| 00:04.51 | nick125_lappy | wewt! |
| 00:04.55 | nick125_lappy | I got a bzflag server setup! |
| 00:04.59 | nick125_lappy | anyone want to join me? |
| 00:07.11 | nick125_lappy | noc.atarack.com:5154! |
| 00:07.14 | nick125_lappy | :) |
| 00:07.20 | nick125_lappy | (for anyone that wants to join me) |
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| 00:26.14 | dilvie | what's bzflag? |
| 00:26.28 | nick125 | a game |
| 00:26.29 | nick125 | :) |
| 00:26.34 | goozbach | hmm |
| 00:26.37 | dilvie | I guessed that much. |
| 00:26.48 | nick125 | its a tank game |
| 00:26.49 | elg | TimRiker maintains it |
| 00:27.03 | elg | he didn't write it per se, but more or less in its current incarnation |
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| 00:50.04 | nick125 | thats odd, my server isnt showing up on the server list any more.. |
| 00:56.50 | tensai | -lart elg |
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| 02:02.30 | dilvie | uh.. |
| 02:02.36 | dilvie | elg: where's my .dll? |
| 02:02.49 | elg | thought you said mac? |
| 02:03.15 | elg | hmm, do you have a build environment on windows? |
| 02:03.20 | dilvie | I have both mac and pc |
| 02:03.28 | elg | what I sent you is a mac vst bundle |
| 02:03.34 | dilvie | yes, I have a build environment.. don't you have a win build environment? |
| 02:03.49 | elg | Well I have VS stashed away in some closet |
| 02:03.55 | elg | and a windows box I can access through vnc |
| 02:04.02 | elg | they haven't met yet |
| 02:04.03 | elg | :) |
| 02:04.06 | dilvie | haha |
| 02:04.18 | dilvie | I should introduce you to vmware sometime. |
| 02:04.36 | elg | is mac ok? |
| 02:04.59 | elg | stick it in ~/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST/ |
| 02:05.12 | elg | (the Haas.vst folder) |
| 02:06.12 | elg | how much is vmware? |
| 02:06.30 | dilvie | well, kindof -- it's okay for some simple stuff, I guess, but my primary machine is windows, and I haven't got all the neat audio utilities and such on my mac yet. |
| 02:06.49 | dilvie | for example, I just switched to ableton live -- I haven't got it for mac, yet. |
| 02:07.09 | dilvie | vmware is free |
| 02:07.12 | elg | well I'll send you the code and you can do what you like with it |
| 02:07.14 | dilvie | you need a key |
| 02:07.23 | elg | next week I can get set up to build it |
| 02:07.24 | dilvie | but they don't charge money for it. |
| 02:07.36 | elg | for vmware? I thought they did |
| 02:08.50 | dilvie | http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ |
| 02:08.51 | brac | [Download | VMware Server] |
| 02:09.50 | elg | wow. why didn't anyone tell me? |
| 02:11.00 | nick125 | hey.. |
| 02:11.06 | nick125 | anyone here know how to change the map in bzflag? |
| 02:11.46 | elg | in bzflag itself I'm not sure if you can specify a world, but check out the bzfs manpage |
| 02:13.33 | elg | now if I just had disk space |
| 02:20.35 | nick125 | anyone here know the default maps with bzflag? |
| 02:22.03 | elg | isn't it just randomM? |
| 02:25.00 | nick125 | yeah.. |
| 02:25.05 | nick125 | whats a good bzflag map? |
| 02:25.20 | elg | i always liked stonehenge |
| 02:25.22 | elg | with low gravity |
| 02:25.31 | elg | and/or high jumping |
| 02:27.28 | nick125 | any others? |
| 02:27.48 | elg | see which maps are popular on the server list |
| 02:27.53 | nick125 | I cant find a recent version of that map |
| 02:28.07 | elg | recent as in |
| 02:28.24 | nick125 | I can't find a place to download it either |
| 02:32.36 | elg | hans.fugal.net/tmp/stonehenge.bzw |
| 02:44.58 | nick125 | anyone here got bzflag installed and wanna get their butt kicked? |
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| 03:02.02 | levi_ | Gah, this datasheet is difficult to interpret. |
| 03:12.58 | elg | hmm, libsigc++ looks pretty cool |
