| 00:01.59 | nick125 | Supaplex: nice.. |
| 00:03.06 | Supaplex | quite :). it's fun to see a coworker squirm when he types emacs and gets vim instead :) |
| 00:03.17 | Supaplex | (in my shell) |
| 00:03.24 | nick125 | LOL |
| 00:03.55 | Supaplex | oh, and more=view and less=view |
| 00:04.16 | nick125 | lol |
| 00:04.23 | lars-ut | :) |
| 00:04.39 | nick125 | when it gets to the point when you sing along, its bad.. |
| 00:05.16 | lars-ut | I'm tapping my foot & nodding my head already |
| 00:05.24 | nick125 | I could see it now |
| 00:05.30 | lars-ut | lol |
| 00:05.30 | nick125 | someone walks in your office |
| 00:05.43 | lars-ut | nope - nobody left on this floor |
| 00:06.08 | lars-ut | well - there are still folks in the ground floor though |
| 00:06.13 | nick125 | lol |
| 00:06.24 | lars-ut | hope they enjoy the speakers |
| 00:06.27 | nick125 | hahah |
| 00:06.52 | nick125 | that would be funny..ssh into a box on a ground floor and start playing it there randomly |
| 00:07.04 | nick125 | ssh into all the boxes and play it at the same time |
| 00:07.20 | lars-ut | I like it. |
| 00:07.56 | nick125 | lol |
| 00:08.32 | lars-ut | this is good music for account maintenance |
| 00:09.03 | lars-ut | adduser... "look... if you had.. one shot..." |
| 00:09.15 | nick125 | haha |
| 00:13.36 | lars-ut | <Casey Casem>next up, like a bullet, "They Came In" by Butthole Surfers off The Mission Impossible 2 Soundtrack</Casey Casem> |
| 00:23.03 | lars-ut | Next up, Cake's "Comfort Eagle" |
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| 00:24.38 | xbmodder_lappy | I have no idea where my stylus went |
| 00:26.13 | nick125 | where have you been |
| 00:26.23 | nick125 | first, you call me 9am in the morning, then, you disappear.. |
| 00:26.29 | nick125 | I hate cogent |
| 00:26.32 | nick125 | I wish they would burn |
| 00:26.53 | xbmodder_lappy | why |
| 00:27.08 | nick125 | I hate VR for false advertising saying they have these great routes, but, in all reality, they are cogent |
| 00:27.40 | nick125 | cogent is pure trash transit.. |
| 00:27.46 | nick125 | theres a reason its cheap |
| 00:27.47 | nick125 | it sucks |
| 00:28.01 | xbmodder_lappy | lemme see the route |
| 00:28.35 | nick125 | have you seen any routes going over any other transit provider from our server? |
| 00:29.17 | xbmodder_lappy | ALTER |
| 00:29.36 | nick125 | no, those go though cogent then alter |
| 00:29.39 | nick125 | wait.. |
| 00:29.47 | nick125 | alter? |
| 00:29.54 | xbmodder_lappy | .net |
| 00:30.05 | nick125 | you mean abovenet? |
| 00:30.38 | lars-ut | "and now... 'Velouria' by The Pixies" |
| 00:30.45 | xbmodder_lappy | I mean verizon.. |
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| 01:09.40 | *** topic/#utah is The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See openclue.org/ut, sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com, utaug.org || X-Men 3 midnight showing cancelled || InterLUG BBQ Sat June 17 http://uvlug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bbq2006 |
| 01:09.40 | *** mode/#utah [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 01:10.06 | Lone_Wanderer | Good to have you back ibot |
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| 01:10.22 | lars-ut | ibot, you're useless |
| 01:10.24 | ibot | ACTION starts crying and hides from lars-ut in the darkest corner of the room. :( |
| 01:10.33 | Lone_Wanderer | ibot, it's good to have you back |
| 01:10.54 | Lone_Wanderer | It's ignoring me :( |
| 01:10.55 | lars-ut | ibot, smile! |
| 01:10.56 | ibot | =) |
| 01:11.17 | lars-ut | ~lart ibot |
| 01:11.30 | lars-ut | ~segafult |
| 01:11.34 | lars-ut | ~segfault |
| 01:11.36 | ibot | well, segfault is Core dumped or see Netscape, or ask me about sig11, or the program tried to access memory that it didn't own |
| 01:11.52 | lars-ut | ~SIGHUP |
| 01:11.53 | ibot | hickup! hickup! |
| 01:11.59 | Lone_Wanderer | I put one of those on another channel I frequent but it used up too much bandwidth (for the server that was running it) so I had to take it down. |
| 01:12.04 | Lone_Wanderer | ~Lone_Wanderer |
| 01:12.05 | ibot | it has been said that lone_wanderer is Dan Crookston |
| 01:12.14 | Lone_Wanderer | Makes me wonder who put that in. |
| 01:12.23 | lars-ut | ~nick125 |
| 01:12.24 | ibot | from memory, nick125 is lame |
| 01:12.36 | lars-ut | ~xbmodder_lappy |
| 01:13.13 | Lone_Wanderer | ibot, xbmodder_lappy is a guy who loves games but just can't leave his console alone. |
| 01:13.14 | ibot | okay, Lone_Wanderer |
| 01:13.23 | lars-ut | ~listauth Lone_Wanderer |
| 01:13.24 | ibot | factoid author list by 'Lone_Wanderer' returned no results. |
| 01:13.33 | Lone_Wanderer | They're sneaky! |
| 01:13.43 | lars-ut | :) |
| 01:14.19 | Lone_Wanderer | ibot, Lone_Wanderer is also on the road again, all alone. |
| 01:14.20 | ibot | Lone_Wanderer: okay |
| 01:14.27 | Lone_Wanderer | ~Lone_Wanderer |
| 01:14.28 | ibot | rumour has it, lone_wanderer is Dan Crookston, or on the road again, all alone. |
| 01:14.54 | Lone_Wanderer | Cloh-see nuff. |
| 01:15.11 | lars-ut | ibot, no, Lone_Wanderer is on the road again, all alone |
| 01:15.13 | ibot | lars-ut: okay |
| 01:15.23 | lars-ut | ~Lone_Wanderer |
| 01:15.24 | ibot | i heard lone_wanderer is on the road again, all alone |
| 01:16.06 | lars-ut | Lone_Wanderer: lock it |
| 01:16.11 | Lone_Wanderer | How? |
| 01:16.23 | lars-ut | lock Lone_Wanderer |
| 01:16.28 | lars-ut | precede with ~ |
| 01:16.33 | Lone_Wanderer | ~lock Lone_Wanderer |
| 01:16.33 | ibot | locking factoid lone_wanderer, Lone_Wanderer |
| 01:16.45 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 01:16.46 | lars-ut | ibot, no, Lone_Wanderer is blah |
| 01:16.48 | ibot | cannot alter locked factoids, lars-ut |
| 01:16.53 | Lone_Wanderer | :) |
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| 01:17.40 | lars-ut | Lone_Wanderer: unlock works too |
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| 01:17.51 | lars-ut | but the locker has to do it |
| 01:18.03 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 01:20.31 | lars-ut | ~emulate gozer |
| 01:20.32 | ibot | "During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants they chose a new form for him--that of a giant Sloar. Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you." |
| 01:20.54 | lars-ut | ~keymaster |
| 01:21.01 | lars-ut | ~gozer |
| 01:21.03 | ibot | it has been said that gozer is The Destructor. The Traveler, or a Gozerian, or a deity that got ghostbusted in 1984 |
| 01:23.33 | xbmodder_lappy | ~xbmodder |
| 01:23.34 | ibot | well, xbmodder is a moose. already something else... |
| 01:23.58 | xbmodder_lappy | ibot, xbmodder_lappy is a guy |
| 01:24.00 | ibot | ...but xbmodder_lappy is already something else... |
| 01:24.04 | xbmodder_lappy | ibot, no xbmodder_lappy is a guy |
| 01:24.05 | ibot | okay, xbmodder_lappy |
| 01:24.12 | xbmodder_lappy | ~xbmodder_lappy |
| 01:24.13 | ibot | i guess xbmodder_lappy is a guy |
| 01:27.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Someone should make John Dies At The End into a movie. |
| 01:29.11 | lars-ut | ~foo |
| 01:29.12 | ibot | bar |
| 01:29.16 | lars-ut | ~bar |
| 01:29.18 | ibot | i guess bar is baz or a friend of foo |
| 01:31.00 | Lone_Wanderer | Ohhh, it's in print! |
| 01:31.08 | Lone_Wanderer | http://www.cafepress.com/johndies.51158200 |
| 01:34.52 | lars-ut | gah! |
| 01:35.08 | lars-ut | NVU sucks compared to DreamWeaver for editing tables |
| 01:35.34 | lars-ut | that's what I get for trying to eat my own dogfood |
| 01:36.02 | lars-ut | back to the pay product... |
| 01:36.14 | lars-ut | night all |
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| 02:28.31 | xbmodder_lappy | Does anyone need a code-rat which they can grant intern status (non-paid)? |
| 02:34.20 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: can you call me back someone before the turn of the century? |
| 02:42.15 | jsmith | xbmodder_lappy: I might be able to hook you up... grab me later this week... |
| 02:46.09 | nick125 | if xbmodder_lappy responds to you but not me I'm going to hit him |
| 02:48.24 | tensai | Lone_Wanderer: the opposite of fg would be bg, for background. resumes the suspended process in the background, which is obviously not very useful for vi |
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| 03:10.35 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_lappy: if you don't show up here in the next 30 seconds, I'm gonna force you to watch power rangers |
| 03:14.22 | nick125_lappy | that would be a cool lart..lol |
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| 03:35.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, that was fun |
| 03:36.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I attend Bingham High School atm, 22nd west and 104th south in south jordan |
| 03:36.26 | ScytheBlade1 | We just finished our pops concert, so all 100 of us go to the artic circle just past 13th west and 104th |
| 03:36.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Then stand on the overpass for 30 minutes, until two cops show up |
| 03:36.44 | ScytheBlade1 | and say "leave" |
| 03:37.19 | ScytheBlade1 | It was just fun watching two cops try to speak to 100 high school seniors at once |
| 03:37.26 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 03:37.36 | nick125_lappy | hahah..I don't like customers some days.. |
| 03:37.36 | nick125_lappy | 15:33 <kevin_> Did you guys want to use this one? http://fakedomain.name/atarack.html |
| 03:37.40 | nick125_lappy | 15:33 <kevin_> It's not so bad.... |
| 03:37.42 | nick125_lappy | 15:34 <nick125_lappy> we're sorry, sir, we cannot use that hideous piece of crap |
| 03:37.45 | nick125_lappy | 15:34 <kevin_> *sigh* |
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| 03:53.39 | findlay | hello |
| 03:55.43 | mheath | mmm, I love this laptop |
| 03:55.50 | mheath | What a bright, shiny widescreen! :) |
| 03:56.14 | jsmith | mheath: You'll be out at sea somewhere, and wish you'd saved all that software to CD |
| 03:56.28 | mheath | jsmith, Eh? |
| 03:56.37 | mheath | I guess I could be out at sea =\ Probably not, though. |
| 03:56.40 | mheath | Chances are |
| 03:56.47 | mheath | Chances are strongly against that |
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| 04:03.15 | mheath[laptop] | w00t |
| 04:03.18 | mheath[laptop] | I'm laying in bed, IRCing. This is amazing. |
| 04:03.39 | QBFreak | I can lay in bed and do IM, but its a pain if I actually get my laptop out |
| 04:03.55 | mheath[laptop] | This machine is so *fast!* |
| 04:04.25 | QBFreak | I got one of these real cheap once: http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/products/imfree/ |
| 04:04.27 | brac | [IMfree Wireless Instant Messenger] |
| 04:04.52 | QBFreak | it works with AIM and ICQ |
| 04:05.25 | QBFreak | although it doesn't appear to support ICQ, apparently it and AIM use the same protocol and severs now |
| 04:06.10 | mheath[laptop] | Yeah. |
| 04:06.23 | QBFreak | ooo I have an interview AND they gave me the gate code for the VIP lot |
| 04:06.34 | QBFreak | I never got to park there when I was a student :( |
| 04:07.04 | QBFreak | hmm, I bet that gate code only works on that day |
| 04:07.12 | mheath[laptop] | lmao |
| 04:07.23 | QBFreak | I should go up the next day and try adding one to it |
| 04:07.24 | mheath[laptop] | Why would you want to go and park there after? |
| 04:07.37 | QBFreak | cause I don't have a permit for any of the other lots |
| 04:07.41 | mheath[laptop] | Yeah, thats a smart way to get a job. |
| 04:07.45 | QBFreak | hehe |
| 04:07.53 | maquis | QBFreak: interview where? |
| 04:07.54 | mheath[laptop] | Lets trespass on their parking lot. |
| 04:08.13 | QBFreak | I used to be a student, technically I still sorta am because being a community college you never get too old |
| 04:08.18 | QBFreak | my ID never expires for instance |
| 04:08.20 | mheath[laptop] | after putting up with public school for 13 years..... |
| 04:08.25 | mheath[laptop] | Tomorrow is the last day. |
| 04:08.25 | QBFreak | maquis: Central Piedmont Community College |
| 04:08.30 | maquis | QBFreak: cool |
| 04:08.34 | QBFreak | mheath[laptop]: congrats |
| 04:08.34 | maquis | good luck on the interview |
| 04:08.36 | maquis | when is it? |
| 04:08.37 | QBFreak | thanks |
| 04:08.44 | QBFreak | monday, 10am |
| 04:08.53 | maquis | fun... for what kind-of work? |
| 04:09.14 | QBFreak | some sort of temporary support for a new system near as I can tell, IT stuff |
| 04:09.30 | maquis | cool |
| 04:09.31 | QBFreak | "Currently, we are looking for applicants who are interested in Part-Time Contract work, beginning at the end of May and through Mid-September, to assist us with student and staff support for the migration to a new registration system." |
