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| 00:23.24 | vontrapp | rails does that weird thing with database object inheritance, no? |
| 00:23.29 | vontrapp | how does that work exactly? |
| 00:29.29 | emcnabb | "You put the lime in the coconut, you drank them both up" |
| 00:47.03 | maquis | -lart emcnabb |
| 00:47.17 | maquis | TimRiker: ping? |
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| 01:33.47 | graphyx | hey, anyone able to give me a hand with openldap? |
| 01:35.40 | graphyx | Hey, this hand doesn't have openldap with it!!! |
| 01:35.53 | QBFreak | sorry, all sales are final |
| 01:36.08 | graphyx | what if I am an indiana getter? |
| 01:36.17 | QBFreak | but while I have your attention, perhaps you would be interested in this nice foot? |
| 01:36.42 | graphyx | k anyone else? |
| 01:37.53 | graphyx | hey, while you're at it, get me a looney as well. |
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| 01:39.55 | graphyx | herlo you done anything with openldap? |
| 01:40.02 | herlo | a little, why? |
| 01:40.06 | graphyx | I want to hack it. |
| 01:40.10 | graphyx | for work of course |
| 01:40.11 | herlo | ldapadd |
| 01:40.14 | herlo | ldapsearch |
| 01:40.25 | herlo | rtfm |
| 01:40.30 | graphyx | Reading it. |
| 01:40.31 | herlo | does that help? |
| 01:40.43 | graphyx | I was hoping for a little more of a head start. |
| 01:40.44 | herlo | do you wanna do TLS encryption? |
| 01:40.48 | graphyx | how about this. |
| 01:40.52 | herlo | what do you wanna do with it? |
| 01:41.08 | graphyx | Does every installation of openldap automatically run slurpd? |
| 01:41.13 | graphyx | Like I said, I want to hack it. |
| 01:41.16 | graphyx | working on a pen test. |
| 01:41.24 | herlo | no, slurpd is a replication engine I believe |
| 01:41.37 | herlo | slapd is the binary usually |
| 01:41.38 | graphyx | and found a server with an old version of ldap that has a remote exploit in it. |
| 01:41.47 | graphyx | http://www.openldap.org/devel/cvsweb.cgi/servers/slurpd/st.c.diff?r1=1.21&r2=1.22&hideattic=1&sortbydate=0&f=h |
| 01:42.09 | graphyx | buffer overflow |
| 01:42.24 | herlo | yeah, see that |
| 01:42.43 | graphyx | but if they aren't running the slurpd then It's for naught. |
| 01:42.44 | herlo | so you'd need to connect to it and do administration tasks right? |
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| 01:43.02 | herlo | yeah, probably not |
| 01:43.27 | herlo | you probably know better than I what port it runs on |
| 01:43.38 | herlo | I know ldap runs on 389.... |
| 01:43.42 | herlo | but not sure about slurpd |
| 01:44.13 | herlo | does that help any? |
| 01:47.23 | herlo | graphyx: don't know the answer |
| 01:47.27 | graphyx | k |
| 01:47.34 | herlo | did you get my responses in the pm? |
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| 02:56.12 | hans | -lart vontrapp |
| 02:56.31 | hans | so why was yer xmen midnight showing canceled? |
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| 03:16.55 | findlay | man, Debussy r0x0rz |
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| 03:43.23 | levi_ | Good evening. |
| 03:43.42 | Supaplex | they are usually better then mornings. |
| 03:44.38 | nick125 | I need something cool to work on :p |
| 03:44.44 | findlay | hi |
| 03:45.04 | levi_ | I had an excellent bike ride this evening. |
| 03:45.28 | levi_ | Rode up AF canyon to the top of the Alpine Loop. |
| 03:45.43 | findlay | and then all the way back to Sandy? |
| 03:46.12 | levi_ | No, I started right outside the toll gate in AF and returned to the same spot. |
| 03:48.00 | levi_ | It's got something like 3000 ft. of climbing in a little over 11 miles. |
| 03:51.16 | levi_ | Heh, the link to the last section of my online textbook is a 404. |
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| 04:29.26 | vontrapp_ | i want something that will auto mount a usb device, preferably with the devices volume label as the mount point in /media or something |
| 04:29.29 | vontrapp_ | is this at all possible? |
| 04:31.31 | vontrapp_ | perhaps a mixture of udev and autofs |
| 04:32.05 | Kuyaedz | you mean like plugin your usb drive & it just mounts & appears? |
| 04:32.18 | vontrapp_ | exactly |
| 04:32.31 | nick125 | anyone here use wxpython? |
| 04:33.09 | nick125 | I'm trying to align a menu object in a menubar to the right side, instead of the left |
| 04:33.48 | Kuyaedz | vontrapp_: my machine does that.. always has. |
| 04:33.56 | Kuyaedz | vontrapp_: what're you using? |
| 04:33.59 | vontrapp_ | debian |
| 04:34.10 | Kuyaedz | gnome? |
| 04:34.28 | vontrapp_ | unfortunately, the computer is too resource limeted for gnome |
| 04:34.53 | Kuyaedz | Hmm.. I ran into that before when I was using Xfce. I noticed gnome would automount whereas Xfce would not |
| 04:35.54 | Kuyaedz | I remember it came down to gnome-volume-manager.. didn't ever quite figure out how to get it w/o using that package |
| 04:39.53 | Kuyaedz | who was it here that put together two-way mysql-replication? |
| 05:12.04 | vontrapp_ | how does one get the volume label of a partition? |
| 05:19.44 | nick125 | fdisk might tell you? *shrugs* |
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| 05:57.02 | maquis | if anybody can explain to me why vista requires 15 GB, i'd really like to know |
| 05:57.12 | maquis | i've been trying to figure out what they're doing in all that space |
