| 00:01.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Shoot - what's the name of the memorial of the three soldiers pushing up a flag? |
| 00:23.59 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 00:24.44 | tensai | ScytheBlade1: the one commemorating iwo jima? |
| 00:24.56 | tensai | that's got 5 soliers, iirc |
| 00:25.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Iwo Jima! That's it, thanks |
| 00:26.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm uploading all of the photos I took, and had forgotten the name |
| 00:30.48 | ScytheBlade1 | http://photos.brantleyonline.com/main.php?g2_itemId=6494 |
| 00:52.58 | maquis | weird... my computer shut itself down |
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| 01:31.55 | griffeymac | Hi folks. |
| 01:33.25 | emcnabb | hello |
| 01:33.32 | emcnabb | I was just responding to your email :) |
| 01:33.42 | griffeymac | :) |
| 01:33.49 | griffeymac | I was just registering my nick and stuff. |
| 01:33.57 | griffeymac | Been a while since I've done this IRC thing. ;) |
| 01:34.31 | griffeymac | And yes, I know we haven't had *any* business days yet, but I've sure been checking work e-mail every few hours. ;) |
| 01:34.40 | griffeymac | GROAN. |
| 01:36.56 | emcnabb | they're usually very fast about getting results back, but since it's Easter weekend lots of people probably took time off |
| 01:37.27 | griffeymac | I don't think I'm going to pass, but I still just want to know. :/ |
| 01:37.47 | emcnabb | I bet you'll get the results back early on Monday |
| 01:38.27 | griffeymac | I'm *trying* not to lose sleep over it. |
| 01:39.01 | griffeymac | I hope you made it home safely. |
| 01:39.51 | griffeymac | (And the mythtv ball is already rolling.... ;) |
| 01:43.52 | emcnabb | I was anxious to get my results back too |
| 01:44.33 | emcnabb | what fun project should I work on tonight? The wife just left for work, and besides the huge mess in the kitchen, I'm a free man... |
| 01:45.02 | griffeymac | Well, my OCD would force me to do the dishes... ;) ;) |
| 01:54.13 | griffeymac | d00d--you really want this Mac? |
| 02:00.09 | maquis | emcnabb: how goes it? |
| 02:00.14 | maquis | griffeymac: howdy |
| 02:00.35 | emcnabb | it's going well |
| 02:02.05 | emcnabb | griffeymac: I would like it; I just don't want to take it if you still think you might want it someday |
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| 02:03.02 | griffeymac | Hi maquis! |
| 02:03.14 | griffeymac | emcnabb: If you want it, I'll send it. |
| 02:03.53 | emcnabb | I think pmcnabb my be driving out here next month; maybe he could bring it |
| 02:03.54 | griffeymac | And I won't ever need it--like a //e, I can run an emulator if I need to. :) |
| 02:03.58 | emcnabb | he's cheap :-) |
| 02:04.08 | maquis | lol |
| 02:04.19 | maquis | what kind of mac? |
| 02:06.02 | griffeymac | Maybe this one, I think: |
| 02:06.03 | griffeymac | http://www.apple-history.com/?page=gallery&model=plus&performa=off&sort=date&order=ASC |
| 02:06.23 | maquis | ooh! cool! |
| 02:07.00 | griffeymac | It's already spoken for. ;) |
| 02:07.06 | maquis | yeah... i know |
| 02:07.07 | maquis | :) |
| 02:07.10 | griffeymac | :D |
| 02:07.35 | maquis | i shouldn't be collecting any hardware til i get out of utah |
| 02:08.24 | griffeymac | emcnabb: I can bring it to "the dropoff location" tomorrow, if you'd like. |
| 02:08.44 | griffeymac | (Sorry--I have no idea what I can and can't say...) |
| 02:08.56 | maquis | ~lart *mcnabb |
| 02:09.09 | emcnabb | ok, let me talk to someone |
| 02:09.35 | griffeymac | And if that doesn't work out, I'll be happy to ship it--honest. |
| 02:09.37 | emcnabb | someone = some family member in Champaign |
| 02:10.18 | griffeymac | (I didn't want to say that I had an address and a map up and stuff already...) |
| 02:12.11 | emcnabb | I'll email the address, etc |
| 02:14.24 | griffeymac | I'll poke around in Turner hall and see if I can find original packaging for it. :) |
| 02:15.04 | emcnabb | haha; one more person in the do-you-know game: Tim Ellsworth |
| 02:15.15 | emcnabb | he's in soil sciences I believe |
| 02:15.19 | griffeymac | It doesn't ring a bell. |
| 02:15.20 | emcnabb | the same as Joe Stucki |
| 02:15.32 | griffeymac | The name is familiar... |
| 02:16.11 | griffeymac | He's another NRES person. One floor down from me. |
| 02:16.27 | griffeymac | I'm sure I'd *recognize* him, but I don't know him offhand. |
| 02:17.01 | emcnabb | small world |
| 02:17.59 | griffeymac | Hmm. No photo on the NRES web site. I'll call up their netadmin right now and read him the riot act. |
| 02:18.34 | emcnabb | haha |
| 02:18.54 | griffeymac | (NRES is a windows shop---ick...) |
| 02:19.22 | QBFreak | an Apple //e? |
| 02:19.34 | griffeymac | Their netadmin went to school with my wife (like from nursery school onward) and is a good friend of mine. |
| 02:20.13 | griffeymac | QBFreak: I *loved* my Apple //e when I was younger. |
| 02:20.36 | emcnabb | Google maps now has a little overview map in the lower right-hand column; I kind of like it |
| 02:20.42 | QBFreak | I've got a friend who has two of the Cs and a bunch of software for them |
| 02:21.03 | QBFreak | at some point we were going to try to get them to serve web pages over serial, write a web server in AppleSoft BASIC :) |
| 02:21.30 | griffeymac | Holey moley... |
| 02:21.36 | QBFreak | I got mine at goodwill, so I don't have any software, but BASIC is built into the ROM |
| 02:21.50 | griffeymac | BASIC R0XX0rz. |
| 02:22.18 | griffeymac | (And I only 1337 speak to be funny--just a disclaimer since I'm new here...) |
| 02:22.25 | elg | so you're not just a freak on the football field |
| 02:22.36 | QBFreak | of course not, I'm a geek, I don't believe in sports |
| 02:22.44 | emcnabb | ~whaleslap elg |
| 02:22.46 | ibot | ACTION beats elg upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 02:23.47 | QBFreak | Windows (for workgroups) 3.11, eventually two machines networked with 10-base2 |
| 02:23.51 | QBFreak | fun stuff |
| 02:24.06 | griffeymac | I started on a TRS-80 in grade school. |
| 02:24.15 | QBFreak | my dad and I had a set of batch files/qbasic to sync the clocks |
| 02:24.28 | griffeymac | Uh, probably right around the year that my new hero, emcnabb, was born. ;) |
| 02:24.38 | QBFreak | I used some sort of Apple in 2nd grade, but I don't remember what |
| 02:24.49 | QBFreak | we did Logo with Kirby the turtle |
| 02:25.03 | QBFreak | although it was more of "type this" "now do that" |
| 02:25.17 | QBFreak | I don't know that I learned anything from it |
| 02:25.29 | emcnabb | QBFreak: what part of NC do you live in? you told me once but I forgot |
| 02:25.37 | griffeymac | We had a neighbor that had a TRS that played some game where you had to give a ship "over and up" directions and it would move a bit each turn and you had to negotiate it over a mountain. |
| 02:25.42 | QBFreak | south-east of Charlotte |
| 02:26.07 | emcnabb | ah, that's right |
| 02:26.09 | QBFreak | a somewhat rural area |
| 02:26.16 | griffeymac | And they eventually bought an Apple ][+ and I used to go over to their house every day to mess with it. |
| 02:26.25 | QBFreak | cool |
| 02:26.44 | QBFreak | my friend managed to snag a couple of different old apples and a tandy from somewhere |
| 02:27.01 | QBFreak | at some point we'd like to have a space to set some of our old hardware up |
| 02:27.27 | griffeymac | (Aack--and not to sound way goofy, I used to date his daughter in high school, she ended up marrying my best friend, we made peace, I was going to have dinner with them last week when at the "training thing" and as it turned out, the dad died the Saturday before. How bizarre...) |
| 02:27.51 | QBFreak | emcnabb: you're not stalking me are you? |
| 02:28.10 | griffeymac | (emcnabb probably thinks I'm stalking him....) |
| 02:28.25 | emcnabb | QBFreak: nop |
| 02:28.27 | emcnabb | e |
| 02:28.29 | griffeymac | But the redhead would never *let* me stalk anyone, even if I wanted to. |
| 02:28.31 | emcnabb | griffeymac: nope |
| 02:28.49 | maquis | ~stalk griffeymac |
| 02:28.50 | QBFreak | eh, wouldn't be hard, various bits of my info are around in a few places |
| 02:28.53 | QBFreak | darned internet! |
| 02:29.36 | griffeymac | Well, I'm sure there aren't too many people with last name "Qbfreak" out there.... |
| 02:29.59 | QBFreak | you never know... |
| 02:31.31 | QBFreak | hmm...trying to decide if I throw a $30 tv tuner card into this order... |
| 02:32.04 | griffeymac | Then you can use mythtv. |
| 02:32.05 | QBFreak | 4/5 eggs, one of the reviewers states that mythtv wasn't hard to use with it |
| 02:32.25 | QBFreak | no more having to remember to set the VCR and keep a tape in it |
| 02:32.40 | maquis | QBFreak: which card? |
| 02:32.48 | griffeymac | emcnabb: you're not at all related (probably by marriage--not yours, of course) to a Mix 94.5 DJ in Chambana? |
| 02:32.56 | QBFreak | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814122221 |
| 02:33.20 | nick125 | QBFreak: oh yeah, I have that card in my other box.. |
| 02:33.28 | QBFreak | half decent? |
| 02:33.40 | maquis | QBFreak: interesting |
| 02:33.41 | griffeymac | I need to order one--and a hard drive that is bigger than 40 gigs. |
| 02:33.47 | nick125 | I found it okay, it worked in linux with the bttv driver |
| 02:33.53 | QBFreak | cool |
| 02:34.07 | nick125 | Now only if I could get my pvr-150 working on this box.. |
| 02:34.08 | nick125 | grr |
| 02:34.10 | emcnabb | griffeymac: don't think so |
| 02:34.29 | griffeymac | emcnabb: our world would have gotten even smaller. |
| 02:35.09 | QBFreak | averaging out the comments I figure the quality still has to be better than my 12" apple-monitor TV :) |
| 02:36.14 | nick125 | I wonder if something in gentoo-sources is breaking ivtv.. |
| 02:41.13 | griffeymac | gentoo? You should be using Fedora! |
| 02:41.14 | griffeymac | :) |
| 02:41.19 | griffeymac | (just kidding) |
| 02:42.38 | nick125 | grr |
| 02:42.50 | nick125 | Don't talk to me about _any_ RPM based distro.. |
| 02:42.51 | griffeymac | (Sorry..) |
| 02:43.19 | nick125 | ScytheBlade1: lol |
