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| 01:49.04 | goozbach | ~seen redbeard1 |
| 01:49.14 | ibot | redbeard1 <n=jphall@pollux.northsky.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 5h 9m 33s ago, saying: '~dog StuartHall'. |
| 01:53.46 | PeregrineFalcon | gooz! |
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| 02:11.08 | emcnabb | my birthday is coming up, and family members have started to ask me what I want |
| 02:11.17 | BL4 | money |
| 02:11.21 | emcnabb | but I honestly can't think of anything I really want |
| 02:11.22 | ScytheBlade1 | money |
| 02:11.24 | emcnabb | money is good |
| 02:11.35 | BL4 | physical pleasure |
| 02:11.40 | BL4 | food |
| 02:12.10 | ScytheBlade1 | This won't take long at all. |
| 02:12.14 | BL4 | um, motor vehicles. |
| 02:12.23 | emcnabb | I just ate at Ruth's Chris again tonight so food doesn't sound too good |
| 02:12.39 | BL4 | pieces of a computer... |
| 02:12.43 | emcnabb | I have a motor vehicle that works fine |
| 02:13.02 | emcnabb | BL4: true, I do need some more items for my computer museum |
| 02:13.14 | emcnabb | but I'm moving soon, so I don't want crap |
| 02:13.17 | PeregrineFalcon | emcnabb: Did you remember yet? |
| 02:13.28 | emcnabb | PeregrineFalcon: nope :-) |
| 02:13.37 | BL4 | a big trash bag to throw away your crap? |
| 02:13.58 | emcnabb | my wife bought a bunch of those for me already |
| 02:14.03 | emcnabb | I just don't take hints |
| 02:14.07 | BL4 | lol |
| 02:14.17 | BL4 | a garbage truck? |
| 02:14.56 | BL4 | pictures of all the people your going to leave behind?...maybe framed? |
| 02:16.13 | emcnabb | um... no |
| 02:16.35 | BL4 | money sounds good |
| 02:16.52 | emcnabb | I usually like books, but I have a whole stack of unread books at home |
| 02:17.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Sooner or later, you'll read them |
| 02:17.04 | BL4 | tell them you don't want anything and to leave you alone |
| 02:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And then you'll be out |
| 02:19.38 | emcnabb | I've wanted one of these for a while: http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/kill_a_watt_electric_usage_monitor_review |
| 02:19.39 | brac | [The Gadgeteer - Kill-A-Watt Electric Usage Monitor Review] |
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| 02:23.06 | BL4 | ahhh, my electric bill tends to only be around $16.95 a month |
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| 02:24.06 | BL4 | that is pretty cool though |
| 02:24.10 | emcnabb | well, I'm just as interested in playing with it as I am for saving money |
| 02:24.57 | BL4 | well, try the energy save light bulbs, they dropped my bill by 25% |
| 02:25.27 | BL4 | of course, all my electric either goes into my computers or my lights... |
| 02:26.41 | emcnabb | BL4: that's what we're using as the old ones burn out |
| 02:27.26 | BL4 | ahh, it was easy for me to switch, as I burned one out about once a week |
| 02:27.53 | BL4 | cheap lights... |
| 02:28.30 | BL4 | I've always wanted one of those kill a watt electric usage monitor things... |
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| 02:44.26 | RyanE_ | BL4: The Kill-A-Watt units were on sale a month or two ago for only $39 |
| 02:45.29 | BL4 | RyanE, to bad I want some other stuff more right now |
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| 03:02.49 | tensai | maquis: my smoked salmon may be a bust :( |
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| 03:03.19 | tensai | they sent me to Wyoming yesterday when I was supposed to smoking it. I put it in the freezer, but who knows if it'll be ruined when I return. |
| 03:04.16 | maquis | tensai: sadness |
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| 03:07.54 | tensai | and my wife made my bbq ribs without me :( |
| 03:09.53 | xbmodder_lappy | what did you make? |
| 03:09.57 | xbmodder_lappy | Salad or something? |
| 03:20.45 | vontrapp | what are the chances of recovering data off a disk formatted with ntfs and a bad superblock? |
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| 03:33.41 | Kuyaedz | quick question folks. If I do a full live backup of a production machine using tar is it critical to stop all major services first? ie; apache, mysql, postfix, etc. |
| 03:48.15 | ScytheBlade1 | It's highly, highly, highly recommended |
| 03:48.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Example, if you do, it'll leave all of the fun .pid files around... try to start it back up via backup, well, it'll say that everything is running |
| 03:49.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus you have the chance to record data as it's being written, and in the case of a database, that would be... not good |
| 03:50.28 | xbmodder_lappy | Kuyaedz, yeah, if there is alotta read/write going on then your in trouble |
| 03:50.38 | Kuyaedz | also, I've seen suggestions to --exlclude things like /lost+found, /proc & /dev. That right? |
| 03:50.41 | xbmodder_lappy | Is this a business system? |
| 03:50.44 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 03:50.59 | xbmodder_lappy | /proc /dev/ /tmp |
| 03:51.08 | xbmodder_lappy | /usr/portage |
| 03:51.48 | Kuyaedz | this is my business webserver |
| 03:52.36 | Kuyaedz | I just recovered from a crash so I wanted to try some more complete backup options, like a daily drive image |
| 03:52.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Run two webservers |
| 03:52.52 | ScytheBlade1 | take one down, image it, swap |
| 03:53.49 | Kuyaedz | that would be ideal and I've got the machines to do it.. |
| 03:54.30 | ScytheBlade1 | It comes highly recommende :) |
| 03:54.33 | ScytheBlade1 | *recommended |
| 03:54.58 | Kuyaedz | This is on a pretty simple setup though.. what is the best way to mirror the two webservers & how do I 1) keep them sync'd 2) redirect traffic to the 'up' server during imaging? |
| 03:55.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Do you have any dynamic content? |
| 03:55.52 | Kuyaedz | dynamic content as in php based sites? yes. |
| 03:56.32 | ScytheBlade1 | That makes it quite a bit harder |
| 03:57.01 | ScytheBlade1 | databases? |
| 03:57.15 | Kuyaedz | yep |
| 03:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd almost say that the hassle that would be isn't worth it |
| 03:57.36 | Kuyaedz | more sites are php/mysql driven than aren't |
| 03:58.48 | Kuyaedz | so it sounds like I'm looking at a few minutes downtime nightly during imaging while I have services off? |
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| 03:59.33 | ScytheBlade1 | probably |
| 03:59.43 | ScytheBlade1 | syncing dynamic content across boxes is quite the trick |
| 03:59.54 | ScytheBlade1 | If you can get it working, then it's amazinb |
| 03:59.56 | ScytheBlade1 | *amazing |
| 04:00.08 | ScytheBlade1 | But... you'd multiply the boxes you're using |
| 04:00.57 | Kuyaedz | previously I'd rsync all webcontent & mysqldump directly into the mirror machine. That _mostly_ worked, but I occasionally ran into closed_table errors on the mirror. |
| 04:01.27 | bertbob | you should make sure your version of tar doesn't have a broken --exclude ... that's been going around I hear |
| 04:01.44 | ScytheBlade1 | MySQL has a hot backup option |
| 04:01.52 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're on InnoDB, it's amazingly reliable |
| 04:02.02 | ScytheBlade1 | if not, it locks the db while it runs |
| 04:02.39 | Kuyaedz | bertbob: looks like I've got 1.15.1.. hope that's reliable |
| 04:04.05 | Kuyaedz | last thing I want right now is more backup troubles.. |
| 04:04.35 | bertbob | fedora 1.15 and later I think |
| 04:04.38 | Jayce^ | get replication running on mysql, best first line backup you can do :) |
| 04:04.54 | Kuyaedz | I looked into that but couldn't quite figure it out |
| 04:05.15 | Jayce^ | it's actually pretty simple overall |
| 04:05.30 | Jayce^ | there are some good docs out there |
| 04:06.34 | Kuyaedz | so I could setup mysql replication between server1 & mirror1 and that'd keep those two sync'd w/o any mysql dumps or anything? |
| 04:07.46 | Kuyaedz | curious though. If, for whatever reason, I needed to make mirror1 live would it replicate changes on mirror1 back to server1? |
| 04:08.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It can |
| 04:08.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I had forgotten, heh, that would be a pretty simple way |
| 04:09.02 | Kuyaedz | We all love the intensive setups, I understand. |
| 04:09.41 | tensai | Jayce^: I set up 2-way mysql replication a couple times last month. pretty sweet stuff. |
| 04:13.29 | ScytheBlade1 | /etc is nice to keep too |
| 04:13.41 | ScytheBlade1 | along with wherever else you keep your config files |
| 04:14.23 | Kuyaedz | mainly, after the trouble of my last rebuild, I would like to easily revert to $date so a complete image sounds nice |
| 04:14.45 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ |
| 04:15.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Lets you revert to $date/$hour/$minute with near minimal disk usage |
| 04:15.24 | Kuyaedz | I know I've read that before.. not sure if I never put all the steps together |
| 04:15.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 04:15.59 | Kuyaedz | yeah, this is the one that taught me all about hard links and whatnot |
| 04:16.20 | ScytheBlade1 | it's a nice page |
| 04:19.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, that should work nicely... |
| 04:19.32 | Kuyaedz | looks like this remounts as ro? I guess that makes sense |
| 04:19.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Have two database servers |
| 04:19.40 | ScytheBlade1 | One web server |
| 04:19.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Or two/two |
| 04:19.58 | ScytheBlade1 | That way you can take down a pair and image those |
| 04:20.09 | ScytheBlade1 | And call it good, since the other set should be content identical |
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| 04:22.08 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, okay |
| 04:22.14 | Kuyaedz | This is not stuff I should be trying to figure at after a full day of work is all.. |
| 04:22.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I've gotta sleep soon, but in a nutshell |
| 04:22.47 | ScytheBlade1 | If you have the hardware, I'd setup a pair of database servers, and replication between them |
| 04:23.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Then, if one fails, you can always switch it to the other, and vice-versa (hot backup) |
| 04:23.32 | Kuyaedz | I've got 3 machines I can use now, I could add another if I need.. |
| 04:23.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus, you can just take one offline and image the hard drive, no problem. |
| 04:24.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd start there, then add in another webserver later |
| 04:24.34 | Kuyaedz | and how do I keep traffic to whichever server is online? |
| 04:24.38 | ScytheBlade1 | That way, you could do an offline backup of both the database and the files... with no downtime |
| 04:24.40 | ScytheBlade1 | sec as I find it |
| 04:25.10 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/ |
| 04:25.12 | brac | [The Linux Virtual Server Project - Linux Server Cluster for Load Balancing] |
| 04:25.18 | ScytheBlade1 | "The Linux Virtual Server as an advanced load balancing solution can be used to build highly scalable and highly available network services, such as scalable web, cache, mail, ftp, media and VoIP services." |
| 04:25.49 | Kuyaedz | As I'm completely paranoid I think I'll use two web/Db servers + a 3rd machine to store backups. |
| 04:25.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That's in the vanilla kernel, so you should be good to go |
| 04:26.03 | ScytheBlade1 | That would be optimal, just wasn't sure about your hardware |
| 04:27.15 | ScytheBlade1 | "IPVS: is an advanced IP load balancing software implemented inside the Linux kernel. The IPVS code was already included into the standard Linux kernel 2.4 and 2.6." |
| 04:28.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't say I've ever used IPVS, but I hear that it's good |
| 04:28.37 | Kuyaedz | ok.. I think I need to rehash this when I'm more awake, but sounds like a good start |
| 04:29.05 | ScytheBlade1 | just write on a sticky |
| 04:29.12 | ScytheBlade1 | "IPVS, MySQL replication, 5 computers" |
| 04:29.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 04:30.47 | Kuyaedz | done |
| 04:32.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Or just work and get paid to do it ;) |
| 04:33.07 | Kuyaedz | Yeah.. can't ever quite give it 110% at work though. They frown on that :) |
| 04:33.13 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:33.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, I'm going to sleep |
| 04:33.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Good luck |
| 04:33.37 | Kuyaedz | thanks for the help. I'm sure I'll find (read: bother) you tomorrow a bit more |
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| 04:34.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh |
| 04:34.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got school from when I wake up until 3:00 |
| 04:34.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Then I'll be gone from 7:00 or so until 12:00 |
| 04:34.23 | ScytheBlade1 | So... bug the channel ;) |
| 04:35.45 | Kuyaedz | will do |
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| 04:56.29 | QBFreak | 200 ch, 10 user programmable banks, compared to my 50 ch, 1 user programmable bank |
| 04:56.40 | QBFreak | mine is also maxed out, no room to add anything new |
| 04:56.59 | QBFreak | the only downside to this new one is it doesn't get CB, if I were to get something for the car I'd like to be able to monitor ch 9 |
| 04:57.37 | nick125_lappy | doesit workwith xsane? |
| 04:58.03 | QBFreak | doubtful :p |
| 05:00.20 | maquis | i just saw a website that had a proud icon saying "powered by Windows Live" |
| 05:00.34 | nick125_lappy | LOL |
| 05:00.38 | nick125_lappy | what site? |
| 05:00.40 | QBFreak | the uptime graph looks like a rollercoaster right? :) |
| 05:00.51 | nick125_lappy | yep |
| 05:51.14 | maquis | A9 |
| 05:51.34 | maquis | :( |
| 05:53.55 | xbmodder_lappy | paper size! |
| 05:54.00 | xbmodder_lappy | or amazon |
| 05:55.26 | maquis | amazon search |
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| 05:58.52 | BL4 | anyone notice google having issues? |
| 05:59.09 | QBFreak | google.com seems to be responding fine for me |
| 05:59.22 | BL4 | I meant the indexing and what not |
| 06:00.07 | BL4 | I've heard that google is running out of space and that they are dropping webpages from there index |
| 06:00.45 | BL4 | think it could be something serious? |
| 06:02.36 | QBFreak | google still seems to find a fair number of hits for qbfreak |
| 06:03.02 | QBFreak | and I certainly don't have a lot of "important" or even useful information out there :) |
| 06:04.06 | BL4 | it'll be interesting to see where google goes next in life. |
| 06:04.22 | QBFreak | hmm, I seem to have a totally pointless slashdot comment I didn't know I made |
| 06:04.30 | QBFreak | though I did make it |
| 06:04.59 | BL4 | lol |
| 06:05.22 | QBFreak | I'd be worried if not only did I not recall making it, but I in fact did not make it |
| 06:05.45 | QBFreak | darned quickbooks people are stealing my name! |
| 06:06.06 | QBFreak | and qbfreak@hotmail.com seems to be slowly gathering search results too |
| 06:07.35 | BL4 | lol, that was a pointless comment on slashdot |
| 06:07.56 | QBFreak | which one? I made two |
| 06:08.57 | BL4 | geek gift ideas |
| 06:09.19 | QBFreak | that one had more of a point than the other iirc |
| 06:09.22 | QBFreak | and its a good book |
| 06:09.46 | BL4 | ah, ic |
| 06:10.06 | QBFreak | I got mentioned in a ufie comment once |
| 06:11.25 | BL4 | lets see if its good or not |
| 06:11.27 | BL4 | :-P |
| 06:11.32 | QBFreak | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/read.cgi?id=20041208&tid=1452167 |
| 06:11.35 | brac | [UserFriendly Strip Comments] |
| 06:11.37 | QBFreak | sadly the picture is gone |
| 06:11.55 | BL4 | 404! |
| 06:12.22 | QBFreak | the picture or the link I gave? |
| 06:12.35 | BL4 | http://www.homestarrunner.com/404.txt |
| 06:12.44 | QBFreak | it was just a picture of the thread |
| 06:13.05 | BL4 | brilliant I say |
| 06:13.15 | QBFreak | I figured with a topic like that, they were asking for it :) |
| 06:14.53 | BL4 | the homestarrunner 404 is my favorite so far |
| 06:15.14 | QBFreak | I saw one that involved a depressed server considering suicide |
| 06:15.53 | BL4 | lol |
| 06:16.20 | BL4 | http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/psychology/alt.psychology.perso |
| 06:17.28 | QBFreak | the link got cut off, perhaps because of the size of the window at the time |
| 06:17.42 | QBFreak | wait...you're going for a 404 |
| 06:17.44 | QBFreak | neeever mind |
| 06:18.29 | BL4 | lol |
| 06:18.39 | BL4 | yes, I'm going for a 404 |
| 06:19.14 | QBFreak | "The problem is your fault. -- Webmaster (local dialect)" |
| 06:19.57 | BL4 | http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/legacy/rml.ht << the depressed webserver |
| 06:20.25 | QBFreak | I just found it here: http://www.acme.ws/ |
| 06:20.28 | brac | [Error 404 - No such file] |
| 06:20.31 | QBFreak | could be the same, but I'm busy watching it :) |
| 06:21.52 | QBFreak | similar |
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| 06:24.49 | BL4 | http://www.plinko.net/404/area404.asp >> now I'll stop |
| 06:24.50 | brac | [Area 404] |
| 06:25.49 | BL4 | what happened to ibot? |
| 06:26.04 | maquis | BL4: in what way? |
| 06:26.06 | BL4 | oh, I'm blind |
| 06:26.06 | QBFreak | ~lart BL4 |
| 06:26.16 | QBFreak | seems to be alive to me |
| 06:26.29 | maquis | ~lart bzflag |
| 06:26.54 | BL4 | I was jut wondering what was up with this brac bot... |