| 03:23.58 | levi_ | What is it? |
| 03:25.08 | elg | a callback library for c++, basically. |
| 03:25.46 | elg | typesafe, doesn't spew ugly template compiler errors, (although it uses templates), etc. |
| 03:25.59 | levi_ | Hmm, you'd have to use C++ then. :) |
| 03:26.35 | elg | well, yes it's for c++. if you're using a better language you can just use procs or whatever you want to call them. :) |
| 03:26.57 | elg | blasted cscope, how do I get it to look for .cc files too? |
| 03:30.42 | elg | ah, find ... > cscope.files |
| 03:33.57 | levi_ | So, I'm looking at the datasheet for a chip that does tcp/ip via a direct bus connection or an i2c connection. |
| 03:35.25 | elg | what fun. I've heard happy thoughts from EEs about i2d |
| 03:35.28 | elg | er, i2c |
| 03:36.21 | levi_ | But it's not at all clear how to actually do anything with it via i2c. |
| 03:43.04 | mheath | Heh... |
| 03:45.47 | levi_ | I will have to read it in greater depth. |
| 03:46.57 | levi_ | I've found that data sheets for ICs tend to be very good at telling you exactly what all the parts of the chip do without actually telling you how to use it. |
| 03:53.10 | levi_ | I certainly don't want to study EE in depth, but I'd like to have a better grasp of it than I do now. |
| 03:54.23 | mheath | My dad received a Master's in Electronic Engineering. |
| 03:55.26 | mheath | Initially worked on flight simulators for the USAF, then went on to work on a variety of other things like guidance systems on missiles, and the control module for a laser targeting system |
| 03:57.31 | mheath | Can anyone comment on Mission: Impossible III? |
| 03:58.28 | Cubeyfreak | I seem to get all the crazies... "assistance in the transfer of USD (12.3.m) Seventeen Million," |
| 03:58.32 | Cubeyfreak | Three Hundred Thousand Dollars. |
| 03:58.34 | Cubeyfreak | BAH |
| 03:58.41 | Cubeyfreak | that was supposed to be one line |
| 03:59.28 | mheath | I don't feel that great, but I came home tired so I slept all evening |
| 03:59.35 | QBFReak | 12.3 million is not 17 million three hundred thousand... |
| 03:59.39 | mheath | Actually....nah...... |
| 03:59.46 | mheath | QBFReak, ....... |
| 03:59.48 | levi_ | Go for it. Couldn't be /that/ bad. |
| 04:00.23 | mheath | I feel kinda bad doing that though |
| 04:00.43 | mheath | I took the night off work. Showed up, felt tired and like crap, so I left and went home.... |
| 04:01.03 | mheath | I slept, and I feel a lot better (still not great).....so I feel kinda guilty going and seeing a movie when I had to leave work |
| 04:01.11 | mheath | s/work/work early/g |
| 04:01.59 | QBFReak | grr |
| 04:34.12 | levi_ | mheath: Nothing to feel guilty about. You /were/ feeling bad when you left. |
| 04:38.59 | levi_ | Where's maquis? |
| 04:40.05 | goozbach | blargfooblarg |
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| 04:57.22 | nick125 | anyone ehre up for some bzflag? |
| 05:00.59 | levi_ | I do believe I'm getting this ethernet module figured out. |
| 05:02.01 | nick125 | cool |
| 05:05.55 | levi_ | It's all about the registers. |
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| 05:47.24 | BL4 | hey whats up ppls |
| 05:47.37 | nick125_lappy | not much not much |
| 05:47.45 | nick125_lappy | that wasfun today |
| 05:47.51 | nick125_lappy | 10 people playing on bzflag |
| 05:47.52 | BL4 | so its an exciting Saturay night |
| 05:47.59 | BL4 | oh, sweet...I was busy working most of the day |
| 05:48.18 | nick125_lappy | i finally got a server setup.. |
| 05:48.37 | BL4 | cool |
| 05:50.34 | levi_ | I've been reading data sheets for electronic components. |
| 05:53.26 | BL4 | electronic components are cool |
| 05:56.29 | levi_ | This particular one is a module that does tcp/ip over ethernet, and you can control it via i2c. |
