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| 00:50.48 | levi | Mmm, Cock'n'Bull ginger ale. |
| 00:59.21 | lars-ut | I just installed Debian on an old Dell Optiplex 233 for a family webserver, and I'm looking for recommendations for a CMS... |
| 00:59.34 | lars-ut | I'd like it to be locked down for privacy |
| 00:59.39 | levi | What kind of cpu has an optiplex 233 got? |
| 00:59.45 | lars-ut | 233 |
| 00:59.50 | lars-ut | P@ |
| 00:59.51 | lars-ut | P2 |
| 01:00.04 | lars-ut | 128MB memory |
| 01:01.00 | lars-ut | Maybe a CMS with RSS feeds w/authentication & a calendar |
| 01:01.15 | levi | Well, I can tell you that drupal doesn't run very well on my pIII/450 |
| 01:02.04 | lars-ut | crud... I thought this throwaway box would be ok for this.... |
| 01:02.56 | brac | [CMS Matrix - cmsmatrix.org - The Content Management Comparison Tool] |
| 01:02.59 | levi | Well, what kind of CMS do you need? |
| 01:03.22 | levi | Something that generates static pages would run just fine. |
| 01:04.36 | lars-ut | funny - I was looking at a backend publishing system today for softwarefor.org |
| 01:04.53 | lars-ut | http://bricolage.cc/ |
| 01:04.54 | brac | [Welcome to Bricolage.cc] |
| 01:05.00 | levi | I think the problem with Drupal is largely database-related. I haven't made much attempt to analyze the performace problems. |
| 01:05.49 | lars-ut | I'm not too worried about load - maybe 5 concurrent requests max |
| 01:06.03 | lars-ut | the family won't be using it that much |
| 01:06.07 | levi | It's not load, it's page generation time. |
| 01:06.16 | levi | I never get more than one hit at a time. |
| 01:06.28 | levi | But at one point, it took over a second to render a page. |
| 01:07.01 | lars-ut | mySQL requests are what killed the first SSS server via MediaWiki |
| 01:07.13 | levi | It seemed to speed up quite a bit when I turned comments off and deleted tons of spam comments that I'd been keeping for a bayesian filter. |
| 01:07.18 | nick125 | yeah, it's probably mysql |
| 01:14.13 | lars-ut | cmsmatrix.org spit out the following: |
| 01:14.18 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:16.06 | lars-ut | I can install with apt-get? Sweet... http://www.midgard-project.org/documentation/installation-distros-debian/ |
| 01:16.08 | brac | [Midgard CMS - Debian GNU/Linux] |
| 01:16.34 | nick125 | I usually don't use package managers to install web applications.. |
| 01:16.51 | lars-ut | I'm fine with it |
| 01:17.31 | lars-ut | Usually there are post-installation steps to secure things |
| 01:17.46 | lars-ut | and the box isn't live yet anyway |
| 01:18.13 | lars-ut | It's sitting behind a firewall, unNATed |
| 01:30.10 | lars-ut | thank you xmission for the nice mirror... |
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| 01:50.15 | dilvie | hi |
| 01:50.59 | levi | Yo. |
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| 02:16.15 | QBFreak | its the TacoJockey! |
| 02:16.21 | QBFreak | win any races lately? |
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| 02:20.39 | lars-ut | s/midhard/Midgard |
| 02:21.11 | dilvie | elg! |
| 02:21.23 | elg | dilvie! |
| 02:21.30 | dilvie | hi. |
| 02:21.32 | dilvie | =) |
| 02:21.44 | dilvie | any time to work on that plugin, recently? |
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| 02:27.29 | elg | where do you live? |
| 02:30.24 | TacoJockey | Hiya hehe |
| 02:30.34 | TacoJockey | QBFreak, sorry, work was busy |
| 02:30.48 | TacoJockey | I just ate a burrito and it's probably why I'm sitting by myself at work |
| 02:31.31 | dilvie | me? |
| 02:31.42 | levi_ | Who? What? |
| 02:31.44 | dilvie | I live at the base of capital hill on 700 N in salt lake city |
| 02:57.07 | bertbob | that's pretty close to me at 350 N. eeek |
| 03:09.49 | dilvie | hi |
| 03:09.49 | Supaplex | hey :) |
| 03:09.49 | dilvie | 'sup Scott? |
| 03:09.58 | Supaplex | thinking not so nice thoughts about this mac osx vnc server |
| 03:11.07 | dilvie | osx blows. |
| 03:11.20 | dilvie | it just blows a little less than *cough* other operating systems. |
| 03:11.38 | Supaplex | like dos. |
| 03:11.51 | dilvie | no. DOS rules. |
| 03:11.53 | dilvie | Everybody loves DOS. |
| 03:12.52 | dilvie | have you ever seen DOS bluescreen? No? Didn't think so. When it crashes, you get cool video glitches and system hangs, or random trampling of the filesystem. That's totally l33t, y0. |
| 03:13.00 | QBFreak | hehe |
| 03:13.36 | Supaplex | I've seen qemm panic |
| 03:13.53 | dilvie | DOS had multi-tasking built into it from version 4 on, and NEVER ENABLED IT. |
| 03:14.06 | dilvie | DOS was TOO COOL to multitask -- even though it knew how. |
| 03:14.17 | nick125 | haha |
| 03:14.59 | QBFreak | why in the heck would I want to multitask? |
| 03:15.04 | Supaplex | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QEMM wow, it's there. |
| 03:15.19 | QBFreak | I'd just tell QuickBasic to open a console for me, do my thing, and back to Basic :) |
| 03:15.32 | dilvie | QBFreak: yeah, seriously.. never heard of "shell to DOS" functionality? really.. |
| 03:15.41 | QBFreak | you could actually do some multitasking with DOSSHELL |
| 03:15.52 | QBFreak | iirc |
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| 03:22.03 | levi_ | Oh boy, a BYU professor has some WTC conspiracy theory. |
| 03:22.26 | levi_ | "It took more than two jet planes to bring the World Trade Center down..." |
| 03:23.20 | Supaplex | yea, gravity. |
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| 03:30.38 | atoponce | ok. i'm stumped. i give up |
| 03:30.56 | nick125 | lol |
| 03:31.16 | atoponce | i can't find what i'm looking for |
| 03:31.42 | maquis | ~say hello maquis |
| 03:31.43 | ibot | hello maquis |
| 03:31.45 | maquis | hmmm |
| 03:31.46 | levi_ | What are you looking for? |
| 03:31.47 | maquis | it's not working |
| 03:32.01 | maquis | oh... that's probably why |
| 03:32.05 | atoponce | i neet an mp3 text generator |
| 03:32.17 | maquis_ | ha |
| 03:32.20 | maquis_ | works over here |
| 03:33.09 | atoponce | i need a generator that makes a flat ascii text file of my collection |
| 03:33.37 | atoponce | i could've written one in all the time i have been searching |
| 03:34.36 | atoponce | needs to recognize ogg and mp3, and make the file pretty and stuff |
| 03:35.15 | atoponce | more than just ls |
| 03:35.17 | atoponce | :) |
| 03:35.23 | nick125 | yeah, you could've done it by hand faster |
| 03:35.43 | atoponce | but why reinvent the whell, you know? |
| 03:35.44 | Supaplex | #!/bin/sh |
| 03:36.06 | atoponce | s/whell/wheel |
| 03:36.35 | nick125 | hmm.. |
| 03:36.57 | nick125 | what format do you need the output? |
| 03:37.16 | nick125 | like.. |
| 03:37.17 | atoponce | flat ascii text |
| 03:37.23 | nick125 | do you want it like this: |
| 03:37.33 | nick125 | Song - Artist (file) or what |
| 03:37.45 | atoponce | well... |
| 03:39.01 | nick125 | if you could tell me that, I'll write you up something really quick |
| 03:39.34 | nick125 | nvm..hold on |
| 03:40.25 | atoponce | you don't have to code one for me |
| 03:40.36 | nick125 | I could use something like it too.. |
| 03:40.44 | atoponce | unless you feel so inclined |
| 03:40.52 | nick125 | I'm bored and have nothing better to do |
| 03:41.13 | atoponce | alphabetical by folder first off |
| 03:41.45 | atoponce | then in each folder, any sub-folders alph and so on |
| 03:42.30 | atoponce | tab-indent for each sub folder |
| 03:43.14 | atoponce | then just list the songs in alph order in each folder |
| 03:43.41 | atoponce | so fairly straight forward |
| 03:43.48 | atoponce | and easy |
| 03:44.53 | atoponce | it doesn't need to look at id3 tags, although that would be cool |
| 03:45.02 | atoponce | just file names |
| 03:45.52 | mrpull-x | atoponce: have you seen libferris? |
| 03:46.00 | atoponce | no... |
| 03:47.32 | mrpull-x | it is an interesting "filesystem" enhancement. i've only read about it. |
| 03:47.59 | mrpull-x | but basically, it's version of ls can show id3 tags |
| 03:48.02 | Supaplex | w/ or w/o rusting? |
| 03:48.04 | mrpull-x | and other meta data |
| 03:48.30 | mrpull-x | but it also allows you to mount databases and other apps and use them like a standard file system |
| 03:48.48 | mrpull-x | http://witme.sourceforge.net/libferris.web/index.html |
| 03:48.50 | brac | [About libferris] |
| 03:48.56 | atoponce | cool. might be a little over-kill for what i need |
| 03:49.34 | mrpull-x | it's probably not practical for a producion system, but an interesting distraction if you are looking for an alternative to coding something up |
| 03:50.03 | atoponce | i could use the practice. i am just lazy right now |
| 03:52.11 | QBFreak | anyone know anything about writing blootbot modules, or any other perl-based bot if a different one is suggested |
| 04:00.58 | atoponce | i give up. i guess it's time to stretch my 1337 skillz |
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| 04:06.24 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.24 | nick125 | KeyError: 't' |
| 04:06.34 | nick125 | when it's trying to add to a dict..wtf |
| 04:08.10 | nick125 | oh I see why |
| 04:08.12 | nick125 | == instead of = |
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| 04:14.32 | nick125 | this is gonna be soo ugly but.. |
| 04:18.51 | nick125 | hmm |