| 04:10.00 | QBFreak | heh |
| 04:10.16 | QBFreak | I never was particularly good at it, but I seemed to get good grades on my papers |
| 04:11.40 | ScytheBlade1 | There's a difference between "not being good" and "incapable" ;) |
| 04:11.58 | ScytheBlade1 | A foster child we had in our house once, had to do a report for sophmore health |
| 04:12.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Printed off 230 pages of completly unrelated material and circled about three lines in the whole thing that "related" |
| 04:12.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Sat down, and said, "what next?" |
| 04:13.16 | maquis | QBFreak: ummm... |
| 04:13.25 | maquis | well... |
| 04:13.37 | maquis | see, we're supposed to have 3 pages written by friday |
| 04:13.50 | QBFreak | group projects suck like that |
| 04:13.55 | maquis | so, everyone's supposed to find research (we're only allowed to use peer-reviewed journals) and share them with each other |
| 04:14.04 | maquis | since email was unwieldy, i set up a google notebook account for all of us |
| 04:14.15 | QBFreak | and everyone had fun doing other stuff instead? |
| 04:14.25 | maquis | now, nobody else seems to be capable of finding peer-reviewed journals |
| 04:14.29 | maquis | so, i went off in search of some |
| 04:14.41 | maquis | and found links to 8 online ones in about half an hour |
| 04:15.03 | maquis | one of the guys (doing the overview and introduction and such) was supposed to get his part to everyone by last night |
| 04:15.06 | maquis | still no sign of it |
| 04:15.17 | QBFreak | does Utah have any sort of state-wide collection? North Carolina has a system they call NC Live where they subscribe to all sorts of journals and stuff and you can search them from the library or from any state school |
| 04:15.20 | maquis | everyone else has to get their parts (which build off of the overview and introduction) done tonight |
| 04:15.34 | ScytheBlade1 | QBFreak, yes |
| 04:15.35 | maquis | QBFreak: not sure... byu has some, though |
| 04:15.42 | QBFreak | ScytheBlade1: its an awesome idea |
| 04:15.43 | ScytheBlade1 | pioneer.edu |
| 04:15.48 | QBFreak | a bit unweildy sometimes |
| 04:15.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 04:16.15 | mheath[laptop] | QBFreak, most library's have a huge selection of journals and such. And, of course, theres the site ScytheBlade1 mentioned. |
| 04:16.30 | ScytheBlade1 | mheath[laptop], that's not it though... looking for it now |
| 04:16.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh well |
| 04:16.58 | ScytheBlade1 | We have a *massive* online database of pretty much every mag, article, newspaper, anything written |
| 04:17.12 | mheath[laptop] | it's something like *pioneer*.uen.org probably |
| 04:17.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That's it |
| 04:18.13 | ScytheBlade1 | the login is probably in bugmenot, haha |
| 04:18.17 | levi | maquis: What are you researching? |
| 04:18.28 | mheath[laptop] | I'm hoping this laptop can handle World of Warcraft. |
| 04:18.46 | levi | mheath[laptop]: That's the last thing you need to start right now. :) |
| 04:18.46 | maquis | levi: AIDS |
| 04:18.59 | levi | maquis: Oh, I thought it might be something computer related. Oh well. |
| 04:19.03 | mheath[laptop] | levi, I played for a while. Never seriously or obsessedly, but I enjoyed it. |
| 04:19.07 | ScytheBlade1 | mheath[laptop], BAD IDEA. ;) |
| 04:19.07 | maquis | levi: unfortunately not |
| 04:19.08 | QBFreak | "While replacing the batteries, be sure the time elapse between extract the old one and stuff the new one should not exceed five minutes." |
| 04:19.14 | mheath[laptop] | But then our only computer that was [barely] capable of playing it died. |
| 04:19.24 | maquis | i suggested bioinformatics, but nobody else in my group was interested (this is for bio 100) |
| 04:19.25 | levi | mheath[laptop]: I played it once one night at a friend's house. I knew I could never own it. :) |
| 04:19.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm actually playing it now. |
| 04:19.49 | mheath[laptop] | Nah. I could never get that obsessed with it, and I don't understand why people are. It was just a fun game that I liked playing for an hour or two, once or twice a week. |
| 04:20.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, pretty much |
| 04:20.18 | levi | I wouldn't get obsessed with it, but I would still spend too much time. |
| 04:20.25 | mheath[laptop] | My friend could get to the highest level during the time I had the game. I got to level 16 :P |
| 04:20.31 | levi | maquis: Oh well. |
| 04:20.37 | mheath[laptop] | levi, so what? I have plenty of time, now :) |
| 04:20.38 | maquis | levi: yeah... |
| 04:20.42 | mheath[laptop] | For the next few weeks, that is |
| 04:20.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm pretty sure the time to level grows pretty close to exponentially ;) |
| 04:20.52 | levi | mheath[laptop]: Well, enjoy it, then. |
| 04:21.55 | mheath[laptop] | Oh, I will :) |
| 04:21.55 | ScytheBlade1 | World of Warcraft is highly overrated |
| 04:22.06 | QBFreak | not only is this manual crap, but the whole thing was scanned crooked |
| 04:22.09 | levi | I enjoyed playing Neverwinter Nights. |
| 04:22.13 | mheath[laptop] | hmm, the battery is down to 90% already |
| 04:22.14 | mheath[laptop] | =\ |
| 04:22.24 | levi | mheath[laptop]: How long is it supposed to last? |
| 04:22.35 | levi | maquis: Geek. :) |
| 04:22.37 | mheath[laptop] | levi, didn't say. |
| 04:22.40 | maquis | mheath[laptop]: batteries go down.... that's life on a laptop |
| 04:22.43 | nick125_lappy | speaking of bzflag.. |
| 04:22.44 | maquis | levi: i don't deny that |
| 04:22.46 | levi | maquis: You could play Neverwinter Nights. There's a Linux version. |
| 04:22.55 | mheath[laptop] | Well, I guess I've been on battery for half an hour |
| 04:22.56 | maquis | levi: does it cost anything? |
| 04:23.02 | levi | maquis: Yup. |
| 04:23.02 | mheath[laptop] | 10% == Half an hour |
| 04:23.07 | levi | maquis: But not much. |
| 04:23.11 | maquis | mheath[laptop]: that's not bad at all |
| 04:23.16 | maquis | levi: what kind of game? |
| 04:23.20 | levi | maquis: I think I bought it for $10 or $15. |
| 04:23.51 | levi | maquis: It's a D&D-style game, which can be played solo or multiplayer. |
| 04:23.56 | maquis | interesting |
| 04:23.58 | levi | maquis: It's also user-expandable. |
| 04:24.15 | levi | maquis: And in multi-player games, someone acts as the DM to run things. |
| 04:24.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Know what would be entertaining? |
| 04:24.21 | maquis | hmmm |
| 04:24.28 | ScytheBlade1 | A #utah NWN server |
| 04:24.35 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: a nethack movie |
| 04:24.52 | levi | I haven't done any multiplayer, just the solo stuff. |
| 04:24.56 | levi | Haven't finished yet, either. |
| 04:25.13 | levi | maquis: I saw a link to something that was purported to be nethack pr0n. |
| 04:25.45 | maquis | levi: does nwn require a well-supported graphics card? it looks pretty graphics-intensive |
| 04:26.03 | ScytheBlade1 | maquis, a low-end nvidia will work fine |
| 04:26.07 | maquis | levi: not quite sure what nethack pr0n would be |
| 04:26.21 | ScytheBlade1 | mheath[laptop], what day do you get to wake up early and drive to airwaves? |
| 04:26.22 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: how bout an ATI that i can't seem to get setup correctly? |
| 04:26.28 | ScytheBlade1 | maquis, die in a fire? |
| 04:26.34 | ScytheBlade1 | maquis, ATi = satan spawn |
| 04:26.36 | Lone_Wanderer | You looking for a game to play Maquis? |
| 04:26.41 | QBFreak | "...the user may enter into SO-CALLED TIME-CLOCK mode." |
| 04:26.54 | maquis | Lone_Wanderer: not at the moment... just had nwn recommended as something i should try, though |
| 04:26.57 | QBFreak | they make it sound like it's not really a clock mode or something |
| 04:27.00 | maquis | Lone_Wanderer: you recommending a game? |
| 04:27.12 | levi | maquis: I'm not quite sure either, and I didn't really want to find out. |
| 04:27.25 | maquis | levi: yeah... :( |
| 04:27.41 | maquis | the video card is the only thing i don't really like about my laptop |
| 04:27.42 | Lone_Wanderer | World of Warcraft. Shattered Hand, Alliance side. |
| 04:27.46 | Lone_Wanderer | You can play with my druid. |
| 04:27.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Shattered Hand? pfft |
| 04:27.59 | Lone_Wanderer | I.. mean... |
| 04:28.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Doomhammer! One of the original 10 servers! |
| 04:28.11 | maquis | i'm sure that there's a way to get reasonable support... but i haven't spent enough time on it |
| 04:28.12 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't waste time on video games. I am a productive and mature adult! |
| 04:28.16 | maquis | Lone_Wanderer: lol |
| 04:28.28 | Lone_Wanderer | ScytheBlade1: Was Deathwing one of the other 10? |
| 04:28.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Not sure, I've forgotten |
| 04:28.45 | Lone_Wanderer | 'cause that's where my first char was. |
| 04:28.52 | mheath[laptop] | ScytheBlade1, that was supposed to be today. |
| 04:28.56 | Lone_Wanderer | Ahhh, those halcyon days. |
| 04:29.03 | mheath[laptop] | I've got to e-mail them; not sure if I'm still going to do it |
| 04:29.04 | ScytheBlade1 | mheath[laptop], what happened? |
| 04:29.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Lone_Wanderer, let's say this about WoW: I'm chatting actively on IRC and playing it without missing a beat. |
| 04:29.53 | Lone_Wanderer | Raiding dstrat with Humar the Pride Lord at my side, blasting zombies with my trusty flawless arcanite rifle. |
| 04:30.08 | ScytheBlade1 | pfft |
| 04:30.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Mages > * |
| 04:30.11 | Lone_Wanderer | (The Baron never did drop the pants I need.) |
| 04:30.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Mages are just hunters without pets or ammo. |
| 04:30.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Bit with BIG FREAKING FIREBALLS |
| 04:30.44 | ScytheBlade1 | A gun you say? |
| 04:30.46 | ScytheBlade1 | A fireball I say! |
| 04:31.03 | ScytheBlade1 | *But |
| 04:31.32 | Lone_Wanderer | You will never know the joy of mining thorium for hours on end to maintain your supply of ammunition. |
| 04:31.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Plus, I mean. |
| 04:31.46 | ScytheBlade1 | And I don't plan to |
| 04:31.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Pets. |
| 04:31.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, sucker |
| 04:31.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I want them to make it so that if you don't feed it |
| 04:32.01 | QBFreak | Lone_Wanderer: you wanted a Baron to drop his pants? |
| 04:32.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It turns on you and eats you instead |
| 04:32.08 | QBFreak | some straange people around here... |
| 04:32.25 | Lone_Wanderer | Before they nerfed beast mastery, my pet used to kill mages on it's own. |
| 04:32.36 | Lone_Wanderer | They'd duel me and I'd just set him on them and watch. |
| 04:32.40 | ScytheBlade1 | sheep, tada |
| 04:33.03 | Lone_Wanderer | QBFreak: when you kill a mob and then get loot off of them, the mob is said to have "dropped" the loot. |
| 04:33.07 | Lone_Wanderer | bestial wrath, tada |
| 04:33.12 | Lone_Wanderer | makes them immune to sheeping |
| 04:33.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Cheater :P |
| 04:33.43 | Lone_Wanderer | although ice block or whatever it is that surrounds you with ice making you invulnerable effectively nullifies it |
| 04:33.54 | QBFreak | Lone_Wanderer: I'm aware of that, I'm an admin on a MUD :) |
| 04:34.08 | Lone_Wanderer | Cool. |
| 04:34.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Lone_Wanderer, see, the pet is STILL WAITING for me once I get out of iceblock |
| 04:34.12 | Lone_Wanderer | I used to play a mud. |
| 04:34.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence why I don't have that ;) |
| 04:34.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Yes but ice block lasts as long as bestial wrath does. |
| 04:34.36 | Lone_Wanderer | So when you see the pet get huge and red, just hit ice block. |
| 04:34.53 | QBFreak | does anyone know how long network solutions keeps domains in the pending renewal/deletion period? |
| 04:34.59 | mheath[laptop] | I discovered a good reason to really hate our immigration laws today: |
| 04:35.11 | mheath[laptop] | A new guy started working here. He's here illegally. |
| 04:35.15 | Lone_Wanderer | where? |