| 05:56.58 | BL4 | expensive is it? |
| 06:08.06 | levi_ | I don't know, I didn't buy it. |
| 06:08.57 | BL4 | you planning on building something with it? |
| 06:10.43 | levi_ | Yes, it's for a research project at school. |
| 06:35.19 | mheath | In case anyone wondered, Mission Impossible: III isn't any good. |
| 06:35.42 | BL4 | anyone think xmen 3 will be good? |
| 06:36.02 | mheath | And, I now know why people complain about hollywood actors being too liberal sometimes. I mean, I'm open to all kinds of political opinions, but....keep them out of Mission: Impossible movies! |
| 06:36.12 | BL4 | lol |
| 06:36.45 | mheath | Want to know who the villain was? (After you get through the nth later of conspiracy and set-ups) |
| 06:37.06 | tensai | mheath: I'm pretty certain nobody wondered if it would be good, nobody who saw MI:2 anyway |
| 06:37.25 | mheath | A guy who was ordered by the US president to let an illegal arms deal go down, so the US would have proof to launch a military strike against some unnamed middle eastern country |
| 06:37.35 | mheath | This is the evil person. |
| 06:37.59 | BL4 | ha ha ha |
| 06:38.37 | mheath | I was wondering whats up with the title graphics too |
| 06:38.49 | mheath | you know, the title and initial credits at the beginning..... |
| 06:39.10 | nick125_lappy | anyone know of a game that will play somewhat okay on a box that gets 40fps in glxgears? |
| 06:39.26 | tensai | bzflag |
| 06:39.38 | mheath | It was like.....An image of a fuse burning down, with generic 3d text ontop of it. Like the "we made this with a $20 home video editing application" generic 3d text |
| 06:39.46 | nick125_lappy | tensai: lets see.. |
| 06:40.00 | mheath | I was expecting to see "Our trip to the grand canyon" just as much as "Tom Cruise" =P |
| 06:40.40 | mheath | The video, too...the cinemetography.... |
| 06:41.05 | mheath | It was like some excited film student who got a hold of a camera for the first time and discovered all the neat things you can do with depth of field by playing with the aperature |
| 06:41.23 | tensai | nick125_lappy: tuxracer, scorch3d |
| 06:43.07 | nick125_lappy | omg, bzflag runs like streaming a DVD over a dial up connection -_- |
| 06:43.29 | nick125_lappy | that's at horrible quality too |
| 06:43.37 | BL4 | nick125...I played it the other night over my dialup |
| 06:43.40 | BL4 | it wasn't bad |
| 06:43.58 | tensai | BL4: it would be if the graphics were going over dialup |
| 06:44.01 | nick125_lappy | no, I'm talking about in framerate, its like streaming a DVD over dial up... |
| 06:44.02 | nick125_lappy | yeah |
| 06:44.04 | mheath | nick125_lappy, Half-Life 1 and et. al. ran pretty well on that kind of card, IIRC |
| 06:44.22 | tensai | apt-get install half-life |
| 06:44.41 | nick125_lappy | 587 frames in 5.9 seconds = 100.035 FPS |
| 06:44.41 | nick125_lappy | 458 frames in 5.0 seconds = 90.898 FPS |
| 06:44.52 | nick125_lappy | considering my 6600 gets 6000 FPS or so :/ |
| 06:45.26 | mheath | nick125_lappy, if you're looking for pity because one graphics card in one machine isn't the top of the line, you're talking to the wrong person. |
| 06:45.37 | tensai | my piece of junk laptop video card get 52.6fps |
| 06:45.39 | mheath | My fastest computer is a Pentium III 450 Mhz desktop |
| 06:45.52 | tensai | in glxgears, that is |
| 06:45.56 | mheath | It has a Matrox G200 card in it, which doesn't support anything except for minor 2d acceleration. |
| 06:46.12 | tensai | nick125_lappy: are you sure it's using 3d acceleration? sounds like it's using software. |
| 06:46.32 | nick125_lappy | I think it probably is.. |
| 06:46.39 | mheath | nick125_lappy, glxinfo. |
| 06:46.42 | tensai | glxinfo |grep "direct rendering" |
| 06:46.52 | mheath | Jeez, you guys are all too rich. |
