: vontrapp asked you if you found any decent automation tools for wireless connections. |
| 04:35.36 | mheath | Yeah, Gnome's NetworkManager is working very nicely. |
| 04:36.28 | mheath | It did manage to lock up my card in a way that the driver didn't know how to fix (I had to disable/enable it in the BIOS to get it cleared), but I think that was a driver fault, not NetworkManager's. |
| 04:46.27 | mheath | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 04:46.28 | mheath | /dev/hda1 54G 2.8G 49G 6% / |
| 04:46.28 | mheath | varrun 188M 92K 188M 1% /var/run |
| 04:46.28 | mheath | varlock 188M 4.0K 188M 1% /var/lock |
| 04:46.28 | mheath | udev 188M 108K 188M 1% /dev |
| 04:46.28 | mheath | devshm 188M 16K 188M 1% /dev/shm |
| 04:46.30 | mheath | lrm 188M 19M 170M 10% /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile |
| 04:46.32 | mheath | Mmm :) |
| 04:47.05 | mheath | Wait. Size 54G, only 2.8G is uesd, but theres only 49G remaining? |
| 04:47.59 | nick125 | what FS? |
| 04:49.05 | mheath | nick125, df is filesystem transparent |
| 04:49.13 | nick125 | *shrugs* |
| 04:49.27 | mheath | that is, it reports the amount of space available in the filesystem. Not the physical hard disk. |
| 04:50.55 | nick125 | weird |
| 04:50.59 | Supaplex | ext[23] reserve space for the superuser, which is not reportted as free. |
| 04:51.08 | Supaplex | I'd imagine other fs could do the same |
| 04:51.18 | nick125 | that's waht I was thinking.. |
| 04:52.47 | levi_ | findlay: http://www.osbornmusic.com/jokes.html |
| 04:52.53 | brac | [Musician Jokes] |
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| 05:31.54 | levi_ | Yay, she's finally asleep. |
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| 05:47.38 | mheath | Wow, I'm not used to having such a fast computer |
| 05:47.52 | mheath | compiling wine....I didn't even think to look, I was certain it was still compiling |
| 06:19.02 | findlay | I try to keep my inbox empty, but these people keep sending me mail from mailing lists I'm on. I don't know what to do about it |
| 06:33.27 | bertbob | Franz Ferdinand was just on Austin City Limits talking about their musical influences: |
| 06:33.36 | bertbob | The Beatles and the Dead Kennedys |
| 06:33.44 | bertbob | which makes a certain kind of sense |
| 06:41.20 | levi_ | bertbob: Yeah, that sounds about right. :) |
| 06:57.31 | findlay | do you realize how much viewing time I have right here in my apartment this very moment? |
| 06:58.04 | findlay | The complete "Lord of the Rings" trilogy, ultra extended. If only it came with a water slide |
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| 07:41.26 | Supaplex | g'nite |
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| 17:32.29 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 17:32.30 | xbmodder_lappy | sup |
| 17:33.17 | Kuyaedz | hey |
| 17:37.10 | xbmodder_lappy | whats up? |
| 17:37.45 | Kuyaedz | planning my world domination |
| 17:37.54 | xbmodder_lappy | I get 253 MS to first hop |
| 17:37.56 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 17:38.10 | xbmodder_lappy | can you fix that after you dominate the world? |
| 17:38.21 | Kuyaedz | I'll have my people call you |
| 17:38.31 | xbmodder_lappy | very well :-D |
| 17:39.17 | Kuyaedz | I'm pretty pissed at Xmission today. |
| 17:40.40 | xbmodder_lappy | why? |
| 17:40.43 | xbmodder_lappy | I love my ISP |
| 17:40.52 | xbmodder_lappy | they usually get me 13MS to first hop |
| 17:40.54 | Kuyaedz | I did, until they ended up lying to me. |
| 17:41.17 | xbmodder_lappy | what did you do? |
| 17:41.59 | Kuyaedz | when I signed up on Utopia the sales told me that midnight - 7am, weekends & in-network traffic was un-meetered. So, I limit my .torrents & heavy traffic to those times. |
| 17:42.28 | Kuyaedz | Now they tell me that starting June 1 they will start charging for overage & I am limited to 100G, period. No un-meetered traffic. |
| 17:44.27 | xbmodder_lappy | would anyone mind transcoding this trailer into theora, or AVI: http://www.brickmovie.net/ |
| 17:44.30 | brac | [BRICK] |
| 17:44.36 | xbmodder_lappy | ... |
| 17:44.54 | xbmodder_lappy | That really sucks ass |
| 17:45.05 | Kuyaedz | in an immature response I've now opened my torrents up to unlimited and I'll run 'em 24/7 until midnight May 31. |
