| 00:01.07 | levi | Time to head home. |
| 00:01.08 | elg | very interesting. he's got a strange attitude about it |
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| 00:47.06 | vontrapper | can mythtv run on a mac? |
| 00:57.08 | findlay | ok, now I can't access europe |
| 00:57.08 | findlay | this is crazy |
| 00:57.17 | findlay | no news.bbc.co.uk, no cern.ch |
| 00:57.37 | findlay | ~lart oct |
| 00:57.47 | findlay | ~lart offcampustelecom |
| 00:57.52 | findlay | ~lart offcampustelecommunications |
| 00:57.59 | findlay | ~lart veracity |
| 00:58.49 | findlay | hah, nameserver is down this time |
| 00:58.52 | findlay | nothing serious |
| 01:01.03 | tensai | maquis: you can also get a $25 check and a $20 credit at the epson store |
| 01:07.13 | tensai | findlay: novell's runs open name servers, you could use those. 137.65.1.1 |
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| 01:18.33 | tensai | elg: great, now you've caused him to multiply |
| 01:20.13 | tensai | -roulette |
| 01:20.13 | brac | tensai: chamber 1 of 6 => *BANG* |
| 01:24.06 | SpecialK | -roulette |
| 01:24.06 | brac | SpecialK: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
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| 01:26.31 | brac | tensai: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
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| 01:57.26 | griffey | Hi folks. |
| 01:57.42 | dna3e8 | hi |
| 01:57.45 | RyanE_ | hey |
| 01:58.42 | dna3e8 | I think I may be installing some distroes... I a have a test computer that will have 3-4 oses on it, just for fun |
| 01:59.25 | findlay | hi |
| 01:59.50 | findlay | maquis: say hi |
| 02:00.06 | findlay | ~say hi |
| 02:00.12 | ibot | hi |
| 02:00.12 | dna3e8 | I have yet to get a fedora install to work |
| 02:00.35 | RyanE | fc4 worked 'out of the box' on my laptop. |
| 02:00.43 | griffey | I like Fedora--and after last week, I actually almost understand what I'm doing now. ;) |
| 02:02.07 | tensai | ~spell abyssmal |
| 02:02.18 | tensai | ~dict abysmal |
| 02:02.52 | dna3e8 | I hate FTp download sites... They never work right..:( |
| 02:05.21 | dna3e8 | SO it is going to be a goose chase just to get the CDs |
| 02:07.23 | dna3e8 | Does fedora support net install, start with one cd then that then the installer down loads that rest as needed? |
| 02:08.41 | griffey | I don't know, personally (but I'm REALLY new here). |
| 02:08.56 | griffey | Where are you trying to download ISOs from? |
| 02:10.23 | dna3e8 | It seemed to be fedora's main site... but they had some FTP disk thing the mounted... I found a better doanload page in the intall instructins |
| 02:10.31 | sjansen | dna3e8: Yes, you can do a net install. |
| 02:10.33 | dna3e8 | (got to intall not down load) |
| 02:10.45 | dna3e8 | just use disk 1 |
| 02:10.51 | sjansen | But if you can't find a good server for the ISOs, you probably can't find a good server to do a net install. |
| 02:10.55 | tensai | generally speaking you'll use a lot less bandwidth doing a net install |
| 02:11.21 | sjansen | I'd try xmission, their mirror generally seems pretty reliable. |
| 02:11.35 | dna3e8 | band width is not much of an issue, I don't lioke burnning Cds |
| 02:11.40 | tensai | or playboy, if you want to buck the system |
| 02:11.45 | dna3e8 | xmission.com? |
| 02:12.04 | dna3e8 | BYU blocks playboy :( |
| 02:12.23 | dna3e8 | (in on campus housing) |
| 02:12.29 | tensai | yeah. I wonder how much traffic the playboy mirror really gets compared to others |
| 02:12.40 | tensai | mirror.xmission.com, btw |
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| 02:22.41 | dna3e8 | how do i change my home folder |
| 02:23.37 | dna3e8 | I want my oses to use the same Home folder |
| 02:24.21 | sjansen | If you want to do it post install, you need to read a howto that discusses mounting and /etc/fstab. |
| 02:25.11 | dna3e8 | I have knoppix intalled now and need to switch the home folder |
| 02:25.23 | sjansen | Unless, of course, you want to share between Linux and Windows in which case you also need to read about /etc/passwd and/or usermod. |
| 02:25.51 | dna3e8 | windos can do it own thing... just linux distros |
