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| 01:32.28 | maquis | -lart ibot |
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| 02:03.52 | griffeymac | Hi folks. |
| 02:05.01 | emcnabb | hello |
| 02:05.30 | griffeymac | Are you "back"? |
| 02:05.45 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 02:05.54 | emcnabb | sunburn and all |
| 02:05.54 | griffeymac | How was the trip? |
| 02:05.59 | griffeymac | Ouch! |
| 02:06.10 | emcnabb | it went well, but I'm glad to be back |
| 02:06.22 | emcnabb | well, kind of I guess (I'm in Detroit this week) |
| 02:06.24 | griffeymac | Well good. I'm glad you made it back safely. |
| 02:06.32 | emcnabb | what's new with you? |
| 02:06.38 | griffeymac | Eh, Detroit, Utah--same thing. ;) |
| 02:06.54 | griffeymac | Nothing. I still can't find that darn keyboard. SURELY I didn't throw it away.... |
| 02:07.12 | griffeymac | Actually, tons is new--I don't know what I'm talking about. |
| 02:07.33 | griffeymac | I redid my Linux server at home--I installed a second drive (320 GB) and started from scratch with FC5. |
| 02:07.48 | emcnabb | sweet |
| 02:08.23 | griffeymac | I installed a second drive in my test server at work as well and did a fresh install of RHEL 4 ES. |
| 02:08.39 | griffeymac | RPMs are the way to go--that whole compiling stuff was for the birds. |
| 02:08.51 | emcnabb | I agree |
| 02:09.41 | griffeymac | Everything is going great--until, that is, it came time to deal with ColdFusion. GROAN. |
| 02:11.55 | emcnabb | I've never personally had to deal with Cold Fusion; I haven't heard too many things about it |
| 02:12.27 | emcnabb | s/things/good things/ |
| 02:21.21 | emcnabb | well all, it's bed time; I got to my hotel at 2 am last night |
| 02:21.26 | emcnabb | the joys of travel |
| 02:27.29 | maquis | -lart emcnabb |
| 02:27.35 | maquis | -lart griffeymac |
| 02:28.40 | griffeymac | maquis-- will that work on a Mac? |
| 02:29.36 | maquis | griffeymac: i don't think so |
| 02:29.43 | maquis | i think brac likes you and emcnabb |
| 02:30.08 | griffeymac | brac is a 'bot, yes? |
| 02:30.08 | brac | dunno |
| 02:30.21 | maquis | -brac |
| 02:30.26 | griffeymac | brac recognizes its name and question marks? |
| 02:30.26 | brac | I can't do that Dave. |
| 02:30.32 | maquis | -ibot |
| 02:30.38 | maquis | ~brac |
| 02:30.50 | ibot | well, brac is the enemy |
| 02:31.05 | maquis | griffeymac: ~ calls upon ibot, - calls upon brac |
| 02:31.10 | maquis | (or they answer to their names as well) |
| 02:31.22 | maquis | ~leopard griffeymac |
| 02:31.37 | ibot | ACTION sneaks up behind griffeymac, then pounces, bringing griffeymac to the ground |
| 02:31.38 | maquis | ibot: ping? |
| 02:31.42 | ibot | pong |
| 02:31.42 | griffeymac | Ooh. OS X.5. :) |
| 02:31.47 | maquis | ibot: you're lagged |
| 02:32.03 | maquis | griffeymac: does that make more sense? |
| 02:32.09 | griffeymac | Of course! |
| 02:32.16 | maquis | brigham used to live here too |
| 02:32.31 | maquis | he would learn (and respond) even when he wasn't called upon directly |
| 02:32.39 | griffeymac | Where did he go? |
| 02:32.40 | maquis | a couple people didn't like that, but i thought it was pretty cool |
| 02:32.53 | maquis | people didn't like him, so he got taken down |
| 02:33.02 | griffeymac | Huh. |
| 02:33.56 | maquis | yeah... |
| 02:34.02 | maquis | poor brigham |
| 02:34.07 | griffeymac | :( |
| 02:34.42 | maquis | iirc, brigham was also the bot that we almost managed to get into a loop with ibot |
| 02:34.56 | maquis | it's a bit difficult to get a loop because ibot ignores things that he's heard in the past 8 seconds |
| 02:35.53 | griffeymac | Huh. I knew a bot on a different channel and he was a Perl creation--are all bots such things or do they come from different backgrounds? |
| 02:36.01 | maquis | not all are |
| 02:36.18 | maquis | i don't remember how to get brac to tell about himself |
| 02:36.26 | maquis | but he's an rbot (written in ruby) |
| 02:36.32 | maquis | ~ibot |
| 02:36.38 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 02:36.51 | maquis | -introduce yourself |
| 02:36.52 | brac | I'm a v. 0.9.9 rubybot, (c) Tom Gilbert - http://linuxbrit.co.uk/rbot/ |
| 02:37.00 | maquis | that's how you do it with brac :) |
| 02:37.23 | griffeymac | AI is such a wonderful thing. |
| 02:37.29 | maquis | :) |
| 02:37.56 | griffeymac | So what do you do in Utah, maquis, if you don't mind my asking? |
| 02:37.56 | maquis | griffeymac: i'm a student |
| 02:37.56 | maquis | 4 more months! |
| 02:37.56 | griffeymac | BYU? |
| 02:37.59 | maquis | yup |
| 02:38.01 | griffeymac | CS? |
| 02:38.08 | maquis | yeah |
| 02:38.11 | griffeymac | Cool. |
| 02:38.14 | maquis | :) |
| 02:38.15 | griffeymac | I'm a CS student too. |
| 02:38.22 | maquis | cool |
| 02:38.25 | griffeymac | Except I'm 36, married with 2 kids, and work full time. :) |
| 02:39.04 | griffeymac | It's a much different perspective as an "adult" |
| 02:39.13 | griffeymac | (And I hesitate to refer to myself as an adult...) |
| 02:39.53 | griffeymac | Do you folks do you programming classes in C++ or Java? |
| 02:40.18 | griffeymac | (okay, I don't know how to do the modify thing, but I meant "your" not "you") |
| 02:40.32 | griffeymac | (Second "you"...) |
| 02:42.40 | maquis | we do a bit of a couple different languages |
| 02:42.44 | maquis | starts out in java |
| 02:42.58 | maquis | then there's a class in c++, a couple with C, and one in scheme... |
| 02:43.24 | maquis | and then depending on the 400-level classes, they're either choose-your-language or use-what-we-want |
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| 02:43.49 | maquis | the modify thing is simple... |
| 02:43.57 | maquis | s/simple/not complex/ |
| 02:44.25 | maquis | i don't know how you'd do it where you only want to change the second one, though... i don't think ibot can handle that :) |
| 02:44.35 | maquis | s/you/blah/ |
| 02:44.40 | maquis | yeah |
| 02:44.59 | maquis | testing balkakjdf kaj testing |
| 02:45.10 | maquis | s/test/eat/g |
| 02:45.12 | griffeymac | So the s + slash == tell it to change |
| 02:45.24 | maquis | yeah |
| 02:45.30 | maquis | you use vim? |
| 02:45.31 | griffeymac | s/slash/nothing |
| 02:45.45 | griffeymac | I guess I didn't go fast enough. |
| 02:45.52 | griffeymac | I use "regular" vi. |
| 02:46.06 | maquis | it's the same as vim's :%s/foo/bar/ syntax |
| 02:46.15 | maquis | vi might have it too |
| 02:46.30 | griffeymac | I'll take a look. |
| 02:46.39 | griffeymac | s/look/see |
| 02:46.58 | griffeymac | Is it ... |
| 02:47.02 | griffeymac | s/it/slash/ |
| 02:47.08 | griffeymac | Fair enough. |
| 02:49.15 | griffeymac | maquis: Have you started interviewing for jobs? |
| 02:49.37 | maquis | griffeymac: i actually have a job already... |
| 02:49.49 | maquis | so, i don't have to worry about apps |
| 02:49.56 | griffeymac | Wow! Very cool! |
| 02:51.14 | maquis | ~praise internships |
| 02:51.21 | ibot | All hail internships! |
| 02:59.21 | maquis | now i just need to pass everything |
| 03:02.17 | griffeymac | Piece of cake. |
| 03:02.27 | griffeymac | You probably know what you're doing. |
| 03:02.36 | griffeymac | I have to write an applet this week. Ugh. |
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| 03:36.08 | griffeymac | Good night, folks. I'm off to bed. |
| 03:48.17 | elg | super in c++? |
| 03:48.38 | elg | error: 'super' was not declared in this scope |
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| 04:26.34 | bonez41 | sleeping? |
| 04:34.53 | maquis | elg: see if it knows about supper |
| 04:35.06 | maquis | bonez41: waking up? |
| 04:36.00 | bonez41 | maquis, no...been awake all day |
| 04:36.43 | bonez41 | maquis, could you look at my partition information, if I paste it to #flood? I am having a problem freeing up some space on / |
| 04:36.57 | maquis | bonez41: sure |
| 04:37.04 | bonez41 | ok...heading there now... |
| 04:37.42 | bonez41 | maquis, sorry, I forgot....I can't access it..it's at my office.. |
| 04:37.49 | maquis | bonez41: ah... |
| 04:37.59 | maquis | bonez41: that'll make a difference |
| 04:38.07 | maquis | what are you trying to do, and where do you think the problem is? |
| 04:38.14 | bonez41 | anyway..here's what df -h shows.... essentially.... |
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| 04:38.36 | maquis | bonez41: erm... are you sticking that on #flood or here? |
| 04:38.51 | maquis | or do you want to just /msg me? |
| 04:39.00 | bonez41 | /dev/hde3 / 250 254 0 root... it may actually be /dev/hde1, but |
| 04:39.19 | maquis | ok |
| 04:39.22 | bonez41 | essentially, it shows a size for / of 250 mb .. with 245 mb used....and 0 available...or 100% used up...... |
| 04:39.33 | maquis | mmk |
| 04:39.41 | maquis | so, you've used it up |
| 04:39.47 | maquis | what other partitions do you have? |
| 04:39.53 | bonez41 | I'll paste it when I get over to my office.....I have been deleting stuff from various unused drives.....and nothing seems to change the df -h output...still shows 100% used |
| 04:39.55 | maquis | ie, do you have /home? /usr? etc |
| 04:40.29 | maquis | bonez41: try to catch me sometime tomorrow, and i'll take a look at it |
| 04:40.30 | bonez41 | it's an 80 gb drive....I have several partitions...for /home, /var, /usr ,/ , etc......about 6 partitions, all together.... |
| 04:40.41 | bonez41 | are you heading to bed now? |
| 04:40.56 | maquis | bonez41: probably in not too long |
| 04:41.12 | bonez41 | give me 10 minutes..I'll be over there..ok? don't go yet |
| 04:41.16 | maquis | ok |
| 04:41.18 | maquis | sounds good |
| 04:41.31 | maquis | bonez41: my main question will be for you to ls / |
| 04:41.45 | bonez41 | ok..I'll do that when I get there....brb |
| 04:42.21 | mheath | eh, tired |
| 04:42.31 | mheath | I need to get to bed earlier tonight |
| 04:42.39 | mheath | School will be easy tomorrow |
| 04:43.06 | mheath | Finish up these packets.... |
| 04:43.12 | mheath | Then I've got two weeks of school left? |
| 04:43.18 | mheath | s/?/! |
| 04:46.36 | maquis | -lart mheath |
| 04:46.50 | mheath | Hey, give me a break |
| 04:46.58 | mheath | for the first time in forever, my life is going my way |
| 04:48.03 | bonez39 | maquis? |
| 04:48.08 | maquis | bonez39: sup? |
| 04:48.10 | maquis | :) |
| 04:48.19 | bonez39 | mheath, wow..how does that feel...having life go YOUR WAY.... |
| 04:48.25 | bonez39 | I haven't arrived at that yet |
| 04:48.41 | maquis | me neither |
| 04:48.46 | bonez39 | hehe |
| 04:48.49 | mheath | bonez39, by that, I mean....I'm actually going to graduate :) |
| 04:48.52 | bonez39 | maquis..... |
| 04:48.54 | mheath | I have very little stress in my life |
| 04:48.56 | bonez39 | you'll make it.... |
| 04:49.07 | mheath | Stuff is easy, I'm enjoying it, I'm going to graduate. |
| 04:49.07 | bonez39 | in #flood. ? maquis? |
| 04:49.19 | mheath | This is temporary, though. In 57 days, all hell breaks lose :) |
| 04:49.20 | maquis | bonez39: there or /msg |
| 04:49.26 | maquis | or pastebin :) |