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| 05:00.37 | maquis | hmm... so, this guy from pune decided he needed to email plug twice? |
| 05:07.33 | nick125 | okay.. |
| 05:07.51 | nick125 | I don't get this: someone wants to make a text editor for python, and, it would be open source |
| 05:07.57 | nick125 | however, he wants to charge for it |
| 05:08.13 | nick125 | I don't get this.. |
| 05:47.40 | nick125 | okay.. |
| 05:47.51 | nick125 | here's their argument: if they pay for it, they think its better |
| 05:53.08 | mheath[laptop] | http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/24/military.funerals.ap/index.html?section=cnn_topstories |
| 05:53.10 | brac | [CNN.com - Senate passes funeral protest ban - May 24, 2006] |
| 05:53.15 | mheath[laptop] | Why in the WORLD is that legislation even necessary? |
| 05:53.32 | mheath[laptop] | What kind of people are in this country, protesting at the funerals of heroes who died serving our country? |
| 05:53.54 | Supaplex | the kind that belive it should be illegal to die |
| 05:56.02 | mheath[laptop] | I'm joining the Marine Corp...and sometimes I wonder if this country is worth putting my life on the line for. |
| 05:56.30 | Supaplex | country, yes. leaders, debatable. |
| 05:56.55 | levi | Was the soldier gay or something? |
| 05:57.00 | mheath[laptop] | levi, No. |
| 05:57.18 | mheath[laptop] | They believe our soldiers (any soldiers) dieing is a sign of gods wrath against gays. Whether or not the soldier was gay or not. |
| 05:57.18 | Supaplex | the protesters sure were </cheapshot> |
| 05:57.31 | levi | OK, that makes a lot of sense. |
| 05:57.59 | levi | It's Fred Phelps, though. He's... pretty evil. |
| 05:58.00 | mheath[laptop] | Indeed. |
| 05:58.16 | mheath[laptop] | mark my words, you pull this crap at MY military funeral, and I will pop out of the freakin casket and kill YOU. I guarantee that. |
| 05:58.18 | mheath[laptop] | :P |
| 05:58.47 | mheath[laptop] | I find this so freakin rediculous. This group has been known for doing stuff like those protests.... |
| 05:59.23 | mheath[laptop] | But it was always for someone who was openly gay. Protesting at the funeral of some gay kid who was murdered, etc. Screwed up, but not quite this nonsensical. |
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| 06:05.51 | levi | It's Fred Phelps. He doesn't make any sense. Some people suspect him of being an agent provocateur, just because he's so unbelievably nasty. |
| 06:24.15 | nick125 | who here thinks this is gonna be a good idea: a moded IDE where it has several modes, a word processing mode, and a coding mode, with several submodes like a python mode, etc |
| 06:25.10 | nick125 | you could be typing a letter in one tab, and coding a python file in another |
| 06:31.09 | findlay | smalltalk |
| 06:31.19 | levi | It's called emacs. |
| 06:32.08 | nick125 | nah, I'm talking like..abiword type WYSIWYG thing.. |
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| 12:30.44 | emcnabb | good morning |
| 12:32.09 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
| 12:35.54 | emcnabb | -lart elg |
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| 13:10.08 | emcnabb | ibot: don't we all? |
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| 14:01.32 | elg | sigh. I need more disk space |
| 14:02.03 | emcnabb | I did too until a month ago |
| 14:02.10 | elg | rm -rf? |
| 14:02.20 | emcnabb | a 160 GB drive on a laptop is nice |
| 14:02.56 | elg | with debugging symbols, building ardour takes about 400-500MB, then a make install takes another 400 or so |
| 14:03.18 | elg | compiling also eats up VM, so my 2 gigs free suddenly became 0 |
| 14:06.35 | elg | i think an external drive may be best |
| 14:06.55 | elg | usb2 over FW I think |
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| 14:45.45 | elg | is everyone on vacation today? |
| 14:46.40 | redbearded_idiot | elg: i'm here |
| 14:47.43 | elg | that makes me feel better |
| 14:47.49 | redbearded_idiot | it should |
| 14:48.21 | graphyx | I be happy if all the canabols left. |
| 14:48.26 | graphyx | ~spell canabols |
| 14:48.33 | graphyx | cannibals |
| 14:48.50 | redbearded_idiot | how about cannabis? |
| 14:49.03 | graphyx | oh you were talking about elg, not evilherbivore. |
| 14:49.06 | graphyx | nvm then. |
| 14:49.13 | graphyx | I'll just shut up |
| 14:49.39 | redbearded_idiot | i saw cannabis on the list, that's all |
| 14:57.36 | redbearded_idiot | ah, there we go. my idiot story has hit the openclue |
| 15:08.09 | Jayce^ | elg, I'm usually one to buy drives and enclosure's separate.. often cheaper, especially if you are wrapping up an old drive you have laying around |
| 15:08.34 | elg | no old drives at the moment |
| 15:08.36 | Jayce^ | but I do have one that I bought all together, a larger WD firewire/usb2 combo.. and it's really really nice (much quieter) |
| 15:09.10 | Jayce^ | if you are going for portability and just a "big enough" drive for more space (20-60 gb), then you will probably want a 2.5" drive |
| 15:09.47 | Jayce^ | and you can get good enclosures from 15-30 bucks, and then buy a drive |
| 15:09.52 | Jayce^ | or you can get them together |
| 15:10.05 | Jayce^ | with memorial day weekend here, most stores will have sales on them |
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| 15:11.22 | Jayce^ | neybar, you working at home today? |
| 15:11.26 | neybar | yes |
| 15:12.06 | Jayce^ | ah |
| 15:12.26 | Jayce^ | just talking to elg about enclosures, which brand is your's? probably just like he would want |
| 15:13.17 | Jayce^ | neybar, you're missing out, remember that fire-roasted garlic salsa I had last year? I've got more here now :) |
| 15:13.21 | Jayce^ | and a big old bag of chips |
| 15:14.01 | elg | i'm looking at things and seeing that i can go from 40gb to 100+ in $10, so maybe "just big enough" is a bad criteria |
| 15:14.33 | neybar | http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=370878 |
| 15:14.34 | brac | [ZipZoomFly Vantec NST-260U2-RD NexStar 3 2.5in External Enclosure (Brilliant Red)] |
| 15:15.00 | neybar | bummer, that sounds good |
| 15:15.11 | Jayce^ | it is... oh it is |
| 15:16.22 | neybar | the only thing that I am a little unhappy about with that enclosure is that it needs 2 usb ports to power it. You can buy a separate power source, but I haven't done that yet. I can't plug the enclosure into my laptop because the usb ports are too far apart and it won't power the enclosure |
| 15:16.42 | neybar | other then that it is great. It is really small, and looks sharp. |
| 15:18.15 | Jayce^ | elg, then there are deals like :http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=202611624&adid=17662 |
| 15:18.16 | brac | [Buy.com - Fantom Drives Titanium USB 2.0 120GB Hard Drive 7200rpm - TFDU12072A] |
| 15:18.23 | Jayce^ | not as small in size, but a decent price |
| 15:18.29 | elg | heard bad things from dr. google about fantom |
| 15:18.40 | Jayce^ | it was the first deal I saw... |
| 15:18.43 | redbearded_idiot | dr. google? |
| 15:18.57 | Jayce^ | I really like that WD I got |
| 15:19.35 | elg | it's so hard to keep up with hard drive prejudices though. WD has given me trouble in the past, but apparently they've improved |
| 15:20.06 | neybar | I can't stand WD |
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| 15:20.42 | Jayce^ | the thing I hate about enclosures like http://www.pcmicrostore.com/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:10503548&kbid=1237 is that they require fat or ntfs ... bleh |
| 15:20.56 | Jayce^ | I'd really like one with the ethernet on it otherwise |
| 15:22.26 | elg | i once messed with a "network drive" at work |
| 15:22.52 | elg | the thing ran linux and samba. thought that was cool |
| 15:23.20 | Jayce^ | most of the ones that do that are too expensive for me.. |
| 15:23.31 | Jayce^ | I'm not a big spender like the fugals... :-p |
| 15:26.19 | harleypig | I AM HERE! |
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| 15:27.05 | redbearded_idiot | ~lart harleypig |
| 15:27.17 | Jayce^ | ~smack harleypig |
| 15:27.19 | ibot | ACTION smacks harleypig upside the head. |
| 15:27.30 | Jayce^ | lucky, thought about kicking him, just for the perfect irony of it |
| 15:28.00 | redbearded_idiot | ~kick harleypig |
| 15:28.02 | ibot | bugger off sod! |
| 15:28.07 | redbearded_idiot | whoa! |
| 15:28.26 | neybar | why are we kicking harleypig ? |
| 15:28.28 | redbearded_idiot | somebody woke up on the wrong side of the server this morning |
| 15:28.41 | redbearded_idiot | neybar: it makes you feel better. c'mon, try it! |
| 15:29.08 | neybar | ~nerf Jayce^ |
| 15:29.30 | redbearded_idiot | -nerf jayce |
| 15:30.25 | Jayce^ | ack |
| 15:31.30 | harleypig | ~nerf Jayce^ |
| 15:31.39 | harleypig | ~flood Jayce^ |
| 15:31.40 | ibot | ACTION blasts Jayce^ with a huge firehose then strangles Jayce^ with it |
| 15:31.46 | harleypig | :D |
| 15:31.52 | Jayce^ | ~give redbearded_idiot a picture of harleypig playing the role of the coppertone girl |
| 15:31.53 | ibot | ACTION gives a picture of harleypig playing the role of the coppertone girl to redbearded_idiot |
| 15:32.08 | harleypig | the cable channel version |
| 15:32.14 | redbearded_idiot | gah! |
| 15:32.24 | redbearded_idiot | ~bfg Jayce^ |
| 15:32.51 | Jayce^ | ~bzflag harleypig |
