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| 00:21.49 | xbmodder_lappy | xmission man! |
| 00:22.06 | Supaplex | localhost > * |
| 00:22.06 | nick125 | http://qdb.us/58893 < everyone, vote on that |
| 00:22.07 | brac | [QDB: Quote #58893] |
| 00:22.11 | xbmodder_lappy | ... |
| 00:22.34 | xbmodder_lappy | you changed it! |
| 00:22.46 | nick125 | no I didn't |
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| 00:23.09 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: what did I change? |
| 00:23.11 | nick125 | huh?!? |
| 00:23.18 | nick125 | HUH?!?!!??!?!! |
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| 00:38.01 | elg | glad to see sf.net is improving. It used to take 3 clicks to get to the stupid download. now it takes 5 |
| 00:39.30 | jsmith-away | More ad revenue |
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| 00:45.33 | Supaplex | yay prdownloads |
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| 01:12.49 | xbmodder_lappy | is maddox based out of utah? |
| 01:12.55 | xbmodder_lappy | I assume he is because of fiber |
| 01:12.57 | xbmodder_lappy | fiber |
| 01:14.56 | dataw0lf | yes |
| 01:15.02 | dataw0lf | maddox.xmission.com |
| 01:15.14 | nick125 | mmmm |
| 01:15.26 | nick125 | I need a valid las vegas, nv zip code...mmm |
| 01:15.59 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: hey..you arent in #atarack |
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| 01:59.35 | elg | ok, unison is getting on my nerves |
| 02:01.32 | elg | it's telling me it's going to take an hour and a half to sync the changes with my mp3 player |
| 02:01.48 | elg | um, hello. I can fill the thing up in maybe 5 or 10 minutes |
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| 02:48.37 | levi | Yo. |
| 02:57.15 | xbmodder_lappy | you |
| 02:57.43 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: soo.. |
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| 03:15.15 | xbmodder_lappy | PING |
| 03:19.14 | emcnabb | so sunburnt... |
| 03:26.23 | elg | ~spell analogous |
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| 03:42.24 | maquis | emcnabb: ouch... |
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| 04:19.41 | mheath | Meh, anyone have much experience with Solaris 10, or sun hardware in general? |
| 04:20.02 | mheath | I poked around with it a bit, with an older Sun Ultra Enterprise 1 I have...never relaly did much |
| 04:20.12 | mheath | but now it looks I'm going to be admining a Blade100 |
| 04:20.33 | mheath | Just wondering if theres anyone in here whos mind I can pick a bit, if any questions arise |
| 04:20.39 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, cool, what are you admining it for? |
| 04:27.00 | findlay | this is funny |
| 04:27.26 | findlay | every time I wake up this monitor I don't know whether I'll get a kdm prompt or an xscreensaver one |
| 04:27.28 | QBFreak | =haha |
| 04:27.30 | QBFreak | =-= |
| 04:27.33 | QBFreak | BAH |
| 04:27.35 | QBFreak | no = |
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| 04:28.25 | bertbob | so do you have 2 x sessions or none? |
| 04:28.28 | QBFreak | MARE and IRC just do not mix |
| 04:28.50 | mheath | Kinda neat that WSU was handing out free Sun's at the thing today |
| 04:29.08 | mheath | pity our highschool's network techs won't let us so much as plug it into the wall at our school |
| 04:29.17 | atoponce | mheath: they are? |
| 04:29.22 | atoponce | free sun blades? |
| 04:29.43 | atoponce | i must be out of the loop |
| 04:29.48 | mheath | atoponce, We were at a Robocode competition up there today |
| 04:29.51 | findlay | I have xscreensaver running and KDE |
| 04:29.51 | mheath | No, no, not for the general public |
| 04:29.59 | atoponce | ahh, ok. that makes sense. |
| 04:30.08 | mheath | they gave a used sun blade to the teacher of every highschool that competed |
| 04:30.12 | mheath | i don't know WHY |
| 04:30.28 | mheath | I can imagine them going back to their schools and being utterly confused |
| 04:30.32 | atoponce | i wonder if they came from the solaris lab in the cs building |
| 04:30.37 | findlay | heh, probably just unloading old hardware on unwitting subjects |
| 04:30.44 | mheath | Teachers who teach java programming on windows machines |
| 04:30.50 | atoponce | heck. i would take one or two or three off of their hands |
| 04:30.55 | findlay | I would |
| 04:31.19 | mheath | The machines have a root password that they didn't tell us, meaning you have to reinstall Solaris (or know a lot of OpenBoot stuff) |
| 04:31.55 | mheath | I can't possibly imagine most people there can so much as get it to boot from the install CDs |
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| 04:32.35 | atoponce | so what is the robocode competition exactly? |
| 04:33.25 | mheath | atoponce, Just competing (laddered tournament) against robots that people from different local highschools (and a few from WSU students) made for IBM's Robocode. |
| 04:33.46 | atoponce | so an engineering contest basically? |
| 04:34.00 | atoponce | so any of the contestants even know what a sun blade is? |
| 04:34.07 | atoponce | s/so/do |
| 04:34.08 | mheath | atoponce, No. |
| 04:34.16 | xbmodder_lappy | A very expensive thing? |
| 04:34.20 | atoponce | that's got to be frustrating |
| 04:34.26 | mheath | The WSU computer science professor who was telling everyone about them kept saying they run "Unix 10" |
| 04:34.29 | atoponce | it is for me anyway, and i didn't even go |
| 04:34.38 | atoponce | mheath: who was it? |
| 04:34.55 | mheath | I can't remember. There was a female there, too.... |
| 04:35.02 | mheath | The guy taught java programming classes |
| 04:35.08 | atoponce | brian rague? |
| 04:35.21 | mheath | Maybe. I really can't even remember if I caught his name =\ |
| 04:35.33 | atoponce | you know, i have pictures... |
| 04:35.48 | mheath | It just irritated me |
| 04:36.02 | mheath | I'm there thinking "WOW! A Sun Blade 100...free! With a nice monitor! This should be really neat..." |
| 04:36.17 | atoponce | http://icarus.cs.weber.edu/~aarontoponce/drupal/ |
| 04:36.38 | mheath | and "OH! I can use it to run a Jumpstart server, get Solaris on that Ultra Enterprise 1 with the busted CD-ROM drive!" |
| 04:36.42 | atoponce | every faculty link has an image |
| 04:36.48 | mheath | No one else really what to think of it |
| 04:37.25 | atoponce | that's too bad |
| 04:37.57 | mheath | Heather Coll was there, and Greg Anderson |
| 04:38.04 | mheath | Greg Anderson was the one who kept saying "Unix 10" |
| 04:38.13 | atoponce | interesting |
| 04:38.24 | atoponce | i'm going to have to give him some crap about that |
| 04:38.26 | atoponce | :) |
| 04:38.38 | mheath | wait |
| 04:38.42 | atoponce | was nicole the lady there? |
| 04:38.52 | mheath | a University Computer Science Department Chair |
| 04:38.59 | mheath | Calls Solaris 10 "Unix 10"? |
| 04:39.09 | mheath | atoponce, no, Heather Coll. She wasn't that involved, though. |
| 04:39.15 | mheath | Just sitting, watching the matches, talking to some people. |
| 04:39.22 | atoponce | ahh. she's the couselor |
| 04:40.02 | atoponce | understand something very vital. if you are interesting in computer science and linux, don't attend wsu. they are a bought and paid for microsoft shop |
| 04:40.11 | atoponce | s/interesting/interested |
| 04:40.31 | atoponce | including the chair |
| 04:40.42 | mheath | atoponce, oh, yeah, she was there. Nicole Anderson. |
| 04:40.43 | atoponce | which, imho, is very sad |
| 04:40.53 | mheath | Just handing out WSU brochures and such |
| 04:41.06 | atoponce | nicole is cool. if you have an hp printer, chances are she wrote the windows driver for it |
| 04:41.44 | atoponce | greg is actually really cool. funny that he called solaris 10 "unix 10" though |
| 04:41.58 | mheath | Yeah, he was a cool guy. |
| 04:42.17 | atoponce | greg is one of the best profs in that dept |
| 04:42.39 | atoponce | nicole as well |
| 04:43.55 | mheath | I dunno |
| 04:44.16 | mheath | It all sounded kinda like - "Sign up today, and you too can be a part of the exciting opportunities the growing gaming industry has to offer you!" |
| 04:44.30 | mheath | Nicole tried to tell us all that the gaming industry was "low stress" |
| 04:44.43 | atoponce | they're losing numbers. |
| 04:44.59 | mheath | Luckily we also had someone who worked in the gaming industry speak, who quickly put that stupid assessment to rest |
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| 04:45.12 | atoponce | last i knew, the last cs graduating class was under 80 |
| 04:45.22 | atoponce | lol |
| 04:46.04 | atoponce | i thnk attending cs courses currently, there are less than 350 students. |