| 06:26.57 | maquis | ~bzfrag bzflag |
| 06:26.59 | ibot | ACTION makes bzflag feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 06:27.07 | maquis | -lart BL4 |
| 06:27.38 | BL4 | ~lart maquis |
| 06:28.12 | BL4 | hey, I used to work for the postal service... |
| 06:28.13 | BL4 | I guess it makes sense then |
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| 08:16.18 | SpecialK | ~rlart |
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| 09:26.47 | maquis | w00t! |
| 09:26.51 | maquis | c- in chem! |
| 09:28.04 | BL4 | ~rlart maquis |
| 09:28.11 | maquis | -lart BL4 |
| 09:28.15 | maquis | you can't rlart a person |
| 09:28.18 | maquis | ~rlart |
| 09:28.28 | maquis | BL4: what are you doing up at this hour |
| 09:28.29 | maquis | ? |
| 09:28.29 | BL4 | lol |
| 09:28.43 | BL4 | I'm looking at some OS programming stuff |
| 09:28.48 | BL4 | what are you doing up? |
| 09:29.15 | maquis | well... i was reading some of the experiences of ImprovEverywhere (stumbled across that site tonight) |
| 09:29.37 | maquis | but now i'm back to trying to figure out how to make this code link on fbsd, when it really doesn't want to |
| 09:29.45 | BL4 | oh yeah, I also finally organized my few Gigs of data to a sensible mess |
| 09:30.10 | maquis | code seems to work fine on the cs lab machines |
| 09:30.21 | maquis | but i'd really like to use it all on my laptop |
| 09:30.35 | BL4 | ah, the fun of getting code to work on different machines |
| 09:30.58 | maquis | the problem is, it was created from a version of bzflag from before fbsd compatibility |
| 09:31.02 | BL4 | I had a realy problem getting code to compile for my Mac OS X machine aftering programming it for a x86 Linux carient |
| 09:31.12 | maquis | so, i'm thinking about just giving up on it... |
| 09:31.23 | maquis | it's annoying, though... it *ought* to work |
| 09:31.33 | BL4 | have you tried diffing it with a freebsd compatible version? |
| 09:31.58 | maquis | that's what i'm doing... but there's way too much code, and i haven't the slightest idea what i'm looking for to find the problem |
| 09:32.09 | maquis | so, mainly, i'm diffing the makefiles |
| 09:32.40 | maquis | the makefile i'm looking at right now is almost 800 lines long, though |
| 09:32.45 | maquis | so, it's a bit of a pain |
| 09:32.53 | maquis | and i don't get why it's not working |
| 09:33.13 | maquis | i know that the source is going into the library... and the library is being explicitly mentioned when it goes to link |
| 09:33.19 | BL4 | well, if you know what version of bzflag it orignated from.... you could do a diff of the origial bzflag with a compatable one...that my cut down on the amount of different code to go through |
| 09:33.29 | maquis | but for some reason, it's claiming that a particular class doesn't exist, when it goes to link |
| 09:33.54 | maquis | that doesn't seem to me like something that should vary between linux and fbsd |
| 09:34.06 | BL4 | it turned out I was missing and include or I didn't add enough compiler options |
| 09:34.37 | maquis | i finally got all the include file compile errors to go away this afternoon |
| 09:34.46 | maquis | lol |
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| 09:35.06 | maquis | but i'm happy |
| 09:35.11 | maquis | i passed all my classes |
| 09:35.30 | maquis | sucky gpa for the semester... |
| 09:35.33 | maquis | but passed |
| 09:35.37 | BL4 | yay, I know that feeling....wishes that I got a better grade than a D in Calc 2 |
| 09:35.56 | BL4 | of course, those few incompletes and F's don't help much |
| 09:37.40 | BL4 | ah, but that was a year or two ago |
| 09:38.21 | BL4 | so you just have one function that the linker can't seem to find? |
| 09:39.01 | BL4 | excuse me, class |
| 09:42.28 | BL4 | maquis: my ability to focus has bit the dust for the night, good luck with your porting project |
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| 09:46.03 | maquis | oops... |
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| 12:18.55 | emcnabb | good morning all |
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| 12:56.02 | goozbach | morning |
| 12:56.04 | goozbach | not good |
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| 13:21.18 | Migs | WTF, it's Friday? Wow, that made this day 250% better. |
| 13:22.03 | goozbach | frodaay |
| 13:22.28 | goozbach | so I made some AWESOME psork chops last nite |
| 13:23.42 | emcnabb | psork? that sounds gross |
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| 13:28.45 | goozbach | pork |
| 13:28.49 | goozbach | stupid fingers |
| 13:29.12 | goozbach | apple stuffed porkchops with rosemary garlic roasted potatoes |
| 13:29.15 | goozbach | hmmmmmmm good |
| 13:32.03 | emcnabb | yum |
| 13:33.13 | Jayce^ | mm, company bbq for lunch today |
| 13:33.19 | Jayce^ | tri-tip provided :) |
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| 13:33.34 | redbeard1 | goozbach? chops? |
| 13:38.24 | emcnabb | Jayce^: get back to work |
| 13:39.29 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, get a job |
| 13:40.02 | redbeard1 | what the heck? Jayce^ tells me goozback is in here talking about chops, and the only choppage here is happening between Jayce^ and emcnabb |
| 13:40.10 | goozbach | redbeard1: yup |
| 13:40.13 | goozbach | they were tasty |
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| 13:40.21 | redbeard1 | ah, choppage |
| 13:40.32 | emcnabb | um... I have a job :-) |
| 13:40.35 | goozbach | I doubled the brine (other than the salt) |
| 13:40.52 | redbeard1 | oh good. i was thinking about that. |
| 13:40.59 | goozbach | I made 4 |
| 13:41.05 | redbeard1 | 4 cups? |
| 13:41.09 | goozbach | chops |
| 13:41.19 | goozbach | 2 cups apple juice |
| 13:41.41 | redbeard1 | ah, awesome |
| 13:41.42 | Jayce^ | fear redbeard1 in a sombrero... |
| 13:41.42 | goozbach | oh wait I had 4 cups apple juice |
| 13:42.09 | goozbach | 1/2 + 1/5 cups kosher salt |
| 13:42.24 | goozbach | 2 1/2 tsp peppercorns |
| 13:43.04 | goozbach | they only brined for abt 20min |
| 13:43.13 | goozbach | (it was late and everyone was hungry) |
| 13:43.30 | redbeard1 | were they still pretty well seasoned? |
| 13:43.46 | goozbach | yeah, they could have stood for another half hour |
| 13:44.00 | goozbach | I cut the chops open before I brined them |
| 13:44.33 | goozbach | then I stuffed them with the sauteed apples, seared them in a hot skillet |
| 13:44.38 | goozbach | then broiled them |
| 13:44.51 | goozbach | very extremely tasty |
| 13:45.00 | goozbach | I cheated on the potatoes however |
| 13:45.11 | redbeard1 | no rosemary potatoes? |
| 13:45.18 | goozbach | I bought the bag of pre-cooked pre-seasoned potatoes |
| 13:45.41 | redbeard1 | ah. |
| 13:45.42 | goozbach | rosmary garlic red potatoes |
| 13:45.56 | goozbach | I got a pic of how they turned out |
| 13:46.05 | goozbach | they looked really good |
| 13:46.45 | goozbach | the tops and edges of the chops were just a touch charred, the apples very soft and syurpy |
| 13:47.04 | redbeard1 | oh man. |
| 13:47.07 | redbeard1 | you blog it? |
| 13:47.16 | goozbach | I will when I get home this afternoon |
| 13:47.37 | goozbach | super tastariffic |
| 13:48.27 | goozbach | my GF is quite impressed my my culinary prowess |
| 13:48.41 | ^Migs^ | chicks did men that cook |
| 13:48.42 | goozbach | s/my my/by my/ |
| 13:48.43 | ^Migs^ | *dig |
| 13:49.02 | goozbach | ahh MISSPELING ARE EVERYWHERE |
| 13:49.06 | goozbach | !!! |
| 13:49.10 | ^Migs^ | OH NOES!@!@!@!!1111 |
| 13:49.31 | redbeard1 | whoa! ibot does regexp? |
| 13:49.42 | goozbach | yup |
| 13:49.46 | redbeard1 | i like that bot. |
| 13:50.12 | goozbach | I wish I could have grilled them over mesquite briquetts |
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| 13:50.19 | goozbach | that would have made my day |
| 13:50.32 | goozbach | and then sjansen showed up and ruined it all |
| 13:50.55 | Jayce^ | that would put a damper on things |
| 13:51.26 | maquis | -lart goozbach |
| 13:52.06 | emcnabb | sjansen ruins everything |
| 13:52.32 | emcnabb | earlier this week I had a bad headache |
| 13:52.42 | emcnabb | it was probably sjansen's fault somehow |
| 13:52.53 | maquis | emcnabb: did sjansen ruin your headache? |
| 13:53.11 | emcnabb | I wish |
| 13:53.21 | maquis | so, he doesn't quite ruin everything.... |
| 13:53.33 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 13:54.24 | sjansen | ~hug #utah |
| 13:54.25 | ibot | ACTION hugs #utah |
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| 13:54.54 | maquis | ~ostracize sjansen |
| 13:54.56 | sjansen | ~flunk maquis |
| 13:54.58 | ibot | ACTION gives maquis a big fat F |
| 13:54.59 | maquis | sjansen: too late |
| 13:55.04 | maquis | grades came in last night for last term |
| 13:55.09 | maquis | i passed :P |
| 13:55.18 | ^Migs^ | congrats, maquis |
| 13:55.23 | maquis | you'll have to wait til the end of this term to flunk me |
| 13:55.27 | maquis | ^Migs^: thanks |
| 13:56.30 | sjansen | maquis: we have ways of changing that, you know |
