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00:04.22Hhhhhhullo
00:07.18nick125caffeine mints rock :D
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01:17.35vontrappanyone know how to set an arbitrary content-type in the http response headers in rails?
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01:39.56maquis-lart emcnabb
01:40.08maquisbrac: you call that a lart???
01:40.08bracno idea
01:40.54maquis-lart goozbach
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01:54.41levi_So... tired.
01:59.01maquislevi_: why?
01:59.20levi_Little sleep and lots of bicycle riding.
02:02.19elg~bicycle levi
02:28.38vontrapp~lart planet utah
02:43.03levi_vontrapp: What's your gripe?
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02:45.16mheathO.o
02:46.09mheathLots of random problems with my internet tonight.
02:46.19mheathOne of the IRC networks I frequent's DNS isn't resolving, for one thing
02:47.06mheathConnections to a ton of websites are timing out, too =\
02:47.14mheathCoincidence, or is there anything going on?
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03:08.08levi_mheath: It's a conspiracy against you.
03:08.47tensaitime to make a rub
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03:09.09tensaismoked salmon is just 24 hours away
03:10.13levi_Did you find a terra cotta lid for your smoker?
03:10.33tensainope, not yet. I'll be using a cardy board box for this task.
03:12.37tensaihttp://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_ea/article/0,1976,FOOD_9956_2245800,00.html
03:12.39brac[TV : Good Eats : Cardboard Box Smoker : Food Network]
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03:25.08levi_Dang.  The final stage of the Tour of Utah will be 114 miles with 17000ft of climbing.  Insane.
03:27.48maquistensai: man.... you're making me jealous!
03:28.23tensai17kft? certainly not all at once
03:30.09ScytheBlade1mmmm
03:30.12ScytheBlade1Zaurus SL-6000
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03:44.31tensaimaquis: http://www.zmonkey.org/blog/node/82
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03:48.44dataw0lfwould a 'Linux on removable media' presentation be welcome at any of the UGs, ya think?
03:49.51maquistensai: farm-raised salmon *period* doesn't compare
03:50.24dataw0lfhiya maquis, tensai
03:50.25tensaimaquis: if it's farm raised, it's color added so I'm being a little redundant
03:50.28maquisdataw0lf: sup?
03:50.39maquistensai: yeah... but you mentioned atlantic...
03:50.50tensaimaquis: ah, I see. can't even remember what I wrote
03:50.54maquis:)
03:51.34dataw0lfMourning the loss of my 4 gig usb key
03:51.37mheathMy friend left yesterday =\
03:51.39maquissadness
03:52.18xbmodder_lappydataw0lf, so sorry
03:52.24xbmodder_lappydataw0lf, what was on it?
03:52.29dataw0lfSolaris got the best of me, unfortunately.
03:52.32xbmodder_lappymheath, what did you do?
03:52.45xbmodder_lappydataw0lf, did you do something stupid?
03:52.52mheathxbmodder_lappy, ?
03:52.58dataw0lfxbmodder_lappy: an unbootable copy of Solaris
03:53.00dataw0lf:D
03:53.12tensaiooh, new ctrl-alt-chicken
03:53.21mheath~lart Solaris
03:53.34xbmodder_lappyoh
03:53.45xbmodder_lappymheath, to make your friend leave?
03:54.06xbmodder_lappyanyone know how badly lenovo is backordered?
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03:54.10mheathxbmodder_lappy, WTF? You're probably the rudest person I've met. And you wonder why we don't get along.
03:54.14tensai~lart SB1-Z
03:54.15SB1-Zw00t
03:54.20mheathWhat kind of question is that?
03:54.29SB1-Zthe zaurus sl6000
03:54.44xbmodder_lappymheath, I don't know about the classification of questions...
03:54.54xbmodder_lappyin what context?
03:55.04mheath"My friend left yesterday", and your first question is "What did you do ... to make your friend leave?"
03:55.07xbmodder_lappySB1-Z, cool, what are you decking it out with?
03:55.12mheathThats just really, really rude.
03:55.40xbmodder_lappymheath, ok, sorry, a better question would be "Why did your friend leave?"
03:55.41SB1-Z2GB SD card
03:55.42dataw0lfmheath: yeah, you should think before you speak, eh?
03:55.52SB1-Zintegrated wifi+bluetooth
03:55.52mheathdataw0lf, eh?
03:56.03mheathI'm confused.
03:56.06dataw0lfdon't you agree?
03:56.10mheathSo confused.
03:56.23mheathdataw0lf, I'm trying to figure out if you're in agreement with me or insulting me.
03:56.28xbmodder_lappySB1-Z, sweeet!
03:56.36xbmodder_lappyAre you IRCing on it right now?
03:56.41xbmodder_lappyyeah, obviously...
03:56.44SB1-ZIt is sooooo amazingly nice
03:56.46SB1-Zyeah
03:56.56xbmodder_lappydid you get net over bluetooth working yet?
03:57.03SB1-Zhence the Z
03:57.06mheathWish I had as much money as you all...I'd like a Zaurus. :P
03:57.09SB1-ZNo local bluetooth
03:57.11SB1-Zat all
03:57.12dataw0lfmheath: good luck.'
03:57.22SB1-Zjust wifi
03:57.28xbmodder_lappyWho here is coming to linuxWorld SFO 2006?
03:57.46mheathdataw0lf, Oh, is this another one of your "You're not prepared for boot camp because I just talked to you like a DI and you didn't respond well" things?
03:58.18xbmodder_lappyheh
03:58.35dataw0lfmheath: I think you're confused again.
03:58.44mheathProbably.
03:58.44xbmodder_lappyheh
03:59.05xbmodder_lappybada-bing!
03:59.23dataw0lfmheath: and you obviously were confused with the military conversation we had, as well.
03:59.34dataw0lfbut I don't want to talk about this.
03:59.39dataw0lfI want to talk about Linux on removable media!
03:59.44SB1-ZSuch an amazing screen.... I've never, ever seen an LCD with this much clarity
03:59.54mheathMeanwhile, xbmodder_lappy is doing his "I really don't know what anyones saying, but I dislike mheath, and I'm guessing what dataw0lf is saying is whitty, so I'll laugh." thing.
04:00.02dataw0lfSB1-Z: I've never seen one.
04:00.14ScytheBlade1Enough of typing on that
04:00.16ScytheBlade1It's amazing
04:00.19ScytheBlade1It truly is
04:00.27dataw0lfcoolio.
04:00.36dataw0lfwhat runs on it?
04:00.45mheath~lart ScytheBlade1
04:00.47ScytheBlade1anything linux :)
04:00.49mheathI want one =\
04:00.59dataw0lfScytheBlade1: OS wise.
04:01.09xbmodder_lappymheath, I know that SB1-Z is talking about  his zaurus that I want but I would prefer a smartphone, and I really don't dislike you...
04:01.12mheathMeh, I'd start with a computer thats capable of playing any decent game.
04:01.29ScytheBlade1OS wise? Linux... really. Just embedded ROMs.
04:01.39mheathMy fastest system is a 450 Mhz Pentium III..........
04:01.39ScytheBlade1There's about 4 for the 6000
04:01.42xbmodder_lappymheath, Its just kind of funny to watch you be slightly confused...
04:01.47ScytheBlade1guyhelm, sharp, pdaXrom, and openzaurus
04:01.53dataw0lfScytheBlade1: hmm, cool.
04:01.54ScytheBlade1But it's all the same stuff
04:02.04ScytheBlade1pdaXrom lacks support for my wifi now, but
04:02.06mheathxbmodder_lappy, it would be funny to see you shut up. You know...I could use a good laugh....
04:02.06dataw0lfhow much do they run?
04:02.08ScytheBlade1it also comes with full blown X
04:02.10ScytheBlade1Heh
04:02.16ScytheBlade1This is going to last me YEARS
04:02.18mheathHow in the world do you all get money for this stuff?
04:02.20ScytheBlade1"Not cheap"
04:02.33ScytheBlade1I don't - it was my graduation, birthday, and christmas present
04:02.38dataw0lfScytheBlade1: I'm fairly certain I can afford it.
04:02.44dataw0lfmheath: Occupations.
04:02.45mheathCar payments, rent, food money......Gas money....And I never have enough for any of this stuff.
04:02.54ScytheBlade1Just under $1000, all shipping included
04:02.56ScytheBlade1$957 iirc
04:03.02dataw0lfwhew.
04:03.05xbmodder_lappystop eating, and don't have a car
04:03.06dataw0lfthat is a pretty penny.
04:03.10ScytheBlade1They only have them in japan now
04:03.12xbmodder_lappywell, at least get rid of the car
04:03.16ScytheBlade1$60 in shipping sucks
04:03.16dataw0lfah.
04:03.17mheathdataw0lf, ScytheBlade1 is a highschool student. Probably doesn't have a job thats any better than mine.
04:03.22ScytheBlade1chaseandcompany.net
04:03.41ScytheBlade1But honestly... it is a truly amazing PDA
04:03.44dataw0lfmheath: maybe he knows how to save.
04:03.45mheathAfter all my fixed expenses, I only walk away with maybe $100 that I have *any* say where it goes
04:03.47xbmodder_lappybecause once your out of the marines, that car is probably going to be run-down and depreacated.
04:03.48ScytheBlade1It's not small, but so... just plain... amazing
04:03.59mheathdataw0lf, I've saved for the past year! I don't go out and spend my money randomly.
04:04.09mheathI've only managed to save $1,000, though, with all my payments.
04:04.14dataw0lfheh.
04:04.16mheathAnd thats to get me buy over the summer
04:04.18dataw0lfI don't know what to tell you then.
04:04.21mheath*by
04:04.28xbmodder_lappys/buy/by/
04:04.41ScytheBlade1dataw0lf, integrated bluetooth, and you can rotate the display and get a full 640x480
04:04.45xbmodder_lappymheath, why do you hate me so much?