| 04:46.14 | atoponce | 6 years ago, it was over 800 |
| 04:46.45 | mheath | Wow |
| 04:46.52 | atoponce | everyone is attending either utah state or uofu or byu |
| 04:47.06 | atoponce | more money, better programs, etc. |
| 04:47.06 | mheath | If I ever major in CS, I think I'd want to attend MIT. I long ago made that simply wishful thinking, though. |
| 04:47.17 | atoponce | yeah, as did i |
| 04:47.24 | atoponce | then i looked at my gpa... |
| 04:47.48 | atoponce | :) |
| 04:48.24 | mheath | atoponce, Any chance you could offer some insights into Solaris, if any questions arise? |
| 04:48.35 | mheath | I take it you've run it before (I did ge that Ultra 1 from you) |
| 04:49.13 | atoponce | mmm, i could help a little. not much though, as all my 1337 skillz come from linux ;) |
| 04:49.32 | atoponce | i do still have remote access to solaris, however |
| 04:49.48 | atoponce | no root, though |
| 04:50.51 | mheath | Does Sun have a proprietary HTTP server, or is Apache HTTPd my best bet? |
| 04:51.15 | atoponce | sun does have an http server, but you will want to stick with apache. |
| 04:51.35 | atoponce | the sun httpd daemon is buggy and slow at best |
| 04:52.07 | atoponce | i forget what it is called... |
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| 04:56.32 | mheath | I wish I had the time or money to work on and commercialize some of my computer related ideas |
| 04:56.53 | mheath | I see some of them as being groundbreaking and revolutionary if I could introduce them now, but quite possibly old and obsolete by the time I get a chance to do so. |
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| 05:03.47 | levi | Well, that's priorities for you. |
| 05:05.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone know of a good GUI for creating .iso files? |
| 05:05.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Prefreably KDE based.. kioslaves rock |
| 05:06.08 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, k3b |
| 05:06.17 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll make .iso files? |
| 05:06.24 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, start small, like a basic service idea, which doesn't require much man power, and make a business plan. Present the business plan to anyone (including bank), one you get money, deploy... |
| 05:06.27 | xbmodder_lappy | I think |
| 05:06.45 | QBFreak | or mkisofs or whatever its called |
| 05:06.53 | ScytheBlade1 | QBFreak, I've never once gotten the ream of command line options right to build the ISO in a way I want it |
| 05:06.53 | ScytheBlade1 | EVER |
| 05:07.03 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy....dude. I'm gone in 2 months. I likely will barely touch a computer for the next 6 years. I'll possibly be dead within that same time period. |
| 05:07.09 | QBFreak | heh, I cut and pasted from the tutorial I was following |
| 05:07.25 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, yeah, sad but true fact of the navy... |
| 05:07.33 | mheath | ..... |
| 05:08.02 | xbmodder_lappy | that you dissapear, and there is a chance it may be forever |
| 05:08.25 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, What are you doing with your computers, and other materialistic objects? |
| 05:08.34 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy, the navy lets you have laptops on ships, and has had almost no combat related deaths since vietnam. |
| 05:08.40 | mheath | I'm not going into the Navy -.- |
| 05:09.00 | xbmodder_lappy | I thought you were becoming a sailor? |
| 05:09.07 | xbmodder_lappy | or are a sailor? |
| 05:09.24 | levi | mheath is too macho to do sissy Navy stuff. Or something like that. |
| 05:09.41 | QBFreak | ScytheBlade1: this makes a bootable CD of the current directory, specifying the boot disk image: mkisofs -N -J -joliet-long -D -V "UBCD" -o ../ubcd34.iso -b boot/loader.bin -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 . |
| 05:09.46 | mheath | levi, lmao :) |
| 05:09.59 | ScytheBlade1 | "-joliet-long" |
| 05:10.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I swear that's not in the man page |
| 05:10.06 | QBFreak | I imagine you could drop the -b <path> and the two parameters after it, and change the volume lable |
| 05:10.28 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: You haven't been paying attention. The whole sailor idea is /so/ several months ago. |
| 05:10.31 | QBFreak | its been a while since I tried to make one without just running that (which is in a script) |
| 05:10.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:11.03 | mheath | levi, eh? I train with a USN related youth group, I wasn't ever planning on going into the USN though. |
| 05:11.17 | levi | mheath: Hah, just like you weren't planning on going to grad school, right? |
| 05:11.34 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, What are you going into now? |
| 05:11.43 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, Well I was sorta /ignore during that time... |
| 05:11.53 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: The Marines. Hoo-ah. |
| 05:11.59 | xbmodder_lappy | sweet |
| 05:12.08 | mheath | levi, Man, give me a break. I'm 16. My interests have changed a bit over the years. Sorry. |
| 05:12.10 | xbmodder_lappy | but more chance of death, still sweet... |
| 05:13.02 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, What are you doing with your computers, and other materialistic objects of your passion? |
| 05:13.03 | levi | mheath: Well, maybe I'd have forgotten about your past obsessions if you hadn't spawned endless arguments with people over all of them and talked about them incessantly. |
| 05:13.31 | xbmodder_lappy | I feel sorry if you have a girlfriend, you'll pretty much vanish for her... |
| 05:13.43 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy, Well, mostly I was planning on not giving it to you. |
| 05:13.52 | QBFreak | or her |
| 05:13.53 | xbmodder_lappy | aw, darn... |
| 05:14.23 | mheath | levi, meh, thats fair, I guess. |
| 05:14.48 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy, You're a moron. |
| 05:14.53 | xbmodder_lappy | I am? |
| 05:15.00 | xbmodder_lappy | What did I say? |
| 05:15.03 | levi | Hah. |
| 05:15.17 | levi | Pot, kettle, etc. |
| 05:15.36 | mheath | levi, hehe :) |
| 05:15.42 | xbmodder_lappy | Dude, seriously, every conversation that I continue more than 20-30 minutes I get called: moron, idiot, retard, etc... |
| 05:15.59 | mheath | Wow, what an interesting patern. |
| 05:16.14 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: You need to hang out somewhere with people your own age. |
| 05:16.48 | mheath | Heh, if only I had that luxury |
| 05:17.06 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, yeah the only person I find interest in my own age you guys have ment |
| 05:17.09 | xbmodder_lappy | *met |
| 05:17.15 | mheath | I guess I'll be living in close quarters with about 100 guys my age pretty soon, though |
| 05:17.49 | levi | And you'll all have Hoo-ah! and Semper Fi! in common. |
| 05:17.53 | xbmodder_lappy | perry753 geoizil nick125... |
| 05:19.26 | mheath | levi, don't knock what you haven't experienced. Comraderie like that is something I can't even describe to you. |
| 05:19.53 | linuxalien | Just be sure to blow up something for me mheath |
| 05:19.54 | levi | It's perfectly valid to knock things I haven't experienced. |
| 05:20.00 | levi | Think about it. |
| 05:20.37 | mheath | linuxalien, will do ;-P |
| 05:20.43 | mheath | I feel GREAT |
| 05:20.53 | mheath | Went for a run tonight, first time since I twisted my knee at work |
| 05:21.03 | mheath | Actually had a REALLY easy and great time with it |
| 05:21.09 | linuxalien | mheath, :) And stay away from landmines. They're not very sociable, or so I've heard. |
| 05:21.30 | ScytheBlade1 | xbmodder_lappy, about the "the only person I find interest in my own age group" etc. thing... I somehow think there's more *nix people your age where you live, than over here in Utah :) |
| 05:21.30 | mheath | linuxalien, meh, I've got bigger concerns. I'm going to be a field radio operator... |
| 05:21.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Either way |
| 05:21.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I need to sleep |
| 05:22.00 | linuxalien | mheath, sounds like a fun job actually. And it most likely is transferable to the civilian world when you get out |
| 05:22.20 | mheath | linuxalien, its one of the most dangerous jobs in the Marine Corp. |
| 05:22.22 | ScytheBlade1 | So, off I go |
| 05:22.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Night all |
| 05:22.36 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, I live in stuck-up little pleasanton |