| 04:35.25 | mheath[laptop] | We let all kinds of bad people here accidentally. People who turn out to be criminals, drug dealers |
| 04:35.35 | mheath[laptop] | Or lazy people, people who never aspire to anything |
| 04:35.55 | Lone_Wanderer | Wow, I should totally apply. |
| 04:36.02 | Lone_Wanderer | I've got three out of four! |
| 04:36.07 | mheath[laptop] | Why is it that this young, intelligent man who came here to earn money so he can go back to mexico and finish his degree in electronic engineering had to come here illegally? |
| 04:36.47 | mheath[laptop] | What kind of screwed up system stops that, but allows some of the kinds of people who come here to come here legally? |
| 04:37.00 | Lone_Wanderer | Criminal: check. Drug dealer: check. Lazy: check. I do have aspirations though, do you think they'd still take me? They're all WoW-related so it's not like I'm going to get anywhere in real life. |
| 04:37.13 | QBFreak | the kind full of red tape |
| 04:37.34 | Lone_Wanderer | I'll make it simple for you. |
| 04:37.38 | Lone_Wanderer | Move to Switzerland. |
| 04:38.08 | mheath[laptop] | haha, I should recommend that to my friend. |
| 04:38.18 | mheath[laptop] | Hes a huge pacifist, we got in a big fight today |
| 04:38.21 | Lone_Wanderer | And on that note, I'm going to grind out some levels. |
| 04:38.34 | mheath[laptop] | Hes the first person who I've met that things we were unjustified in WWII |
| 04:38.35 | Lone_Wanderer | Heh, I read "big" as "fist" for some reason. |
| 04:38.55 | Lone_Wanderer | The Swiss aren't pacifists. |
| 04:38.58 | mheath[laptop] | So, his plans? "Move to Canada" |
| 04:38.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Lone_Wanderer, keep chatting, AND play WoW. |
| 04:39.01 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I'm doing now |
| 04:39.02 | Lone_Wanderer | Just try invading them. |
| 04:39.09 | mheath[laptop] | "Er, Canada got involved in WWII also" |
| 04:39.21 | Lone_Wanderer | What's his plan? Make love, not war? |
| 04:39.25 | mheath[laptop] | He said that |
| 04:39.34 | mheath[laptop] | "The answer is love, not war! They need to realize that!" |
| 04:39.39 | Lone_Wanderer | Right. |
| 04:40.04 | Lone_Wanderer | "Hitler, I understand that you don't feel good about yourself so you feel the need to take over the world as a result. But you can talk about your feelings here; this is a Safe Place." |
| 04:40.18 | mheath[laptop] | "Well, what about during world war two? Germany has half of europe, is bombing the heck out of our allies, and then starts attacking us. We can't approach them diplomatically, because they'll blow up our ships if they try to land on their coasts. What do you do?" |
| 04:40.55 | mheath[laptop] | "It was all the UNs fault! They're causing all the wars, then, and now! If they weren't so screwed up, we wouldn't have this problem!" |
| 04:40.58 | Lone_Wanderer | "I totally understand man. I was on the verge of forming a fascist state too. But then I started coming to these Dictators Anonymous meetings and I'm so much more at peace." |
| 04:41.25 | mheath[laptop] | "Erm....number one, the UN didn't exist then. Number two, no matter who screwedup, you're still in this situation. What would you have done?" |
| 04:41.28 | Lone_Wanderer | "You better check yourself, before you wreck your country's economy and social stability." |
| 04:42.32 | mheath[laptop] | It just bugs me when people say stuff like "War never solves anything!" |
| 04:43.00 | mheath[laptop] | I was going to buy a USMC shirt that says "War has never solved anything....except for Fascism, Nazism, Communism, Slavery, Opression, and Killing" |
| 04:43.27 | mheath[laptop] | I feel justified in saying these things. |
| 04:43.43 | mheath[laptop] | My views on war came after a lot of thought and considertion. I used to be a huge pacifist. |
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| 04:45.08 | mheath[laptop]_ | Wow. |
| 04:45.15 | QBFreak | mheath[laptop]_: nice shirt :) |
| 04:45.16 | mheath[laptop]_ | ~lart wireless |
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| 04:45.55 | Lone_Wanderer_ | Okay so. |
| 04:45.58 | mheath[laptop]_ | I hate colds. Jeez. |
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| 04:46.15 | mheath[laptop]_ | I have my USNSCC drill coming up these weekend |
| 04:46.24 | mheath[laptop]_ | Which basically intails yelling a lot |
| 04:46.28 | mheath[laptop]_ | and I can barely talk |
| 04:46.32 | maquis | USNSCC? |
| 04:46.34 | QBFreak | your wireless has a cold? oh |
| 04:46.45 | mheath[laptop]_ | maquis, JROTC-like group. |
| 04:46.51 | maquis | mheath[laptop]_: oh.. |
| 04:46.53 | maquis | ok... |
| 04:47.09 | mheath[laptop]_ | Military related youth group. I'm going to it for the last time this weekend; I put up with it for a year so I could get an advanced rank in the military. Very good group, though |
| 04:47.25 | Lone_Wanderer | Blah. |
| 04:47.25 | mheath[laptop]_ | Oh, but i forgot. One should never yell! |
| 04:47.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Apparently it's made up. |
| 04:47.49 | Lone_Wanderer | But it's a good story anyway. |
| 04:47.51 | mheath[laptop]_ | As my friend would probably say, we should all talk in harmonious whispers of love and peace. |
| 04:47.55 | mheath[laptop]_ | Lone_Wanderer, eh? |
| 04:48.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Reporter to LTG: "But you're equipping these boys to become violent killers!" |
| 04:48.29 | Lone_Wanderer | LTG to (female) Reporter: "You're equipped to be a prostitute, but you aren't one now are you?" |
| 04:48.43 | QBFreak | that made me smile when I heard that :) |
| 04:48.57 | mheath[laptop]_ | What is that from? |
| 04:49.12 | mheath[laptop]_ | I know its a real quote, but in reference to what? |
| 04:49.15 | Lone_Wanderer | I just heard it somewhere. |
| 04:49.18 | mheath[laptop]_ | What are "these boys" |
| 04:49.19 | Lone_Wanderer | But I'm reading it on Snopes now. |
| 04:49.20 | QBFreak | I once knew and forgot |
| 04:49.25 | Lone_Wanderer | Boy scouts going to the firing range. |
| 04:49.53 | mheath[laptop]_ | Ah. |
| 04:49.56 | mheath[laptop]_ | Silly... |
| 04:50.08 | Lone_Wanderer | Now. |
| 04:50.15 | QBFreak | Later. |
| 04:50.19 | Lone_Wanderer | World of Warcraft. |
| 04:50.29 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath[laptop], did you decide on your graduation gift? |
| 04:50.36 | mheath[laptop]_ | ..... |
| 04:50.52 | levi | xbmodder_lappy is not the most observant guy. |
| 04:51.07 | xbmodder_lappy | laptop? |
| 04:51.07 | QBFreak | xbmodder_lappy: go back to sleep :p |
| 04:51.09 | xbmodder_lappy | right... |
| 04:51.14 | mheath[laptop]_ | Indeed. |
| 04:51.43 | xbmodder_lappy | within what, 48 hours. |
| 04:51.55 | xbmodder_lappy | Thats pretty good turn-around time. |
| 04:52.20 | xbmodder_lappy | and even for getting it setup and stuff |
| 04:53.19 | Lone_Wanderer | ScytheBlade1: What level's your mage? |
| 04:53.24 | xbmodder_lappy | night |
| 04:53.28 | mheath[laptop]_ | Tomorrow is the last day of my public schooling :) |
| 04:53.30 | QBFreak | laters mheath[laptop]_ |
| 04:53.35 | mheath[laptop]_ | I'm done. Finished. :) |
| 04:53.36 | QBFreak | and congrats |
| 04:53.39 | maquis | mheath[laptop]_: congrats |
| 04:53.50 | xbmodder_lappy | congrats *envy* |
| 04:53.50 | maquis | mheath[laptop]_: make sure you read /msg before going to bed |
| 04:53.53 | QBFreak | gonna be all properly gradumacated? |
| 04:54.02 | mheath[laptop]_ | Thanks, maquis, QBFreak |
| 04:54.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Lone_Wanderer, 60. |
| 04:54.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Cool. |
| 04:54.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Lone_Wanderer, no comment as to /played |
| 04:54.20 | Lone_Wanderer | heh |
| 04:54.22 | Lone_Wanderer | same |
| 04:54.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I only have one char really |
| 04:54.29 | mheath[laptop]_ | maquis, oh! I forgot that freenode doesn't allow unregistered nicks to msg |
| 04:54.35 | mheath[laptop]_ | I replied to all of that. Heh. |
| 04:54.41 | maquis | mheath[laptop]_: lol |
| 04:54.55 | mheath[laptop]_ | Thanks, Maquis. Your comments are appreciated |
| 04:54.58 | Lone_Wanderer | I used to have only one char, but then I switched servers and made one alt in each class. |
| 04:54.59 | maquis | :) |
| 04:55.07 | mheath[laptop]_ | now I feel like a moron :P |
| 04:55.10 | maquis | mheath[laptop]_: when do you start with marines? |
| 04:55.31 | mheath[laptop]_ | maquis, around 6 weeks. |
| 04:55.54 | maquis | gnight |
| 04:55.58 | mheath[laptop]_ | I want to be well rested. I'm very sick and need to recover! |
| 04:56.01 | mheath[laptop]_ | gnight |
| 04:57.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy |
| 04:57.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Some people in my guild have 83 days /played |
| 04:57.30 | Lone_Wanderer | wowza |
| 04:57.37 | QBFreak | my phone is dying :( |
| 04:57.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Others have two 60s with >50 /played each |
| 04:57.42 | QBFreak | and not the battery |
| 04:58.06 | QBFreak | the alarm hardly ever sounds unless you reboot and then leave it alone |
| 04:58.16 | QBFreak | sometimes it reboots when trying to answer calls |
| 04:58.29 | QBFreak | and now it doesn't vibrate in silent mode (most likely needs a reboot) |
| 05:01.05 | QBFreak | nope, still wont |
| 05:04.21 | levi | QBFreak: My treo stopped being able to make calls. Fortunately, all the Palm functionality still works, and I've simply canceled my cell service. |
| 05:04.35 | levi | And got a cheap T-Mobile To-Go phone. |
| 05:05.15 | goozbach | levi: what happened? |
| 05:05.23 | maquis | -lart goozbach |
| 05:05.25 | goozbach | to cause the phone to not work? |
| 05:09.19 | levi | goozbach: I dunno, it just stopped working. It'd hang when I attempted to call, and I'd have to reset it. |
| 05:09.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh well |
| 05:09.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I need to sleep all |
| 05:09.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Night |
| 05:09.57 | goozbach | heh |
| 05:09.59 | Lone_Wanderer | later, sleep well |
| 05:10.42 | QBFreak | levi: I have the cheapest I could get at the time :) |
| 05:10.50 | QBFreak | I should be glad it lasted this long |
| 05:11.05 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:11.10 | QBFreak | I liked it, nice and simple, perfect for what I needed |
| 05:11.18 | nick125 | my treo is working fine here... |
| 05:11.44 | nick125 | except for the weekly reset or so |
| 05:11.45 | QBFreak | I have to admit a PDA phone would be kinda cool, but out of my price range |
| 05:19.19 | QBFreak | wow, I disconnect my tuner card and my cable reception gets so much clearer |
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| 05:30.23 | xbmodder_lappy | Does anyone know how much fedex insurance is? |
| 05:31.31 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: i'm guessing fedex.com would have some info on that |
| 05:31.48 | xbmodder_lappy | it says call |
| 05:31.55 | xbmodder_lappy | which i am doing |
| 05:31.57 | levi | The treo was great when it worked, which was for a couple of years at least. I just didn't use it enough to justify the cell bill I was paying monthly. |
| 05:35.57 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_lappy: why are you calling fedex -_- |
| 05:36.11 | nick125_lappy | well,hey, fedex is better then UPS |
| 05:36.20 | nick125_lappy | least they don't try to run you overin the parking lot |
| 05:41.03 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 05:41.13 | maquis | ~ping someone who's responsible for the plug mailing list |
| 05:41.14 | ibot | pong someone who's responsible for the plug mailing list |
| 05:41.29 | levi | maquis: Probably not, if you don't use the phone much or a PDA much. |
| 05:41.43 | levi | Have you tried sending any email on the plug list lately? |
| 05:41.50 | maquis | levi: i use my cellphone plenty |
| 05:42.06 | maquis | levi: no, but torrie says he sent something today and it hasn't bounced.... |
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| 05:42.36 | levi | I found the process of maintaining contacts and such on my treo was FAR easier than on any other phone I've used. |
| 05:43.10 | levi | I found the interface far more pleasant than other phones, at least for the way I used it. |
| 05:43.40 | maquis | levi: the thing is... i've never gotten the hang of actually using a pda, and on my cell phone, for numbers i call often, i just put the number in myself... and i don't even use half the features of the phone i have... |