04:04.46ScytheBlade1throw in a bluetooth keyboard
04:04.56mheaths/s\/buy\.by\//redundancy/g
04:04.58xbmodder_lappyScytheBlade1, have you played any movies?
04:05.03ScytheBlade1turn off wifi, and the backlight
04:05.05ScytheBlade110 hour battery life
04:05.10xbmodder_lappysweet...
04:05.12dataw0lfhm, nice.
04:05.19xbmodder_lappyScytheBlade1, how is the speed, and screen?
04:05.24xbmodder_lappyRAM?
04:05.31xbmodder_lappyuclinux, right?
04:05.34ScytheBlade1no
04:05.41mheathew.
04:05.46ScytheBlade1400MHz ARM proc, and "enough" embedded RAM
04:05.48mheathuclinux.......ewww.
04:05.56mheath"enough" =P famous last words
04:06.00ScytheBlade1I only abuse SD cards really
04:06.05ScytheBlade1the RAM onboard is for storage
04:06.17mheath"This new IBM PC with 4K of embedded memory has enough RAM to suit all your needs."
04:06.29ScytheBlade1lol
04:06.43ScytheBlade1I can run thunderbird and firefox at the same time on this
04:06.43ScytheBlade1It's fine
04:07.00xbmodder_lappy:-|
04:07.13xbmodder_lappy~steal ScytheBlade1's treo
04:07.15ibotACTION grabs ScytheBlade1's treo and gives it to xbmodder_lappy
04:07.16ScytheBlade1treo?
04:07.17ScytheBlade1Go ahead
04:07.19ScytheBlade1I don't have one
04:07.26xbmodder_lappys/treo/zaurus/
04:07.32ScytheBlade1Better
04:07.35mheathI can't wait until summer......
04:07.37xbmodder_lappyI tired.
04:08.37SB1-Zso nice!
04:08.43mheath~lart SB1-Z
04:08.49mheathGood, ibot.
04:08.50ScytheBlade1okay
04:08.51dataw0lfwhat's the best ext2/ext3 driver / utility for windows?
04:08.53ScytheBlade1That was dirty
04:09.10mheath~clean ibot
04:09.11ibotACTION nukes ibot room and sdays to ibot: Und zie problem is solved
04:09.29mheathO.o
04:10.02dataw0lfwow, someone had a problem with English.
04:11.52mheathI feel rather offended that the processor speed in your Zaurus is equivelent to my fastest desktop computer, ScytheBlade1 / SB1-Z
04:12.36ScytheBlade1and lasts longer on batteries? ;)
04:13.25mheathThats one regret I have, I guess...is computer access with my time in the Corp
04:13.30maquispkg_delete: package 'libdrm-2.0_1' is required by these other packages
04:13.32maquisand may not be deinstalled (but I'll delete it anyway)
04:13.44mheathIn the Navy, its common to buy a laptop and have it onboard with you..
04:14.01mheathDon't know if I'll ever have that luxury *anywhere* while I'm in the corp.
04:16.40ScytheBlade1dataw0lf, http://www.pdaxrom.org/screenshots/gimp.png
04:18.50ScytheBlade1http://www.pdaxrom.org/screenshots/ethereal.png is another fun one too
04:19.26maquis@#$%!!!!!
04:20.42ScytheBlade1What'd you do?
04:22.12maquisi just installed sunbird, and i can't make it start
04:22.42ScytheBlade1I've only really heard that it's, well, broken
04:23.55maquisi tried it a long time ago, and it worked, but it took forever to startup
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04:34.05levi_tensai: The 17k feet aren't all at once, no.  They're spread through several of the steepest Wasatch Front canyons and mountain climbs.
04:35.47levi_tensai: Go to the tourofutah.com site to see route descriptions.  All the stages are brutal, but that one is just sadistic.
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04:38.45dataw0lf-anyone know of any parallel port pcmcia cards that work with non printer devices?
04:39.41dataw0lf-I swear, 'universal' parallel port means 'ha, we fooled you, this only works with printers too!'
04:40.52QBFreakdataw0lf-: that sucks
04:40.57dataw0lf-yea.
04:41.17dataw0lf-finding a parallel port addon for this laptop is alot harder than I originally thought it would be.
04:41.57dataw0lf-one that works with PCCDU and this GPS, anyways.
04:42.25QBFreakwhat exactly do you need, EEP/ECP?
04:42.41QBFreakafaik those are the most advanced forms of bi-directional
04:43.09QBFreakhmm, "Generally, EPP is used primarily by non-printer peripherals, CD ROM, tape drive, hard drive, network adapters, etc., while ECP is aimed at newer generation of printers and scanners."
04:43.42QBFreakdunno if that gives you any ideas on which direction to look in
04:43.53dataw0lf-I know what type of parallel port I need.
04:44.01dataw0lf-they just aren't working with this GPS.
04:44.14dataw0lf-(with this laptop)
04:44.21dataw0lf-the old laptop works fine.
04:45.20mheathGoodnight!
04:45.24QBFreakthis is encouraging... http://www.epanorama.net/circuits/parallel_output.html#usbnotes
04:45.25brac[Parellel port output]
04:45.27QBFreaklaters mheath
04:46.53QBFreakit saddens me to see all the easy-to-use ports being phased out
04:47.00dataw0lf-QBFreak: I know how a parallel port works.  I just need a product that doesn't require special drivers (USB to parallel port docking station for instance) or other blocking stuff
04:48.14QBFreakmost anything not built in is going to require drivers isn't it?
04:49.00dataw0lf-everything requires drivers, I'm just looking for a product that is as square one as you can get.
04:49.49QBFreakwish I had something useful to contribute, most of my hardware lags behind the times a bit
04:49.58QBFreakmy laptop doesn't even have USB
04:51.22dataw0lf-sounds like it's more of a tabletop then
04:51.28dataw0lf-:D
04:52.22xbmodder_lappyIf you want another feature for your VPS, what would it be?
04:53.24QBFreakdataw0lf-: its a lot more portable than my kaypro :)
04:53.53QBFreak166mhz with MMX (so amazing, I know)
04:54.08QBFreakbut it does have a nice 14.1" TFT display
04:54.22QBFreakexcept for the fact that a number of the wires are wearing out and causing colored lines to be displayed
04:55.07QBFreakI've got a 386 somewhere that doesn't even do PCMCIA, HDD is like 400MB
04:57.27QBFreakanyway, back to TV so I can get my sleep tonight and fix that program before work tomorrow
04:57.31QBFreaklaters all
04:59.27goozbachyay!!!
04:59.30goozbachcable!!!
04:59.50goozbachnow I have an excuse that isn't female for staying up all night
05:00.53xbmodder_lappylol
05:03.14maquiss/nigt/night
05:06.34xbmodder_lappyyou can?
05:06.58maquiswell... goo said that his excuses are female
05:07.12xbmodder_lappyI think he wanted a non-female excuse
05:07.23maquismeh
05:07.31maquiswhat's wrong with female excuses?
05:07.32goozbachmy current excuse is female
05:07.43goozbachI just wanted another one
05:07.45goozbachnow I have one
05:07.48xbmodder_lappylol
05:12.15levi_goozbach: Have a baby.  That'll keep you up all night.
05:12.47maquis*GRUMBLE*
05:13.16maquisi just want 1 good calendar system that works well and installs on my computer correctly
05:13.21maquisis that asking too much?
05:13.33maquissometimes i really hate open-source software
05:13.54goozbachshut your mouth
05:13.55levi_maquis: Yes, in fact, that is too much to ask.
05:14.15maquis~beat goozbach
05:14.18ibotACTION beats goozbach with a wetfish
05:14.18goozbachso I was so excited today
05:14.19maquislevi_: why???
05:14.31maquiswhy can't sunbird work?
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05:14.34goozbachI got to watch "Good Eats"
05:14.42maquiswhy can't i get apple's ical?
05:15.02levi_This little music maker gadget in the bassinet has a little tune from Dvorak's New World symphony.
05:15.56levi_maquis: Because they paid a lot of money to make it, and they want you to pay more money for an Apple computer and OS X to run it on.
05:16.14maquislevi_: then why not sunbird
05:16.16maquisor monocalendar
05:16.59levi_Because not a lot of money and compatibility testing with your particular OS variant went into those.
05:17.14maquis-lart levi_
05:19.28levi_maquis: Why are you so desperate for a calendar app?
05:19.51maquislevi_: because i'm tired of using a text file to keep track of things
05:20.19maquisand i know exactly what i want in a calendar app, but i've never found one that fit those requirements... and i don't have the time or the abilities currently to create what i want
05:20.43levi_How precisely can you specify your requirements?
05:21.01maquisrather precisely... i wrote them down last semester
05:21.26levi_What are the major requirements?
05:21.27elgmyspace clones go for $35-$100, so you should be able to afford one
05:21.47levi_elg: Eh?
05:22.35elghttp://www.getafreelancer.com/projects/PHP/MySpace-Clone.58122.html
05:23.42levi_Uh.
05:24.10levi_What kind of a respectable programmer is going to take $100 for a job?  That's ridiculous.
05:24.15maquislevi_: it needs to be fast (particularly when starting up), good-looking, be able to categorize into colors, have the option of a todo-list, allow recurring appointments...
05:24.35maquispreferably, for categories, i'd like to be able to turn off particular categories
05:24.58maquisi'd also like it to not be web-based, because i'd like to be able to use it when i'm someplace where i don't have internet access
05:25.11maquisthe problem is, i need it for school
05:25.36maquisso, making it doesn't make a ton of sense, since by the time i make it, i won't need it anymore
05:25.49levi_You need to pick up a cheap used Palm.
05:25.56maquisi have an old palm
05:26.02levi_Well, use it!
05:26.02maquisnever used it...
05:26.08maquisnever could get it to sync with *anything*
05:26.15levi_Don't sync, just use it.
05:26.27maquisfound the interface to not be good for what i wanted to do
05:26.47maquisblack-and-white screen makes it rather difficult to categorize by color....