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| 15:35.59 | elg | usb speed? disk speed? |
| 15:36.05 | elg | is it worth looking at sata, in other words |
| 15:36.24 | redbearded_idiot | elg: they usually put the neck at the top of the bottle |
| 15:38.06 | harleypig | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2145270&SRCCODE=WEBGOOHD&CMP=KNC-GOOGL |
| 15:38.09 | brac | [Seagate 160GB 7200 8MB Ultra ATA-100 EIDE OEM Hard Drive and eTrust Internet Security Suite 2006 at TigerDirect.com] |
| 15:38.21 | harleypig | after rebate, $30 |
| 15:38.26 | Jayce^ | elg, usb speed |
| 15:38.44 | Jayce^ | firewire is quite a bit better if you have any other devices too.. |
| 15:39.08 | Jayce^ | mmmm, seagate |
| 15:39.28 | elg | harleypig: tempting. You buy it and I'll buy it from you for $45 |
| 15:39.32 | elg | you make $15 profit |
| 15:39.38 | elg | (if you manage to get the rebate) |
| 15:39.51 | harleypig | :> |
| 15:41.11 | harleypig | oh ... it's 3 rebates. ew |
| 15:41.28 | Jayce^ | hate those, I'll think about it if there is 1, any more than that and it's not worth it |
| 15:42.52 | maquis | true... although, i've already got 1 160, and i'd like to set up raid5 eventually |
| 15:44.02 | harleypig | I want one of those trans-dimensional combination storage and processing power devices. |
| 15:44.37 | elg | what do you all think of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817185006 |
| 15:44.39 | brac | [SCYTHE NU350PS-OTP External Enclosure - Retail at Newegg.com] |
| 15:46.10 | elg | anyone looking to sell a couple gigs of HDD? |
| 15:46.29 | maquis | who stole my brush? |
| 15:48.18 | Jayce^ | maquis, you'd better not be quoting veggie tales there |
| 15:48.28 | Jayce^ | elg, hey, you have access to the new plug box :-p |
| 15:48.56 | Jayce^ | both ide and sata hunh... |
| 15:49.22 | elg | the old plug box has scsi drives, right? |
| 15:49.32 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 15:50.38 | maquis | Jayce^: erm... no... |
| 15:50.48 | maquis | my brush was missing, so i figured someone here must've stolen it |
| 15:51.31 | Jayce^ | ~/o oh where is my hairbrush... oh where is my hairbrush... ~/o |
| 15:51.32 | ibot | ACTION sings with jayce^ |
| 15:51.37 | redbearded_idiot | maquis: toothbrush or hairbrush? |
| 15:52.37 | Jayce^ | http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/Veggie-Tales/Hairbrush-Song.html |
| 15:52.54 | maquis | redbearded_idiot: hairbrush... and why are you an idiot today? |
| 15:53.11 | brac | [Veggie Tales - Hairbrush Song Lyrics] |
| 15:53.15 | Jayce^ | today? |
| 15:53.15 | maquis | Jayce^: hmmm i've never seen veggie-tales... |
| 15:53.31 | maquis | Jayce^: well, as opposed to normal |
| 15:53.36 | redbearded_idiot | maquis: it wasn't me then |
| 15:53.42 | maquis | redbearded_idiot: ok... |
| 15:53.56 | redbearded_idiot | maquis: i'm an idiot for how i screwed up a perfectly lousy fudge recipe |
| 15:53.58 | maquis | well, whoever it was decided to put it back in my bathroom after i complained... |
| 15:54.07 | maquis | redbearded_idiot: you screwed up a lousy recipe? |
| 15:54.11 | maquis | that's not too bad... |
| 15:54.17 | maquis | i can screw up really good recipes |
| 15:54.28 | redbearded_idiot | well... i screwed up and used a lousy recipe when i really should have known better |
| 15:54.38 | maquis | oh |
| 15:54.41 | maquis | hmmm |
| 15:55.03 | maquis | well... i'm still learning very slowly, so i am not yet good at determining the quality of recipes... |
| 15:55.11 | Jayce^ | maquis, it's like running into a brick wall... at full speed... and jumping obstacles to get to said wall |
| 15:55.13 | maquis | if i had the recipe for hippo fudge, i'd give it to you, though |
| 15:55.24 | redbearded_idiot | Jayce^: bingo |
| 15:56.02 | redbearded_idiot | what is hippo fudge? |
| 15:56.14 | maquis | well... last year, my roommate made really amazing fudge |
| 15:56.21 | maquis | but she wouldn't give anybody the recipe... |
| 15:56.49 | Jayce^ | must've been a windows person |
| 15:56.50 | maquis | so, some guys from the complex stole her big stuffed hippo, and held it for ransom, and thus got the fudge recipe |
| 15:57.39 | redbearded_idiot | what kind of fudge is it? |
| 15:58.41 | redbearded_idiot | if you swing me the recipe, i'll make some |
| 15:58.50 | graphyx | You ever make mango salsa? |
| 15:59.16 | maquis | redbearded_idiot: it's a regular fudge. nothing crazy in it as far as i know... |
| 15:59.20 | Jayce^ | graphyx, you read openclue? |
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| 15:59.37 | graphyx | I skim through it occassionally. |
| 15:59.45 | graphyx | Was thinking about adding my obsolete blog to it. |
| 15:59.57 | graphyx | obsolete since it doesn't have an entry for over a yaer. |
| 16:00.02 | graphyx | s/yaer/year/ |
| 16:00.07 | Jayce^ | graphyx, redbearded_idiot posted about that last week |
| 16:00.10 | maquis | redbearded_idiot: btw, i really appreciate the hash recipes... :) i end up with a lot of similar types of things, but yours always sound better than naything i've made |
| 16:00.22 | redbearded_idiot | graphyx: the recipe is still up on openclue, towards the bottom |
| 16:00.30 | graphyx | Nice., |
| 16:00.33 | graphyx | Ok. |
| 16:00.34 | graphyx | Did it work? |
| 16:00.43 | Jayce^ | it did... |
| 16:01.13 | redbearded_idiot | graphyx: believe it or not, i actually don't screw up TOO many dishes these days |
| 16:01.29 | graphyx | It wasn't a jab at you. |
| 16:01.40 | redbearded_idiot | ^_^ |
| 16:03.34 | redbearded_idiot | maquis: thanks. my dad taught me how to make hash years ago, so you have him to thank |
| 16:03.59 | graphyx | Perhaps I'll swing by the store and get the stuff to make it and try it out for lunch. |
| 16:04.56 | graphyx | well perhaps not. Too many ingredients that I wouldn't know what else to use it for. |
| 16:05.02 | graphyx | And my wife can't touch tropical fruits. |
| 16:05.20 | bonez39 | graphyx, what about "tropical fruits" bothers your wife? |
| 16:05.44 | graphyx | Allergies. |
| 16:06.01 | graphyx | to pineapple (sores on the inside of the mouth), magno, papayas, etc. |
| 16:06.11 | graphyx | nuts.. |
| 16:06.19 | redbearded_idiot | oh man. that's harsh! |
| 16:06.21 | graphyx | walnuts, other such stuff. |
| 16:06.40 | redbearded_idiot | i love tropical fruit. |
| 16:06.40 | graphyx | The doctors have told her that she probably has a latent latex allergy. |
| 16:06.49 | graphyx | since she is alergic to everything in that family. |
| 16:07.05 | redbearded_idiot | how about regular salsa? |
| 16:07.09 | graphyx | So we always have to have them use latex free stuff for the hospitals. |
| 16:07.14 | graphyx | She doesn't like salsa anyways. |
| 16:07.20 | graphyx | nothing spicy. |
| 16:07.26 | redbearded_idiot | salsa can be mild. |
| 16:07.27 | graphyx | I like medium salsa and mexican food. |
| 16:07.40 | graphyx | She hates onions and celery. |
| 16:07.55 | graphyx | At least we agree on italian food. |
| 16:07.58 | redbearded_idiot | wow. that's harsh too. |
| 16:08.02 | redbearded_idiot | italian is good. |
| 16:08.16 | graphyx | Too bad serving a mission in Italy has made me a rather harsh critic of any american italian food. |
| 16:08.22 | graphyx | ;) |
| 16:08.35 | redbearded_idiot | uh oh. |
| 16:08.39 | graphyx | olive garden -> no way. |
| 16:08.54 | graphyx | Fasozoli's -> I'd rather eat paper. |
| 16:09.07 | graphyx | the recipices are fine. |
| 16:09.14 | graphyx | IT's the ingredients and how you cook them. |
| 16:09.36 | graphyx | I come home from my mission and made up a big pot of just standard marinara sauce like I always did. |
| 16:09.43 | neybar | agreed graphyx. I can't stand olive garden |
| 16:09.49 | graphyx | It was so different than what I was used to I almost cried. |
| 16:09.54 | graphyx | Seriously. |
| 16:10.01 | redbearded_idiot | oh man. i haven't made marinara for a long time. |
| 16:10.17 | graphyx | My friend said that they loved it, but it didn't work for me. |
| 16:10.38 | graphyx | He got married like a week after I got back so for his wedding I gave him a quart of home made spaghetti sauce. |
| 16:10.42 | graphyx | I have no money. |
| 16:10.50 | neybar | lol |
| 16:10.50 | graphyx | s/have/had/ |
| 16:11.27 | redbearded_idiot | i got burned out on red sauce a few years ago, so i switched to white sauce. and now i've been getting burned out on that. red sauce is okay again, but only in extreme moderation, if such a thing exists |
| 16:12.01 | neybar | you obviously aren't making the right "red" sauce then |
| 16:12.23 | graphyx | Try this one. |
| 16:12.24 | redbearded_idiot | neybar: i wasn't making it. i was using store-bought stuff. |
| 16:12.29 | graphyx | Take a can of tuna, fry it up. |
| 16:12.36 | levi_ | Morning, everyone. |
| 16:12.39 | graphyx | Put in a little bit of perperoncino. |
| 16:12.43 | graphyx | not american stuff. |
| 16:12.49 | graphyx | The little peppers from italy. |
| 16:12.56 | redbearded_idiot | right right |
| 16:12.57 | graphyx | And Just put a red sauce on top fo that. |
| 16:13.02 | redbearded_idiot | that's it? |
| 16:13.06 | graphyx | Yeah. |
| 16:13.09 | redbearded_idiot | no pasta? |
| 16:13.17 | graphyx | of course you put it on paste. |
| 16:13.19 | graphyx | pasta. |
| 16:13.21 | graphyx | That is just the sauce. |