| 02:44.26 | nick125 | oh fun.. |
| 02:44.26 | nick125 | FATAL: Error inserting ivtv (/lib/modules/2.6.16-gentoo-r1/ivtv/ivtv.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 02:44.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Compiling a module agains the wrong sources? |
| 02:45.07 | ScytheBlade1 | s/agains/against/ |
| 02:45.14 | nick125 | it the right sources.. |
| 02:45.21 | nick125 | ivtv: Unknown parameter `ivtv_std' |
| 02:49.15 | griffeymac | Okay, folks. I know it's like 4:00 p.m. in Utah (kidding)--I need to cut out for the night. |
| 02:50.21 | griffeymac | I'll try to plop in for a while at work tomorrow. |
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| 02:55.49 | mheath | I hate people. I really do. |
| 02:57.32 | griffeymac | Why? |
| 02:58.12 | mheath | Some guy who I really dislike (for good reasons, but I won't go into our history now) has been screwing around with my computer. |
| 02:58.31 | mheath | At first I thought it was my sister accidentally changing settings and closing windows when she came over and wanted to use the internet |
| 02:58.46 | mheath | (Our Windows XP desktop broke; my Linux computer is sitting in the same spot, so people have been using it the same) |
| 02:59.04 | mheath | But this guy, I found out (and started to notice) put some incrimating stuff on my computer, then showed my dad. |
| 02:59.39 | mheath | Stuck pornography sites in Firefox's history, created heavily adult themed accounts in Gaim, and showed my dad. |
| 03:00.02 | mheath | Not to mention generally messing around with my settings |
| 03:00.07 | griffeymac | Why did he do that? |
| 03:00.29 | griffeymac | No need to hate *all* people. :) |
| 03:00.51 | mheath | griffeymac, Me and the guy have had some run ins. He dislikes me for illegitimate reasons, because he has some mental problems (Not exagerating / joking - diagnosed bipolar among other things) |
| 03:01.03 | mheath | He's made several physical attempts on my life before. |
| 03:01.09 | griffeymac | Ouch. |
| 03:01.12 | mheath | The guy was destitue. Homeless, etc..... |
| 03:01.17 | griffeymac | Sorry to hear that. :( |
| 03:01.25 | mheath | My dad, being the do gooder that he is, took the guy in. Let him live with us for a bit. |
| 03:01.46 | mheath | During which time he used my dad for money, took my sisters virginity, tried to attack me several times, physically damaged a lot of my posessions, etc. |
| 03:01.47 | griffeymac | (at which point you set a password on your XP machnine?) |
| 03:02.01 | griffeymac | -n |
| 03:02.16 | mheath | Always had one on there.... |
| 03:02.19 | mheath | He moved out long ago |
| 03:02.25 | mheath | And my dad never uses this computer |
| 03:02.42 | mheath | The guys not over here much, so I never saw a need to make sure I logged out on this computer |
| 03:02.59 | griffeymac | Start making sure? |
| 03:03.11 | mheath | Heh. I was about to do that. |
| 03:03.17 | QBFreak | or password protect the screensaver, not fool proof but might be good enough |
| 03:03.19 | griffeymac | (Again, I'm new here so I should probably just keep my mouth shut....) |
| 03:03.26 | mheath | As I said, about two weeks ago, I noticed weird changes |
| 03:03.40 | mheath | People closing windows (particularly xchat), my firefox homepage was changed |
| 03:03.45 | mheath | To MSN, of all things =P |
| 03:03.58 | griffeymac | I do the password/screensaver thing to keep my kids away from "random unsupervised surfing." |
| 03:04.37 | QBFreak | and then for a while I thought the keyboard was busted on my older server till I got the key out and unlocked it... |
| 03:05.15 | QBFreak | mheath: so he's been messing with your stuffs? |
| 03:05.36 | mheath | QBFreak, Heh. Yes, and planting incriminating things to make me look bad. |
| 03:05.43 | QBFreak | that sucks |
| 03:05.51 | mheath | Offbeat pornography, adult themed gaim accounts. |
| 03:06.01 | griffeymac | Went through the trouble of "planting" Firefox history? |
| 03:06.15 | mheath | Apparently. |
| 03:06.22 | griffeymac | Wow. |
| 03:06.23 | mheath | Its all dated like all at once |
| 03:06.42 | mheath | Apparently he forgot to show my dad the history view categorized by date. How convenient. |
| 03:06.42 | griffeymac | I suppose that I guess I could do that if I had to, in theory. |
| 03:06.47 | mheath | My dad hasn't said anything |
| 03:07.09 | mheath | Upholding his time honored tradition of having nothing to do with his family, and refusing to say anything to me. |
| 03:07.17 | mheath | He just talks to me through my brother, if he really cares. |
| 03:07.58 | griffeymac | Sorry to hear that. |
| 03:08.00 | griffeymac | :( |
| 03:08.47 | griffeymac | Okay folks, I'm outta here for the night. |
| 03:08.52 | griffeymac | It was nice talking to all of you. |
| 03:09.01 | griffeymac | I'll be back on when I'm at work tomorrow. |
| 03:09.13 | QBFreak | laters griffeymac |
| 03:09.28 | griffeymac | Good night, QBFreak. |
| 03:09.33 | QBFreak | arg, time to get some duct tape, darned bugs are swarming my monitor |
| 03:09.48 | griffeymac | :) |
| 03:09.57 | *** part/#utah griffeymac (n=griffeym@12-240-9-171.client.mchsi.com) |
| 03:09.59 | QBFreak | seal up the spots where the screen doesn't sit quite right |
| 03:10.04 | QBFreak | window screen |
| 03:15.05 | QBFreak | no, the insect kind |
| 03:18.04 | iguana | lol |
| 03:19.36 | nick125_lappy | anyone elsehere go to wht? |
| 03:19.48 | nick125_lappy | (webhostingtalking) |
| 03:20.04 | QBFreak | never heard of it |
| 03:20.09 | nick125_lappy | webhosttalk |
| 03:20.11 | nick125_lappy | blah |
| 03:20.15 | nick125_lappy | web hosting talk |
| 03:20.15 | nick125_lappy | there |
| 03:20.37 | nick125_lappy | for some reason, I can't logi..blah, there we go |
| 03:20.57 | QBFreak | I see you logged in in the list |
| 03:21.21 | QBFreak | ...netfreak, nick125, NickFritz... |
| 03:21.21 | nick125_lappy | yeah, it finally started working.. |
| 03:23.33 | QBFreak | I don't know what it is but firefox absolutely crawls when using gmail |
| 03:23.38 | QBFreak | I didn't have this problem in windows |
| 03:49.42 | mheath | Got a lot of that cleared up |
| 03:49.43 | mheath | Hmmm |
| 03:49.54 | QBFreak | how's that? |
| 03:49.57 | mheath | Does the XChat version for Linux have the tree view yet? |
| 03:50.09 | QBFreak | no idea, I use IRSSI :) |
| 03:50.17 | mheath | I remember reading about it on the Xchat homepage, but at the time it said Windows only |
| 03:50.27 | QBFreak | terminals are your friend! |
| 03:50.57 | mheath | QBFreak, the human race has spent the last 4 decades inventing, designing, and perfecting the GUI. This is for a reason. |
| 03:51.32 | QBFreak | everyone does it! |
| 03:51.42 | mheath | Actually, I was craving some games I enjoy |
| 03:51.55 | mheath | Our families Windows machine died...... |
| 03:52.01 | QBFreak | ah |
| 03:52.18 | mheath | My computer's gfx card doesn't support acceleration under Linux, or I'd be runinng Cedega |
| 03:52.45 | mheath | And all my computers are too slow to run muhc of anything unaccelerated |
| 03:53.52 | mheath | I realized, the next 3 months are the last time in probably a few years that I'll have much access to a computer at all |
| 03:53.56 | mheath | I might as well enjoy it, huh? |
| 03:54.16 | QBFreak | crap! I nearly ordered a 64 bit processor |
| 03:54.27 | QBFreak | I'm glad I saw that |
| 03:54.51 | mheath | Depending on when I end up shipping off (me and the recruiter are aiming for June 26th, but thats not set in stone yet, so it may or may not happen), I plan to get a lot of hacking done this summer |
| 03:55.07 | QBFreak | evil hacker! |
| 03:55.12 | mheath | I've always been talking about working on a Linux distro...if I have a spare month or so after school lets out, I'd like to push out *something* |
| 03:55.36 | QBFreak | mheathLinux - for the chocolate bar in all of us |
| 03:56.21 | mheath | Heh. |
| 03:56.46 | mheath | Actually, a lot of my ideas (well, the only ideas I'd be able to work on in just a month of time) revolve around a ready-to-deploy server |
| 03:56.51 | QBFreak | AHG I have the stupid ford ad stuck in my head |
| 03:56.58 | QBFreak | ah cool |
| 03:57.03 | mheath | ITs odd, I've been in a lot of situations where all I want to do is set up a quick server |
| 03:57.12 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 03:57.14 | mheath | You know.....Vanilla Apache + MySQL + PHP, E-mail, FTP, etc..... |
| 03:57.22 | QBFreak | samba? |
| 03:57.27 | mheath | Yeah |
| 03:57.32 | mheath | But no servers support this out of the box |
| 03:57.38 | QBFreak | those are the things I primarily use linux for |
| 03:57.40 | mheath | all of them take some manual configuration to get that all working |
| 03:57.43 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 03:58.00 | QBFreak | you want sort of a server class knoppix or something :) |
| 03:58.15 | mheath | It'd be nice to have one with ready-to-deploy modular packages and such. |
| 03:58.27 | mheath | Just install the Samba package, and Samba works with a typical config |
| 03:58.39 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 03:58.41 | QBFreak | that would be nifty |
| 03:58.45 | mheath | Just install the ProFTPd package, and it works with a typical config (including user directories, jailing, etc) |
| 03:58.46 | QBFreak | especially if it could be a livecd |
| 03:58.48 | QBFreak | :) |
| 03:59.07 | mheath | Nothing too exciting, you know, but just something that works and saves time on some really, really common tasks. |
| 03:59.16 | QBFreak | for some reason I was thinking you were say that at first... |
| 03:59.21 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 03:59.32 | QBFreak | I don't like wasting time on repetitve things :) |
| 04:00.00 | QBFreak | which is why I have a script that installs and configures twiki on my hosted site any time I need to add another one |
| 04:00.18 | QBFreak | no sense setting all the paths by hand when sed can do it for you :) |
| 04:01.21 | mheath | I also had a cool idea for a monitoring GUI |
| 04:01.25 | mheath | This is designed for small sites |