05:27.17maquishonestly, sunbird does what i want, except for the fact that it's hideously slow (and it won't start on my machine)
05:28.43levi_That's not even a particularly huge feature list.
05:28.49maquisno, it's not
05:29.18maquisgood-looking and fast are the two things that i've had the hardest time with...  i've found a couple items that were hideously ugly
05:29.25maquisand a lot that take 30 seconds to start
05:29.36maquisand my machine is not an old system
05:33.46elglevi_: obviously, the kind that can program a myspace clone in a day.
05:34.35levi_elg: If I could program a myspace clone in a day, I'd be asking a LOT more than $100 for a day of my time.
05:38.39maquislevi_: you want to program a calendar app for me?
05:39.12levi_maquis: I want to, but I don't have time to.
05:39.18maquis:(
05:39.29levi_I have to program a robot in my free time.
05:39.44levi_And if there's any time left over, it will go to my Lisp blog system.
05:39.47maquisa robot?
05:39.49maquisfun
05:39.57levi_Yeah, it should be cool.
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06:10.56QBFreaklevi: a job or the job?
06:11.38QBFreak(the job being that job)
06:12.23QBFreakaand levi isn't here anymore...
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06:32.35QBFreakyou ride tacos?
06:32.51TacoJockey!
06:32.53TacoJockeyYup
06:33.02TacoJockeyI am also a professional taco eater
06:33.29TacoJockeyI've got a perfect record for eating tacos.  Every taco I've attempted to eat has been eaten.
06:33.38QBFreakawesome
06:33.44QBFreakI wish I could say that...
06:34.19TacoJockeyDid ya puke some up?  Don't eat at the border man.  Those things will go through you at warp 9, via both ends.
06:34.21QBFreakI left it in the fridge at work
06:34.25TacoJockeyOh that sucks
06:34.27QBFreakhehe
06:34.35TacoJockeyI feel like nuking a burrito
06:34.36QBFreakI work tomorrow night, so I'll get it
06:34.42TacoJockeydamn, I got hungry all of a sudden
06:34.44TacoJockeyYum
06:34.54QBFreakdarn this court TV, it'll keep you up all night with interesting stuff
06:35.08QBFreakI was hoping this show was only 30 min...
06:35.11TacoJockeyhehehe
06:36.02QBFreakthe idiots that choose to run from the law always entertain me
06:37.03QBFreakand theres the lesser idiots that get involved and shouldn't...
06:38.27QBFreakmaybe not idiots, but they do make poor choices
06:40.30TacoJockeyhehehe
06:42.13QBFreakas much as I'd like to help law enforcement, my getting involved makes things much more complicated and potentially confusing for them, and they'd rather I not, I respect that
06:44.06TacoJockeyYeah, that's true.
06:49.30QBFreakthats actually something I miss in Need for Speed Underground
06:51.26linuxalienXbox game?
06:53.19QBFreakPC
06:53.29QBFreakmight be available for some consoles, dunno
06:56.51linuxalienGames are fun.  I'm into first person shooters.
06:59.24linuxalienI've got that as well as UT2004
07:00.03QBFreakmy cousin had 2003 (was there a 2003?) or 2004, I tried to play it but I wasn't familiar enough with what was what to do very well :)
07:00.39QBFreakIMO with the older graphics some things were easier to spot and determine what they were :)
07:00.45linuxalienThey did have 2003 but it's not as good as 2004
07:04.34linuxalienI'm gonna get some sleep
07:04.35linuxaliennite nite
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09:26.56bertbobhttp://www.adcritic.com/interactive/view.php?id=5927
09:26.57brac[AdCritic Interactive]
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13:00.57sjansen~rlart
13:02.47sjansen~harass goozbach
13:04.51goozbach~dog sjansen
13:04.53ibotACTION stares at sjansen until sjansen wimpers and pees all over himself.
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13:05.25sjansentoo early in the day for Jayce^ to enjoy that one, goozbach
13:16.19goozbachdoh
13:16.27goozbachI'll try again later
13:16.34goozbachyou're up early
13:16.38goozbachon the east coast?
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13:50.52mheathGood morning, Migs
13:51.13Migsgood morning, mheath.  How are you this fine day?
14:02.26sjansengoozbach: yup, I'm in Columbus
14:02.45sjansenOhio, that is
14:02.58sjansenrestaurants, rolling hils
14:04.36sjanseno/~ Well the first thing you know old goozbach's a millionaire. The #utah folks said, goozbach move away from there. They said Florida is the place you need to be, so he loaded up the truck and he moved to [some hurricane prone area or other]. ~/o
14:06.06mheathTime for school.
14:06.35Migshave FUN at school, mheath
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14:18.41sjansen~dog Jayce^
14:18.43ibotACTION stares at Jayce^ until Jayce^ wimpers and pees all over himself.
14:18.50sjansen~thank goozbach
14:18.50ibotbitte, sjansen
14:18.54maquislol
14:18.59sjansenstupid bot
14:19.24maquisJayce^: thanks for a great laugh with that post... i'm going to have to try that sometime...
14:20.18maquishttp://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20060503
14:20.19brac[UserFriendly Strip Comments]
14:20.26Jayce^:)
14:22.00maquis~spellcheck sjansen
14:23.38goozbachdangit
14:23.44goozbachI didn't get to dog anyone
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14:23.48goozbach~dog redbear1
14:23.50ibotACTION stares at redbear1 until redbear1 wimpers and pees all over himself.
14:23.52maquis~dog goozbach
14:23.53ibotACTION stares at goozbach until goozbach wimpers and pees all over himself.
14:24.06redbear1wow. that's quite the reception.
14:24.10maquiss/wimper/whimper
14:25.03goozbachI KNEW I'd spelt that wrong
14:25.31redbear1man. what a goozbach.
14:25.33goozbach~dog mcgruff
14:25.34ibotACTION stares at mcgruff until mcgruff whimpers and pees all over himself.
14:25.34redbear1yeah.
14:25.41maquisgoozbach: much better :)
14:26.30goozbachanyone having problems with wikipedia right now?
14:27.02redbear1goozbach: yeah, it's really slow for me
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14:30.43maquishttp://www.computerworld.com/blogs/node/2445  <-- wow
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14:33.51maquishttp://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060502-6730.html  <-- well... people have plenty of time inside when it's raining for game-playing
14:36.34^Migs^sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who thinks Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue" is a really stupid song
14:46.19redbear1~lart Jayce^
14:46.29redbear1hmm. subtle.
14:47.22sjansen~eat redbear1
14:47.23ibotACTION eats redbear1 and falls over dead
14:47.34vontrapplevi: just that it has time issues
14:47.41redbear1i killed the ibot!
14:47.57vontrappa post at 3 shows as at 9
14:48.33vontrappand any older post that becomes visible for whatever reason that wasn't already on it is posted on it as new
14:49.19^Migs^http://bwallace1701.zoto.com/img/original/1c0a23aa9b948c26ea633a4b4d5049f1-.jpg
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15:17.54xbmodder_hey all
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15:18.42xbmodder_^Migs^: thats evil
15:18.49^Migs^hahaha
15:18.57^Migs^"Arranged by accident"
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15:23.19harleypighttp://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=O3X4RR5HMX3YSCRBAEOCFFA?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=12052842
15:23.20brac[Oddly Enough News Article | Reuters.com]
15:23.44harleypigStudy says US mothers deserve $134,121 in salary
15:24.52harleypighttp://www.mom.salary.com
15:24.58RyanEyeah, they were saying that on the radio this morning.
15:25.03RyanEI can't afford to pay my wife.
15:25.17harleypigEnter what you (or wife) do around the house and see how much you have to pay her (or should be paid).
15:25.21harleypigheh
15:26.52^Migs^this is stupid
15:27.06^Migs^everyone is coming up with different "figures" of what stay-at-home moms should make.  Awhile ago on Oprah it was $800,000/yr
15:28.03harleypigI don't pay attention to O.
15:28.04RyanEOprah is just "preaching to the choir", and making her numbers big to suit her audience.
15:28.14^Migs^yes, she does have a habit of doing that
15:28.20^Migs^quite a blatant habit
15:28.21RyanEwell, more like 'lying to the choir'...
15:29.02Jayce^~dog harleypig
15:29.03ibotACTION stares at harleypig until harleypig whimpers and pees all over himself.
15:29.26^Migs^salary.com actually approaches it a little more realistically.  I think when Oprah did it, she was figuring moms were doing everything at once, all the time, 24 hours a day.
15:29.42^Migs^and as usual, the mindless female drones watching her lapped it up
15:29.56^Migs^Oprah is an insult to the intelligence of women, really
15:30.03harleypig:D
15:30.23harleypig~dog Jayce^
15:30.25ibotACTION stares at Jayce^ until Jayce^ whimpers and pees all over himself.
15:30.37harleypigI'll have to read that post next.
15:31.09flyboy^My wife deserves a million dollar salery.
15:31.53^Migs^yeah, mine too
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15:34.56harleypigOh, COOL!  I just found memory-alpha.org
15:35.14harleypigA Star Trek wikipedia.
15:35.21harleypiglooks fairly comprehensive.
15:35.32maquisharleypig: anything good about the maquis there?
15:35.55harleypighttp://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Maquis
15:35.59harleypigheh
15:36.07harleypigHaven't read up on it
15:36.12maquissweet...
15:36.38maquispersonally, i think the little logo thingamajig for the maquis is pretty boring... the borg one is much cooler
15:37.21harleypigheh
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15:44.34leviMorning, #utah.
15:46.01dataw0lfanyone know if it's possible to get Norton's PQBoot to boot from a usb flash drive?
15:46.06dataw0lfmorning levi
15:49.34leviUm, as deserving as my wife is, there's /no/ way she actually does half the stuff they say a 'typical' stay-at-home mom does.  Of course, she's a very new mom and getting used to the job.
15:49.36dataw0lfI think my mom is overpaid.
15:50.25phinuxdatawolf: Is that what her Mother's Day card is going to say?
15:50.26jsmithdataw0lf: You flying this morning?