| 16:13.24 | redbearded_idiot | *whew* |
| 16:13.37 | graphyx | Add some oil for the cooking. |
| 16:13.44 | graphyx | good olive oil. |
| 16:13.55 | redbearded_idiot | pure or extra virgin? |
| 16:14.01 | graphyx | extra virgin |
| 16:14.11 | neybar | does the tuna have dolphin or no dolphin? |
| 16:14.12 | graphyx | That is all we used back there. |
| 16:14.20 | graphyx | neybar: As you desire. |
| 16:14.31 | graphyx | Simple stuff. |
| 16:14.43 | graphyx | Another one we liked to do was this simple one. |
| 16:14.52 | graphyx | Carrots, onion, and celery. Chopped up fine. |
| 16:14.56 | graphyx | Fly it up on low. |
| 16:15.27 | neybar | speaking of simple recipes with tuna, boil up a pot of macaroni noodles, drain, then dump in a can of tuna, and salt and pepper to taste. Easy and tasty too. |
| 16:15.39 | graphyx | Then throw in some meat on top of it. Fresh sausage, or good hamburger, or proscitto (Cured Ham) (Or all three) |
| 16:15.50 | neybar | oh yeah and don't forget a pat or two of butter. |
| 16:15.51 | graphyx | Then let that cook for a while. |
| 16:15.59 | graphyx | And put on the sauce on top of that. |
| 16:16.07 | graphyx | And just let it simmer for hours. |
| 16:16.20 | Jayce^ | neybar, on ICA this week, this french chef did a butter poached tuna... |
| 16:16.24 | graphyx | With the right tomato sauce it is really good. |
| 16:17.04 | neybar | that recipe got me through college... |
| 16:17.13 | neybar | :) |
| 16:17.17 | graphyx | GEEKSCANCOOK.COM is available! |
| 16:17.27 | graphyx | blog anyone? |
| 16:17.27 | redbearded_idiot | graphyx: grab it! |
| 16:17.38 | graphyx | seriously? |
| 16:17.56 | redbearded_idiot | foodvoyeur.com is already taken. i can't imagine who would want that. |
| 16:18.33 | redbearded_idiot | graphyx: actually, i think i already have plenty domains. but thanks tho. |
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| 16:27.46 | lars-ut | I need to register a domain name & buy POP3 & web hosting for it mighty quick - today's #utah recommendations? |
| 16:27.56 | lars-ut | this is for a consulting gig |
| 16:28.39 | bonez39 | this is all making me hungry |
| 16:32.29 | sjansen | Jayce^ too... |
| 16:32.46 | sjansen | ~applaud redbearded_idiot, graphyx & Jayce^ |
| 16:32.47 | ibot | ACTION gives redbearded_idiot, graphyx & Jayce^ a standing ovation |
| 16:32.52 | sjansen | bah |
| 16:33.34 | redbearded_idiot | sjansen: you're just jealous that you weren't invited to the taping |
| 16:33.42 | sjansen | ibot: applaud $target is <action> pins $target to the wall with steak knives, then gives $target a hanging ovation |
| 16:33.43 | ibot | ACTION applauds $target is <action> pins $target to the wall with steak knives, then gives $target a hanging ovation enthusiastically! |
| 16:33.51 | sjansen | ibot: no applaud $target is <action> pins $target to the wall with steak knives, then gives $target a hanging ovation |
| 16:33.52 | ibot | okay, sjansen |
| 16:34.00 | sjansen | ~applaud redbearded_idiot, graphyx & Jayce^ |
| 16:34.02 | ibot | ACTION pins redbearded_idiot, graphyx & Jayce^ to the wall with steak knives, then gives redbearded_idiot, graphyx & Jayce^ a hanging ovation |
| 16:34.12 | redbearded_idiot | ibot: don't listent to him |
| 16:35.19 | redbearded_idiot | ~grill sjansen |
| 16:36.15 | sjansen | Okay, that's cool. Suddenly I'm thinking I should right a Ruby+Postfix equivalent to the Python+Sendmail milter thing torriem mentioned, just so I won't be tempted to use Python or Sendmail. |
| 16:36.21 | harleypig | http://www.asciimaps.com/ What a totally cool waste of time! |
| 16:36.22 | sjansen | s/right/write |
| 16:38.01 | findlay | I think it would be so much better if you righted one |
| 16:38.47 | redbearded_idiot | harleypig: oh man. that's awesome! |
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| 16:46.27 | sjansen | harleypig, emcnabb: get back to work! |
| 16:46.36 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 16:46.56 | sjansen | redbearded_idiot: Cook me something! If you leave now, you should be able to make it to NJ by dinner. |
| 16:47.37 | redbearded_idiot | sjansen: what are you doing in NJ? and what makes you think i want to be there too? |
| 16:49.34 | sjansen | I'm teachin a class, of course. Who said anything about you wanting to be here? I said I wanted you to make me something nice for dinner. Now get to work, you're wasting daylight! |
| 16:50.14 | redbearded_idiot | sjansen: that's what i do, is waste daylight. |
| 16:50.23 | Jayce^ | and O2 |
| 16:50.32 | mheath[laptop] | I just wasted a lot of daylight sleeping. |
| 16:50.51 | mheath[laptop] | I'm trying to think of someone thats known me well for the past 7 years..... |
| 16:51.02 | mheath[laptop] | It can't be family |
| 16:51.19 | mheath[laptop] | My friends have changed several times over that time period. |
| 16:51.23 | redbearded_idiot | mheath[laptop]: i can pretend |
| 16:51.27 | macnewbold | neighbors? |
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| 16:51.50 | mheath[laptop] | macnewbold, hmm, good idea. |
| 16:52.04 | macnewbold | unless you've moved a lot in the last 7 years :) |
| 16:52.08 | mheath[laptop] | redbearded_idiot, you pretending would land me in prison. No thanks! |
| 16:52.27 | redbearded_idiot | mheath[laptop]: cops? i know some people that would work for |
| 16:52.34 | harleypig | oh oh oh ... Can I talk the feds for you? :> |
| 16:52.47 | mheath[laptop] | redbearded_idiot, No. DoD. :) |
| 16:53.10 | macnewbold | d00d |
| 16:53.16 | harleypig | He's going to boot soon (now that's he's given up his rights I can poke fun at him :) |
| 16:53.25 | mheath[laptop] | Filling out a survey for a security clearance. |
| 16:53.47 | mheath[laptop] | Its really boring..... |
| 16:53.54 | sjansen | ~boot harleypig |
| 16:53.55 | ibot | /kick Jayce^ |
| 16:53.59 | graphyx | Umm... This is a democracy, right. Who really wants to give Mheath clearance. Please raise your hand. |
| 16:54.04 | mheath[laptop] | Though not as bad as my medical prescreening form....or the general form.. |
| 16:54.11 | graphyx | j/k. |
| 16:54.19 | mheath[laptop] | graphyx, hahaha |
| 16:54.29 | mheath[laptop] | I'll probably only need a Secret clearance anyway |
| 16:54.34 | harleypig | Holy crap! Wireless '"Rev B" will provide 73.5M bit/sec. download speeds and 23M bit/sec. upload speeds.' - http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9000760&source=rss_news50 |
| 16:54.51 | harleypig | I could play CS:Source anywhere, anytime! |
| 16:54.57 | mheath[laptop] | which means that 90% of this form is a waste, as they'll just do a thourogh check of my police record. |
| 16:55.05 | harleypig | Now we just need broadcast power. |
| 16:55.12 | mheath[laptop] | harleypig, I can play that with 802.11B :) |
| 16:55.24 | harleypig | mheath[laptop]: they're trying to weed out the idiots. |
| 16:55.31 | mheath[laptop] | This laptop has 802.11g with a speed boost technology, but the router is just 802.11b |
| 16:55.56 | harleypig | Yeah, I can play it at home wireless, though it's spotty at times. |
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| 16:56.08 | harleypig | But this wireless is from Nextel and Sprint. |
| 16:56.14 | mheath[laptop] | It cracks me up...back when I was talking ot the Navy recruiter... |
| 16:56.29 | mheath[laptop] | He was telling me how basic was easy, quick, and a character building experience. |
| 16:56.32 | harleypig | oh, they're the same now. |
| 16:56.41 | mheath[laptop] | My marine recruiter, though... |
| 16:56.57 | harleypig | easy quick and character building do not belong in the same sentence. |
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| 16:57.19 | mheath[laptop] | Has a poster on the wall that says "We'd promise you sleep deprivation, hunger, and muscles so sore you puke, but we don't want to sugar coat things." |
| 16:57.29 | graphyx | perhaps boot camp is quick compared to the iraq war which is currently, less than quick. |
| 16:57.40 | harleypig | Boot is forever. |
| 16:57.43 | mheath[laptop] | "We don't promise you a rose garden!" |
| 16:57.45 | graphyx | That's funny mheath[laptop] |
| 16:57.58 | harleypig | mheath[laptop]: just the thorns. |
| 16:58.27 | mheath[laptop] | harleypig, did you do the crucible? My teacher in highschool went through boot around the same time as you, and he said that he was among the first they were testing the crucible on. |
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| 17:00.37 | sjansen | Ladies and gentlemen, I apologize in advance for what is about to follow. |
| 17:01.31 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.48 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 17:01.50 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.01 | macnewbold | id10t error? |
| 17:02.34 | sjansen | macnewbold: No. I'm used to dealing with that. We all make mistakes occasionally. Especially when you're taking a class to learn something new. |
| 17:02.46 | mheath[laptop] | Like I've already said, the buttons on this laptop (the quick launch buttons) have lights in them....the Wireless-activation button light turns on when the wireless is on, and the mute button turns on when the sound is muted |
| 17:03.02 | mheath[laptop] | Someone raised the possibility that the lights were actually tied to the hardware |