| 06:46.56 | nick125_lappy | this card doesn't use the normal ATI drivers, it uses the old ones, because this is an ATI mobility rage 128 |
| 06:47.04 | mheath | Laptops, PDAs, nice graphics cards, nice desktops =\ |
| 06:47.31 | nick125_lappy | yeah, its using software |
| 06:47.33 | levi_ | Yay, I understand how this ethernet module works now. |
| 06:48.49 | tensai | mheath: you must have missed the part where nick125_lappy and I have crap for video cards |
| 06:49.16 | mheath | tensai, And you missed the part where I said that my only graphics card is a Matrox G200, which supports no acceleration, and has no features. |
| 06:49.24 | maquis | levi_: i'm here now... were you looking for me? |
| 06:49.37 | mheath | My fastest machine is a Pentium III 450 Mhz. It is the only computer I own; I got it for free. I have never had money to spend on computers. |
| 06:49.43 | tensai | and that's different from mine because... |
| 06:49.55 | levi_ | maquis: Just wondering where you were, since you didn't seem to be here. |
| 06:50.18 | levi_ | mheath: Yeah, so, most of us were in the same situation at your age. |
| 06:50.48 | mheath | tensai, nick125_lappy has an ATI Rage 128. My friend plays Half-Life, Warcraft III, and others on a Rage 128. |
| 06:51.05 | levi_ | I had to suffer with a 486sx/20 w/10Mb of RAM or something like that when I went off to school. |
| 06:51.10 | tensai | anyone with an ATI card should be pitied |
| 06:51.30 | levi_ | Everyone else had spiffy Pentium 133s and stuff. |
| 06:51.33 | mheath | levi_, Just frustrating, realizing that I've really never played a decent modern game, and I probably won't have a chance to for at least the next 4 years. |
| 06:51.42 | tensai | I took an ibm xt to school. it wouldn't even run doom. :( |
| 06:51.57 | nick125_lappy | okay, I got it to work decently.. |
| 06:52.02 | nick125_lappy | turned of everything |
| 06:52.07 | levi_ | mheath: Not our fault you want to go off and shoot stuff instead of doing something interesting. |
| 06:52.07 | nick125_lappy | dithering, texturing, etc |
| 06:52.55 | mheath | levi_: Don't give me that kind of crap. I'm putting my life on the line to keep this country safe. |
| 06:53.05 | levi_ | mheath: Whatever, dude. |
| 06:53.25 | mheath | Wait |
| 06:53.38 | mheath | Everyones right. War never solves anything. |
| 06:53.53 | levi_ | I didn't say war never solves anything. |
| 06:53.57 | mheath | Except for....Slavery, communism, fascism, nazism..... |
| 06:54.18 | levi_ | Dude, I do /not/ want to hear any more of your justifications for going off to the Marines. |
| 06:55.00 | mheath | levi_, and likewise, I do /not/ (I'm trendy and use /'s for emphasis too!) want to hear any more negative comments about me going into the Marines. |
| 06:55.45 | levi_ | mheath: So, quit whining about what you're going to miss out on by going! |
| 06:55.58 | tensai | ~levi_++ |
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| 06:56.12 | mheath | levi_: By the way. Remember that nick125_lappy is the same age as me. |
| 06:56.17 | mheath | As is xbmodder_lappy |
| 06:56.24 | mheath | <levi_> mheath: Yeah, so, most of us were in the same situation at your age. |
| 06:56.26 | levi_ | mheath: Oh, I'm very aware of that. |
| 06:56.37 | mheath | I was talking rather specificially about nick125_lappy's situation |
| 06:57.01 | levi_ | mheath: The 'were' indicates past tense, which obviously excludes those in your situation right now. |
| 06:57.19 | levi_ | nick125 and xbmodder are spoiled brats. |
| 06:58.11 | levi_ | (and I mean that in the nicest way, of course. ;) ) |
| 06:59.07 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 07:00.58 | mheath | levi_: I wasn't complaining about missing things. I was just saying, I wish I had been privileged enough to enjoy the kinds of games that these guys, and my friends from school, are playing. |