| 04:01.35 | mheath | home, personal interests, etc. Just common things you can roll out in a jiffy |
| 04:01.40 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 04:01.50 | mheath | So I figured, a lot of these machines are going to have monitors and keyboards, or at aleast a video card and the possibliity |
| 04:02.07 | mheath | A minimal X11 server, that shows a GUI with lots of quick utilities, as well as a plethora of monitoring info |
| 04:02.14 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 04:02.20 | mheath | Minimal GUI, just info and utils. All for your servers |
| 04:02.31 | QBFreak | maybe even a web interface? :) |
| 04:02.55 | mheath | So you can see, in a quick glance....IO usage, disk usage, CPU, memory, users connected.... |
| 04:03.00 | mheath | tweak settings |
| 04:03.01 | mheath | etc |
| 04:03.10 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 04:03.27 | QBFreak | if I had somewhere to put them, I'd get out my dumb terminals for monitoring |
| 04:06.05 | mheath | I'm not sure if I'll ever work on all of this |
| 04:06.18 | mheath | But, as I said...I've been talking about distro ideas for so long.... |
| 04:06.26 | mheath | And any kind of real computer access is going to go away very soon |
| 04:06.31 | QBFreak | hmm, any idea of OEM processors generally come with fans? |
| 04:06.36 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 04:06.36 | mheath | if I get time between now and then, I'd like to work on something |
| 04:06.42 | mheath | QBFreak, they don't. |
| 04:06.47 | QBFreak | didn't think so |
| 04:06.49 | mheath | That is, pretty much, the definition of an OEM processor. |
| 04:06.59 | QBFreak | also lacks a nice warranty too I suppose... |
| 04:07.15 | mheath | OEM processor = just the processor, not all the retail packaging or the fan |
| 04:07.22 | mheath | It'll probably have a warranty. |
| 04:07.24 | QBFreak | yeah, thats what I thought |
| 04:07.34 | QBFreak | isn't it void without their fan though? |
| 04:07.46 | mheath | QBFreak, Actually, I don't know...... |
| 04:07.56 | mheath | All my experience with this stuff comes from working @ Superior Computers |
| 04:07.58 | QBFreak | mine came with one and the warranty was void if I didn't use it |
| 04:08.21 | mheath | and they tack on a 6 year parts and warranty with everything, so any manufacturer warranty was pretty much pointless. |
| 04:08.32 | QBFreak | I wasn't even paying attention and grabbed a 64 bit processor |
| 04:08.37 | mheath | I just know the manufacturer warrantied against initial factory defaults |
| 04:09.01 | mheath | s/defaults/faults/g |
| 04:09.11 | QBFreak | defects |
| 04:09.15 | QBFreak | is what I read :) |
| 04:09.58 | mheath | Will itunes let you redownload stuff you've purchased in the past? |
| 04:10.30 | QBFreak | maybe? |
| 04:11.11 | QBFreak | I tend to stick with MP3 only, those I can play in the car |
| 04:11.46 | mheath | I've only used it to download a few songs |
| 04:12.00 | mheath | they just have a huge library, and its tough to find a trustworthy download site these days. |
| 04:12.16 | mheath | Google for "download music" and I'm sure you'd find thousands of seedy sites |
| 04:12.26 | QBFreak | oh yeah |
| 04:13.02 | QBFreak | nearly all of my music comes from ripped CDs |
| 04:13.13 | QBFreak | although I did purchase some music from calabashmusic.com |
| 04:13.24 | QBFreak | they will let me re-download |
| 04:13.47 | QBFreak | but its all odd stuff you don't find elsewhere, at least not commonly |
| 04:16.49 | QBFreak | *blink* |
| 04:17.11 | QBFreak | I accidentally type 'kalc' instaed of 'kcalc' in the run box, and I get a konqueror window to my website |
| 04:17.25 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 04:17.38 | QBFreak | all I can figure is it did something with my user name and google |
| 04:18.39 | QBFreak | near as I can tell, these processors have identical specs, but the 64-bit one is cheaper |
| 04:18.49 | QBFreak | both AMD Semprons |
| 04:18.52 | QBFreak | I don't get it |
| 04:19.02 | QBFreak | its something liked $15 too |
| 04:19.07 | QBFreak | the difference |
| 04:19.44 | QBFreak | same cache sizes, same socket, same FSB |
| 04:20.10 | QBFreak | same speed, same voltage, same process type |
| 04:20.53 | QBFreak | I'm not familiar enough with these things to know if I can use one just as well as the other without checking more specs on mobo and such |
| 04:22.36 | QBFreak | woah, the board is 64 bit |
| 04:23.21 | QBFreak | so I guess the question is, can I still run "older" software on it? ie: this is gonna get the copy of ME (yeah I know) that the PC it is replacing is running |
| 04:23.45 | QBFreak | its for my sister, supposed to be a cheap PC |
| 04:24.04 | QBFreak | I don't really care what it has as long as it works, the only requirement I was given was not a celeron |
| 04:25.23 | nick125_lappy | providing theres drivers and such.. |
| 04:25.28 | nick125_lappy | you shouldn't have a problem |
| 04:25.48 | nick125_lappy | though, using ME is barbaric these days |
| 04:25.52 | QBFreak | drivers? I don't think that there were 64-bit processors when ME was written |
| 04:26.02 | QBFreak | nick125_lappy: but in this case it means not spending more money |
| 04:26.16 | nick125_lappy | just putting linux on it would also mean not spending more money.. |
| 04:26.27 | QBFreak | I don't know if I could talk my dad into that |
| 04:26.36 | QBFreak | but it did cross my mind :) |
| 04:27.00 | QBFreak | I would imagine for what she does, it would be fine |
| 04:27.01 | mheath | QBFreak, if you spent a little time...... |
| 04:27.11 | mheath | You could get it to look and function very similar |
| 04:27.19 | mheath | Especially as far as most people are concerned |
| 04:27.39 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 04:27.41 | mheath | Slap cedega on there, it will even autorun windows CDs and merge the virtual windows menu into your menu |
| 04:27.59 | QBFreak | she's fairly computer literate, no need to try and doctor it up to "fool" her |
| 04:28.14 | QBFreak | but at the same time, browser, IM, and word processor are plenty |
| 04:28.43 | QBFreak | is there anything light-weight for image manipulation? GIMP would be overkill for resizing, etc |
| 04:29.00 | mheath | theres plenty of things |
| 04:29.02 | nick125_lappy | convert? :) |
| 04:29.10 | QBFreak | something with a nice gui :) |
| 04:29.14 | mheath | I know a lot of the basic gnome image viewers can do stuff like that |
| 04:29.24 | QBFreak | cool |
| 04:29.45 | QBFreak | that would be enough, any of that she does is with whatever was alraedy lying around the computer :) |
| 04:29.49 | QBFreak | nothing fancy |
| 04:30.58 | mheath | make sure you get printing set up properly, thats a big thing |
| 04:30.58 | QBFreak | oh, this would be a big one, even with mplayer and an embedded mplayer firefox plugin I found, I still have issues viewing some video content that I could in windows with no problem |
| 04:31.09 | QBFreak | she watches a lot of movie trailers when bored |
| 04:31.35 | mheath | QBFreak, probably missing some drivers. Do you have the non-free drivers in MPlayer? |
| 04:31.48 | mheath | Most distros, when you "emerge mplayer" or the equiv. don't get those drivers |
| 04:31.51 | QBFreak | I downloaded both codec packs from their site |
| 04:32.02 | mheath | Hmmmm. Thats odd. I've never had any problems. |
| 04:32.20 | QBFreak | of course the other day I discovered the windows ones needed to be in another spot, that may have been my issue |
| 04:32.25 | Mecworks | Happy Easter everyone |
| 04:32.39 | QBFreak | hello |
| 04:32.43 | mheath | Woah, I scared it |
| 04:32.57 | mheath | Running Windows 98 SE...... |
| 04:33.03 | mheath | I installed graphics drivers for this card |
| 04:33.08 | mheath | Then upgrading Microsoft's Direct X |
| 04:33.26 | maquis | Mecworks: happy easter! |
| 04:33.28 | mheath | and the drivers complained that the version of DirectX I'm running is too old |
| 04:33.37 | mheath | They tell me to install a version thats very obsolete now =P |
| 04:33.37 | Mecworks | Thanks maquis! |
| 04:33.43 | Mecworks | Been a while for me... :) |
| 04:36.23 | maquis | yay! peeps! |
| 04:36.40 | maquis | er |
| 04:36.41 | maquis | head |
| 04:36.48 | QBFreak | yahoo movies refuses to work without all of the following: "MSIE or Netscape" (not FF), Windows Media Player, Real Player, Quick Time |
| 04:37.08 | maquis | ~lart pmcnabb |
| 04:37.10 | Mecworks | Peeps are great and the keep for ever. Like twinkies. |
| 04:37.38 | mheath | QBFreak, yeah...whats really frustrating me is that my credit unions internet banking doesn't work with Firefox adblock on |
| 04:37.41 | mheath | I can't understand it |
| 04:37.53 | mheath | Adblock isn't blocking anything - infact, I've whitelisted their site |
| 04:38.02 | mheath | But it works before I install adblock, and doesn't work after. |
| 04:38.19 | QBFreak | hmm, does adblock rename some items? I forget how it works |
| 04:40.02 | QBFreak | I find it frustrating that a lot of places refuse to think of anything but windows |
| 04:40.38 | nick125_lappy | aint there something where you can change the user-agent in ff |
| 04:40.38 | nick125_lappy | ? |
| 04:41.03 | QBFreak | yeah, I need to install that in this profile, iirc this is the only one with all the media plugins |
| 04:43.19 | QBFreak | still requires WM, Real and QuickTime |
| 04:47.56 | QBFreak | yay! new mplayerplug-in fixed it |
| 04:48.34 | QBFreak | I need to see that :) |
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| 04:49.48 | QBFreak | uhoh, I think its in an endless playlist loop, recursive maybe |
| 04:50.00 | levi | Hi, everyone. |
| 04:50.06 | QBFreak | hey |
| 04:51.07 | levi | I became a daddy today. |
| 04:51.16 | QBFreak | congratulations! |
| 04:51.24 | levi | Thanks. :) |
| 04:51.56 | QBFreak | boy or girl? |
| 04:52.51 | levi | girl |
| 04:52.51 | maquis | levi: congrats! |
| 04:52.51 | maquis | levi: name? |
| 04:52.52 | maquis | size? |
| 04:52.52 | maquis | weight? |
| 04:52.52 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:52.52 | maquis | (i assume you don't have pics posted quite yet...) |