15:56.12flyboy^Actually - anything you say to a Mom might be the wrong thing. "Honey, you deserve a Million Dollars a year for what you do." "What!?!? Only a million!?!? Why not TEN million you insensitive MAN!?!?"
15:56.34jsmithflyboy^: Only too true...
15:57.19dataw0lfjsmith: yeah, I gotta leave in 30 minutes...
15:57.28dataw0lfphinux: probably something along those lines.
15:57.33dataw0lfbut my Mom KNOWS she's overpaid.
15:58.12phinuxYeah, but you could probably argue that for most of the IT/CS industry. Could be why our jobs are going to India.
15:58.41dataw0lfmy mom's an anesthesiologist, she's not in IT.
15:58.49dataw0lfshe sticks someone with a needle and gets paid half a million dollars.
15:58.54dataw0lfthat's overpaid.
15:59.15phinuxBummer. When I was sticking people with needles I only got $10 an hour.
15:59.22jsmithdataw0lf: OK...
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15:59.37dataw0lfjsmith: I'm going to try to get back before noon
15:59.43goozbachwhen I was sticking people with needles I had to make sure there weren't any cops
15:59.56jsmithdataw0lf: OK... I'll be in Sandy around 1:00... maybe we can meet a little before then?
16:00.07dataw0lfjsmith: I'm gonna try.  I got your number.
16:00.14jsmithOK
16:00.16leviSalary.com makes me sad.
16:00.19dataw0lfI'm flying in the chopper today so maybe I can just drop by wherever you're eating lunch :)
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16:00.35jsmithdataw0lf: Sure... I know a nice little park you can land in.
16:00.39dataw0lf:)
16:01.31obfuscateddataw0lf: which chopper are you in?
16:03.12dataw0lfobfuscated: what type of chopper?
16:03.21dataw0lfit's a Cessna 172
16:03.25dataw0lfk I think.
16:03.41obfuscatedno - what company?
16:03.54leviMmmmmmm, carbonara.
16:04.02redbear1turns out if you go far enough in that mom thing, it itemizes it. my wife went from $134,000 yr down to to $1,200/yr.
16:04.06dataw0lfobfuscated: Aero-Graphics.
16:04.09Jayce^no, it's "carbonara" :)
16:04.22redbear1not much of a carbonara
16:04.26redbear1no bacon or anything
16:04.29obfuscateddataw0lf: why are you flying in a chopper again?
16:04.41obfuscatedI thought it was some sort of medical chopper
16:04.53jsmithdataw0lf: Cessna builds choppers?!?
16:05.51jsmithdataw0lf: Just land in this park in the middle of this map: http://local.google.com/local?f=q&hl=en&q=poppy+lane,+sandy,+ut&ll=40.576445,-111.86305&spn=0.020112,0.045404&om=1
16:07.23dataw0lfobfuscated: to fix a GPS application and rack up hours
16:07.27dataw0lfjsmith: sorry, it's a Bell
16:07.29leviJayce^: Well, yeah, but it /reminded/ me of carbonara.
16:07.59obfuscatedcool
16:08.22leviIt needed more pancetta and less turkey and spices, but at least the egg and cheese bit was right on.
16:09.06dataw0lfwe have a couple cessna 172 PLANES and a bell HELICOPTER
16:09.16dataw0lfjsmith: Cessna used to make choppers, I believe.
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16:09.27leviOr some prosciutto.  That'd be good.
16:09.35dataw0lfone sec preflight
16:09.38redbear1levi: i'm with ya. pancetta would be good. but isn't there some sort of sauce that goes with it too?
16:09.40jsmithdataw0lf: I see.... my brother worked for Cessna, designing their jets...
16:11.00dataw0lffixed wing sucks!
16:11.00dataw0lf:)
16:11.30dataw0lfman my head hurts'
16:11.41dataw0lfjsmith: you called when the party was just getting started
16:12.35obfuscatedmmm...wings...
16:12.55Jayce^~dog obfuscated
16:12.58ibotACTION stares at obfuscated until obfuscated whimpers and pees all over himself.
16:13.17jsmithdataw0lf: I'm a good party-crasher...
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16:14.00dataw0lfI probably should've left way earlier than I did.
16:14.17leviredbear1: The egg and cheese make the sauce.
16:15.42leviredbear1: You mix them together pretty thoroughly, then pour them over the hot pasta until it's coated thoroughly.  My recipe had me pour the grease over it as well, to add some extra heat to cook the egg while coating the pasta.
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16:23.07Jayce^ok obfuscated you *need* to fix whatever it is your doing to generate your RSS
16:24.41harleypigholy crap ... Leet Speak is part of a complicated and potentially dangerous code designed to keep parents in the dark when children are chatting on the Internet.
16:24.47harleypigWhat complete and utter bs
16:25.16harleypigIt may be *used* that way (but that's the parents fault) but its certainly not designed at all!
16:25.20obfuscatedJayce^: did it post again?
16:25.31Jayce^this morning, yes
16:25.41Jayce^all of them
16:25.51obfuscatedcrap - maybe I'll have JLP remove me until I can get that fixed
16:26.06Jayce^JLP? no, you mean Gabe
16:26.08obfuscatedI have a feeling a Fedora update messed things up
16:26.12Jayce^and that would be a good idea
16:26.17obfuscatedoh - thought they were the same
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16:26.27obfuscatedJayce^: thanks for letting me know though
16:31.19flyboy^Who is Joseph Hall?
16:31.40Jayce^Joe, that's who
16:31.49harleypigWho is flyboy^ ?
16:31.50Jayce^the freaky perl chef that sits next to me
16:32.02harleypigerr ... /whois flyboy^ :>
16:32.06flyboy^His posts are making me hungry.
16:32.34harleypigheh ... we should make him do another demo for plug
16:32.36tensaiwhy Joe is Jayce^'s brother's uncle's cousin's third wife's daughter's mailman's nephew.
16:32.44Jayce^tensai, about that much
16:33.06flyboy^I wanted to ask him... there are "fine Greek restaurants in Salt Lake?"
16:33.20Jayce^so ask it :)
16:33.39flyboy^I just did. ;)
16:33.41flyboy^I hope any way.
16:33.42jsmithflyboy^: There are good Greek restaurants in Salt Lake -- I'm not sure about "fine" ones though.
16:33.58redbear1there's grecian gardens
16:34.12flyboy^St. George used to have a very upscale Greek place. Very nice. I SOOO miss it.
16:34.21jsmithflyboy^: My favorite is inside of a little Greek deli about 30th South and St. Street.
16:34.44flyboy^jsmith: Yeah, I like that place to. The people who run it are very freindly.
16:34.52Jayce^Apollo Burger has Gyro's   :-p
16:35.09jsmithJayce^: That's like saying McDonalds has hamburgers...
16:35.25redbear1greek slouvaki is pretty good, especially for fast food
16:35.43Jayce^of course, saying a Gyro is actually Greek food is a stretch in and of itself
16:35.51^Migs^Ogden only has one decent Greek restaurant I know of
16:36.20leviApollo Burger has Apollo Burgers, too.  Mmmmm, pastrami.
16:36.28flyboy^I'd really like to experience some traditional greek food.
16:36.34^Migs^then go to Greece
16:36.43leviflyboy^: Go to the Greek festival.
16:36.51tyceif you want the best pastrami sandwich, you need to go to bailey's
16:36.53redbear1oh man. i love the greek festival.
16:36.58levi(I don't know how authentic it is, but it's good!)
16:37.06redbear1i go there every year and stock up.
16:37.29harleypigI could really go for some authentic geek food
16:38.31flyboy^There is a Greek community in Salt Lake. Surly someone somewhere servers traditional dishes.
16:38.51Jayce^harleypig, that's the *last* thing you need
16:38.51flyboy^Sort of like the Chinese resturants have a different menu if you speak Mandarin.
16:39.11^Migs^what's at the greek festival?
16:39.16^Migs^Greek-Americans?
16:39.43redbear1have you ever been to the greek orthodox church in slc? there's a museum in the basement, with pictures of places in salt lake that are actually owned by greeks
16:40.05^Migs^where's the church?
16:40.20levi^Migs^: Yes, they put on traditional dances and cook lots of food.
16:40.41redbear1hrm... 3rd south and... umm.. 3rd west? somewhere around there?
16:40.47jsmithAnd when levi says "lots", he means "mountains" of food.
16:40.49redbear1that's where they have the greek festival
16:41.09Jayce^and on that note, always avoid a Norweigan festival.. my hometown was famous for one....  
16:41.11^Migs^is it fun for the kids?
16:41.15Jayce^you *don't* want the traditional food
16:41.18flyboy^Okay, so one time a year I can eat traditional food?
16:41.20redbear1there's a carnival for the kids
16:41.25^Migs^plus those weegies are crazy
16:41.36^Migs^when is the Greek Festival?
16:41.38jsmithJayce^: What, everyone sits around and eats lutefish?
16:41.44Jayce^lutefisk
16:41.47Jayce^yes
16:41.54jsmithYeah, that's what I meant to type
16:41.54redbear1dude, apollo burger, burger supreme, jim's place, those are all owned by real greeks.
16:41.58Jayce^there was actually a lutefisk eating competition
16:41.59flyboy^I enjoyed the traditional dishes I have tried... actually grew sort of an attachment to them.
16:42.01^Migs^other cultures' foods and customs are just so wrong
16:42.08jsmithJayce^: That's sick and wrong!
16:42.26neybarthe festival is generally in the fall
16:42.33redbear1what's that holiday in september? memorial day?
16:42.37^Migs^labor day
16:42.37tensaiit went like this, "I dare you to eat that lutefisk!"
16:42.43redbear1labor day.
16:42.45^Migs^memorial day is in May
16:42.49redbear1greek festival is the weekend after labor day.
16:42.52^Migs^nice
16:43.14Jayce^my town had barf bags located as much as a block away from the competition
16:43.21Jayce^and they were needed
16:43.27Jayce^just that smell... *gag*
16:43.35redbear1tip: go early, for the greek festival. like just before lunch on saturday morning.