| 13:57.46 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:05.33 | goozbach | sjansen: howsit going? |
| 14:05.44 | goozbach | and where you be at this week? |
| 14:07.46 | sjansen | I'm in Columbus, OH running an RHCE cert exam. Things were a little bumpy this morning, but are going well now. |
| 14:09.18 | sjansen | goozbach: This is my third week on the road. I'm going to NJ next week. Looks like I'm the new guru gooz. |
| 14:12.00 | emcnabb | sjansen: don't eat too much; I gained 20 lbs my first month of traveling (I was constantly on the road) |
| 14:15.54 | ^Migs^ | what's wrong with gaining 20 lbs? |
| 14:16.02 | ^Migs^ | it's nice healthy flab |
| 14:18.55 | goozbach | sjansen: done much with apache FOP? |
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| 14:19.19 | goozbach | what Folding Object processor do you recomend? |
| 14:19.24 | sjansen | only a little, used it when I was evaluating xsl-fo |
| 14:19.28 | goozbach | s/what/which/ |
| 14:20.05 | goozbach | is xiphias doing xsl-fo? |
| 14:24.47 | sjansen | no, I determined that xsl-fo doesn't provide enough control over layout to meet our needs |
| 14:25.08 | sjansen | folding objects? don't you mean formatting objects? |
| 14:25.17 | goozbach | yeah |
| 14:25.43 | sjansen | fop is the best free implementation, I didn't both with any non-free xsl-fo processors |
| 14:27.00 | sjansen | goozbach: you might be interested in http://www.princexml.com/ |
| 14:27.04 | brac | [Prince: What's New] |
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| 14:31.04 | sjansen | it uses css to format xml, it can do almost everything xsl-fo can, several things xsl-fo can't, and I think it's much easier to learn |
| 14:31.27 | ^Migs^ | http://www.thebricktestament.com/ |
| 14:31.29 | brac | [The Brick Testament] |
| 14:35.22 | sjansen | uhm, wow, joshua is surprisingly explicit |
| 14:35.42 | ^Migs^ | hehe |
| 14:39.22 | emcnabb | that's cool |
| 14:41.09 | ^Migs^ | yeah, it's great |
| 14:41.22 | ^Migs^ | I can only imagine how many hours of work went into all that |
| 14:44.16 | sjansen | http://www.thebricktestament.com/joshua/second_circumcision/jos05_04.html |
| 14:44.17 | brac | [The Brick Testament] |
| 14:44.36 | sjansen | http://www.thebricktestament.com/joshua/second_circumcision/jos05_05.html |
| 14:44.37 | brac | [The Brick Testament] |
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| 14:48.18 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 14:48.22 | maquis | http://www.improveverywhere.com/ <-- part of what i was up late reading |
| 14:48.23 | brac | [Improv Everywhere: We Cause Scenes] |
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| 15:10.37 | tensai | maquis: heh. me too. that best buy thing cracked me up. |
| 15:13.26 | tensai | first hit to an email address in my spam test |
| 15:14.03 | jsmith | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 15:14.08 | ibot | dataw0lf <n=derelikt@70.103.239.58> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 1d 22h 20m 55s ago, saying: 'time to fly!'. |
| 15:14.15 | jsmith | Did his helicopter crash? |
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| 15:21.13 | maquis | tensai: my favorite was the suicide jumper :) |
| 15:21.46 | tensai | maquis: I only read best buy and no pants 2k6, then had to go back in to work. |
| 15:22.06 | maquis | tensai: when you get a chance, read the suicide jumper :) |
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| 15:35.56 | levi | Morning. |
| 15:36.27 | linuxalien | morning |
| 15:40.39 | ^Migs^ | what's the difference between absent and truant in school terms? |
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| 15:42.49 | levi | ^Migs^: Why are you asking us? You work with schools. :) |
| 15:44.24 | ^Migs^ | I pasted this in the wrong place, sorry |
| 15:44.36 | levi | The dictionary says truancy is inexcused absence. |
| 15:45.13 | ^Migs^ | yeah, but we also have two kinds of absences. Absent and Excused Absence. And in some places on student attendance records it says "Absent-Truant" and in others just "Absent" |
| 15:45.32 | ^Migs^ | but this is neither here nor there |
| 15:45.35 | ^Migs^ | well, it's here, but not there |
| 15:47.25 | levi | Truant is such a nice old word. Sounds more official or something. |
| 15:48.37 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 15:52.40 | jsimpson | tensai / maquis: talking about improv anywhere? |
| 15:52.53 | jsimpson | err everywhere |
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| 16:28.45 | ^Migs^ | mann, I'm really farting it up |
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| 16:46.15 | sjansen | hey, wait a minute, I can breath, I don't have a stuffed up nose |
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| 16:51.38 | levi | sjansen: Way to go. |
| 16:52.05 | levi | sjansen: Now you can stop being a mouth breather, eh? ;) |
| 16:52.57 | sjansen | I never was a mouth breather. I just survive on a reduced supply of oxygen to the brain. |
| 16:53.26 | Jayce^ | it shows |
| 16:53.52 | sjansen | Maybe that's why I used to be a good student, but went wrong somewhere... |
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| 16:54.57 | levi | You used to be a good student? I don't believe it. |
| 16:55.38 | ^Migs^ | I was an okay student. Not a great student. |
| 16:56.18 | levi | I'm a pretty good student now. I used to be an abysmal one. |
| 17:03.37 | sjansen | I had a 3.95 after my first semster at BYU in the Honors program. Fell to a 3.9 after the second semester. BYU awarded National Merit Scholar... until I lost it for academic reasons after my mission. Things were going well until I discovered Linux... |
| 17:04.09 | ^Migs^ | I think I had a 3.3 |
| 17:04.11 | sjansen | Now there's a marketing campaign if ever I saw one -> Linux: It makes you stupider. |
| 17:04.12 | ^Migs^ | at Weber State |
| 17:04.37 | ^Migs^ | my first year was awful. I did well after serving a mission. Gave me more discipline. But I never quite made up for the first year. |
| 17:04.46 | levi | sjansen: OK, I guess you did used to be a good student. :) |
| 17:04.46 | sjansen | Actually, I think it was a 3.93 after the second semester. I think I earned a 3.9 the second semester. |
| 17:05.03 | ^Migs^ | wow you suck sjansen |
| 17:05.08 | sjansen | yeah |
| 17:05.12 | levi | My first year at BYU sucked. I flunked the entire second semester. |
| 17:05.56 | levi | I did well for the first year after my mission, but then I tanked again and got kicked out on academic suspension. |
| 17:06.55 | ^Migs^ | the only thing appealing about BYU is not having to pay nonresident fees. Otherwise I would hate going there. Pretty much just because of the students. |
| 17:07.05 | ^Migs^ | I'd hate to be around so many people all the time that share the same ideology I do |
| 17:07.52 | sjansen | ^Migs^: So give up Windows and go Linux only. |
| 17:07.59 | levi | That didn't bother me. I was only annoyed by what I viewed as excessive assigned busywork. |
| 17:08.22 | sjansen | levi: You mean homework. ;-) |
| 17:08.53 | sjansen | ~celebrate cinco de mayo |
| 17:10.00 | ^Migs^ | that wouldn't solve anything. Everyone around me uses Linux. What I should do is find some OS NOBODY uses |
| 17:10.48 | levi | ^Migs^: You could run the hurd... |
| 17:10.59 | ^Migs^ | yup |
| 17:11.03 | sjansen | shoot, levi beat me to the punch |
| 17:11.03 | ^Migs^ | a herd of 1 |
| 17:11.47 | sjansen | ^Migs^: I'm sure mheath would love to get you learn the Hurd. Just remember to call it GNU/Hurd os some silly junk like that. |
| 17:11.58 | sjansen | s/os/or/ |
| 17:12.01 | ^Migs^ | oh, the Hurd? What's that? |
| 17:12.37 | ^Migs^ | okay |
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| 17:14.06 | levi | It's the HIRD of Unix Replacing Daemons, and HIRD stands for something else that I don't remember that has HURD in it. |
| 17:14.23 | sjansen | ~hurd |
| 17:14.24 | ibot | from memory, hurd is The GNU Hurd is the GNU project's replacement for the Unix kernel. http://hurd.gnu.org/ It stands for HIRD of UNIX Replacing Daemons. The Hurd is a collection of servers that run on the Mach microkernel, and on l4 in the future, to implement file systems, network protocols, file access control, and other features that are implemented by the ... |
| 17:14.25 | sjansen | ~hird |
| 17:14.27 | ibot | i heard hird is Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth |
| 17:14.36 | levi | Um, yeah. |
| 17:14.41 | levi | Just ask mheath about it. |
| 17:14.47 | ^Migs^ | it's a recursive acronym |
| 17:14.48 | levi | He'll tell you how way cool it is. |
| 17:16.03 | levi | I want one of these: http://www.fastcar.co.uk/New_supercharger_really_shifts.YTW4rnJoa2rmWw.html |
| 17:16.13 | sjansen | Just remember, the Hurd is just a kernel. You probably want a full system like Debian/Gnome/Xorg/Vim/Xine/Firefox/scorched3d/GNU/Hurd. Otherwise mheath'll get all pedantic on you. |
| 17:17.01 | levi | Or you could go retro and run OS/2 |
| 17:17.18 | levi | Or BeOS. |