| 04:53.20 | levi | maquis: As she was 3 weeks early, we haven't picked a name quite yet. But she's 6lb 7oz and 17cm, born at 2:11pm today. |
| 04:55.48 | QBFreak | hmm, this still isn't being quite as reliable as I'd like |
| 04:56.15 | levi | Okay, forget that, I'll send it from gmail. |
| 04:56.23 | levi | Er, yeah, 17in. |
| 04:56.48 | maquis | levi: that's not bad size-wise, for early... |
| 04:57.03 | maquis | my dad's delivered some that were < 2lbs |
| 04:57.07 | levi | Yow. |
| 04:57.13 | maquis | yeah |
| 04:57.22 | maquis | those ones end up in ICU for a while |
| 05:07.10 | emcnabb | levi: congrats |
| 05:07.20 | levi | emcnabb: Thanks! |
| 05:08.56 | QBFreak | hmm, for the most part this is working, but I seem to be killing firefox every couple of trailers |
| 05:24.37 | levi | OK, internet business taken care of, time to get back to the room. |
| 05:24.51 | QBFreak | arrr |
| 05:24.58 | QBFreak | in KDE there is that nice control panel thing |
| 05:25.06 | QBFreak | how in the heck do you change themes with gnome... |
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| 05:30.47 | mheath | QBFreak, there is in Gnome, too |
| 05:30.51 | mheath | has drag and drop too |
| 05:31.00 | mheath | download a .tar.gz of a theme, just drag it into the window and it installs |
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| 05:31.45 | QBFreak | I finally stumbled across a page that said to open theme:/// in nautilus |
| 05:34.57 | mheath | Thats why I prefer Ubuntu's gnome customizations |
| 05:35.12 | mheath | everythign just integrates better, and settings are easier to change |
| 05:35.34 | QBFreak | if I go the linux route for her, I might give it a try |
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| 06:41.30 | SpecialK | -roulette |
| 06:45.57 | maquis | ~roulette |
| 06:46.00 | ibot | ACTION watches maquis pull the trigger: Click! |
| 07:02.32 | TheDiff | ~russian |
| 07:02.33 | ibot | russian is probably troy says you cannot trust a russian, or #debian-russian |
| 08:01.34 | maquis | @#$%!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 08:01.39 | maquis | *grumble* |
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| 12:05.30 | maquis | ~spell detriment |
| 12:05.36 | maquis | ibot: thanks |
| 12:05.36 | ibot | maquis: sure thing |
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| 12:22.05 | goozbach | morning |
| 12:22.25 | maquis | *grumble* |
| 12:29.51 | goozbach | maquis: go to bed |
| 12:30.59 | maquis | goozbach: if i do, i won't wake up in time to turn this stuff in, and to get to chem class |
| 12:31.07 | maquis | i'll take a nap after chem |
| 12:51.17 | goozbach | hah hah |
| 12:51.29 | maquis | ??? |
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| 13:06.36 | graphyx | so how long until someone here tries to triple boot a mac? |
| 13:09.29 | goozbach | as soon as I get one |
| 13:09.43 | goozbach | a couple paychecks away IOW |
| 13:33.07 | elg | graphyx: as soon as you buy me one |
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| 14:34.05 | elg | -lart goozbach |
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| 14:40.11 | goozbach | ha ha |
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| 15:10.39 | goozbach | anyone here heard of update expert? |
| 15:11.56 | ScytheBlade1 | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 15:11.58 | ScytheBlade1 | IT'S SNOWING |
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| 15:19.16 | goozbach | it's like 70 here |
| 15:19.25 | ScytheBlade1 | You know what |
| 15:19.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Not nice |
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| 15:21.34 | goozbach | I almost slept in my hammock last night |
| 15:21.39 | goozbach | in the back yard |
| 15:21.50 | ScytheBlade1 | . . . |
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| 15:22.10 | maquis | so, i got a funny quote in my email this morning: |
| 15:22.12 | maquis | "Real programmers don't work from 9 to 5. If any real programmers are |
| 15:22.13 | maquis | around at 9am it's because they were up all night." |
| 15:22.19 | maquis | very... fitting |
| 15:22.35 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, horribly fitting |
| 15:22.48 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: yeah |
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| 15:37.03 | goozbach | ~paint Jayce |
| 15:37.05 | ibot | ACTION rains a tape stream of paintballs on Jayce |
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| 15:38.48 | Jayce | goozbach, like those pics? |
| 15:39.20 | goozbach | punk |
| 15:39.21 | goozbach | yup |
| 15:39.24 | goozbach | looked cool |
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| 15:40.51 | maquis | ~beat goozbach |
| 15:40.52 | ibot | ACTION beats goozbach with a wetfish |
| 15:40.54 | maquis | ~lart Jayce |
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| 15:42.45 | Jayce | ~smack maquis |
| 15:42.47 | ibot | ACTION smacks maquis upside the head. |
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| 15:52.18 | elg | maquis: just ordered the p-70 |
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| 15:59.26 | maquis | elg: cool |
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| 16:02.03 | maquis | wow... bad joke |
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| 16:10.50 | elg | who's a bad joke? |
| 16:11.06 | tensai | ~smack maquis |
| 16:11.08 | ibot | ACTION smacks maquis upside the head. |
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| 16:36.35 | ScytheBlade1 | http://photos.brantleyonline.com/main.php?g2_itemId=5282&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 |
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| 17:05.49 | mheath | Oddly, the two are related |
| 17:05.59 | mheath | My nephew is two years old |
| 17:06.17 | mheath | yesterday, my dad had some classical music playing. Handel. |
| 17:06.40 | mheath | "Handel!". Watched a cartoon that features some classical music. He knew the song, at two years ol.d |
| 17:06.42 | mheath | old.* |
| 17:07.01 | graphyx | did you shout haleluia? |
| 17:12.00 | QBFreak | AHG |
| 17:12.19 | QBFreak | I just want to listen to an MP3, it shouldn't be so hard to find something that will play it |
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| 17:15.42 | mheath | Why are there so many builds of GTK for Windows? |
| 17:15.56 | mheath | I mean, come on. I now have 3 copies of it installed, to run as many applications |
| 17:16.23 | QBFreak | I imagine because of all the different ways to build OSS under windows |
| 17:20.43 | obfuscated | harleypig: ping |
| 17:21.28 | harleypig | obfuscated: pong |
| 17:22.11 | obfuscated | what's your e-mail address? |
| 17:23.23 | tensai | seemythong@harleypig.com, isn't it? |
| 17:24.35 | obfuscated | for some reason I can't priv msg harleypig |
| 17:24.38 | obfuscated | weird |
| 17:24.57 | tensai | did you identify to nickserv? |
| 17:25.25 | tensai | pm is disabled for unidentified users, unless harleypig manually allows them |
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| 17:26.53 | obfuscated | ah - that would be why |
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| 17:29.31 | tensai | or you can trick harleypig into typing /msg nickserv set unfiltered on |
| 17:30.19 | mheath | This is just a pain, though.... |
| 17:30.22 | mheath | I have to ask my self |
| 17:30.33 | mheath | Is the GTK that GIMP uses compatible with the X-Chat windows GTK? |
| 17:30.36 | mheath | Or perhaps the GAIM GTK? |
| 17:30.37 | elg | mheath: just another manifestation of DLL |
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| 17:30.54 | QBFreak | mheath: I think they are not compatible with each other, but I never actually tried very hard |
| 17:31.08 | mheath | I know I got one compatability once, between one of those |
| 17:31.14 | mheath | But I can't remember which it was =\ |
| 17:31.22 | mheath | None of them build their own GTKs |
| 17:31.36 | mheath | they all rely on external gtk-for-windows apps |
| 17:32.53 | mheath | the problem is, they all rely on DIFFERENT external gtk-for-windows libs |
| 17:35.13 | mheath | Hmmm. I need a web host.... |
| 17:36.37 | QBFreak | http://www.dreamhost.com/rewards.cgi?qbfreak |
| 17:36.39 | QBFreak | :) |
| 17:37.51 | mheath | Nah |
| 17:38.00 | mheath | I would go with those guys.... |
| 17:38.10 | mheath | but I'm really just looking for a small and reliable place to host a personal site and blog |
| 17:38.19 | mheath | Maybe svn or cvs for some coding |
| 17:38.35 | tensai | if it's just a blog, why not blogger.com? |
| 17:38.56 | QBFreak | not sure what all plans its on, but they have a one-click install for svn :) |
| 17:39.25 | mheath | tensai, well...a personal site. It'd be nice to have a little more room and flexibility. |
| 17:39.34 | QBFreak | hmm, maybe not one click but they do have a web interface to set it up |
| 17:39.49 | QBFreak | they also have one-click install for wordpress |
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| 17:46.00 | hans | -lart tensai |
| 17:46.31 | tensai | ow. my pretty face. |
| 17:48.31 | mheath | Wow, restraunt sanitation scares me. |
| 17:48.40 | mheath | Some aspects of it |
| 17:49.59 | harleypig | tensai: Thanks! I'll get that setup right away. |
| 17:50.29 | mheath | Working with our cooks last night.... |
| 17:50.38 | mheath | The sad thing is, we're way, way, way better than many places |
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| 17:51.43 | maquis | ~welcome brac |
| 17:51.44 | ibot | Hey, brac! Glad you could join us. |
| 17:52.22 | graphyx | -lart ibot |
| 17:53.02 | hans | he keeps crashing. not sure why |
| 17:53.40 | tensai | it's ruby's fault, I'm sure |
| 17:56.05 | hans | or maybe the ruby programmer, more likely |
| 17:56.06 | findlay | ~blame rubies |
| 17:56.08 | ibot | ACTION blames rubies for the end of the world as we know it |
| 17:58.22 | findlay | who would win between Yoda and a Balrog? |
| 18:08.24 | Hhhhhh | findlay, lol |
| 18:12.43 | QBFreak | mheath: how does it scare you/ |
| 18:14.52 | QBFreak | personally I liked it when you could use telnet, it was better than the web systems they keep using |