| 05:22.36 | mheath | I'm out with the infantry, plus I'm the guy the enemy wants to kill first |
| 05:22.41 | mheath | Shoot the guy that can call for backup |
| 05:22.52 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, I can gaurantee you that there are more *nix-ers |
| 05:23.02 | xbmodder_lappy | but not more *nix-ers my age in my city |
| 05:23.04 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy, you live far closer to San Fransico than to here. |
| 05:23.11 | mheath | :) |
| 05:23.24 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, I can't drive, and I have over-protective parents... |
| 05:23.32 | xbmodder_lappy | which means the city is off-limits |
| 05:23.39 | mheath | lmao |
| 05:23.39 | xbmodder_lappy | also, I don't like that place too much |
| 05:23.51 | xbmodder_lappy | well parts of it are |
| 05:23.56 | xbmodder_lappy | SJO and OAK are cool |
| 05:24.14 | mheath | You have over-protective parents....they won't let you involved with local social groups like LUGs |
| 05:24.26 | xbmodder_lappy | they won't drive me |
| 05:24.28 | mheath | Yet they'll let you spend hours of your life infront of your computer chatting with strangers who live hundreds of miles away |
| 05:24.28 | levi | I visited a friend in the Haight-Ashbury district of SF. It was pretty cool. |
| 05:24.33 | linuxalien | mheath, oh, is it dangerous because if they take you out, they'll cause havoc with your fellow soldiers? |
| 05:24.38 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, you think they know? |
| 05:25.02 | mheath | And they give you money for investing in lucrative ventures like Google |
| 05:25.30 | xbmodder_lappy | ...yeah.... |
| 05:25.33 | xbmodder_lappy | well my dad... |
| 05:25.40 | xbmodder_lappy | My mom got pissed.... |
| 05:25.49 | mheath | (Please don't feed me the "investing in google isn't lucrative!" line, ignoring the fact that Google is random, weird, and completely ignores its investors) |
| 05:26.04 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, I am not... |
| 05:26.52 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, and I checked with 3-lugs |
| 05:26.52 | mheath | Good night, and good luck. |
| 05:26.52 | linuxalien | goodnight mheath |
| 05:26.52 | xbmodder_lappy | there are no members under the age of 18 that are regulars |
| 05:27.09 | levi | So, time to develop other interests! |
| 05:27.18 | linuxalien | xbmodder_lappy, if age is an issue, why not start a Teen Lug? |
| 05:27.23 | levi | You can do that you know. |
| 05:27.50 | xbmodder_lappy | linuxalien, to start up a club you need to be friendly, and have an attractive personality |
| 05:28.03 | xbmodder_lappy | It would horribly fail.. |
| 05:28.35 | linuxalien | Well, make the first few people that join officers and let them take it from there. |
| 05:28.43 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, I know: business (I cannot get into the business club at school because my grades sucked last year), and computers really... |
| 05:29.00 | levi | No, I meana /other/ interests. |
| 05:29.23 | levi | Take up bicycling or something. |
| 05:29.28 | levi | Or reading. |
| 05:29.34 | levi | Or playing video games. |
| 05:29.37 | xbmodder_lappy | reading, I do read... |
| 05:29.40 | QBFreak | reading is a very social activity..... |
| 05:29.44 | xbmodder_lappy | I do play video games... |
| 05:29.51 | xbmodder_lappy | but those are anti-social... |
| 05:30.32 | levi | Not if you play them with friends. LAN-parties! |
| 05:31.54 | xbmodder_lappy | Now to buy a LAN party machine, and to intergrate myself within a video-game playing society.. |
| 05:33.25 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, see, pretty much every teenager has labeled me as either: hacker, stalker, moron, or nerd... which is not very good when you are trying to talk to them |
| 05:33.57 | levi | Well, then just be antisocial and do better when you go off to college. |
| 05:33.59 | xbmodder_lappy | Like I find watching people sort of entertaining, thats sort of why I like fiction... |
| 05:34.17 | linuxalien | Tell them to bend over and take it like a sheep. Works for me, especially at work. |
| 05:34.31 | xbmodder_lappy | heh |
| 05:35.13 | xbmodder_lappy | I don't understand how to be funny though.. its frickin' impossible to come up with _anything_ |
| 05:35.55 | levi | Don't be funny, then. Just be friendly. Say hi, remember people's names, ask how they're doing. |
| 05:35.56 | linuxalien | Hmmm Just read a bit, and read humorous books like Hitch Hiker's Guide, and other stuff. |
| 05:35.59 | linuxalien | Yeah |
| 05:36.02 | linuxalien | That works too |
| 05:36.14 | levi | Smile. |
| 05:36.28 | QBFreak | and above all, don't bite |
| 05:36.43 | QBFreak | for some reason people get really freaked out when you bite them |
| 05:36.50 | xbmodder_lappy | QBFreak, I wonder why? |
| 05:37.04 | QBFreak | but it was my food, not his! |
| 05:37.28 | xbmodder_lappy | QBFreak, People are not food... |
| 05:37.50 | QBFreak | so I found out |
| 05:38.45 | linuxalien | Someone shoulda told Dahmer |
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| 05:40.48 | xbmodder_lappy | SpecialK, hey |
| 05:41.18 | xbmodder_lappy | I haven't used oscar for a long time |
| 05:41.27 | xbmodder_lappy | AIM |
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| 05:49.12 | xbmodder_lappy | Anyone here learning spanish? |
| 05:49.31 | Hhhhh | I know spanish |
| 05:49.33 | Hhhhh | ;) |
| 05:49.39 | Hhhhh | my wife is |
| 05:49.39 | linuxalien | pinche cabron! |
| 05:50.03 | Hhhhh | I mean, my wife is learning Spanish, I speak it natively |
| 05:50.14 | Hhhhh | English runs in a VM on me |
| 05:50.22 | Hhhhh | but Spanish is run natively |
| 05:50.27 | linuxalien | Cool |
| 05:50.31 | Hhhhh | heh |
| 05:50.33 | elg | ah, so your name is silent |
| 05:50.37 | linuxalien | Mi madre es de la Ciudad de Mexico, D.F. |
| 05:50.40 | Hhhhh | "Hhhhh but Spanish is run natively" <= WTF? |
| 05:50.49 | Hhhhh | I think my VM is broken :( |
| 05:51.16 | Hhhhh | yo soy de Santiago, Chile |
| 05:51.19 | xbmodder_lappy | your mom is of the city of mexico D.F? |
| 05:51.26 | Hhhhh | is FROM |
| 05:51.34 | xbmodder_lappy | I am from Santiago, Chile |
| 05:51.35 | Hhhhh | lol |
| 05:51.35 | xbmodder_lappy | Yay |
| 05:51.36 | linuxalien | Yuppers |
| 05:51.40 | xbmodder_lappy | Hhhhh, stay that simple! |
| 05:51.45 | xbmodder_lappy | mexico D.F.? |
| 05:51.54 | Hhhhh | Mexico Federal District |
| 05:52.16 | xbmodder_lappy | Me gusta linux. No me gusta el espanol. |
| 05:52.18 | Hhhhh | similar concept to District of Columbia |
| 05:52.29 | Hhhhh | hmm |
| 05:52.32 | xbmodder_lappy | Tu hablas espanol? |
| 05:52.37 | Hhhhh | you gotta switch your keyboard to Spanish |
| 05:52.41 | xbmodder_lappy | How? |
| 05:52.56 | Hhhhh | so that you can do the ñ!! |
| 05:53.02 | linuxalien | I'm too lazy to do that. I try reading Terra.com and don't even do that. |
| 05:53.03 | Hhhhh | hmm |
| 05:53.05 | Hhhhh | I dunno |
| 05:53.32 | Hhhhh | I have it setup so that I do Alt+Shift and switched between Spanish and English |
| 05:53.32 | xbmodder_lappy | Que es Terra.com? |
| 05:53.38 | Hhhhh | heh, in Windows XP |
| 05:53.43 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 05:53.45 | Hhhhh | haven't tried in Linus yet |
| 05:54.18 | linuxalien | terra.com is like yahoo.com sorta but all in Spanish I think it's affiliated with some latino tv channels and you get free email there too |
| 05:54.21 | linuxalien | They also have chat |
| 05:55.22 | Hhhhh | Web-based chat is not cool though |
| 05:55.27 | Hhhhh | not as 1337 as IRC |
| 05:55.30 | Hhhhh | right? |
| 05:55.46 | xbmodder_lappy | is there like a character inserter? |
| 05:55.50 | xbmodder_lappy | for gnome? |
| 05:55.57 | linuxalien | hehehe Well, it's good for meeting people but web based is not as fun sometimes |
| 05:57.01 | Hhhhh | hmm, time for me to reformat the hard drive and reinstall windows :( |
| 05:57.24 | Hhhhh | and wait for SUSE 10.1 final |
| 05:57.31 | findlay | xbmodder_lappy: gnome-character-map |
| 05:57.55 | linuxalien | Is it gonna be pretty good Hhhhh ? |
| 05:57.56 | findlay | or did you mean, like perhaps, Hamlet? |
| 05:58.00 | xbmodder_lappy | lappy ~ # eix gnome-cha |
| 05:58.00 | xbmodder_lappy | Found 0 matches |
| 05:58.02 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 05:58.12 | Hhhhh | linuxalien, I'm impressed with SUSE 10.0 |
| 05:58.27 | Hhhhh | linuxalien, they're really cleaned up most of the gotchas in 9.x |
| 05:58.37 | linuxalien | Hhhhh, I had OpenSuSE 10.0 and right now I'm trying Kubuntu 5.10 |
| 05:58.47 | Hhhhh | and the x86_64 version is 100x more stable than Fedora 64 bit |
| 05:58.58 | xbmodder_lappy | debian? |