| 04:49.29 | maquis | i'm flexible |
| 04:49.34 | bonez39 | in #flood |
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| 05:15.50 | levi_ | So, I have a bunch of nifty gadgets now. |
| 05:16.40 | maquis | http://tuxgirl.com/photography/rainier-back2.jpg |
| 05:16.54 | levi_ | I've got an accelerometer, an ethernet module that speaks i2c, and an Xscale sbc board. |
| 05:17.13 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, your cool. |
| 05:17.21 | levi_ | maquis: Cool. :) |
| 05:17.28 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 05:17.29 | levi_ | maquis: Are you back in Seattle? |
| 05:17.40 | xbmodder_lappy | pretty! |
| 05:17.48 | maquis | levi_: not anymore |
| 05:17.51 | maquis | but i just got back today |
| 05:17.56 | maquis | and had some fun on the plane :) |
| 05:18.00 | levi_ | Ah, no wonder you were so scarce. |
| 05:18.08 | maquis | levi_: yeah... i was :) |
| 05:18.31 | levi_ | Have a nice break? |
| 05:18.36 | maquis | yeah |
| 05:18.41 | maquis | slept a ton, shopped a ton... :) |
| 05:22.56 | maquis | lol |
| 05:23.04 | maquis | a friend of mine just learned about the dmca |
| 05:23.23 | xbmodder_lappy | Lol |
| 05:23.31 | maquis | his reaction is... entertaining |
| 05:23.32 | maquis | :) |
| 05:25.35 | levi_ | Heh. |
| 05:27.20 | maquis | ;) |
| 05:28.20 | maquis | it is always interesting to see people's first reaction when they realize how stupid the government is sometimes |
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| 05:52.00 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 05:52.09 | elg | ~seen dilvie |
| 05:52.15 | ibot | dilvie <n=dilvie@c-67-161-255-229.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 5d 8h 44m 59s ago, saying: 'elg: cool. =)'. |
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| 05:56.13 | bonez41 | elg, mheath the graveyard crew? |
| 05:56.40 | elg | just about to hit the sack |
| 05:57.12 | bonez41 | elg, quick question.....maquis helped me find some folders and other junk unused..that I was able to clear space for my / partition.... |
| 05:57.34 | bonez41 | I am back home....and still can not ssh to that work machine, ...despite fact that nmap shows it's open on 22 to ssh.... |
| 05:57.45 | elg | try with -v |
| 05:57.52 | bonez41 | is this possibly requiring a reboot to all it to connect again? |
| 05:57.59 | bonez41 | nmap with -v? |
| 05:58.14 | bonez41 | ah, verbose for nmap, ok |
| 05:58.59 | bonez41 | still take a minute or two to scan everything....and then it reports this: |
| 05:59.14 | bonez41 | PORT STATE SERVICE |
| 05:59.14 | bonez41 | 22/tcp open ssh |
| 05:59.14 | bonez41 | 25/tcp open smtp |
| 05:59.14 | bonez41 | 80/tcp open http |
| 05:59.14 | bonez41 | 443/tcp open https |
| 05:59.23 | bonez41 | does that look as it should? |
| 06:01.33 | bonez41 | elg, one other question..how do I make a particular entry in menu.lst... boot by default? |
| 06:01.48 | elg | no, ssh -v |
| 06:02.11 | bonez41 | ah, verbose on the ssh connect attempt |
| 06:03.09 | bonez41 | debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive |
| 06:03.09 | bonez41 | Password: |
| 06:03.09 | bonez41 | debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive |
| 06:03.12 | bonez41 | I get this now.... |
| 06:16.23 | levi_ | elg: Are you familiar with numerical integration methods? |
| 06:17.38 | elg | only one comes to mind since I did it in a recent programming assignment |
| 06:17.46 | elg | monte carlo |
| 06:17.56 | elg | although I suppose that's technically statistical |
| 06:18.12 | levi_ | It's still numerical. |
| 06:18.32 | elg | bonez41: but you never get a password prompt? |
| 06:18.42 | levi_ | I need to transform data from an accelerometer into x,y coordinates. |
| 06:18.50 | bonez41 | elg, I did get a password prompt..but any password entered.....does NOT work |
| 06:19.05 | bonez41 | I think ssh simply needs to be restarted.....for it to work |
| 06:19.13 | levi_ | Euler's method is simple enough, but not very accurate. |
| 06:20.08 | elg | i got the impression that monte carlo is fairly accurate, given enough |
| 06:20.14 | elg | whatcha doin? |
| 06:21.04 | xbmodder_lappy | Firefox is sooo slow |
| 06:21.18 | levi_ | I'm looking at the 4th order Runge-Kutta method, but I'm pondering how to implement it given a stream of accelerometer readings rather than an acceleration function. |
| 06:21.37 | elg | um, yeah. fun. ;-) |
| 06:21.40 | levi_ | I'm working on a robot. :) |
| 06:21.52 | elg | a calculus-aware robot, no less |
| 06:22.06 | levi_ | Well, hopefully a positionally-aware robot. |
| 06:22.26 | levi_ | Or at least one that can determine how its position has changed. |
| 06:23.11 | elg | monte carlo involves generating a bunch of random points in the space (uniformly) and taking the mean of the points |
| 06:23.30 | levi_ | elg: That would involve a function, and I have a stream of data. |
| 06:24.02 | elg | truth |
| 06:24.34 | levi_ | I think RK4 only needs to look one dt into the future, so I could probably cache one data point before starting the integrator. |
| 06:25.31 | levi_ | From what I understand, it's like Euler's method but with a correction factor based on curve approximation. |
| 06:26.04 | levi_ | Anyway, I got a big pile of data sheets, books, and gadgets to work with. |
| 06:27.25 | levi_ | I've got a controller board with an Xscale cpu, an accelerometer hooked into a card that has a simple microcontroller and analog to digital converter so I can read the accelerometer data from a serial port, and an ethernet module that speaks i2c. |
| 06:28.06 | levi_ | So my first task is to hook the accelerometer up to a laptop or something and get it to output positional data that I can graph. |
| 06:30.16 | levi_ | Then I want to bypass the serial adc card and hook the accelerometer and the ethernet module both directly to the Xscale card (which has some ADCs of its own). Then I need to implement a command protocol for the primary brain to communicate with the accelerometer brain and the other parts of the robot. |
| 06:30.25 | levi_ | Lots of fun! |
| 06:30.33 | levi_ | Now I need to sleep. G'night! |
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| 12:37.35 | emcnabb | ~wake sjansen |
| 12:37.50 | ibot | sjansen: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 12:37.50 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 12:37.50 | sjansen | ~beat emcnabb |
| 12:37.53 | ibot | ACTION beats emcnabb with a wetfish |
| 12:38.03 | sjansen | ~kiss emcnabb |
| 12:38.06 | ibot | ACTION smooches emcnabb on the lips |
| 12:38.18 | sjansen | ~tell emnabb's wife on him |
| 12:38.33 | emcnabb | sjansen: who is emnabb? |
| 12:38.48 | sjansen | ~lart all *nabb |
| 12:39.45 | mheath | Heh. |
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| 12:43.40 | goozbach | good morning #utah |
| 12:46.50 | mheath | Is it? |
| 12:48.35 | goozbach | it is a good morning |
| 12:48.42 | goozbach | cause I've only got a half day at work. |
| 12:48.54 | goozbach | and I'm getting CABLE this afternoon |
| 12:48.54 | goozbach | YAY! |
| 13:12.32 | mheath | Thats what they tell you |
| 13:16.47 | ^Migs^ | my daughter was up at 2:30am last night screaming. She's been throwing up the past two days. My wife took her to the hospital or something. |
| 13:19.39 | mheath | 'or something'? :P |
| 13:20.22 | ^Migs^ | I don't know for sure. Maybe it was an after hours clinic. I was asleep. |
| 13:20.36 | ^Migs^ | I'm going to call in a few hours when they wake up. |
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| 13:50.17 | Jayce^ | ~kill -9 openclue spammers |
| 13:50.18 | ibot | ACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudophoton gun at -9 openclue spammers |
| 13:56.11 | Hhhhh | hello |
| 14:01.43 | goozbach | http://mindstorms.lego.com/Products/Default.aspx |
| 14:01.58 | goozbach | me wants one! |
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| 14:06.58 | elg | ~rlart |
| 14:07.04 | elg | noooo, more lizards! |
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| 14:23.16 | tensai | ~rlart |
| 14:23.30 | tensai | ibot: I object! |
| 14:23.31 | ibot | You object!? |
| 14:23.45 | tensai | ibot: yes, I object! |
| 14:23.47 | ibot | You object!? |
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| 14:28.30 | ^Migs^ | ibot: I don't object! |
| 14:28.31 | ibot | You don't object!? |
| 14:28.50 | ^Migs^ | ibot: I neither object nor don't object! |
| 14:28.51 | ibot | You neither object nor don't object!? |
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| 14:49.14 | tensai | ~give maquis an ssh key |
| 14:49.16 | ibot | ACTION gives an ssh key to maquis |
| 14:49.20 | maquis | tensai: sorry |
| 14:49.47 | tensai | maquis: just gotta take jabs when I can :) |
| 14:49.50 | maquis | :) |
| 14:50.14 | maquis | tensai: how's it going? |
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| 14:50.42 | tensai | maquis: busy, busy. gotta bring up a new mail server before the old one collapses |
| 14:50.54 | maquis | uh oh |
| 14:51.03 | tensai | a server in death throes is not a pretty picture |
| 14:51.18 | tensai | 2% disk free, load avg >40 |
| 14:51.43 | goozbach | maquis: ssh-keygen |
| 14:51.45 | goozbach | :) |
| 14:51.50 | maquis | goozbach: yeah... |
| 14:51.51 | maquis | :) |
| 14:52.22 | goozbach | ssh-keygen -t dsa |
| 14:52.32 | maquis | i'm doing it... |
| 14:52.44 | goozbach | git er done! |
| 14:53.24 | goozbach | up2date is such a kludge |
| 14:53.49 | goozbach | trying to populate a chroot install tree is MESSY! |
| 14:53.53 | goozbach | if not inpossible |
| 14:54.11 | tensai | you mean unpossible |
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| 14:55.45 | maquis | it wasn't things like using u instead of you |
| 14:56.11 | emcnabb | maquis: that's nothing |
| 14:56.14 | maquis | they were obviously trying to make intelligent arguments, but didn't know how to spell half the words they were trying to use |
| 14:56.18 | maquis | emcnabb: ?? |
| 14:56.27 | maquis | emcnabb: what's worse? |
| 14:56.36 | emcnabb | hold on |
| 14:56.40 | ^Migs^ | heh |
| 14:56.44 | ^Migs^ | have a link, maquis? |
| 14:56.59 | maquis | ^Migs^: let me see if i can find it again |
| 14:57.01 | maquis | i think it was on ars |
| 14:57.36 | ^Migs^ | it's one thing to be a bad speller, it's another thing to pretend like you're still good enough to carry on a coherent conversation |
| 14:59.12 | tensai | people immediately lose credibility with me by typing like that. seriously, how much longer does typing "you" take? maybe if you're on an sms phone, but we're not |
| 15:00.11 | maquis | hmmm |
| 15:01.10 | emcnabb | Here is a quote (took it from my gaim logs) that I had with a teenaged friend last week: "i keot it because i no bout ur planz next wek" |
| 15:01.25 | maquis | wow... |
| 15:01.38 | maquis | that took me a few times through to even *guess* what it's supposed to say |
| 15:01.49 | tensai | I'm still struggling with "keot" |
| 15:01.53 | goozbach | me too |