| 05:57.19 | maquis | and i can't come up with anything even close... |
| 05:57.49 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:57.52 | nick125 | me neither |
| 05:58.15 | maquis | i checked, and neither of my systems even have 15 GB used currently |
| 05:59.21 | nick125 | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 05:59.21 | nick125 | /dev/sdb3 183G 18G 156G 11% / |
| 05:59.42 | maquis | nick125: nice |
| 06:00.17 | nick125 | I've got tons of stuff installed here too |
| 06:00.22 | nick125 | much more then vista would include :p |
| 06:00.23 | maquis | yeah |
| 06:01.38 | maquis | my desktop is running a webserver, mail server, svn server, ssh, has X, bzflag, firefox, abiword, etc... it might even have openoffice due to some annoyance with abiword's stupidity |
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| 08:22.41 | findlay | maquis: if you had a literal army of developers/testers/designers and the accompanying bureaucracy and overhead of management, marketing, over crazed corporatisism, ultra-proctive vigilante-ism, and astroturfing propaganda, what kind of gross dimensions would you think you would require? |
| 08:23.48 | mheath | Wish I could get wireless working on this. Hmm. |
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| 12:54.43 | hans | -lart vontrapp |
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| 13:23.52 | sjansen | ~botsnack |
| 13:23.52 | ibot | sjansen: thanks |
| 13:38.37 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 13:38.44 | sjansen | ~botsnack |
| 13:38.44 | ibot | :), sjansen |
| 13:46.16 | ^Migs^ | yay, today is early day |
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| 14:02.15 | Jayce^ | wow. looks like penny arcade has been switching to rails from their php.. |
| 14:02.21 | Jayce^ | and it aint working too well.. |
| 14:08.22 | ^Migs^ | wow, application errors |
| 14:08.43 | ^Migs^ | did they not test it first or something? |
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| 14:17.05 | elg | -lart actiontec |
| 14:18.31 | elg | tensai: my worthless actiontec is just giving me a red light. we just had apower outage this morning |
| 14:18.52 | elg | i'm so sick of this thing. anyone got a recommendation for a replacement? |
| 14:19.22 | sjansen | Jayce^: What are you seeing? |
| 14:19.39 | sjansen | elg: Tin cans and string. |
| 14:20.14 | redbearded_idiot | hrm. penny arcade WAS running php before, weren't they? |
| 14:20.53 | redbearded_idiot | i've been seeing the rails errors too, in the archive area |
| 14:21.08 | ^Migs^ | unplug it then replug it |
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| 14:24.01 | elg | did that |
| 14:24.13 | elg | a couple of times |
| 14:25.09 | ^Migs^ | yeah, it never lasts long |
| 14:25.19 | ^Migs^ | I don't quite understand why it keeps cutting out anyway |
| 14:25.30 | ^Migs^ | at least mine does |
| 14:25.36 | ^Migs^ | the Internet light just goes off |
| 14:27.29 | elg | no, this is solid red power, no other lights |
| 14:27.34 | elg | forever |
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| 15:04.40 | Jayce^ | so, anybody watched x3 yet? |
| 15:08.10 | tristanbob_ | If I want to see if something in /etc/cron.weekly/ is not running, is there a log file to look at? |
| 15:19.16 | sjansen | There is a cron log, yes. On my system it is /var/log/cron. It is not generally very useful. |
| 15:20.34 | sjansen | The best way to tell if a cron job ran is by having it produce output and then checking for that output. |
| 15:21.14 | sjansen | You can redirect the output to a log file, which I suggest. Otherwise, if you just send it to stdout, the output will be mailed to the user account that ran the job. |
| 15:21.31 | sjansen | In the case of cron.weekly, that would be the root user. |
| 15:21.52 | mrpull- | elg: the cisco 678 is a natural replacement |
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| 15:23.00 | sjansen | Postfix refuses to accept email for the root user. If you are using postfix, and you have not configured it to redirect root's email to somebody else, you will lose the output of the cron job. |
| 15:26.29 | tristanbob_ | sjansen: thanks - I was looking for var/log/cron or even var/log/anacron but ubuntu dapper doesn't have it (right?) |
| 15:26.53 | tristanbob_ | I can run this file manually - but to test the cron I have to wait a week! |
| 15:28.15 | sjansen | So put it in cron.hourly instead and wait an hour. |
| 15:29.15 | sjansen | It should be a (mostly) valid test if you just mv /etc/cron.hourly/foo /etc/cron.weekly/ |
| 15:30.01 | sjansen | If the cron job does something silly like depend on being in the /etc/cron.weekly directory, then you deserve to wait a week as your punishment. |
| 15:31.05 | maquis | redbearded_idiot: so, what do you do with these failed fudges? |
| 15:31.40 | redbearded_idiot | maquis: i threw out the first one. not sure yet what to do with the second one. |
| 15:31.48 | maquis | redbearded_idiot: sadness! |
| 15:33.00 | redbearded_idiot | it is sad. i hate throwing out food |
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| 15:39.01 | redbearded_idiot | maquis: you know, if you happened to acquire a hippo fudge recipe, i would ensure that the directions were followed as closely as possibly, so as to avoid throwing anything out |