| 07:01.16 | mheath | Something I wish I had experienced, before I leave. |
| 07:01.22 | levi_ | mheath: Tough cookies, eh? |
| 07:02.03 | levi_ | From my end, it looked a whole lot like complaining. |
| 07:03.20 | levi_ | And, in not playing the games, you aren't missing out on much. There are plenty of other leisure activities that are just as, if not more, fulfilling. |
| 07:03.57 | mheath | I'm kind of dealing with the reality that, particularly if we end up going to war with another country (so theirs field combat again, as opposed to the sporadic bombings and such right now), I'm going into a very dangerous job. One of the statistically most dangerous in the military. |
| 07:04.19 | levi_ | (Which, for a smart kid like you, is rather stupid) |
| 07:04.21 | mheath | Kind of weird thinking that me dieing in the next few years is much more likely than it is for the average person. |
| 07:05.34 | mheath | levi_: I fail to see how. |
| 07:05.59 | levi_ | mheath: Then perhaps you are not actually a smart kid. |
| 07:06.15 | mheath | I feel a sense of responsibility to our country. I could ignore the fact that we're at a pivotal moment in international policy, relations, and security.....spend 4 years that I'd hate going through college...and get a desk job. |
| 07:06.39 | mheath | Or I could spend my time making a difference. |
| 07:07.19 | levi_ | I fail to see how your particular choice of employment in the Marines will make more of a 'difference' than your employment elsewhere. |
| 07:07.33 | tensai | levi_: you ride a bike, right? |
| 07:07.38 | levi_ | tensai: Yup! |
| 07:07.46 | mheath | levi_, to quote President Reagan: |
| 07:08.11 | mheath | "Some people go their whole life wondering if they ever made a difference. Marines don’t have that problem." |
| 07:08.17 | tensai | levi_: what's the proper etiquete for riding in town? on the road like cars? sidewalks? |
| 07:08.50 | mheath | levi_: I am going into the one job where I can have a positive effect in everything from directly saving a friends life, to rather directly changing international policy. |
| 07:09.03 | tensai | levi_: the last time I rode was in Japan where things are quite a bit different |
| 07:09.12 | levi_ | mheath: No, you'll be a cog in a machine just as if you were in a big corporation. |
| 07:09.43 | mheath | levi_: Heh. |
| 07:09.48 | mheath | Let me ask you this |
| 07:09.54 | mheath | Marines frequently do peace keeping missions |
| 07:10.01 | mheath | Patrol the streets of trouble nations, that sort of thing. |
| 07:10.08 | levi_ | Yup. |
| 07:10.49 | mheath | Say your in a boring job on the streets of such a country. Your a "cog in the machine". Not doing much, you haven't been doing much for months. |
| 07:11.02 | mheath | But, say you see a woman getting raped. |
| 07:11.10 | mheath | What do you do? |
| 07:11.27 | levi_ | mheath: I'm not going to talk to you about this anymore. |
| 07:11.41 | tensai | I know, I know. light the straw man! |
| 07:11.58 | levi_ | tensai: Legally, a bicyclist is a vehicle on the road. So, you ride with traffic and obey traffic laws. |
| 07:12.09 | mheath | levi_: Your insane if you think that Marines don't make a difference in the world. Go read a history book. |
| 07:12.44 | mheath | Thats all I've got to say. |
| 07:12.45 | levi_ | mheath: You're insane if you think being in the Marines automatically makes you make a difference. |
| 07:13.05 | mheath | I didn't say it does. |
| 07:13.19 | levi_ | Or gives you a greater opportunity to make a difference than you would have otherwise. |
| 07:13.29 | mheath | I said I'm going into the one job where I have an opportunity to make a different in every way from directly saving someones life, to effecting international policy. |
