| 00:01.15 | maquis | oops |
| 00:03.14 | maquis | umm |
| 00:03.16 | maquis | uh oh |
| 00:06.08 | maquis | what'd i do? |
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| 00:16.02 | lars-ut-away | ~trout herlo |
| 00:16.03 | ibot | ACTION slaps herlo around a bit with a large trout! |
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| 00:24.59 | maquis | erm... |
| 00:25.17 | maquis | does anybody know why my router would just suddenly stop working? |
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| 00:41.39 | elg | THX sound ("Deep Note") was made with 20000 lines of C code |
| 00:41.43 | elg | http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2005/05/tiny-music-makers-pt-3-thx-sound.html |
| 00:41.44 | brac | [Music thing: TINY MUSIC MAKERS: Pt 3: The THX Sound] |
| 00:44.22 | maquis | hmmm |
| 00:44.38 | maquis | a ping should *not* be taking > 1 second to go from 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.1 |
| 00:46.39 | maquis | it also shouldn't be having 38% packet loss |
| 00:46.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds like you have fun cable issues |
| 00:54.50 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: ummm |
| 00:55.04 | maquis | this is going from 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.1 |
| 00:55.07 | maquis | over wireless |
| 00:55.15 | maquis | i don't think there are any cables involved |
| 00:55.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Microwaves, wireless phones |
| 00:55.25 | ScytheBlade1 | They're all your enemies |
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| 01:07.40 | nick125 | damn |
| 01:07.50 | nick125 | everything is soo slow when you are swapping |
| 01:09.06 | maquis | who rocks the house???? |
| 01:09.48 | nick125 | http://atarack.com/~ndevito/bg4.jpg < aint it awesome? :D |
| 01:17.48 | ScytheBlade1 | How'd you make that? |
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| 01:27.11 | nick125 | ScytheBlade1: gimp and flame plugin |
| 01:27.26 | ScytheBlade1 | link to latter plugin? |
| 01:27.57 | findlay | it's default in gimp, right? |
| 01:28.32 | findlay | I think I've seen it before |
| 01:29.18 | nick125 | yeah |
| 01:29.20 | nick125 | its default |
| 01:29.38 | ScytheBlade1 | where is it, in their spiralling mass of never ending menus? |
| 01:29.58 | nick125 | script-fu->render->nature->flame |
| 01:29.59 | nick125 | i think |
| 01:30.01 | nick125 | something like that |
| 01:30.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Filters->Render |
| 01:30.50 | ScytheBlade1 | But close ;) |
| 01:30.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks |
| 01:31.03 | findlay | ScytheBlade1: gimpshop? |
| 01:31.11 | ScytheBlade1 | huh? |
| 01:31.26 | findlay | http://www.plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241 |
| 01:31.28 | nick125 | findlay: thats standard |
| 01:31.52 | nick125 | rendering 2048x1600 takes forever though |
| 01:33.09 | nick125 | I'm making a cool multicolored one |
| 01:33.36 | ScytheBlade1 | wow |
| 01:33.39 | ScytheBlade1 | that DOES take it's time |
| 01:34.19 | nick125 | yeah |
| 01:34.23 | nick125 | 10 minutes here |
| 01:34.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm doing a 1440x900 (LCD's native res) |
| 01:34.43 | ScytheBlade1 | on a 2600+ |
| 01:35.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah well, migraines suck |
| 01:35.14 | ScytheBlade1 | bbiab |
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| 01:45.08 | Kuyaedz | anyone suggest a decent flash editor/creator? |
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| 01:46.30 | Kuyaedz | (i know, i know, flash is the devil. its at a clients request..) |
| 01:51.55 | nick125 | flash mx? *shrugs* |
| 01:52.22 | Kuyaedz | is that macromedia's editor? |
| 01:52.27 | nick125 | yeah |
| 01:52.41 | nick125 | I dont know what its called |
| 01:53.32 | findlay | http://www.opaque.net/ming/ http://www.schleef.org/swfdec/ http://sswf.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/projects/swiftfxp/ |
| 01:55.58 | nick125 | http://atarack.com/~ndevito/bg5.jpg < one of my most colorful images |
| 01:56.06 | Kuyaedz | findlay: do you do flash editing or is that just quick google results? |
| 01:56.30 | Kuyaedz | nick125: what'd you use for that? |