| 15:39.43 | maquis | redbearded_idiot: i think i might be able to convince someone to pass that along to me... i'll definitely see what i can do on it, at least :) |
| 15:40.00 | harleypig | I thought the vegans were bad: http://freegan.info |
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| 15:40.46 | Jayce^ | eeeeewwww |
| 15:42.25 | Jayce^ | harleypig, great, now redbearded_idiot is going to want to visit one of their cooking classes :) |
| 15:42.55 | redbearded_idiot | Jayce^: that's silly. i'm seeing a complete absense of class there. |
| 15:43.42 | levi_ | Where? |
| 15:44.01 | redbearded_idiot | http://freegan.info |
| 15:44.48 | Jayce^ | homelessness, now it's a lifestyle choice.... :-p |
| 15:46.40 | sjansen | Oh... my... |
| 15:47.20 | sjansen | That _has_ to be a hoax. |
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| 15:47.44 | levi_ | Woo, nutjobs! |
| 15:47.44 | Jayce^ | sjansen, I've known quite a few people that believed in that lifestyle, just hadn't known that name |
| 15:47.46 | sjansen | You don't just find domain names in garbage cans. |
| 15:48.05 | harleypig | how about /dev/null? |
| 15:48.40 | mrpull- | Freegans believe that housing is a RIGHT, not a privilege |
| 15:48.42 | mrpull- | Niiice |
| 15:48.43 | levi_ | Internship and Volunteer Opportunities?! |
| 15:49.54 | levi_ | Cool, there's a SLC dumpster directory. |
| 15:50.59 | sjansen | levi_: If you find anything good, save some for me. |
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| 15:57.05 | levi_ | sjansen: Like I'm going to go dumpster diving. |
| 16:00.33 | elg | tensai: so the new actiontec model has a power switch |
| 16:00.33 | redbearded_idiot | only annual? |
| 16:00.54 | Jayce^ | that's what the lug swap meet is for, right? |
| 16:02.21 | ^Migs^ | http://freegan.info/?page=Dumpsterlaw |
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| 16:07.54 | elg | redbearded_idiot: bane |
| 16:07.57 | elg | ~dict bane |
| 16:08.40 | redbearded_idiot | elg: did i misspell it again? |
| 16:08.48 | elg | yup |
| 16:09.13 | redbearded_idiot | i AM an idiot. |
| 16:09.26 | redbearded_idiot | you've corrected me on that before, even |
| 16:09.52 | elg | no, I think I kept my trap shut last time. but I did notice it |
| 16:10.00 | elg | someone else must have corrected you |
| 16:10.45 | redbearded_idiot | probably jayce |
| 16:11.09 | redbearded_idiot | okay, corrected |
| 16:11.50 | levi_ | So, I rode my bike up AF canyon yesterday to the top of the Alpine loop. |
| 16:12.05 | redbearded_idiot | levi_: how did that go? |
| 16:12.50 | levi_ | Pretty well. I had to take it slow, because I'm not really in great climbing shape, but I made it up and back down without dying, and the scenery was absolutely beautiful. |
| 16:13.20 | levi_ | (I'd call it breathtaking, but my breath had already been pretty much taken by all the uphill cycling!) |
| 16:13.45 | Jayce^ | I bet, how many miles is that ride? |
| 16:14.14 | levi_ | About 11 miles, and 3000ft of climbing. |
| 16:14.22 | elg | levi_: you're a nut |
| 16:14.24 | elg | a fit nut |
| 16:14.32 | levi_ | I went really slow. :) |
| 16:14.41 | Jayce^ | levi_, should ride with mecworks sometime |
| 16:14.46 | Uncle_Jesse | levi_: how many miles is that of climbing? (/me can't count) |
| 16:14.48 | levi_ | Took about an hour and a half of pedalling time to get up. |
| 16:14.58 | levi_ | Uncle_Jesse: All 11 miles. |
| 16:15.03 | Uncle_Jesse | man - that sucks |
| 16:15.05 | Uncle_Jesse | you're crazy |
| 16:15.07 | Uncle_Jesse | :-) |
| 16:15.13 | levi_ | I didn't include the distance back down. But it was a blast. :) |
| 16:15.22 | Uncle_Jesse | I did 3 miles down in Moab, 15 more downhill, and the 3 miles about killed me |
| 16:15.45 | levi_ | You just have to pace yourself. |
| 16:15.45 | Uncle_Jesse | that was off-road though |
| 16:16.02 | levi_ | Yeah, off-road uphills are quite a bit tougher. |
| 16:16.37 | RyanE | levi_: road or mtn. bike? |
| 16:16.42 | levi_ | Road bike. |
| 16:17.00 | Uncle_Jesse | if you're into mtn biking you should try Porcupine rim in Moab |
| 16:17.03 | RyanE | there are a bunch of people here at work who bring their bikes in, and ride at lunch. |
| 16:17.12 | RyanE | road bikes, that is. |
| 16:17.17 | Uncle_Jesse | RyanE: where do you work? |
| 16:17.22 | RyanE | Control4 |
| 16:17.23 | levi_ | We do that too, sometimes. |
| 16:17.43 | RyanE | they put up hangers on one wall, because too many bikes were in the cube hallways |
| 16:17.44 | levi_ | Ahh, Tracy Kirk just moved there. I worked with him here. |
| 16:18.05 | levi_ | We have a big room that they let us store our bikes in. |
| 16:18.19 | Uncle_Jesse | our guys all go climbing after work |
| 16:18.22 | Uncle_Jesse | some bring in bikes |
| 16:18.32 | Jayce^ | we just bring our guns in.... |
| 16:18.34 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 16:18.43 | levi_ | Heh. |
| 16:18.50 | levi_ | I'll take the cycling or climbing, thanks. |
| 16:18.56 | levi_ | I used to do indoor climbing. |
| 16:19.14 | elg | climbing is fun |
| 16:19.29 | levi_ | Partly because I thought it'd be cool to do, and partly to spend time with a girl I liked. |
| 16:19.33 | Jayce^ | climbing was fun when I had the upper-body strength to pull myself up... |
| 16:19.45 | levi_ | Then she had to go and get married to some loser. |
| 16:20.09 | Jayce^ | levi_, so your wife likes climbing then, eh? :-p |