| 05:58.59 | Hhhhh | how do you like Kubuntu? |
| 05:59.01 | linuxalien | yeah, SuSE tends to be stable |
| 05:59.06 | xbmodder_lappy | plain vanilla debian? |
| 05:59.08 | Hhhhh | I installed it in my laptop and it was a little screwy |
| 05:59.21 | linuxalien | Hhhhh, It's nice. Partitioning was a breeze and everything works right on my desktop. |
| 05:59.35 | Hhhhh | cool |
| 05:59.35 | linuxalien | Hhhhh, if it goes wacky on me, I'm installing Ubuntu |
| 05:59.43 | Hhhhh | I can't stand GNOME |
| 05:59.46 | linuxalien | xbmodder_lappy, I never could get Debian to work |
| 05:59.53 | Hhhhh | sorry, I'm not trying to start a desktop flame war |
| 05:59.58 | linuxalien | You can install KDE in Ubuntu I hear |
| 06:00.06 | Hhhhh | it's just that GNOME and I aren't a good match |
| 06:00.15 | Hhhhh | KDE + Ubuntu = Kubuntu |
| 06:00.26 | findlay | flame!!@!1 |
| 06:00.29 | findlay | ~flame |
| 06:00.30 | ibot | hmm... flame is something people do on newsgroups or irc or when they yell at each other |
| 06:00.30 | Hhhhh | just doing apt-get install kubuntu-desktop |
| 06:00.46 | findlay | ~roast flame |
| 06:00.58 | Hhhhh | ~lart flame |
| 06:01.05 | Hhhhh | ~rlart |
| 06:01.06 | linuxalien | well, since kubuntu is stable on my system, I'll keep it until it does something really strange |
| 06:01.33 | Hhhhh | I've had a very pleasant experience with SUSE 10.0, I think I'll stick to SUSE for a while |
| 06:01.52 | Hhhhh | and it has some sentimental value too, since I worked at Novell for a while |
| 06:02.46 | linuxalien | Hhhhh, I used Novell since I lived in Utah and cuz it was stable. |
| 06:03.25 | xbmodder_lappy | since you lived in utah? |
| 06:08.40 | linuxalien | Because I live in Utah |
| 06:08.42 | linuxalien | I'ts late |
| 06:08.44 | linuxalien | It's |
| 06:08.48 | linuxalien | and the caffiene is wearing off |
| 06:08.54 | QBFreak | tag, you're it! |
| 06:09.44 | Hhhhh | tag? |
| 06:12.58 | Supaplex | <it> |
| 06:14.06 | Supaplex | nite |
| 06:14.21 | QBFreak | wusses! all of you! |
| 06:14.43 | Supaplex | we'll see who's the wus come 630am |
| 06:17.46 | linuxalien | haha |
| 06:17.51 | linuxalien | I'm gonna get some sleep |
| 06:17.58 | QBFreak | I'll be awake at 6:30am |
| 06:18.01 | QBFreak | ...still |
| 06:18.20 | Supaplex | but not alert |
| 06:18.59 | linuxalien | Goodnight all |
| 06:26.38 | Supaplex | take care |
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| 06:41.38 | fozzmoo | error: 'GString' was not declared in this scope |
| 06:41.44 | fozzmoo | That's all I have to say. |
| 06:48.11 | Hhhhh | GString? |
| 06:48.14 | Hhhhh | GTK? |
| 06:54.24 | xbmodder_lappy | what app? |
| 07:06.32 | fozzmoo | Oh you guys are pathetic. |
| 07:08.01 | xbmodder_lappy | ? |
| 07:08.07 | xbmodder_lappy | What? |
| 07:08.19 | xbmodder_lappy | heh |
| 07:36.55 | Hhhhh | pathetic? |
| 07:36.57 | Hhhhh | meh |
| 07:37.07 | Hhhhh | that's the kind of people who use GTK |
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| 07:42.46 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath_, hey |
| 07:42.53 | xbmodder_lappy | hiya |
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| 12:41.40 | mheath_ | Good morning. |
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| 13:29.05 | goozbach | morning |
| 13:29.05 | goozbach | looks like that lasted long |
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| 13:34.10 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.16 | goozbach | :) |
| 13:34.32 | Jayce^ | riiight |
| 13:34.37 | Jayce^ | you know I can take you out :) |
| 13:34.57 | Jayce^ | did I tell you I finally picked up an a5? |
| 13:42.39 | goozbach | ~grenade Jayce^ |
| 13:44.26 | Jayce^ | ~frag goozbach |
| 13:44.27 | ibot | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at goozbach |
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| 13:49.36 | goozbach | ~travolta Jayce^ |
| 13:49.37 | ibot | ACTION replaces Jayce^ with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
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| 13:57.20 | goozbach | herlo: when you start at guru? |
| 13:57.26 | herlo | Monday |
| 13:57.29 | goozbach | cool |
| 13:57.36 | goozbach | congrats and the like |
| 13:58.06 | goozbach | I noticed you didn't connect from gurulabs :) so I knew you hadn't started yet |
| 13:58.10 | herlo | thanks goozbach, I'll be having a good time filling your shoes |
| 13:58.29 | herlo | yeah, I am actually in Ohio this week |
| 13:58.49 | herlo | finishing up my tenure on-the-road |
| 14:01.01 | goozbach | just to start it again :) |
| 14:01.14 | herlo | yep, better job, different day |
| 14:04.39 | ^Migs^ | what actually goes on at gurulabs? |
| 14:04.48 | herlo | we guru |
| 14:04.51 | herlo | :-D |
| 14:04.58 | ^Migs^ | so you really have no idea? |
| 14:05.25 | herlo | http://www.gurulabs.com/courseware/ http://www.gurulabs.com/training/ |
| 14:05.26 | brac | [Guru Labs] |
| 14:05.39 | ^Migs^ | so people go there to be trained, or you go on-site to train others? |
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| 14:06.04 | herlo | ^Migs^: yes, mostly we train linux courses including RHCE and Security |
| 14:06.10 | emcnabb | people do take classes there, but we travel around the country teaching courses |
| 14:06.19 | ^Migs^ | cool |
| 14:06.35 | emcnabb | we also sell a lot of high quality training manuals (they are the best out there, hands down) |
| 14:06.37 | goozbach | ^Migs^: both |
| 14:06.38 | herlo | plus we publish manuals, right emcnabb |
| 14:06.46 | ^Migs^ | looks pricey |
| 14:06.54 | ^Migs^ | how would I know I'm getting a quality instructor? |
| 14:06.55 | goozbach | more than worth the money |
| 14:07.00 | goozbach | it's a guru |
| 14:07.33 | goozbach | best instructors in the country, best courseware in the world |
| 14:07.37 | herlo | ^Migs^: from what I have read, the manuals are very thorough, nothing in there that has been incorrect so far, can't imagine there's much if any |
| 14:07.57 | goozbach | if there is, it's not there for long |
| 14:08.09 | goozbach | things are kept pretty up to date |
| 14:08.10 | herlo | I've read about 100pgs of the GL250 course |
| 14:08.15 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: everyone who works there really knows their stuff |
| 14:08.49 | ^Migs^ | very cool |
| 14:08.58 | ^Migs^ | I'm really a Linux noob |
| 14:09.05 | goozbach | nothing quite like that first sip of Pepsi in the morning |
| 14:09.06 | ^Migs^ | it's rather unfortunate |
| 14:09.29 | ^Migs^ | <3 <3 <3 Pepsi Lime <3 <3 <3 |
| 14:09.42 | herlo | No Pepsi for you herlo |
| 14:09.49 | herlo | you must suffer with water!!! |
| 14:10.27 | herlo | sometimes in the second... |
| 14:10.38 | bonez41 | anyone know the command, using konqueror...to browse a remote system? |
| 14:11.38 | bonez41 | wait..that sounded dumb....with konqueror...it allows you to surf the file system on a remote computer..not just the published web pages... |
| 14:11.58 | ^Migs^ | explaining it to yourself isn't helping it sound less dumb |
| 14:12.17 | bonez41 | ^Migs^, ok, so I am dumb this morning.... |
| 14:12.29 | ^Migs^ | I have that moment every morning |
| 14:12.56 | bonez41 | still.....I guess you aren't familiar with this unique feature of konqueror? |
| 14:14.18 | Jayce^ | bonez41, using fish: for example |
| 14:15.06 | bonez41 | Jayce^, fish:? |
| 14:15.24 | bonez41 | sounds 'fishy' to me... |
| 14:15.48 | Jayce^ | bonez41, that's the protocol you usually use for that, ssh stuff |
| 14:16.08 | bonez41 | no, it's a command, just unique to konqueror...which allows you, with proper ID and pass..to browse a remote hard drive..or system, as if their in person....over the web |
| 14:16.16 | bonez41 | oh, ok... |
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| 14:17.22 | bonez41 | Jayce^, ok, that got me further...my password there..seems to be not working..can I log in as root that way too? |
| 14:18.13 | Jayce^ | only if your box allows root ssh |
| 14:18.30 | bonez41 | well, that doesn't work either.....neither user nor root with pass allows me in...somethings tweaked there |
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| 14:34.17 | goozbach | horray for power outages |
| 14:35.45 | atoponce | bonez41: sftp:// |
| 14:42.48 | elg | ~seen levi |
| 14:42.51 | ibot | levi <n=levi@levi.dsl.xmission.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 9h 6m 37s ago, saying: 'Smile.'. |
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| 15:02.53 | elg | -roulette |
| 15:02.53 | brac | elg: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 15:06.12 | elg | -rps rock |
| 15:06.12 | brac | paper! I win! |
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| 15:24.03 | sjansen | ~rlart |