| 01:56.38 | nick125 | gimp |
| 01:57.13 | Kuyaedz | sweet. I get more impressed with gimp everyday, although I still need to become comparably efficient as I am in photoshop |
| 01:57.49 | nick125 | It seems alot of people like that one the best |
| 01:57.51 | findlay | Kuyaedz: emerge --searchdesc flash |
| 01:58.32 | findlay | gimpshop |
| 01:58.37 | Kuyaedz | I'm redesigning a site for a client & of course all the links I he sends over are flash-ridden |
| 01:58.53 | Kuyaedz | I tried to setup gimpshop and now don't remember what issue I had.. |
| 01:58.54 | findlay | (: |
| 01:59.07 | mrpull-x | Kuyaedz: why use the gimp if you are more productive in photoshop? |
| 01:59.38 | Kuyaedz | I'd rather not keep a dual-boot machine strictly for photoshop |
| 01:59.48 | findlay | got to love those klunky flash web thingys |
| 01:59.49 | mrpull-x | do you use photoshop to make money? |
| 02:00.12 | Kuyaedz | I suppose |
| 02:00.51 | mrpull-x | why not have a windows or mac machine + photoshop in addition then? |
| 02:02.25 | Kuyaedz | Well it is on my second Desktop. It just seems, I don't know, wasteful to dedicate a machine to occasional photoshop use. |
| 02:02.50 | Kuyaedz | If I can use gimp I do. It's those occasional jobs that I'm more familiar doing in photoshop that I have to switch over. |
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| 02:23.51 | Hhhhhhh | hullo |
| 02:24.42 | tensai | sup |
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| 02:27.18 | mrpull-x | 500 channels and nothing on |
| 02:27.33 | Kuyaedz | I'm in a similar boat of 20 /. posts and nothing worth reading :) |
| 02:28.33 | Kuyaedz | who are you using? |
| 02:28.55 | ScytheBlade1 | nick125, did you just zoom in a ton with the flame thing to generate that? |
| 02:28.58 | nick125 | ScytheBlade1: yeah |
| 02:29.00 | nick125 | Kuyaedz: vr.org |
| 02:29.04 | nick125 | they are denying my IP request |
| 02:29.21 | mrpull-x | nick125: how many are you asking for? |
| 02:29.26 | nick125 | 64 |
| 02:29.37 | mrpull-x | can you justify that many? |
| 02:29.41 | nick125 | yup |
| 02:29.52 | mrpull-x | ip addresses are more scarce than you think |
| 02:29.57 | nick125 | they are saying I'm onyl using 9 of the 21 IPs |
| 02:30.06 | nick125 | I tell them my customers are firewalling and not responding to ping |
| 02:30.38 | nick125 | they tell me to tell my customers not to firewall |
| 02:30.41 | mrpull-x | if you can provide them with a document that shows you are using what you have, they should sell you more |
| 02:30.47 | nick125 | I did |
| 02:30.48 | nick125 | they won't |
| 02:31.14 | mrpull-x | that sounds pretty poor then |
| 02:31.45 | tensai | sounds freaking retarded |
| 02:31.55 | ScytheBlade1 | We need IPv6 |
| 02:32.11 | nick125 | I run a VPS provider, so, right there I have justification for the IPs |
| 02:32.11 | ScytheBlade1 | WAN IPv6 |
| 02:32.13 | mrpull-x | if you asked for a /23 I can see them pushing back... but this? |
| 02:32.38 | mrpull-x | and the "they dont respond to pings so you cant have more" doesn't sound very good |
| 02:33.04 | nick125 | :/ |
| 02:33.05 | nick125 | yeah |
| 02:33.21 | tensai | I would be running ipv6 on the wan if my lame isp supported it. unfortunately, I *am* said isp and I haven't gotten around to implementing it. |
| 02:33.24 | findlay | tensai: do you believe in ipv6 as the Right Thing to do? |
| 02:33.58 | tensai | findlay: yes. it'll happen eventually and people will get used to it. they'll love and curse it just like they do today for ipv4. |
| 02:34.36 | findlay | nearly all of the benefits of v6 have been "backported" to v4, or been hacked around |
| 02:34.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I think it'll place a much *larger* usage of DNS, which is only good imo |
| 02:34.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure it introduces more problems |
| 02:34.55 | tensai | the federal govmunt is currently requiring ipv6 migration by 2008. we'll see if that date holds. |
| 02:35.07 | findlay | yeah, right |
| 02:35.09 | ScytheBlade1 | But it is a lot nicer than IPv6 addresses |
| 02:35.24 | ScytheBlade1 | tensai, you mean like the metric system? |
| 02:35.31 | findlay | lets hope for less fragmented address allocation |