| 16:20.15 | levi_ | Jayce^: No. :P |
| 16:20.40 | Uncle_Jesse | Now if I could only afford the discounts we get on gear here :-) |
| 16:20.50 | elg | tensai: I feel bad you're apparently missing all of my actiontec saga |
| 16:21.20 | levi_ | I've got shoes and a crappy harness, but no rope or anything like that. |
| 16:21.24 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.39 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.41 | Uncle_Jesse | levi_: you should come work for us and get gear at cost |
| 16:22.23 | levi_ | Uncle_Jesse: My wife doesn't like the idea of me climbing rocks. And I'm okay with cycling instead, though my upper body will remain puny. :) |
| 16:22.48 | Uncle_Jesse | levi_: probably good for you anyway |
| 16:23.50 | levi_ | She's not really crazy about me cycling either, but it's a lot easier for her to deal with than the thought of rock climbing, despite my assurances that climbing isn't terribly dangerous when done right. |
| 16:24.17 | Uncle_Jesse | I still need a bike - I sold my old one in the move over here |
| 16:24.33 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm trying to save up - we get 10% off at a local dealer here |
| 16:24.52 | levi_ | Nice. |
| 16:25.43 | tensai | elg: yeah, I feel really bad. which light is solid red? |
| 16:25.48 | elg | levi_: we'd always tell our victims that running the river is safer than the drive to the river |
| 16:25.53 | elg | the power light |
| 16:25.58 | elg | just like the last time it died |
| 16:26.09 | tensai | elg: bad firmware or dead box |
| 16:26.30 | elg | probably firmware? I'm guessing it just is failing to boot |
| 16:26.41 | tensai | elg: does it blink green at all? |
| 16:26.44 | elg | nope |
| 16:27.16 | tensai | ok, try this |
| 16:27.21 | tensai | first, turn the modem over |
| 16:27.28 | tensai | next, smash it with the biggest thing you can find |
| 16:27.33 | tensai | you'll feel much better |
| 16:27.47 | tensai | and the internet will work just as well |
| 16:27.48 | elg | :) I would, but it's a rental |
| 16:28.13 | elg | they might be able to reflash it or something. I don't care |
| 16:29.32 | tensai | honestly I don't know a whole lot about other dsl modems. I think cisco has an 8xx model for a few hundred $$$, and there are quite a few out there, but I've never used them |
| 16:31.10 | tensai | redbearded_idiot: did you guys want to have lunch tomorrow? |
| 16:31.31 | redbearded_idiot | tensai: sure, that would be cool |
| 16:31.41 | tensai | stupid power outages. I would be a level 60 by now. |
| 16:32.02 | tensai | redbearded_idiot: guesstimate as to when you'll get here? |
| 16:32.47 | redbearded_idiot | tensai: we're gonna try and leave before 8am, so we're thinking a little after noon? |
| 16:35.36 | mrpull- | elg: i think there is an emergency recover option that involves booting from a TFTP server |
| 16:35.53 | mrpull- | it may even be easier than that if you have the CD that came packed with it. |
| 16:36.26 | mrpull- | is it a gt701? |
| 16:36.34 | elg | mrpull-: yes |
| 16:36.52 | elg | i do have the cd somewhere i think |
| 16:37.04 | mrpull- | http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/ActiontecGT701 |
| 16:37.29 | elg | ok, now that's just wierd |
| 16:38.25 | mrpull- | http://www.qwest.com/internethelp/modems/gt701-wg/index.html#firmware |
| 16:38.27 | mrpull- | too |
| 16:39.18 | mrpull- | hey, it even looks like there is a newer firmware than the one I'm running |
| 16:39.27 | mrpull- | elg: what is weird? |
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| 16:41.07 | elg | mrpull-: http://hans.fugal.net/seattle.html <- that email came to plug-owner@plug.org at 9:50 this morning |
| 16:42.19 | mrpull- | odd coincidence |
| 16:43.15 | mrpull- | it is suprising how many people within wifi range from my home have gt701-wg's without wep and the standard password |
| 16:43.19 | Jayce^ | elg, you take a peek at that box yet? |
| 16:43.35 | elg | Jayce^: nope |
| 16:43.43 | sjansen | ~blame tensai |
| 16:43.45 | ibot | ACTION blames tensai for the end of culture as we know it |
| 16:44.06 | mrpull- | how stupid would I be to remotely run the actiontec upgrade remotely? |
| 16:44.12 | mrpull- | remotely (again) |
| 16:46.22 | sjansen | mrpull-: I don't see how it could remotely affect me, so go ahead and give it a try. |
| 16:46.45 | mrpull- | sjansen: i logged out before the temptation overwhelmed me |
| 16:47.15 | mrpull- | maybe I should upgrade my neighbors' first to see if it is harmful |
| 16:47.19 | mrpull- | ;-) |
| 16:48.38 | Kuyaedz | My dad did that :). He was changing all kinds of settings to get his wireless right... and later realized his actiontec didn't come with a wireless card. |
| 16:48.50 | Kuyaedz | he had screwed up his neighbors broadcast thinking it was his |
| 16:49.03 | mrpull- | Kuyaedz: that is a great story! |
| 16:49.05 | sjansen | Just got Sento job spam looking for Ruby developers. Anybody want a copy? |
| 16:49.24 | sjansen | Kuyaedz++ |
| 16:50.31 | elg | sjansen: I got one the other day |
| 16:50.43 | elg | vontrapp interviewed |
| 16:51.24 | sjansen | I wish working for Guru Labs weren't so enjoyable, now's a great time to switch jobs. |
| 16:53.35 | elg | mrpull-: i'm not seeing anything on that page that will save me |
| 16:53.40 | elg | did you have something in mind? |