16:43.38Jayce^you know when even the memory of a smell makes you gag
16:43.44redbear1unless you want to stand in line for 2 hours for food.
16:44.04^Migs^lutefisk doesn't seem so bad
16:44.16Jayce^^Migs^, what are you smoking then
16:44.30Jayce^I know crack aint enough to make people interested in that crap
16:44.44jsmith^Migs^: You don't want to try it.
16:44.56redbear1^Migs^: fear the lutefisk.
16:45.16^Migs^I'll try anything.  Usually, I won't mind whatever I try.
16:45.21Jayce^it's the one foreign food that really is worse than the stories
16:45.28Jayce^^Migs^, you know what lutefisk is?
16:45.42^Migs^yes I do.  Whitefish or something that has had all sorts of crap done to it
16:45.49jsmith^Migs^: I'm that way too... but lutefisk is one thing I don't think I'll ever have again.
16:45.57Jayce^cod soaked in lye for a year, and elft out
16:46.17flyboy^hey, I've had Chitlins. Boiled!
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16:46.31flyboy^That has got to be on the top list of most disgusting things to eat.
16:46.49jsmithflyboy^: That's nothing...
16:47.08jsmithflyboy^: There are much worse things to eat than chitlins...
16:47.12vontrappi have a problem with my X
16:47.25vontrappit worked until an upgrade and reboot, then it stopped working
16:47.30Jayce^lutefisk winds up as this strange cloudy jelly with bones in it
16:47.41leviHmm, Wikipedia says it only smells bad when made from cod, and it's nearly odorless when made from haddock or pollock.
16:47.46^Migs^can't talk about that now, vontrapp.  We're trying to make ourselves throw up.
16:48.03vontrappthe problem is when i 'startx -- -layout monitor' it still goes to the TV
16:48.09flyboy^Well, I don't feel so hungry now. So thanks. I guess.
16:48.19vontrappbut even then, X just refuses connections
16:48.21Jayce^levi, not true, let me tell you...  I've seen it from everything from Halibut to people even trying salmon (doesn't work at all)
16:48.28vontrappwithout the layout option it works fine... on the TV
16:48.43vontrappit's kinda hard to program on a TV
16:49.01vontrappthe configuration remained unchanged
16:49.14harleypigvontrapp: why?  I think it would be entertaining!
16:49.49leviJayce^: The warning in Wikipedia about not letting it sit in lye for too long or the fats turn into soap is kind of scary. :)
16:51.45^Migs^where is it in Italy that they eat that cheese infested with maggots?
16:51.52redbear1they eat what?
16:51.56redbear1yer kidding!
16:52.12^Migs^yeah, there's some town or something where it's a delicacy
16:52.20redbear1that's just freaky
16:52.28Jayce^mmm, protein
16:52.32^Migs^casu marzu
16:52.35redbear1but i suppose it would be higher in protein
16:52.38^Migs^that's the name of the cheese
16:52.51^Migs^here we go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu
16:52.53dataw0lfcasu marzu
16:52.55dataw0lfyea
16:52.58dataw0lfit's good.
16:53.13dataw0lftime to fly!
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16:53.48levi"What is the difference between snot and lutefisk?" "You can't get kids to eat lutefisk."
16:54.04redbear1gah! eye protection for eating cheese?
16:54.13^Migs^I think I probably wouldn't try casu marzu.  Anything else I would.
16:55.52leviMaybe if it had the maggots cleaned out of it first.
16:56.20leviHaving them bore around in my intestines sounds unpleasant.
16:56.21redbear1you know, i was just reading that cinco de mayo is coming up... you ever tried menudo before?
16:56.30leviI have.  Didn't care for it.
16:57.43^Migs^heh
16:58.26redbear1^Migs^: what better excuse to try menudo than a mexican holiday?
16:59.18^Migs^I'll have to ask my mother-in-law to cook menudo for me
16:59.25^Migs^never had that either
16:59.41redbear1oh man. my laptop overheated last night during an fsck and shut itself down.
17:00.16redbear1so i feel vontrapp's pain. or at least did for the hour it took to recover.
17:00.56vontrappredbear1: i sent it in for repairs on thursday
17:01.07leviMenudo isn't really very remarkable.  As far as 'gross' foods go, it's pretty tame!
17:01.34^Migs^what's gravlax?
17:01.35Jayce^feijoada!
17:01.37vontrapp... the website still tells me it doesn't know when it will be done
17:01.49Jayce^and the real kind, not the paulista crap
17:01.51vontrapphasn't shipped back yet
17:02.19redbear1^Migs^: gravlax is just a type of smoked salmon
17:02.42^Migs^okay
17:03.32redbear1it's very tasty
17:03.32^Migs^http://www.geocities.com/adams_dhanjal/recipes/archive/Rays_List_of_Weird_and_Disgusting_Foods.htm
17:03.34brac[Ray's List of Weird and Disgusting Foods]
17:04.27^Migs^I wish it was legal in the U.S.
17:04.27redbear1mmm, haggis
17:04.51redbear1i actually saw a can of vegetarian haggis at the london market in salt lake on saturday
17:05.22^Migs^vegetarian haggis?
17:05.26Jayce^wonder why he thinks Geoduck Clams are strange
17:05.28^Migs^that's as dumb as boca patties
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17:05.44redbear1yeah, well, they had it. i almost bought it, just because it was there.
17:05.45^Migs^he's trying to be unbiased
17:05.52Jayce^they're just a big clam
17:05.53^Migs^because OTHER culture think geoduck clams are strange, presumably
17:06.08Jayce^huge, but just a clam
17:06.08^Migs^he also put bread, beer, and peanut butter on there
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17:06.31^Migs^perhaps the hugeness is what some people find disgusting
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17:08.19redbear1crisps with flavors? that's just flavored potato chips.
17:08.57jsmith^Migs^: Haggis is illegal?
17:09.52redbear1jsmith: some of the ingredients of an authentic haggis have been "deemed unfit for human consumption" by the fda
17:10.23redbear1things like sheep's lung are illegal to sell stateside
17:10.23jsmithredbear1: Strange... customs didn't stop me from bringing it into the country ;-)
17:11.02^Migs^http://www.thehansofoundation.org/
17:11.03brac[The Hanso Foundation]
17:11.39redbear1jsmith: where did you get it? were you in scotland?
17:12.22jsmithredbear1: Yup... man, I'm really craving haggis, neeps and tatties, and some sticky toffee pudding...
17:12.29flyboy^Congrats to those on the list:
17:12.29flyboy^Congrats to those on the list: 11:03:37  ^Migs^ okay
17:12.42flyboy^How about this list: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060503/law035.html?.v=54 ;)
17:12.44brac[vSpring Capital Releases Its List of the 2006 Top 100 Venture Entrepreneurs: Financial News - Yahoo!
17:12.44bracFinance]
17:15.28vontrapp~lart hp
17:15.38vontrappi knew i shoulda just soldered the thing myself
17:15.54vontrappit twas only a loose connection
17:15.57Jayce^wow, josh made it on
17:17.39^Migs^my old company made the list at least two years in a row
17:18.01^Migs^hmmm, not this list.  Another one, by Mountainwest Venture
17:18.56^Migs^so never mind
17:28.51RyanEWoo Hoo!  3 of our execs made it on the list.
17:30.13^Migs^which execs?
17:30.25RyanEControl4
17:30.40RyanEGlen Mella, Eric Smith, Will West.
17:30.47flyboy^If you look on vsprings site they list control4 as being one of the biggest ventur draws.
17:31.07flyboy^http://vspring.com/press/2006-04-25-Control4.htm
17:31.17^Migs^sounds like a sweet company
17:31.49flyboy^SliceX, Linux Networx and Control 4 brought in 60 million.
17:33.56RyanEflyboy^: thanks.  I had not seen that one.
17:34.48flyboy^Now if housing prices would just slow down long enough for me to buy a house..... :)
17:35.12^Migs^I bought mine last year
17:35.17redbear1does anyone here work for linux networx?
17:35.32Jayce^levi does
17:35.38leviYup, I do.
17:35.51redbear1you know a guy named david james?
17:36.09leviYeah, we ride our road bikes together at lunch all the time.
17:36.41redbear1cool
17:37.09leviHow do you know him?
17:37.20redbear1he's my bishop
17:37.34leviOh, cool, I didn't realize he was a bishop.
17:37.42leviHe's definitely a cool guy, though.
17:37.57redbear1if he's the same guy. seems like a common name tho.
17:38.21leviI can see him being a bishop, I just didn't know he was.
17:38.49redbear1yeah
17:39.40leviHe's really got himself in shape over the last couple years of cycling.
17:40.39leviAnd cross-country skiing, and backpacking, and whatever other stuff he does.
17:40.42redbear1i need to start biking again. it's been a while.
17:41.04Jayce^a very looong while in your case redbear1
17:41.10leviHe's definitely one of the guys I admire most here.
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17:47.18redbear1~lart Jayce^
17:47.26Jayce^~dog redbear1
17:47.27ibotACTION stares at redbear1 until redbear1 whimpers and pees all over himself.
17:47.42redbear1feh.
17:47.59redbear1levi: what do you do at linux networx?
17:49.07RyanEyeah, do you do the linux or the networx?
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18:02.55sjansenlevi doesn't do either
18:03.39sjansenhe sits in an employee lounge within earshot of the cafeteria and pontificates about the superiority of scheme/haskell/etc.
18:03.51emcnabb~lart sjansen
18:03.54emcnabbget back to work
18:04.34sjansenmanagement has discovered that although levi doesn't accomplish anything, it's a net win because co-workers rush back to their work to avoid him
18:05.51sjansenlevi: you know I love you, right?
18:05.57sjansenyou know I'm just kidding, right?
18:06.03sjansendo you forgive me?
18:06.07sjansenplease forgive me!
18:06.26sjansenI'm very, very sorry. I'm a horrible person. I should be punished.