| 02:35.40 | tensai | I should elaborate. requiring ipv6 for all federal computer systems. |
| 02:35.52 | findlay | oh, well, that's better |
| 02:35.55 | findlay | (: |
| 02:35.58 | ScytheBlade1 | :( more like |
| 02:36.04 | ScytheBlade1 | The sooner, the better |
| 02:36.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It isn't going to get any nicer to roll out to the public |
| 02:36.14 | tensai | findlay: that is one of the goals |
| 02:36.32 | findlay | if longhorn doesn't debut by then, does that mean the governmnet scraps windows? |
| 02:36.33 | findlay | (: |
| 02:36.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | XP has IPv6 support |
| 02:36.57 | ScytheBlade1 | It isn't nearly as good as Vista's IPv6 |
| 02:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | But neither is XP's IPv4 compared to Vista's IPv4 |
| 02:37.09 | ScytheBlade1 | So meh |
| 02:37.35 | tensai | findlay: as for features being backported, yes that's true. but ipv4 still doesn't have a larger address space which is a killer feature. ipv6 also gets rid of netmasks which is nice. |
| 02:37.36 | mrpull-x | ScytheBlade1: how is Vista's IP stack better than XP? |
| 02:37.44 | findlay | still the same vms kernel |
| 02:37.51 | ScytheBlade1 | mrpull-x, can you view .wmv? |
| 02:38.08 | mrpull-x | sure. on the computer upstairs. |
| 02:38.23 | ScytheBlade1 | http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=116349 |
| 02:38.33 | ScytheBlade1 | *highly* recommended viewing. |
| 02:38.55 | mrpull-x | i'll have to check it out. that sounds like a sensational statement. |
| 02:39.11 | ScytheBlade1 | It is. |
| 02:39.27 | ScytheBlade1 | In many ways, they're just being brought up to speed to... every other OS out there |
| 02:39.33 | ScytheBlade1 | But in others, they'll be far ahead |
| 02:39.58 | ScytheBlade1 | (Windows LAN networking, and all networking in general, actually, is optimized for a 56k) |
| 02:40.03 | ScytheBlade1 | (Currently, anyways) |
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| 02:40.26 | tensai | ScytheBlade1: yes, we have to deal with that all the time. customers get slow speeds and it's all windows' fault. |
| 02:41.01 | ScytheBlade1 | tensai, I'd recommend you do a bit of poking, then offer your customers a .reg file with instructions to reboot after |
| 02:41.46 | tensai | ScytheBlade1: our tech support has all the instructions. they get plenty of opportunities so they're good at it. |
| 02:41.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, good |
| 02:42.06 | ScytheBlade1 | It's funny what a few registry settings can do ;) |
| 02:44.06 | mrpull-x | what changes? MTU? |
| 02:44.42 | tensai | tcp options, iirc. I think mtu is one of them. honestly I don't know the details. |
| 02:45.04 | ScytheBlade1 | There's several |
| 02:45.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Google around, it comes right up |
| 02:46.14 | ScytheBlade1 | dslreports.com has a good wizard, that does a lot of it |
| 02:46.20 | findlay | what good does changing MTU settings in the registry have to do with TCP speeds? |
| 02:47.09 | ScytheBlade1 | MTU, maximum send/recieve window, and others, have a drastic effect |
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| 02:49.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Watch that video, and while it does not explain what they changed - it gives you an idea |
| 03:02.57 | ScytheBlade1 | mrpull-x, one example: pre-Vista, ALL networking EVERYTHING is locked to a single CPU, all the time, period |
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| 03:05.09 | mrpull-x | That is an interesting limitation... even in 2K3? |
| 03:05.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Even in 2k3 |
| 03:05.44 | hans | I think my son may have broken my power cable (ibook) the green led glows when I plug it in but it doesn't recognize that it's plugged in |
| 03:05.49 | hans | and doesn't charge the battery |
| 03:06.08 | hans | it looks like something may have broken off the tip on the inside of the connector - anyone have a digital camera? |
| 03:07.41 | hans | (and a mac power cord) |
| 03:08.11 | mrpull-x | hans: better upgrade to a macbook pro with the new-better power cord |