| 17:17.32 | levi | All the hip kids used to run BeOS. |
| 17:17.37 | sjansen | Contiki! ... they even have ethernet cards and a web server for it |
| 17:18.19 | levi | And Contiki has funky cool evil C tricks in it. |
| 17:19.44 | levi | To do protothreads. |
| 17:19.54 | levi | They're sorta like coroutines in C. |
| 17:20.29 | levi | I believe they're implemented in a manner reminiscent of Duff's Device. |
| 17:20.43 | levi | I.e. horrible abuse of the switch statement. |
| 17:20.57 | levi | But the effect is certainly nifty. |
| 17:21.48 | levi | Your threads don't get their own stack, though. |
| 17:26.05 | scottj | at least as far as OSes goes :) |
| 17:26.12 | levi | And programming languages! |
| 17:29.43 | sjansen | Ruby forever! |
| 17:29.54 | redbeard1 | ~lart sjansen |
| 17:30.06 | sjansen | redbeard1: You're just jealous. |
| 17:30.14 | redbeard1 | i'm not a doctor, but i hope that hurt |
| 17:42.05 | sjansen | ~hurt redbeard1 |
| 17:42.07 | ibot | ACTION takes a large hammer and plays whack-the-mole on redbeard1's hands, laughing all the while |
| 17:42.29 | goozbach | FYI: recompiling ALL the src.rpms from RHEL takes a LONG time |
| 17:42.37 | goozbach | going on three days now |
| 17:42.54 | goozbach | in a quad proc, 2.6Ghz machine |
| 17:43.03 | goozbach | with 8G of ram |
| 17:43.45 | levi | I imagine it does. |
| 17:43.45 | jsmith | goozbach: And CentOS doesn't do it for you? |
| 17:45.36 | sjansen | goozbach: Have you ever considered shaving your head and painting it pink? |
| 17:45.57 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 17:46.04 | emcnabb | I feel better now |
| 17:46.26 | sjansen | ~punish emcnabb |
| 17:46.28 | ibot | ACTION forces emcnabb to install and use Windows |
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| 17:46.49 | sjansen | emcnabb: take that you evil doer! |
| 17:47.53 | emcnabb | ~dog emcnabb |
| 17:47.55 | ibot | ACTION stares at emcnabb until emcnabb whimpers and pees all over himself. |
| 17:49.06 | emcnabb | Tuxie (our puppy) does that sometimes; it's funny because she's more likely to get scared and pee when a little kid comes up to her than an adult |
| 17:49.34 | goozbach | shaving my head and painting it pink? |
| 17:49.44 | goozbach | why yes I have |
| 17:49.45 | emcnabb | kids don't always understand "gentle" |
| 17:50.04 | emcnabb | goozbach: I would think you would be more of a purple |
| 17:50.17 | goozbach | well shave and paint yes |
| 17:50.23 | goozbach | I hadn't settled on a color yet |
| 17:50.28 | emcnabb | gotcha |
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| 17:50.48 | sjansen | emcnabb is read |
| 17:50.53 | sjansen | emcnabb is red |
| 17:51.04 | Jayce^ | sjansen is blue |
| 17:51.21 | sjansen | Jayce^ is stinky |
| 17:51.28 | nick125 | wait...everyone is blue |
| 17:51.45 | SpecialK | sjansen: is gray |
| 17:51.58 | emcnabb | SpecialK: yes, sjansen is old and grey |
| 17:52.04 | emcnabb | that's why we call him gramps |
| 17:52.14 | sjansen | emcnabb: get off my lawn, punk! |
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| 17:53.17 | ^Migs^ | Someone is talking to me in the Groupwise Messenger and wants me to call her. |
| 17:53.25 | ^Migs^ | ANYTHING she needs can be conveyed through the messenger. |
| 17:53.42 | ^Migs^ | moreover, I can log anything they tell me. I can't do that on the phone |
| 17:53.43 | sjansen | maybe she has a hard time typing |
| 17:53.51 | emcnabb | is she cute? |
| 17:53.55 | sjansen | maybe she's about to throw her computer out the window and wants to let you hear |
| 17:54.08 | ^Migs^ | I don't know. She's an administrator. Probably not. |
| 17:54.38 | sjansen | ^Migs^: Just start the conversation with "I'm recording this conversation." |
| 17:55.06 | mrpull- | ^Migs^: pick up the phone |
| 17:55.11 | mrpull- | sometimes it is easier |
| 17:55.13 | sjansen | If that affect the message, it'll probably be good for you. If it doesn't, at least it'll be fun to see how she reacts. |
| 17:55.42 | emcnabb | or say "this call is being recorded for quality assurance" |
| 17:55.50 | emcnabb | then she'll think you really care |
| 17:55.59 | sjansen | And remember, she's faced with the same limits as you. Tell her to run fdisk, then deny it later. |
| 17:57.06 | nick125 | hehe |
| 17:57.16 | sjansen | If you don't call her, she'll just track down your number. At least by calling her, you stand a better chance of keeping your number secret. |
| 17:57.35 | SpecialK | wow, those are the best grades I've had in a couple of years |
| 17:57.43 | ^Migs^ | she already knows my number. If she wants to call me, she can. |
| 17:58.07 | sjansen | well, then change your number! |
| 17:58.14 | ^Migs^ | It's really stupid. Sometimes I even have people who send me an email just to ask me when it would be convenient to bring me a floppy disk with some stuff. |
| 18:03.41 | ^Migs^ | I think she is a slow typist. I'm pretending I didn't see her request to call her and just finishing our business through the messenger. I solved her problem while she was typing the details about what she wanted. :) |
| 18:19.15 | sjansen | ~curse emcnabb |
| 18:19.17 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, emcnabb ! |
| 18:19.23 | sjansen | ~swear at emcnabb |
| 18:19.58 | sjansen | stupid bot |
| 18:22.27 | SpecialK | http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/anavabi/mp3/MC%20Plus+%20-%20Algorhythms%20-%20Alice%20and%20Bob.mp3 |
| 18:23.06 | SpecialK | I just know it would be used in CS465:security if he didn't swear in the chorus |
| 18:23.53 | *** join/#utah findlay (n=justin@67.137.24.114) |
| 18:24.06 | findlay | ~lart ESR |
| 18:24.27 | findlay | does anybody here know mysql at least moderately well? |
| 18:28.17 | harleypig | Anyone got a spare $2500 kicking around? http://blog.scifi.com/tech/archives/samsung_ups_the_brightness_with_new_led_tv.html |
| 18:28.19 | brac | [SCI FI Tech] |
| 18:29.03 | ^Migs^ | let me check my wallet |
| 18:29.08 | sjansen | ~sheep sjansen |
| 18:29.09 | ^Migs^ | hmmm, no |
| 18:30.01 | harleypig | -urls |
| 18:30.01 | brac | [2006/05/05 12:28:18] <harleypig> http://blog.scifi.com/tech/archives/samsung_ups_the_brightness_with_new_led_tv.html |
| 18:30.01 | brac | [2006/05/05 12:22:53] <SpecialK> http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/anavabi/mp3/MC%20Plus+%20-%20Algorhythms%20-%20Alice%20and%20Bob.mp3 |
| 18:30.01 | brac | [2006/05/05 11:16:04] <levi> http://www.fastcar.co.uk/New_supercharger_really_shifts.YTW4rnJoa2rmWw.html |
| 18:30.02 | brac | [2006/05/05 11:14:25] <ibot> http://hurd.gnu.org/ |
| 18:30.06 | lars-ut | harleypig: crap is that the color LED model? If so they've lowered the price about $6,000 |
| 18:30.27 | harleypig | yeah |
| 18:30.32 | ^Migs^ | that's....beautiful |
| 18:30.55 | ^Migs^ | Time to open an RC Willey card |
| 18:31.34 | harleypig | heh |
| 18:32.03 | harleypig | I like the led back light idea ... I hope they gave whatever engineer came up iwth it more than a pat on the back. |
| 18:32.48 | lars-ut | RC Willey - secong largest lender in all Utah |
| 18:32.56 | lars-ut | s/secong/second |
| 18:34.30 | lars-ut | 4,000:1 contrast ? |
| 18:34.36 | lars-ut | nice. |
| 18:43.59 | sjansen | boring |
| 18:45.29 | emcnabb | vontrapp: that's a somewhat "snappy" IM away/busy message you have there |
| 18:47.07 | sjansen | ~snap emcnabb |
| 18:48.18 | vontrapp | emcnabb: hehe, i was just playing around with the presets |
| 18:49.07 | emcnabb | haha, ok |
| 18:50.56 | sjansen | ~haha emcnabb |
| 18:50.57 | ibot | ACTION beats emcnabb about the head with the ha ha bat |
| 18:53.23 | vontrapp | ~lart {-} |
| 18:54.39 | *** join/#utah pmcnabb (n=peter@12.210.54.188) |
| 18:56.48 | emcnabb | ~lart pmcnabb |
| 18:57.49 | ^Migs^ | exactly how many mcnabbs are there? |
| 18:57.55 | spr | 3 |
| 18:58.04 | ^Migs^ | that's not too bad |
| 18:58.07 | findlay | enough |
| 18:58.21 | ^Migs^ | 4 mcnabbs would definitely be too much |
| 18:59.53 | findlay | ~clone(^Migs^,4); |
| 19:00.21 | pmcnabb | we've had 4 at once |
| 19:00.28 | pmcnabb | e, l, a, and p |
| 19:00.29 | emcnabb | there are 4 McNabb boys |
| 19:00.39 | emcnabb | my wife has come on IRC before |
| 19:00.51 | emcnabb | and our Dad is a Unix guy |
| 19:00.55 | pmcnabb | ~lart emcnabb |
| 19:00.58 | emcnabb | but not an IRCer |
| 19:01.17 | spr | ~lart *mcnabb |
| 19:11.39 | findlay | ~lart RPMs |
| 19:12.29 | pmcnabb | ~karma emcnabb |
| 19:12.29 | ibot | emcnabb has karma of -2 |
| 19:14.31 | graphyx | ~karma graphyx |
| 19:14.31 | ibot | graphyx has neutral karma |
| 19:14.59 | emcnabb | ~karma emcnabb |
| 19:14.59 | ibot | emcnabb has karma of -2 |
| 19:15.07 | emcnabb | ~karma sjansen |
| 19:15.07 | ibot | sjansen has karma of 2 |
| 19:15.16 | emcnabb | what the... |
| 19:15.18 | pmcnabb | tsk tsk, emcnabb |
| 19:19.15 | {-} | pmcnabb++ |
| 19:20.27 | pmcnabb | my birthday was in february, sorry.. |
| 19:20.28 | emcnabb | pmcnabb: you stay from {-}, you hear me now? |
| 19:21.09 | {-} | psst, pmcnabb, wanna buy and OS? |