| 07:13.29 | tensai | levi_: when you turn left, do you get into the turn lane? |
| 07:13.42 | mheath | *difference |
| 07:14.03 | levi_ | tensai: Yup. |
| 07:14.29 | levi_ | tensai: I use hand signals to show my intention to change lanes, and then I get over when it's clear. |
| 07:14.49 | tensai | levi_: what if you don't trigger the sensor at a light? |
| 07:15.25 | levi_ | tensai: Then I get ticked off, and I either run the light or I use the crosswalk. |
| 07:15.30 | levi_ | Depending on traffic. |
| 07:15.41 | mheath | tensai, The common practice is to, when on smaller streets with less cars, to stick to the road and obey the laws of a car |
| 07:16.10 | mheath | However, if you're peddling away on a street with a 55 mph speed limit, backing up traffic, people will get annoyed. Make sure your sticking to the side, or the sidewalk. |
| 07:16.26 | mheath | As to your light question |
| 07:16.41 | BL4 | stupid lights don't detect my scooter |
| 07:16.46 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, I am 15 years old, aren't you 17? |
| 07:17.06 | mheath | While bicyclists officially follow the same rules as motorists, they also have right of way over them. |
| 07:17.30 | BL4 | yeah, they have the right of way, until the lady who isn't looking hits you |
| 07:17.43 | mheath | Especially with the recent crackdown on motorists passing by too close ot bicyclists, people are usually very careful around them. |
| 07:17.51 | mheath | Use common sense, but you have a right to go first. |
| 07:17.51 | BL4 | riding your bike is so dangerous in traffic |
| 07:18.36 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy, I'm about to tell you something that will shock you. A couple years of age....*doesn't matter*! |
| 07:18.38 | BL4 | but its a lot of fun |
| 07:18.43 | tensai | levi_: any words of wisdom before I start riding my bike to work? (beside wear a helmet, which I will) |
| 07:19.06 | BL4 | especially when you come to a light and see a bunch of cars pulling out in front of you, only to realize that the lights red for you... |
| 07:19.19 | levi_ | tensai: Find roads with wide shoulders and little traffic. |
| 07:19.29 | levi_ | tensai: The best route for a car is often not the best route for a bike. |
| 07:20.01 | tensai | levi_: yeah, there's a narrow bridge that I'm planning to avoid |
| 07:20.44 | levi_ | tensai: I like to wear bike clothes and shower/change at the office. If you don't have a shower there, baby wipes work well to freshen up. |
| 07:21.34 | tensai | a little thermal grease should prevent any sweating :) |
| 07:21.53 | levi_ | tensai: One thing you might consider is driving a bunch of clothes/supplies in on Monday, taking them home on Friday, and biking on the other days. Or some sort of system like that. |
| 07:22.26 | levi_ | Don't forget rain gear if there's a chance of rain. :) |
| 07:22.48 | BL4 | don't forget a lock for your bike...don't want anyone walking away with it :D |
| 07:23.20 | levi_ | I take my bike into the office. They've got a spare room we keep them in. I used to keep it in my cube, though. |
| 07:23.22 | tensai | I'll probably drag it into my office |
| 07:23.45 | tensai | I've got plenty of space and it's a single story building |
| 07:23.50 | BL4 | you trust your co-workers that much ? |
| 07:23.52 | BL4 | :P |
| 07:24.01 | levi_ | Yeah. |
| 07:24.15 | tensai | I have one co-worker. that should solve that mystery easily enough. :D |
| 07:24.20 | levi_ | Besides, mine is one of the cheaper bikes. Several guys have nice carbon fiber bikes. |
| 07:24.44 | BL4 | what if they wanted one for their friend |
| 07:25.21 | levi_ | Then they'd take their friend to the bike store. |
| 07:26.29 | levi_ | I work with civilized people. Well, aside from the sales and marketing types, but they're at least above petty theivery. |