| 17:03.23 | ^Migs^ | yet it all still falls to pieces when dropped from 100 feet on to solid concrete |
| 17:03.33 | mheath[laptop] | IE, the light on the wireless button is actually tied TO the wireless card, and the light on the mutebutton is actually tied to the sound card |
| 17:03.46 | sjansen | No, I'm tired of dealing with lazy bumm errors. |
| 17:03.51 | mheath[laptop] | Can anyone comment on other laptops, from experience? |
| 17:03.59 | mheath[laptop] | Is this actually the case? |
| 17:04.34 | Jayce^ | sjansen, please give me the answer to my question so that I don't have to actually learn the process involved but can just spew your answer this one time and have things work for me.. |
| 17:05.48 | harleypig | mheath[laptop]: yeah |
| 17:05.57 | harleypig | the crucible was ... fun |
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| 17:06.02 | harleypig | in a painful sort of way |
| 17:07.00 | harleypig | mheath[laptop]: except that I don't think what they've got now is what we had |
| 17:07.14 | mheath[laptop] | yeah, I'm sure not. |
| 17:07.23 | mheath[laptop] | They're constantly revising it |
| 17:07.27 | harleypig | I talked to my brother, who went through boot in the late 90s, and he describes something different. |
| 17:07.50 | Jayce^ | harleypig, wow, you had a brother go through 40 years after you did?! |
| 17:08.00 | mheath[laptop] | Hah! |
| 17:08.35 | harleypig | :P |
| 17:08.39 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.51 | Jayce^ | harleypig, how were those shores of tripoli? :-p |
| 17:09.00 | Jayce^ | mmm... barbary |
| 17:09.02 | phinux | sjansen: you're not a teacher. You're permanent tech support. |
| 17:09.11 | harleypig | tease me about my age and I'll beat you with my cane. |
| 17:10.00 | mheath[laptop] | From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of tripoli.......This is the story of harleypig's life. |
| 17:10.12 | mheath[laptop] | And yes, I'm certain I spelt Montezuma wrong. |
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| 17:10.26 | Jayce^ | yeah, the bad thing is montezuma keeps getting his revenge on harleypig .... it's a scary thing.. |
| 17:11.35 | mheath[laptop] | thanks. Nick completion would have been too awkard, hatchmt |
| 17:12.46 | hatchmt | mheath[laptop]: heh... I used to use mhatch a lot until I joined #utah. |
| 17:13.20 | mheath[laptop] | Ubuntu 6.06 Release Candidate - comming soon |
| 17:13.29 | mheath[laptop] | thats new TODAY on their testing page |
| 17:13.47 | mheath[laptop] | Considering that the actual release is supposed to be in about a week, I'm guessing its coming today |
| 17:23.32 | redbearded_idiot | oh good. i love ubuntu. |
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| 17:24.49 | mheath[laptop] | lmao |
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| 17:39.30 | mheath[laptop] | X-Men 3 tonight :) |
| 17:39.51 | Tene | tonight... or tomorrow night? |
| 17:39.59 | mheath[laptop] | Tonight. |
| 17:40.02 | mheath[laptop] | well, tomorrow morning. |
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| 17:55.13 | ^Migs^ | how much would a 3-bedroom house go for in a nice (i.e., not crappy) neighborhood in Provo? |
| 17:55.21 | ^Migs^ | or anywhere in the Provo area? |
| 17:55.43 | elg | well all you need is a little gasoline and a match to make a house go |
| 17:56.16 | ^Migs^ | no |
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| 17:58.52 | ^Migs^ | what are the areas I should avoid if I'm moving to Provo? |
| 17:59.07 | Jayce^ | near byu, unless you are a student |
| 17:59.13 | vontrapp | the stadium |
| 17:59.20 | hagna | the moat |
| 17:59.27 | Tene | Underground. |
| 17:59.34 | harleypig | ^Migs^: Provo |
| 17:59.39 | harleypig | Orem |
| 17:59.55 | harleypig | Parts of Lindon, PG |
| 17:59.57 | hagna | freshwomen |
| 17:59.59 | harleypig | Springville |
| 18:00.01 | vontrapp | 800 N and university ave |
| 18:00.22 | harleypig | well, most of Lindon |
| 18:01.47 | hagna | didn't linux used to have a timeout command that would sigkill after a certain time? |
| 18:01.59 | vontrapp | yes, can't recall |
| 18:02.11 | hagna | timeout |
| 18:02.16 | ^Migs^ | everything that was just said hasn't helped at all |
| 18:02.21 | ^Migs^ | so basically stay away from the university? |
| 18:02.29 | ^Migs^ | does Provo have a ghetto? |
| 18:03.00 | ^Migs^ | what would be wrong with being by the university? Usually living close to a college is desirable. Is there a lot of crime or something? |
| 18:03.06 | vontrapp | hagna: still does have it |
| 18:03.14 | levi_ | ^Migs^: Lots of traffic. |
| 18:03.23 | hagna | vontrapp: hmm not this gentoo |
| 18:03.29 | hagna | vontrapp: wonder where the pkg is |
| 18:03.37 | vontrapp | debian has it |
| 18:03.57 | harleypig | ^Migs^: Provo ghetto (equivalent) is 100 North and everything south and 200 West and everything east. |
| 18:04.14 | ^Migs^ | k |
| 18:04.17 | harleypig | ^Migs^: the streets are clogged. |
| 18:04.28 | levi_ | Hah, Vorlath is 100% sure that future programs won't be created via programming languages. |
| 18:04.30 | harleypig | ^Migs^: are you going to school? |
| 18:04.49 | ^Migs^ | no |
| 18:04.57 | hagna | where are you moving from |
| 18:04.58 | hagna | ? |
| 18:05.00 | ^Migs^ | Roy |
| 18:05.02 | vontrapp | levi_: so we'll build them out of legos? |
| 18:05.08 | vontrapp | that's pretty cool |
| 18:05.10 | hagna | does Roy have a ghetto? |
| 18:05.16 | ^Migs^ | not really, no |
| 18:05.20 | ^Migs^ | Ogden does |
| 18:05.30 | ^Migs^ | Roy's just nice all-around |
| 18:05.40 | harleypig | Everything north of 100 N and east of 500 W is crammed full of stoodents, up to the temple. |
| 18:06.00 | ^Migs^ | it has a main street, 1900 W, and some of the neighborhoods a block off of it could kind of be considered ghetto-ish, but after 2 blocks they instantly pick up and deghettoize |
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| 18:06.05 | vontrapp | ^Migs^: wait, do you know any tuckers? |
| 18:06.21 | ^Migs^ | any tuckers? do you mean truckers? |
| 18:06.29 | vontrapp | no, last name tucker |
| 18:06.34 | ^Migs^ | wtf? Is this one of those "OMG! YOU LIVE IN ____? DO YOU KNOW ____?!" |
| 18:07.00 | vontrapp | well, kinda, i can't remember if they're in roy ore one of the other close by places |
| 18:07.02 | ^Migs^ | Roy does have a population of over 10,000, you know. Why on earth would I know someone named Tucker. |
| 18:07.12 | harleypig | ^Migs^: if you have a decent car, or are willing/able to ride the bus, you'll be better off in the outlying towns, PG, AF, North Orem |
| 18:07.27 | vontrapp | i like pg and af |
| 18:07.39 | ^Migs^ | Pleasant Grove? |
| 18:07.43 | harleypig | I've really fallen in love with Spanish Fork. |
| 18:07.44 | vontrapp | yep |
| 18:07.52 | vontrapp | too windy |
| 18:07.57 | vontrapp | spanish fork, that is |
| 18:08.06 | vontrapp | darn canyon winds |
| 18:08.41 | elg | dude, vontrapp I don't even know any tuckers in roy |
| 18:08.57 | hagna | roy tucker |
| 18:09.02 | vontrapp | elg: legrand |
| 18:09.02 | elg | i don't know about living in a place named after a fork |
| 18:09.12 | elg | they're not in roy |
| 18:09.23 | elg | near roy maybe |
| 18:09.30 | levi_ | "100% of software design today is the same no matter what language. It is true that if you know one language, you pretty much know them all. Maybe not APL though." |
| 18:09.40 | levi_ | Vorlath makes me laugh. |
| 18:09.42 | ^Migs^ | what, you think Roy is one of them friendly little towns where ev'rybody knwos ev'rybody? |
| 18:09.51 | ^Migs^ | s/knwos/knows/ |
| 18:10.07 | elg | so anyone going back and forth from happy valley to the not-so-happy valley before monday? |
| 18:10.19 | ^Migs^ | Roy is considerably large. |
| 18:10.30 | vontrapp | elg: you want tickets? |
| 18:10.55 | vontrapp | ok so roy is large, it just seemed small to me, probably because i drove through a corner |
| 18:11.01 | elg | steve dibb is gonna sell me a hdd |
| 18:11.08 | elg | but he's in west jordan |
| 18:11.23 | ^Migs^ | where do you live, vontrapp? |
| 18:11.32 | vontrapp | provo, before that af |
| 18:12.10 | ^Migs^ | I'm not even sure what me knowing this legrand tucker or whoever would prove anyway. |
| 18:12.34 | vontrapp | that i'm psychic, but alas it failed |
| 18:12.41 | ^Migs^ | no it wouldn't |
| 18:12.50 | ^Migs^ | it would prove absolutely nothing. |
| 18:12.58 | elg | no, it would prove that you know him |
| 18:13.08 | ^Migs^ | except that we both happen to "know someone." Big deal. I know plenty of people that other people know. |
| 18:13.29 | ^Migs^ | it doesn't make me feel more intimately connected with you in any way |
| 18:13.39 | elg | that's not the point. it's all about blackmail |
| 18:13.45 | vontrapp | but then you'd have a connection to elg, and any connection to a current nm resident is worth something |
| 18:13.47 | elg | and pony express |
| 18:14.14 | elg | so here's a question for my friends in cheapdom |
| 18:14.38 | elg | local MAS-like store had a $20 enclosure, mostly no-name |
| 18:14.45 | elg | ("Super Slim") |
| 18:14.58 | elg | I can get one from newegg for the same price |
| 18:15.00 | vontrapp | usb mass storagE? |
| 18:15.11 | elg | after shipping |
| 18:15.14 | findlay | yeah, storagE |
| 18:15.25 | elg | yes, usb2 mass storage |