| 15:01.58 | goozbach | </aol> |
| 15:02.03 | maquis | i think keot is supposed to be "kept" |
| 15:03.16 | maquis | see... i hate aol-speak... but i see it as slightly different from people who are obviously trying to make a coherent point in a comment, making an argument in a debate, and just *can't* spell things (particularly when it's someone who claims to be an adult with kids) |
| 15:06.06 | elg | tensai: i tink u r jst pregidooce |
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| 15:06.17 | maquis | lol |
| 15:07.10 | Hhhhh | AOL sucks |
| 15:08.44 | emcnabb | ~lertt elg |
| 15:09.10 | maquis | it was the comments to this: http://news.com.com/MySpace+reaching+out+to+parents/2009-1041_3-6059679.html |
| 15:09.16 | brac | [MySpace reaching out to parents | CNET News.com] |
| 15:10.05 | maquis | there are some well-written comments, but there are some that just make me cringe |
| 15:10.58 | Hhhhh | "Teens were similarly complaining of parents meddling in their space on MySpace. "Now, not because I don't trust Myspace, but because I feel my prvacy (sic) has been invaded by my parents, my blogs will cease to be personal," one teen member wrote. "I feel I can no longer rant on here because I fear my parents are going to see it."" |
| 15:10.59 | dataw0lf | oh no, not more MySpace propaganda. |
| 15:11.02 | Hhhhh | what an imbecile |
| 15:11.16 | Hhhhh | that kid needs a whoopin' |
| 15:11.31 | elg | lol. as if his blogs were private before |
| 15:11.33 | dataw0lf | Hhhhh: because he or she values his privacy? |
| 15:11.46 | Hhhhh | yes |
| 15:11.50 | Hhhhh | exactly |
| 15:11.52 | dataw0lf | from his or her parents? |
| 15:11.55 | Hhhhh | right to the poi9nt |
| 15:11.58 | Hhhhh | exactly |
| 15:12.03 | elg | if they're worried about their parents seeing it now, just wait five years. then the worry really begins when you worry your employers might see it |
| 15:12.09 | Hhhhh | couldn't have put it better myself |
| 15:12.15 | maquis | i find it really annoying that some of these are people saying, in essence "sure, parents have a responsibility, but let's ignore that part. let's look at myspace's responsibility!" |
| 15:12.31 | dataw0lf | *shrug* I don't know about you, but I felt the same way when I was a kid. |
| 15:12.35 | dataw0lf | maquis: Totally agreed. |
| 15:13.01 | maquis | and if they want privacy, i don't think that a world-viewable website is the way to do that |
| 15:13.02 | elg | dataw0lf: of course, we all do |
| 15:13.10 | elg | er, did |
| 15:13.21 | Hhhhh | on one side you get IGDA and game developers saying parents need to get more involved as to not tamper with game developers' freedom of speech, and now we'll get ACLU et al. (TM) trying to get parents off the kids back |
| 15:13.22 | dataw0lf | I wasn't an imbecile, either. Part of being a teenager is having that separation from the parents. |
| 15:13.27 | Hhhhh | interesting |
| 15:13.38 | elg | but that doesn't change the logic about blogging on a public net and expecting privacy |
| 15:13.46 | Hhhhh | elg, bingo |
| 15:13.47 | Hhhhh | haha |
| 15:13.51 | dataw0lf | I don't think he or she meant about privacy |
| 15:13.53 | Hhhhh | Q.E.D. |
| 15:13.54 | dataw0lf | 'privacy from parents' |
| 15:13.56 | tensai | teenagers aren't well known for their logical capabilities |
| 15:14.00 | dataw0lf | not privacy from anyone. |
| 15:14.07 | elg | parents are a subset of anyone |
| 15:14.10 | Hhhhh | tensai, neither privacy advocates |
| 15:14.18 | dataw0lf | elg: which means they're not everyone. |
| 15:14.22 | ^Migs^ | is anyone really "known" for logical capabilities? |
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| 15:14.33 | elg | i didn't say they wanted privacy from anyone |
| 15:14.33 | emcnabb | tensai: that's what my parents pointed out when the officer drove me home one night |
| 15:14.36 | elg | er, everyone |
| 15:14.51 | dataw0lf | Before, the teens felt fairly certain that they wouldn't have their parents reading whatever they were posting. |
| 15:14.54 | elg | I don't know much about myspace but I just waltzed in the other day without needing to be a member or anything |
| 15:14.57 | dataw0lf | I mean, what parent is gonna be on myspace? |
| 15:15.02 | elg | did that recently change? |
| 15:15.12 | tensai | dataw0lf: responsible ones? |
| 15:15.21 | maquis | sounds like there's a story there :) |
| 15:15.34 | emcnabb | yes there is a story |
| 15:15.35 | ^Migs^ | is there really any legal reason why MySpace requires users of MySpace to be 14+ |
| 15:15.43 | emcnabb | but it's not too interesting |
| 15:15.43 | dataw0lf | tensai: I'm talking from a kids perspective. |
| 15:15.44 | ^Migs^ | or could they, theoretically, just allow anyone to use it |
| 15:15.44 | dataw0lf | But thanks. |
| 15:15.53 | maquis | emcnabb: there are very few uninteresting stories :) |
| 15:16.11 | tensai | dataw0lf: true. as a parent, it's a hard line to walk. give your kids freedom to be themselves, but don't let them run amok |
| 15:16.27 | dataw0lf | I, personally, wouldn't be stalking my kids' myspace profiles. |
| 15:16.29 | bonez39 | ping please, to fyrenice.com |
| 15:16.47 | bonez39 | maquis, it appears to be working now...thanks..... |
| 15:16.54 | maquis | bonez39: cool |
| 15:16.59 | elg | ^Migs^: yeah, it's illegal for kids under 14 to participate in bad web design |
| 15:17.06 | tensai | stalking, no. periodically reviewing, yes. depending on the trust level with the particular kid. |
| 15:17.06 | ^Migs^ | ahahahaha |
| 15:17.07 | elg | i've never seen anything uglier than myspace pages |
| 15:17.14 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 15:17.20 | ^Migs^ | they don't give you many tools for making them look nice, either |
| 15:17.24 | elg | ~ping fyrenice.com |
| 15:17.26 | ibot | pong fyrenice.com |
| 15:17.26 | dataw0lf | tensai: I think if you're doing that you're responding to a symptom of a larger problem. |
| 15:17.31 | elg | oh yeah, ibot lies |
| 15:17.38 | ^Migs^ | you have to hack the fields, and inject CSS stylesheets |
| 15:17.52 | ^Migs^ | I found a few old friends, though, on myspace |
| 15:17.57 | dataw0lf | so did I. |
| 15:18.02 | dataw0lf | I have a myspace profile *shrug* |
| 15:18.02 | ^Migs^ | it was nice |
| 15:18.09 | dataw0lf | people I haven't seen in 10 years. |
| 15:18.10 | ^Migs^ | ZOMG! ADD ME TO YOUR FRIENDS LIST!!!11111111111 |
| 15:18.11 | maquis | bonez39: i'm not hearing anything back on the pings |
| 15:18.14 | elg | dataw0lf: I'm sure I disagree. an open, trusting relationship involving reviewing what they do is healthy |
| 15:18.15 | tensai | dataw0lf: how is it different from reviewing what movies your kids watch, games they play, friends they hang out with? |
| 15:18.24 | ^Migs^ | what's nice about myspace is that you can "reunite" with old friends, but still maintain a safe distance from them |
| 15:18.47 | dataw0lf | tensai, elg: I might sit down and look at their myspace profile together. Maybe. |
| 15:18.53 | emcnabb | it was interesting to see how lots of my high school friends turned out |
| 15:18.58 | dataw0lf | Of course, I wouldn't be reviewing what movies my kids watch either. |
| 15:19.10 | dataw0lf | and games they play? |
| 15:19.19 | dataw0lf | We're talking about teenagers? |
| 15:19.26 | tensai | video games is what I'm thinking |
| 15:19.39 | dataw0lf | *shrug* I dunno, I was raised differently from you guys. |
| 15:19.58 | tensai | course, the games we played as teenagers was "chase trains", "run around the graveyard", "roll down the hill at the college" |
| 15:20.03 | elg | dataw0lf: I think that's what he meant, sitting down together |
| 15:20.11 | maquis | i've found that by telling my parents that i don't care if they look at what i'm doing online, they generally don't feel the need to... they were freaking out about how unsafe the internet was, so i just told them "i've got a website... here's the url... i don't care if you guys look at it -- it's public anyway" |
| 15:20.34 | maquis | they've looked at it once or twice, and those quick glances were enough for them to see that i'm not doing anything stupid on it |
| 15:20.37 | dataw0lf | elg: If my kid told me it was private, I'd probably respect that privacy. |
| 15:20.50 | dataw0lf | course, it all depends on the kid I guess. |
| 15:20.57 | ^Migs^ | some kids don't have a right to privacy |
| 15:21.16 | dataw0lf | I think all kids have a right to privacy, just some kids can abuse it. |
| 15:21.18 | ^Migs^ | reading these comments has made me lose faith in other peoples' parenting skills |
| 15:21.22 | elg | it's cliche, but I'd probably use the word privilege rather than right |
| 15:21.25 | elg | for kids, from parents |
| 15:21.28 | tensai | it does depend a lot, and if my kid wanted privacy about it and I trusted him or her, we could talk generics |
| 15:21.32 | dataw0lf | elg: not me. |
| 15:21.37 | elg | that's cool |
| 15:21.38 | dataw0lf | I really was raised differently. |
| 15:21.59 | dataw0lf | bbiab |
| 15:22.18 | ^Migs^ | I feel like adding a stupid comment to the posts |
| 15:22.22 | elg | I had plenty of privacy and trust from my parents. it just wasn't given for granted |
| 15:22.47 | emcnabb | elg: that's how I was raised too |
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| 15:23.08 | elg | if I had been a hellraiser I expect I would have had a lot less privacy and trust. kind of like society |
| 15:23.30 | maquis | if i knew that my kid was getting into trouble in other ways, i'd be worried about what they have on their myspace too... but if they're generally doing fine, and i know they're not stupid, and suc, then i'd probably want to just get them to show it to me once or twice so that i can get an idea of what they're using it for, but generally, i'd be willing to trust them, i'm guessing |
| 15:23.43 | tensai | kids are going to make mistakes no matter what the parent does. their job is to catch them when the fall, lessen the blow and help them see where they went wrong so their next mistake isn't 10x worse |
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| 15:24.39 | maquis | my parents have generally been pretty open with letting me do my own thing, so long as i've been pretty responsible... |
| 15:25.17 | maquis | if they felt that i was getting into trouble, they'd probably crack down a bit more, but as long as i haven't done anything to make them question my responsibility, they haven't seen too much need to invade my space |
| 15:26.00 | tensai | while I don't ask my parents for permission any more, I still regularly ask them for advice because I saw that generally they were smarter than I |
| 15:26.07 | maquis | :) |
| 15:26.09 | dataw0lf | I'm just from a different culture, and my parents were realistic. |
| 15:26.48 | dataw0lf | the majority of kids drank at my high school, my parents drank when they were in high school, but they made sure I knew not to drive drunk or act dangerously irresponsible. |
| 15:26.55 | ^Migs^ | yeah, my parents were awesome at raising me, too |