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| 15:35.50 | goozbach | blargooblarg |
| 15:36.36 | obfuscated | same here |
| 15:37.04 | tensai | -rps rock |
| 15:37.04 | brac | scissors. You win. |
| 15:41.57 | sjansen | ~beat brac |
| 15:41.58 | ibot | ACTION beats brac with a wetfish |
| 15:43.29 | elg | osx users, texshop is pretty nifty |
| 15:43.41 | elg | even for a vim diehard |
| 15:43.53 | lars-ut | mpeg 2 video editor recommendation? |
| 15:44.08 | elg | dry erase on tv screen |
| 15:45.01 | lars-ut | all I need is basic trimming & combining of clips |
| 15:45.53 | herlo | This is pretty cool: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn9059&feedId=online-news_rss20 |
| 15:45.55 | brac | [New Scientist Breaking News - Invention: Apple's all-seeing screen] |
| 15:47.13 | tensai | lars-ut: if you find one, let me know |
| 15:50.17 | lars-ut | tensai: looking at this for the first time http://lives.sourceforge.net/index.php |
| 15:50.18 | brac | [LiVES Video Editing System - Because the media should be open] |
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| 15:53.36 | tensai | lars-ut: interesting. hadn't seen that one. haven't actually looked in the last 2 years or so. I used cinelerra for a few things, but it's goofy. The mjpegtools are cryptic at best. |
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| 15:57.58 | lars-ut | http://dynebolic.dyne.org/index.php?show=features |
| 16:00.01 | lars-ut | [d y n e : b o l i c -- a free multimedia studio in a GNU/Linux live CD] |
| 16:00.47 | Ash | excelsior!!!!! |
| 16:03.44 | herlo | lars-ut: herlo like |
| 16:05.43 | herlo | with sugar on top |
| 16:06.27 | lars-ut | herlo_: aure - I'll queue it on your home bw & have it burned for your before you get back |
| 16:06.33 | lars-ut | s/aure/sure |
| 16:06.35 | lars-ut | azure |
| 16:07.05 | lars-ut | s/your/u |
| 16:07.28 | lars-ut | s/lars-ut/someonethatcantype |
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| 16:12.50 | levi | Wassup, #utah? |
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| 16:15.22 | herlo | holalevi |
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| 16:21.13 | elg | -lart levi |
| 16:21.29 | levi | ~lart elg |
| 16:22.01 | levi | Hmm, what's worse, lawyers or SA photoshoppers? |
| 16:22.55 | ^Migs^ | SA photoshopper law school students |
| 16:24.33 | Ash | it is good that SA photoshoppers exist |
| 16:24.38 | Ash | because they can sometimes be really amusing |
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| 16:26.00 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 16:26.05 | sjansen | ~hug rlart |
| 16:26.06 | ibot | ACTION hugs rlart |
| 16:29.42 | sjansen | Odd, I got 8 hours of sleep last night, yet I feel like I got closer to 5. |
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| 16:37.28 | lars-ut | sjansen: were you the only one in the bed? |
| 16:37.50 | harleypig | sketchup.google.com! |
| 16:37.55 | spr | Has anyone ever seen anything packaged as a .ace before? |
| 16:38.46 | Supaplex | yup |
| 16:38.58 | harleypig | spr: usually on stuff distributed on usenet. |
| 16:39.01 | spr | So what do you use to get it open? |
| 16:39.19 | Supaplex | unace |
| 16:39.30 | harleypig | unace |
| 16:39.33 | harleypig | heh |
| 16:39.41 | spr | figures. |
| 16:39.46 | Supaplex | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Archive_formats |
| 16:39.48 | harleypig | later versions of rar can handle it too. |
| 16:41.16 | lars-ut | sjansen: next time make sure all electronic storage devices & books are on the nightstand before slumber |
| 16:41.46 | lars-ut | .ace? Reminds me of downloading iso images off usenet many moons ago |
| 16:43.41 | sjansen | ~invoke goozbach |
| 16:43.49 | sjansen | ~pester goozbach |
| 16:43.51 | ibot | goozbach: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
| 16:43.59 | sjansen | ~question goozbach |
| 16:44.03 | sjansen | ~interrogate goozbach |
| 16:44.09 | sjansen | ~ping goozbach |
| 16:44.11 | ibot | pong goozbach |
| 16:44.11 | maquis | -lart sjansen |
| 16:44.32 | sjansen | ~slap maquis |
| 16:44.33 | ibot | ACTION slaps maquis, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 16:46.03 | sjansen | http://www.pantheon.org/articles/a/alvis.html <-- Would you name _your_ daughter Thrud? |
| 16:46.05 | brac | [Alvis] |
| 16:51.47 | elg | if I were a dwarf, perhaps |
| 16:57.34 | tensai | anybody know how RSA SecurIDs work and can sum it up for me? |
| 16:58.37 | jsmith | Are those the little hardware tokens with the little LCD screen? |
| 17:03.10 | tensai | yes |
| 17:03.29 | tensai | has a 6 digit number that changes every 60 seconds |
| 17:03.32 | goozbach | sjansen: popng |
| 17:03.38 | goozbach | er pong |
| 17:04.03 | sjansen | goozbach: I seem to remember that you discovered a cool javascript based terminal. What was it called? |
| 17:04.37 | tensai | I compared 2 that are used for the same system and they had different numbers, so the number is unique to the token |
| 17:04.47 | jsmith | tensai: Yes. |
| 17:05.06 | TheDiff | :o |
| 17:05.19 | levi | sjansen: Who's going to make fun of the daughter of Thor? |
| 17:05.20 | sjansen | tensai: Define "how it works"? Basically, the number constantly changes in known but random way. To authenticate, you have to have physical access to it and provide the number it displays. |
| 17:05.33 | goozbach | sjansen: anyterm |
| 17:06.05 | goozbach | sjansen: maybe I'll finish building that rpm package I started back then |
| 17:06.07 | tensai | sjansen: I'm wondering how the number changes in a known but random way. is it a pseudo-random sequence known to both sides? is it based on low frequency radio signals? |
| 17:06.13 | goozbach | give me a week or so |
| 17:10.17 | sjansen | That I don't know. I'm guess it's gotta be a pseudo-random number generator. |
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| 17:15.19 | Supaplex | 42 |
| 17:19.20 | jsmith | tensai: It's based on a mathematical algorythm that only RSA knows, as far as I've been told |
| 17:20.09 | elg | yum, obscurity by security |
| 17:20.25 | jsmith | Of course... |
| 17:20.42 | jsmith | If it wasn't obscure, then how would it work ;-) |
| 17:32.15 | findlay | because no hacker is going to bother waiting for yum to thoughtfully search through all it's repos |
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| 17:37.55 | elg | ~uart |
| 17:37.57 | ibot | methinks uart is universal asynch rec/transmitter? |
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| 18:12.04 | tensai | http://www.linuxsecurity.com/resource_files/cryptography/initial_securid_analysis.pdf |
| 18:12.23 | tensai | it's a hash of the time and a 64 bit secret |
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| 18:42.34 | goozbach | I blame canada |
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| 18:47.35 | jsmith | goozbach: Me too... such an unfriendly neighbor, aren't they? |
| 18:47.57 | jsmith | goozbach: They claim to have a "free trade" agreement with us, but have you actually tried to get anything across the border? |
| 18:53.04 | goozbach | I once tried to go there for a week |
| 18:53.24 | goozbach | I got held up at imigration for over an hour |
| 18:53.32 | goozbach | it was for a redhat class |
| 18:54.19 | jsmith | goozbach: I've got the opposite problem... one of my fellow trainers can't come down here to help me train. |
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| 19:13.56 | elg | -lart goozbach |
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| 19:16.54 | goozbach | ~funkybomb elg |
| 19:16.55 | ibot | ACTION blows away elg in a psychedelic flash |
| 19:19.23 | elg | -roulette |
| 19:19.24 | brac | elg: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 19:19.41 | ^Migs^ | http://www.rewiredmind.com/news/revolutiongetsanewname |
| 19:19.42 | brac | [Revolution becomes Nintendo Wii! - RewiredMind.com Gaming News] |
| 19:21.41 | elg | Wii. how exciting |
| 19:22.16 | elg | sounds like the marketing department got to choose the name. "hey, if we use a homonym for 'we', we can make lots of fuzzy feel-good puns in our ads" |
| 19:22.49 | ^Migs^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.51 | ^Migs^ | oops |
| 19:23.00 | elg | hahaha |
| 19:23.03 | elg | you have to write java |
| 19:23.04 | ^Migs^ | I wonder who got paid heaploads of money to come up with that name |
| 19:23.29 | elg | "ahem, excuse me amigos, but I have to go wii" |
| 19:24.52 | ^Migs^ | I like the comment "Nintendo is going to piss all over the competition" |
| 19:37.56 | dilvie_ | hello |
| 19:41.04 | elg | ~praise dilvie_ |
| 19:41.06 | ibot | All hail dilvie_! |
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| 19:42.23 | levi | Woo, back from my lunch bike ride. |