| 18:15.56 | QBFreak | the first tab of my saved session is always blank when I open it back up |
| 18:16.05 | QBFreak | thankfully it has not emptied my cart yet |
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| 18:17.41 | QBFreak | it doesn't even work right in FF |
| 18:19.21 | QBFreak | BAH I could have sworn I returned those books on time, I owe $0.80 at a library nearly an hour away... |
| 18:19.34 | griffeymac | Woo hoo! |
| 18:19.54 | griffeymac | (I passed the RHCT!) |
| 18:19.58 | QBFreak | yay |
| 18:20.25 | griffeymac | (Sorry for the outburst... ;) |
| 18:20.25 | graphyx | good job griffeymac |
| 18:20.26 | graphyx | Are you a gurulabs guy? |
| 18:20.31 | QBFreak | only interupting my my whining :) |
| 18:21.01 | griffeymac | No--I'm at the University of Illinois in Urbana. |
| 18:21.31 | griffeymac | emcnabb was my instructor last week. |
| 18:21.54 | graphyx | heh. |
| 18:22.02 | graphyx | That is why I haven't seen you around before. |
| 18:23.13 | jsmith | griffeymac: Small world -- my sister-in-law and her husband both go to school there. |
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| 18:30.24 | griffeymac | Cool! |
| 18:31.25 | griffeymac | What do they study? |
| 18:31.53 | goozbach | another person stalking emcnabb??? |
| 18:31.58 | goozbach | :) |
| 18:32.09 | griffeymac | (Well now that I passed this RHCT thing I suppose I can stop....) |
| 18:32.17 | griffeymac | ;) |
| 18:32.33 | goozbach | emcnabb, and his followers |
| 18:32.48 | griffeymac | Well, I needed a new IRC home anyway, and you people seem nice enough. |
| 18:33.13 | goozbach | pull up a chair |
| 18:33.15 | goozbach | welcome |
| 18:33.18 | goozbach | ~lart griffeymac |
| 18:33.27 | goozbach | now you're really a member |
| 18:33.29 | goozbach | :) |
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| 18:34.28 | QBFreak | darned phone delay, I intended to say that right after you said we were nice enough |
| 18:36.03 | findlay | yoda would definitely kick the balrog's trash |
| 18:37.13 | findlay | goozbach: maybe they fell into the bit bucket? |
| 18:37.41 | QBFreak | yay, another phishing site went down |
| 18:39.21 | goozbach | findlay: who knows |
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| 18:45.56 | emcnabb | griffeymac: congrats! |
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| 18:46.40 | emcnabb | jsmith: what are their names? |
| 18:47.01 | goozbach | findlay: none of us ever really leave |
| 18:47.10 | graphyx | QBFreak: you feeding false data into phishing sites? |
| 18:47.45 | mheath | I've always considered setting up a small, empty bank acount |
| 18:47.48 | graphyx | Old IRCers never die, they just get deeply into idlerpg! |
| 18:47.53 | mheath | give it to phishing sites |
| 18:47.58 | mheath | wait until someone tries to access it |
| 18:48.05 | mheath | then seak the FBI on 'em. |
| 18:48.25 | graphyx | Go for it. |
| 18:48.34 | graphyx | Have a kid and use that SSN for it. |
| 18:48.38 | QBFreak | graphyx: yeah, I've got a script I wrote that generates cc numbers that pass the mod10 test |
| 18:48.44 | graphyx | nice. |
| 18:48.55 | QBFreak | at the moment I have a shell script that uses it to stuff the common paypal sites |
| 18:48.57 | graphyx | QBFreak: I was wondering what you were doing for the bank account stuff. |
| 18:49.10 | graphyx | Perl? |
| 18:49.25 | QBFreak | so far all of the ones Iv'e come across are the same out-of-the-box design, I think someone is selling a paypal site look alike :) |
| 18:49.28 | emcnabb | jsmith: I grew up in Champaign and my family still lives there |
| 18:49.41 | QBFreak | the ccnum is generated in perl, the rest is a shell script, BASH |
| 18:49.41 | graphyx | Do you go out of your way to find them or just the ones that land in your in box? |
| 18:49.47 | QBFreak | just the ones in my inbox |
| 18:49.50 | graphyx | Ok, thats cool. |
| 18:50.01 | QBFreak | if I write something sturdier I might start collecting them |
| 18:50.23 | griffeymac | emcnabb: thanks! |
| 18:50.24 | graphyx | I bet you could find a website of people doing that sort of thing. |
| 18:50.59 | mrpull- | QBFreak: websense has a nice page with an RSS feed for phishers |
| 18:51.02 | QBFreak | I looked around a little, didn't see anything |
| 18:51.04 | mrpull- | QBFreak: http://www.websensesecuritylabs.com/alerts/ |
| 18:51.10 | brac | [Websense Security Labs - Websense Alerts] |
| 18:53.21 | mheath | Hmm |
| 18:53.36 | mheath | I don't suppose anyone has a spare Sun keyboard + mouse? |
| 18:53.52 | QBFreak | nope |
| 18:53.54 | graphyx | I don't have any Sun keyboard or mouse at all. |
| 18:54.13 | mheath | I accidentally gave away the cable for mine in my last batch of donations to the DI. |
| 18:54.16 | QBFreak | the only odd keyboards I have are one for an XT and one for a KayPro |
| 18:54.28 | graphyx | XT isn't odd, just old. |
| 18:54.37 | mheath | I got rid of a bunch of computer stuff, and the cable for mine ended up in the wrong box |
| 18:54.47 | QBFreak | uncommon, whatever :p |
| 18:55.24 | mheath | I'd like to get a server set up...... |
| 18:57.10 | emcnabb | graphyx: didn't you give me an old Sparc 5 once? |
| 18:57.20 | graphyx | I may have. |
| 18:57.23 | graphyx | I can't recall. |
| 18:57.35 | Supaplex | I should fire mine up someday $soon |
| 18:57.39 | graphyx | If I did, it's been a long time. |
| 18:57.58 | mheath | BTW, I'm going to start getting rid of a lot of my computer stuff |
| 18:58.08 | mheath | All of it's got to go. |
| 18:58.29 | emcnabb | mheath: what do you have? |
| 18:58.43 | mheath | Not much (Lots of P2-era parts, a Sun Ultra Enterprise 1+Monitor, A laserjet printer) |
| 18:58.58 | mheath | A smaller VGA monitor (~16 inches) |
| 18:59.22 | mheath | Keyboards (one with a builtin handrest and extra buttons, but its PeoplePC branded) |
| 18:59.31 | QBFreak | if you scrap the P2s I'd pay shipping for the RAM |
| 18:59.46 | mheath | QBFreak, *parts*. No RAM,really. |
| 19:00.03 | QBFreak | sounds like my stuff |
| 19:00.09 | mheath | Motherboards, procs, several cases........ |
| 19:00.15 | QBFreak | lotsa whatever, not really much assembled and working |
| 19:00.28 | mheath | Sound cards, generic AGP card, network cards.... |
| 19:00.37 | QBFreak | 10/100? |
| 19:00.43 | mheath | I do have a new 2 way KVM switch |
| 19:00.47 | mheath | QBFreak, Yeah |
| 19:01.02 | mheath | And I have one fully working Pentium III |
| 19:01.06 | QBFreak | I'm short on those again, I seem to have fried about three in a row |
| 19:01.07 | mheath | With 256MB of RAM |
| 19:02.54 | QBFreak | what do you want for the NICs? |
| 19:03.09 | QBFreak | I'd ask about the KVM but I've already got one and I really shouldn't be spendning money :) |
| 19:03.13 | emcnabb | is anyone else having problems connecting to MSN messenger right now? |
| 19:03.29 | QBFreak | with GAIM |
| 19:04.12 | emcnabb | hum, ok; I'm using Gaim, but I keep on getting "The MSN messenger servers are unavailable" |
| 19:04.40 | QBFreak | maybe the logon server is down or something |
| 19:06.21 | mrpull- | emcnabb: i've gotten a couple of "wrong password" errors with Trillian + MSN the last couple days |
| 19:06.38 | goozbach | a word to the wise: don't try and rename your home directory while logged in |
| 19:06.41 | mrpull- | emcnabb: possibly related |
| 19:06.43 | goozbach | it's bad |
| 19:06.45 | QBFreak | goozbach: heh |
| 19:06.46 | goozbach | :) |
| 19:07.03 | QBFreak | mrpull-: I wish I could ifnd something I like as much as Trillian for linux |
| 19:07.11 | emcnabb | mrpull-: could be |
| 19:07.39 | emcnabb | QBFreak: I tried out Trillian a few weeks ago and didn't really like it |
| 19:07.56 | mrpull- | i've used trillian for a few years now... it works well for me |
| 19:07.58 | emcnabb | maybe I'm just used to the Gaim way of doing things :-) |
| 19:08.10 | QBFreak | maybe |
| 19:08.26 | mrpull- | i like the spell checker and aim+yahoo+msn+irc+whatever |
| 19:08.28 | QBFreak | I had a handful of plugins for it that I used |
| 19:08.46 | mrpull- | it is a memory hog, but it seems better than running all of the separate apps alone. |
| 19:10.03 | mrpull- | their beta's are notoriously leaky too... but it has been stable for some time now. |
| 19:10.57 | wps | I have a question about fiber internet, such as utopia |
| 19:11.13 | wps | there is fiber running down the street, but it is just ethernet up to your house, right? |
| 19:13.03 | JoshH | with utopia, the fiber goes all the way into the utopia access point |
| 19:13.26 | QBFreak | UAP? is that pronounced yap? :) |
| 19:15.02 | jlp_work | wps: it's supposed to be fiber to the demarc (i.e., the box on the back of your house) |
| 19:15.43 | QBFreak | any particular brands of RAM any of you swear by? |
| 19:15.53 | jlp_work | of course, I can't confirm that with personal experience because my neighborhood just happens to be one of those scheduled for utopia phase 2 deployment instead of phase 1 (even though I'm right smack in the middle of murray) |
| 19:17.03 | goozbach | :( |
| 19:18.28 | QBFreak | any idea of Patriot is any good? they seem to be somewhat popular I think |
| 19:22.30 | JoshH | i think it depends what kind of system it's going to be QBFreak |
| 19:22.54 | QBFreak | Duron 1.8Ghz |
| 19:22.55 | JoshH | for a server, i would probably want something that is just considered good and reliable, like crucial, but if it was a gaming box, i might want some that is known to be good for overclocking |
| 19:23.07 | QBFreak | something for my sister to use |
| 19:23.19 | QBFreak | it just has to work :) |
| 19:23.20 | JoshH | just get crucial or something then |
| 19:25.56 | QBFreak | in the past I've used Mushkin, I've got one older box (K6-2) that is running a who knows what, two different offbrands IIRC, been doing that happily for years :) |
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| 19:29.51 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 19:30.12 | QBFreak | I think I saw that on CSI once |
| 19:30.30 | sjansen | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 19:30.38 | sjansen | Sic semper tyrannis! |
