| 00:00.29 | tensai | maquis: it was really just for the fun of making a trap. she knew it was there, watched us set it up. |
| 00:01.01 | lukfugl | well, off home for me |
| 00:01.11 | lukfugl | g'nite |
| 00:01.29 | tensai | maquis: I lowered it from head to hip level without her knowing, so she tried to duck under it but ended up getting it right in the noggin |
| 00:01.52 | maquis | tensai: ouch |
| 00:02.26 | maquis | tensai: yeah... i get the impression that some of the cs profs at byu would think something like this would be interesting... but i'm guessing it would get axed someplace in the administration |
| 00:04.22 | tensai | maquis: not sure exactly. I proposed the idea but he was new and wasn't permanent, so he wasn't sure he could sell it. |
| 00:04.32 | maquis | ah |
| 00:04.35 | maquis | yeah |
| 00:04.45 | tensai | I recall he was worried about being shot down for encouraging deviant behavior and he had no sway |
| 00:06.32 | tensai | lucky for me I had built a good repoir with him over the semester. I went to the final at the wrong time, 2pm instead of 11am. He laughed and let me take it the next day. |
| 00:06.50 | tensai | s/repoir/repoire/ |
| 00:07.01 | elg | rapport |
| 00:07.12 | elg | ~dict rapport |
| 00:07.34 | tensai | ah. google suggested repoire. apparently that's a bug. |
| 00:07.41 | elg | ~dict repoire |
| 00:08.20 | findlay | ~dict report |
| 00:15.25 | levi | tensai: From what I understand, google doesn't use a dictionary for its suggestions, just search results. So if you search for something close to a word that a lot of people misspell... |
| 00:16.27 | maquis | :) |
| 00:18.19 | findlay | (: |
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| 02:15.54 | tensai | what's fun to do in Logan? |
| 02:24.30 | emcnabb | cow tipping |
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| 02:38.03 | ctr_ | i've actually tipped a cow before |
| 02:38.10 | ctr_ | using a four wheeler |
| 02:44.44 | tensai | hm, ok. what if I'm looking for legal, family fun? |
| 02:45.36 | ScytheBlade1 | cow tipping! |
| 02:45.53 | ctr_ | cow tipping was legal |
| 02:45.58 | ctr_ | it was family head |
| 02:46.04 | ctr_ | so no illegal tipping from tyler |
| 02:46.09 | ctr_ | true story |
| 02:46.59 | emcnabb | family fun... how about a FSLC meeting? |
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| 03:08.13 | dilvie | isn't cow tipping dangerous -- for the cows, I mean? |
| 03:08.14 | hans | OMG!!! Ponies!!! |
| 03:08.24 | hans | dilvie: I would think |
| 03:08.45 | hans | dilvie: hey, do you want to help me brainstorm? I've got to come up with a cool embedded DSP project |
| 03:09.15 | hans | yeah, that. :-) It's on my list, really. |
| 03:09.58 | hans | I hope to be able to squeeze it in, but if I don't I promise it'll be first on my list of after-finals things to do come second week of may. |
| 03:10.20 | dilvie | what's your embedded DSP project about? |
| 03:10.33 | dilvie | feed me some more details. =) |
| 03:10.59 | hans | we're programming these TI DSP evaluation boards. Audio in, audio out. possibility of simple text to the screen |
| 03:11.21 | hans | it'll be in C. It just needs to be cool, sufficiently difficult, and DSP of course |
| 03:12.20 | TimRiker | what's with the ponies? I just saw that in another channel. |
| 03:12.28 | ScytheBlade1 | /. |
| 03:12.30 | dilvie | How about FFT? You could turn the TI into a spectragraph? =) |
| 03:12.33 | TimRiker | ah |
| 03:12.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Take a look |
| 03:12.38 | TimRiker | ~slashdot |
| 03:12.38 | ScytheBlade1 | It's kinda scary |
| 03:12.40 | hans | I want something with a high wow factor, and I'd like to stretch myself a little in the DSP area |