| 19:21.27 | emcnabb | um... no |
| 19:23.25 | pmcnabb | i hear that in soviet russia i can get my OS for free |
| 19:24.20 | findlay | I thought the OS buys you |
| 19:27.24 | emcnabb | time to grade my last exam... :-( |
| 19:28.46 | pmcnabb | ~lart exams |
| 19:29.31 | {-} | ~mourn emcnabb |
| 19:29.33 | ibot | ACTION lights some candles for emcnabb |
| 19:43.23 | pmcnabb | ~cookie mcnabb |
| 19:48.14 | ^Migs^ | http://news.com.com/Suit+accuses+Google+of+profiting+from+child+porn/2100-1030_3-6069014.html |
| 19:48.16 | brac | [Suit accuses Google of profiting from child porn | CNET News.com] |
| 19:48.34 | maquis | pmcnabb: you had a question or something? |
| 19:49.40 | maquis | -lart mcnabbs |
| 19:49.48 | nick125 | ^Migs^: what a load of crap |
| 19:51.20 | harleypig | Is it tensai that is the ubuntu guy? |
| 19:53.55 | pmcnabb | -weather KPVU |
| 19:53.55 | brac | 19 minutes ago, on Fri May 05 19:35:00 UTC 2006, the wind was blowing at a speed of 2.57 meters per second (5.75 miles per hour) from the West/Southwest at KPVU. The temperature was 14 degrees Celsius (57 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1015 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 54.6%. The sky was clear. |
| 19:54.02 | levi | Mmmmm, green curry. |
| 19:55.28 | pmcnabb | -rps rock |
| 19:55.28 | brac | rock. We tie. |
| 19:55.32 | pmcnabb | -rps rock |
| 19:55.32 | brac | paper! I win! |
| 19:55.33 | brac | ~lart pmcnabb |
| 19:55.39 | ^Migs^ | yes, it is a load of crap |
| 19:55.52 | pmcnabb | -rps rock |
| 19:55.52 | brac | scissors. You win. |
| 19:55.54 | ^Migs^ | I really don't think some of these lawyers understand anything about the Internet |
| 19:56.07 | redbeard1 | i don't know how i feel about bots running commands on other bots |
| 19:56.17 | maquis | ~dog pmcnabb |
| 19:56.19 | ibot | ACTION stares at pmcnabb until pmcnabb whimpers and pees all over himself. |
| 19:56.31 | lars-ut | I don't like and won't vote for Hatch, but I'll give him props for this one: |
| 19:56.32 | lars-ut | http://www.wcsh6.com/home/article.asp?id=34885 |
| 19:56.35 | brac | [New Page 1] |
| 19:56.47 | lars-ut | [Senate Passes Crackdown On Child Sex Offenders] |
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| 19:58.03 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.13 | lars-ut | levi: thai? |
| 19:58.44 | ^Migs^ | meh, Hatch is okay |
| 19:58.53 | lars-ut | <cough> |
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| 19:59.31 | ^Migs^ | who are you going to vote for? |
| 19:59.34 | ^Migs^ | ;) |
| 19:59.59 | lars-ut | "Hatch has terrorized techies from his Washington perch by sponsoring the much-loathed DMCA. He's on record saying it'd be a good idea to let entertainment companies remotely destroy the computers of those they suspect of copyright infringement. And he's a co-sponsor of the Induce Act, a moribund bill that aimed to hold tech companies responsible for creating devices that could be used to pirate digital content." |
| 19:59.59 | lars-ut | http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,70761-0.html?tw=wn_index_2 |
| 20:00.01 | brac | [Wired News: Can Techie Oust Orrin Hatch?] |
| 20:00.40 | ^Migs^ | yes, I've read the article. Pete Ashdown, while I like his approach to technology, he's still your typical sneaky twisted issue-avoiding Democrat |
| 20:00.44 | emcnabb | off to the airport... later all |
| 20:00.55 | lars-ut | I won't vote for the DMCA. I'm voting for Pete Ashdown, the democratic candidate, but you already know that ^Migs^ |
| 20:01.04 | ^Migs^ | no I didn't actually |
| 20:01.24 | lars-ut | maybe I need to express my opinions more often |
| 20:01.24 | ^Migs^ | unless he kicks it up a notch, Ashdown's campaign is really a joke |
| 20:01.44 | lars-ut | he certainly doesn't have hatch's funding |
| 20:01.50 | ^Migs^ | well, there's that too |
| 20:02.11 | levi | lars-ut: Yup, Thai Delight. |
| 20:02.17 | lars-ut | plus, if you vote against Hatch, you're now voting against children! |
| 20:02.34 | lars-ut | levi: yummy. |
| 20:02.42 | levi | lars-ut: Really yummy. |
| 20:02.54 | lars-ut | levi: my sweetie makes great green curry |
| 20:02.55 | ^Migs^ | and you DO love children, don't you? |
| 20:03.07 | lars-ut | she lived in Thailand for a bit |
| 20:03.17 | lars-ut | ^Migs^: lol |
| 20:03.37 | levi | lars-ut: Awesome. :) My sweetie just asks if we can go to Thai Delight fairly regularly. ;) |
| 20:03.51 | ^Migs^ | exactly which of Pete Ashdown's views do you agree with? |
| 20:04.16 | lars-ut | ^Migs^: the old-style democrat stuff, for one |
| 20:04.24 | ^Migs^ | such as? |
| 20:04.33 | lars-ut | his communicating with the people, |
| 20:04.55 | ^Migs^ | that's a method, not a view |
| 20:05.06 | ^Migs^ | on which issues do you share an agreement with? |
| 20:05.13 | harleypig | ^Migs^: It's a demonstration of a view |
| 20:05.24 | *** join/#utah BL4 (n=Bl4QKUBA@3-1-15.ore.fiber.net) |
| 20:05.34 | harleypig | He believes in openess and he practices it. |
| 20:05.41 | lars-ut | "Freedom to live without needless government intrusion", |
| 20:05.59 | ^Migs^ | I like his view on capital punishment |
| 20:06.01 | lars-ut | "Open access and open collaboration with government", |
| 20:06.12 | harleypig | ^Migs^: That's one I disagree with. |
| 20:06.15 | ^Migs^ | I will give him that |
| 20:06.28 | lars-ut | I think he represents me more than Hatch does |
| 20:06.40 | lars-ut | I believe in the ideal of a representative govt |
| 20:06.41 | ^Migs^ | and moreso than the other candidates? |
| 20:06.46 | lars-ut | yes |
| 20:07.38 | lars-ut | I also think his views line up closer to states rights than Hatch's federalism/internationalism |
| 20:07.49 | lars-ut | but that's just me |
| 20:07.51 | ^Migs^ | ok |
| 20:07.54 | ^Migs^ | I understand |
| 20:08.39 | {-} | Fly, my winged monkey, fly! |
| 20:08.55 | findlay | I want a winged monkey |
| 20:09.10 | lars-ut | I'll vote for who I feel represents me best. That usually ends up being a someone running under one of 3 parties. |
| 20:09.22 | lars-ut | Libertarian or Republicrat. |
| 20:09.35 | lars-ut | that about covers it |
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| 20:12.33 | lars-ut | well, not really. http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/indus.asp?CID=N00009869&cycle=2002 |
| 20:12.46 | ^Migs^ | I'm seriously thinking of voting for the Constitutional party this year. |
| 20:13.06 | lars-ut | good for you. I've liked what I've read from them |
| 20:13.40 | lars-ut | [Orrin G. Hatch: Campaign Finance/Money - Contributions - Senate 2002] |
| 20:13.45 | lars-ut | brac! |
| 20:13.46 | brac | lars-ut: 'sup? |
| 20:13.58 | lars-ut | -kick brac in the chops |
| 20:14.11 | lars-ut | ~kick brac in the chops |
| 20:14.13 | ibot | bugger off sod! |
| 20:14.45 | lars-ut | whoa there ibot... good thing this isn't #uk |
| 20:15.41 | lars-ut | sometimes that tilde in front of a word is more emphatic than expected |
| 20:20.40 | levi | "What does that really mean, and how would I find out?" |
| 20:30.45 | maquis | ~dog levi |
| 20:30.46 | ibot | ACTION stares at levi until levi whimpers and pees all over himself. |
| 20:35.04 | ^Migs^ | ibot has a lot of British euphemisms |
| 20:35.08 | ^Migs^ | why is he British anyway? |
| 20:35.19 | lars-ut | ~bloke |
| 20:35.26 | redbeard1 | ~blimey |
| 20:35.30 | lars-ut | ~twit |
| 20:35.32 | ^Migs^ | ~crikey |
| 20:35.34 | ^Migs^ | ~mate |
| 20:35.35 | ibot | well, mate is some one you like to talk to, similar to a friend, a pitman, a chum, a pal, a buddy, or rather a companion or fellow. aka m8 |
| 20:35.36 | ^Migs^ | ~nappie |
| 20:35.42 | lars-ut | ~boot |
| 20:35.44 | ibot | it has been said that boot is what you get when you act like a DalNet user, or #debian-boot |
| 20:35.46 | ^Migs^ | flat |
| 20:35.47 | ^Migs^ | ~flat |
| 20:35.50 | ibot | flat is probably adj. 1. Lacking any complex internal structure. "That {bitty box} has only a flat filesystem, not a hierarchical one." The verb form is flatten. 2. Said of a memory architecture (like that of the VAX or 680x0) that is one big linear address space (typically with each possible value of a processor register corresponding to a unique core address), ... |
| 20:35.50 | ^Migs^ | ~lift |
| 20:36.00 | goozbach | I'm glad that ~dog is so popular |
| 20:36.05 | redbeard1 | ~define bloke |
| 20:36.13 | redbeard1 | oh well |
| 20:36.32 | Jayce^ | goozbach, glad I could leave a long lasting remark on #utah :) |
| 20:36.40 | redbeard1 | ~dog Jayce^ |
| 20:36.43 | ibot | ACTION stares at Jayce^ until Jayce^ whimpers and pees all over himself. |
| 20:38.10 | ^Migs^ | ~dog |
| 20:38.12 | ibot | i guess dog is GUAF! GUAF! :D~~ |
| 20:40.16 | lars-ut | ~fortnight |
| 20:40.20 | lars-ut | ~pittance |
| 20:40.32 | lars-ut | ~MRF |
| 20:41.31 | BL4 | ~dictionary lart |
| 20:41.33 | ibot | see dict lart |
| 20:41.33 | mheath | someone with a decent buffer want to /lastlog mheath for me? |
| 20:41.46 | mheath | I keep forgetting to make my buffer bigger |