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| 16:57.17 | levi_ | elg: Did you say if you tried the tftp firmware reflash? |
| 16:59.21 | ^Migs^ | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/26/ebay_email_trauma/ |
| 16:59.38 | elg | i didn't try that. do you know how? |
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| 17:00.56 | sjansen | ~envy emcnabb |
| 17:03.26 | levi_ | Hah, some dude sold a broken laptop on ebay (without saying it was broken), but forgot to wipe the hard drive... |
| 17:03.39 | levi_ | The buyer put up a web page. |
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| 17:04.53 | sjansen | http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/1506 |
| 17:05.06 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 17:05.13 | emcnabb | levi_: you have a URL? |
| 17:05.27 | levi_ | http://www.amirtofangsazan.blogspot.com/ |
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| 17:06.15 | sjansen | Things are looking surprisingly good for Haskell. First Darcs and Pugs, now this. |
| 17:06.53 | sjansen | Maybe, just maybe, Haskell might be the language to finally bring the language astronauts in from the cold. |
| 17:06.54 | mrpull- | hans: you on OSX? |
| 17:07.22 | mrpull- | the firmware recovery instructions look to be windows only |
| 17:07.24 | elg | osx and linux yes |
| 17:07.26 | sjansen | mrpull-: Yes, elg has betrayed Tux. |
| 17:07.37 | sjansen | ~scorn elg |
| 17:07.44 | mrpull- | but maybe could be adapted if you have a tftp setup |
| 17:07.59 | elg | i've done tftp before in linux |
| 17:08.01 | mrpull- | WARNGING BIG PDF http://www.qwest.com/internethelp/modems/gt701-wg/docs/GT701_wg_QW05_Firmware_Recovery.pdf |
| 17:08.38 | levi_ | sjansen: That news hit LtU pretty late. I heard about it weeks ago. |
| 17:08.40 | Kuyaedz | levi_: sweet. thats hilarious |
| 17:09.11 | mrpull- | http://www.qwest.com/internethelp/modems/gt701-wg/docs/GT701wg_QW05_3_60_3_0_7_5_recovery-1.zip |
| 17:09.18 | elg | i do keep a windows box under the rug |
| 17:17.59 | findlay | the rug by the window? |
| 17:18.58 | tristanbob_ | anyone get NTP to work using the Date and Time GUI in Dapper? |
| 17:19.58 | tristanbob_ | It starts to install NTP, then fails with missing dependancies |
| 17:20.22 | Kuyaedz | tristanbob_: I get a similar result |
| 17:21.21 | tristanbob_ | hmmmm can you see if the error is just a warning? |
| 17:21.39 | tristanbob_ | meaning, does time synch work now? |
| 17:22.05 | sjansen | Real men don't need NTP. They can look at the sun or the stars and know what time it is, where they are located, and the shortest path to a Carl's Jr. |
| 17:22.15 | tristanbob_ | like crocadile dundee? |
| 17:22.23 | sjansen | pretty much |
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| 17:23.03 | findlay | the command for the day is lshw |
| 17:25.41 | mrpull- | ~man lshw |
| 17:26.37 | tristanbob_ | Kuyaedz: it looks like just a warning |
| 17:26.49 | tristanbob_ | Kuyaedz: did you click on show terminal or just let it run? |
| 17:26.59 | elg | sjansen: real men can tell what time it is on an overcast day |
| 17:27.42 | sjansen | Of course they can, but the like to glance in the direction of the sun or stars just to prove they already know where they are. |
| 17:28.15 | Kuyaedz | tristanbob_: don't remember.. its been a while since I tried |
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| 17:40.03 | emcnabb | ~lart amcnabb |
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| 17:41.24 | mheath | I'm going backwards, trying to get this wireless to work |
| 17:41.37 | findlay | ~qlart |
| 17:42.04 | mheath | I went from having the kernel recognize it, with an error related to firmware... |
| 17:42.08 | mheath | To the kernel not even seeing the card. |
| 17:42.44 | elg | what chipset |
| 17:46.45 | mheath | elg: Broadcom 4318 |
| 17:47.23 | elg | i have a broadcom chip and know the ins and outs. what's the trouble? |
| 17:47.41 | Kuyaedz | 4318 can be tricky. my 4306 seems towork well |
| 17:49.51 | mrpull- | mheath: i think it is maddening that lately it seems that livecd's and install routines support wifi setups only to find that they don't work in the full install |
| 17:51.42 | mheath | elg: well, have you used the native driver before? |
| 17:51.51 | mheath | I'm not using the ndiswrapper driver |
| 17:51.53 | elg | bcm43xx? yes |
| 17:52.03 | elg | that's what I use. works great, mostly |
| 17:52.12 | elg | i don't have the ndiswrapper option as it's ppc |
| 17:52.29 | elg | the native driver is quite new and not yet even beta |
| 17:52.37 | elg | but it works well with caveats |
| 17:52.48 | elg | best thing to do is just get 2.6.17-rc4 |
| 17:52.49 | emcnabb | ~whaleslap elg |
| 17:52.50 | ibot | ACTION beats elg upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 17:54.14 | mheath | elg: Well, I installed the firmware |
| 17:54.29 | mheath | and the first time I tried it, I got messages related to loading one of the firmware drivers |
| 17:55.57 | mheath | I played around, and even those disappeared....I just got a message related to loading the module, and an ACPI interrupt. |
| 17:56.23 | mheath | Then I rebooted |
| 17:57.21 | mheath | Now, the kernel log doesn't show ANYTHING related to that device, or even related to bcm43xx module when I load it |
| 17:57.42 | mheath | Despite the kernel logs not showing anything related to eth0, iwconfig still shows eth0. |