| 03:08.16 | mrpull-x | tell your wife it is a must |
| 03:08.53 | mrpull-x | ScytheBlade1: it'd be nice if this channel 9 video was distilled down to the important details |
| 03:10.12 | ScytheBlade1 | mrpull-x, yeah, but last I checked, they don't offer that |
| 03:11.01 | maquis | hans: my parents have gone through a couple power cords |
| 03:12.19 | ScytheBlade1 | mrpull-x, the first few minutes are kinda useless, but later it's pretty much all relevant |
| 03:12.36 | hans | looks like part of the middle thing broke off inside the laptop plug |
| 03:13.22 | mrpull-x | built in support for TCP offloading makes sense... but that isn't really new |
| 03:13.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Again, part of it is just getting it up to speed |
| 03:13.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Most of it, almost |
| 03:18.18 | mrpull-x | dang. this stack isn't in beta1 yet? |
| 03:18.37 | mrpull-x | I thought beta's were supposed to be feature complete |
| 03:19.36 | mrpull-x | maybe not. this video is older than I guessed. |
| 03:20.12 | mrpull-x | i wonder if it is in the CTP's |
| 03:20.20 | ScytheBlade1 | beta2 |
| 03:20.30 | ScytheBlade1 | It is older indeed |
| 03:30.13 | ScytheBlade1 | mrpull-x, later on in the video, they explain exactly what actually happened when blaster hit microsoft.com |
| 03:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | mrpull-x, and how vista will help that |
| 03:44.12 | mheath_ | Messed up my knee again =\ |
| 03:44.34 | mheath_ | I keep having minor knee problems...just occasionally...but I'm starting to worry that theres something wrong with my knee that will stop my enlistment |
| 03:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Worse will probably happen in basic |
| 03:45.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I wouldn't worry too much ;) |
| 03:45.30 | mheath_ | Its happened twice, though |
| 03:45.46 | mheath_ | At applebees....both kinda slipped on the floor a bit each time |
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| 03:46.00 | mheath_ | knee buckles, then feels really stiff and minorly sore for a bit |
| 03:46.03 | mheath_ | particularly when squatting |
| 03:50.40 | findlay | you know what would be really fun right now is a good troll |
| 03:53.15 | maquis | ~buckybot findlay |
| 03:53.16 | ibot | findlay: you're a stupid idiot, and I can tell you that all I want, but if you say anything mean to me, I'll start crying and insulting everything I can, because you're discriminating against me! |
| 03:53.37 | findlay | ~kickban ibot |
| 03:53.56 | maquis | findlay: you said you wanted a troll |
| 03:54.02 | maquis | ~troll findlay |
| 03:54.03 | ibot | ACTION hereby declares findlay a troll |
| 03:54.46 | findlay | utah is so ugly, it's like a desert without whipped cream, and it's so boring |
| 03:54.58 | findlay | I can't believe people live there |
| 03:55.14 | findlay | there |
| 03:55.17 | findlay | how's that? |
| 04:06.51 | maquis | findlay: meh |
| 04:08.14 | findlay | ): |
| 04:08.47 | emcnabb | time to pack the bags |
| 04:09.22 | maquis | emcnabb: leaving town again? |
| 04:11.37 | emcnabb | vacation |
| 04:13.17 | maquis | ooh |
| 04:13.19 | maquis | where too? |
| 04:13.22 | maquis | anywhere fun? |
| 04:13.37 | emcnabb | Southern Mexico |
| 04:13.43 | maquis | ooh |
| 04:13.44 | emcnabb | just outside of Mexico City |
| 04:13.49 | maquis | be careful :) |
| 04:14.06 | emcnabb | I'm not worried at all |
| 04:15.46 | maquis | good :) |
| 04:22.31 | findlay | if xbmodder_ were here, he'd say lala |
| 04:23.09 | nick125_lappy | yeah |
| 04:23.12 | nick125_lappy | I'll doit for him |
| 04:23.13 | nick125_lappy | lala |
| 04:23.23 | findlay | thanks nick125_lappy |
| 04:23.35 | nick125_lappy | no problem |
| 04:24.45 | mrpull-x | emcnabb: i cruised to mazatlan, puerto vallarta, and cabo ealier this month |
| 04:24.50 | mrpull-x | it was a nice getaway |
| 04:36.43 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath_, do you game? |
| 04:40.34 | emcnabb | mrpull-x: awesome |
| 04:40.53 | emcnabb | we're going inland to Queretaro |
| 04:41.36 | emcnabb | some friends of the family moved down there; he's in charge of several auto component plants |