| 19:31.00 | emcnabb | sjansen: get back to work |
| 19:33.20 | Jayce^ | ~lart sjansen |
| 19:33.36 | Jayce^ | heh, at least sjansen is back in the closet |
| 19:34.27 | emcnabb | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 19:34.50 | Jayce^ | ~cook emcnabb |
| 19:34.51 | ibot | ACTION throws emcnabb in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks emcnabb on 350 for an hour |
| 19:35.14 | graphyx | ~stfu everybody |
| 19:35.22 | QBFreak | never! |
| 19:35.32 | graphyx | ibot aparently doesn't have that command. |
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| 19:36.37 | QBFreak | the thing I like about Mushkin is I know if I ever have any issue with it at all they're replace it |
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| 19:42.10 | harleypig | anyone familiar enough with tinydns to give me some help setting up an mx record for gmail? |
| 19:49.45 | sjansen | QBFreak: That's a good thing, right? |
| 19:50.13 | emcnabb | QBFreak: see, it happened to you too :-) |
| 19:51.59 | QBFreak | doesn't bother me, MSNM is a last resort for me :) |
| 19:52.19 | QBFreak | I think everyone I have there I also have another account for on another service |
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| 19:55.15 | findlay | sjansen: what's wrong with bricolage? |
| 20:02.37 | griffeymac | emcnabb: MSN burped for me, but it was maybe 4 hours ago--it's been fine this afternoon. |
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| 20:03.04 | QBFreak | I appear to be signed back on |
| 20:03.26 | QBFreak | ibot: are you harassing channel-goers again? |
| 20:03.32 | QBFreak | ibot: look what you did! |
| 20:03.40 | QBFreak | ~lart ibot |
| 20:03.41 | graphyx | lars-ut: lol.. |
| 20:03.55 | QBFreak | I suppose I had that coming |
| 20:04.06 | findlay | is the plug.org site bricolage? |
| 20:04.15 | lars-ut | ~emulate Ms Bitters |
| 20:04.16 | ibot | Everything was so nice and peaceful, 'til one day it all went horribly wrong! |
| 20:04.29 | lars-ut | ~emulate simon |
| 20:04.30 | ibot | Some guys are chasing after Cocofang! |
| 20:04.36 | griffeymac | Okay, I'll see you folks later--I have to go get the kids... |
| 20:04.42 | findlay | ~emulate ibot |
| 20:04.43 | ibot | ACTION crashes |
| 20:04.44 | lars-ut | graphyx: what? |
| 20:04.55 | findlay | later |
| 20:05.04 | graphyx | lars-ut: The ibot logon statement |
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| 20:05.50 | lars-ut | graphyx: ah. well, I'm motivated well by pain and to another degree the perceptions of others |
| 20:06.14 | findlay | ~praise lars-ut |
| 20:06.16 | ibot | All hail lars-ut! |
| 20:06.20 | graphyx | Did you put that one on your self? |
| 20:06.25 | lars-ut | yup. |
| 20:06.27 | graphyx | ok |
| 20:06.39 | graphyx | I thought herlo had or something. |
| 20:06.54 | QBFreak | ibot: onjoin brac Impostor! |
| 20:06.54 | ibot | QBFreak: ok |
| 20:07.00 | lars-ut | herlo did put one on there for lars-ut-away |
| 20:07.35 | lars-ut | ~onjoin lars-ut-away |
| 20:07.35 | ibot | onjoin for lars-ut-away set by lars-ut-away on Tue Feb 7 07:28:03 2006: Away, or not away, lars-ut-away... |
| 20:08.07 | findlay | ~offsplit |
| 20:08.48 | QBFreak | you mean offpart? |
| 20:09.35 | findlay | ~offpart |
| 20:10.27 | lars-ut | Apparently my anime cardstyle summoning Fu is not so strong. |
| 20:11.13 | graphyx | try invoke. |
| 20:11.14 | lars-ut | ibot you're useless |
| 20:11.15 | ibot | ACTION starts crying and hides from lars-ut in the darkest corner of the room. :( |
| 20:11.25 | graphyx | Maybe you will be lucky. |
| 20:11.49 | graphyx | rub his lamp? |
| 20:12.43 | emcnabb | ~lart lars-ut |
| 20:12.53 | lars-ut | maybe random peek & poke statements in Applesoft Basic could get him here - I here you can open a wormhole that way. |
| 20:13.12 | lars-ut | s/I here/I hear |
| 20:13.21 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:13.26 | graphyx | 10 print "~invoke dataw0lf" |
| 20:13.29 | graphyx | 20 goto 10 |
| 20:13.30 | graphyx | 30 end |
| 20:14.25 | lars-ut | "You do a loopty-loop and pull..." |
| 20:14.40 | lars-ut | "and your shoes are lookin' good!" |
| 20:17.17 | lars-ut | http://www.lyricsdownload.com/spongebob-squarepants-loop-de-loop-by-ween-your-shoe-s-untied-lyrics.html |
| 20:17.18 | brac | [Spongebob Squarepants - Loop De Loop (By Ween Your Shoe's Untied) LYRICS] |
| 20:17.26 | goozbach | invoke only works for me |
| 20:17.36 | goozbach | when my script's enabled |
| 20:18.08 | lars-ut | frakkin' floridians. invoking and stuff. |
| 20:20.04 | lars-ut | http://www.pcclub.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=18200 |
| 20:20.51 | findlay | what's a girl? |
| 20:21.01 | goozbach | who's the vim expert? |
| 20:21.04 | goozbach | hans? |
| 20:21.22 | goozbach | I'm having a <Plug> mapping issue |
| 20:21.23 | lars-ut | findlay: ask goozbach |
| 20:21.33 | goozbach | ~girl |
| 20:21.34 | ibot | "if you dont believe in the existance of evil, you have a lot to learn" |
| 20:22.00 | goozbach | ibot put it perfectly |
| 20:22.16 | lars-ut | ~literal girl |
| 20:22.17 | ibot | "girl" is "<reply> "if you dont believe in the existance of evil, you have a lot to learn"" |
| 20:22.18 | findlay | those things must be beyond my comprehension |
| 20:22.35 | goozbach | I want to map an internal ftplugin to ";c" |
| 20:22.59 | goozbach | s/ftplugin/ftplugin <plug>/ |
| 20:23.09 | goozbach | but it doesn't seem to be working |
| 20:23.19 | lars-ut | no, girl is <reply> \"If you don\'t believe in the existence of evil, you have a lot to learn\" |
| 20:24.10 | findlay | goozbach: did you put <cr> at the end? |
| 20:24.18 | lars-ut | ~girl |
| 20:24.19 | ibot | "If you don't believe in the existence of evil, you have a lot to learn" |
| 20:27.37 | goozbach | findlay: neither way it works |
| 20:29.04 | findlay | goozbach: maybe you have to swap the order in the remap definition |
| 20:29.35 | findlay | map <new key control> <function> |
| 20:29.46 | goozbach | I just found that I had two concurent specfile plugins |
| 20:29.53 | goozbach | I deleted the one in my homedir |
| 20:30.07 | goozbach | let me go through the steps again to see if it will work |
| 20:31.46 | lars-ut | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16855182001 |
| 20:31.49 | brac | [Vantec Black AVOX Jukebox Portable Audio/Video Player Model AVX-100TX - Retail at Newegg.com] |
| 20:32.06 | goozbach | GAA!!! |
| 20:32.12 | lars-ut | MUAHAHA |
| 20:32.23 | goozbach | and heads home for the day |
| 20:32.32 | lars-ut | vim kickin' your butt? |
| 20:33.28 | findlay | goozbach: want to trade timezones? I'll go home for you (: |
| 20:34.07 | lars-ut | findlay: stop messing with the space/time continuum |
| 20:34.21 | findlay | ~hawking lars-ut |
| 20:34.50 | lars-ut | ~steal findlay's melange |
| 20:34.52 | ibot | ACTION grabs findlay's melange and gives it to lars-ut |
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| 20:37.58 | findlay | spice thief! |
| 20:38.37 | dataw0lf | :D |
| 20:39.17 | goozbach | joss is my master now |
| 20:39.21 | lars-ut | lol |
| 20:39.33 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 20:39.34 | goozbach | I just bought firefly |
| 20:39.43 | dataw0lf | love Firefly |
| 20:39.48 | dataw0lf | the boxed DVD set? |
| 20:39.53 | goozbach | watched it all the way through, in one sitting, for the third time |
| 20:39.55 | goozbach | dataw0lf: yup |
| 20:40.04 | dataw0lf | yea, that DVD set is pretty nifty. |
| 20:40.10 | lars-ut | goozbach: I saw it in the theater when it came out with several fans - it was a blast |
| 20:40.21 | dataw0lf | has Lost came out with a boxed set yet? |
| 20:40.32 | goozbach | lars-ut: Serenity? |
| 20:40.37 | dataw0lf | that's the only other series I'll actually consider buying on DVD besides Firefly and Sopranos |
| 20:40.38 | lars-ut | yes |
| 20:40.43 | goozbach | I'm talking the entire series |
| 20:40.46 | lars-ut | ah. |
| 20:40.55 | goozbach | ~12hrs of TV |
| 20:40.56 | dataw0lf | goozbach: what's your favorite episode? |
| 20:41.05 | goozbach | hmm |
| 20:41.19 | goozbach | "safe" probally |
| 20:41.38 | dataw0lf | they're all really good, to be honest. |
| 20:41.49 | goozbach | mostly because I want to know who Book used to be |
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| 20:42.09 | goozbach | methinks he's a reformed "operative" |
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| 20:43.58 | dataw0lf | goozbach: that really bugs me. |
| 20:44.06 | lars-ut | are there operative characters in the series? |
| 20:44.11 | dataw0lf | goozbach: although I understand the reasoning behind just leaving it mysterious. |
| 20:44.24 | dataw0lf | lars-ut: um, well, not really. |
| 20:44.53 | dataw0lf | the final episode has a operative-like character. |
| 20:45.02 | lars-ut | I've only seen maybe 4eps of the series & the movie release |
| 20:45.17 | dataw0lf | you want a copy of the series? |
| 20:45.30 | lars-ut | I've got one available |
| 20:45.44 | goozbach | dataw0lf: that guy is more of a bounty hunter |
| 20:45.50 | goozbach | mercinary |
| 20:45.56 | lars-ut | dataw0lf: watching other things first |
| 20:46.21 | goozbach | the operative is a career military man |
| 20:46.33 | goozbach | and methinks book was too |
| 20:46.53 | dataw0lf | goozbachyea, I know he's a bounty hunter, but he is reminiscient of the operative. |
| 20:49.30 | findlay | who would win between Darth Vader and Gandalf? |
| 20:49.53 | lars-ut | ~pimpslap findlay |
| 20:49.54 | ibot | lars-ut pimpslaps findlay. ouch! |
| 20:52.11 | Jayce^ | man, it's getting time to do firefily again, maybe after we finish 'The Tick' during work lunches |
| 20:52.11 | *** part/#utah lars-ut (n=lars-ut@70.103.228.158) |
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| 20:52.12 | graphyx | firefily? Is that some new age my little pony? |
| 20:52.12 | graphyx | ;) |
| 20:52.30 | lars-ut | ~pummel ibot |
| 20:52.46 | lars-ut | ~dict pummel |
| 20:53.02 | graphyx | lace? |
| 20:53.06 | graphyx | Didn't know that one. |
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| 21:00.44 | harleypig | It's all Jayce^ fault! |