| 20:41.50 | BL4 | ~dict lart |
| 20:41.58 | BL4 | ~dict rlart |
| 20:42.08 | ^Migs^ | I had a good day today. I helped a student at one of my schools with his web design internship |
| 20:42.55 | ^Migs^ | and that's what it's really about. Helping the kids. |
| 20:43.14 | mheath | ^Migs^, cool. |
| 20:43.25 | mheath | Can *someone* please /lastlog mheath before I talk too much? |
| 20:43.26 | ^Migs^ | warm fuzzy feeling are abounding in my bosom |
| 20:43.29 | mheath | Someone said my name early |
| 20:43.33 | ^Migs^ | what's /lastlog? |
| 20:43.43 | nick125 | 11:15 <sjansen> Just remember, the Hurd is just a kernel. You probably want a full system like Debian/Gnome/Xorg/Vim/Xine/Firefox/scorched3d/GNU/Hurd. Otherwise mheath'll get all pedantic on you. |
| 20:43.58 | lars-ut | ~harridan |
| 20:43.59 | ibot | it has been said that harridan is HAIR-uh-din\, noun: A worn-out strumpet; a vixenish woman; a hag |
| 20:44.05 | nick125 | 11:11 <sjansen> ^Migs^: I'm sure mheath would love to get you learn the Hurd. Just remember to call it GNU/Hurd os some silly junk like that. |
| 20:44.20 | nick125 | 11:14 <levi> Just ask mheath about it. |
| 20:44.23 | nick125 | thats abuot it |
| 20:44.26 | nick125 | *about |
| 20:44.33 | ^Migs^ | calm down mheath |
| 20:44.44 | findlay | ~calm down |
| 20:44.45 | ibot | ACTION sooths down, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm down down. |
| 20:44.45 | mheath | Sigh. People are silly. I haven't had any real interest in the Hurd for like a year, and I still get these stupid comments =P |
| 20:45.03 | levi | mheath: I told you why you get them. |
| 20:45.06 | ^Migs^ | so I WOULD be the only one using it!? |
| 20:45.12 | findlay | ~calm up |
| 20:45.14 | ibot | ACTION sooths up, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm up down. |
| 20:45.36 | mheath | ^Migs^, of course not. Theres lots of people using it. GNU Mach is about to get a new release. Hurd is being worked on extensively, too |
| 20:45.58 | ^Migs^ | I want something NO ONE uses |
| 20:46.09 | ^Migs^ | makes me feel more unique |
| 20:46.13 | levi | ^Migs^: Once you start using it, it will be disqualified. |
| 20:46.15 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@128.123.214.207) |
| 20:46.21 | ^Migs^ | no one ELSE uses |
| 20:46.24 | mheath | ^Migs^, Amoeba |
| 20:46.36 | levi | ^Migs^: Well then... pick up an OS book and start writing. :) |
| 20:46.51 | ^Migs^ | or I could just use an obsolete version of an OS |
| 20:46.54 | ^Migs^ | that would work too |
| 20:47.21 | nick125 | windows 3.11! |
| 20:47.22 | levi | ^Migs^: No, I'm sure /someone/ else in the world uses your particular obsolute version of an OS. |
| 20:47.27 | mheath | ^Migs^, I'm telling you...Amoeba. |
| 20:47.41 | mheath | Only one place really used that, and they dropped it about 12 years ago |
| 20:48.02 | lars-ut | nice contrast on the mountain - my office window faces Mt Timpanogos |
| 20:48.18 | lars-ut | wish I could actually see the top today though |
| 20:48.30 | ^Migs^ | nah that's okay. I already lost interest in the idea. |
| 20:48.58 | findlay | lars-ut: I can see Timpanogas from my window too |
| 20:49.02 | levi | ^Migs^: Man, you go through ideas faster than mheath! |
| 20:49.25 | findlay | I didn't know we worked in the same building |
| 20:49.28 | lars-ut | I'm by the mouth of Provo Canyon off 800 North |
| 20:49.44 | lars-ut | a bit east of 1400 East |
| 20:49.52 | findlay | I'm way down in downtown Provo |
| 20:49.53 | mheath | levi, I really don't go through ideas. A lot come to me, and I never have the time to pursue any of them, because I don't have any free time |
| 20:50.10 | levi | mheath: Welcome to the world. |
| 20:50.32 | levi | mheath: The rest of us just don't go on at length for months at a time about the ideas we're not going to pursue and will lose interest in in a short while. |
| 20:50.33 | lars-ut | or was it red |
| 20:51.14 | ^Migs^ | levi: That's how we geniuses have to function. |
| 20:51.35 | lars-ut | genius seems to be LCD here |
| 20:51.36 | levi | Well, far be it from me to cramp the style of geniuses. Carry on, then. |
| 20:52.12 | lars-ut | levi: come on where's the talk of raising the bar? |
| 20:52.13 | ^Migs^ | anybody can come up with one good idea. But not everybody can come up with 1000 mediocre ideas with a 0.1% chance of one of them being a good idea in less than an hour |
| 20:52.27 | levi | So, I started reading the data sheet for the MCHCS08 yesterday. |
| 20:52.38 | lars-ut | MSDS? |
| 20:52.57 | levi | You've got to raise the bar before you can drive out of the parking lot! |
| 20:53.06 | lars-ut | oh yeah. |
| 20:53.34 | levi | They certainly cram a lot of nifty stuff into that little package. |
| 20:54.25 | levi | It's got RAM, flash, an internal clock generator, two serial devices, a i2c device, an analog-to-digital converter, and a few other random things I have less interest in. |
| 20:56.00 | *** join/#utah spr (n=spr@ramona.cs.byu.edu) |
| 20:56.11 | lars-ut | ~praise spr |
| 20:56.13 | ibot | All hail spr! |
| 20:56.53 | findlay | lars-ut: who do you work for? |
| 20:57.10 | lars-ut | findlay - If I tell you I'll have to kill you |
| 20:57.17 | lars-ut | & myself |
| 20:57.39 | findlay | ~tell |
| 20:57.58 | findlay | ~do tell |
| 20:58.04 | ibot | ACTION does tell. |
| 21:00.02 | lars-ut | mortgages & debt consolidation stuff |
| 21:01.47 | findlay | you're in a flexible position? |
| 21:01.49 | lars-ut | -lart lars-ut for saying "to be honest" |
| 21:02.38 | lars-ut | findlay: I'm able to have semi-flexible hours & enjoy my quality of work. My chair sucks though. |
| 21:02.50 | lars-ut | s/work/life |
| 21:02.59 | lars-ut | Sleudian Frip |
| 21:05.42 | findlay | ~rot12345 rpm |
| 21:05.42 | ibot | mkh |
| 21:07.15 | lars-ut | -lart findlay for self-reflection |
| 21:08.08 | redbeard1 | hey, i'm headed back to the london market tomorrow, did anyone want me to pick up that can of vegetarian haggis for them? |
| 21:08.24 | levi | Um, not for me, thanks. :) |
| 21:08.38 | pmcnabb | ~lart haggis |
| 21:09.03 | lars-ut | redbeard1: I should give you the $80 that was meant for dataw0lf(perpendicular drive) |
| 21:09.21 | redbeard1 | whoa. $80 worh of haggis. that's intense. |
| 21:09.26 | lars-ut | redbeard1: what can you buy from the market there for $80 that's nifty? |
| 21:09.26 | redbeard1 | it's only $5/can |
| 21:09.52 | redbeard1 | they have a harry potter section. i think the broomsticks were something like $68 |
| 21:10.24 | lars-ut | what about Narnia stuff? |
| 21:10.39 | redbeard1 | actually, i don't remember seeing narnia stuff. that seems odd. |
| 21:11.04 | redbeard1 | they have a website with most of the stuff on it, if you wanna look |
| 21:11.12 | lars-ut | link? |
| 21:11.17 | redbeard1 | http://www.thelondonmarket.net/ |
| 21:11.21 | brac | [London Market] |
| 21:11.41 | lars-ut | frac, brac, you work for redbeard1 but not me? |
| 21:16.56 | levi | I like Pirate O's. |
| 21:17.02 | levi | http://utah.citysearch.com/profile/10347192/draper_ut/pirate_o_s.html |
| 21:18.52 | redbeard1 | i've never heard of them before |
| 21:18.58 | redbeard1 | and yet, now i know i need to go there |
| 21:19.00 | levi | Cool store. |
| 21:19.04 | levi | http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600113526,00.html |
| 21:19.05 | brac | [deseretnews.com | Got a hankering for some squid ink pasta?] |
| 21:19.09 | redbeard1 | trader joes was great |
| 21:19.17 | levi | There's another location in Holladay. |
| 21:19.17 | redbeard1 | they have squid ink pasta? |
| 21:19.26 | levi | They have all sorts of crazy stuff. |
| 21:19.30 | redbeard1 | do they have squid ink? i've been looking for it (seriously) |
| 21:19.40 | levi | Oh, I guess the Holladay store closed. |
| 21:19.53 | levi | I dunno if they do. They have truffles and crazy-old balsalmic vinegar, though. |
| 21:20.14 | redbeard1 | is it bigger than liberty heights? |
| 21:20.24 | levi | I dunno. |
| 21:20.49 | redbeard1 | never been? |
| 21:21.24 | levi | Nope. |
| 21:21.43 | levi | The owner of Pirate O's is great, though. |
| 21:22.56 | goozbach | SWEET GREAT GRAPE MAYONASE!!! |
| 21:22.58 | goozbach | I just scored a short term contract |
| 21:23.12 | goozbach | $75/hour for ~20hrs |
| 21:23.28 | levi | redbeard1: So, I was there with these two girls, one of which would later become my wife. Some rich guy bought a tiny extremely expensive and very old bottle of balsalmic vinegar. The owner guy came to get it out of its case... and he dropped it. |
| 21:23.54 | levi | redbeard1: So, while he moved it to another container, he let us sample it! |
| 21:23.55 | redbeard1 | oh man. one of the $180 bottles? |
| 21:24.03 | levi | Yeah, something like that. |
| 21:24.04 | redbeard1 | wait, what? you got to try it? |
| 21:24.08 | levi | Yeah. |
| 21:24.22 | redbeard1 | i have a bottle of it. it was a gift. i'm afraid to open it. |
| 21:24.43 | levi | It's really thick and sweet. |
| 21:25.01 | redbeard1 | must be the 25 y/o stuff then |