| 03:12.45 | ScytheBlade1 | No no, actually LOOK at slashdot |
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| 03:13.30 | dilvie | WTF!? |
| 03:13.30 | dilvie | hahaha |
| 03:13.43 | dilvie | hans: so, a spectragraph isn't wow enough? |
| 03:13.45 | dilvie | =) |
| 03:14.18 | hans | hmm, it might be good enough but I'm looking for something more wowy |
| 03:14.23 | dilvie | hans: do you have technical specs for these TI boards? |
| 03:14.52 | hans | they're overkill for anything I could hope to do in a couple of weeks. gigaherz processor, plenty of ram |
| 03:14.59 | ScytheBlade1 | TimRiker, make sense now? :) |
| 03:15.16 | dilvie | hahah |
| 03:15.19 | dilvie | ghz processor? |
| 03:15.23 | hans | 1ghz yeah |
| 03:15.29 | hans | fixed point |
| 03:15.40 | maquis | erm... wow |
| 03:15.41 | hans | usb, serial |
| 03:15.42 | dilvie | do they have more than one audio channel input? |
| 03:15.48 | hans | stereo, I thihkn |
| 03:15.58 | TimRiker | ScytheBlade1: perfect. ;-) though with my login, I don't see much pink. logging out makes it overpowering. |
| 03:16.01 | dilvie | hans: how about a side-chain compressor? |
| 03:16.14 | hans | it's this |
| 03:16.15 | hans | http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/tmdsdsk6416.html |
| 03:16.16 | brac | [Tool Folder : TMDSDSK6416 - TMS320C6416 DSP Starter Kit (DSK)] |
| 03:16.39 | ScytheBlade1 | TimRiker, yeah, pretty much, it's kinda creepy ;) |
| 03:16.44 | ScytheBlade1 | OH |
| 03:16.52 | ScytheBlade1 | You own ibot, don't you? |
| 03:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I tried a while ago, it didn't want to |
| 03:17.08 | TimRiker | and apt, and jbot, and purl. |
| 03:17.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Think you could have it idle in my channel? ;) |
| 03:17.22 | TimRiker | sure. what channel? |
| 03:17.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ##pxe |
| 03:17.35 | TimRiker | as in pxe boot? |
| 03:17.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 03:18.13 | dilvie | hans: side-chain compressor, yes/no? |
| 03:18.27 | hans | I'm still trying to figure out what a side-chain compressor is> :) |
| 03:19.02 | TimRiker | ScytheBlade1: jbot ok? they are the same bot and jbot has the lowest channel count at the moment. (16) |
| 03:19.03 | dilvie | hans: it's a compressor that compresses audio based on levels from an alternate signal |
| 03:19.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure, that'd be fine |
| 03:19.25 | dilvie | hans: in this case, it might compress the right channel based on levels coming from the left channel |
| 03:19.54 | dilvie | hans: it can be used, for example, to lower the volume of a music signal when people are talking on the other channel |
| 03:20.16 | hans | interesting. I don't know if it has one, but that might be an interesting project |
| 03:20.26 | hans | i'll stick it in the pool |
| 03:21.22 | hans | other thoughts I've had so far include some kind of wavelet resynthesis to do a neat effect, a vocoder (robot voice), a moog-like synth, |
| 03:22.10 | hans | beat detection |
| 03:22.26 | hans | realtime accompaniment |
| 03:22.48 | hans | didgeridoo |
| 03:23.02 | ScytheBlade1 | TimRiker, thank you :) |
| 03:23.52 | dilvie | ooh |
| 03:23.53 | dilvie | 512K words of Flash and 16 MB SDRAM |
| 03:24.06 | dilvie | you could do something with looping or sample and hold |
| 03:25.08 | dilvie | wavelet resynthesis is a bigger project than you think, perhaps. Making it sound good will require a lot of trial and error -- particularly if you lack experience with that type of synthesis. |
| 03:25.19 | dilvie | easy to make funny sonuds |