18:06.32sjansen...
18:06.42sjansenAs my punishment, I will lart emcnabb.
18:06.44sjansen~lart emcnabb
18:06.56sjansen~lart Jayce^
18:07.14sjansenNope, I still don't feel repentant.
18:07.18sjansen~lart tensai
18:07.32sjansen~lart elg
18:07.36sjansen~lart goozbach
18:07.40sjansen~lart maquis
18:07.54^Migs^~lart sjansen
18:08.19sjansenlevi: It's just not working. larting people isn't making me feel like being nicer. I guess you'll just have to forgive me, wretched man that I am.
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18:19.07emcnabbsjansen: you need help
18:19.09emcnabblots of help
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18:36.39leviredbeard1: I work on embedded software for cluster (or 'supersystem', as we call them now) management.
18:37.04leviI also eat lunch, which is why I took so long to respond. :)
18:37.17redbeard1aye. just got back from lunch myself.
18:37.44redbeard1such a good sandwich.
18:41.22^Migs^we had Chinese food catered
18:41.42leviI had a slice of pizza and the last of a Costco chicken enchilada.
18:41.42^Migs^scrumpyums
18:42.01redbeard1mmm, costco food!
18:42.09redbeard1love that stuff
18:43.00^Migs^Sams has better food
18:44.09leviI love costco mangos.
18:44.26redbeard1me too
18:44.28leviThe ones I get from grocery stores never seem to be ripe.
18:44.41leviI've never got a bad bunch from costco.
18:44.52redbeard1you ever made tropical salsa with mangos? so tasty.
18:44.52leviMy wife loves mangos, so we used to get them all the time.
18:45.08leviNope, but I have bought costco's mango salsa before.
18:45.14leviWhich is pretty darn tasty.
18:45.41redbeard1mangos, and papaya, and pineapple, and red onion... lime juice, clinatro... served over kai yang. you should try it.
18:46.19redbeard1oh, and jalapeno, of course. can't forget that.
18:48.39^Migs^and lutefisk
18:52.13redbeard1well sure, you can't forget the lutefisk.
18:52.21redbeard1unless of course, you're sane.
18:55.30redbeard1tensai: you around?
18:55.38leviredbeard1: You're pretty keen on the spicy stuff, eh? :)
18:55.51redbeard1love the spicy.
18:56.13redbeard1i used to make a southwest spice rub that i called "deathcrier"
18:58.30levicarbonara is supposed to be spiced with black pepper, though, not jalapenos and tabasco. ;)
18:58.57redbeard1i told you italians would probably be laughing at it
18:59.16redbeard1i wouldn't even call it carbonara. it was just inspired by that.
18:59.31leviIt made me want to make carbonara again, though.
18:59.55redbeard1never even had the real stuff. i should, eventually.
19:00.05leviYeah, it's really yummy.
19:00.28redbeard1i had the quiznos carbonara once. it's pretty good. not their best tho.
19:00.55leviI doubt it bears much more than a passing resemblance to real carbonara.
19:01.22redbeard1i don't think i would even give it that much credit.
19:01.27redbeard1but it was tasty.
19:03.04^Migs^I'm going to ask my friend if he's ever had Tiger penis soup
19:03.13^Migs^he's KOREAN.  You know he eats all sorts of weird stuff.
19:03.19leviI'm not likely to have to cook anything from scratch for quite some time.
19:03.21redbeard1no kidding
19:03.42leviMy mom visited for a week after our daughter was born and went nuts preparing and freezing meals for us.
19:04.39redbeard1wow. so yer set for a while, eh?
19:05.46^Migs^everyone in my house has come down with a flu
19:05.53^Migs^I better not get it.  I have no more sick leave this fiscal year
19:06.36^Migs^hmmm.  he's not aware of tiger penis soup
19:06.46leviFortunately, my mom makes yummy food.
19:07.08leviShe also filled the remaining space in our freezers with Costco frozen food.
19:07.16levi(thus the enchiladas)
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19:13.54harleypigBULBOUS BOUFFANT!
19:14.14redbeard1~dog harleypig
19:14.16ibotACTION stares at harleypig until harleypig whimpers and pees all over himself.
19:16.09emcnabb~slap harleypig
19:16.11ibotACTION slaps harleypig, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
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19:30.42sjansenemcnabb: get back to work!
19:31.05sjansen~hug ruby
19:31.07ibotACTION hugs ruby
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19:32.00sjansenI wish I had more time to play with Ruby. Writing Ruby makes me happy. It's no wonder that Rails was invented by a Ruby programmer. Rails makes me happy too.
19:32.16leviI'm going to have to learn Ruby at some point.
19:32.27leviBut I don't really have time right now either.
19:32.39leviI need better time management skills.  That's what I need.
19:33.19sjansenLooks who's talking. I'm even worse.
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19:35.10levisjansen: Yeah, but I have less time, so I need to manage it better.
19:35.32levisjansen: Come talk to me again when you're back in school and have a family. :)
19:36.30Jayce^yeah, the family really drains at being able to play with stuff
19:36.49sjansenWhat do you mean? Now you've got a wife to do laundry and run errands for you. Pretty soon you'll have little slaves to do other work like mow the lawn and do your homework.
19:37.00sjansenFrom where I'm sitting, you've got it easy. ;-)
19:37.11leviUm, yeah.  From where /you're/ sitting.
19:38.18leviFrom where I'm sitting, my wife spends all day taking care of the baby, so I must now do housework and cooking for two, make sure I spend time with her to preserve her sanity, and still find time to do my homework. :)
19:38.32sjansenYou want to talk time drain? Travelling kills time. Just getting dinner is usually a two to three hour process what with traffic, and waiting to be seated, and waiting for the meal.
19:38.54leviYeah, if you want to go to a fancy restaurant.
19:38.58Jayce^dont' forget yardwork, repairs, and such outside of cleaning
19:39.08leviYou could order takeout and sit in your hotel room hacking.
19:39.13leviOr room service.
19:39.14Jayce^oh, and the *financial* drain
19:39.14obfuscatedand wife nagging you that "you're not spending enough time with the kids"
19:39.18sjansenOn the one hands, teaching is incredibly easy. Talking for 8 hours or more isn't, however.
19:39.32sjansenTo say nothing of the fact that I have to teach up hill both ways everyday.
19:39.33obfuscatedand "we don't ever have enough money"
19:39.35graphyxI think I am on Levi's side on this one.  The time that the wife uses to take care of laundry and stuff doesn't even come close to the time required to care for said wife/kids/house.
19:39.36emcnabb~fight sjansen
19:39.38ibotACTION laughs as sjansen reboots cobra.mcnabbs.org sending emcnabb into the aether
19:39.43emcnabb~fight levi
19:39.46ibotACTION laughs as levi reboots cobra.mcnabbs.org sending emcnabb into the aether
19:39.47sjansenAnd when I'm done, my students kill me, eat me, and put me in a paper bag.
19:39.54emcnabbdang
19:40.00sjansenNo sir, I think you've got it easy levi.
19:40.12obfuscatedsjansen: just wait till you have to do that and deal with a wife and kids ;-)
19:40.23Jayce^it'll never happen :)
19:40.28graphyx~eat sjansen
19:40.29ibotACTION eats sjansen and falls over dead
19:40.40emcnabblevi: At least you don't have a laptop as big as sjansen; heck, if I had to carry that around all day I'd be grumpy like sjansen
19:40.42graphyxIs that what happens to your students?
19:40.51emcnabbsjansen's laptop that is :-)
19:41.05obfuscatedmy kids kill me, eat me, and put me in paper bags
19:41.13graphyxI think a laptop as big as sjansen would be pretty bad too.
19:41.18emcnabbyes, it would
19:41.30Jayce^in that order obfuscated? do they then light the bag and leave it on a doorstep?
19:41.42obfuscatedsometimes
19:41.49sjansenA laptop is meant to be _used_. My laptop is _useful_. You want to pick on a laptop, pick on harleypig.
19:42.10emcnabbhaha; sjansen has a wimpy laptop
19:42.18Jayce^wuss wuss wuss
19:42.29leviI have a wimpy laptop, but it's very useful!  I use it all the time.
19:42.32Jayce^~covet neybar's macbook pro
19:42.34obfuscatednow I have to deal with a stupid dell
19:42.48obfuscated~covet
19:43.01sjansenThou shalt not covet!
19:43.14obfuscatedbut you can ~covet
19:43.19sjansen~condemn obfuscated
19:43.26obfuscated~strike sjansen
19:43.39obfuscated~lightningrod sjansen
19:43.54redbeard1http://eatliver.com/i.php?n=970
19:43.55brac[Funeral home ad]
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19:46.02Jayce^nice photoshop
19:49.37^Migs^This site is blocked under the following categories: Jokes, Lingerie, Sex, Swimsuits
19:49.37^Migs^heh
19:50.09redbeard1wow. that's diverse.
19:50.52emcnabb^Migs^: if you were able to click the "Next" button you'd see why :-)
19:50.52^Migs^apparently
19:51.45^Migs^why are jokes blocked, I wonder
19:51.51redbeard1wow. sorry about that. i jut thought the sign was funny.
19:52.26sjansenswimsuits?
19:52.37emcnabbredbeard1: it was funny
19:52.39BL4^Migs^, its a combitnation of Jokes, Lingerie, Sex, and Swimsuits, if you just had Sex, it would be okay
19:52.54sjansenNow, I could understand blocking harleypig in a swimsuit.
19:52.57graphyxok this one is cool.
19:52.57graphyxhttp://eatliver.com/i.php?n=961
19:52.58brac[Pranks]
19:53.14redbeard1sjansen: did you really have to say that?
19:53.35sjansenredbeard1: I could do worse. You should have been here a few years ago.
19:53.54sjansenI still randomly twitch because of the memory.
19:54.21redbeard1sjansen: yeah, we can all be thankful for small favors, i guess
19:55.38Jayce^sjansen, you didn't like the image of him doing the macarena in a thong?