| 15:27.36 | dataw0lf | as long as I maintained a 4.0 and participated in extra curricular activities, and was healthy emotionally, my parents let me do alot of things. |
| 15:27.46 | ^Migs^ | right, maquis. Getting rid of their participation in a trend does not address the real problem. |
| 15:27.52 | dataw0lf | I just had a pretty open relationship with my parents. |
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| 15:28.33 | maquis | ^Migs^: well... even with that.... it's not even getting rid of their participation |
| 15:28.34 | ^Migs^ | but the instance your grades dipped to 3.9, BAM! OUT comes the whips. |
| 15:28.55 | tensai | is ethereal the new security whipping boy? |
| 15:28.59 | ^Migs^ | http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20060502/i/r2048252209.jpg |
| 15:29.18 | maquis | unless i'm mistaken and somehow myspace is able to prevent people from creating multiple accounts.... |
| 15:29.37 | ^Migs^ | by tracking IP addresses? I doubt it. |
| 15:29.42 | maquis | :) |
| 15:29.51 | elg | so I'm still confused, was myspace members-only before and now it's public, is that what's up? |
| 15:30.00 | tensai | maquis: if they've solved that problem, I have a few np-complete problems to sell them |
| 15:30.10 | maquis | tensai: yeah... :) |
| 15:30.22 | ^Migs^ | I don't know. It seems like I made a myspace account about 5 years ago. |
| 15:30.30 | ^Migs^ | it burst into popularity overnight |
| 15:30.57 | tensai | elg: I think the deal is somebody noticed and started making a stink |
| 15:30.58 | maquis | so, in essence, deleting an account means that you're deleting an account you know they have, where you know their username... so that they can go create a new account, without your knowledge, where you won't know the username... |
| 15:31.06 | dataw0lf | it's been popular for a long while, at least in the underground scene. |
| 15:31.23 | ^Migs^ | you can search by their real name |
| 15:31.34 | elg | it's plenty popular here, all the undergrads seem to be into it |
| 15:31.36 | maquis | ^Migs^: true... |
| 15:31.36 | ^Migs^ | if they give it, of course |
| 15:31.41 | maquis | elg: my roommates too |
| 15:31.48 | ^Migs^ | there's not much point to having a myspace account if you don't use your real name so people can find you |
| 15:31.54 | ^Migs^ | I guess |
| 15:32.06 | maquis | the things they talk about finding there have convinced me that there's nothing i'm interested in there |
| 15:32.10 | ^Migs^ | I don't claim to know how a rebellious young teenager would think |
| 15:32.19 | ^Migs^ | meh |
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| 15:32.36 | ^Migs^ | like I said, I found some old friends I have no intention of really seeing again in person (except one maybe). I'm done. |
| 15:32.45 | QBFreak | hmm, someone seems to have declared war on spammers and actually ended up with one... |
| 15:33.02 | elg | hehe |
| 15:33.08 | elg | well put QBFreak |
| 15:33.36 | elg | let's cheer them on. if someone wants to fight spammers at their own game, it will be entertaining |
| 15:33.47 | elg | a waste of energy imho, but entertaining nonetheless |
| 15:34.38 | ^Migs^ | is there a web site where you can add someone to a whole bunch of spam lists? |
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| 15:35.09 | ^Migs^ | and the provide a disclaimer that it's for "testing spam filters" |
| 15:35.20 | ^Migs^ | *they |
| 15:35.21 | ^Migs^ | *then |
| 15:35.22 | ^Migs^ | whatever |
| 15:35.30 | ^Migs^ | s/the// |
| 15:36.29 | QBFreak | or not, I assumed because AIM and ICQ couldn't find the server it was just AOL, seems to be all my accounts |
| 15:36.30 | QBFreak | this is what happens when you run windows... |
| 15:36.53 | QBFreak | elg: heh |
| 15:38.40 | levi | I have a Friendster account and a... whatever that Google one was, and a LiveJournal, but no MySpace. |
| 15:38.44 | dataw0lf | heh |
| 15:38.49 | dataw0lf | I have a myspace account |
| 15:38.52 | dataw0lf | and a hot or not account |
| 15:38.55 | dataw0lf | >_> |
| 15:38.56 | dataw0lf | <_< |
| 15:38.57 | bonez39 | has anyone else encountered trouble with myspace on firefox? |
| 15:39.01 | levi | All the ones I have sit pretty dormant, so I see no reason to try another one. |
| 15:39.05 | dataw0lf | bonez39: yea, especially on Linux. |
| 15:39.17 | dataw0lf | and especially on amd64 Linux |
| 15:39.23 | dataw0lf | but that's firefox in general. |
| 15:39.24 | levi | dataw0lf: So, do the intarnetz think you are hot? |
| 15:39.29 | ^Migs^ | what's your rank on hotornot? |
| 15:39.36 | dataw0lf | 9.3, I believe. |
| 15:39.38 | dataw0lf | :D |
| 15:39.48 | ^Migs^ | zomg |
| 15:39.49 | elg | levi: the google one is orkut. aka the brazilian myspace |
| 15:39.52 | ^Migs^ | show us |
| 15:39.59 | levi | elg: Ahh, yeah. |
| 15:40.04 | dataw0lf | oh, 9.1 |
| 15:40.14 | ^Migs^ | 9.1 is still good |
| 15:40.16 | elg | I get occasional "so and so brazilian dude/chick has added you as a friend" |
| 15:40.17 | levi | elg: It's so bizarre how it got totally taken over by Brazilians. |
| 15:40.22 | dataw0lf | http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=BYHRS8E&key=EYG |
| 15:40.23 | brac | [HOT or NOT] |
| 15:40.38 | dataw0lf | I look like an emo with that hair. |
| 15:40.40 | ^Migs^ | oh yeah, you're definitely 9+ |
| 15:40.55 | dataw0lf | ... |
| 15:40.57 | ^Migs^ | haha |
| 15:40.58 | levi | dataw0lf: Dude. You do. |
| 15:41.18 | dataw0lf | levi: I know. I put it on there as a joke because I looked so emo. |
| 15:41.32 | dataw0lf | apparently the metrosexuals that use hotornot like it. |
| 15:42.28 | dataw0lf | http://dataw0lf.phonese.cx/comments.php?1846 Now there's real hotness. |
| 15:42.31 | brac | [phonese.cx] |
| 15:42.35 | dataw0lf | You can't tell me that that hat isn't the sweetest thing ever. |
| 15:49.31 | phinux | datawolf: seems you've stunned #utah into silence. |
| 15:49.50 | dataw0lf | phinux: the hat has that effect. |
| 15:50.04 | dataw0lf | it's like a thunderbolt from the heavens. |
| 15:50.16 | dataw0lf | I just need to find a feather.... |
| 15:50.40 | phinux | Or a sherlock holms cape to go with it. Mysterious. |
| 15:50.48 | dataw0lf | oooh, good idea. |
| 15:51.00 | dataw0lf | that hat does need a pipe, eh? |
| 15:51.20 | phinux | Quite. |
| 15:52.08 | dataw0lf | another OT Ashdown thread on PLUG. I guess it's that time of the month. |
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| 15:57.50 | goozbach | blargfooblarg |
| 15:57.57 | goozbach | I should have never found notmydesk.com |
| 15:58.01 | goozbach | I haven' |
| 15:58.07 | goozbach | t gotten much done since then |
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| 16:14.18 | lars-ut | <cough> |
| 16:15.21 | lars-ut | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempura |
| 16:16.53 | lars-ut | dataw0lf, Is that enough to lure you away from your desk around 8pm? |
| 16:18.40 | Jayce^ | mm, tempura |
| 16:26.22 | lars-ut | I see. Well, perhaps one of THESE [pulls out donut] would refresh your memory, eh? |
| 16:28.28 | lars-ut | "Yeah! Get him a donut--jelly, he likes jelly. Jelly donut coming!" |
| 16:29.10 | lars-ut | http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/s/strange-brew-script.html |
| 16:29.12 | brac | [Strange Brew Script- Beer Movie] |
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| 16:30.34 | dataw0lf | lars-ut: y'know what, tonight's a nogo, it's my jr sys admin's birthday and I've been invited to crab, steak, and shrimp for dinner at his parents' place. |
| 16:31.05 | lars-ut | no contest. |
| 16:31.20 | maquis | dataw0lf: real seafood? |
| 16:31.29 | dataw0lf | lars-ut: I talked to jared the other day about giving it to him and having him give it to you |
| 16:31.36 | dataw0lf | but I was disconnected in the middle of the conversation |
| 16:31.39 | dataw0lf | maquis: yup |
| 16:31.43 | lars-ut | don't know why I brought up donuts other than "Strange Brew" quotes were in my head |
| 16:31.50 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 16:32.02 | lars-ut | dataw0lf: do that - I'll see Jared tomorrow |
| 16:32.17 | dataw0lf | ok |
| 16:32.20 | dataw0lf | jsmith: you around? |
| 16:32.27 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Bring it to me, and I'll even give you the money and Lars can pay me back |
| 16:32.43 | Jayce^ | mmm, pikes place |
| 16:32.53 | lars-ut | jsmith: I'll bring the money to lunch tomorrow |
| 16:32.56 | Jayce^ | although, to most seattle folk, pikes place is still somewhat older :) |
| 16:32.57 | maquis | or order it from amazon |
| 16:32.57 | maquis | they have some of the good stuff there |
| 16:33.15 | lars-ut | link? |
| 16:33.18 | dataw0lf | jsmith: ok, let me get back to you on when exactly I can leave to come to your place. |
| 16:33.27 | dataw0lf | I might have to go up in an airplane for a couple hours today |
| 16:33.29 | dataw0lf | poor me |
| 16:33.30 | dataw0lf | :) |
| 16:33.30 | maquis | Jayce^: :) |
| 16:33.40 | dataw0lf | Pikes Place rocks |
| 16:33.50 | dataw0lf | right near the ferries? |
| 16:34.15 | dataw0lf | that whole area is so cool. |
| 16:34.20 | Jayce^ | pretty close |
| 16:34.31 | Jayce^ | Ye Olde Curiosity Shop |
| 16:34.35 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Just fly over and parachute it out... |
| 16:35.00 | dataw0lf | jsmith: Ha. I haven't jumped out of a plane in months.... |
| 16:35.03 | dataw0lf | I'd probably miss. |
| 16:35.25 | jsmith | dataw0lf: No, just parachute the goods... |
| 16:35.27 | dataw0lf | 'there goes dataw0lf, right into the wells fargo building' |
| 16:35.32 | dataw0lf | ooh |
| 16:35.35 | maquis | thought about it while i was at the airport... but the little "made in washington" store there was really overpriced |
| 16:35.53 | dataw0lf | it's seagate, it can take it. |
| 16:36.50 | maquis | Jayce^: anthony's (mmmm) or ivars (at the mukilteo ferry dock) |
| 16:37.07 | Jayce^ | bah, mukilteo freaks :) it's all about the Coleman Dock |
| 16:37.30 | Jayce^ | hop on over to Bainbridge, drive past the Granola's, and head to Sluys Bakery :) |
| 16:37.43 | dataw0lf | go to Bremerton |
| 16:37.46 | Jayce^ | ugh |
| 16:37.52 | Jayce^ | avoid bremerton |
| 16:38.02 | dataw0lf | hey! one of my best friends lives there. |
| 16:38.04 | Jayce^ | the armpit of Kitsap |
| 16:38.08 | maquis | heyyhey! :) |
| 16:38.10 | Jayce^ | well, Gorst is |
| 16:38.12 | maquis | erm |
| 16:38.15 | maquis | stupid connection |
| 16:38.16 | Jayce^ | but that's almost bremerton |
| 16:38.21 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf, Navy? |
| 16:38.27 | lars-ut | yeah, there's this great place on hilltop too.. |
| 16:38.29 | maquis | there's nothin wrong with mukilteo :) |
| 16:38.30 | dataw0lf | Jayce^: yup |
| 16:38.43 | Jayce^ | PSNS, Keyport, or Bangor? |
| 16:38.48 | dataw0lf | PSNS |
| 16:39.02 | Jayce^ | ah... Mothball or carrier.. (or coast guard) |
| 16:39.06 | Jayce^ | that's my hometown |
| 16:39.26 | dataw0lf | carrier, he's active |
| 16:39.28 | Jayce^ | dad was at Bangor for a whil |