| 05:44.09 | levi | Yeah, I don't memorize phone numbers, so I almost never entered them manually when I wanted to dial. |
| 05:44.34 | maquis | i dont mean to memorize phone numbers... |
| 05:44.54 | maquis | they just stuck |
| 05:45.01 | levi | I don't mean to /not/ memorize them. |
| 05:45.06 | levi | They just don't stick. :) |
| 05:49.17 | xbmodder_lappy | how do companies charge 50-100 dollars for shipping |
| 05:49.47 | xbmodder_lappy | according to this fedex rep its 25 bucks for S&H on a 1U server 31 pounds, with insurance |
| 05:50.58 | nick125_lappy | maybe the H part of S&H |
| 05:51.04 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 05:55.29 | nick125_lappy | I'm bored |
| 05:55.38 | nick125_lappy | xbmodder_lappy: so, why did you want my zip again? |
| 05:55.56 | nick125_lappy | whats your plan -_- |
| 06:04.48 | xbmodder_lappy | people ship to us |
| 06:06.47 | nick125_lappy | you want people to ship to me? |
| 06:06.58 | nick125_lappy | why.. |
| 06:07.02 | nick125_lappy | what would I do with it :P |
| 06:08.14 | xbmodder_lappy | no |
| 06:08.23 | xbmodder_lappy | you provision |
| 06:08.29 | xbmodder_lappy | i get the thing and setup SSHd |
| 06:09.10 | nick125_lappy | they send to me, i provision, i send to you, you just drop it in our datacenter |
| 06:09.12 | nick125_lappy | :P |
| 06:09.30 | nick125_lappy | oh well |
| 06:09.32 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 06:09.40 | nick125_lappy | I was hoping I could touch one of those boxes :P |
| 06:09.42 | xbmodder_lappy | shipping between you and me is 25 bucks |
| 06:09.59 | nick125_lappy | if a customer found bzflag installed on their quad dual core opteron, they won't mind, right? |
| 06:10.04 | nick125_lappy | :P |
| 06:10.05 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 06:10.24 | xbmodder_lappy | imagine if i provisioned it, then what would they find |
| 06:10.30 | xbmodder_lappy | A hard drive full of /dev/urandom? |
| 06:10.39 | nick125_lappy | no... |
| 06:10.41 | nick125_lappy | probably not.. |
| 06:14.14 | xbmodder_lappy | then what? |
| 06:14.54 | nick125_lappy | no clue |
| 06:24.21 | nick125_lappy | only you know |
| 06:24.26 | nick125_lappy | back to watching food network |
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| 06:31.32 | nick125_lappy | okay back to the science channel |
| 06:34.33 | dilvie | d'oh |
| 06:35.04 | dilvie | maquis: what website? |
| 06:37.08 | maquis | dilvie: tuxgirl.com |
| 06:37.21 | maquis | apparently it's blocked... |
| 06:38.21 | maquis | it's fun. we're chatting across a 11 or 12 hour time difference |
| 06:40.08 | dilvie | yay |
| 06:47.00 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, have you visited your penpal? |
| 06:52.42 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, have you tried taring up your site and using gpg to crypt it, sending it to her, and she can decrypt it and look at it |
| 06:53.03 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: we haven't tried tarring the site... that seems like overkill... |
| 06:53.06 | maquis | as for visiting her, no... |
| 06:53.10 | maquis | we've never met or talked on the phone |
| 06:53.18 | maquis | but we've been writing for... umm... |
| 06:53.27 | maquis | 11 years, i think |
| 06:54.31 | maquis | since the beginning of 5th grade |
| 06:55.14 | xbmodder_lappy | wow |
| 06:55.45 | xbmodder_lappy | thats amazing, how did you come in contact with her? |
| 06:55.59 | xbmodder_lappy | was it one of those penpal writing abroad programs? |
| 06:56.04 | maquis | i was taking my first chinese class |
| 06:56.19 | maquis | and our teacher contacted a school in mainland china so that we could get more writing practice |
| 06:56.28 | maquis | so, it started as a class assignment, and just grew from there |
| 06:57.02 | maquis | we haven't been consistent at all in our writing (there is actually a multiple-year gap in our writing at one point), but we're still in touch, and it's always exciting to hear from her. |
| 06:57.57 | xbmodder_lappy | do you mainly communicate in english, or chinese? |
| 06:58.07 | maquis | mainly english now |
| 06:58.32 | maquis | when we started, when it was for school, it was mainly chinese, but now we do mainly english because her english is much better than my chinese |
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| 07:37.32 | lindyjan | hi |
| 07:38.15 | lindyjan | anyone up? |
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| 07:41.52 | xbmodder_lappy | lindyjan, hey |
| 07:42.01 | xbmodder_lappy | what are you doing up so late |
| 07:42.27 | xbmodder_lappy | night in |
| 07:42.29 | xbmodder_lappy | 5... |
| 07:42.31 | xbmodder_lappy | 4... |
| 07:42.32 | xbmodder_lappy | 3... |
| 07:42.34 | xbmodder_lappy | 2... |
| 07:42.35 | xbmodder_lappy | 1... |
| 07:42.36 | lindyjan | hi |
| 07:42.39 | lindyjan | sorry, got booted |
| 07:42.42 | lindyjan | didn't know the tos |
| 07:42.50 | lindyjan | i drank too much caffeine |
| 07:42.56 | lindyjan | not sleepy |
| 07:43.00 | xbmodder_lappy | fun |
| 07:43.04 | lindyjan | yeah |
| 07:43.08 | xbmodder_lappy | well I gotta get to sleep |
| 07:43.09 | xbmodder_lappy | sorry |
| 07:43.52 | lindyjan | ok |
| 07:43.53 | lindyjan | bye bye |
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| 12:35.16 | maquis | w00t! finished the bio homework |
| 12:35.24 | maquis | (fell asleep 3 lines in... ) |
| 12:44.36 | goozbach | woot! woot is a good one today |
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| 12:55.13 | goozbach | ~physics #utah |
| 12:55.32 | goozbach | ~physics |
| 12:55.34 | ibot | [physics] only for losers |
| 12:58.51 | goozbach | gimmme an "J" |
| 13:05.42 | QBFreak | goozbach: ooo it is |
| 13:06.00 | QBFreak | but I keep spending money, gotta stop somewhere :( |
| 13:06.43 | QBFreak | wait....5 disc DVD changer? |
| 13:07.40 | QBFreak | wait, no FM tuner? what were they thinking? I feel better now |
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| 13:15.30 | goozbach | hah ha |
| 13:16.36 | QBFreak | I think I might try and sell my tuner card, it introduces too much noise into the cable line |
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| 13:41.35 | maquis | -lart goozbach |
| 13:41.42 | maquis | QBFreak: just a couple days too late |
| 13:41.53 | maquis | my tuner arrived in the mail yesterday |
| 13:42.28 | QBFreak | thats ok, this one is pretty crappy in the noise department |
| 13:42.59 | maquis | :) |
| 13:43.32 | QBFreak | the reviews were mixed, I suspect it has a lot to do with the quality of your power supply and other components |
| 13:43.40 | maquis | ah... |
| 13:43.58 | maquis | i've heard good things about the one i got, so... hopefully that's good |
| 13:44.13 | QBFreak | cool, what card? |
| 13:44.26 | maquis | hauppage pvr-150mce |
| 13:44.41 | QBFreak | a name brand is always a plus :) |
| 13:44.45 | maquis | :) |
| 13:48.24 | mheath | Our hauppage died on us, and I could never figure out why. |
| 13:48.48 | mheath | I hate colds. |
| 13:49.05 | QBFreak | mheath: I had one permanantly attached so I didn't have ot carry it around |
| 13:50.11 | QBFreak | except my problem is allergies |
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| 13:57.21 | mheath | I really don't feel that bad. And I wouldn't really care, except, this weekend I have my USNSCC drill, and I can't talk loudly at all. |
| 14:09.25 | mheath | hey, is the infrared built into most laptops bidirectional? |
| 14:09.42 | mheath | That is, could I get like an infrared remote that I can use directly with the laptop? |
| 14:10.47 | mheath | maquis, have you been up all night? |
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| 14:11.13 | maquis | mheath: not quite... but almost |
| 14:11.17 | mheath | ~tell maquis go to sleep |
| 14:11.31 | mheath | Hahaha |
| 14:11.43 | mheath | <ibot> No, mheath, I won't. |
| 14:11.57 | mheath | maquis, go to sleep! |
| 14:12.51 | maquis | mheath: i'd like to... but i've got a lot of things that need to get done today |
| 14:13.05 | mheath | well, take a nap? |
| 14:13.13 | maquis | mheath: planning on that in a little |
| 14:13.30 | mheath | I'm going to go get a case for this laptop today :) |
| 14:17.55 | redman1 | "Ahhh, the internet. Where men are men, women are men, and young girls are undercover cops." |
| 14:20.53 | goozbach | ~tell mheath no |
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| 14:21.37 | goozbach | tell mheath about no |
| 14:21.45 | goozbach | ~tell mheath about no |
| 14:22.02 | goozbach | heh |
| 14:22.08 | maquis | ~lart goozbach |
| 14:24.13 | tyce | so google deleted all my recorded programs on my mythtv box |
| 14:24.25 | maquis | tyce: how'd google do that? |
| 14:24.27 | redman1 | google did? |
| 14:24.30 | tyce | yeah |
| 14:24.43 | tyce | one of their bots from their IP |
| 14:24.52 | mrpull | ha! |
| 14:24.55 | maquis | did you have the system setup by those people on thedailywtf.com where a link can delete everything? |
| 14:24.56 | redman1 | how'd they do that? |
| 14:24.57 | tyce | 66.249.65.131 - - [17/May/2006:06:08:41 -0600] "GET /mythweb/recorded_programs.php?delete=yes&file=%2Fmnt%2Fstore%2F%2F1013_20060515195800_20060515210300.nuv HTTP/1.1" 302 26 |
| 14:24.57 | tyce | "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" |
| 14:25.07 | maquis | yup... |
| 14:25.11 | redman1 | whoa. |
| 14:25.15 | maquis | it's just like in thedailywtf.com |
| 14:25.17 | mrpull | tyce: maybe a robots.txt would be in order |
| 14:25.39 | mrpull | I've heard about a company with a CMS that kept getting deleted by googlebot |
| 14:25.44 | mrpull | never myth tho |
| 14:25.48 | maquis | mrpull: that's the one i'm referring to |
| 14:26.01 | tyce | well, the thing is, I don't usually have port 80 open to the world, I had just forgotten to shut it down the last time I used it. |
| 14:26.34 | mrpull | tyce: that is priceless |
| 14:27.45 | tyce | not that it's that big of a deal... all that was recorded were shows my wife watches, but still |
| 14:27.49 | tyce | kinda jacked up |
| 14:28.03 | redman1 | yeah |
| 14:28.07 | sjansen | Geez, Rails almost makes me want to be a Web developer again. |
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| 14:29.06 | tyce | do you have the actual link to thedailtywtf.com article? |
| 14:29.46 | sjansen | tyce: The sad part is that I don't think it's wtf worthy. Too many Web apps allow it. |
| 14:30.35 | maquis | tyce: not off the top of my head |
| 14:33.31 | QBFreak | ack |
| 14:33.50 | QBFreak | I searched for cat recipes thinking maybe I'd find something humorous, instead I find a site complete with pictures on how to skin it... |
| 14:34.02 | maquis | QBFreak: ick |
| 14:34.07 | maquis | why were you searching for that? |
| 14:34.31 | QBFreak | I thought I'd find something humorous |
| 14:34.45 | goozbach | yeah cause kittens in food is funny... |
| 14:34.46 | QBFreak | I keep forgetting that the internet can be a very messed up place :) |
| 14:35.22 | sjansen | Not every culture considers cats to be family members. |
| 14:35.28 | QBFreak | I'll stick with the safer one of bathing a cat... |
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| 14:51.47 | sjansen | http://wiki.rubygarden.org/Ruby/page/show/MatzIsNiceAndSoWeAreNice |
| 14:54.42 | [Utah]tristanbob | does ubuntu use NTP to update the time? |
| 14:54.57 | mheath | [Utah]tristanbob, yes. |
| 14:55.01 | [Utah]tristanbob | my dapper in a VM thinks it is may 16th |
| 14:55.47 | [Utah]tristanbob | and a second dapper vm thinks it is the 17th |
| 14:56.04 | [Utah]tristanbob | only my windows can get the time right? |
| 14:56.50 | mheath | Adjust the time, The sync only occurs when you restart the system, I belive. |
| 15:00.03 | [Utah]tristanbob | I have rebooted recently. Hmmm.... |
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| 15:08.10 | sjansen | http://whytheluckystiff.net/i.content/mirador_lion.jpg |
| 15:08.19 | sjansen | http://whytheluckystiff.net/clog/wander/soYouWantToShootAGiraffeInTheForehead.html |
| 15:10.40 | sjansen | [Utah]tristanbob: It'll use NTP if you configure it to use NTP. |
| 15:10.53 | [Utah]tristanbob | sjansen: how about by default? |
| 15:11.02 | [Utah]tristanbob | just wondering how intuitive it is |
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| 15:15.47 | sjansen | IIRC, not it doesn't by default. You have to select an NTP server to query. |
| 15:16.22 | sjansen | Should just be under System > Administration > Date & Time. |
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| 15:43.50 | sjansen | -fart elg |
| 15:45.41 | goozbach | sjansen: lamont teaching today? |
| 15:45.47 | sjansen | yup |
| 15:46.24 | goozbach | cool, in the office or on the road? |
| 15:47.43 | tensai | ~lart pluglist admins |