| 17:46.06 | xbmodder_lappy | Heh. |
| 17:46.46 | Kuyaedz | I'm not so much angry that I can't use unlimited bandwidth, its the principle that sales told me one thing & the company told me another after I'm signed up. |
| 18:03.04 | ScytheBlade1 | What happens if you go over? |
| 18:03.28 | Kuyaedz | $1/G |
| 18:04.11 | Kuyaedz | 4 Week Cycle to Date : down 27.49 GB : up 185.92 GB : total 213.41 GB |
| 18:05.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Is the 100G up+down, or just down? |
| 18:05.05 | Kuyaedz | combined |
| 18:05.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Ouch |
| 18:05.52 | Kuyaedz | I'm easily below that on my down & the bulk of the up is my torrents, which I had limited to the times they told me were un-meetered. |
| 18:06.13 | ScytheBlade1 | right |
| 18:06.47 | Kuyaedz | so now I need to restructure my up throughput.. tempted to tell 'em to go fsck themselves & go back to comcast |
| 18:08.27 | ScytheBlade1 | The upload though.. |
| 18:08.35 | ScytheBlade1 | utopia is symmetric, right? |
| 18:09.24 | Kuyaedz | how do you mean? |
| 18:09.49 | ScytheBlade1 | 15mbps up, 15mbps down |
| 18:09.52 | Kuyaedz | yes |
| 18:09.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Compared to comcast, 6mbps down, 384kbps up |
| 18:10.08 | Kuyaedz | yeah, I'd definitely be losing out. I'm just pissed on principle. |
| 18:10.31 | Kuyaedz | comcast is slower but un-meetered. I could easier share more overall, just at a slower speed. |
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| 18:11.40 | ScytheBlade1 | If comcast was metered, yeah, I'd shoot myself |
| 18:12.16 | Kuyaedz | so now I'm limited to ~3.5G/day up/down. |
| 18:15.38 | mheath | WTF happens then? Your connection just...turns ofF? |
| 18:16.42 | ScytheBlade1 | No, they just charge you more |
| 18:17.58 | mheath | Utopia sounds horrible |
| 18:18.04 | mheath | Censorship, limitations.... |
| 18:18.14 | mheath | Welcome to the internet done right, Utah style! |
| 18:19.51 | Kuyaedz-AFK | I hadn't noticed any censorship but this bandwidth limit (which was lied about, let me say again) is crap |
| 18:20.11 | Kuyaedz-AFK | How can I have a 15/15M connection & have the same overall limitations of a DSL customer?! |
| 18:20.41 | ScytheBlade1 | mheath, censorship? |
| 18:21.55 | mheath | Not to imply that it is right to look at pornographic material, I'm just bringing up the fact that there is censorship happening - wasn't there some controversy over Utopia plans to censor pornographic materials and other things? |
| 18:24.42 | ozwald | what? pron is what the internet is for.. |
| 18:25.07 | ozwald | hrmm.. are they really introducing bandwidth limitations? |
| 18:25.33 | ozwald | I recently relocated from tampa,fl we have verizon fios 15/2 there are no caps on bandwidth usage |
| 18:25.50 | ScytheBlade1 | mheath, I doubt it |
| 18:27.10 | ozwald | do they have capped accounts and uncapped accounts? |
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| 18:47.53 | mheath | Sigh. |
| 18:58.36 | mheath | This is starting to get annoying. Hmm. |
| 19:46.32 | tensai | Kuyaedz-AFK: sorry, no pity for you here. you're getting a great deal on that amount of bandwidth and xmission is fairly laying out the ground rules for you. |
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| 22:29.40 | mrpull | Kuyaedz: did you get an official announcement on the xmission policy change? |
| 22:29.49 | mrpull | or was it just targeting you |
| 22:29.50 | mrpull | ? |
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| 22:38.14 | Kuyaedz | mrpull: just an email notice that meetering would begin on June 1 and I should check my usage. |
| 22:38.39 | Kuyaedz | I then contacted them about what was my understanding & they told me "if someone in sales told you that we apologize, but that is not the case" |
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| 22:48.17 | findlay | I remember Pete Ashdown talking about how Questar could run fiber through their gas pipes and make a lot of money from it consiering the extent of their network |
| 23:07.15 | Kuyaedz | I think I finally got bzflag to work.. |
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