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| 17:58.50 | mheath | If I ignore that and just do a ifconfig eth0 up (after configuring the rate and essid with iwconfig), ifconfig will repot that there is lots of tx activity, but no rx activity |
| 17:59.05 | mheath | iwconfig reports no link |
| 17:59.39 | tensai | elg: holy cow. you're getting a ton of spam to info@fugal.net right now |
| 17:59.54 | mheath | elg: if it helps: |
| 18:00.05 | mheath | eth0 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID:"default" Nickname:"Broadcom 4318" Mode:Managed Frequency=2.437 GHz Access Point: Invalid Bit Rate=11 Mb/s Tx-Power=18 dBm RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 |
| 18:00.41 | elg | tensai: that's amusing. |
| 18:00.47 | elg | it'll all bounce |
| 18:00.54 | elg | or /dev/null or whatever |
| 18:01.13 | tensai | elg: yes, I know. 550 user unknown in virtual table. it's all getting stuck in my queue for some reason. |
| 18:01.23 | mheath | elg: no suggestions? =\ |
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| 18:02.00 | elg | mheath: you have to bring the link up, THEN set the essid, etc. |
| 18:02.08 | elg | one of the caveats (bugs) |
| 18:02.24 | tensai | elg: hee hee, not with my card. woohoo! |
| 18:02.31 | mheath | elg: I did. |
| 18:02.42 | mheath | ifconfig eth0 up |
| 18:02.47 | mheath | ifconfig eth0 essid default |
| 18:02.52 | mheath | erm |
| 18:02.58 | mheath | iwconfig eth0 essid default |
| 18:03.09 | mheath | iwconfig eth0 rate 11M |
| 18:03.13 | elg | not sure why you're not seeing anything in syslog, you should see lots of debug stuff. maybe you didn't select that in the kernel config? |
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| 18:03.19 | elg | essid is really default? |
| 18:03.35 | elg | you have to specify the essid, I think the auto hookup thing doesn't work |
| 18:03.55 | mheath | Yeah. |
| 18:04.54 | mheath | the essid is really "default" |
| 18:09.13 | macnewbold | that's not too uncommon |
| 18:09.29 | mheath | mheath@revolution:~$ sudo ifconfig eth0 up |
| 18:09.29 | mheath | mheath@revolution:~$ sudo iwconfig essid default |
| 18:09.29 | mheath | Error : unrecognised wireless request "default" |
| 18:09.29 | mheath | mheath@revolution:~$ sudo iwconfig eth0 essid default |
| 18:09.29 | mheath | mheath@revolution:~$ sudo iwconfig eth0 rate 11M |
| 18:09.30 | macnewbold | and better than calling it "linksys" or "belkin" or "dlink" or "actiontec" :) |
| 18:10.10 | Kuyaedz | mheath: what distro are you using? |
| 18:10.34 | mheath | Ubuntu Dapper |
| 18:11.13 | elg | uname -a |
| 18:11.32 | elg | have you tried setting the ip manually, or are you using dhcp? |
| 18:11.44 | sjansen | Anyone familiar with the Sympa mailing list software? |
| 18:11.44 | Kuyaedz | mheath: are you trying to use the bcm43xx or ndiswrapper? |
| 18:11.50 | mheath | Linux revolution 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 18:12.08 | elg | you really should try a newer kernel |
| 18:12.21 | mheath | elg: haven't tried manual |
| 18:12.27 | mheath | let me try that, then I'll try the kernel upgrade |
| 18:12.33 | elg | do try. some dhcp clients like to bring the interface down |
| 18:12.46 | mheath | Hold on a second |
| 18:12.54 | elg | udhcpc works ok, I've found |
| 18:13.07 | elg | my setup is wpa_supplicant with ifplugd |
| 18:13.31 | elg | works great. but you'll need a newer kernel than that because wpa_supplicant doesn't work with wep/clear without a recent patch. |
| 18:14.34 | Kuyaedz | mhealth: I had trouble with dapper for a long time until I used the bcm43xx-fwcutter package |
| 18:15.18 | mheath | mheath: thats what I used. |
| 18:16.23 | Kuyaedz | mhealth: try the /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh script |
| 18:16.25 | findlay | findlay: you need to go practice |
| 18:18.04 | Kuyaedz | mhealth: that was the key for me |
| 18:18.19 | Kuyaedz | ..but that was with my 4306 chip.. |
| 18:18.47 | mheath | Kuyaedz: already done that. |
| 18:19.29 | Kuyaedz | mheath: Hmm.. and did you say its not being recognized at all or just not connecting? |
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| 18:22.37 | elg | maybe the 4318 is less working |
| 18:23.06 | Kuyaedz | 4318 has been troublesome since the early Dapper Flight releases.. |
| 18:23.49 | mheath | I really don't feel like compiling my own kernel at the moment |
| 18:32.39 | mheath | Maybe I'll try ndiswrapperr |
| 18:32.48 | mheath | does anyone have a windows box that can do a favor for me? |
| 18:33.25 | Kuyaedz | whats that? |
| 18:35.04 | mheath | Need you to run a .exe for me. It extracts some files, just looking for someone to run it and zip up the resulting files |
| 18:35.23 | Kuyaedz | sure I'll do it.. |
| 18:36.35 | Kuyaedz | send me a link. prefer .zip? .rar? .tar.gz? |
| 18:37.30 | mheath | ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp32001-32500/sp32158.exe |
| 18:37.48 | mheath | Just zip. You can e-mail it as an attachment to Mike.Thomas.Heath@gmail.com |
| 18:40.01 | sjansen | .shar |
| 18:43.36 | mheath | Kuyaedz: let me know when you've sent it |
| 18:44.12 | bertbob | mheath you might just try unzip file.exe and see if that might do it for you |
| 18:44.29 | mheath | Already tried |
| 18:44.33 | mheath | its not a zip |
| 18:44.41 | mheath | Its some weird packaged autoextractor. |