19:56.05sjansen^Migs^: Two men walk into a bar. Third one ducks.
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19:56.16sjansenJust in case you were going into joke withdrawl.
19:56.18redbeard1Jayce^: my. this is one obscene chat room. and to think it was the funeral sign that got blocked.
19:57.44SpecialKI need to purchase an mp3 player. Any opinons about which ones work well and are a good deal.
19:58.12neybaraside from price I really love the ipod
19:58.19Jayce^agreed
20:08.38emcnabbI think tonight is a Ruth's Chris night
20:09.42maquisit's really quite funny watcing computers pound at vending machines trying to get their food to drop out
20:09.52maquisdr ventura just picked it up an inch and dropped it
20:10.20goozbachcomputers pound at vending machines?
20:10.55maquiser
20:11.01maquiscomputer science professors
20:11.13BL4anyone ever thing we'll eventually by CPU's at vending machines?
20:11.14maquisit just got shortened because i was trying to watch and type at the same time
20:11.38maquishe did finally get it, btw
20:11.39maquis:)
20:12.58flyboy^Throw something at him and see what he does.
20:13.11flyboy^If he complains, tell him you were 'hacking' the faculty.
20:13.16flyboy^He might give you an A. ;)
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20:13.57vontrapp~lart hp
20:14.16vontrappif i had known they were going to deliver my laptop today i would have stayed home!
20:14.47neybarah, yes.  HP and their delivery times.
20:15.14vontrappi checked with customer support, it said that it wasn't done yet. let alone shipped already
20:15.24vontrappcome home and there's a fedex slip on my dor
20:15.27vontrappdoor
20:15.44leviHeh.
20:18.14maquisflyboy^: haha
20:18.17SpecialKIs there something cheaper than an ipod that performs as well?
20:18.37maquisSpecialK: depends on what you want, how much storage you need, etc
20:18.52maquisi've heard the iRivers are pretty sweet, but for the same amount of storage, you pay more, iirc
20:19.16vontrappuh oh
20:19.49vontrappwhen i sent it it was 8 pounds
20:20.18vontrappsavages!
20:21.27SpecialKI don't buy much music
20:21.41vontrappi've heard good things about the iriver (i think that's the one i heard about)
20:21.47emcnabbSpecialK: pirate!
20:21.48vontrapplike linux interoperability and such
20:23.00SpecialKemcnabb:   Listening to the radio makes me a pirate?
20:23.21emcnabbI have an iRiver H120. It's an older model, but it has a 20 GB HD, plays OGGs, etc. I don't know much about the newer models iRiver has come out with.
20:23.56emcnabbmine has a radio tuner too, which is nice
20:24.04flyboy^Any perl mongers out there wanna tell me the easiest way to get a random element of an array?
20:24.16SpecialKmostly I need something to put all my Mens Chorus CD's on.
20:24.40emcnabbMy wife has an iAudio (5?), and it's pretty nice
20:24.44SpecialKSinging along is about the only activity that I can do that will keep me awake driving to Texas
20:24.52emcnabbit's small and feature-rich
20:25.12^Migs^wow, I'm feeling burned out
20:25.21emcnabbthe only problem is tech support. We had problems with it, and there are only 2 - 3 support people in the US
20:25.46emcnabbonce I was able to get ahold of them (which was impossible) the were about to replace it quickly
20:26.06SpecialKIs there a law that requires music player names to be i*  ?
20:26.36emcnabbI installed Windows just so that I could upgrade the firmware on it, and Windows rebooted in the middle of the update
20:26.37findlayI'm going to name my player jPlayer
20:26.41vontrappSpecialK: yes, the iNeedaCoolName law
20:26.43maquisemcnabb: i'm still waiting to hear that story from yesterday :-P
20:26.50emcnabbkeep waiting :-)
20:26.55maquis(was it yesterday?  or was it from before that?)
20:26.58maquisemcnabb: :(
20:27.00maquisc'mon :)
20:27.15vontrapp~story maquis
20:27.46emcnabbI have a 33 hr drive coming up
20:27.58SpecialKfun
20:28.13SpecialKI hope Austin isn
20:28.18SpecialK't 33 hours
20:28.31vontrappplaying oggs would be a big deal for me in picking a player
20:28.43maquisemcnabb: 33 hour is long!
20:28.48emcnabbvontrapp: it would be if you had thousands of OGG files
20:29.12emcnabbI have more OGG files than MP3s
20:29.12vontrapp:)
20:29.20emcnabb~lart vontrapp
20:29.20vontrappyeah me too
20:29.39BL4~lart America Online
20:30.07redbeard1that seems a bit tame for AOL
20:30.16flyboy^$alpha[int(rand(@alpha))] -- that seems to do it.
20:30.36Jayce^flyboy^, should cast to the int, don't need that.
20:30.48Jayce^perl -e '@a = (1,2,3,4,5); print $a[ rand(@a) ]'
20:31.11emcnabbwell, I guess it's time to break the news... we're moving out east
20:31.24redbeard1where to?
20:31.28Jayce^emcnabb, what fer? changing jobs?
20:31.58leviOnly 33 hours?
20:32.01leviWeak!
20:32.12emcnabbmoving to North Carolina; working at Red Hat
20:32.21Jayce^slacer
20:32.22Jayce^slacker
20:32.24emcnabb~lart levi
20:32.32Jayce^headrat
20:32.34maquis~dog Jayce^
20:32.35ibotACTION stares at Jayce^ until Jayce^ whimpers and pees all over himself.
20:32.37redbeard1hey, i have some cousins that live by redhat... out in apex.
20:32.42flyboy^Jayce^: Thanks.
20:32.56leviI drove from Tacoma, WA to Frederick, MD.
20:33.07leviNow that's a drive!
20:33.10emcnabbredbeard1: we've looped at Apex in our house hunting
20:33.14emcnabblevi: you win
20:34.05redbeard1apex looks like a nice town
20:34.12findlaysomeday I'll drive from Point Barrow to the Straits of Magellan
20:34.12emcnabbwe ate dinner last week with a family in Queretaro who drove last summer to upstate New York to pick up their daughter from her mission
20:34.49leviI lived in Charlottesville, NC for a while.  Or, more accurately, in Ft. Bragg.
20:34.59maquis~dog emcnabb
20:35.01ibotACTION stares at emcnabb until emcnabb whimpers and pees all over himself.
20:35.31emcnabbI have some relative in the area, and we'll be a lot closer to our immediate families
20:35.54leviI like the east coast.
20:35.58Jayce^and even better, farther away from us :)
20:36.06emcnabb~whaleslap Jayce^
20:36.08ibotACTION beats Jayce^ upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
20:36.18emcnabbibot, I'll miss you!
20:36.31emcnabblevi: same here
20:37.03leviExcept for the humidity in the summer and the ice storms in the winter. :)
20:37.11maquisemcnabb: are you leaving #utah?
20:37.26maquisi mean... leaving utah is one thing... leaving #utah is much worse
20:38.20findlay~leave #utah
20:38.25maquisno!
20:38.33findlayyes!
20:40.07sjansenemcnabb: we'll miss you too
20:40.23sjansenAlthough, with practice I expect my aim will get better.
20:40.40mheathWait
20:40.46mheathToday is freakin pay day
20:40.47findlay~miss emcnabb
20:40.48ibotACTION whips from his hip a six shooter and fires just to the right of emcnabb
20:40.54mheathNo wonder I'm so low on money =P
20:41.08mheathI was thinking it was last week...
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20:50.50^Migs^mheath, you know Java right?  Do you know how to tell the File methods to overwrite an existing file?
20:50.53^Migs^I can't find it in the API docs
20:51.13^Migs^and I'm burned out, and feel like asking someone else to do all my work
20:53.12maquis^Migs^: a9.com has the ability to search the javadocs
20:53.39emcnabbmaquis: I'll stick around #utah
20:53.43maquisemcnabb: good
20:53.47maquisi was worried there for a second
20:54.15redbeard1emcnabb: you gonna stick around openclue too?
20:54.31maquisredbeard1: they'll keep him on there :)
20:54.41redbeard1oh good.
20:55.00maquiselg: you dropped off the openclue map
20:55.16emcnabbmaybe I'll post something someday :-)
20:55.54elgmaquis: just haven't posted anything
20:56.11elgemcnabb: you moving?
20:56.21elgyou gonna be goo's lackey?
20:56.23emcnabbyeah
20:56.32emcnabbnope
20:56.48emcnabbI will be close(r) to goozbach
20:57.27redbeard1wait, where is goozbach?
20:57.33emcnabbFlorida
20:58.03^Migs^is anyone else concerned that a Floridian is an op in #utah?
20:58.05redbeard1oh, right. i knew that.
20:58.09maquissadness
20:58.19maquiseveryones' moving east ;(
20:58.28maquis^Migs^: nope
20:58.31redbeard1go east, life is hectic there.
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20:58.59^Migs^it makes me nervous, like there's some sabotage going on from within
20:59.17^Migs^I'll be going south in about half an hour, to go back home
20:59.18maquiswell... TimRiker and Jayce^ will still be here
21:00.46maquisand of course, we've still got ibot... and ...  is chansrev from utah?
21:00.48maquis:)
21:01.07maquiswhy do people have [Utah] in front of their name?
21:01.33redbeard1maquis: i assumed it was a secret combination or something
21:02.26BL4lol
21:02.38maquisredbeard1: good guess
21:02.44maquisthose secret combinations... what can i say
21:02.45elghey, I have op too, and I'm in new mexico. tim was in texas for a long while
21:02.51BL4maquis, I assume its your irc program stating they are in the room utah
21:02.52elgand ibot with him
21:02.53maquiseven my locker is in on them
21:03.02maquisBL4: no... because only 4 of them have it
21:03.06elgemcnabb: you haven't told me where. closer to goozbach is kind of general
21:03.22maquisi'll still have op (hopefully) when i move to washington
21:03.34BL4oh, lol, I suppose its a gang of some type
21:04.58findlayI propose that only people who live in Utah can be an op on the channel, that is everyone who lives in Utah be made an automatic op and everyone else has to relinquish op status
21:05.14maquis<PROTECTED>
21:05.16*** mode/#utah [+o elg] by ChanServ
21:05.17maquisoh... wait...