| 16:39.30 | Jayce^ | while |
| 16:39.32 | Jayce^ | Nimitz? |
| 16:39.37 | Jayce^ | or did they switch it? |
| 16:39.47 | dataw0lf | unsure |
| 16:39.52 | dataw0lf | Vinson, maybe? |
| 16:39.57 | Jayce^ | thought they were moving Nimitz to Everett |
| 16:40.02 | Jayce^ | could be |
| 16:40.43 | Jayce^ | out of those bases, Bangor is definately the nicest |
| 16:41.02 | Jayce^ | Bremerton (although getting better) used to just be all old dumpy houses left over from the WWII boom |
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| 16:41.31 | Jayce^ | hehe... Bremelo! (See who get's that joke) |
| 16:41.49 | *** join/#utah Hhhhh (n=Hhhhh@158.91.201.220) |
| 16:42.06 | maquis | Jayce^: they have the abe lincoln in everett |
| 16:42.13 | Jayce^ | ah |
| 16:42.21 | maquis | it's a nimitz-class carrier... |
| 16:42.23 | maquis | beauty |
| 16:42.28 | maquis | my dad can see it from his office |
| 16:42.30 | lars-ut | eh. |
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| 16:42.46 | Jayce^ | hehe http://www.lyrics007.com/Sir%20Mix-A-Lot%20Lyrics/Bremelo%20Lyrics.html |
| 16:42.50 | vontrapp | ooh, i wanna see |
| 16:42.52 | Jayce^ | good old SWASS |
| 16:42.58 | lars-ut | like me? |
| 16:43.15 | lars-ut | sift the flour, roll the dough... |
| 16:43.23 | lars-ut | wrong track |
| 16:43.24 | Jayce^ | lars-ut, ++ |
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| 16:43.34 | dataw0lf | ugh, stupid tape library acting up |
| 16:43.35 | maquis | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=everett+wa&ll=47.981498,-122.228866&spn=0.00209,0.005558&t=k&om=1 |
| 16:43.59 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Which kind? |
| 16:44.01 | lars-ut | nice imagery maquis |
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| 16:44.06 | dataw0lf | Jayce^: yea, my buddy was a SEAL but he almost got decapitated during HALO recert and lost hearing in his right ear, so he's some sort of nav petty officer now. |
| 16:44.14 | maquis | lars-ut: yup... wish i could take credit for it :) |
| 16:44.23 | dataw0lf | jsmith: StorageTek |
| 16:44.28 | maquis | back home we have some pics of it coming into port |
| 16:44.44 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Have you tried the SpectraLogic libraries? They're nice... |
| 16:44.48 | dataw0lf | jsmith: L180, 140 |
| 16:45.12 | dataw0lf | jsmith: Nope, I've seen em in the action but haven't played with em |
| 16:45.27 | maquis | something in my room just started beeping |
| 16:45.30 | maquis | and then stopped again |
| 16:45.34 | dataw0lf | BOMB! |
| 16:45.36 | dataw0lf | evacuate maquis! |
| 16:45.37 | maquis | but i haven't the slightest idea what it is |
| 16:45.41 | lars-ut | fire in the hole? |
| 16:45.47 | jsmith | Cell phone? |
| 16:45.53 | jsmith | Tamagatchi? |
| 16:46.00 | jsmith | Alarm clock? |
| 16:46.01 | dataw0lf | ha |
| 16:46.03 | lars-ut | maquis, did you activate the thermite plates again? |
| 16:46.07 | jsmith | Cordless phone running out of batteries? |
| 16:46.08 | maquis | it's not my cell phone... i don't have a tamagatchi... i don't have an alarm clock... |
| 16:46.19 | jsmith | Smoke alarm battery? |
| 16:46.19 | maquis | .we don't have a phone in the apartmen aside from cell phones |
| 16:46.26 | dataw0lf | one of those aliens from Batteries Not Included? |
| 16:46.31 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Exactly! |
| 16:46.36 | dataw0lf | Knew it! |
| 16:46.36 | maquis | haha |
| 16:47.35 | ^Migs^ | oo me too |
| 16:47.50 | dataw0lf | 'I think we got elves' |
| 16:51.31 | dataw0lf | I hate to see what failure looks like... |
| 16:51.36 | dataw0lf | time to go flying, bbl |
| 16:51.53 | obfuscated | cool stuff coming up for LDSOSS for those involved... |
| 16:52.18 | jsmith | obfuscated: Cool... what cool stuff? |
| 16:52.38 | ^Migs^ | LDSOSS? |
| 16:52.40 | obfuscated | well, can't say yet - I'll let the group know when it's organized |
| 16:52.58 | maquis | obfuscated: cool! |
| 16:52.59 | obfuscated | ^Migs^: it's a group of LDS open source developers |
| 16:53.11 | maquis | obfuscated: my dad joined the list so he can try out some of the cool stuff |
| 16:53.27 | obfuscated | wish I could give some hints - well, it involves a lot of developers getting together |
| 16:53.27 | maquis | most of it confuses him, but he's at least trying it out |
| 16:53.44 | obfuscated | yeah - it's good for even the non-programmer |
| 16:53.57 | maquis | yeah |
| 16:54.06 | obfuscated | I think it's introduced a lot of church members to OSS that didn't know about it before |
| 16:54.07 | goozbach | blargfooblarg |
| 16:54.16 | goozbach | time to go home and wait for comcast to call me |
| 16:54.23 | goozbach | cable++ |
| 16:54.28 | goozbach | HD cable++ |
| 16:54.30 | maquis | he kinda-sorta understands how oss works, and recognizes that a lot of the stuff will still be somewhat buggy on occasion |
| 16:54.33 | maquis | goozbach: cool :) |
| 16:54.35 | goozbach | internet++ |
| 16:54.41 | maquis | but he's willing to try it out and see what's useful |
| 16:54.50 | goozbach | did I post my pics here? |
| 16:54.55 | obfuscated | maquis: we get a lot of clerks on there looking for good tips |
| 16:55.15 | maquis | obfuscated: yeah... my dad's a bishop, but he's pretty interested in seeing what's out there |
| 16:55.37 | obfuscated | lars-ut: you should - we're up to 150 or so members now |
| 16:55.47 | maquis | once i've got a bit more free time, i'd be interested in jumping in on some projects that can help out but don't require access to MLS/MIS/any other church records :) |
| 16:56.09 | lars-ut | http://lists.ldsoss.org/mailman/listinfo/ldsoss |
| 16:56.25 | obfuscated | maquis: those are my favorite types ;-) |
| 16:56.30 | lars-ut | obfuscated: just did. |
| 16:56.35 | obfuscated | lars-ut: awesome |
| 16:56.41 | maquis | i was the ward webmaster for a couple months in one of my student wards |
| 16:56.50 | obfuscated | I'm trying to come up with some more ways of expanding the reach of the group as well |
| 16:57.06 | maquis | it was actually rather frustrating... couldn't get people to sign up, and when people did sign up, most tasks seemed to take much more work than they should've |
| 16:57.39 | obfuscated | maquis: I had the same issues when I was ward webmaster |
| 16:57.43 | obfuscated | it got better over time thoguh |
| 16:57.45 | obfuscated | though |
| 16:57.49 | maquis | we had a "training meeting" for our stake's ward webmasters... and all the guys looked at me weird |
| 16:58.14 | obfuscated | I'm frustrated in my current ward because we don't have a ward webmaster |
| 16:58.15 | maquis | (even weirder when i commented that it was possible to use <b> tags and such in announcements) |
| 16:58.21 | obfuscated | I could totally use it as WML |
| 16:59.50 | obfuscated | I'm sure all the non-LDS here are thinking we're all weird, talking about religion and OSS mixed ;-) |
| 17:00.04 | maquis | nah... they're probably used to it by now :) |
| 17:00.13 | obfuscated | yeah - this is #utah after all |
| 17:00.19 | maquis | :) |
| 17:01.00 | ^Migs^ | I've never even heard of a ward webmaster |
| 17:01.06 | ^Migs^ | I wouldn't mind that calling, though |
| 17:01.23 | maquis | tis ok... i wouldn't mind having it again... |
| 17:01.24 | dataw0lf | argh gotta wait 30 minutes before we can take off |
| 17:01.24 | ^Migs^ | usually I get called to be an organist or pianist |
| 17:01.32 | ^Migs^ | ward "computer guy" |
| 17:01.37 | maquis | haha |
| 17:01.39 | obfuscated | ^Migs^: yeah - it's a lot of stress though, trying to get all ward members on board |
| 17:01.59 | ^Migs^ | so the ward would have a web site? What would be on it? |
| 17:01.59 | maquis | i'd like to do it in a ward where people are already signed up for the website |
| 17:02.00 | obfuscated | plus it's *very* regulated in what you can do with it |
| 17:02.10 | maquis | ^Migs^: it's a lds.org website |
| 17:02.13 | ^Migs^ | ah |
| 17:02.17 | dataw0lf | how does it work in wards? do people just volunteer for these positions? |
| 17:02.18 | obfuscated | ^Migs^: go to lds.org and click on "Stake and Ward Websites" |
| 17:02.19 | ^Migs^ | okay I see |
| 17:02.48 | maquis | so, you don't get a ton of freedom |
| 17:02.56 | maquis | stuff like <font> tags work, iirc |
| 17:02.59 | obfuscated | dataw0lf: the ward Bishop "calls" you to the position. He prays and receives inspiration as to whom to call to these positions |
| 17:03.12 | obfuscated | but yes, once called, we volunteer |
| 17:03.28 | ^Migs^ | whoa, my dentist is the bishop in my old ward |
| 17:03.36 | dataw0lf | ah. gotcha. |
| 17:04.27 | dataw0lf | obfuscated: what if a bishop calls you into something you don't want to do? |
| 17:04.34 | dataw0lf | or does that not happen very often. |
| 17:04.43 | lars-ut | dang. no tempura tonight - banana splits only. |
| 17:05.43 | maquis | dataw0lf: you can turn it down, but a lot of people accept regardless |
| 17:05.45 | dataw0lf | lars-ut: banana split sounds nice. |
| 17:05.46 | obfuscated | dataw0lf: that happens all the time. If you truly believe in something though, you want to do what the Lord wants you to do. If the calling comes from the Lord, I'll do it. |
| 17:05.46 | dataw0lf | maquis: regardless of whether or not they like it? |
| 17:05.46 | emcnabb | my wife and I are Sunbeam teachers (they're the kids who are 3 years old) |
| 17:05.46 | lars-ut | dataw0lf: yeah, but you'll be stuffin' yer face with crab, shrimp, and steak |
| 17:05.46 | obfuscated | emcnabb: that's a fun calling |
| 17:05.47 | emcnabb | I didn't expect to get that calling, but it has been a lot of fun |
| 17:05.49 | maquis | dataw0lf: yeah... we believe that the calling comes from God, not the bishop |
| 17:05.49 | dataw0lf | obfuscated: I guess that's true. |
| 17:05.53 | emcnabb | they say the funniest things |
| 17:05.55 | ^Migs^ | so what exactly can you do on the ward web sites? |
| 17:05.55 | dataw0lf | maquis: I see. |
| 17:06.01 | maquis | emcnabb: that sounds like a *really* fun calling! :) |
| 17:06.20 | obfuscated | I will always remember the little 5 year olds I taught in VA |
| 17:06.22 | maquis | ^Migs^: make announcements, add events, etc |
| 17:06.35 | ^Migs^ | cool |
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| 17:06.58 | emcnabb | one kid is a total crybaby, and he wasn't being bad one day, so his dad came in, sat with him, an started wispering into his ear. A few seconds later he shouted at the top of his lungs... "BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE A GOOD BOY!" |
| 17:07.06 | ^Migs^ | I've had to turn down a few callings, too. They wanted me to be a pianist right when I was about to go in for eye surgery. My vision still isn't good enough to read music. |
| 17:07.08 | emcnabb | and he WAS being bad |
| 17:07.08 | obfuscated | ^Migs^: no need for a ward bulletin if everyone truly uses the Ward Website |
| 17:07.32 | obfuscated | emcnabb: lol |
| 17:07.36 | maquis | ^Migs^: yeah... that's a good situation to turn it down... anytime that it's just not practical |