| 18:45.02 | Kuyaedz | gmail just complained about contents of the .zip are unsafe.. one sec |
| 18:45.04 | bertbob | ok, just a thought...it works with the old MS font files |
| 18:45.06 | lars-ut | one small partition linuc raid autodetect partfor /boot.... one big partition for LVM to contain everything else... |
| 18:47.33 | mheath | Kuyaedz: mv file.zip THISISNOTAZIP.NOTAZIPATALL :P |
| 18:49.04 | sjansen | lars-ut: I assuming you mean raid1 for /boot? Interesting idea. Even if one mirror dies, you could boot from the other mirror... |
| 18:49.38 | sjansen | Personally, I wouldn't bother with RAID for /boot, but if I had the hardware using it for everything else and then putting LVM on top would be nice. |
| 18:49.49 | findlay | lars-ut is always coming up with out-of-the-ordinary clever hacks |
| 18:50.41 | Kuyaedz | mheath: just dropped it on my webserver instead. http://christer.homeip.net/bcm43xx.zip |
| 18:51.55 | mheath | Thanks, Kuyaedz |
| 18:52.04 | Kuyaedz | no prob |
| 18:52.08 | lars-ut | sjansen: I'm using software RAID, on some BIOSes you have to make sure that all hard drives are set in the boot order |
| 18:53.04 | lars-ut | findlay: this file server will be for a company that has Alpine in the name - I'm tyring to think of a clever name for it... |
| 18:53.15 | lars-ut | maybe Utah Mountain peaks? |
| 18:53.30 | sjansen | boring |
| 18:53.37 | lars-ut | timpanogos is not fun to spell though |
| 18:53.59 | lars-ut | sjansen: I know - I was gonna go w/Dr Seuss characters like I do at work of late |
| 18:54.02 | sjansen | How about evergreen parasites and diseases. All trees if you can't find a large enough list for just evergreens. |
| 18:54.14 | lars-ut | hmmm... |
| 18:54.42 | findlay | Carahadras |
| 18:54.50 | findlay | the Lonely Mountain |
| 18:54.59 | findlay | Mt. Doom |
| 18:55.19 | elg | timp |
| 18:55.28 | sjansen | wimp |
| 18:55.30 | elg | make it timpanogos, but with timp as an alias |
| 18:55.30 | findlay | Nebo |
| 18:55.37 | Kuyaedz | much easier to spell |
| 18:55.40 | elg | name it jayce^ |
| 18:55.43 | maquis | i vote for mt_doom |
| 18:55.47 | lars-ut | lol |
| 18:56.26 | findlay | Orodruin |
| 18:57.05 | findlay | Helm's Deep |
| 18:57.14 | sjansen | Name it jayce^, but with wimp as an alias |
| 18:57.57 | lars-ut | lol |
| 18:58.08 | findlay | Erebor |
| 18:58.10 | maquis | we've got a vote in here for vail |
| 18:58.13 | bertbob | or mountain flowers: lupin, yarrow, etc |
| 18:58.52 | findlay | sego lily |
| 18:59.00 | sjansen | ew, yarrow reminds me of Ralph Yarrow |
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| 19:00.00 | sjansen | There we go! Name them for SCO execs. |
| 19:00.00 | mheath | brb, giving ndiswrapper a try |
| 19:00.06 | beandog | Okay I have a really stupid question. |
| 19:00.07 | lars-ut | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasatch_Range |
| 19:00.16 | beandog | Should our /etc/localtime point to America/Denver or MST? |
| 19:00.47 | sjansen | America/Denver because sometimes you're in MST sometimes you're in MDT. |
| 19:01.09 | beandog | Ok |
| 19:01.11 | beandog | That makes sense. |
| 19:01.17 | beandog | So right now we are in -0600 UTC? |
| 19:01.20 | beandog | Is that right? |
| 19:01.34 | sjansen | sounds close at least |
| 19:01.44 | lars-ut | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granite |
| 19:01.58 | findlay | Mt. Olympus |
| 19:02.24 | lars-ut | Ah - Alpite. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aplite |
| 19:02.31 | lars-ut | crap |
| 19:02.39 | lars-ut | spelling doesn't work |
| 19:02.41 | lars-ut | :( |
| 19:02.51 | sjansen | I was looking at a timezone library recently. The author described timezones and daylight savings time as two of the stupidest things humans have ever invented. The more I learn, the more I'm inclined to agree. |
| 19:03.06 | beandog | heh |
| 19:03.12 | beandog | I find it all completely confusing. |
| 19:03.29 | findlay | well, it's better than it was before timezones were standardized |
| 19:05.07 | Kuyaedz | beandog: wasn't DST setup to save on power or something? |
| 19:05.17 | sjansen | It was. |
| 19:05.20 | lars-ut | "At 11,928 ft (3,636 m), Mount Nebo, located at the southern end of the range near Nephi, Utah, is the highest peak of the Wasatch. In many places the mountains rise immediately from the valley's base elevation of 4,330 feet (1,320 m) to well over 11,752 feet (3,582 m), producing steep inclines." |
| 19:05.20 | lars-ut | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasatch_Range |
| 19:05.28 | findlay | Moria |
| 19:05.30 | beandog | I think Ben Franklin originally conceived the idea because people were up early burning candles or something. |
| 19:05.41 | Kuyaedz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_Saving_Time |
| 19:05.57 | Kuyaedz | that's like 5 wiki link postings in the last 20 minutes |
| 19:06.13 | findlay | Nebo's a fun mountan to hike |
| 19:06.41 | findlay | very beautiful and a spectacular view |
| 19:06.56 | findlay | much less precarious than Timp |
| 19:08.06 | lars-ut | thanks for the suggestions! |
| 19:11.36 | sjansen | Man, why can't we call it Summer Time instead of DST. That'd make it _so_ much easier to remember which is which. |
| 19:15.27 | spr | Why can't we just not do it at all. I think AZ has the right idea. |
| 19:18.05 | sjansen | I love comparing the description of Windows TZ handling compared to Unix TZ handling. |