| 15:47.54 | Jayce^ | hey, it's hans' fault |
| 15:48.14 | sjansen | in the office |
| 15:48.23 | Jayce^ | stupid replacement box won't install, well, debian keeps dropping to busybox on boot |
| 15:48.52 | sjansen | replacement box? |
| 15:49.19 | Jayce^ | yeah, I've got a box for the new plug box, a little better, rack mount, etc |
| 15:49.26 | Jayce^ | dual 17gb drives |
| 15:50.34 | ^Migs^ | http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2006/05/18/humans_chimps_may_have_bred_after_split/ |
| 15:50.36 | brac | [Humans, chimps may have bred after split - The Boston Globe] |
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| 15:57.26 | harleypig | brangelina ... what a name. |
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| 15:59.23 | harleypig | Didn't Talmage claim that Jesus had to have been married? |
| 16:00.16 | ^Migs^ | I think he did actually. Some earlier LDS leaders believed he was, too. |
| 16:00.29 | ^Migs^ | I'd have to look up the quotes, to be sure, though. |
| 16:00.51 | harleypig | Can anyone point me to the church's response ... I only caught what was on the news last night. |
| 16:01.02 | elg | the church has a response? |
| 16:01.46 | harleypig | to the da vinci code, yeah. It was on the news lsat n ight. |
| 16:01.56 | harleypig | or, rather, an opinion |
| 16:02.02 | elg | if it's an official response, it's probably on lds.org |
| 16:02.57 | harleypig | http://www.ksl.com/?sid=266159&nid=148 |
| 16:02.58 | brac | [ksl.com - Utah's Online Source for Local News & Information LDS Church Issues Statement Regarding "The Da Vinci Code"] |
| 16:03.03 | harleypig | I can't find it on lds.org |
| 16:04.32 | harleypig | Ah ... I see ... it was a spokesman, with a statement. |
| 16:04.53 | harleypig | In other words, the church is oging to do the same as it's almost always done. Nothing. :] |
| 16:05.06 | harleypig | I don't understand why people are so up in arms about this. |
| 16:06.17 | elg | well, the idea that He was married goes against the whole Cathoic celibacy thing pretty strongly |
| 16:06.30 | herlo | harleypig: its religion, take the gaza strip and the west bank. How long has that battle been going on? Since the dawn of time we have all believed in something, and sometimes its so serious...sometimes, like this, its not |
| 16:06.36 | macnewbold | celibacy schmelibacy |
| 16:07.06 | herlo | good thing we all can agree to disagree on #utah |
| 16:08.02 | Supaplex | what came first, Roman Catholicism or Christ? |
| 16:08.06 | herlo | those who are extreme believe everyone should believe their way, in my opinion, everyone should let things so minor go and worry about what concerns them and theirs.... |
| 16:08.09 | macnewbold | Christ |
| 16:08.38 | goozbach | my question is this, "has the da-vinci code ever perported to be more than entertainment?" |
| 16:08.43 | Jayce^ | herlo, you just say that 'cause you like PHP... loser... :-p |
| 16:09.02 | herlo | ~lart Jayce^ for his cynical remorse |
| 16:09.02 | elg | goozbach: nope. it is misleading in the front cover about the 'facts' |
| 16:09.08 | elg | but never claimed to be history |
| 16:09.23 | macnewbold | hehe, goozbach, if you read the first few pages of the book, it claims that while part of it is fiction, all references to organizations and historical documents are true |
| 16:09.41 | herlo | goozbach: that's the problem. This also applies to the HBO show "Big Love". Its a good show, but you don't have to watch it if it offends... |
| 16:09.53 | levi | Which is, most likely, sensasionalist crap aimed to sell more books. :) |
| 16:10.01 | Supaplex | Jayce^: I see a day when php rui^Hns everything. It'll be its own apoclypse. ;) |
| 16:10.03 | macnewbold | it sounded to me when I read it like it was claiming to be historically accurate in some of those aspects. |
| 16:10.29 | Jayce^ | Supaplex, rasmus is one of the horsemen... along with guido |
| 16:10.34 | herlo | macnewbold: it claims that the references to organizations and documents are true, but not necessarily how they are used is true. Thats the problem with this sort of fiction, as people believe its all treu |
| 16:10.41 | harleypig | I can understand people getting upset over the suggestion he is married to Mary Magdelene |
| 16:11.09 | levi | The woman who wrote the book that was one of Dan Brown's sources on that matter was at my wedding open house in Washington. |
| 16:11.14 | Supaplex | they can claim what ever they want, they can sound authentic, but it's up to you to decide. don't give in to their ruse. it's a film. |
| 16:12.18 | herlo | right |
| 16:12.58 | xbmodder_lappy | hiya! |
| 16:13.10 | levi | This book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1879181037/ |
| 16:14.57 | elg | for example, he claims all the artwork is accurate, but the painting she threatens to rip is actually a wood panel |
| 16:15.12 | elg | and that's not even anything controversial |
| 16:15.16 | elg | well, unless you're an art nut |
| 16:16.25 | levi | You all know how closely 'based on a true story' movies resemble real life, right? |
| 16:16.40 | elg | precisely |
| 16:17.02 | elg | what really amuses me is the "any resemblence to real people is coincidental" at the end of movies like star wars or alien or something |
| 16:17.05 | elg | :) |
| 16:17.50 | sjansen | As opposed to, say, elg who is just plain a nut. |
| 16:18.07 | levi | Anyway, my favorite book on the matter of ancient secret societies and conspiracies and such is Umberto Eco's "Foucault's Pendulum" |
| 16:18.18 | sjansen | orbital++ |
| 16:18.41 | Supaplex | elg, lest we get chubby 14yr old boys fantasizing online. oh wait, that's already happened. |
| 16:19.22 | herlo | levi: I saw that book, looked good |
| 16:20.22 | elg | what really gets me is I don't see how they can make an interesting movie out of that book |
| 16:20.23 | levi | herlo: It's heavy reading, but fascinating. |
| 16:20.36 | elg | and according to rottentomatoes some reviewers agree with me |
| 16:26.31 | macnewbold | if you liked the davinci code book, you'd probably like angels and demons too |
| 16:27.42 | sjansen | it was okay, nothing great |
| 16:29.43 | sjansen | o/~ Spice must flow. ~/o |
| 16:30.43 | elg | o/~ woncha tell me what you want what you really really want |
| 16:32.34 | Jayce^ | o/~ voc? deita na cama com os p?s n? s?culo vinte um ~/o |
| 16:34.04 | Uncle_Jesse | ~/o Even Flow... ~/o |
| 16:34.06 | ibot | ACTION sings with uncle_jesse |
| 16:48.09 | lars-ut-away | levI: "Foucault's Pendulum"? Man, now I've got to add that to my list. I really like Eco's book, The Name of The Rose. Never saw the whole movie though. |
| 16:48.53 | lars-ut-away | levi: I especially liked the character that spoke a jumble of languages. |
| 16:51.03 | lars-ut-away | Licetne mihi ad arcam ire? |
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| 16:51.27 | brac | [Music thing: vPipes: Super-hot MIDI bagpipes] |
| 16:53.56 | herlo | lars-ut: we could go in together on that book. I am going to look for it next week while I am on the road |
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| 16:56.54 | levi | lars-ut: I haven't read Name of the Rose, but if you like Eco's writing, you will probably enjoy Foucault's Pendulum. |
| 16:57.30 | levi | It's a really intelligent take on conspiracy theory. |
| 16:57.43 | levi | With a lot of real historical information. |
| 16:58.20 | levi | Written by a guy who can construct prose. And translated by someone who can construct English sentences. :) |
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| 17:00.37 | sjansen | o/~ Celebrate the bullet ~/o |
| 17:01.11 | tensai | redman1: how do I adjust a fudge recipe for high altitude? says to bring to 236 degrees. do I add or subtract 2 degrees per 1kft? |
| 17:02.17 | redman1 | tensai: dude, believe it or not, i've never made fudge. but i can tell you that the boiling point does drop for every 1000ft |
| 17:03.01 | tensai | redman1: wha?!? I thought you knew everything :) |
| 17:03.02 | redman1 | you know what you should do? go over to the message board here and ask: http://utahbakersdozen.org/ |
| 17:03.19 | redman1 | i'll make sure it gets answered by a candy expert if you post in there |
| 17:03.53 | redman1 | deal? |
| 17:04.21 | synic | has anyone used svncommand.vim ? |
| 17:05.21 | sjansen | redman1: my faith in you has been shaken to the core |
| 17:05.34 | redman1 | because i've never made fudge? |
| 17:05.46 | Jayce^ | I find your lack of faith disturbing... |
| 17:05.53 | sjansen | I now have no choice but to write a long essay decrying your evil deception, then post it to my blog. |
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| 17:05.58 | redman1 | sjansen: wait. you had faith in me? |
| 17:06.06 | redman1 | when did that happen? |
| 17:07.58 | tensai | redman1: ah, but I've been trying to avoid getting a gmail account. looks like an interesting group though. I'm so torn |
| 17:08.16 | tensai | I found the answer at whole foods website, of all places. |
| 17:08.32 | tensai | "Mixtures with high sugar content such as candy and frosting become concentrated faster due to rapid evaporation. When using a thermometer, reduce recipe temperature 1?F for every 500 feet of elevation." |
| 17:09.03 | redman1 | tensai: you should still post something there tho. we're trying to get some activity going. |
| 17:09.22 | redman1 | and i know that ruth will post answers to candy questions if you ask there |
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| 17:14.41 | redman1 | tensai: highly recommended: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0895863073/ |
| 17:18.22 | Uncle_Jesse | It was actually better than I usually make them in the frying pan |
| 17:18.24 | redman1 | Uncle_Jesse: you been watching ham on the street or something? |
| 17:18.30 | Uncle_Jesse | redman1: yup :-) |
| 17:18.51 | redman1 | i learned how to blow up a dozen eggs in the microwave |
| 17:18.51 | Uncle_Jesse | I immediately went down and tried it |
| 17:18.58 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - that was pretty cool too |
| 17:19.18 | tensai | redman1: lemme guess, cooked them in the shell? |
| 17:19.40 | Uncle_Jesse | I want to find some popcorn on the cob now |
| 17:19.40 | redman1 | tensai: yeah. he opened the carton, put it in the microwave, and set to high |
| 17:20.24 | Uncle_Jesse | My kids would love to watch the popcorn pop right off the cob |
| 17:20.46 | tensai | making your own microwave popcorn is another great one |
| 17:21.04 | tensai | drop it in a paper bag, fold it closed, nuke for 1 minute |
| 17:21.15 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone know where I can buy popcorn still on the cob (that's dried)? |
| 17:21.43 | redman1 | Uncle_Jesse: pirate o's |
| 17:21.59 | Uncle_Jesse | redman1: I read about that on your blog. I'll check them out. |
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| 17:24.41 | Uncle_Jesse | I think I'm going to re-design my blog to a more "Uncle Jesse" theme - I own unclejesse.org, which would make sense |
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| 17:26.16 | vontrapp | is there a way to use gvim from windows to edit files remotely over sftp or scp? |
| 17:26.45 | macnewbold | I know you can do it with emacs :) see tramp |
| 17:27.22 | vontrapp | how about a way to create some kind of sftp 'mount' |
| 17:27.49 | mrpull- | vontrapp: is webdav an option? |
| 17:28.00 | vontrapp | maybe |
| 17:28.19 | mrpull- | you can mount a webdav share in windows |
| 17:28.58 | Uncle_Jesse | vontrapp: you may be able to do something through eclipse |
| 17:33.51 | levi | tramp is wonderful |
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| 17:36.30 | goozbach | redman1: I just had my first "low country boil" |
| 17:36.34 | goozbach | good stuff, |
| 17:37.12 | goozbach | put various seafood items (crablegs, crayfish, shrimp etc..) |
| 17:37.29 | goozbach | in a pot with veggies(corn on the cob, potatoes, etc) |
| 17:37.44 | goozbach | add water to cover, some seasoining, and boil away |
| 17:37.55 | goozbach | I ate about a pound of shrimp just now |
| 17:41.36 | tensai | that's like a new england clam bake |
| 17:43.26 | vontrapp | vim has the netrw plugin, but i can't seem to get it to work from windows |
| 17:45.15 | Robdor | are you getting an error? |
| 17:46.03 | vontrapp | just "access denied" |
| 17:46.07 | vontrapp | when i type my password |
| 17:47.00 | vontrapp | i'm using scp://von@host/file |
| 17:47.46 | Robdor | are you doing :e scp://von@host/file? |
| 17:48.07 | vontrapp | oh, and using pscp copied into /windows/system32/scp.exe |
| 17:48.26 | vontrapp | Robdor: yep |
| 17:49.08 | Robdor | Is your file in the von users home? |