| 19:45.09 | harleypig | I miss my old friends; Jack, Jim, and Johnny. |
| 19:45.21 | harleypig | Jack Daniels, Jim Beam and Johnny Walker |
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| 19:51.40 | levi | tewk: Heya. |
| 19:52.38 | tewk | Hey, Thanks for your comments, It got me straightened out. |
| 19:53.43 | ^Migs^ | you're welcome |
| 19:53.49 | levi | No problem. I enjoy opportunities to talk about lispy stuff. :) |
| 19:53.58 | Jayce^ | tewk, you going to give a hackergotchi for the site? |
| 19:54.18 | dataw0lf | aww, I missed lisp? |
| 19:54.33 | dataw0lf | anyone used Expect with Windows before? |
| 19:56.16 | levi | tewk: I saw your comments on #scheme and wanted to see if you were indeed the same tewk I'd left blog comments to. |
| 19:56.54 | tewk | Yep |
| 19:57.31 | levi | How's your Scheme project coming? |
| 19:58.24 | xbmodder_lappy | Anyone know how to get Lenovo notebooks without an OS? |
| 20:00.06 | Ash | can't you order them with linux preinstalled? |
| 20:00.30 | tewk | It's starting to work. I'm learning a lot by writing an interpreter for a large language. |
| 20:00.36 | xbmodder_lappy | Ash, According to the representative its not available unless you have a contract |
| 20:00.57 | Ash | xbmodder_lappy: eww, that stinks. |
| 20:01.07 | Ash | I'd order it with whatever the cheapest windows option is then. |
| 20:01.12 | Ash | usuall.. xp home? |
| 20:01.15 | Ash | +y |
| 20:01.16 | levi | tewk: I was actually doing something like what you asked about in Common Lisp, until I realized I was being stupid and used CLOS multi-dispatch instead. (Not to imply that your approach is stupid; just that mine was.) |
| 20:01.33 | xbmodder_lappy | Ash, they make your get XP home because of the intel duo :-( |
| 20:01.36 | xbmodder_lappy | *pro |
| 20:01.51 | Ash | ah |
| 20:01.53 | Ash | well, no worries |
| 20:01.58 | sjansen | Wii?! |
| 20:02.01 | levi | Well, then you can dual-boot! |
| 20:02.06 | Ash | having an extra copy of xp pro around is always nice |
| 20:02.20 | levi | Or run Xen and have them running simultaneously. |
| 20:02.32 | Ash | yeah; does ibm sell those with VT enabled? |
| 20:02.37 | dataw0lf | or install it on a usb key and carry it around on your key chain! |
| 20:02.37 | sjansen | What, the marketing company that created New Coke has designed to branch out into the IT market, resulting in such brands as Nintendo Wii and Intel Viiv? |
| 20:02.42 | goozbach | new laptop suggestions? |
| 20:03.14 | Ash | goozbach: 17" Macbook |
| 20:03.21 | dataw0lf | ick |
| 20:03.24 | dataw0lf | toshiba satellite |
| 20:03.25 | Ash | sjansen: they like double i's |
| 20:03.31 | levi | Mmmm, 17" Macbook Pro. |
| 20:03.36 | Ash | you're saying ick to a macbook and then suggesting a toshiba? |
| 20:03.44 | dataw0lf | that's correct. |
| 20:03.55 | dataw0lf | you couldn't pay me to use a mac. |
| 20:03.57 | Ash | very classy |
| 20:04.05 | Ash | OMG MACS R TEH EVAL!@#%!@#%!@111 |
| 20:04.13 | dataw0lf | *shrug* just offered my opinion. |
| 20:04.24 | elg | teh eval. heh. |
| 20:04.41 | dataw0lf | eval('macs = sux0r'); |
| 20:04.42 | dataw0lf | True |
| 20:04.48 | xbmodder_lappy | Ash, the T60 has it enabled |
| 20:04.49 | dataw0lf | err == |
| 20:04.52 | Ash | xbmodder_lappy: cool! |
| 20:04.58 | xbmodder_lappy | what do you guys think is better T60 or X60s |
| 20:05.08 | Ash | xbmodder_lappy: depends on if you need screen real estate |
| 20:05.15 | elg | goozbach: I enjoy my ibook, both in linux and osx. I reckon a macbook would be at least as enjoyable |
| 20:05.17 | Ash | you can get a 1600x1200 display on the t60 |
| 20:05.32 | levi | goozbach: I also enjoy my iBook. |
| 20:05.32 | Ash | elg: the macbooks are quite a bit more enjoyable since they're actually fast |
| 20:05.34 | Ash | :) |
| 20:05.45 | dataw0lf | (for a mac) |
| 20:05.57 | elg | fast is so hard to pin down |
| 20:06.05 | dataw0lf | indeed. |
| 20:06.16 | elg | and hardly the most relevant benchmark, for me. |
| 20:06.25 | levi | My iBook, at least, suffers from some build quality issues, but nothing too annoying. Not unexpected at the price I paid. |
| 20:06.25 | dataw0lf | I agree. |
| 20:06.33 | Ash | the more relevant benchmark to me is productivity |
| 20:06.35 | elg | A lot of things make a lot more difference than "fast" |
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| 20:06.40 | Ash | and that really shoots up with all the mac apps |
| 20:06.54 | dataw0lf | Ash: I think that shoots up with your opinion and usage of the system itself. |
| 20:07.02 | Ash | having excellent-quality commercial software makes a big difference |
| 20:07.07 | dataw0lf | The system doesn't have much to do with your productivity, except for in extreme cases. |
| 20:07.10 | xbmodder_lappy | Ash, the T60 I want is $$$ |
| 20:07.20 | Ash | dataw0lf: the applications *do* make a difference, however. |
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| 20:07.28 | dataw0lf | Ash: what applications? |
| 20:07.41 | Ash | dataw0lf: there's a huge list |
| 20:07.44 | elg | I dropped my open ibook on the asphault from 4 feet up |
| 20:07.56 | dataw0lf | I'm just wondering exactly what your Mac offers in terms of applications that would increase my productivity. |
| 20:08.01 | levi | elg: Yow! |
| 20:08.04 | dataw0lf | If you can find AutoCAD Map 3D on a Mac, I'll bite. |
| 20:08.05 | optikal | woah |
| 20:08.08 | dataw0lf | otherwise |
| 20:08.08 | elg | aside from a little bit of embedded asphault in the cover, it's fine |
| 20:08.12 | optikal | dataw0lf: And did you get my PMs? |
| 20:08.15 | dataw0lf | I'm probably going to lose alot of productivity |
| 20:08.23 | dataw0lf | optikal: Nope. |
| 20:08.36 | elg | I was dang scared and wishing I had bought the extended warranty for a few minutes |
| 20:08.39 | optikal | dataw0lf: You've become the hardest person in existance to get ahold of or a message across to. |
| 20:08.48 | Ash | elg: yeah, the ibooks are troopers |
| 20:08.49 | dataw0lf | it's called work and a semi girlfriend. |
| 20:09.02 | elg | you have a semi for a girlfriend? |
| 20:09.17 | dataw0lf | a Mack, in fact. |
| 20:09.18 | optikal | dataw0lf: I need to know if were doing the limo thing or not, we'll need to put the cash down like _asap_ and Ill have a grand total very shortly. |
| 20:09.18 | Ash | optimus prime |
| 20:09.33 | tensai | or is she only half female? |
| 20:09.33 | levi | elg: Mine doesn't sit entirely flat, some of the seams are a bit uneven, and the trackpad kind of bows up a little in the middle. |
| 20:09.39 | dataw0lf | optikal: I had to pay my sister's rent this month, I'm strapped on cash. But let me get it together. I'll call you tonight. |
| 20:09.48 | optikal | Okay |
| 20:10.04 | optikal | And wtf are you doing in here? heh |
| 20:10.07 | levi | elg: Nothing serious, and nothing that really effects usability, but minor build quality issues for the case. |
| 20:10.09 | optikal | When did you join up? |
| 20:10.14 | elg | levi: that's too bad |
| 20:10.14 | optikal | err wait |
| 20:10.18 | elg | did you get it for way cheap though? |
| 20:10.20 | dataw0lf | thirty minutes ago or so. |
| 20:10.25 | dataw0lf | elg: my girlfriend? Oh yea. |
| 20:10.26 | dataw0lf | ... |
| 20:10.49 | elg | levi's ibook. Macks don't come cheap |
| 20:10.50 | levi | elg: I got it at the education discount price, which was < $1000 and included an iPod Shuffle. |
| 20:10.58 | dataw0lf | elg: :D |
| 20:11.17 | dataw0lf | lars-ut: you around? |
| 20:11.22 | elg | but it wasn't discounted for the quality issues? |
| 20:11.35 | levi | elg: Nope. |
| 20:11.39 | elg | what's a perpendicular drive? |
| 20:11.48 | elg | that stinks. they wouldn't replace it? |
| 20:11.55 | levi | I didn't try. |
| 20:11.56 | dataw0lf | new laptop technology. |
| 20:12.02 | levi | Didn't even notice most of them for a while. |
| 20:12.28 | elg | the one thing that bugs me about my ibook is how easily the battery latch can come undone |
| 20:12.30 | dataw0lf | elg: the magnetic bits on the hard drive are stored perpendicularlly |
| 20:12.33 | sjansen | IP enabled toothbrushes! I'm going to be rich!!!!1 |
| 20:12.42 | elg | ~brush sjansen |
| 20:12.48 | dataw0lf | elg: allows you to store more |
| 20:12.58 | levi | elg: Mine came undone a couple of times early on, but since then it's been fine. |
| 20:13.06 | dataw0lf | so my sub standard Toshiba laptop has a 200 gig hard drive. |
| 20:13.23 | dataw0lf | :D |
| 20:13.27 | elg | it generally happens when it's been in my bag and something about that wiggles it loose |
| 20:13.35 | dataw0lf | and I'm selling one to lars-ut for very, very cheap. |
| 20:13.52 | elg | so long as I remember to check it when taking it out of my bag, it's alright |