21:05.23maquishave to put on my @ first
21:05.23elgall in favor say /kick
21:05.29findlayibot: do you live in Utah?
21:05.31ibotyes, I live in Utah.
21:05.31*** mode/#utah [+o maquis] by ChanServ
21:05.33*** kick/#utah [findlay!n=fugalh@hfugal.NMSU.Edu] by elg (op compatibility test)
21:05.42maquiselg: you beat me to it
21:06.11maquisanyone else in favor of findlay's plot?
21:06.18elghooray, these dsp boards can use sin() and cos(). I was worried about that.
21:06.28elgnow I can be lazy and not make a lookup table.
21:07.15leviIt is somewhat annoying that elg disappears so abruptly.
21:07.28^Migs^ibot: do you find me attractive?
21:07.29ibotyes, I find me attractive.
21:08.53maquis~onjoin findlay /kick findlay
21:08.53ibotmaquis: ok
21:10.10nick125hahahah
21:10.24nick125get another bot in here..
21:10.30maquiswell... ibot is an op
21:10.31nick125and have that bot do the onjoin
21:10.40nick125does ibot have a kick function?
21:10.46maquisnot one that works
21:10.49maquisbut... this might work
21:10.53^Migs^~onjoin ^Migs^ /kick ^Migs^
21:10.53ibot^Migs^: ok
21:10.53maquis~say /kick nick125
21:10.55ibot/kick nick125
21:10.57maquishmmm
21:10.58nick125lol
21:11.02maquismaybe it won't
21:11.06*** part/#utah ^Migs^ (n=Migs@205.122.50.21)
21:11.06maquis^Migs^: go for it
21:11.09*** join/#utah ^Migs^ (n=Migs@205.122.50.21)
21:11.14maquis:(
21:11.18^Migs^:(
21:11.29nick125I wonder..
21:11.32^Migs^~onjoin ^Migs^ STFU Migs
21:11.32ibotok, ^Migs^
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21:12.00nick125~say hi\r\nkick #utah nick125_lappy :test
21:12.03ibothi\r\nkick #utah nick125_lappy :test
21:12.04nick125:(
21:12.51maquis~kick nick125
21:12.52ibotbugger off sod!
21:12.59^Migs^~kick maquis
21:13.00ibotbugger off sod!
21:13.05nick125~kick ibot
21:13.07ibotbugger off sod!
21:13.15^Migs^~kick sod
21:13.19ibotbugger off sod!
21:13.21maquis~say /mode +b ^Migs^
21:13.23ibot/mode +b ^Migs^
21:13.42elg-lart solaris
21:13.57elgnice
21:14.27nick125~action dances
21:14.28ibotACTION dances
21:14.45nick125~action dances\r\nKICK #utah nick125_lappy :test
21:14.46ibotACTION dances\r\nKICK #utah nick125_lappy :test
21:14.50nick125:(
21:14.54maquis\/hello?
21:14.56maquishmmm
21:14.59maquisooh
21:15.09maquisnm
21:15.22nick125damnit
21:15.25nick125ibot is too smart
21:16.31emcnabbhttp://www.gizmag.com/go/5575/
21:16.53maquisprobably won't work, though
21:18.49^Migs^I don't know the inventor of television lived in Utah
21:19.09jsmithYup.
21:19.13bonez39maquis, back on my ssh question..now I get work >> home connecting but not home >> work...might removing and then reinstalling ssh help out?
21:19.14redbeard1i thought he lived in idaho
21:19.28maquisbonez39: what's the problem when you try to do home >> work?
21:19.37maquisbonez39: work == fyrenice.com?
21:19.57maquisif so, then it does have sshd working fine
21:20.20jsmithredbeard1: Yeah, he lived in Idaho *and* Utah...
21:23.38*** mode/#utah [+o goozbach] by ChanServ
21:24.00goozbach^Migs^: the votes I've tallied state that you must go
21:24.06*** mode/#utah [-v ^Migs^] by goozbach
21:26.08nick125:(
21:26.17^Migs^huh?
21:26.34^Migs^O NOES
21:26.40goozbach14:58 < ^Migs^> is anyone else concerned that a Floridian is an op in #utah?
21:26.50nick125LOL
21:26.52nick125nice
21:27.00^Migs^should I say "/me demands a recount" or is that just dumb
21:29.54nick125the channel isnt +m, and he isn't +q
21:31.13^Migs^maybe goozbach was feeling threatened that I was so close to the mods in the user list
21:32.00maquisJoeyDay|wgu: identity crisis?
21:32.22JoeyDay|wgumaquis: Sorry.
21:32.37maquisJoeyDay|wgu: :P
21:32.52JoeyDay|wguYeah, I switched to JoeyDay|wgu, but the system complained about the name belonging to someone else.
21:32.59JoeyDay|wguSo I realized I wasn't identefied to services.
21:33.21JoeyDay|wguSince I may end up using [Utah]JoeyDay again, I switched back in order to double-check that it really was registered and linked to my usual name.
21:33.33JoeyDay|wguIt was, so I switched back to my original name. :)
21:33.39maquisah
21:36.41bonez39maquis, work == fyrenice.com, home == zugraum.com
21:37.03bonez39maquis ssh work > home works....., but ssh home > work does NOT work
21:44.04elgman, sysv ipc is a nightmare
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21:59.31mheath^Migs^, still around?
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22:00.57mheath^Migs^, see File.delete() and File.createNewFile()
22:01.41mheathHmm
22:02.01leviGah, my i2c transactions are only occasionally having the desired effect.
22:02.11mheathDo you think that if I brought my shirt back down to the dry cleaners, they'd fix it?
22:02.28mheathThey completely ignored the existing creases, and ironed it like a normal civilian shirt.
22:02.36leviOh well, only the ones concering reading registers are necessary, and it's the ones for writing registers that aren't working consistently.
22:03.08bonez39mheath, what did you specify with them when you dropped the shirt off?
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22:04.20mheathbonez39, It's a US Navy utility uniform. It had existing creases where they needed to be.
22:05.18mheathhttp://resources.seacadets.org/graphics/creases.jpg
22:05.22mheathThats how I need it to be.
22:05.24jsmithmheath: I'm sure they'll fix it.
22:06.32bonez39mheath, of course.....but did the drycleaner know that? the person pressing it may not have been instructed that it needed creases a certain way
22:07.03mheathbonez39, I've taken them a US Navy uniform before. The creases on that are really funky, and they got them correct
22:07.24mheathWhich led me to assume that either, 1) They've pressed Navy uniforms before and know what they're doing, or 2) They're following the existing creases.
22:07.31bonez39odd
22:07.39mrpull-those creases are goofy.  i wouldn't iron that way unless I was specifically told to
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22:09.23mrpull-if I took a shirt out of the package and it had creases from being folded and took it to the cleaners...
22:10.00mrpull-would it be intuitive to iron along the existing creases?
22:13.39SpecialKI don't know about shirt creases, but trousers you shouldn't move.
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22:34.44xbmodder_lappyhow do you like the new VM?
22:34.55xbmodder_lappyis the _new_
22:35.10xbmodder_lappyAtarack.com up?
22:35.15nick125haven't really messed on the new VM yet..
22:35.24nick125the new site? no
22:35.47nick125xbmodder_lappy: join the other channel :P
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22:36.23xbmodder_lappywhy, are we selling something?
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22:36.50elggah
22:37.14elg./foo # I see 4 lines of output, as I should
22:37.45elg./foo >log; cat log # I see 18 lines of output, lines randomly repeated
22:37.48elgwhat the heck?
22:38.59elgthere are 4 runs of the program, the first with 1 process, the second with 2, third 3, fourth 4, but in all cases I kill the other processes
22:39.03elgand they don't print
22:39.45jsmithIs it a virus?
22:40.29elg-lart jsmith
22:40.29nick125haha
22:42.19elgI even tried closing the stdout file descriptor in the child processes
22:45.41BL4can you actually close the stdout?
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23:15.05maquisbonez39: sorry... had to go to class
23:15.08maquisi'm back now
23:15.29maquisbonez39: i was getting a password prompt back when i tried to ssh into fyrenice.com
23:15.37maquiswhat type of problem were you having?
23:15.52maquisare you getting a prompt? an error?  is it before or after you put in your password?
23:19.37bonez39maquis, I get a password prompt, but even though I supply the correct password, it won't ever authenticate...and let me in
23:19.54maquisbonez39: ssh1 or ssh2 or are you trying to combine the two?
23:19.58bonez39maquis, I could paste the ssh -v fyrenice.com output in #flood...
23:20.07maquisbonez39: that'd be good
23:20.08bonez39how do I tell whether I have 1 or 2?
23:20.29maquisis there a --version or anything like that?
23:21.05maquisssh -V
23:22.02maquisi believe that if the server's running ssh2, there's an option for it to not accept connections via ssh1
23:23.18maquis:)
23:27.26bonez39maquis, I was heading there...got distracted....be right there
23:27.51maquisnp
23:27.53maquis:)
23:29.35bonez39maquis it's all there from ssh -v fyrenice.com
23:29.37bonez39this is after I SUCCESSFULLY ssh zugraum.com...which is the home machine/domain....
23:29.39bonez39and then ssh out from it, back to this machine.....fyrenice.com
23:31.24maquishmmm
23:31.48maquisif you're ssh-ing out correctly, then it probably isn't a problem with caps-lock or something like that
23:31.58maquisand it's not a ssh version problem
23:32.06maquisand you're certain you're getting the password right
23:32.18maquisi'm assuming the usernames aren't different...
23:33.15maquisyou're currently on fyrenice.com?
23:33.45maquisfor a test, can you change the password to something simple, and check to see if you still can't get in (then change back to the original password)?
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