| 17:07.47 | dataw0lf | ... |
| 17:08.00 | sjansen | ,,, |
| 17:08.04 | emcnabb | --- |
| 17:08.14 | lars-ut | dataw0lf: I've got it. Drag your crab/shrimp/steak-stuffed carcass down to Utah County after your dinner tonight & have a banana split |
| 17:08.26 | dataw0lf | lars-ut: y'know, i might be able to do that. |
| 17:08.36 | dataw0lf | lemme see what's going on. |
| 17:08.36 | obfuscated | I always ask the Bishop if he really prayed about it, and inform him of my situation - sometimes the Bishop doesn't pray about the calling, but that's rare |
| 17:08.55 | dataw0lf | you ask the bishop if he really prayed about it? |
| 17:08.55 | ^Migs^ | I think it's a combination of inspiration and where they need someone. |
| 17:09.00 | maquis | dataw0lf: even better idea: give me the shrimp, then go have a banana split |
| 17:09.01 | ^Migs^ | that's a weird thing to ask the bishop |
| 17:09.04 | dataw0lf | lars-ut: we might be drinking tonight after the dinner. |
| 17:09.16 | lars-ut | dataw0lf: stay safe then |
| 17:09.37 | dataw0lf | lars-ut: if we end up not doing so I'll drag my buddy over to game night. |
| 17:09.40 | obfuscated | dataw0lf: well, Christ was the only perfect person on this earth, so even Bishops make mistakes some times. I think it's rare though when it's in regards to their position as Bishop. |
| 17:09.43 | dataw0lf | but it's up to him, it's his birthday. |
| 17:09.49 | lars-ut | dataw0lf: sounds good |
| 17:10.13 | dataw0lf | obfuscated: Well, I don't want to get into a theological discussion about the perfection of Christ, so I'll take your word for it. |
| 17:10.20 | dataw0lf | but gotcha, I understand. |
| 17:10.21 | ^Migs^ | heh |
| 17:10.37 | obfuscated | dataw0lf: yeah - that's an entire other discussion :-) |
| 17:10.48 | dataw0lf | true that. :) |
| 17:11.13 | sjansen | ~strangelove emcnabb |
| 17:11.14 | ibot | ACTION destroys half the channel just to get rid of emcnabb |
| 17:11.19 | obfuscated | I only ask if I truly question the practicality of the calling. I haven't done it much. |
| 17:11.23 | dataw0lf | I definitely see what you're saying, although it'd make me uncomfortable to have to ask a spiritual mouthpiece for God if he really prayed about something. |
| 17:11.34 | ^Migs^ | IAW dataw0lf |
| 17:11.39 | dataw0lf | might end up taking it the wrong way. |
| 17:11.56 | maquis | nah... generally they will take it pretty well |
| 17:12.02 | ^Migs^ | well, it's one thing to ask about the practicality, it's another to question the spiritual integrity of the one giving the calling |
| 17:12.17 | RyanE_ | dataw0lf: most would not take it the wrong way, as they've also been called to be bishop, and are a lay clergy. |
| 17:12.21 | dataw0lf | I'm not into organized religion so I don't have much of a view. |
| 17:12.22 | obfuscated | ^Migs^: exactly |
| 17:12.26 | ^Migs^ | I think the latter may reflect on the own spirituality of the called rather than the caller |
| 17:12.32 | obfuscated | I still respect the Bishop's decision in the end |
| 17:12.52 | dataw0lf | obfuscated: so whether or not they pray on it you take the calling? |
| 17:13.32 | obfuscated | dataw0lf: I believe that person was called of God, and therefore I have to respect God's chosen. It will all be worked out in the end. |
| 17:13.33 | maquis | generally, if i have been extended a calling that i don't think i can handle given certain circumstances, i'll just tell the bishop what the circumstances are, and then we'll talk about it, and possibly pray about it, and then we can make a decision taking that into account |
| 17:13.39 | RyanE | dataw0lf: I think they can and should use their intellect before praying about their decisions. |
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| 17:13.51 | obfuscated | I haven't ever had that happen though |
| 17:13.58 | dataw0lf | cool |
| 17:14.03 | dataw0lf | I can dig it. |
| 17:14.34 | RyanE | it's not like spiritual darts: Let's see who should be ward webmaster... Hmmm... the 80yo computer-phobic grannie! |
| 17:14.45 | obfuscated | RyanE: lol |
| 17:15.12 | dataw0lf | RyanE: I wasn't inferring that. |
| 17:15.28 | dataw0lf | there's obviously going to be people who don't agree with the choice of the calling though. |
| 17:15.31 | RyanE | oh, I didn't think you were, I just like being a smart-aleck. |
| 17:15.32 | tensai | maquis: I hope somebody planted one of these. http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/79be/ |
| 17:15.34 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: Mind Molester] |
| 17:15.37 | dataw0lf | I was just wondering what happened in those cases. |
| 17:15.46 | sjansen | I have seen spiritual leaders who were obviously not qualified to be recieving inspiration make decisions that turned out to be good. The whole free will and allowing bad things to habit for the condemnation of the wicked while still being able to turn it into something good thing in the end thing. And that's all I'm goint to say about that. |
| 17:15.47 | maquis | tensai: that's what i was wondering while looking for the source |
| 17:16.04 | obfuscated | dataw0lf: they are welcome to decline - that's why it's important to know what you believe so you can know if that person is called of God or not |
| 17:16.06 | RyanE | sjansen: that's a mouthful. |
| 17:16.29 | dataw0lf | obfuscated: gotcha. |
| 17:16.40 | dataw0lf | I for one know what _I_ believe in. |
| 17:16.43 | dataw0lf | crab and steak for dinner! |
| 17:16.45 | dataw0lf | woohoo! |
| 17:16.51 | obfuscated | oh yeah - I believe in that too ;-) |
| 17:16.53 | dataw0lf | :) |
| 17:17.33 | sjansen | At least we can all agree that Linux is the One True Operating System(tm) and that anyone who uses something different is a Very Bad Person(tm). |
| 17:17.51 | maquis | ~burn QBFreak |
| 17:17.52 | ibot | ibot pours gasoline all over QBFreak, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 17:17.52 | dataw0lf | sjansen: Debian Uber Alles! |
| 17:18.14 | QBFreak | but I'm only here to write a windows app, then I go back to Fedora where I feel less lost |
| 17:19.33 | obfuscated | Fedora can beat Debian in a race any day! |
| 17:20.04 | maquis | fbsd! |
| 17:20.24 | obfuscated | I'm waiting for the Gentoo |
| 17:20.28 | QBFreak | uh, freedos! ...or not |
| 17:20.41 | dataw0lf | btdownloadcurses --max_upload_rate 0 the.sopranos.608.hr.hdtv.ac3.5.1.torrent |
| 17:20.44 | dataw0lf | ack |
| 17:20.46 | dataw0lf | oops |
| 17:20.51 | QBFreak | tsk tsk |
| 17:20.59 | QBFreak | stealing from the mafia are we? |
| 17:21.02 | obfuscated | lol |
| 17:21.03 | dataw0lf | >_> |
| 17:21.15 | obfuscated | azureus all the way! |
| 17:21.22 | dataw0lf | psh |
| 17:21.27 | dataw0lf | utorrent and command line |
| 17:21.39 | QBFreak | cheese! |
| 17:21.40 | obfuscated | does utorrent take rss feeds? |
| 17:22.18 | dataw0lf | yup |
| 17:22.21 | dataw0lf | and it's tiny |
| 17:22.25 | dataw0lf | not some bloated java application |
| 17:22.53 | dataw0lf | but it's really all about the commandline and screen combo |
| 17:23.21 | dataw0lf | I'm working on a server / client pair that will tunnel torrent traffic inside of DNS |
| 17:23.32 | dataw0lf | now that'll be something. |
| 17:23.36 | obfuscated | cool - need to check out utorrent |
| 17:23.43 | obfuscated | I read a good article on it awhile back |
| 17:23.50 | obfuscated | dataw0lf: that will be interesting |
| 17:23.55 | dataw0lf | it's really nice, definitely my fave GUI torrent tool |
| 17:24.14 | dataw0lf | obfuscated: yup. I have ICMP and DNS tunnelling for IRC. |
| 17:24.35 | dataw0lf | I'm just working on the server torrent handler for the DNS tunnelling client |
| 17:24.56 | dataw0lf | IRC + other various networking shenanigans. |
| 17:25.29 | obfuscated | I use ssh and irssi - works nice with screen |
| 17:25.32 | levi | DNS tunneling? |
| 17:25.37 | QBFreak | obfuscated: same |
| 17:25.50 | lars-ut | http://utorrent.com/ |
| 17:25.51 | brac | [µTorrent - The lightweight and efficient BitTorrent client] |
| 17:25.54 | obfuscated | yeah - I'm getting frustrated w/ Azureus |
| 17:26.01 | lars-ut | piggish |
| 17:26.24 | dataw0lf | levi: yeah. |
| 17:26.31 | QBFreak | brac: you don't strip out the ones you don't understand? |
| 17:26.31 | brac | who knows? |
| 17:26.34 | dataw0lf | If Kaminsky can tunnel video inside of DNS, I can tunnel torrent. |
| 17:26.49 | dataw0lf | torrents |
| 17:27.21 | lars-ut | I usually end up using an alternate port, as 6881 is often blacklisted |
| 17:27.59 | obfuscated | does comcast throttle torrent? |
| 17:28.05 | lars-ut | no |
| 17:28.10 | obfuscated | cool |
| 17:28.35 | dataw0lf | yea, it really isn't for torrenting past any / all filters, just to sharpen my tunnelling app up |
| 17:28.45 | lars-ut | obfuscated: I run my vonage & torrents on comcast at home |
| 17:29.43 | lars-ut | then I copy them to my little Vantec Avox Juke box for playback |
| 17:29.46 | obfuscated | lars-ut: I find vonage gets messed up when I do that |
| 17:29.56 | obfuscated | I need better qos on my router I think |
| 17:30.18 | dataw0lf | alright I'll bbl guys, gotta unplug my laptop and fly the friendly skies |
| 17:30.21 | lars-ut | obfuscated: concurrently yes - the new version of pfSense is supposed to take care of that, but I haven't tried it yet |
| 17:30.48 | obfuscated | interesting |
| 17:31.00 | lars-ut | lars-ut: I had problems with the older versions of pfSense re: traffic shaping, but they're on beta 3 now |
| 17:31.19 | lars-ut | I just corresponded with a fellow that say's vonage/torrents work great |
| 17:32.43 | lars-ut | http://pfsense.com/ |
| 17:32.43 | lars-ut | feature list: http://pfsense.com/index.php?id=26 |
| 17:32.51 | lars-ut | easy to install as well |
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| 18:02.30 | ^Migs^ | http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/05/02/malaysia.wedding.ap/index.html |
| 18:02.31 | brac | [CNN.com - Woman, 104, takes man, 33, as husband No. 21 - May 2, 2006] |
| 18:04.54 | maquis | ^Migs^: is old woman rich? |
| 18:05.17 | findlay | hello everyone |
| 18:05.23 | maquis | and... what happened to the 20 previous husbands? |
| 18:05.30 | findlay | ibot: hi |
| 18:05.31 | ibot | hello, findlay |
| 18:05.37 | maquis | did they die suspicious deaths, leaving lots of money to their wife? |
| 18:05.37 | ^Migs^ | nope, dirt poor |
| 18:05.55 | ^Migs^ | 20 husbands. She's a playa. I give them 3 months before she dumps him for a younger man. |
| 18:06.06 | ^Migs^ | read the article, maquis. All your questions are answered. |
| 18:07.38 | maquis | ok... one more question: why in the world would a 33 year old guy marry a 104 year old woman? i don't care if they were close friends.. that's just... wrong |
| 18:09.37 | ^Migs^ | you're saying love between a man and a woman is wrong? |
| 18:09.56 | maquis | no... but with a 71 year age difference, i think it just might be |
| 18:10.04 | hans | -lart logrotate |