| 20:17.34 | goozbach | hmm the new powermac |
| 20:17.45 | goozbach | or macbook power or whatever |
| 20:18.26 | Jayce^ | neybar just got one of those |
| 20:19.39 | goozbach | intel duo |
| 20:19.42 | goozbach | tasty |
| 20:20.09 | goozbach | I wonder if the 17" is too big |
| 20:20.26 | elg | me, I like my laptop small. otherwise what's the point? |
| 20:21.23 | goozbach | I'm a big-handed fool |
| 20:21.31 | goozbach | so I need to have a decent keyboard |
| 20:21.44 | elg | bigger-handed than I? |
| 20:21.49 | goozbach | but I don't want a laptop that's too big |
| 20:21.55 | levi | All the Apple laptops have the same-sized keyboard, AFAIK. |
| 20:22.07 | elg | and it's standard size I think |
| 20:22.14 | goozbach | maybe the 15" then |
| 20:22.14 | goozbach | hmmm |
| 20:22.15 | elg | at least I don't have any trouble fat-fingering things |
| 20:22.34 | xbmodder_lappy | Would someone tell me why 14.1" is more expensive than 15" |
| 20:22.42 | elg | it's the decimal |
| 20:22.53 | elg | floats are more complicated than ints |
| 20:23.08 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: Just to confuse you. |
| 20:23.22 | xbmodder_lappy | Why do people DDoS me? |
| 20:24.01 | xbmodder_lappy | actually, don't answer that |
| 20:24.01 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: Because they don't like you and they are jerks. |
| 20:25.57 | xbmodder_lappy | ICMP traffic is IPv4 right, if so, I am being pumped with 180 kb/s of ICMP traffic |
| 20:26.41 | levi | Perhaps a ping flood. |
| 20:26.53 | xbmodder_lappy | seems like it |
| 20:26.56 | xbmodder_lappy | 10-20 hosts |
| 20:29.11 | dataw0lf | so drop icmp |
| 20:30.22 | levi | That only solves part of the problem. |
| 20:31.35 | levi | The real solution is to triangulate the perpetrator's position and nuke him from orbit. |
| 20:31.55 | xbmodder_lappy | dataw0lf, I just did... |
| 20:32.04 | xbmodder_lappy | dataw0lf, incoming traffic is annoying |
| 20:32.04 | levi | That, or report abuse to the relevant ISPs. |
| 20:32.23 | xbmodder_lappy | I might call my ISP to get ICMP blocked at the NOC |
| 20:33.14 | dataw0lf | xbmodder_lappy: -j to log before dropping and wait a day, then report all the relevant isps |
| 20:33.39 | xbmodder_lappy | and SSH floods... |
| 20:39.43 | neybar | goozbach: I love the 15 macbook |
| 20:39.51 | dataw0lf | limit new ssh connections, xbmodder_lappy |
| 20:40.06 | Jayce^ | so, I have a new box that'll become the PLUG (and all the other gropus that host on it) box... |
| 20:40.09 | Jayce^ | need name ideas |
| 20:40.18 | Jayce^ | orodruin is the current box |
| 20:40.21 | xbmodder_lappy | So much TCP traffic!!! |
| 20:40.31 | xbmodder_lappy | so little bandwidth |
| 20:40.34 | Jayce^ | previous ones were naboo and coruscant |
| 20:40.48 | Jayce^ | that is, if this box works fully :) |
| 20:41.06 | dataw0lf | Jayce^: Azanulbizar |
| 20:41.35 | dataw0lf | or for the SW theme, kashyyyk |
| 20:41.58 | Jayce^ | nah, SW theme was because of Mike.... |
| 20:42.02 | Jayce^ | we've moved on :) |
| 20:42.15 | Jayce^ | wow, I actually had to look up the first... that is a nice abstract one |
| 20:42.27 | dataw0lf | fornost isn't too bad either |
| 20:42.30 | dataw0lf | :D |
| 20:43.14 | dataw0lf | azanulbizar is just easily misspelled, don't know if that goes into your decision. |
| 20:43.39 | Jayce^ | yeah, that's an issue |
| 20:43.49 | Jayce^ | fornost is good too 'seat of kings' |
| 20:44.07 | Jayce^ | that went along with why the current box got it's name :) |
| 20:44.09 | dataw0lf | used it for my first web server when I was a kid. |
| 20:44.45 | QBFreak | anyone know if freenode has policies on bots? I had one running for a while and now I can't get it to connect properly |
| 20:46.08 | xbmodder_lappy | is this normal within a period of about 30 seconds: |
| 20:46.09 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.09 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.55 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.32 | xbmodder_lappy | why hasn't SBC's fiber hit me yet? |
| 20:56.13 | levi | Woo, the web has hit another minor revision number! http://cheese.blartwendo.com/web21-demo.html |
| 20:56.14 | brac | [Web 2.1 server-side blink tag demonstration] |
| 20:56.45 | dataw0lf | (drumroll in the background) |
| 20:58.05 | dataw0lf | thunder... thunder... thunder... thundercats... hooooooooooooooooo! |
| 20:59.10 | ^Migs^ | http://dataw0lf.youaremighty.com/ |
| 20:59.12 | brac | [Aninote.com - Dataw0lf you are mighty] |
| 21:00.51 | dataw0lf | don't I know it |
| 21:01.36 | levi | "The "standard", non-functional programming languages like Fortran, Ada, and C are the bastard progeny of the coupling between a pseudo-mathematical notation and a von Neumann-style random access memory (RAM). There has never been a simple or particularly effective mathematical model to aid in the deep understanding or compiling of programs in these languages. A modern optimizing Fortran compiler is still a baroque technical tour de force, yet it has |
| 21:01.36 | levi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.43 | levi | -- Henry Baker |
| 21:02.22 | levi | Henry Baker is awesome. |
| 21:03.00 | dataw0lf | levi: nice quote. |
| 21:10.16 | levi | It was from: http://home.pipeline.com/~hbaker1/ForthStack.html |
| 21:10.18 | brac | [ACM Sigarch Comp. Arch. News 22, 1 (Mar 1994), 34-43.] |
| 21:12.24 | dataw0lf | argh |
| 21:12.28 | dataw0lf | was there a Lost episode last night? |
| 21:13.14 | findlay | maybe it's lost? |
| 21:13.53 | findlay | what do you think about jfindlay.us? |
| 21:14.01 | dataw0lf | not helpful |
| 21:14.12 | findlay | it's available, but it sounds really boring |
| 21:15.06 | dataw0lf | how about unfoundlay.us |
| 21:15.09 | dataw0lf | or... |
| 21:15.12 | dataw0lf | lostlay.us! |
| 21:15.28 | findlay | hey, I think you've almost got it! |
| 21:15.47 | levi | dataw0lf: There was, but it was a recap episode. |
| 21:16.05 | levi | dataw0lf: If you've seen the rest of this season, you didn't miss much. |
| 21:16.08 | mheath_ | loselay.us fits ebtter |
| 21:16.19 | findlay | ebtter.us |
| 21:16.38 | findlay | I wonder what that hidden significance that would betoken |
| 21:17.35 | dataw0lf | levi: dang. |
| 21:17.45 | dataw0lf | welp, I'm all caught up then except for episode 7 of the Sopranos. |
| 21:18.00 | findlay | dataw0lf: do you have a PVR? |
| 21:18.33 | mheath_ | Heh, it's going to be weird, being rather unplugged from everything for 3 months. No TV, no internet, not even any news... |
| 21:18.59 | dataw0lf | findlay: yea. |
| 21:19.31 | mheath_ | Going to miss all this TV |
| 21:19.48 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Private message? |
| 21:19.56 | dataw0lf | grub-install --recheck --root-directory=/mnt/build /dev/sdb |
| 21:20.00 | dataw0lf | meh, sorry. |
| 21:20.20 | dataw0lf | findlay: let me know if you need to buy one, I have a spare. |
| 21:20.21 | dataw0lf | jsmith: one sec, I block priv messages |
| 21:20.30 | findlay | dataw0lf: how much? |
| 21:20.55 | mheath_ | findlay, I could sell you one |
| 21:21.01 | mheath_ | FM Radio too |
| 21:34.00 | elg | levi: a very neat quote, but I'm not convinced that this gibberish is better; ['1 roll2 #'ifact1 dup funcall-3]. |
| 21:39.35 | levi | elg: I'm not really either, but I've been told that Forth grows on you with use. |
| 21:40.39 | elg | i like to entertain this notion of not reusing the objects and stuff |
| 21:40.41 | QBFreak | works good in windows though, except for all the computer noise in the signal, need to recable |
| 21:40.54 | elg | but this implementation stuff looks like a real nightmare. |
| 21:41.28 | levi | elg: Some of Henry Baker's other stuff is a bit more interesting. Lots of work on garbage collection and Lisp implementation techniques. |
| 21:42.35 | levi | elg: Like lazy allocation, which puts everything on the stack initially and uses a copying garbage collector to move it if it's still referenced when the stack frame is popped. |
| 21:43.28 | levi | elg: And a method for compiling continuation-passing-style code to C by calling functions without ever returning. |
| 21:44.49 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Unblock private messages yet? |
| 21:44.57 | elg | neat stuff. I'm going to be studying lambdastuff this summer, for quals |
| 21:48.13 | findlay | ~unblock dataw0lf |
| 21:48.58 | elg | there should be a language called fith |
| 21:49.16 | atoponce | findlay: going to school? |
| 21:49.26 | findlay | atoponce: no |
| 21:49.47 | atoponce | heard anything about uvsc cs dept.? |
| 21:50.31 | findlay | levi, decriptor, gabe, jordy, lars-ut would be able to better answer your question |