| 19:19.33 | sjansen | It's not like Microsoft had to break new ground to create a working solution. |
| 19:19.47 | sjansen | Nope, they had to break new ground to create a broken solution. |
| 19:24.41 | sjansen | ~pester goozbach |
| 19:24.43 | ibot | goozbach: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
| 19:24.49 | nick125 | time to get coding! weee |
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| 19:28.16 | mheath | basically the same thing with ndiswrapper |
| 19:28.28 | mheath | It acts like its set up, but doesn't work |
| 19:38.00 | levi_ | elg: Well, Just Like Heaven just shipped from Netflix. You'd better be right about it. ;) |
| 19:40.43 | Kuyaedz | mheath: sounds like you're victim of the 4318 limitation. Sucks. Its kind of a step back contained in a huge step forward. |
| 19:41.25 | mheath | Why do people treat me like I'm a moron when I ask questions in #ubuntu+1, etc? |
| 19:42.31 | mheath | It just seems like they always assume that the solution is the one that involves me having had the most ignorance or stupidity. |
| 19:46.06 | levi_ | Heh, this is kind of odd: http://calculist.blogspot.com/2006/05/ecmascript-reference-values.html |
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| 20:28.38 | elg | w00t, I got freenx working again |
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| 21:04.24 | levi_ | Heh heh, they're doing 'graphics testing' on a visualization cluster. |
| 21:04.36 | levi_ | Quake 4 looks REALLY nice. |
| 21:05.01 | levi_ | Smooth as glass with everything totally maxed out. |
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| 21:05.51 | Kuyaedz | http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,125772,pg,8,00.asp [pcworld - 25 worst tech products ever] |
| 21:05.53 | levi_ | Apparently the video cards in each machine cost $5000. |
| 21:10.23 | nick125 | RAID + LVM2 is cool when it works.. |
| 21:25.00 | elg | nifty. ardour works pretty well over nx |
| 21:27.28 | nick125 | you actually figured out how to use that thing? |
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| 21:31.41 | elg | nx or ardour? |
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| 21:39.45 | vontrapp_ | any one know what cpu scaling driver to use for an amd duron? |
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| 21:41.11 | Jayce^ | w00t! x3... |
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| 21:43.46 | findlay | Jayce^: already saw it |
| 21:44.12 | findlay | I don't want to give anything away but ... |
| 21:44.14 | findlay | ... |
| 21:44.20 | findlay | (: |
| 21:44.54 | vontrapp_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.40 | Jayce^ | findlay, exactly |
| 21:45.44 | Jayce^ | just blogging now.. |
| 21:45.54 | Kuyaedz | my wife has been bugging me to go.. not impressed with the reviews though |
| 21:45.57 | Jayce^ | there is just so many things you can't talk about without giving things away |
| 21:47.19 | findlay | it was pretty good as a comic movie goes. Some really dramatic scenes |
| 21:47.29 | findlay | scared vontrapp away |
| 21:48.01 | Jayce^ | quite intense parts |
| 21:48.27 | Kuyaedz | x-men has been the only comic-based film that I have felt worth seeing.. so far |
| 21:49.23 | Kuyaedz | wasn't impressed with hulk, daredevil, etc. |
| 21:52.10 | Jayce^ | Kuyaedz, yeah, most are bombs... |
| 21:52.18 | Jayce^ | Batman Begins was a notable exception |
| 21:52.21 | Jayce^ | very good one there |
| 21:52.47 | Kuyaedz | Batman Begins, I think, was the best batman. |
| 21:53.35 | Kuyaedz | I was reluctant since it was the, what, 4th or 5th actor change. I ended up liking it though |
| 22:02.31 | Kuyaedz | Yeah, spiderman was good. Although I can't stand whats-her-face |
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| 22:21.49 | bonez39 | curious....what do some of you use for a blog? |
| 22:22.10 | bonez39 | curious about linux s/w ... to run a successful blog |
| 22:24.22 | findlay | I use a room full of monkeys to generate my weblog |
| 22:24.33 | findlay | with keyboards, of course |
| 22:28.41 | Kuyaedz | bonez39: what software do we use? as in wordpress, blogger, etc? |
| 22:30.49 | findlay | bonez39: good question |
| 22:31.00 | findlay | I'm thinking about that too, occasionally |
| 22:31.22 | Kuyaedz | I love wordpress for mine. I've tried a few others & wordpress is great. |
| 22:32.04 | levi_ | bonez39: Wordpress is used frequently. The new hotness is Typo. |
| 22:32.27 | levi_ | I wrote my own. |
| 22:43.04 | levi_ | Cool, a draft of a new Algorithms book available online: http://www.cse.ucsd.edu/~dasgupta/mcgrawhill/all.pdf |
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| 23:38.18 | bonez39 | hmmm |
| 23:38.32 | bonez39 | findlay, yah, I was wondering about which blogging softwar..... |
| 23:38.46 | bonez39 | levi, I guess in addition to which software...where to host the blog |
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| 23:55.57 | levi | bonez39: I host it at home via DSL. |
| 23:56.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there anyone here who can delve deep into the Windows 2003 world in the area of RRAS/PPTP? |
| 23:56.43 | levi | Yow, the Porsche in the parking lot at work today goes for $93k. |
| 23:56.52 | levi | I wonder who owns it. |
| 23:57.07 | findlay | ibot: yo |
| 23:57.09 | ibot | Yo wazzaaaap my brotha?! |