| 17:49.34 | vontrapp | i was actually trying to open /home/otheruser/file |
| 17:49.43 | vontrapp | using von@host//blahblah |
| 17:50.07 | vontrapp | but i also tried opening a new file, it just says access denied and asks for the password again |
| 17:50.29 | vontrapp | i know the user and password are valid |
| 17:50.41 | Robdor | does the von user have permissions to that file? |
| 17:51.24 | vontrapp | the test file yes |
| 17:51.32 | vontrapp | the other file i'm not sure |
| 17:52.51 | Robdor | can you just do an scp from the command line and make it work? |
| 17:55.36 | redman1 | tensai: thanks for the message. you rock. |
| 17:55.45 | tensai | interesting. google groups appears to be verifying spf for inbound messages |
| 17:56.23 | tensai | redman1: sure. I'd like a good foodie club. |
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| 18:00.23 | levi | Huh, anyone go to the UPUG meeting on Noodle? |
| 18:05.01 | redman1 | tensai: spf? |
| 18:05.18 | elg | -lart redman1 and tensai |
| 18:05.26 | redman1 | ew! |
| 18:06.20 | tensai | ~spf |
| 18:06.22 | ibot | rumour has it, spf is a single point of failure, or a very stupid anti-forgery technique whose IETF working group was abandoned. See http://david.woodhou.se/why-not-spf.html |
| 18:06.37 | tensai | gee, that's not biased |
| 18:07.44 | tensai | ibot: no, spf is Sender Policy Framework, a DNS-based system of email verification. see http://www.openspf.org/ |
| 18:07.45 | ibot | okay, tensai |
| 18:09.19 | sjansen | gee, that's not biased |
| 18:10.43 | sjansen | ibot: no, spr is Sender Policy Framework, a controversial DNS-based system of email verification. See http://www.openspf.org/ and http://david.woodhou.se/why-not-spf.html |
| 18:10.44 | ibot | okay, sjansen |
| 18:10.49 | sjansen | oops |
| 18:10.51 | sjansen | spr: sorry |
| 18:11.00 | sjansen | ibot: no, spf is Sender Policy Framework, a controversial DNS-based system of email verification. See http://www.openspf.org/ and http://david.woodhou.se/why-not-spf.htm |
| 18:11.01 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 18:11.11 | sjansen | spr: Might want to lock your factoid... |
| 18:11.20 | tensai | locking has been disabled |
| 18:11.34 | sjansen | that stinks, there's good reasons for locking |
| 18:11.39 | findlay | ~lock and give the key to the UK government |
| 18:11.46 | sjansen | like avoiding stupid typos |
| 18:12.16 | findlay | after all, only pedophiles and terrorists use encryption |
| 18:12.26 | sjansen | ibot: no, spr is A scholar, a gentleman and a guster fan. |
| 18:12.28 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 18:19.07 | sjansen | http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html <-- so far my favorite is programmer-6 |
| 18:19.09 | brac | [You Might Be An Anti-Spam Kook If...] |
| 18:19.24 | sjansen | er, programmer-5 |
| 18:19.26 | tensai | sjansen: I would guess it was being abuse to timr disabled it. you could ask him I'm sure. |
| 18:19.33 | tensai | s/to/so/ |
| 18:22.38 | findlay | s/today the keys/tomorrow the world/ |
| 18:23.13 | sjansen | http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/papers/a1-firewall/ |
| 18:23.14 | brac | [Marcus J. Ranum] |
| 18:23.20 | [Utah]tristanbob | anyone know when the ubuntu preview is released? |
| 18:23.26 | tensai | wow. a new awstats remote exploit. is anyone surprised? |
| 18:24.07 | [Utah]tristanbob | awstats - why do you have so many issues?? |
| 18:24.22 | findlay | ~issue awstats |
| 18:24.58 | [Utah]tristanbob | with it being so popular, you would think they would do a security audit |
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| 18:26.54 | sjansen | [Utah]tristanbob: That's like say, with PHPNuke being so popular, you think they'd do a security audit. |
| 18:27.13 | sjansen | Some software is deeply flawed from inception and can only be fixed by starting again from scratch. |
| 18:27.29 | [Utah]tristanbob | I see |
| 18:27.42 | sjansen | (Generally by someone else because whoever made the mistakes the first time will probably just repeat them the second time.) |
| 18:31.18 | elg | anyone got win98 handy? or win ME? |
| 18:31.25 | elg | what about w2k? |
| 18:31.32 | maquis | elg: why would anyone have those around |
| 18:31.46 | elg | because they're more insane than I? |
| 18:32.03 | tensai | elg: don't do that to yourself. there's still hope left in this world, don't give up! |
| 18:32.07 | elg | google isn't being too helpful about whether those should play GSM WAV files out of the box |
| 18:32.09 | maquis | elg: well... yeah... they'd have to be pretty crazy |
| 18:32.17 | maquis | particularly if they had ME... |
| 18:34.06 | phinux | Anyone here going to actually fess up to having those lying around? |
| 18:34.44 | phinux | Actually, I probably have my old 98 CDs in a stack somewhere...I never throw things away. |
| 18:35.20 | sjansen | elg: ebay |
| 18:35.29 | elg | -lart sjansen |
| 18:35.43 | sjansen | NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111 |
| 18:35.58 | maquis | -lart sjansen |
| 18:36.27 | sjansen | ~travolta #utah |
| 18:36.28 | ibot | ACTION replaces #utah with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 18:40.53 | tensai | elg: I've got 98 on a box at home. I can probably be coerced into booting it up. |
| 18:41.17 | tensai | elg: it's never been on a network, so it hasn't ever been updated |
| 18:41.59 | tensai | ~unplugged |
| 18:42.00 | ibot | somebody said unplugged was the only safe way to use Windows |
| 18:42.34 | lars-ut | ~gozer |
| 18:42.36 | ibot | from memory, gozer is The Destructor. The Traveler, or a Gozerian, or a deity that got ghostbusted in 1984 |
| 18:42.37 | sjansen | not so, you forget data loss from blue screens |
| 18:42.45 | lars-ut | emulate gozer |
| 18:42.48 | lars-ut | ~emulate gozer |
| 18:42.51 | ibot | "During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveler came as a large, moving Torb. Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants they chose a new form for him--that of a giant Sloar. Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day, I can tell you." |
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| 18:53.31 | findlay | friends don't let friends use windows |
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| 18:54.32 | vontrapp | did i leave? |
| 18:54.39 | vontrapp | odd, don't know what happened to my window |
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| 19:09.39 | elg | why submit? |
| 19:18.44 | Jayce^ | our main sysadmin was complaining the other day about our office plants "reaching out to grab him" (real plant service, they are growing) |
| 19:18.59 | Jayce^ | so redman1, harleypig, and I just loaded quite a few of them into his office :) |
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| 19:25.06 | sjansen | ~rlart |
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| 19:29.57 | tensai | redman1: so set up a webcam in his office too |
| 19:39.58 | redman1 | tensai: if only we'd had time. |
| 19:42.24 | tensai | redman1: the fudge turned out super yummy. a little soft maybe, but not grainy |
| 19:42.56 | sjansen | ~steal tensai's fudge |
| 19:42.58 | ibot | ACTION grabs tensai's fudge and gives it to sjansen |
| 19:43.18 | vontrapp | hmmm, chest popping |
| 19:45.47 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: is this Dan Hanks by chance? |
| 19:46.45 | Jayce^ | who? |
| 19:46.51 | Jayce^ | the sysadmin? |
| 19:47.26 | redman1 | we wouldn't do something like that to dan. |
| 19:47.42 | Jayce^ | after all, he likes DCD |
| 19:47.43 | redman1 | because, you know, dan hasn't complained about the trees |
| 19:47.48 | redman1 | and he likes DCD |
| 19:48.32 | Uncle_Jesse | heh |
| 19:49.21 | Uncle_Jesse | we decorated one of the managers trees in his office with the red monkeys from the bucket 'o monkeys game at my last job |
| 19:49.40 | Uncle_Jesse | he never figured out who did it |
| 19:51.29 | Uncle_Jesse | Dan's cool |
| 19:52.04 | Uncle_Jesse | DCD, the CD player? |
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| 19:54.40 | redman1 | DCD = Dead Can Dance, one of my all-time top 5 favorite bands |
| 19:55.04 | levi | Ah, nice. |
| 19:55.10 | Uncle_Jesse | ah - cool |
| 19:55.13 | levi | I should listen to them again... I think I've got an album handy. |
| 19:55.15 | redman1 | levi: you know 'em? |
| 19:55.18 | levi | Yup. |
| 19:55.22 | redman1 | awesome |
| 19:55.30 | Uncle_Jesse | I probably like them - need to put a song with the group though |
| 19:55.32 | levi | I first heard of them back in the mid-90s when they got a little radio play. |
| 19:55.44 | redman1 | yeah, i loaned dan a copy of towards the within, and he's liked it so far |
| 19:55.57 | Uncle_Jesse | cool |
| 19:56.39 | Uncle_Jesse | reminds me of the days at OGF when I would kick Jayce^'s butt ;-) |
| 19:57.42 | levi | I have "A Passage in Time" |
| 19:59.37 | redman1 | levi: oh man. that was my first album of theirs. i have it sitting on my desk right now. |
| 19:59.46 | Jayce^ | Uncle_Jesse, riiiiiight |
| 19:59.55 | findlay | do you realize how hard it is to reach fourth finger on a 16 1/2 " viola with a finger like this? |
| 19:59.58 | Jayce^ | that must have been after I left, and you were still delusional |
| 20:00.25 | findlay | I guess my hands weren't designed to play the viola |
| 20:00.49 | elg | -lart redman1 |
| 20:01.36 | vontrapp | ~stretch findlay |
| 20:02.01 | vontrapp | ~spell stretch |
| 20:02.16 | findlay | ~stretch spell |
| 20:02.24 | vontrapp | ~spetch strell |
| 20:02.34 | vontrapp | say that five times fast |
| 20:03.08 | elg | say "fully" 10 times fast |
| 20:03.37 | vontrapp | why is that hard? |
| 20:03.39 | levi | Weird, I just started playing DCD and got a bunch of recommendations for Depeche Mode and Massive Attack tracks. |
| 20:03.54 | findlay | ~say that 5X fast |
| 20:03.57 | ibot | that 5X fast |
| 20:04.10 | tensai | vontrapp: elg didn't graduate 1st grade. he has a hard time with a lot of things |
| 20:04.15 | findlay | ibot: you're always up for a corny joke |
| 20:04.17 | elg | it's not hard, it just makes the word fully sound wierd |
| 20:04.42 | QBFreak | I am a geek, I was not designed for manual labor! |
| 20:05.38 | vontrapp | my brothers and i would form a line, each person about 10' apart |
| 20:05.47 | vontrapp | and we'd toss the logs |
| 20:05.49 | levi | Ah, it's suggesting Cocteau Twins now. That makes more sense. |
| 20:06.11 | Jayce^ | our house was wood fire heated... lots of logging |
| 20:06.16 | vontrapp | with protective gloves and long sleeves |
| 20:06.23 | QBFreak | I tried unsuccessfully to chase away a black rat snake |
| 20:06.36 | elg | it's still there/ |
| 20:06.47 | QBFreak | he got annoyed after he fell off the shovel the second time and crawled under the wood pile |
| 20:07.27 | QBFreak | not poisonous or anything, but I really don't want the dogs finding it and causing trouble |
| 20:07.49 | vontrapp | ~trouble dogs |
| 20:07.58 | tensai | ~dog trouble |
| 20:08.00 | ibot | ACTION stares at trouble until trouble whimpers and pees all over himself. |
| 20:09.58 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: I was pretty delusional after you left, could be |
| 20:10.01 | Uncle_Jesse | ~foosball Jayce^ |
| 20:10.02 | ibot | ACTION kicks the ball with a spin off the wall into Jayce^'s goal |
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| 20:11.10 | findlay | heh, firewood, that's nothing. Try stacking 90 pound bales for 3 hours |
| 20:12.08 | QBFreak | no thanks |
| 20:15.41 | Jayce^ | findlay, did that too |
| 20:15.48 | Jayce^ | findlay, and I'm allergic |
| 20:16.18 | Jayce^ | but still stacking a couple of cords, especially when you are doing the cutting, rates about the same |
| 20:16.20 | redman1 | Jayce^: so, jesse kick yer butt a lot at foosball? |
| 20:16.30 | Jayce^ | redman1, not a once |
| 20:27.20 | sjansen | Because Jayce^ cheats like nobody's business. |
| 20:27.45 | Uncle_Jesse | I beat him once or twice |
| 20:27.57 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^ is pretty good though |
| 20:28.08 | sjansen | My favorite was the time he "accidentally" dumped an entire slurpy on the table to avoid losing. |
| 20:28.09 | Uncle_Jesse | I got a lot better after he left |
| 20:29.10 | sjansen | Or the time he his leg "spasms" caused him to kick the table until one of the legs broke. |
| 20:29.50 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - he always wins. Can't figure out why ;-) |
| 20:30.00 | Jayce^ | sjansen, no that was *your* leg.. |
| 20:30.07 | sjansen | Or the time "he smelled smoke" so he pulled the fire alarm and sprinted out of the building just as he was about to finish a game without any goals. |