| 02:26.53 | sjansen | Basically, you should have created /home as it's own filesystem. If you didn't put /home on it's own filesystem, life is going to be harder. Consider it a learning experience. |
| 02:27.25 | sjansen | Then you're going to modify the /etc/fstab of each install so that they all mount /home. |
| 02:27.42 | dna3e8 | I have a partitoin that will be home |
| 02:27.52 | sjansen | Then you're probably going to discover that your uid is different for each install, so you're going to get upset and have to learn about usermod. |
| 02:28.21 | sjansen | If you haven't installed yet, it easiest to just specify /home as it's own filesystem and let the install configure your /etc/fstab. |
| 02:29.02 | sjansen | Sadly, I'm too lazy to be more specific than that. Figuring things out from my clues will be good for you. Puts hair on the chest. |
| 02:34.13 | tensai | ~lart sjansen |
| 02:35.36 | findlay | ~tral |
| 02:37.32 | tensai | so, you know the lart that says "gets a hotmal account and spams $who"? I have cvs commit access and I'm debating fixing the typo. |
| 02:37.45 | tensai | on the one hand, it's spelled wrong. but OTOH it's funny. what do you think? |
| 02:38.42 | sjansen | leave it |
| 02:39.03 | sjansen | ~lart tensai |
| 02:46.41 | herlo | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 02:46.52 | ibot | dataw0lf <n=dataw0lf@70.103.239.58> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 11h 30m 7s ago, saying: 'almost being the keyword there'. |
| 02:48.49 | nick125 | (when it comes to illegal stuff that is..) |
| 02:51.47 | dna3e8 | what distro (umbuntu or fedora) needs a bigger root directory? |
| 02:52.00 | nick125 | dna3e8: huh? |
| 02:52.04 | nick125 | as in /root? |
| 02:52.18 | sjansen | depends on how much software you install |
| 02:52.46 | dna3e8 | I am a beginner so base system.. |
| 02:52.56 | dna3e8 | yes as in /root |
| 02:53.13 | dna3e8 | (there i tell the installer to insall) |
| 02:53.28 | sjansen | Do you mean / or /root? |
| 02:53.28 | dna3e8 | I have a 3.3 GB and 4.0 GB |
| 02:53.49 | sjansen | my gut reaction is that ubuntu is going to be smaller |
| 02:54.00 | dna3e8 | ok thanks |
| 02:54.16 | nick125 | 4GB is pushing it.. |
| 02:55.25 | dna3e8 | I am just playing with distros to learn what I like... so it will change. |
| 02:55.49 | dna3e8 | what file system should I format the target partition of an Umbutu install? |
| 02:55.59 | roving_prole | I would guess ubuntu would be smaller too, and that's what I recommend- my favorite |
| 02:56.09 | dna3e8 | EXt3? |
| 02:56.51 | roving_prole | ext3 is probably sufficient for day-to-day use |
| 02:57.01 | nick125 | I use ext3 with no probs.. |
| 02:57.10 | nick125 | actually, all my boxes use ext3 |
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| 02:59.20 | dna3e8 | do you know what file system MAx OS X uses? |
| 02:59.31 | roving_prole | HFS+ |
| 02:59.36 | nick125 | yeah, hfs plus |
| 03:02.21 | sjansen | ~burp |
| 03:02.23 | ibot | ACTION burps loudly |
| 03:03.20 | dna3e8 | I am getting the fedora ISO from different servers.. one is yarrow-SRPMS-disc 2 how am I suposed to know if it is FC 5? like the rest |
| 03:03.36 | nick125 | yarrow? |
| 03:03.55 | dna3e8 | it is just the name on the ISO |
| 03:04.04 | nick125 | I think thats fedora core 2 |
| 03:04.12 | dna3e8 | from a mirror on the fedora site |
| 03:04.16 | nick125 | no wait.. |
| 03:04.19 | nick125 | its fc1 |
| 03:04.29 | nick125 | i think.. |
| 03:04.38 | nick125 | Fedora Core 1 (Yarrow) |
| 03:04.39 | nick125 | yeah |
| 03:04.52 | dna3e8 | So i don't want to use it... |
| 03:05.09 | nick125 | no |
| 03:05.26 | nick125 | and you dont want the SRPMS discs either |
| 03:06.33 | nick125 | who comes up with the damn FC codenames |
| 03:07.32 | nick125 | yarrow, tettnang, heidelburg, bordeaux, etc |
| 03:16.25 | dna3e8 | GRRR the unbutu CD is scrached |
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| 04:10.42 | nick125 | why do people steal other places terms of services? |
| 04:14.03 | nick125 | they run search-and-replace in microsoft word and paste it up on their site.. |
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| 05:38.17 | mheath | nick125, interesting question......What if I put a clause in the TOS that says "Don't steal our TOS"? =P |