| 21:01.48 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 21:02.03 | harleypig | I upgraded to Dapper Dan just now and my x installation is b0rked! |
| 21:02.32 | harleypig | ever so gently? |
| 21:02.45 | harleypig | would that i nclude the use of a cattle prod? |
| 21:05.50 | dataw0lf | harleypig: hey, it's prerelease, use at your own risk. |
| 21:07.06 | harleypig | dataw0lf: I refuse to accept responsibility |
| 21:07.18 | dataw0lf | you sound like a politician! |
| 21:07.21 | harleypig | besides, it's all Jayce^ fault. |
| 21:07.29 | harleypig | heh |
| 21:08.29 | findlay | what domainname should I get? |
| 21:08.38 | findlay | everybody brainstorm for findlay |
| 21:08.43 | Jayce^ | whatdomainnameshouldiget.com |
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| 21:08.57 | findlay | everybody.com brainstorm.com for.com findlay.com |
| 21:09.26 | sjansen | Man, this training center really understands the importance of staying hydrated. They've got 10 types of teen, hot chocolate, coffee, a cappucino machine, a free soda machine, milk, water with slices of lemon, water with slices of orange, and more. |
| 21:09.45 | sjansen | mynameisjayceandiamaweenie.com |
| 21:09.48 | mheath | mmm, liquid teen. |
| 21:09.55 | JoshH | teen? |
| 21:10.04 | sjansen | s/teen/tea/ |
| 21:10.07 | goozbach | findlay: www.hairybanana.com |
| 21:10.15 | Jayce^ | with sjansen you never know |
| 21:10.19 | mheath | Its all worthless. |
| 21:10.24 | Jayce^ | goozbach, you had to mention that with harleypig around.... |
| 21:10.24 | mheath | All you need is water. |
| 21:10.29 | mheath | Good clean H2O :) |
| 21:10.36 | findlay | h2o.com |
| 21:10.57 | findlay | elsewhere.com |
| 21:11.11 | mheath | BTW, does anyone have a computer they're looking to get rid of? (complete, functioning) |
| 21:11.12 | sjansen | Oh come on Jayce^, you know you politiced to get harleypig hired because you hoped he'd show up for work in biking shorts during the summer. |
| 21:11.37 | mheath | I'm getting rid of most of my hardware, but I'd like to be left with a functioning computer thats better than what I have right now. |
| 21:11.59 | mheath | Looking for something >= 1Ghz, preferably with an AGP slot rather than builtin graphics |
| 21:12.10 | sjansen | s/biking shorts/a kilt/ |
| 21:12.53 | mheath | A kilt? |
| 21:12.59 | findlay | kilt.com |
| 21:13.01 | mheath | Why a kilt? |
| 21:13.28 | harleypig | utilikilt.com |
| 21:13.33 | JoshH | because seeing him in a kilt is better than seeing him in biking shorts, i would presume |
| 21:13.57 | mheath | Indeed, that is probably true. |
| 21:14.16 | sjansen | JoshH: You should've been here a few years ago when harleypig had an ouchy the clown fixation. |
| 21:14.18 | harleypig | BTW ... I now where spandex ... :> |
| 21:14.23 | sjansen | *shiver* *twitch* *twitch* |
| 21:14.38 | harleypig | s/where/wear/ |
| 21:15.00 | harleypig | My compression stocking is made out of a heavy duty spandex. :> |
| 21:15.16 | harleypig | oh yeah, ouchy ... wonder how he's doing ... |
| 21:15.37 | harleypig | ewww ... kilt.com is a country music station website. |
| 21:15.53 | findlay | well, check that one offf the list |
| 21:15.58 | harleypig | ouchy seems to be going strong. |
| 21:16.08 | harleypig | findlay: the one you want is utilikilt.com |
| 21:16.54 | findlay | harleypig: it's already taken |
| 21:16.58 | findlay | taken.com |
| 21:17.37 | mheath | I was looking for something for my family actually |
| 21:17.46 | mheath | but *heath*.* seems to be pretty much taken |
| 21:17.51 | harleypig | I missed something ... I thought you were trying to find the website that I want to buy a kilt from. |
| 21:18.12 | findlay | sweet.domainname.com |
| 21:18.25 | mheath | harleypig, hey, I have a quick question, maybe you could answer it.....Mind if I PM? |
| 21:18.28 | findlay | rid.iculo.us |
| 21:18.46 | JoshH | that's not too bad |
| 21:18.47 | harleypig | mheath: sure |
| 21:21.47 | harleypig | ihateheadthledger.com? |
| 21:21.59 | harleypig | err ... s/ead/ea/ |
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| 21:22.52 | findlay | sixty-seven.onehundredthirty-seven.twenty-four.onehundredfourteen.info |
| 21:25.40 | findlay | ~rot13 sixty-seven.onehundredthirty-seven.twenty-four.onehundredfourteen.info |
| 21:25.40 | ibot | fvkgl-frira.baruhaqerqguvegl-frira.gjragl-sbhe.baruhaqerqsbhegrra.vasb |
| 21:25.47 | findlay | that's it! |
| 21:25.59 | mheath | oops, I tried to PM, forgot you had to identify (thought I was...) first |
| 21:26.04 | mheath | Give this another try, harleypig |
| 21:26.23 | findlay | ~rot13 findlay |
| 21:26.23 | ibot | svaqynl |
| 21:26.49 | goozbach | it's blasted hot |
| 21:27.14 | goozbach | ~rot12 goozbach |
| 21:27.14 | ibot | saalnmot |
| 21:27.28 | findlay | blasted.com |
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| 21:29.42 | maquis | ~roast goozbach |
| 21:29.52 | maquis | ~cook goozbach |
| 21:29.53 | ibot | ACTION throws goozbach in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks goozbach on 350 for an hour |
| 21:31.57 | shadow_moon | Hello ibot |
| 21:34.28 | goozbach | ~introduce yourself |
| 21:35.08 | shadow_moon | ~introduce shadow_moon |
| 21:35.18 | shadow_moon | I'm confused |
| 21:35.32 | dataw0lf | heh |
| 21:35.38 | harleypig | I thought you were shadow_moon |
| 21:35.54 | shadow_moon | I am I think. |
| 21:36.05 | shadow_moon | Not sure what ~introduce means |
| 21:36.29 | dataw0lf | it's a command |
| 21:36.31 | harleypig | goozbach: was hoping ~introduce was a command out bot would understand. |
| 21:36.33 | dataw0lf | ibot is a bot |
| 21:36.43 | shadow_moon | I guessed that. |
| 21:36.45 | mheath | ~welcome shadow_moon |
| 21:36.47 | ibot | Hey, shadow_moon! Glad you could join us. |
| 21:36.57 | shadow_moon | ah thanks. |
| 21:37.04 | shadow_moon | ~cook shadow_moon |
| 21:37.05 | ibot | ACTION throws shadow_moon in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks shadow_moon on 350 for an hour |
| 21:37.22 | goozbach | ~bzfrag shadow_moon |
| 21:37.23 | ibot | ACTION blindsides shadow_moon with an invisible bullet |
| 21:37.25 | mheath | ibot: be nice! |
| 21:37.27 | ibot | rumour has it, be nice is don't be mean, be nice.. |
| 21:37.54 | mheath | harleypig, Ah, BTW, I found out the answer to my question. Thanks, though! :) |
| 21:38.01 | harleypig | np |
| 21:38.44 | goozbach | how much TV am I going to be watching??? |
| 21:38.45 | goozbach | hmm |
| 21:38.56 | shadow_moon | 3 hours? |
| 21:39.09 | shadow_moon | or None cause I need you to mow my lawn? |
| 21:39.23 | mheath | harleypig, Its going to be neat, though, having him do it rather than some faceless MEPs officer. |
| 21:39.33 | goozbach | digital basic is $60/month |
| 21:39.37 | goozbach | ouch |
| 21:39.43 | shadow_moon | I got basic basic |
| 21:39.51 | shadow_moon | 12.00 for 25 channels. |
| 21:39.55 | mheath | goozbach, well worth it, though. |
| 21:40.05 | mheath | I consider basic digital to be the best option, really. |
| 21:40.06 | shadow_moon | dont' have cnn / foxnews / espn / other godo channels. |
| 21:40.24 | mheath | Good selection of channels, but you're not paying for an excessive amount |
| 21:41.12 | findlay | how much does the channel #utah cost? |
| 21:41.24 | shadow_moon | It's priceless. |
| 21:41.32 | shadow_moon | Send payment to .... |
| 21:41.50 | mheath | ~lart shadow_moon |
| 21:42.23 | findlay | priceless.com |
| 21:43.24 | findlay | ~eat shadow_moon |
| 21:43.25 | ibot | ACTION eats shadow_moon and falls over dead |
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| 21:49.00 | harleypig | well, on the plus side, it seems I can now use my wireless card with smp enabled |
| 21:49.11 | harleypig | but I can't seem to get nvidia to work under smp. |
| 21:49.18 | shadow_moon | strange |
| 21:49.24 | shadow_moon | never had any problems with nvidia |
| 21:49.30 | shadow_moon | amd mp? |
| 21:49.42 | shadow_moon | I did have to change a pci option in X |
| 21:51.09 | findlay | ~lart nvidia |
| 21:51.14 | findlay | yeah |
| 21:51.28 | hell-ro | dataw0lf: welcome back, its herlo |
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| 21:51.46 | hell-ro | even though it says hell-ro |
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| 21:52.15 | hell-ro | had a couple questions for you about the installer for my flash drive, gotta sec? |
| 21:53.50 | findlay | ~give hell-ro a sec |
| 21:53.51 | ibot | ACTION gives a sec to hell-ro |
| 21:54.23 | hell-ro | thank you findlay... |
| 21:54.38 | hell-ro | ~lart findlay |
| 21:54.50 | hell-ro | let me repeat |
| 21:54.55 | hell-ro | dataw0lf: had a couple questions for you about the installer for my flash drive, gotta sec? |
| 21:55.31 | RyanE | hell-ro: what kind of installer? what kind of flash drive? (curiosity) |
| 21:56.27 | hell-ro | http://www.feraga.com/node/25 - |
| 21:56.46 | hell-ro | on a 1GB flash drive, the one I've got on my keychain |
| 21:56.55 | hell-ro | RyanE, that's it above |
| 21:57.11 | RyanE | and what are you installing on it? |
| 21:57.17 | RyanE | you booting with it? |
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| 21:57.43 | hell-ro | booting |
| 21:57.44 | RyanE | aha, I see in the link. |
| 21:57.49 | RyanE | groovy |
| 21:58.23 | hell-ro | RyanE: yeah, it works pretty well, I got it to boot, but there isn't much more too it. I am kinda stuck in the fact that I am not sure how to proceed from here and want some advice.... |
| 21:58.53 | RyanE | are you installing linux per those instructions, or something else? |
| 21:59.05 | hell-ro | linux (Ubuntu) |
| 21:59.30 | hell-ro | I changed the apt sources.list stuff |
| 22:00.04 | dataw0lf | hell-ro: what's up/ |
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| 22:01.21 | hell-ro | just curious after I get it to boot, it seems that there is a bunch of stuff missing, like being able to run any command that's not a built in, just wondering what I would need to do now to get it to do more. Any suggestions? |
| 22:01.33 | dataw0lf | what particular commands? |
| 22:01.41 | dataw0lf | you're going to need to apt-get any particulars. |
| 22:01.58 | hell-ro | ahh, okay, that makes sense |