| 20:31.24 | sjansen | Or the time he suddenly ran off an grabbed a koosh gun because "somebody had just walked by and he needed to even an old score." |
| 20:32.22 | sjansen | Or the time he pretended to choke on a lemon drop. |
| 20:32.35 | sjansen | Or the time... |
| 20:33.01 | Uncle_Jesse | ~/o do you remember the time? ~/o |
| 20:33.02 | ibot | ACTION sings with uncle_jesse |
| 20:38.44 | goozbach | that time he "got mauled by a ravenous cubicle bear" |
| 20:39.23 | macnewbold | at least it wasn't a cubical bear, that would have been much worse |
| 20:39.40 | Jayce^ | cubical beer? |
| 20:41.56 | tensai | ~nerf Jayce^ |
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| 20:44.07 | Uncle_Jesse | ~beer Jayce^ |
| 20:44.08 | ibot | ACTION pours a quart of La Maudite for Jayce^ |
| 20:44.27 | Uncle_Jesse | ~cubical Jayce^ |
| 20:44.40 | QBFreak | endless redirect loop, oops |
| 20:45.15 | tensai | I've done that before. the MTA will notice after a few iterations. |
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| 20:46.00 | QBFreak | I killed it after about a minute |
| 20:46.15 | Uncle_Jesse | has anyone seen any more spam from me on OpenClue? I think I fixed it, but you never know. |
| 20:48.00 | Jayce^ | not recently, we'll ban you next time we see it |
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| 20:50.11 | goozbach | Jayce^: cubical bear = bear^3 |
| 20:51.15 | macnewbold | no, no, no... a cubical bear is one that has about 6 sides, and about 8 corners |
| 20:52.29 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: thx |
| 20:52.38 | findlay | hypercubical |
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| 20:53.23 | brac | [Music thing: vPipes: Super-hot MIDI bagpipes] |
| 20:53.52 | elg | ibot, do you like bagpipes? |
| 20:53.53 | ibot | yes, I like bagpipes. |
| 20:53.57 | elg | good |
| 20:54.10 | elg | ibot, do you like Jayce^? |
| 20:54.11 | ibot | yes, I like Jayce^. |
| 20:54.16 | mheath | ibot, do you hate bagpipes? |
| 20:54.18 | ibot | yes, I hate bagpipes. |
| 20:54.24 | mheath | Better, ibot. |
| 20:55.20 | [Utah]tristanbob | we all have to admit that Ubuntu update servers are the bomb - 800+ KB/s |
| 20:55.37 | mheath | indeed. |
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| 21:00.05 | mheath | I have fallen in love with this laptop |
| 21:00.51 | ^Migs^ | are you going to put pink heart and yellow sunshine stickers all ove rit? |
| 21:01.08 | ^Migs^ | cuz I think you should |
| 21:01.43 | mheath | yeah, I'll get right on that. |
| 21:01.59 | herlo | ~funny ^Migs^ |
| 21:02.02 | QBFreak | gonna get it flowers or chocolates or something? |
| 21:02.08 | ^Migs^ | I have a bunch of Hello Kitty stickers here, in fact |
| 21:02.18 | ^Migs^ | oh yeah, do that. JUst don't move too fast. You don't want to drive it away. |
| 21:02.29 | mheath | OMG, can I like totally have some, ^Migs^?! |
| 21:02.44 | ^Migs^ | no, my kids would kick you in the shins |
| 21:03.11 | Uncle_Jesse | ~meow |
| 21:03.13 | ibot | jbot: woem |
| 21:03.47 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone tried an infinite conversation between brac and ibot? |
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| 21:03.55 | ^Migs^ | that would be cool |
| 21:04.15 | Uncle_Jesse | talk to brac is <reply>brac: you're cool |
| 21:04.32 | QBFreak | you need to address ibot |
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| 21:04.34 | Uncle_Jesse | you're cool is <reply>ibot: no, you're cool |
| 21:04.37 | tensai | Uncle_Jesse: yes, ask maquis. please don't do it again. |
| 21:04.43 | QBFreak | heh |
| 21:04.53 | ^Migs^ | I'd like to see an infinite conversation betwen brac and ibot, but with some randomness thrown in |
| 21:04.55 | Uncle_Jesse | no, you're cool is <reply>brac:no, you're cool |
| 21:05.05 | mheath[laptop] | ibot: talk to brac is <reply>brac: you're cool |
| 21:05.07 | ibot | mheath[laptop]: okay |
| 21:05.17 | mheath[laptop] | bracc: you're cool is <reply>ibot: no, you're cool |
| 21:05.19 | QBFreak | mheath[laptop]: don't do it |
| 21:05.26 | mheath[laptop] | brac: you're cool is <reply>ibot: no, you're cool |
| 21:05.26 | brac | aight |
| 21:05.32 | mheath[laptop] | I'm not going to :) |
| 21:05.45 | Uncle_Jesse | note that I didn't do it :-) |
| 21:05.50 | QBFreak | ibot: forget talk to brac |
| 21:05.51 | ibot | QBFreak: i forgot talk to brac |
| 21:06.02 | mheath[laptop] | haha |
| 21:06.10 | Uncle_Jesse | wouldn't they eventually crash each other? |
| 21:06.13 | mheath[laptop] | 28% of Open Office downloaded |
| 21:06.15 | mheath[laptop] | Probably |
| 21:06.17 | Uncle_Jesse | blootbot crashes easily |
| 21:06.18 | ^Migs^ | or crash us |
| 21:06.24 | tensai | your attempt would have failed anyway |
| 21:06.27 | ^Migs^ | or crash the INTERNET |
| 21:06.34 | ^Migs^ | OMG |
| 21:06.40 | mheath[laptop] | omg, ^Migs^, like, that would totally suck! |
| 21:06.45 | ^Migs^ | I KNOW! |
| 21:06.48 | mheath[laptop] | My MySpace profile would be GONE! |
| 21:06.50 | tensai | a) timriker already set ibot to ignore brac |
| 21:06.54 | ^Migs^ | OH NOES |
| 21:06.57 | macnewbold | ibot won't loop with itself, but we _have_ managed to get it to mutually loop with another bot... |
| 21:07.03 | Uncle_Jesse | tensai: lol |
| 21:07.09 | tensai | b) ibot throttles responses. she won't respond to the same thing more than once every 10 seconds, iirc |
| 21:07.13 | mheath[laptop] | ibot: say ibot: say test |
| 21:07.14 | ibot | ibot: say test |
| 21:07.19 | mheath[laptop] | :( |
| 21:07.27 | tensai | c) ibot ignores herself |
| 21:07.30 | ^Migs^ | could we set up a finite conversation between brac and ibot then? |
| 21:07.31 | Uncle_Jesse | tensai: I dare you to try it |
| 21:07.49 | ^Migs^ | or is that not allowed, too? |
| 21:08.05 | mheath[laptop] | ibot: talk to brac is <reply>brac: you're cool |
| 21:08.06 | ibot | okay, mheath[laptop] |
| 21:08.12 | Uncle_Jesse | I run a bot I could put in here |
| 21:08.19 | Uncle_Jesse | you guys would hate me though |
| 21:08.20 | mheath[laptop] | tensai: are you willing to risk it? =P |
| 21:08.27 | ^Migs^ | I think we should all bring our bots in here |
| 21:08.28 | Uncle_Jesse | if you don't already |
| 21:08.42 | Uncle_Jesse | ^Migs^: you could try it in #botpark |
| 21:08.47 | tensai | hey, I'm not the one trying to get myself kickbanned |
| 21:08.56 | QBFreak | seeing as only nightmarebot and myself are there |
| 21:08.58 | QBFreak | err #NightMAREbot |
| 21:09.04 | Uncle_Jesse | tensai: no, we're trying to get you kickbanned |
| 21:09.05 | Uncle_Jesse | ;-) |
| 21:09.22 | mheath[laptop] | brac isn't in #botpark, is he? |
| 21:09.22 | brac | no idea |
| 21:09.24 | ^Migs^ | would there be any wrong with setting up a perfectly innocuous finite conversation between brac and ibot? |
| 21:09.25 | tensai | Uncle_Jesse: you may have missed the part where I'm not that stupid |
| 21:09.28 | mheath[laptop] | brac: join #botpark |
| 21:09.28 | brac | insufficient "join" auth (have 10, need 50) |
| 21:09.30 | ^Migs^ | like they talk about current events or something |
| 21:09.37 | mheath[laptop] | brac: #botpark |
| 21:10.34 | mheath[laptop] | ~talk to brac |
| 21:10.35 | ibot | brac: you're cool |
| 21:10.43 | mheath[laptop] | rats. |
| 21:10.52 | QBFreak | ^Migs^: its called spam, some people are annoyed by it |
| 21:11.03 | ^Migs^ | well some people need to lighten up |
| 21:11.15 | mheath[laptop] | ^Migs^, there you go, it doesn't work anyway. |
| 21:12.12 | mheath[laptop] | How long does it take to drive from Ogden to Riverton? |
| 21:12.14 | mheath[laptop] | Anyone know? |
| 21:12.26 | mheath[laptop] | ~60 Minutes? Thats what google maps is suggesting........... |
| 21:12.27 | ibot | that's too long, mheath[laptop] |
| 21:12.42 | mheath[laptop] | ibot, thanks. |
| 21:12.42 | ibot | gern geschehen, mheath[laptop] |
| 21:12.53 | mheath[laptop] | ibot, how long/ |
| 21:12.56 | mheath[laptop] | ? |
| 21:13.18 | Uncle_Jesse | ~distance Ogden to Riverton |
| 21:13.30 | mheath[laptop] | Well, more like Ogden to Point of the Mountain, I guess. |
| 21:13.45 | bertbob | what time of the day? |
| 21:13.51 | mheath[laptop] | Early morning. |
| 21:13.59 | mheath[laptop] | Need to be there by 7:30AM. |
| 21:14.02 | bertbob | HAFB rush hour about 7am |
| 21:14.08 | mheath[laptop] | On a saturday, so there won't be much rush |
| 21:15.05 | mheath[laptop] | bertbob, I'll be taking US-89 to I-15 |
| 21:15.12 | mheath[laptop] | I'll avoid most HAFB rush |
| 21:15.27 | mheath[laptop] | Besides, I'm going the other way =P |
| 21:15.36 | bertbob | lots of lights on 89, but about an hour would seem right |
| 21:16.40 | mheath[laptop] | Nah, the lights aren't bad. I go up that way (just to Fort Douglas, near UoU, though) once a month, I hardly ever hit the lights. |
| 21:17.59 | bertbob | if "time is of the essence" you should allow for stopping at all the lights...and so what if you're a bit early |
| 21:21.18 | ^Migs^ | if you're early, you could stop at Wendy's or something |
| 21:22.12 | mrpull- | mheath[laptop]: what are you doing at the point of the mountain? |
| 21:22.20 | mrpull- | hang gliding? |
| 21:22.28 | mheath[laptop] | mrpull-: I'm going to be out at Camp Williams all weekend. |
| 21:23.04 | mrpull- | do you know there isn't a road straight from I-15 to camp williams? :) |
| 21:23.28 | mheath[laptop] | Yes, I know. |
| 21:23.37 | mheath[laptop] | Exit 293 |
| 21:23.49 | mheath[laptop] | West to Redwood Road, then left |
| 21:23.56 | mrpull- | redwood road moves a little slower than I-15 |
| 21:24.06 | mrpull- | but shouldn't have any traffic on saturday morning |
| 21:24.10 | bertbob | out there it's 55 though |
| 21:24.20 | mheath[laptop] | I'm on it for all of 4 miles, too. |
| 21:24.24 | Jayce^ | coming from the north you would want to do bangerter to redwood |
| 21:24.32 | Jayce^ | it's a clean drive |
| 21:24.37 | mheath[laptop] | Jayce^, Yep. |
| 21:24.47 | mrpull- | but since you ask for timing to Point of the Mountain, you should add a little time for the last couple legs of your tour |
| 21:24.48 | mheath[laptop] | <mheath[laptop]> West to Redwood Road, then left\ |
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| 21:25.05 | mheath[laptop] | Well, I'm supposed to be there by 7:30 |
| 21:25.20 | mheath[laptop] | but I'm thinking I'll leave at 6:15 |
| 21:25.26 | mheath[laptop] | So I can be there a little early. |
| 21:25.29 | mrpull- | being late sucks. leave at 6. |
| 21:25.39 | mheath[laptop] | mrpull-: I'm aiming to be early :) |
| 21:25.40 | bertbob | better get in the habit: hurry up and wait |
| 21:25.40 | bertbob | LOL |
| 21:25.47 | mheath[laptop] | It's going to be interesting |
| 21:26.09 | mheath[laptop] | This is the last time I'm drilling with my jrotc-like group before I go into the 'real' military. |
| 21:26.18 | mheath[laptop] | But we did a big recruiting thing....... |
| 21:26.31 | mheath[laptop] | We have 18+ new people coming. And I get to be in charge of half of them. |
| 21:27.20 | Jayce^ | mheath[laptop], too bad you guys are comign on a fun weekend when they have us 'training' you whelps again :) |
| 21:27.38 | Jayce^ | some of your trainers at williams will be the people we dealt with |
| 21:27.43 | Jayce^ | and one of my team members |
| 21:28.02 | mheath[laptop] | We're not doing much with them, just using their facilties. |
| 21:28.44 | mheath[laptop] | they'll give us safety and utilization briefings for using their rifle range and repelling tower, but thats ti. |
| 21:30.21 | mheath[laptop] | Jayce^, I'm confused about what you meant with your first statement, though. |
| 21:30.52 | mheath[laptop] | The "too bad you guys are comign on a fun weekend when they have us 'training' you whelps again :)" |
| 21:32.38 | mheath[laptop] | Jayce^, care to clarify for me? |
| 21:33.02 | mheath[laptop] | What do you mean "you" are training "us whelps"? |
| 21:34.22 | Jayce^ | they had 4 groups of kids like you that we gave 'special' training to |
| 21:34.27 | Jayce^ | down at green river |
| 21:35.15 | mheath[laptop] | Ah. O.o |
| 21:36.08 | nick125 | The maximum number of 5 login attempts has been exceeded. You are not allowed to login for the next 30 minutes. |
| 21:36.18 | nick125 | phpbb just locked me out of my own forums |
| 21:36.24 | nick125 | -_- |
| 21:36.57 | tensai | ah, phpbb. another php app coded in the tradition of phpNuke. |
| 21:37.05 | Jayce^ | nick125, just use one of the many rootkit hacks against it to gain access |
| 21:37.11 | nick125 | good idea |
| 21:37.46 | levi | Ahh, php. |
| 21:37.51 | tensai | or set the time on the server ahead by 30 minutes |
| 21:38.16 | QBFreak | or use something else? :) |
| 21:38.46 | QBFreak | later mheath[laptop] |
| 21:39.26 | findlay | doesn't autocomplet the words you're thinking, I know |