| 18:15.37 | vontrapp | newegg is cooler, unless that MAS-like place is cool |
| 18:15.46 | vontrapp | but then there's the wait |
| 18:15.49 | elg | the story is moderately cool |
| 18:15.53 | vontrapp | but you don't have the drive anyway |
| 18:15.57 | elg | I won't have a disk to put in it til monday anyway |
| 18:16.14 | vontrapp | are you gonna want to use it right away when you're out here? |
| 18:16.21 | vontrapp | cause that would be a reason to get it at the store |
| 18:16.39 | vontrapp | if not till you get back, then you can come home to a package like it's christmas |
| 18:16.57 | elg | heck yes I'm going to use it there |
| 18:17.03 | vontrapp | there you go |
| 18:17.31 | ^Migs^ | wow |
| 18:17.41 | ^Migs^ | I didn't realize how inexpensive Weber county is to live in |
| 18:17.44 | vontrapp | i wouldn't be too worried about an enclosure, the drive is the important part it seems, anyway |
| 18:18.14 | vontrapp | anyone like to dispute? i really don't know |
| 18:18.19 | elg | i'll just go off looks then. ;) |
| 18:19.49 | vontrapp | hmm, anyone have preferences for rails routes in nesting semantics? |
| 18:20.11 | vontrapp | e.g. a driver has a car has a pitstop |
| 18:20.56 | vontrapp | if i was boring i could go "/:driver[/:car[/:pitstop]]/:action" |
| 18:21.03 | vontrapp | but i like to go for readable urls |
| 18:23.17 | Supaplex | http://www.vontrapp.com/ÝO¶Ago||2|6ûAí³H{ØÕR?këai:àÁ¯Eö7:&å½í-«zìROàälÐØûò[ðaLÂ:¶OÇbº8sè6Uæ$ÅJv |
| 18:23.49 | nick125 | Supaplex: I think that is far from readable.. |
| 18:23.52 | findlay | why does gnome-terminal have to be so stupid about unicode? |
| 18:24.03 | Supaplex | that was the point nick125 :) |
| 18:24.29 | vontrapp | don't know, most things gtk are pretty good about it |
| 18:24.40 | vontrapp | even good about cambodian :) |
| 18:25.09 | hagna | vontrapp: who makes timeout is there a link? |
| 18:25.25 | ^Migs^ | which is a better place to relocate for tech jobs? SLC or Provo? |
| 18:25.36 | Tene | Why is pango a requirement? |
| 18:25.43 | findlay | Panguich? |
| 18:25.55 | vontrapp | Source: tct |
| 18:26.02 | hagna | vontrapp: thanks |
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| 18:26.58 | vontrapp | if Source is what i think it means |
| 18:27.32 | hagna | that's wild |
| 18:27.38 | hagna | part of a forensics tool kit |
| 18:28.36 | vontrapp | Tene: cambodian simply doesn't work without it |
| 18:29.23 | vontrapp | -lart hd re-image |
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| 18:52.12 | findlay | Eugene Loh died last week |
| 18:56.26 | graphyx | hey hagna |
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| 19:07.09 | sjansen | ^Migs^: Does Utah have ghetto anywhere? Only Salt Lake County comes close, and even then... |
| 19:07.51 | BL4 | sjansen, thats a random question...I know of a mining town that still mines in utah... |
| 19:08.00 | mheath[laptop] | sjansen, Ever been to downtown Ogden? |
| 19:08.03 | BL4 | weird little place it is... |
| 19:08.15 | redbearded_idiot | sjansen: ever been to "old" magna? |
| 19:08.15 | vontrapp | silverton? |
| 19:08.17 | sjansen | As far as tech jobs go, the best choice is half way between SLC and Provo. That way you can commute to Provo for your current job, and SLC for your next. ;-) |
| 19:08.22 | BL4 | no, Eureka |
| 19:08.31 | BL4 | some guy there keeps dynamite in his house. |
| 19:08.43 | vontrapp | fun |
| 19:08.45 | redbearded_idiot | magna is the meth capital of the country |
| 19:08.52 | redbearded_idiot | statistically speaking |
| 19:08.56 | mheath[laptop] | Downtown ogden is sad....... |
| 19:09.05 | BL4 | redbeared_idiot, and this explains a lot.... |
| 19:09.09 | mheath[laptop] | Its embarassing on behalf of our city planners and such |
| 19:09.16 | mheath[laptop] | Looking at pictures of that area, 40 years ago, compared to now. |
| 19:09.25 | redbearded_idiot | BL4: get meth. it pays. |
| 19:10.23 | levi_ | sjansen: Or you can work at Linux Networx and not have to go anywhere to get to work. |
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| 19:11.27 | sjansen | redbearded_idiot: I've driven around parts of magna. It was ugly, but nothing I'd call ghetto. |
| 19:11.43 | ^Migs^ | downtown ogden is being renovated |
| 19:11.47 | ^Migs^ | which is nice |
| 19:11.49 | mheath[laptop] | HAHA! |
| 19:11.56 | ^Migs^ | I think the idea is that in 20 years it will all be new |
| 19:11.56 | mheath[laptop] | ^Migs^, thats what they said when they ruined the place |
| 19:12.03 | redbearded_idiot | sjansen: half of magna is in pretty decent condition, but i'm always weary going just about anywhere west of cyprus high |
| 19:12.09 | ^Migs^ | I rather like the renovations they've done |
| 19:12.14 | mheath[laptop] | "We're going to revitalize our downtown! We're putting in this NEW MALL!" |
| 19:12.16 | findlay | redbearded_idiot: I thought Stockton was the meth capital |
| 19:12.18 | mheath[laptop] | Yeah, that was sucessful |
| 19:12.22 | sjansen | heh, maybe I was protected by my innocence |
| 19:12.30 | ^Migs^ | what mall? |
| 19:12.31 | ^Migs^ | no |
| 19:12.34 | sjansen | Or maybe Utah just isn't that dangerous considered to many other places. |
| 19:12.37 | ^Migs^ | I mean the other pockets in downtown Ogden |
| 19:12.51 | ^Migs^ | no, compared to most places, Utah is paradise |
| 19:12.55 | redbearded_idiot | findlay: about 5 years ago, i read an article talking about the 900 something meth busts in the previous 10 years in magna |
| 19:13.08 | mheath[laptop] | ^Migs^, The Ogden Mall (the one they just tore down) was said to be a great project to revitalize the downtown. |
| 19:13.10 | ^Migs^ | I would have a hard time leaving Utah because of that alone |
| 19:13.16 | mheath[laptop] | It destroyed what little local businesses were left there. |
| 19:13.20 | ^Migs^ | oh, that was years and years ago |
| 19:13.22 | mheath[laptop] | No. |
| 19:13.27 | ^Migs^ | yes |
| 19:13.32 | findlay | no |
| 19:13.33 | findlay | yes |
| 19:13.36 | ^Migs^ | affirmative |
| 19:13.37 | redbearded_idiot | new hampshire is actually pretty mild, even compared to utah |
| 19:13.38 | mheath[laptop] | That was less than 30 years ago, ^Migs^. |
| 19:13.41 | mheath[laptop] | It failed right off, too |
| 19:13.48 | ^Migs^ | no it didn't |
| 19:13.51 | ^Migs^ | I loved the Ogden Mall |
| 19:14.11 | ^Migs^ | the new renovations have been beautifying the area |
| 19:14.19 | ^Migs^ | transforming all the ghetto trash places into new buildings and stuff |
| 19:15.20 | mheath[laptop] | Yeah. Resurfacing the old trolley tracks on a small piece of street and giving a few people some government money to rennovate their houses and make them look classic victorian again |
| 19:16.11 | ^Migs^ | they also built some new townhouses, improved the area around the Catholic school, and probably a bunch of other stuff I haven't even seen |
| 19:16.26 | mheath[laptop] | That will fix what used to be an amazing downtown economy, with whole neighborhoods that were beautiful that are now depressed, poor, and old! |
| 19:16.37 | ^Migs^ | indeed it will, mheath |
| 19:17.29 | mheath[laptop] | Hahaha. |
| 19:18.31 | mheath[laptop] | ^Migs^, Mark my words, they've been trying to 'save' the downtown for the past 30 years |
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| 19:18.32 | levi_ | I'm sure mheath has a much better plan for revitalizing Ogden. |
| 19:18.59 | mheath[laptop] | ant it was their initial attempts to 'help' the downtown that killed itt. |
| 19:19.38 | ^Migs^ | what are your plans, mheath? |
| 19:19.40 | sjansen | It wouldn't be so bad if were 10 different people asing me. But no, it was the same person over the course of 4 days. |
| 19:20.10 | ^Migs^ | what we should do is just demolish everyone's homes in downtown Ogden and rebuild from scratch |
| 19:20.11 | mheath[laptop] | levi_, indeed. I'd start with promoting small, locally owned businesses through tax breaks and government funding. They're what made the downtown economy great. Rather than allowing corporations to build a gym, and a millionaire for salt lake city to build a movie theatre. |
| 19:20.48 | ^Migs^ | I rather like the gym and movie theater |
| 19:21.04 | mheath[laptop] | I'd stop wasting money on projects that revitalize small areas of street, making it pretty for tourists, and commit those resources to fixing the real problems. |
| 19:21.08 | levi_ | I like small, locally owned businesses, but Utahns in general don't seem to care much for them. |
| 19:21.24 | ^Migs^ | meh |
| 19:21.29 | ^Migs^ | I'll occasionally go to a small, locally owned business |
| 19:21.34 | ^Migs^ | sometimes they have good stuff |
| 19:21.37 | ^Migs^ | most of the time they're just crap |
| 19:21.39 | levi_ | Instead preferring megaplexes, chain restaurants, and big gyms. |
| 19:21.59 | ^Migs^ | we just need a bunch of Wal-Marts around |
| 19:22.04 | ^Migs^ | that would improve the economy, because then everybody can have a Wal-Mart job |
| 19:22.04 | levi_ | Interesting story from a co-worker. |
| 19:22.23 | levi_ | One of his neighbors is the guy who owns Vector, the gun-makers. |
| 19:22.40 | mheath[laptop] | Downtown Ogden used to me known for a lot of really nice, locally owned shops. The clothing stores were known for being extremely stylish and cutting edge in fashion, prompting a lot of shoppers to even come from SLC. |