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| 05:39.12 | nick125 | mheath: haha..I should do that to my ToS (which I'm writing from scratch) |
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| 05:41.43 | mheath | ~lart McDonalds |
| 05:42.04 | mheath | I have a goal in life, now =P |
| 05:42.12 | mheath | I will single handedly conquer a soverign nation. |
| 05:42.22 | mheath | Yes, I will take over and conquer Sealand! ;-P |
| 05:51.31 | QBFreak | how do I change mplayer's language for DVDs? |
| 05:51.48 | QBFreak | I think I bumped something :) |
| 05:52.03 | mheath | Dunno |
| 05:52.13 | mheath | Hmm, seriously, though...I wouldn't mind investing some money in HavenCo and such |
| 05:52.25 | mheath | And improving Sealand. |
| 05:53.57 | QBFreak | the # key |
| 05:56.14 | QBFreak | wonderful |
| 05:56.31 | QBFreak | it always starts this episode in the wrong language and it hangs when I try to rewind |
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| 05:58.37 | QBFreak | makes some sense though, I was wondering what the Russians were doing in this plot |
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| 06:18.03 | amcnabb_ | nick125, What's up with ivtv? |
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| 07:13.26 | SpecialK | -roulette |
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| 07:32.17 | dna3e8 | How do you check the SHA1 hash of a download |
| 07:33.26 | nick125_ | sha1sum i think..lemme check |
| 07:33.35 | nick125_ | yeah |
| 07:33.38 | nick125_ | sha1sum |
| 07:36.12 | dna3e8 | I get a camand not found |
| 07:36.32 | nick125_ | what distro? |
| 07:36.50 | dna3e8 | I am testing the CDs on a mac |
| 07:37.06 | dna3e8 | (unix FreeBSD |
| 07:37.09 | nick125_ | oh.. |
| 07:37.23 | nick125_ | dunno how you would install sha1sum on that :/ |
| 07:37.38 | nick125_ | how big is the download? |
| 07:37.47 | nick125_ | is python installed? |
| 07:37.50 | dna3e8 | cd iso, 400Mb |
| 07:37.56 | dna3e8 | dono |
| 07:38.03 | nick125_ | type python into a terminal |
| 07:38.07 | dna3e8 | yes |
| 07:38.20 | nick125_ | okay..heres an idea: |
| 07:38.32 | nick125_ | type this in to that terminal: |
| 07:38.40 | nick125_ | import sha |
| 07:39.06 | dna3e8 | k |
| 07:39.14 | nick125_ | sha.new(open("<filehere>", "r").read()).hexdigest() |
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| 07:43.04 | dna3e8 | it is thinking |
| 07:43.27 | nick125_ | it will take it a while.. |
| 07:43.43 | nick125_ | and it will probably use a few hundred MB of ram (since you just put that file into ram..) |
| 07:44.20 | dna3e8 | .... I only have 512 MB of ram... |
| 07:44.39 | nick125_ | just give it a few minutes.. |
| 07:48.24 | dna3e8 | it is a SHA1 hash... |
| 07:49.03 | nick125_ | what distro are you downloading (just wondering) |
| 07:49.23 | dna3e8 | fedora |
| 07:49.40 | dna3e8 | disk 1 is ok |
| 07:49.57 | dna3e8 | I anted to do a net install... but it never asked |
| 07:50.02 | nick125_ | ah fun |
| 07:54.48 | dna3e8 | I 'hashed' cd one that same way,a nd got a 'bad' hash. But CD 1 is definetly Good |
| 07:55.09 | dna3e8 | I think I need the sha1 or womthing |
| 07:55.16 | dna3e8 | *something |
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| 14:16.49 | tensai | ~lart elg |
| 14:17.23 | tensai | ~lart brac |
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| 14:51.26 | emcnabb | I feel a pick on elg day coming up |
| 14:51.28 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 14:51.37 | emcnabb | -lart elg |
| 14:51.53 | elg | so does freenx |
| 14:52.01 | elg | stopped working out of the blue |
| 14:52.31 | findlay | there's so much love on #utah |
| 14:52.38 | findlay | that's why I like it here |
| 14:55.41 | elg | well... I did upgrade Xorg to 7, I wonder if that's the problem |
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| 15:02.46 | elg | that is. blast. looks like it'll be awhile |
| 15:04.23 | tensai | silly elg |
| 15:12.29 | tensai | s/l/foo/g |
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| 15:23.55 | mheath | good morning |
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| 16:27.12 | mheath | *sigh* |