| 21:39.38 | findlay | I've been thinking on writing a patch |
| 21:40.18 | findlay | ~rlart |
| 21:40.28 | QBFreak | it'd be even better if you could get it to autocomplete that patch for you too |
| 21:40.45 | findlay | hey, that would be nice |
| 21:41.00 | findlay | there's probably a CPAN module for that |
| 21:41.24 | QBFreak | "ok, I'm thinking of some code... TAB" *autofill* "awesome!" |
| 21:51.31 | mrpull- | Uncle_Jesse: what did you buy? |
| 21:51.44 | Uncle_Jesse | got the Motorola MPX220 |
| 21:51.54 | Uncle_Jesse | needed something small |
| 21:51.54 | mrpull- | ahh.. those are great |
| 21:52.08 | mrpull- | i've got an SX-66... it is a great PDA, but a huge phone |
| 21:52.20 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm curious to see if pocketputty works on here |
| 21:52.28 | mrpull- | i'm considering Cingular's 2125 |
| 21:52.37 | mrpull- | i like having the touch screen |
| 21:52.38 | Uncle_Jesse | mrpull-: yeah - I'm replacing my ipaq with it |
| 21:52.49 | Uncle_Jesse | ipaq was just too big and hard to use as a phone |
| 21:53.09 | Uncle_Jesse | all the touch screens that fit my requirements were too expensive |
| 21:53.10 | mrpull- | syncing with exchange is sweet (granted you already have exchange) |
| 21:53.30 | Uncle_Jesse | almost went with the Ericsson p900 but it didn't have a good enough camera |
| 21:53.57 | Uncle_Jesse | mrpull-: I'm going to get it working with synce, so Exchange/Outlook doesn't matter to me |
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| 21:57.34 | mrpull- | i'd probably dump exchange if it weren't for our smart phones |
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| 21:59.51 | mrpull- | Uncle_Jesse: was it you that was looking at Zimbra? |
| 22:00.20 | Uncle_Jesse | mrpull-: we use it as our mail server here at backcountry |
| 22:00.29 | Uncle_Jesse | it's awesome |
| 22:00.36 | mrpull- | does anybody use outlook as the front end? |
| 22:00.40 | Uncle_Jesse | there is absolutely no need for Exchange now |
| 22:00.47 | Uncle_Jesse | mrpull-: yeah - probably most of our non-developers |
| 22:01.01 | Uncle_Jesse | the new version even has resource scheduling |
| 22:01.11 | Uncle_Jesse | aka reserving conference rooms, etc |
| 22:01.25 | Uncle_Jesse | PDA sync via web interface too |
| 22:01.29 | mrpull- | nice. if it only supported over the air syncing with WM devices |
| 22:01.32 | mrpull- | oooh it does? |
| 22:01.34 | Uncle_Jesse | (supposedly - haven't tried it) |
| 22:02.32 | Uncle_Jesse | mrpull-: yeah - check out the latest release notes |
| 22:02.34 | Uncle_Jesse | We're getting ready to install the latest ver. here |
| 22:02.34 | mrpull- | holy cow. i looked at it just a couple months back |
| 22:02.34 | Uncle_Jesse | I'll let you know how it goes |
| 22:02.57 | Uncle_Jesse | their developers listen :-) |
| 22:02.57 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm looking into writing some Thunderbird extensions for it |
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| 22:02.58 | mrpull- | looks like treo OTA syncing |
| 22:03.22 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - seems like certain devices at least |
| 22:03.33 | mrpull- | how does the pricing compare? |
| 22:03.39 | mrpull- | to Exchange? |
| 22:03.40 | Uncle_Jesse | mrpull-: it's free |
| 22:03.44 | Uncle_Jesse | OSS |
| 22:03.52 | Uncle_Jesse | They probably have support licenses |
| 22:04.10 | mrpull- | my understanding was the MAPI stuff was commercial |
| 22:05.08 | mrpull- | it's good to hear it is working well for you. |
| 22:05.29 | findlay | device drivers are so 80's |
| 22:05.52 | Uncle_Jesse | mrpull-: shmooze them and work out a deal on the MAPI stuff |
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| 22:06.27 | mrpull- | Uncle_Jesse: i'm not against paying for OSS stuff... |
| 22:06.50 | mrpull- | i've got another year of MS licensing and support before I'd make any moves |
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| 22:07.32 | Uncle_Jesse | mrpull-: yeah - I'm sure it's way cheaper than Exchange though |
| 22:07.33 | mrpull- | Uncle_Jesse: are you using LDAP for user admin? |
| 22:07.38 | Uncle_Jesse | mrpull-: not at the moment, but it's in our plans I believe |
| 22:07.49 | Uncle_Jesse | It's even more powerful with LDAP so I hear |
| 22:08.33 | mrpull- | it's an unpopular opinion around these parts, but the MS Stack works really well for my needs |
| 22:08.47 | Uncle_Jesse | mrpull-: it used to be the only option too |
| 22:08.56 | Uncle_Jesse | and Zimbra isn't fully up there yet |
| 22:09.04 | Uncle_Jesse | they've got a lot of support though |
| 22:09.18 | Uncle_Jesse | Our CTO just talked them up in CIO Magazine |
| 22:09.24 | mrpull- | i like the inevitable pressure it will give MS |
| 22:09.41 | mrpull- | you guys have gotten some good press for using OSS lately |
| 22:09.45 | mrpull- | good for you |
| 22:09.49 | mrpull- | and good for OSS |
| 22:09.53 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - we're big on using it at least |
| 22:10.14 | mrpull- | did I see an article on newsforge or somewhere else too? |
| 22:10.16 | Uncle_Jesse | supposedly we're big on giving back |
| 22:10.22 | Uncle_Jesse | mrpull-: yeah |
| 22:11.02 | Uncle_Jesse | everything I've tried to give back has been held back by executives as too much Intellectual Property |
| 22:11.12 | Uncle_Jesse | our CTO promotes it where he can though |
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| 22:11.47 | findlay | I hate it when my mind is owned by the company |
| 22:12.18 | Uncle_Jesse | findlay: heh |
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| 22:20.01 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 22:20.56 | findlay | ~sleep |
| 22:20.57 | ibot | [sleep] overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
| 22:21.29 | tyce | anyone know when the next surplus sale is going to be? |
| 22:23.08 | bonez39 | sjansen, thanks..I love kittens........and their little friends..;) |
| 22:25.29 | findlay | ibot: whatever, caffeine is just one class away crom niccotine |
| 22:25.31 | ibot | findlay: I think you lost me on that one |
| 22:25.44 | findlay | I'm not surprised |
| 22:26.44 | Hhhhh | the last two surplus sales were nuts! |
| 22:26.48 | Hhhhh | SO many ppl |
| 22:27.13 | Hhhhh | I bought a PII laptop there |
| 22:27.34 | Uncle_Jesse | and mobo |
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| 22:27.58 | jsmith | Uncle_Jesse: I'll sell you one... |
| 22:28.07 | Uncle_Jesse | jsmith: how much? |
| 22:28.16 | Hhhhh | Uncle_Jesse, I have a Athlon 64 3500+ in a Gigabyte K8 Triton mobo |
| 22:28.18 | Hhhhh | very nice |
| 22:28.24 | Hhhhh | that's a nice mobo btw |
| 22:28.26 | jsmith | Hhhhh: That's what I have... |
| 22:28.39 | Uncle_Jesse | except I may not be able to afford either |
| 22:28.52 | Hhhhh | Gigabyte GA-K8N Ultra-SLI |
| 22:29.02 | Hhhhh | it must run for about $150 |
| 22:29.05 | Hhhhh | maybe less now |
| 22:30.13 | Hhhhh | nice mobo, it will support even new 64 bit chips |
| 22:30.26 | Hhhhh | not that 64-bit matters, but because they're fast and run cold |
| 22:30.39 | jsmith | Hhhhh: Yeah, like the dual-core chip I have in my other one ;-) |
| 22:30.43 | Hhhhh | nice |
| 22:31.30 | Hhhhh | how good is dual-core? do you need to use multi-threaded apps in order to get a reral advantage? |
| 22:31.34 | Hhhhh | real* |
| 22:31.39 | sjansen | perl perl perl |
| 22:31.58 | Hhhhh | perl? |
| 22:32.00 | levi | You just need to run more than one process at the same time. |
| 22:32.05 | nick125 | yeah |
| 22:32.09 | nick125 | it needs to be threaded |
| 22:32.15 | sjansen | Hhhhh: Just trying to invoke fozzmoo. |
| 22:32.21 | Uncle_Jesse | Yeah - I'm starting to think dual-core may be for me |
| 22:32.44 | Hhhhh | Uncle_Jesse, as of right now, it depends on what you want |
| 22:32.45 | findlay | what about trial core? |
| 22:32.47 | levi | Any given application will not run faster unless it uses multiple threads, but you can run two applications without as much as a performance hit. |
| 22:32.48 | findlay | (: |
| 22:33.10 | Hhhhh | if you want raw power (for games, etc), I'd go for a single-core, revved up athlon fx |
| 22:33.12 | Uncle_Jesse | Hhhhh: I want something that will record TV shows at the same time I'm working on it without slowing down the record time |
| 22:33.16 | levi | findlay: Those are the upgrade to the duel core, not the dual core. |
| 22:33.19 | findlay | fourple core, fiple core, etc. |
| 22:33.19 | sjansen | Which means you can surf the Web and chat on IRC without slowing down! |
| 22:33.20 | Uncle_Jesse | I've got a decent Video card already |
| 22:33.31 | Hhhhh | if you want multitasking, then dual-core might be a good option |
| 22:33.35 | Uncle_Jesse | This is actually for my Winblows box |
| 22:33.36 | Hhhhh | Uncle_Jesse, which one? |
| 22:33.49 | Uncle_Jesse | Hhhhh: Radeon 9600 - good enough for me |
| 22:33.59 | Uncle_Jesse | definitely could get better though |
| 22:34.02 | Uncle_Jesse | 9600 AIW |
| 22:34.12 | Hhhhh | you could get a Geforce 6200 for dirt cheap |
| 22:34.53 | Uncle_Jesse | Yeah - I like the AIW's though |
| 22:35.39 | Uncle_Jesse | at least for a Windows box |
| 22:35.54 | Uncle_Jesse | I run Media Center Edition, so need *lots* of processing power |
| 22:36.24 | Uncle_Jesse | My goal is to get a bunch of Media Center extenders and several tuner cards |
| 22:36.33 | Uncle_Jesse | so I can replace my ReplayTV |
| 22:38.00 | nick125 | get a few hauppage cards and pop them into a mythtv box |
| 22:40.02 | tyce | ^seconded |
| 22:40.16 | Uncle_Jesse | nick125: and where can I get extenders that I can hook up to TVs throughout the house that will sync with the main media box? |
| 22:40.24 | Uncle_Jesse | that aren't full computers |
| 22:41.07 | findlay | ibot: why am I so tired? |
| 22:41.38 | nick125 | Uncle_Jesse: not sure...get really cheap shuttle boxes, hook them up with NFS or something |
| 22:41.56 | Uncle_Jesse | nick125: I want an appliance though - M$ has Linux beat in this arena unfortunately |
| 22:42.06 | Uncle_Jesse | perhaps eventually |
| 22:42.08 | tyce | how cheap are the extender boxes that use media center? |
| 22:42.18 | Uncle_Jesse | tyce: $100 to $200 |
| 22:42.23 | Uncle_Jesse | same as a Tivo |
| 22:42.33 | Uncle_Jesse | but they sync and don't have a monthly fee |
| 22:42.42 | tyce | you can build mythboxes that cheap that just play the content recorded on your main box |
| 22:42.59 | Uncle_Jesse | I can pull photos, downloaded videos, music, access the web, watch, pause, play, rewind, and record live TV, etc. |
| 22:43.17 | Uncle_Jesse | tyce: but I want an appliance, not a full box |
| 22:43.29 | Uncle_Jesse | no need for a harddrive |
| 22:43.48 | tyce | so don't put a harddrive in there |
| 22:43.49 | Uncle_Jesse | Just need a ROM that loads the software and connects to a network essentially |
| 22:44.02 | tyce | run it off a flash drive |
| 22:44.11 | Uncle_Jesse | that's all still a hack though |
| 22:44.25 | nick125 | anyone here up for bzflag? |
| 22:44.32 | tyce | right, but you can all that you wanted + more on a mythbox |
| 22:44.54 | Uncle_Jesse | tyce: agreed, but they're not up to where Windows is yet in regards to hardware |
| 22:45.02 | tyce | personally, I think skipping commercials with a single button is well worth the effort. |
| 22:45.29 | tyce | you are correct though, as far as ease of use... media center is brainless |
| 22:45.50 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - I don't want to spend a ton of time on my TV |
| 22:45.55 | Uncle_Jesse | maybe my computer, but not my TV |
| 22:46.13 | Uncle_Jesse | the TV is for relaxing, sitting down, and thinking of nothing :-) |
| 22:46.29 | tyce | which is what you do with a mythbox |
| 22:46.36 | tyce | (after the initial setup) ;) |
| 22:47.01 | tyce | if anything, there is less thinking involved -- no need to fast forward thru commercials |
| 22:47.16 | Uncle_Jesse | tyce: yes, *after* the initial setup, and the initial setup of 5 other boxes, plus the purchase of the hardware for the additional boxes, and the setup of the hardware :-) |
| 22:47.27 | Uncle_Jesse | okay, 3 other boxes |
| 22:47.37 | Uncle_Jesse | I don't have *that* many TVs |
| 22:47.49 | tyce | yep, then it's just a brainless only twice as rewarding ;) |
| 22:48.13 | Uncle_Jesse | until a new distro comes out or a new version of MythTV comes out :) |
| 22:48.30 | Uncle_Jesse | I would love a small appliance with a firmware I could just flash |
| 22:48.37 | Uncle_Jesse | like the LinkSys routers |
| 22:49.55 | Uncle_Jesse | It would be cool if someone would hack the ReplayTV to do that :-) |
| 22:49.58 | Uncle_Jesse | or the Tivo |
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