| 07:27.22 | BL4 | lol |
| 07:27.35 | BL4 | no, I don't take stuff, unfortunately, I live around ppl who do |
| 07:28.04 | levi_ | I've had stuff taken from the garage of the home I lived in, but not from work. |
| 07:28.07 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, Between 0-18 you change a lot, lots of hormones flowing through your body changing you... |
| 07:28.40 | tensai | somebody stole one of the garden lights out of my front yard |
| 07:28.51 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy, What do you want me to say? "Congratulations, you can father children now!"? |
| 07:28.51 | xbmodder_lappy | tensai, :-( |
| 07:28.52 | tensai | they were like 2 days old |
| 07:29.03 | mheath | A couple years of age doesn't matter. |
| 07:29.18 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, um, not in that sense, your not mature until about 16 or so. |
| 07:29.31 | xbmodder_lappy | well, you don't begin to mature. |
| 07:29.33 | tensai | mheath: it does when you're 2 |
| 07:29.54 | BL4 | xbmodder_lappy: are you saying your not maturing yet? |
| 07:30.08 | mheath | tensai, So, theres some major different between a 2 and 4 year old that makes them uncomparrable and ungroupable? |
| 07:30.17 | xbmodder_lappy | BL4, I say that I am in the process of it. |
| 07:30.23 | mheath | tensai, xbmodder_lappy is arguing my comment that me and him are in the same age group |
| 07:30.34 | mheath | Because, after all, he's 15 and I'm almost 17! |
| 07:30.49 | BL4 | lol, well, the age group of 10 to 20, yes...definately |
| 07:30.55 | xbmodder_lappy | between 0 and 1 |
| 07:31.05 | xbmodder_lappy | your twice the size! |
| 07:31.05 | xbmodder_lappy | heh |
| 07:31.38 | tensai | mheath: more different than an 85 and 87 year old. it's all relative. |
| 07:32.05 | BL4 | xbmodder_lappy, mheath is right only depending upon the listing of the categories, but the categories can be changed a lot...so you could also be correct, it just depends on how you define the groups, what qualities you are looking for and what not boring stuff. |
| 07:32.51 | xbmodder_lappy | tensai, I think as the ratio of the younger approaches one, it matters less and less... |
| 07:34.21 | BL4 | xbmodder_lappy, between 0 and 1 your not twice the size, your infinate your previous size. |
| 07:34.46 | levi_ | BL4: So an unborn child has a size of 0? |
| 07:35.40 | xbmodder_lappy | Age is the measure of how long you've been alive |
| 07:36.05 | levi_ | If a 1-year old has been out of the womb for 1 year, an age of 0 must indicate birth. The size at age 0 is birth size, and the size at 1 is certainly not infinitely greater than that. |
| 07:36.08 | BL4 | well, -0.75 |
| 07:36.08 | xbmodder_lappy | Depending on your views it may be differend |
| 07:36.15 | xbmodder_lappy | s/erend/erent/ |
| 07:36.50 | BL4 | at -0.75 your mass is 0 |
| 07:37.25 | levi_ | Time for me to sleep. |
| 07:41.50 | BL4 | night |
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| 17:23.23 | Kuyaedz | anyone use postfix + amavis + clamav? I'm getting some stupid error I can't figure out |
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| 19:57.26 | nick125 | mm.. |
| 19:57.33 | nick125 | its quiet in here |
| 19:57.45 | Kuyaedz | yes it is |
| 19:58.00 | nick125 | no one to play bzflag with either.. |
| 19:58.21 | Kuyaedz | Ok I keep hearing you talk about bzflag.. what is bzflag? :) |
| 19:59.15 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.15 | brac | [BZFlag - home] |
| 19:59.53 | nick125 | its a pretty fun tank game |
| 19:59.59 | nick125 | tank battle game |
| 20:00.41 | nick125 | then, start it like this: |
| 20:00.53 | nick125 | <path/to/bzflag> noc.atarack.com |
| 20:00.58 | nick125 | that will autoconnect to my server |
| 20:03.39 | Kuyaedz | http://christer.pastebin.com/704061 |