| 16:29.02 | mheath | just because of lack of communication between me and my couselor |
| 16:29.13 | mheath | I need a bunch of credit that, had I known about it, I could easily have done by now |
| 16:29.37 | mheath | Unfortunately, I didn't know about it until two days ago. Making it nearly impossible to do now. |
| 16:30.54 | mheath | time for work, be back later |
| 17:16.26 | findlay | where do I find out what error 597 means? |
| 17:16.30 | findlay | ~597 |
| 17:20.19 | findlay | ~rfc2616 |
| 17:21.03 | findlay | ibot: http is at http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt?number=2616 |
| 17:21.05 | ibot | ...but http is already something else... |
| 17:21.11 | findlay | ibot: http is also at http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt?number=2616 |
| 17:21.12 | ibot | okay, findlay |
| 17:21.16 | findlay | ~http |
| 17:21.17 | ibot | methinks http is (Hyper Text Transfer Protocol) The way the data in an HTML document is transferred. What it really is is what tells the program looking at the data what to use it as. So, a document coming in HTTP is read as an HTML document. at http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt?number=2616 |
| 17:39.30 | maquis | testing? |
| 17:39.32 | maquis | ok |
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| 17:42.54 | findlay | ~testing |
| 17:42.55 | ibot | from memory, testing is done - but yes, further excursions will take place elsewhere |
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| 18:00.58 | tensai | ~lart maquis |
| 18:01.05 | maquis | -lart tensai |
| 18:01.16 | tensai | ha, ha |
| 18:01.29 | maquis | ~lart tensai |
| 18:02.00 | findlay | see? there's so much love on #utah it's intoxicating |
| 18:02.10 | findlay | ~lart tensai |
| 18:02.31 | findlay | ibot: you have corrupted me |
| 18:19.50 | findlay | ~hug g-cpan |
| 18:19.52 | ibot | ACTION hugs g-cpan |
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| 18:36.23 | elg | ~slap marzipan |
| 18:36.25 | ibot | ACTION slaps marzipan, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
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| 19:50.36 | elg | hmm. summer of code application time coming up. maybe I'll apply |
| 20:00.49 | tensai | elg: to which project? |
| 20:01.09 | elg | one that looks cool |
| 20:01.31 | elg | i'm going to try to prod some audio folks, maybe ardour, into applying to be a mentor |
| 20:01.46 | elg | and if asterisk shows up I'll apply for that probably |
| 20:01.47 | elg | or ser |
| 20:01.55 | tensai | what would you add to ardour? |
| 20:02.28 | elg | whatever they need that's cool |
| 20:06.10 | tensai | I thought you had to propose a job. or was it that the mentor suggests them and you pick. |
| 20:10.26 | elg | mentor orgs put up any ideas they may have, students submit proposals |
| 20:10.53 | elg | out-of-band dialog can of course take course. I would have to come up with a project idea to apply, yes |
| 20:11.02 | elg | may 8 I think is the deadline for students. may 1 for the organizations to get signed up |
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| 20:19.42 | tensai | you should apply to be goozbach's lackey |
| 20:20.13 | goozbach | position is already taken |
| 20:20.38 | tensai | surely you have use for more than one minion |
| 20:20.51 | goozbach | hmm |
| 20:20.56 | goozbach | more than one... |
| 20:21.19 | goozbach | sjansen does such a good job though |
| 20:21.22 | tensai | one could fetch you lemonade while the other cools you with palm fronds |
| 20:24.32 | elg | i call lemonaded |
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| 20:30.17 | goozbach | *sigh* |
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| 20:30.42 | goozbach | I missed one fun paintball game |
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| 20:46.11 | dna3e83 | fedora 5 , with anakanda, is way easier to install.... easyer the suse! |
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| 23:24.32 | findlay | finally after all this time, Mason works |
| 23:25.00 | findlay | although I had to do a few things that felt like hacks and I was loath to do |
| 23:28.45 | findlay | the question is, can I contrive to get cpanel's apache to let me use mason |