| 19:22.57 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.27 | levi_ | The co-worker recently took a trip to Italy. In a conversation with the Vector guy before the Italy trip, Vector guy says 'You'll love Italy! It's great, except for one thing... the food. You'd think it'd be good like the Olive Garden, but it's not.' |
| 19:23.48 | vontrapp | levi_: lol |
| 19:23.50 | ^Migs^ | I imagine I wouldn't like REAL Italian food either |
| 19:24.05 | vontrapp | -lart olive garden |
| 19:24.11 | nick125 | lol |
| 19:24.39 | sjansen | *sigh* It's not that he's a bad user, just the absolute worst learner I've ever met. |
| 19:24.45 | sjansen | s/user/person/ |
| 19:24.49 | levi_ | ^Migs^: Man, you keep lowering my opinion of your taste in stuff. :) |
| 19:25.14 | redbearded_idiot | you know, i was watching a show on food network last night (big surprise) and they were talking about a market in boston that's almost entirely local shops... almost no chains |
| 19:25.25 | mheath[laptop] | My dad told me of a tiny little, real italian restraunt a business partner took him to in Boston..... |
| 19:25.33 | vontrapp | redbearded_idiot: the rachel show? |
| 19:25.38 | vontrapp | called it the triangle? |
| 19:25.40 | redbearded_idiot | vontrapp: unwrapped |
| 19:25.40 | mheath[laptop] | He was telling me about it when we were at Olive Garden, talking about how much better it was |
| 19:26.00 | mheath[laptop] | The meals could take hours. Just slow paced, enjoying the food, relaxing. |
| 19:26.22 | redbearded_idiot | boston has an area they call "the north end" that's primarily italian. the food there is supposed to be awesome, in some cases better than italy itself |
| 19:26.25 | ^Migs^ | there's a great Italian restaurant called La Ferrovia in Ogden |
| 19:26.29 | ^Migs^ | owned by an Italian family |
| 19:26.42 | ^Migs^ | by special request, you can even get Italian ingredients in your food |
| 19:26.45 | mheath[laptop] | He said the food was delcious, and nothing like what they have at places like Olive Garden |
| 19:26.46 | vontrapp | mheath[laptop]: i love that type of thing, i like to go to el azteca here and just hang out with my fiance for an hour or two |
| 19:26.59 | vontrapp | that's when i feel rich |
| 19:27.04 | findlay | why do people have to be so stupid? |
| 19:27.16 | mheath[laptop] | Olive Garden disappointed me |
| 19:27.20 | redbearded_idiot | there's a place in sugarhouse called michelangelo's, where they tell you everything in italian and then translate it in english |
| 19:27.28 | mheath[laptop] | I got a Chicken Parmesean dish... |
| 19:27.41 | mheath[laptop] | It was virtually identical to the thing we have at Applebee's, and the same price |
| 19:27.58 | levi_ | findlay: Because if everyone was smart, there would be no one to compare themselves against so they'd know it. |
| 19:27.58 | vontrapp | they all make it from that jar stuff |
| 19:28.15 | mheath[laptop] | The difference? The one at Olive Garden was burnt (They tried to cover it up with more marinara and parmesean), and the portions were about half the size (despite being the same price) |
| 19:28.35 | mheath[laptop] | Our marinara is fresh made at applebees, and the parmesean is fresh grated |
| 19:28.43 | mheath[laptop] | It really surprised me how much of our stuff is fresh made |
| 19:29.01 | vontrapp | i really enjoyed a salad at applebees once |
| 19:29.09 | vontrapp | some chicken chipotle thing |
| 19:29.22 | redbearded_idiot | applebees has moved to my blacklist |
| 19:29.31 | mheath[laptop] | We have a Pecan Crusted Chicken salad right now. I love it |
| 19:29.32 | vontrapp | i have a jar of it and i spice just about everything with it |
| 19:29.35 | mheath[laptop] | redbearded_idiot, why? |
| 19:29.37 | Jayce^ | I don't think I've ever enjoyed a meal there |
| 19:29.55 | bonez39 | Jayce^, never had the riblets? |
| 19:29.58 | redbearded_idiot | i used to love applebees. but i think the menu itself has degraded. |
| 19:29.59 | bonez39 | they are always good..... |
| 19:30.20 | mheath[laptop] | redbearded_idiot, why? Our menu constantly shifts around. |
| 19:30.27 | mheath[laptop] | About half of it changed, less than a month ago. |
| 19:30.54 | redbearded_idiot | mheath[laptop]: do you work there? |
| 19:31.00 | mheath[laptop] | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.04 | mheath[laptop] | redbearded_idiot: yes |
| 19:31.16 | vontrapp | yes you redbearded_idiot |
| 19:31.19 | redbearded_idiot | mheath[laptop]: i was there just over the weekend, actually. |
| 19:31.25 | redbearded_idiot | ~lart vontrapp |
| 19:31.31 | mheath[laptop] | redbearded_idiot, what didn't you like about our menu? |
| 19:31.37 | vontrapp | *ughhggurgle* |
| 19:31.49 | mheath[laptop] | Don't tell me "fried pickles are grose". I don't want to hear that. |
| 19:32.07 | vontrapp | eww, fried pickles are gross |
| 19:32.15 | levi_ | All pickles are gross. |
| 19:32.18 | vontrapp | ~blacklist applebees |
| 19:32.26 | levi_ | Frying them might be an improvement, but still gross. |
| 19:32.28 | redbearded_idiot | redbearded_idiot: the menu was okay... i just remember seeing a lot more on there that i really liked. but, like most places, i was disappointed to see the proliferation of ranch dressing |
| 19:32.57 | bonez39 | redbearded_idiot, what's up with ranch dressing? |
| 19:33.05 | Jayce^ | mmmm. ranch |
| 19:33.19 | bonez39 | I wish I could find a good recipe to make good ranch at home....without having to buy that hidden valley mix |
| 19:33.31 | mheath[laptop] | O.o We have ranch dressing available for salads, but almost nothing on our menu comes with ranch dressing unless you request it. |
| 19:33.34 | redbearded_idiot | oh man. it's not that i hate ranch. it's that so much nowadays seems to revolve around it. there are other dressings in the world! |
| 19:33.46 | mheath[laptop] | All of our hot wings come with a really good bleu cheese, for example. |
| 19:33.57 | mheath[laptop] | Infact, the only thing on our menu that comes with ranch normally is the fried pickles. |
| 19:34.12 | Jayce^ | I've never left an applebee's thinking "wow, I'm glad I ate there" |
| 19:34.21 | mheath[laptop] | vontrapp, we actually don't have that salad anymore :( |
| 19:34.25 | vontrapp | :( |
| 19:34.31 | redbearded_idiot | mheath[laptop]: i did appreciate that my wings came with bleu cheese, but it was a little mild for me. |
| 19:34.35 | mheath[laptop] | vontrapp, if you tell your server, they can make something similar |
| 19:34.57 | mheath[laptop] | redbearded_idiot, make sure you get the hot wings, not the mild spicy wings |
| 19:35.13 | vontrapp | good eats had cheeses last night |
| 19:35.24 | mheath[laptop] | Same sauce, but the mild ones are a dilluted form. They sometimes dillute it differently, making the mild wings range from very mild to very hot.. |
| 19:35.26 | vontrapp | mmm, cheese |
| 19:35.28 | redbearded_idiot | mheath[laptop]: the wings were fine, it was the bleu cheese dressing that was too mild |
| 19:35.57 | mheath[laptop] | redbearded_idiot, O.o I find it quite yummy, but OK. |
| 19:36.49 | mheath[laptop] | vontrapp, I think you were refering to the Aztec Chicken Salad |
| 19:36.56 | redbearded_idiot | well, the problem isn't with applebees per se, it's with the people who think bleu cheese is too harsh. most chains try to play to the middle of the road, and i suspect that applebees is no different. personally, i like a little more bite, but not too much |
| 19:36.57 | vontrapp | mheath[laptop]: yep, that was it |
| 19:37.07 | mheath[laptop] | vontrapp, You could try the Santa Fe salad, though. |
| 19:37.31 | mheath[laptop] | Chicken has a mild amount of cajun seasoning added, served on lettuce with a zesty, spicy ranch dressing..... |
| 19:37.33 | redbearded_idiot | mheath[laptop]: looking at the menu now, and i'm remembering something else i was disappointed with |
| 19:37.41 | mheath[laptop] | Served with sour cream and guacamole |
| 19:37.46 | mheath[laptop] | redbearded_idiot, whats that? |
| 19:38.24 | redbearded_idiot | whole chicken breast. i'm tired of it. it's just so boring. there's so much more that can be done with chicken breast. |
| 19:38.42 | mheath[laptop] | redbearded_idiot, We have 4 different varities of chicken and marinades. |
| 19:38.53 | vontrapp | chicken breast is our staple diet right now |
| 19:39.20 | vontrapp | fajitas, chinese chicken, swiss chicken (my favorite), stir fry... |
| 19:39.30 | redbearded_idiot | mheath[laptop]: what do you have? |
| 19:40.00 | mheath[laptop] | redbearded_idiot, White chicken, teriyaki chicken, and theres two others... I really can't remember what they are |
| 19:40.12 | redbearded_idiot | do they use whole chicken breast? |
| 19:40.27 | mheath[laptop] | redbearded_idiot, Yes, for a couple of dishes. |
| 19:40.36 | redbearded_idiot | looks like honey grilled and lime are the other two |
| 19:41.01 | mheath[laptop] | No. Honey glaze is added to the honey grilled |
| 19:41.14 | redbearded_idiot | mheath[laptop]: oops, sorry. you are correct. |
| 19:41.16 | mheath[laptop] | Fiesta Lime Chicken IS the other kind, but its not Lime chicken. |
| 19:41.36 | mheath[laptop] | We add Lime to that chicken |
| 19:42.26 | redbearded_idiot | i guess my problem isn't with applebees in particular, it's with boring menu items. they're trying to play to everyone, just like chiles, tgi fridays, and everyone else. |