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| 04:53.32 | tensai | ~rlart |
| 04:58.12 | maquis | ooh... 150 years of sleep??? |
| 05:00.05 | xbmodder_lappy | sweet,,, |
| 05:09.22 | findlay | sour;;; |
| 05:35.30 | QBFreak | the tuner works in windows, although I did notice that the later channels were all shifted by one, kinda odd |
| 06:01.25 | QBFreak | nyaa, it can't find glue.h |
| 06:01.28 | QBFreak | glu.h |
| 06:05.27 | QBFreak | AHG, I can't figure out how to update the slocate database |
| 06:05.33 | QBFreak | I have no 'slocate' executable |
| 06:05.47 | maquis | QBFreak: just run to the store and buy some glue |
| 06:06.15 | QBFreak | aha! updatedb |
| 06:06.23 | QBFreak | maquis: I wish it were that easy |
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| 06:09.34 | maquis | erm... |
| 06:09.38 | maquis | that's kinda scary |
| 06:09.47 | QBFreak | what? |
| 06:09.53 | maquis | i just counted up my sleep since sunday morning |
| 06:10.14 | QBFreak | but sunday morning is still like two days into the future |
| 06:10.17 | maquis | 18.5 hours since 8am on sunday |
| 06:10.21 | QBFreak | ack |
| 06:10.22 | maquis | no... last sunday |
| 06:10.40 | QBFreak | aww, I thought maybe you were sleeping in the future, that could be interesting |
| 06:10.59 | maquis | i will be sleeping... |
| 06:25.41 | QBFreak | I think my computer hates me |
| 06:26.25 | QBFreak | why is firefox rotating tabs on my like this! |
| 06:26.35 | QBFreak | reboot time, computer is possessed |
| 06:28.02 | QBFreak | its kinda freaky when firefox keeps switching tabs... |
| 06:28.14 | QBFreak | with no apparent reason |
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| 09:54.18 | xbmodder_lappy | hi |
| 14:24.44 | harleypig | I installed kismet (on kubuntu) and now I can't connect to any accesspoint ... looking at the logs it looks like I'm in some kind of promiscuous mode. |
| 14:25.46 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 14:25.49 | ScytheBlade1 | sec as I find the command |
| 14:26.28 | ScytheBlade1 | iwconfig interface mode managed |
| 14:27.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ie, `iwconfig eth4 mode managed` |
| 14:28.37 | harleypig | that doesn't change anything, I've already tried that. |
| 14:28.44 | harleypig | sorry, kids were fighitng in back yard. |
| 14:28.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, no problem, I know how that works |
| 14:28.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Or doesn't, at times |
| 14:29.04 | harleypig | heh |
| 14:29.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Make sure that kismet-server isn't running |
| 14:29.17 | harleypig | I've uninstalled kismet and the problem doesn't go awy. |
| 14:29.28 | ScytheBlade1 | uninstalled != not running |
| 14:29.34 | ScytheBlade1 | You can have a binary running that no longer exists on disk |
| 14:29.35 | harleypig | I know its not a hardware issue because I'm booted in windows right now and it's working fine. |
| 14:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, rebooted |
| 14:29.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, yeah, that'd fix that :P |
| 14:30.12 | harleypig | Yeah, this is a 2 day problem so far ... that was the first hing I thought of |
| 14:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | try setting it all up manually? |
| 14:31.16 | ScytheBlade1 | iwconfig eth4 mode managed essid SSID ap ma:ca:dd:yo:f:oy:ur:ap |
| 14:31.18 | ScytheBlade1 | etc. |
| 14:31.28 | harleypig | that's the way I've been doing it ... I have two scripts, one for work and one for home, I set the iwconfig settings in the script, then call dhclient |
| 14:31.45 | ScytheBlade1 | what card is this? |
| 14:31.50 | harleypig | rt2500 |
| 14:31.52 | harleypig | ralink |
| 14:31.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 14:32.01 | ScytheBlade1 | A friend has one of those |
| 14:32.02 | tensai | iwconfig mode should do it |
| 14:32.21 | harleypig | one of the commands in the script is iwconfig eth1 mode managed |
| 14:32.27 | tensai | kismet tries to reset the card when it exits |
| 14:32.44 | ScytheBlade1 | you may have to rmmod and re-modprobe |
| 14:32.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ... but you've rebooted. hmm. |