| 21:50.39 | levi | What about the uvsc cs dept? |
| 21:50.46 | findlay | I've never taken any classes from them |
| 21:51.02 | atoponce | levi: what's is like? |
| 21:51.23 | levi | It's adequate. Some of the classes are really good, some not so much. |
| 21:51.35 | atoponce | how are the profs? |
| 21:51.45 | findlay | I went into the CS office to talk to one of the professors once and the secratary was very rude |
| 21:51.49 | atoponce | and what is the structure like? hands on, or theory? |
| 21:51.52 | levi | I'm taking all evening classes, which tends to give you a higher proportion of poor teachers. |
| 21:51.55 | findlay | she wouldn't even let me go back to his office |
| 21:52.04 | atoponce | interesting |
| 21:52.21 | levi | I've been able to get back to the professors' offices without too much trouble. |
| 21:52.32 | levi | Some of the teachers are great, though. |
| 21:52.55 | atoponce | do they teach a good blanace of *nix and microsoft? |
| 21:52.56 | levi | I've thoroughly enjoyed a couple of classes and thoroughly hated a couple. |
| 21:53.22 | findlay | I had to go through this picket fence to even get into the faculty area. It was nauseating |
| 21:53.52 | levi | Yeah; there's a required unix class, and the OS class has a strong unix flavor. |
| 21:54.01 | levi | It doubles as a Unix/C class. |
| 21:54.22 | levi | At least it does when you get a prof who follows the curriculum. |
| 21:54.33 | atoponce | :) |
| 21:54.47 | atoponce | weber had a unix/c class, and they dropped the unix portion |
| 21:54.53 | xbmodder_lappy | What do you guys think of this idea: Neighborhood based mini-nets |
| 21:55.03 | levi | It's not too theory-heavy, but there is definitely some theory, and the guy who teaches the really theory-heavy stuff is excellent. |
| 21:56.14 | levi | Personally, I would prefer a bit more theory in the curriculum. |
| 21:56.56 | levi | And a little bit faster pace. |
| 21:57.42 | atoponce | cool |
| 21:57.52 | levi | The program is accredited, though, and apparently it's recognized as 'good' by the important organizations or something. |
| 21:58.18 | atoponce | well, that's important. :) at least it isn't a phoenix degree. |
| 21:58.42 | levi | They're planning on adding a Master's Degree at some point, when UVSC becomes UVSU, if that ever happens. |
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| 21:59.11 | atoponce | uvsu. that sounds good |
| 21:59.16 | atoponce | are they just a 4 year? |
| 21:59.25 | levi | Yup, right now. |
| 21:59.32 | levi | And that's a relatively recent development, too. |
| 21:59.56 | levi | Their primary virtue in my eyes is offering almost all the required classes for a CS degree in the evening. :) |
| 22:00.10 | sjansen | There's alot to be said for that. |
| 22:00.37 | levi | Indeed. |
| 22:00.48 | atoponce | levi: that's actually a good selling point, at least for the employed |
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| 22:01.51 | atoponce | like myself |
| 22:01.55 | levi | atoponce: It is, unfortunately, sometimes difficult to get a decent schedule. Each class is only taught occasionally in the evening, and sometimes a couple of them conflict. |
| 22:02.18 | atoponce | and it could take longer than 4 years to get the degree too |
| 22:02.28 | levi | Much longer, if you only do night classes. |
| 22:03.05 | atoponce | cool. i was just curious as a friend is looking at going there, if he can't get into the UofU |
| 22:06.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It's pretty easy to get into the UofU |
| 22:06.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I was admitted, and I was 2 points above the threshold |
| 22:06.32 | atoponce | that's what i've heard, but he says otherwise |
| 22:06.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Just tell him that a guy with a 2.8 GPA and 26 ACT was admitted fine |
| 22:11.49 | atoponce | will do |
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| 22:22.43 | bonez39 | anyone here know about 800 number service...and whether one can Port an exisiting number, linked to one's business to a new 800 service provider? |
| 22:23.52 | mheath_ | bonez39, Not speaking from experience, only my perception, but.....You keep your current local number, and add on an extra 800 number |
| 22:23.57 | Bradipo | If you mean, is it possible to move your 800 number from XO to Qwest, the answer is yes. |
| 22:24.22 | bonez39 | mheath_, my wife has an existing 800 number for her business..it's on everything...cards, letterhead..everywhere..web site.... |
| 22:24.23 | levi | Heh, I just got a Digi-Key catalog. |
| 22:24.50 | bonez39 | she can't lose that number....but her 800 service provider is flaky..I am thinking.....so I want to find out how I can port it over to some other provider who is more reliable.. |
| 22:25.01 | bonez39 | levi, what is digi-key? |
| 22:25.06 | mheath_ | bonez39, ah, like Bradipo said, I'm sure you can move it. |
| 22:25.18 | levi | bonez39: An electronics parts store. |
| 22:25.22 | bonez39 | Bradipo, yeah, moving 800 number, being serviced by XO over to Qwest....OR to some other provider |
| 22:25.28 | levi | The catalog is gigantic. |
| 22:25.37 | levi | Like a large paper brick. |
| 22:25.40 | Bradipo | levi: Hours of entertainment? |
| 22:25.43 | bonez39 | any suggestions for 800 number service providers? |
| 22:25.59 | levi | Bradipo: Actually, I did spend hours browsing through one once. |
| 22:26.15 | levi | It's amazing the kinds of electronic components you can buy. |
| 22:26.43 | levi | All sorts of sensors and logic chips and such. |
| 22:27.01 | levi | Almost makes me wish I was really an EE. |
| 22:27.52 | Bradipo | Their catalog definitely looks geeky. |
| 22:29.03 | mheath_ | This is really old, too |
| 22:29.08 | mheath_ | But still quite relevent, surprisingly |
| 22:29.13 | mheath_ | 1976..... |
| 22:30.39 | mheath_ | Heh |
| 22:30.49 | mheath_ | "Property of: CAPT Frank Heath, AFWL/LRO" |
| 22:30.53 | mheath_ | It *is* old =P |
| 22:31.31 | mheath_ | but, alas, it is time for work. |
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| 22:43.15 | RyanE__ | levi: I have a stack of about 5 digi-key catalogs. Once you're on their list, you're on *forever*... |
| 22:43.34 | RyanE__ | they're really handy for cleaning your soldering iron. :) Get it hot, stuff it between the pages... |
| 22:55.26 | levi | Heh. |
| 22:55.39 | levi | I also get EE Times. |
| 22:55.55 | levi | It comes so often, it ends up being more total paper than Digi-Key after a while. |
| 23:02.00 | RyanE | I get the small maxim-ic monthly product announcements. Like 16 pages, but each in a plastic bag, and tons of them as well. All because I requested some free samples of parts because I had no money to buy them... |
| 23:07.56 | levi | I wouldn't even know what to do with 99% of the stuff in Digi-Key. |
| 23:09.08 | levi | I put together a couple of circuits when I was a pre-teen, but they were on the order of hooking up a buzzer to a battery via a relay. Radio Shack served me just fine for that stuff. |
| 23:11.16 | sjansen | I licked a nine volt when I was a teen. Not sure if it came from Radio Shack, though. |
| 23:11.34 | findlay | I've licked 12 V before |
| 23:12.05 | findlay | and I've been shocked countless times by 120 V ~ |
| 23:16.10 | amcnabb | findlay, On the tongue? |
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| 23:17.14 | findlay | no, fortunately (: |
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| 23:38.40 | findlay | ~cheer |
| 23:38.45 | ibot | shift to the left, unshift to the right, push down, pop up, byte byte byte. |
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| 23:48.49 | flyboy^ | Has anyone here ever gotten linux to handle more than 4096 established TCP connections at once? |
| 23:49.30 | flyboy^ | To the same port. ;) |
| 23:49.54 | flyboy^ | Really, I don't see how it matters. Looks like I can't push it past 4096 for all my effort. |
| 23:51.07 | findlay | find /proc/ | grep -i tcp | grep max might be interesting |
| 23:51.18 | findlay | or it might not |
| 23:51.24 | flyboy^ | I tried that already. |
| 23:52.03 | flyboy^ | I don't see any arbitrary limit set to 4096 - does someone have a kernel config open some place? Is it a kernel option? |
| 23:54.21 | findlay | /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/ixgb.txt:165 |
| 23:54.36 | findlay | that looks device specific by the name, though |
| 23:55.11 | flyboy^ | Yeah. |
| 23:55.28 | flyboy^ | I'm not sure that's it. |
| 23:57.12 | findlay | find /usr/src/linux/net/ -type f | xargs grep -niIC 3 4096 |
| 23:58.27 | flyboy^ | Humm, this looks interesting: /usr/src/linux/net/sctp/socket.c |
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