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| 19:42.56 | mheath[laptop] | Well, of course. We're a large restraunt chain. There's thousands of Applebee's worldwide. |
| 19:42.57 | vontrapp | you can't really blame them, everyone is who eats there |
| 19:43.11 | mheath[laptop] | We make what sells. What the crowd wants. |
| 19:43.16 | mheath[laptop] | and while yes, that limits our menu... |
| 19:43.19 | tristanbob | Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Release Candidate) is out! |
| 19:43.22 | tristanbob | http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ |
| 19:43.23 | mheath[laptop] | We still have some stuff that is quite yummy |
| 19:43.24 | ^Migs^ | I'm going home tonight and making CHICKEN |
| 19:43.34 | mheath[laptop] | tristanbob: YOUR FREAKIN KIDDING ME |
| 19:43.40 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I'm not htat impressed with applebee's either |
| 19:43.41 | ^Migs^ | *that |
| 19:43.47 | ^Migs^ | chile's is better, although not by much |
| 19:43.49 | mheath[laptop] | I spend three hours downloading flight 7 |
| 19:43.55 | ^Migs^ | you know what's a great place? Famous Dave's. |
| 19:43.57 | mheath[laptop] | and they release the freaking RC whne I'm in the middle of downloading it?! |
| 19:43.58 | ^Migs^ | MMMMMMM |
| 19:44.04 | tristanbob | mheath[laptop]: with updates, you will be getting hte same thing :) |
| 19:44.11 | mheath[laptop] | ^Migs^, the food is almost identical to ours, its owned by the same place. |
| 19:44.19 | tristanbob | but you have to download 300 MB of updates for flight 7 |
| 19:44.36 | ^Migs^ | who's "ours"? |
| 19:44.42 | tristanbob | so I would cancel flight 7 and bittorrent the RC |
| 19:44.45 | ^Migs^ | what's owned by the same place? |
| 19:44.53 | redbearded_idiot | mheath[laptop]: that's the point i'm trying to make. applebees has a huge crowd to cater to, and they're playing it safe. |
| 19:45.08 | mheath[laptop] | ^Migs^, Applebees and Famous Dave's. William Tell, Inc. Owns both places. |
| 19:45.14 | mheath[laptop] | all the signature sauces are going to be the same. |
| 19:45.32 | ^Migs^ | oh, I had no idea |
| 19:46.40 | ^Migs^ | now I'm STARVING |
| 19:47.21 | vontrapp | haven't even used those knives yet... |
| 19:48.15 | redbearded_idiot | i went to pf changs a while back, expecting to be extremely disappointed. i ended up picking a new way to cut chicken that i really like. |
| 19:48.53 | vontrapp | what's that? |
| 19:49.32 | mheath[laptop] | A CIVIL AUTHORITY HAS ISSUED A CHILD ABDUCTION EMERGENCY FOR THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES/AREAS: SALT LAKE UT, AND ALL UTAH AT 1;47 PM ON MAY 25, 2006 EFFECTIVE UNTIL 2:02 PM |
| 19:49.47 | redbearded_idiot | one one of their chicken dishes, they cut these little discs of chicken, maybe twice as big around as a quarter |
| 19:50.09 | ^Migs^ | why only until 2:02pm? |
| 19:50.46 | levi_ | That's when the child abductors get off from abduction and head home for the night. |
| 19:50.50 | mheath[laptop] | I don't know. And the emrgency broadcast text seems stuck on page 1. All I know is a child got abducted, I don't know any details |
| 19:51.14 | redbearded_idiot | the kid's name is cole chacon |
| 19:51.37 | redbearded_idiot | looks like his mom is believed to have kidnapped him |
| 19:51.49 | vontrapp | abductors have hours? |
| 19:51.57 | mheath[laptop] | I think TBS is broken |
| 19:52.03 | mheath[laptop] | all the other channels have gone back to normal |
| 19:52.03 | redbearded_idiot | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=279411 |
| 19:52.04 | brac | [ksl.com - Utah's Online Source for Local News & Information Police Look for 8-Year-Old on National Missing Children's Day] |
| 19:52.07 | mheath[laptop] | TBS is stuck on this |
| 19:52.24 | ^Migs^ | ? |
| 19:52.32 | ^Migs^ | so they're looking for the kid for 15 minutes then giving up? |
| 19:52.48 | mheath[laptop] | 10 minutes now! |
| 19:53.18 | ^Migs^ | I always found those things in the mail "Have you seen this child?" intrusive. I've always wanted to just collect a whole bunch of them, then send them back with an angry notice to stop harassing me with junk mail. |
| 19:53.42 | mheath[laptop] | ^Migs^, I'd agree, except for the statistics |
| 19:53.53 | mheath[laptop] | those cards have actually led to the safe return of a couple hundred kids |
| 19:54.29 | ^Migs^ | and they send out how many? a couple million? |
| 19:54.52 | levi_ | vontrapp: I think it's in their union contract. |
| 19:54.54 | mheath[laptop] | Does it matter? It saves the lives of children. |
| 19:55.09 | ^Migs^ | they weren't living? |
| 19:55.37 | ^Migs^ | I'm just kidding. :) |
| 19:55.38 | vontrapp | weren't living? |
| 19:55.52 | vontrapp | ~troll ^Migs^ |
| 19:55.54 | ibot | ACTION hereby declares ^Migs^ a troll |
| 19:55.56 | ^Migs^ | feel free to ignore my wacky antics |
| 19:56.30 | ^Migs^ | no I wasn't trolling |
| 19:56.31 | ^Migs^ | hmmm |
| 19:56.35 | ^Migs^ | I guess technically I was. |
| 20:01.44 | mheath[laptop] | bbiab, installing Ubuntu |
| 20:06.04 | Tene | So, anyone know how I can insert a newline in a substitution in vim? |
| 20:06.37 | graphyx | \n |
| 20:10.44 | Tene | inserts a "^@" |
| 20:12.58 | Supaplex | that bugs me to :P |
| 20:13.00 | levi_ | redbearded_idiot: That was a very sad strawberry fudge story. |
| 20:13.20 | levi_ | I've only made condensed milk fudge. My fudge-fu is weak. |
| 20:13.31 | vontrapp | freakin... /me misstyped locahost:3001 and came to some site stupid italian site or something |
| 20:14.27 | redbearded_idiot | levi_: now you know why i'm an idiot |
| 20:15.07 | redbearded_idiot | levi_: hey, you said you work near that david james guy, didn't you? |
| 20:15.07 | vontrapp | Tene: try <CR> |
| 20:15.15 | levi_ | redbearded_idiot: Yup. |
| 20:15.28 | Tene | inserts a literal "<CR>" |
| 20:15.31 | levi_ | He sits in the next cube row over. |
| 20:15.50 | redbearded_idiot | levi_: ask him if he knows of any old ward cookbooks floating around |
| 20:15.59 | levi_ | Tene: Try hitting ctrl-V, then hit enter |
| 20:16.15 | Tene | Yay, that worked. |
| 20:16.16 | levi_ | redbearded_idiot: How come? |
| 20:16.16 | Tene | Thanks. |
| 20:16.31 | levi_ | Man, what's the world come to when an emacs guy has to give out vim tips? |
| 20:16.46 | levi_ | You vim people suck at helping! ;) |
| 20:17.19 | redbearded_idiot | levi_: i have a fascination with ward cookbooks. and he's bishop, you'd think he's know if there are any. |
| 20:17.41 | levi_ | redbearded_idiot: OK, I'll ask him next time I see him. |
| 20:17.48 | redbearded_idiot | levi_: thanks man |
| 20:18.40 | vontrapp | Tene: press ctr-m instead of typing \n |
| 20:19.07 | Tene | 'kay, thanks |
| 20:19.14 | vontrapp | Tene: i meant what levi said |
| 20:19.28 | vontrapp | it comes out to CTR-M in green |
| 20:19.32 | Tene | nodnod |
| 20:20.07 | Tene | can I uppercase something in a replacement in vim? |
| 20:20.22 | vontrapp | how do you mean? |
| 20:21.12 | Tene | \u and \U, actually. |
| 20:21.20 | Tene | I didn't try it before asking, because I'm a lazy leech. |
| 20:37.11 | findlay | :s/\(.*\)/\U\1/g |
| 20:47.11 | Tene | nodnod |
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| 21:05.03 | graphyx | I know you guys are smart and you all hate spam. |
| 21:05.16 | graphyx | Join the group and comtribute to the new blue frog group. |
| 21:05.29 | graphyx | http://groups.google.com/group/okopipi-dev/ |
| 21:06.46 | mrpull- | didn't bluefrog spam the spammers? |
| 21:10.29 | graphyx | no. |
| 21:10.42 | graphyx | They simply sent one opt-out message for each 1 spam received. |
| 21:10.57 | graphyx | It was a method of distrubing the opt out script and automating the opt-out message. |
| 21:11.12 | graphyx | so when you get a spam it would automatically send out an opt out to the site. |
| 21:11.33 | graphyx | That by the rules of canspam is legal to do. |
| 21:11.54 | graphyx | Since they only got back a small farction of the number of spam that they sent out in opt-outs, who are they to complain? |
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| 21:20.18 | lars-ut | ~dict infarction |
| 21:20.34 | lars-ut | ~dict farction |
| 21:21.05 | lars-ut | ~spell farction |
| 21:21.31 | lars-ut | ~SIGHUP |
| 21:21.33 | ibot | hickup! hickup! |
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| 21:26.05 | sjansen | heh |
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| 22:39.50 | levi_ | Sweet. |
| 22:44.18 | findlay | everybody's going away |
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| 22:54.01 | Tene | going away... or coming back? |
| 22:55.08 | lars-ut | Tene: depends on where you perceive the matrix to be |
| 23:00.06 | lars-ut | ~emulate simon |
| 23:00.08 | ibot | Some guys are chasing after Cocofang! |
| 23:00.28 | lars-ut | ~emulate Cocofang |
| 23:00.40 | lars-ut | ~Cocofang |
| 23:00.41 | ibot | i heard cocofang is an actual vampire, just as Frankenchokey is an actual franken... thing! |
| 23:06.29 | lars-ut | Savage Time. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Michael_Savage_neologisms) |
| 23:09.25 | lars-ut | looks like wikipedia might have just deleted that link |
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