| 14:34.46 | harleypig | omg ... my 6 yr old was walking the top of the backyard fence. When he saw me coming outside he kept saying "I'll be careful!" |
| 14:35.00 | harleypig | He's mad at me cause I made him get down. :D |
| 14:35.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Build a bigger fence ;) |
| 14:35.22 | harleypig | The fence is 7' tall |
| 14:35.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Make it 11'! |
| 14:35.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Kidding. That wouldn't really solve the problem ;) |
| 14:35.54 | harleypig | He's a rabbit ... he either climbs over or digs under ... |
| 14:36.03 | ScytheBlade1 | better under than over 7' of air |
| 14:36.21 | harleypig | yeah, untill you have to fill in the hole. |
| 14:36.32 | harleypig | I make him help, but I still have to most of the work. |
| 14:37.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, this is odd |
| 14:37.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Newegg says they shipped my new fans from CA |
| 14:37.14 | harleypig | (there's no way I'm going tolet him use the tamping rod) |
| 14:37.30 | ScytheBlade1 | But the UPS tracking info reads ONTARIO, CA, US |
| 14:37.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 14:37.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 14:37.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I take it back :P |
| 14:37.41 | harleypig | anyway:D |
| 14:37.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes yes |
| 14:37.47 | ScytheBlade1 | ANYWAYS |
| 14:37.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Your wifi |
| 14:37.53 | harleypig | err ... |
| 14:38.10 | harleypig | sorry, didn't erase all the way. |
| 14:38.17 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 14:38.28 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811999073 <-- mmm |
| 14:38.30 | brac | [COOLER MASTER SAF-S83-E1 80 x 80 x 25mm Sleeve Silent 80mm Case Fan Value Pack With 6 packs - Retail at Newegg.com] |
| 14:38.44 | ScytheBlade1 | $10 |
| 14:38.51 | harleypig | nice |
| 14:38.53 | tensai | harleypig: you set the correct card type in kismet.conf? |
| 14:39.13 | harleypig | probably not, but it's been uninstalled |
| 14:39.26 | harleypig | or, I thought it had ... |
| 14:39.41 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 14:39.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Surprise! |
| 14:39.53 | tensai | is it running? |
| 14:40.01 | ScytheBlade1 | He's rebooted since |
| 14:40.03 | harleypig | no, I know I ran the uninstall procedure, but maybe something got left behind. |
| 14:40.06 | harleypig | I'm in windows right now. |
| 14:40.28 | tensai | ScytheBlade1: there's a daemon which could be auto starting |
| 14:40.46 | tensai | harleypig: I did kinda wonder how you were on the internet |
| 14:40.49 | harleypig | but I've been going back and forth, so nothing should be left in meory. |
| 14:40.53 | harleypig | :] |
| 14:41.05 | ScytheBlade1 | tensai, if so, I'd consider that a fundamentally broken install of kismet... that completly destroys ability to use wifi, and on boot.. |
| 14:41.18 | harleypig | Could've been plugged in to my router. |
| 14:41.18 | tensai | ScytheBlade1: well, sure. I would too. |
| 14:41.25 | ScytheBlade1 | What distro? |
| 14:41.31 | harleypig | kubuntu dapper |
| 14:41.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I dunno |
| 14:41.52 | ScytheBlade1 | From what I know of *ubuntu*, they might be stupid enough to do that ;) |
| 14:41.58 | harleypig | well, you've given me some more things to check anyway |
| 14:41.59 | harleypig | :D |
| 14:42.14 | harleypig | tensai: aren't you on the ubuntu team? |
| 14:42.20 | harleypig | or is that someone else in here? |
| 14:42.22 | tensai | no, not me |
| 14:42.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Make sure that nothing *kismet* is running, and if so, that'd work |
| 14:42.45 | harleypig | yeah |
| 14:42.47 | tensai | it seems so odd that even after a reboot it isn't working |
| 14:43.16 | tensai | I wonder if setting iwconfig eth1 mode monitor; iwconfig eth1 mode managed might help |
| 14:43.39 | harleypig | well, the card is working ... it's just continuously sending packets of some kind. Since the log says they are successfully (something like that) I'm guessing its eitehr promiscous or test mode. |