| 18:10.11 | ^Migs^ | age doesn't matter when you're in LOVE |
| 18:10.44 | hans | so apparently logrotate doesn't gracefully recover if, say, a log file is missing |
| 18:10.56 | ^Migs^ | I, for one, wish the happy couple the best |
| 18:10.57 | hans | and you realize this months later when your /var partition fills up |
| 18:11.03 | maquis | ^Migs^: erm... ok... |
| 18:11.16 | maquis | i just don't want to think about after the wedding and such... |
| 18:14.47 | ^Migs^ | I think you just hate the idea of marriage in general |
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| 19:09.46 | ^Migs^ | http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060501/1whwatch.htm |
| 19:09.48 | brac | [USNews.com: Inside Washington: Skewering comedy skit angers Bush and aides] |
| 19:10.07 | QBFreak | anyone here do a lot of importing delimited files into excel? |
| 19:10.11 | QBFreak | (no...) |
| 19:10.22 | sjansen | *sigh* I wish I had a little less shame. I'd really like to tell my students "teacher is going to spend an hour surfing the Web now, if you have any questions ask your neighbor". |
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| 19:10.52 | jsmith | QBFreak: If I did (and trust me, I have), I wouldn't admit it (oops... I think I just did) |
| 19:11.01 | QBFreak | hehe |
| 19:11.37 | QBFreak | I can't for the life of me figure out why it feels the need to display the time with this date field |
| 19:12.01 | QBFreak | and it only does it for this one field, and not for every record |
| 19:12.14 | QBFreak | I've been staring at it for a while now, can't find the pattern |
| 19:13.40 | QBFreak | they're all formatted the same on the input side |
| 19:14.57 | sjansen | ^Migs^: The USNEWS characterization of the event sure is different from the digg version. |
| 19:15.31 | sjansen | Although unlike US News, digg didn't mention much about toadies running away when their boss was embarrassed. |
| 19:15.51 | ^Migs^ | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7595951434679739793&q=white+house+correspondents&pl=true |
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| 19:21.16 | lars-ut-away | Harlan McCraney / Director: Russell Bates |
| 19:21.17 | lars-ut-away | http://www.otisproductions.com/Harlan_McCraney/harlan.html |
| 19:21.18 | brac | [Harlan McCraney / Director: Russell Bates] |
| 19:21.45 | lars-ut-away | Harlan McCraney, Presidential Speechalist |
| 19:21.46 | lars-ut-away | starring Andy Dick |
| 19:21.51 | lars-ut-away | very funny |
| 19:25.59 | optikal | 5~/win 24 |
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| 19:39.08 | emcnabb | sjansen: http://www.careerbuilder.com/monk-e-mail/?mid=8491713 |
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| 19:59.55 | lars-ut | I've got some spare Dell Optiplex 233s at the office, do you guys think that would be enough horsepower for a family web/email server? |
| 20:01.06 | ^Migs^ | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4953620.stm |
| 20:01.07 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Technology | Cash card taps virtual game funds] |
| 20:02.58 | emcnabb | lars-ut: I think so. mcnabbs.org is a virtual machine (Linode) w/ 120 MB RAM and it's running BIND, Apache, Postfix, Dspam, Dovecot, cupsd, OpenVPN, and usually has several people SSHed in at a time |
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| 20:03.50 | lars-ut | emcnabb: which ditro? |
| 20:03.53 | ^Migs^ | http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/11177/Piracy_is_Worse_than_Child_Pornography |
| 20:03.53 | lars-ut | distro |
| 20:03.55 | emcnabb | CentOS 4 |
| 20:04.07 | emcnabb | with a lot of fat cut off |
| 20:04.22 | lars-ut | thx |
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| 20:20.40 | ^Migs^ | apparently all my in-laws were over at my house this morning and they had a nice big fight |
| 20:21.56 | ^Migs^ | glad I wasn't there :) |
| 20:23.49 | mrpull | ^migs^: i lost track of the in-laws war. i thought they were living with you |
| 20:24.34 | ^Migs^ | yes, but more of them came over this time and the resident in-laws clashed with the visiting in-laws |
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| 20:25.22 | mrpull | oh boy. i think i'd get an apartment or maybe just live at work. |
| 20:25.33 | ^Migs^ | I try to live at work as much as possible now |
| 20:25.34 | ^Migs^ | :) |
| 20:25.53 | mrpull | i bet that makes paying the mortgage all the more sweet |
| 20:26.02 | ^Migs^ | hehe |
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| 20:30.13 | ^Migs^ | this time the visiting in-laws took the resident in-laws' car, so they'll be trying to mooch one of our cars off us now |
| 20:39.18 | mrpull | kick them all out |
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| 20:55.40 | maquis | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/05/a_real_movieplo.html <-- chuckle/scoff |
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| 21:10.28 | ^Migs^ | holy crap, I'm tired of looking at code for hours and hours |
| 21:11.03 | maquis | -lart ^Migs^ |
| 21:11.27 | mrpull | brac: good lart! |
| 21:11.37 | maquis | :) |
| 21:11.49 | maquis | hmmm |
| 21:12.29 | maquis | would be interesting if brac could be extended so that if someone told him good lart, he'd increase the probability of that lart showing up in the future, and if he was told bad lart, he'd decrease the probablility |
| 21:12.43 | mrpull | brac is ruby? |
| 21:12.43 | brac | you best check yo'self! |
| 21:13.28 | ^Migs^ | I guess |
| 21:13.54 | ^Migs^ | I think it wouldn't matter. We'd get bored of the same ones showing up each time, then other ones would show up as we decreased the probability of the former ones, and so on. Why not just keep it random? |
| 21:14.14 | mrpull | context sensitive larts would be more interesting |
| 21:17.42 | mrpull | i love games shows, but his is silly http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117942377?cs=1&s=h&p=0 |
| 21:17.46 | brac | [Variety.com - Let the games begin] |
| 21:17.49 | mrpull | s/his/this/ |
| 21:17.53 | brac | [Variety.com - Let the games begin] |
| 21:18.02 | mrpull | deal or no deal is a POS |
| 21:18.17 | mrpull | the copy cats cant possibly be better |
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| 21:19.10 | harleypig | ow ow ow |
| 21:20.22 | harleypig | mrpull: got a login? |
| 21:20.34 | mrpull | for variety? |
| 21:20.57 | harleypig | yeah |
| 21:21.10 | harleypig | not yours |
| 21:21.15 | mrpull | i didn't need one, but I followed the link from http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/trade-roundup/trade-roundup-dealmania-grips-hitstarved-networks-171053.php |
| 21:21.17 | brac | [Defamer, the L.A. Gossip Rag: Trade Round-Up: Dealmania Grips Hit-Starved Networks] |
| 21:23.49 | harleypig | thanks. |
| 21:23.55 | harleypig | williamshatnerdvdclub?! |
| 21:23.58 | harleypig | that's ... |
| 21:23.59 | harleypig | wierd. |
| 21:25.08 | mrpull | that is odd |
| 21:25.23 | mrpull | i get a kick out of defamer. i am a sucker for odd gossip. |
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| 21:27.59 | harleypig | hmm ... interesting concept on the shatnerdvdclub ... I don't suppose its a knock-off of something real? |
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| 21:35.50 | Jayce^ | ~nuke obfuscated for openclue spamming again |
| 21:35.52 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at obfuscated for openclue spamming again ... B☢☢M! |
| 21:35.53 | Jayce^ | at least it's only *one* article this time, but the *same* one |
| 21:35.53 | tristanbob | any recommendations for a liveCD to run on 128 MB of memory? |
| 21:35.53 | harleypig | damnit mrpull ... i didn't need another feed ... |
| 21:36.10 | tristanbob | I tried Ubuntu Live 5.10, and it boots, but it is not usable on this system |
| 21:37.00 | tristanbob | so I am looking at Xubuntu Live, and also Wolvix |
| 21:37.10 | tristanbob | XFCE looks very nice |
| 21:37.11 | Jayce^ | tristanbob, you could use knoppix and pass the parameter to use fluxbox, or another lightweight manager (if you even need a gui) |
| 21:37.46 | tristanbob | Jayce^: I want the simplest solution, it is not for me but an Aunt living on the East coast |
| 21:38.28 | tristanbob | Jayce^: All I really want is to give them a web-browser |
| 21:38.53 | tristanbob | Jayce^: but I am looking at the "Game Edition" of wolvix, which would make the kids happy |
| 21:39.26 | Jayce^ | well quite a few will do it then, just use a simple WM |
| 21:39.36 | Jayce^ | and, old ram is cheap :) |
| 21:40.53 | tristanbob | yes, I would install memory if they were local |
| 21:41.15 | tristanbob | the hard drive died, and I wanted to give them a stop-gap solution untill they buy a new PC |
| 21:41.29 | tristanbob | plus a great chance to show-off linux |
| 21:41.33 | mrpull | tristanbob: have you tried DSL? |
| 21:41.45 | mrpull | the whole thing is 50MB... it should work right? |
| 21:41.55 | nick125 | DSL is nice.. |
| 21:42.09 | tristanbob | DSL would probably work |
| 21:42.25 | tristanbob | I just wanted to see if there were any other distros I missed |
| 21:42.28 | nick125 | I've put slack and xfce on a 300mhz/96MB ram box before.. |
| 21:42.36 | tristanbob | I want something simple and clean |
| 21:42.37 | mrpull | tristanbob: maybe you could run it from a flash drive to speed things up |
| 21:42.44 | tristanbob | wolvix is slackware + xfce |
| 21:43.17 | nick125 | I would've put gentoo on that 300mhz box, but, I have a life and don't feel like compiling on a 300mhz box, and I'm too lazy to setup distcc.. |
| 21:43.17 | tristanbob | mrpull: I don't think the old hardware supports booting from USB |
| 21:43.27 | nick125 | yeah |
| 21:43.37 | nick125 | I think its the newer BIOSes |
| 21:43.47 | mrpull | nick125: distcc is easy to setup |
| 21:43.49 | maquis | -lart bio 100 |
| 21:44.00 | nick125 | mrpull: I know..I'm just lazy :D |
| 21:44.06 | mrpull | nick125_lappy: but it didn't make any difference when I threw 4 nodes at it |
| 21:45.16 | nick125 | mm..package |
| 21:45.49 | nick125 | speakeasy sent me another dud err i meant dsl modem |
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| 22:15.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh? |
| 22:16.47 | mheath | x96's Radio From Hell |
| 22:17.11 | mheath | I sent them an e-mail, saying that I've always enjoyed their show...and now I'm leaving in a month and a half, and I'd love if I could come hang out, and be on the show before. |
| 22:17.14 | mheath | They said sure :) |
| 22:18.11 | lars-ut | mheath: have fun and be yourself |
| 22:19.07 | lars-ut | & find out what Carey uses for sound playback |
| 22:19.23 | mheath | haha, will do |
| 22:19.32 | mheath | They asked me to come on either tomorrow, or two weeks from tomorrow |
| 22:19.47 | mheath | I couldn't really just drop everything for tomorrow and go, so I'm going two weeks from tomorrow |
| 22:19.51 | mheath | 6-10 AM |
| 22:19.59 | lars-ut | make sure you get in a jab at Gina as well |