| 22:02.10 | hell-ro | I didn't try that |
| 22:02.24 | dataw0lf | hehe, yea, make sure your sources.list is good to go, and you should be fine. |
| 22:02.49 | dataw0lf | I'm amazed you didn't run into initrd problems with Ubuntu |
| 22:02.58 | dataw0lf | which release did you use? |
| 22:02.59 | hell-ro | dataw0lf: I was trying to just simply run /bin/bash and it didn't seem to work, plus I built the root based login and it just logged me in. I suppose its supposed to do that? |
| 22:03.11 | dataw0lf | huh |
| 22:03.18 | dataw0lf | sounds like you could have initrd problems :) |
| 22:03.29 | dataw0lf | one sec |
| 22:03.37 | dataw0lf | gotta go fix this raid again. |
| 22:03.39 | hell-ro | yeah, probably, that's why I am asking. I get a # prompt, but really can't do much else. |
| 22:03.41 | dataw0lf | I abhor advfs |
| 22:03.53 | dataw0lf | hell-ro: ok, I gotta go fix something, but I'll tell you what the problem is briefly |
| 22:04.03 | dataw0lf | the initrd of Ubuntu doesn't like to load the usb drivers |
| 22:04.23 | dataw0lf | the initrd is the initial ram disk, it loads basic modules |
| 22:04.27 | dataw0lf | so you're going to have to add those |
| 22:04.30 | hell-ro | right |
| 22:04.37 | dataw0lf | but I gotta fix this, I'll be back in twenty minutes, hopefully |
| 22:04.47 | hell-ro | dataw0lf: I'll have a look tonight, you going to be on then? |
| 22:11.40 | sjansen | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:11.54 | amcnabb | wow |
| 22:11.55 | sjansen | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:12.23 | goozbach | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!oneoneoneone1111 |
| 22:12.24 | hell-ro | sjansen: as in Oracle fame |
| 22:12.35 | hell-ro | wow, that's interesting |
| 22:12.45 | goozbach | hmmm emergency trip to Mt view? |
| 22:12.56 | findlay | sjansen: and they're buying novell too |
| 22:13.05 | goozbach | sell sell sell |
| 22:13.13 | findlay | tomorrow |
| 22:13.34 | findlay | they're buying them on amazon.com as "buy it together(R)" |
| 22:14.03 | findlay | with one-click(TM) shopping and FREE!! Super Saver Shipping(R) |
| 22:14.03 | obfuscated | I hear they're buying amazon too |
| 22:14.16 | hell-ro | and possibly newegg.... |
| 22:14.27 | findlay | and microSift |
| 22:14.34 | findlay | s/i/o/ |
| 22:14.40 | griffey | Yeah, but everyone also said that Apple was going to start putting Intel chips into Macs and *that* never... Oh. Wait. |
| 22:15.04 | findlay | ~rot13 morcoSift |
| 22:15.04 | ibot | zbepbFvsg |
| 22:15.46 | sjansen | Thank goodness for Ubuntu, otherwise I'd have to switch to SUSE if Oracle bought Red Hat. |
| 22:17.09 | findlay | s/i/o/g |
| 22:17.10 | hell-ro | sjansen: yeah, really, that'd suck, having to use a distro you know well.... |
| 22:17.52 | findlay | orcale will never buy redhat |
| 22:17.59 | findlay | ibot: orcale will never buy redhat |
| 22:18.25 | findlay | ibot: orcale is never going to buy redhat |
| 22:18.27 | ibot | findlay: okay |
| 22:18.44 | goozbach | I'd have to switch to caosity (permantly) |
| 22:18.59 | goozbach | that doesn't sound like too bad of a trade off |
| 22:19.11 | goozbach | comcast-- |
| 22:19.24 | goozbach | bah |
| 22:19.34 | goozbach | if DSL didn't suck so bad here I wouldn't even be contemplating it |
| 22:20.56 | hell-ro | goozbach: be grateful you have a choice, Qwest really isn't one here and I live in Springville, which the bastards didn't buy into Utopia....so I am stuck with ComCrap |
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| 22:21.59 | obfuscated | I guess utopia is expensive for these cities to adopt |
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| 22:22.08 | xbmodder_lappy | Even though this is illegal, how hard do you think it would be to convince the nieghbors to share the cable with me? |
| 22:22.11 | findlay | comcarp.com |
| 22:22.15 | obfuscated | my old bishop was mayor of West Jordan and he said he needed a way to pay for it |
| 22:22.40 | JoeyDay|wgu | obfuscated: I grew up in West Jordan. Who was your old bishop? |
| 22:22.51 | obfuscated | JoeyDay|wgu: Newton |
| 22:22.55 | robdor | hell-ro: Qwest is in springville |
| 22:23.13 | JoeyDay|wgu | obfuscated: Ah, didn't know him. |
| 22:23.20 | obfuscated | he's the current mayor |
| 22:23.26 | hell-ro | obfuscated: I would say that utopia isn't that expensive, just that Springville had Airswitch and so they want to use the dark fiber already there |
| 22:23.50 | hell-ro | robdor: I know Qwest is in springville, but the bandwidth is about 1/3 that of ComCrap |
| 22:23.52 | obfuscated | he seemed to need a way to pay for it - not sure what they charge |
| 22:24.00 | obfuscated | maybe he just didn't want to raise taxes |
| 22:24.25 | hell-ro | obfuscated: or give the citizens any choice |
| 22:24.28 | obfuscated | or maybe he didn't want to put the city in debt |
| 22:24.42 | obfuscated | hell-ro: the choice to pay more taxes? |
| 22:24.58 | hell-ro | obfuscated: no, the choice to have more than Qwest and Comcrap |
| 22:25.09 | hell-ro | taxes would obviously be involved |
| 22:25.27 | obfuscated | yeah - that doesn't sound like choice |
| 22:25.41 | obfuscated | for you and me yeah, but not for those that don't want it |
| 22:25.59 | hell-ro | true, true |
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| 22:26.33 | RyanE | yeah, but in that case, the needs of the few or one (ME) outweigh the needs of the many. I need my high-speed connection! |
| 22:26.34 | obfuscated | I would pay more taxes in an instant for it though, assuming it was cheaper than Comcast or Qwest |
| 22:27.11 | hell-ro | but really, springville has so many people who work in the tech industry, it should've passed in a landslide |
| 22:27.25 | hell-ro | I would pay more taxes too, because Utopia is cheaper |
| 22:27.26 | obfuscated | I'd love to see the numbers in tax increases vs the amount one normally pays |
| 22:27.38 | hell-ro | yeah, that'd be interesting for sure |
| 22:27.57 | obfuscated | I may not be for it if it actually costs more after taxes |
| 22:28.08 | RyanE | well, if Utopia is an unbridled success, maybe there'll be a 'Utopia for Losers' that can pick up all the stupid communities in a V2 round. |
| 22:28.20 | RyanE | at least we can hope. |
| 22:29.21 | hell-ro | yeah, except the bonds will probably be much higher and then we'll have to fight even harder to get it, plus I heard it would be something like 10-15 years before they come back because of all of the work that must be done to the initial areas.... |
| 22:30.42 | mheath | Wow |
| 22:30.57 | mheath | I just found a site that tries to charge you $25 to preinstall Open Office on their computers |
| 22:31.55 | hell-ro | obfuscated: how much snow is up there? |
| 22:32.22 | obfuscated | hell-ro: I can mostly see white out the window |
| 22:32.31 | obfuscated | we've had to have close to a foot or more today |
| 22:32.40 | obfuscated | Parleys will be fun |
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| 22:36.48 | maquis | obfuscated: parleys? |
| 22:38.35 | goozbach | Parley's canyon |
| 22:38.43 | goozbach | Park City -> SLC |
| 22:38.56 | hell-ro | obfuscated: that's scary, I wish you luck |
| 22:39.05 | hell-ro | either way you travel |
| 22:40.45 | obfuscated | I drove up - down in a truck is a bit more slippery though |
| 22:41.49 | emcnabb | it's still snowing a ton in Bountiful |
| 22:42.31 | mheath | Here too |
| 22:44.14 | hell-ro | I wouldn't know, I live without windows during the day, I am sure looking forward to my new job... |
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| 22:47.39 | mheath | atoponce: not sure if you noticed, but your domain's expired. |
| 22:47.40 | emcnabb | levi: how's it going? how's mom and the baby? |
| 22:48.11 | levi | emcnabb: They're doing good. I'm at home for the moment getting some assignments ready to take into school. |
| 22:48.35 | emcnabb | good to hear |
| 22:49.08 | levi | My mom is in town and hanging out with my wife and the baby at the hospital. |
| 22:49.30 | mheath | =) |
| 22:51.57 | hell-ro | levi: congrats...boy or girl? |
| 22:52.58 | levi | hell-ro: girl |
| 22:53.47 | levi | Time to get to class... bye! |
| 22:54.04 | hell-ro | levi: cool, I always wanted a girl. how many for you? |
| 22:54.51 | findlay | snow in Provo |
| 22:56.37 | maquis | winter has outstayed its welcome... |
| 22:56.42 | maquis | it's time for it to leave |
| 22:56.48 | hell-ro | maquis: agreed |
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| 22:59.00 | goozbach | bah |
| 22:59.05 | maquis | goozbach: agreed |
| 22:59.06 | goozbach | winter is my favorite season |
| 22:59.09 | maquis | oh |
| 22:59.10 | maquis | nm |
| 22:59.13 | goozbach | heh |
| 22:59.13 | maquis | winter is great |
| 22:59.14 | maquis | but |
| 22:59.22 | maquis | right now, i'm eady for spring |
| 22:59.29 | maquis | s/eady/ready/ |
| 22:59.38 | maquis | ~lart snow |
| 23:02.05 | Bradipo | Anyone know how long heraldextra.com has had major DNS problems? |
| 23:02.19 | goozbach | it's hot |
| 23:02.22 | findlay | maquis: in Utah the weather can change on a daily basis |
| 23:02.55 | maquis | findlay: i've noticed that |
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| 23:26.07 | elg | i hate being in the middle of the bell curve. when you do better than 1/3 and worse than 1/6 but exactly the same as the rest (almost half), what does that mean? |
| 23:26.55 | maquis | elg: at least you're not at the bottom of the bell-curve |
| 23:27.13 | elg | by one question I wasn't. :) |
| 23:27.29 | elg | that's what it means: we need more questions to tell. just a quiz though |
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| 23:53.31 | elg | harleypig: your story warms my heart |
| 23:54.26 | findlay | like the bell curve is useful for anything than teaching probabilities |
| 23:54.35 | findlay | and reverencing the name of Gauss (: |
| 23:54.49 | elg | of course it's useful, otherwise there would be no point in teaching it |
| 23:55.28 | elg | but you do need a proper sample size |
| 23:55.58 | elg | i'm mostly flabbergasted that I got 4/10 when I thought I had at least an 8. I still don't get what I got wrong |