| 21:25.20 | levi | I'm not sure how old it was. |
| 21:25.28 | levi | Or how it changes as it gets older. |
| 21:25.36 | redbeard1 | there's some intense laws in italy concerning balsamic vinegar. |
| 21:26.04 | redbeard1 | they can label it at at least 15 years old, or at least 25 years old... but they're not allowed to actually print when it was made |
| 21:26.31 | redbeard1 | 50 years is usually when it gets really thick and syrupy, tho it's pretty intense at 25 years |
| 21:27.14 | redbeard1 | meeting, gtg |
| 21:27.29 | lars-ut | redbeard1: wait |
| 21:27.33 | redbeard1 | yes? |
| 21:28.07 | lars-ut | Could you pick me up some Marmite? |
| 21:28.09 | lars-ut | http://www.britishdelights.com/images/marmite.jpg |
| 21:28.18 | redbeard1 | actually, you can buy marmite at smiths |
| 21:28.31 | lars-ut | hobnobs then? |
| 21:28.37 | lars-ut | milk chocolate |
| 21:28.38 | redbeard1 | but i recommend vegemite, it's generally considered to be better |
| 21:29.05 | redbeard1 | sure. i'll be back in a bit to get info from you |
| 21:29.19 | redbeard1 | bbiab |
| 21:29.28 | lars-ut | k |
| 21:32.10 | lars-ut | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_Bunnies_and_the_Quest_for_the_Magic_Carrot |
| 21:32.28 | lars-ut | anybody here own/play this game? |
| 21:34.10 | BL4 | I think I may have seen it somewhere |
| 21:35.54 | lars-ut | BL4 - I'm tryin' to recruit someone to bring it to game night in 2 weeks |
| 21:35.57 | ^Migs^ | nope |
| 21:36.17 | BL4 | what is this game night you speak of? |
| 21:36.30 | ^Migs^ | huh? game night? |
| 21:36.34 | ^Migs^ | free pizza you say? |
| 21:36.59 | ^Migs^ | lots of hot chicks? |
| 21:37.10 | BL4 | only you ^Migs^ |
| 21:37.19 | lars-ut | http://boardgames.herlo.org/?q=node/1 |
| 21:37.45 | ^Migs^ | meh, Springville |
| 21:37.46 | ^Migs^ | too far |
| 21:37.59 | lars-ut | ah, you say that now ^Migs^... |
| 21:38.08 | *** join/#utah JoeyDay|wgu (n=JoeyDay@205.124.151.254) |
| 21:38.10 | ^Migs^ | no, it's too far. I live 2+ hours away. |
| 21:38.17 | lars-ut | oh. |
| 21:38.23 | BL4 | cities and knights is pretty cool |
| 21:38.37 | lars-ut | yeah, we're overdue to play that one |
| 21:38.51 | lars-ut | we've been playing RoboRally a lot lately |
| 21:39.03 | BL4 | sweet, I have that game |
| 21:39.14 | lars-ut | I've played twice, and I really like it. |
| 21:39.19 | BL4 | its a lot of fun |
| 21:39.20 | RyanE | and we've played mag-blast a few times. |
| 21:39.25 | RyanE | also fun |
| 21:39.30 | lars-ut | very. |
| 21:39.41 | lars-ut | and Carcasonne |
| 21:39.48 | BL4 | I'll have to drive my scooter down and play sometime |
| 21:39.59 | lars-ut | excellent. |
| 21:40.51 | lars-ut | We did banana splits last week - make sure you sign up for the mailing list |
| 21:40.55 | lars-ut | it's low traffic |
| 21:41.17 | findlay | I'll come only if you can promise me 5 girls |
| 21:41.43 | BL4 | I get like, um 75 emails a day....so low traffic isn't an issue |
| 21:42.19 | lars-ut | :) |
| 21:42.31 | *** part/#utah ^Migs^ (n=Migs@205.122.50.21) |
| 21:42.42 | BL4 | well, I suppose low traffic could be an issue if I didn't look through every stupid email |
| 21:43.24 | BL4 | I need to install a spam guard thing... |
| 21:43.49 | lars-ut | popfile for client side - or use thunderbird |
| 21:44.23 | BL4 | hmm, I'll have to look into it later...I'm running a custom made server |
| 21:44.34 | BL4 | so what are you playing this Tuesday? |
| 21:45.08 | lars-ut | not sure - I won't be there this Tues |
| 21:45.21 | lars-ut | others will though. |
| 21:47.35 | lars-ut | BL4 - my guess is RoboRally or Settlers of Catan:Cities & Knights |
| 21:47.37 | BL4 | dah.....6.4 MB later...and it doesn't work... |
| 21:47.47 | lars-ut | ? |
| 21:48.41 | BL4 | I was downloading the movie for "All your base are belong to us" through a dialup...and for some reason the downloaded thing doesn't work... |
| 21:50.14 | BL4 | ahh, big waste of time anyways, I suppose I better do something useful |
| 21:51.29 | lars-ut | feliz cinco de mayo |
| 21:57.41 | harleypig | allo? |
| 21:58.16 | redbeard1 | lars-ut: you still around? |
| 21:58.22 | lars-ut | yup |
| 21:58.33 | redbeard1 | you gonna be at plug next week? |
| 21:58.46 | levi | Who's presenting? |
| 21:58.54 | redbeard1 | good question |
| 21:59.26 | lars-ut | redbeard1: I'll be out of town |
| 21:59.40 | lars-ut | I can have money there, though. |
| 21:59.54 | lars-ut | herlo can pass it along or bring it |
| 21:59.56 | redbeard1 | lars-ut: you have aim or jabber? |
| 21:59.59 | levi | I don't have classes at night this term, so I can come to Plug meetings regularly now. |
| 22:00.20 | lars-ut | redbeard1: does gaim w/google talk count? |
| 22:00.31 | redbeard1 | works for me |
| 22:00.50 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.45 | obfuscated | we should podcast the plug and sllug meetings |
| 22:09.22 | redbeard1 | hasta, all ya'll |
| 22:09.36 | nick125 | anyone here know of a good wordpress theme that looks professional? (I need a new theme for my vps company blog) |
| 22:17.46 | findlay | plain text man |
| 22:19.58 | lars-ut | nick125: http://jordy.gundy.org/ |
| 22:19.59 | nick125 | lol |
| 22:23.08 | lars-ut | nick125: Blue Radiant, Lucid, White As Milk, Zen Minimalist |
| 22:24.09 | lars-ut | http://www.alexking.org/software/wordpress/theme_browser.php |
| 22:24.26 | nick125 | thanks for the links :) |
| 22:24.38 | lars-ut | np |
| 22:27.51 | lars-ut | what was that ftp server, vsftpd? |
| 22:27.57 | lars-ut | findlay? |
| 22:29.34 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@hfugal.NMSU.Edu) |
| 22:30.02 | lars-ut | elg: what is your favorite ftp server? |
| 22:30.19 | lars-ut | software package, that is |
| 22:30.24 | nick125 | I like proftpd myself for the record.. |
| 22:30.51 | nick125 | mainly because it took me 5 minutes to setup |
| 22:31.16 | lars-ut | nick125: thanks - I've got it narrowed down to proftpd and vsftpd |
| 22:31.44 | elg | lars-ut: um, ftp.us.debian.org? |
| 22:31.57 | elg | I don't set up ftp servers |
| 22:33.40 | findlay | lars-ut: here |
| 22:33.50 | findlay | I guess |
| 22:37.20 | [Utah]tristanbob | I would say vsftpd, since it is in Ubuntu main |
| 22:37.54 | lars-ut | thanks, [Utah]tristanbob |
| 22:40.05 | bertbob | I think proftpd must be quite secure since that's what xmission uses |
| 22:42.42 | bertbob | debian 3.1 for their shell server |
| 22:44.33 | bertbob | reriding@xmission:~$ cat /etc/debian_version |
| 22:44.33 | bertbob | 3.1 |
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| 22:50.25 | lars-ut | Man that was fast to set up |
| 22:50.37 | lars-ut | Now I need to go deliver it |
| 22:51.02 | findlay | lars-ut: you deliver? |
| 22:51.24 | lars-ut | yep - only $40/hour for now, but that'll change soon |
| 22:52.19 | lars-ut | Asterisk Boot Camp |
| 22:52.23 | lars-ut | :-D |
| 22:52.50 | lars-ut | Happy Friday, #utah! |
| 22:52.56 | nick125 | mmm...asterisk boot camp |
| 22:56.32 | scottj | it looks like finding a good cell phone, on a good plan, that works with iSync is pretty hard. is linux compatibility even more rare? |
| 22:57.45 | levi | Probably. |
| 22:57.52 | levi | I just settled for a cheap plan. |
| 22:58.03 | levi | Got T-Mobile To Go. |
| 22:58.17 | levi | And I use the phone as little as possible. |
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| 23:00.48 | nick125 | I haven't tried syncing my treo up to linux yet.. |
| 23:03.22 | levi | I never tried. |
| 23:03.32 | levi | I did sync to my Mac, though. |
| 23:03.44 | scottj | I had tons of features planned for my phone/mac: calls alert popups on the comp with BluePhoneElite, remote control with Sailing Software, fallback internet access connection, syncing calendar/addressbook etc. |
| 23:05.18 | levi | That would be cool, but I can't justify paying that much money per month for a stinking /phone/. I don't even like talking on the phone. |
| 23:06.03 | *** join/#utah Lone_Wanderer (n=chatzill@c-71-199-35-158.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 23:06.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Crickey. Is it just me or are we experiencing a glut of users hereabouts? |
| 23:10.39 | lars-ut-away | ~dict glut |
| 23:11.29 | Lone_Wanderer | (I just meant that there's a lot of them here.) |
| 23:11.55 | levi | There aren't any more talking than usual. |
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| 23:25.29 | pmcnabb | ~dict usual |
| 23:26.25 | Lone_Wanderer | Hmm. I see that I have much to learn. |
| 23:26.38 | pmcnabb | ~wiki nerd |
| 23:26.45 | Lone_Wanderer | ~dict nerd |
| 23:40.26 | tensai | harleypig: no, I've never used ubuntu. I'm the vanilla debian sort |
| 23:40.37 | tensai | ~flush sjansen |
| 23:40.38 | ibot | ACTION flushes sjansen like sjansen was yesterday's lunch |
| 23:40.56 | tensai | ~lart dull tasks |
| 23:41.14 | tensai | ~flatten elg |
| 23:46.37 | levi | I wish Debian would get up to date with gnome faster. |
| 23:51.23 | nick125 | I wish my web designer used \n more often in his code :/ |