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| 22:20.33 | lars-ut | "Heavy DRM not only slows down an MP3 player but also sucks the very life out of them." |
| 22:20.33 | lars-ut | http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-6462771-1.html |
| 22:21.03 | lars-ut | about 25% faster than non-DRM tracks. |
| 22:21.08 | mheath | lars-ut, aren't you the one who's doing the X-Men 3 thing? |
| 22:21.13 | lars-ut | yep |
| 22:21.31 | lars-ut | plug?!? |
| 22:21.40 | mheath | heh. |
| 22:21.47 | mheath | Any info yet? |
| 22:21.53 | lars-ut | Yes. |
| 22:22.16 | lars-ut | I'm still holding my breath for the facilities agreement to be paid though. |
| 22:22.28 | lars-ut | Once DevUtah does that I'll announce formally |
| 22:22.32 | lars-ut | but... |
| 22:23.06 | lars-ut | Event Date: Friday May 26, 2006 Event Time: 12:01 AM Showtime |
| 22:23.20 | mheath | Is that opening night? |
| 22:23.32 | mheath | IE, the first night that anyone can really see it? |
| 22:23.33 | lars-ut | Yes. So wait in line Thursday night, attend show Fri morning. |
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| 22:24.14 | mheath | lars-ut, I'm definately coming to that one..... |
| 22:24.25 | mheath | Well...hmmmm. Depends on if I can get that night off of work. |
| 22:24.32 | mheath | Though, I suppose I should be early enough to make it anyway. |
| 22:24.40 | mheath | *should get off early |
| 22:24.44 | lars-ut | yup |
| 22:25.22 | lars-ut | I imagine we'll have a 40 min wait in line or so |
| 22:25.50 | lars-ut | that's only if you care where you sit. It's a 297 seat screen, THX certified. |
| 22:26.48 | mheath | How do they end up with 297? I mean, really... |
| 22:27.07 | lars-ut | Probably because of handicapped seating |
| 22:27.16 | lars-ut | where seats have been removed. |
| 22:27.28 | lars-ut | that's just a guess, though. |
| 22:30.12 | mheath | lars-ut, I take it you listen to x96 then? :) |
| 22:30.41 | ScytheBlade1 | mheath, that's the station that you'll be on? |
| 22:30.49 | mheath | Yeah. |
| 22:30.50 | mheath | 96.3 |
| 22:30.54 | ScytheBlade1 | When, and what for? |
| 22:33.13 | mheath | Well, I just e-mailed them saying I'd like to hang out. I love the show, I'm leaving in a month and a half, and I'd love to be on the show before I go. They said sure :) |
| 22:33.24 | ScytheBlade1 | When? |
| 22:33.42 | mheath | Two weeks from tomorrow. |
| 22:34.03 | ScytheBlade1 | just kinda... sitting there with them, talking? |
| 22:34.53 | mheath | My experience is that people who they have in studio don't talk on air that much.....but, yeah. |
| 22:35.38 | mheath | Apparently they're doing it under the "Best Friends Of the Program" (BFOP) thing. They have a web form you can fill out about why you're a big fan of the program, and why you should be on the show with them |
| 22:36.02 | mheath | I didn't fill out that form, but apparently my request is being treated under that category |
| 22:36.44 | mheath | ScytheBlade1, http://www.x96.com/12605time/station/bfop.asp |
| 22:36.45 | brac | [Untitled Document] |
| 22:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | "Wednesdays from 6-10am" |
| 22:37.15 | mheath | They worded that poorly |
| 22:37.20 | mheath | *A* Wednesday |
| 22:38.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Do it early |
| 22:38.10 | ScytheBlade1 | My alarm turns on at 6:27 AM |
| 22:38.24 | mheath | I'll be there the whole time. |
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| 22:38.33 | mheath | IE, I get there at 6, and leave at 10 |
| 22:38.37 | mheath | and get free breakfast :) |
| 22:38.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh good |
| 22:39.11 | mheath | Two weeks from tomorrow. |
| 22:39.51 | ScytheBlade1 | nice |
| 22:43.25 | levi | x96 used to be really cool. |
| 22:43.56 | mheath | Their morning show still is. |
| 22:44.02 | mheath | Better than most morning shows....... |
| 22:44.18 | levi | I don't particularly like morning shows. |
| 22:44.24 | levi | I would rather hear music. |
| 22:44.42 | JoshH | ya i concur levi |
| 22:44.45 | vontrapp | i can't stand any morning show but chunga and mister (101.9) |
| 22:44.50 | JoshH | morning shows are usually unfunny and annoying |
| 22:45.09 | JoshH | sometimes x96 or bob and tom on kber will have something good, but it's usually not worth it |
| 22:45.32 | lars-ut | mheath: yes, I listen to X96 |
| 22:45.33 | mheath | vontrapp, x96 gave chunga that name |
| 22:45.48 | levi | I usually listen to classical 89 in the morning, unless I'm on my bike. |
| 22:46.06 | mheath | Thats what my dad listens to, and me somtimes. Good station. |
| 22:46.08 | vontrapp | mm, bike... |
| 22:46.32 | lars-ut | I listen to 99.5/99.1, 101.9, 97.5 and AM 1430 |
| 22:47.25 | mheath | I found Fun Dips! |
| 22:47.30 | mheath | I used to love that candy when I was a kid |
| 22:47.31 | lars-ut | And occasionally 89.1 & even 97.9 - they play some tranquil music around 9pm or so |
| 22:47.34 | mheath | I haven't seen them for sale in ages.. |
| 22:48.05 | levi | I've seen them around. |
| 22:48.11 | lars-ut | mheath misses the 'Dinner Music' played on some classical FM station in Seattle |
| 22:48.26 | mheath | O.o |
| 22:48.29 | lars-ut | KBYU plays some funky classical at times |
| 22:48.53 | levi | lars-ut: What do you consider funky? |
| 22:49.09 | lars-ut | lhmmm... |
| 22:49.27 | lars-ut | I guess, Stravinsky |
| 22:49.28 | levi | They play lots of Dvorak. I like Dvorak. |
| 22:50.10 | lars-ut | I'll admit a lack of depth in my classical taste though, levi |
| 22:50.28 | tensai | I listen to podcasts whenever I'm in the car. sometimes I'll flip over to All Things Considered. radio sucks for the most part. |
| 22:51.00 | lars-ut | I change the station very often |
| 22:51.25 | lars-ut | I can spot a Lowbook Sales ad about .75 sec in |
| 22:51.44 | lars-ut | s/spot/discern |
| 22:51.51 | tensai | that's 2 seconds too much! |
| 22:51.55 | lars-ut | amen |
| 22:57.20 | lars-ut | levi: So far I like Mozart, Bach, Copland, and Gershwin on the classical side |
| 22:58.25 | ^Migs^ | yeah, they're cool |
| 22:59.03 | tensai | I'm growing some rosemary in my office because my wife doesn't like the smell. I enjoy growing plants. My coworker has taken it on herself to do all the watering. I tried moving it to a hard to reach place, but no change. |
| 22:59.32 | JoshH | so you are trying to keep your wife out of the office? |
| 22:59.33 | tensai | but I'm too chicken to say, "hey, leave my plants alone!" |
| 23:00.04 | tensai | JoshH: nice side effect, but not directly :) |
| 23:00.17 | lars-ut | tensai: just tell your co-worker you get a sense of satisfaction out of caring for the plants |
| 23:00.42 | lars-ut | she wouldn't want to take that away from you would she? |
| 23:16.03 | lars-ut | ah crap. partition error on this windows box I'm tring to back up |
| 23:16.23 | lars-ut | -roulette |
| 23:16.23 | brac | lars-ut: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:17.05 | *** join/#utah tristanbob (i=Tristan@137.190.3.107) |
| 23:17.07 | *** part/#utah ^Migs^ (n=Migs@205.122.50.21) |
| 23:17.55 | *** join/#utah [Ubuntu-Utah]tri (i=tristanb@137.190.3.107) |
| 23:19.33 | *** join/#utah [Utah]tristanbob (i=tristanb@137.190.3.107) |
| 23:25.20 | lars-ut | -roulette |
| 23:25.20 | brac | lars-ut: chamber 2 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 23:25.33 | lars-ut | not a good sign |
| 23:31.15 | lars-ut | whew - it worked - backing up drive now. |
| 23:31.36 | ScytheBlade1 | -routlette |
| 23:31.47 | lars-ut | -roulette |
| 23:31.48 | brac | lars-ut: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:32.02 | lars-ut | your turn ScytheBlade1 |
| 23:32.24 | ScytheBlade1 | oh |
| 23:32.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I just can't spell |
| 23:32.28 | ScytheBlade1 | -roulette |
| 23:32.28 | brac | ScytheBlade1: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:32.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 23:32.36 | lars-ut | dang |
| 23:32.38 | lars-ut | -roulette |
| 23:32.38 | brac | lars-ut: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:32.45 | lars-ut | :) |
| 23:32.47 | ScytheBlade1 | -roulette |
| 23:32.48 | brac | ScytheBlade1: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:32.50 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 23:32.51 | lars-ut | crap |
| 23:32.52 | ScytheBlade1 | zing |
| 23:32.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Come on now |
| 23:32.56 | lars-ut | -roulette |
| 23:32.56 | brac | lars-ut: chamber 5 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:32.59 | ScytheBlade1 | bah |
| 23:33.02 | ScytheBlade1 | whatever |
| 23:33.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Do I have to? |
| 23:33.52 | lars-ut | "Turn your key, sir!" |
| 23:35.15 | lars-ut | http://www.phrack.org/phrack/58/p58-0x01 |
| 23:35.34 | *** join/#utah lars_ut (n=Death@c-67-186-244-23.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:35.36 | lars_ut | -roulette |
| 23:35.37 | brac | lars_ut: chamber 6 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 23:35.40 | *** part/#utah lars_ut (n=Death@c-67-186-244-23.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:35.46 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 23:35.57 | lars-ut | lol |
| 23:36.53 | ScytheBlade1 | -roulette |
| 23:36.53 | brac | ScytheBlade1: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:36.59 | lars-ut | scratch that. second today. |
| 23:37.06 | lars-ut | -roulette |
| 23:37.06 | brac | lars-ut: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:37.09 | ScytheBlade1 | -roulette |
| 23:37.09 | brac | ScytheBlade1: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:37.11 | lars-ut | -roulette |
| 23:37.11 | brac | lars-ut: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:37.13 | ScytheBlade1 | -roulette |
| 23:37.14 | brac | ScytheBlade1: chamber 5 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 23:37.16 | ScytheBlade1 | bah |
| 23:37.19 | lars-ut | -roulette |
| 23:37.19 | brac | lars-ut: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:37.20 | ScytheBlade1 | bah |
| 23:37.22 | ScytheBlade1 | -roulette |
| 23:37.23 | brac | ScytheBlade1: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:37.24 | lars-ut | -roulette |
| 23:37.24 | brac | lars-ut: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:37.27 | ScytheBlade1 | -roulette |
| 23:37.27 | brac | ScytheBlade1: chamber 4 of 6 => +click+ |
| 23:37.29 | lars-ut | -roulette |
| 23:37.30 | brac | lars-ut: chamber 5 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 23:37.33 | ScytheBlade1 | there we go |
| 23:37.36 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
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| 23:37.53 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 23:38.37 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net) |
| 23:40.15 | lars-ut | "And tonight on 2 news: Local Utah County Board Game Night spirals out of control - details at 9" |