| 14:43.53 | harleypig | tensai: ! I haven't tried that. |
| 14:44.17 | harleypig | I mean, it's working ... I just can't get it to connect to any accesspoint. |
| 14:44.23 | tensai | what log? |
| 14:44.33 | harleypig | ralinks utility log |
| 14:44.49 | harleypig | RaConfig2500 |
| 14:45.00 | harleypig | i think that's what its called |
| 14:45.09 | harleypig | but it has nothing about promiscuous or test mode |
| 14:45.42 | tensai | such a shame that kismet didn't work. it's so much fun. |
| 14:47.53 | harleypig | I don't know that its kismets fault ... its probably a pebcak issue |
| 14:48.49 | harleypig | I'm going to reboot and see if any of these new steps will help. |
| 14:50.56 | tensai | make sure to capture the output of iwconfig |
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| 17:06.48 | BL4 | good morning utah |
| 17:10.06 | findlay | why is an email address with the host resolved to an IP address insecure? |
| 17:10.07 | Hhhhhh | noNO |
| 17:10.09 | Hhhhhh | no |
| 17:10.12 | Hhhhhh | erm |
| 17:10.14 | Hhhhhh | hello |
| 17:11.17 | maquis | ~lart finals |
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| 17:23.33 | findlay | ok, I am now officially disgusted with the shameless cruft programs leave in my home directory |
| 17:23.56 | findlay | a mere 'ls' is just fine but it betrays the lurking pile of garbage underneath |
| 17:24.46 | findlay | an 'ls -A' if you dare to try it reveals a swarming heap of directories and files hidden to the unwary |
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| 17:58.52 | findlay | so I'm looking for a usenet server to use and all of the sites I've visited so far vaguely remind me of those trash warez sites |
| 18:14.36 | findlay | why should usenet be overrun with so much filth and pirated booty that nobody sensible wants? |
| 18:19.29 | BL4 | because there are so many people that are not sensible |
| 18:33.02 | findlay | and they have all converged on usenet |
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| 18:34.45 | bonez39 | let's say I have a network at home, and one of the PC's residing on the net, tapping in to get an IP from my router...runs winxp pro...is it possible for me to log on remotely, to my linux box..and then from there to explore that winxppro box? |
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| 18:47.00 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 18:47.07 | xbmodder_lappy | usenet = evil; |
| 18:47.50 | xbmodder_lappy | Well, according to the MAFIAA, but I love it... |
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| 18:50.24 | findlay | xbmodder_lappy: what servers do you use? |
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| 19:05.22 | findlay | ha |
| 19:05.48 | QBFreak | how does one 'hans' ? |
| 19:06.21 | QBFreak | I spent all night beating mythtv, still no worky, and now I just want to install gphoto and get pictures off my camera |
| 19:06.38 | QBFreak | but it needs this and that and the other and I'm sure they all need at least three things each... |
| 19:06.46 | QBFreak | one of which will refuse to compile |
| 19:07.32 | hans | but gentoo's awesome! |
| 19:07.37 | QBFreak | BAH I'm in a hurry, back to windows... |
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| 19:08.58 | QBFreak | Linux is nice and flexible, but sometimes I just can't get things to work... |
| 19:11.46 | findlay | QBFreak: any distro worth its salt will resolve dependencies automatically |
| 20:36.38 | levi | My linux boxes have been resolving dependancies automatically since the late 90s, I think. |
| 20:38.13 | levi | Hmm, actually, it was probably around '95. |
| 20:39.13 | levi | So, needless to say, a distro that doesn't do so is a bit behind the times! |
| 20:47.35 | findlay | anybody know why UserDir cgi-bin has to be run suexec? |
| 21:06.42 | nick125 | soo..time to fight with the colo provider |
| 21:45.02 | findlay | heh, who says apache is hard to configure? |
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| 23:31.00 | mheath_ | The people of Nepal confuse me |
| 23:31.07 | mheath_ | I still fail to see whats wrong with the King's offer. |
| 23:56.24 | findlay | is his name Cusco by chance? |