| 20:03.54 | Kuyaedz | looks like I need to config something else |
| 20:04.32 | nick125 | you need to configure xorg for GLX |
| 20:06.12 | Kuyaedz | thought I already had glx config'd.. guess not |
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| 20:47.38 | BL4 | good morning ppls |
| 20:52.44 | Kuyaedz | uhm, morning.. |
| 20:55.57 | BL4 | well, I suppose it is way after that, but, uh....I always like to say good morning right after I wake up |
| 20:59.03 | maquis | lol |
| 20:59.32 | BL4 | I got my sleeping schedule way off this last week |
| 20:59.45 | BL4 | so I tried to stay up all night into the next day...and I accidently fell asleep at about 7 am |
| 21:01.10 | maquis | BL4: been there, done that :) |
| 21:01.12 | nick125 | bzflag anyone? :) |
| 21:01.15 | BL4 | alright |
| 21:01.16 | BL4 | :D |
| 21:01.28 | maquis | nick125: you sure? |
| 21:01.33 | nick125 | sure, why not |
| 21:01.43 | maquis | nick125: what channel? |
| 21:01.49 | nick125 | what server you mean? |
| 21:01.54 | BL4 | lol |
| 21:01.54 | nick125 | noc.atarack.com:5154 |
| 21:02.00 | nick125 | :D |
| 21:02.07 | BL4 | well, I supose there is a #bzflag channel |
| 21:03.12 | BL4 | is going to finish eating breakfast first.... |
| 21:03.26 | nick125 | I eat my breakfast while playing :D |
| 21:03.45 | BL4 | well, I don't want to risk breaking this keyboard too... |
| 21:04.02 | nick125 | too? |
| 21:04.14 | nick125 | what did you do to the last one? |
| 21:04.21 | BL4 | lol, my last keyboard broke from unknown causes...the right half of the keyboard stopped functioning... |
| 21:04.43 | nick125 | wewt, I got another person gonna join us :D |
| 21:04.53 | nick125 | well, maybe |
| 21:05.29 | BL4 | I took the keyboard apart a couple times....it looked like it had some design flaws... |
| 21:05.59 | BL4 | well, I'm going to get into the game.... |
| 21:06.09 | maquis | alright... |
| 21:06.09 | nick125 | okay |
| 21:06.14 | nick125 | I'll be there in a sec |
| 21:06.16 | maquis | i can't play long, but i'll play for a while :) |
| 21:21.00 | Kuyaedz | anyone give me some quick help with .css? |
| 21:26.43 | elg | if i know the answer |
| 21:35.29 | Kuyaedz | I need to add a black border around the current layout of a site and I'm not sure the easiest way to do it.. |
| 21:37.11 | elg | with a border attribute on the div? |
| 21:40.34 | Kuyaedz | can't seem to find the div that covers the whole page.. using a wordpress theme |
| 21:41.19 | mheath | Kuyaedz, then create a div around it all? |
| 21:41.34 | mheath | Set the spacing to 0, add a border, and there you go |
| 21:41.49 | Kuyaedz | I think I got it.. I hate web design |
| 21:48.00 | ScytheBlade1 | border: black 1px solid; |
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| 22:52.12 | emcnabb | winmodems suck |
| 22:52.40 | elg | ~suck emcnabb |
| 22:52.42 | ibot | ACTION sucks emcnabb's neck |
| 22:53.00 | elg | now we can say ibot sucks too |
| 22:58.14 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 22:58.37 | emcnabb | ibot flings poo too |
| 23:00.10 | elg | a bot of many talents |
| 23:01.31 | BL4 | nick125, I take it we are done? |
| 23:01.49 | nick125 | BL4: no..someone reset the server -_- |
| 23:01.53 | BL4 | lol |
| 23:01.57 | BL4 | woot |
| 23:02.05 | BL4 | well, I suppose I better go do something else for a while... |
| 23:02.25 | BL4 | ~lart xbmodder_ |
| 23:02.34 | nick125 | mmm |
| 23:02.38 | nick125 | marshmallows |
| 23:02.42 | BL4 | yummy... |
| 23:03.09 | BL4 | oh wait, the marshmallows were next to... |
| 23:03.43 | BL4 | well, I'm out |
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| 23:24.24 | elg | -lart emcnabb |
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| 23:56.34 | xbmodder_lappy | who needs a vPS? |
| 23:56.35 | xbmodder_lappy | VPS? |