| 03:25.21 | dilvie | sounds |
| 03:25.29 | dilvie | difficult to make a quality instrument |
| 03:26.27 | dilvie | a moog-like synth would be fairly simple |
| 03:26.40 | dilvie | so long as you keep it simple |
| 03:27.03 | dilvie | but I'm betting six other people will be thinking of similar projects |
| 03:29.08 | dilvie | have you thought of doing a convolver? |
| 03:29.10 | hans | well, synthesis is probably not on most people's list. these are EEs most of which have no musical background, and any sort of synthesis thing I'd probably have to write some simple MIDI-like control code and a gateway to send midi over the serial port. probably too much work, actually |
| 03:29.21 | dilvie | also not particularly inventive, but very handy. |
| 03:29.30 | hans | I think the ideal project will take audio in and put audio out |
| 03:29.34 | hans | convolve what? |
| 03:30.08 | dilvie | well, a convolver would probably not be an ideal application. |
| 03:30.24 | hans | well I take that back, a lot of people might consider synthesis as an extension of the project we already did, and hardcode the song in |
| 03:30.28 | dilvie | I think a side-chain compressor would fit your project scope really well |
| 03:30.46 | hans | prof says FM synthesis is fairly common |
| 03:31.03 | dilvie | do you have a lot of experience with FM? |
| 03:31.22 | dilvie | I've been using it for well over a decade, and I'm still not particularly good at programming FM sounds. |
| 03:31.26 | hans | nah, just some |
| 03:31.46 | hans | yeah, it's not exactly intuitive to get them |
| 03:32.10 | dilvie | I usually don't get what I'm looking for. |
| 03:32.19 | dilvie | I have a lot of happy accidents. |
| 03:32.21 | dilvie | =) |
| 03:32.28 | dilvie | "ooh, that sounds nice!" |
| 03:32.41 | dilvie | "nothing like a tuba, but really cool, anyway!" |
| 03:32.44 | dilvie | ehehe |
| 03:32.54 | hans | :) |
| 03:33.16 | dilvie | FM7 is my favorite VST plugin. |
| 03:33.26 | dilvie | I have a real DX7 on my desk, right in front of me. |
| 03:33.47 | hans | one thing I thought would be really neat is something where I could take my midi keyboard with lots of knobs and be able to tweak sounds with the controllers |
| 03:33.56 | hans | but there's the midi bit again |
| 03:34.12 | hans | maybe I'll see if there's existing code for midi on that borad |
| 03:34.15 | dilvie | it doesn't sound like this would be a good project to involve MIDI in. |
| 03:34.24 | dilvie | yeah, good idea. |
| 03:34.29 | dilvie | if there isn't, I wouldn't bother. |
| 03:34.38 | dilvie | I'd do an audio effect, instead. |
| 03:35.16 | dilvie | You could port the haas plugin... ;) |
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| 03:36.47 | dilvie | I'm just teasing you. It's actually pretty easy to simulate in the software I'm using now, so I don't need it URGENTLY. It would just be nice to be able to automate it, so I can shift things around in the stereo spectrum and add some motion to the music. |
| 03:37.03 | dilvie | That's currently impossible to do convincingly without a good haas plugin. |
| 03:37.49 | dilvie | well, not impossible |
| 03:37.55 | dilvie | but much more difficult than it needs to be. |
| 03:38.12 | hans | i thought about doing haas |
| 03:38.38 | hans | but I'm not sure it's going to demo real well on the little speakers that are so close together |
| 03:38.56 | hans | otoh I could probably tweak the speaker setup for the demo |
| 03:39.06 | hans | and wear headphones for development |
| 03:39.34 | dilvie | I could help you demo the haas plugin if you want to do it seriously. |
| 03:39.50 | dilvie | I can work up some programs that would create some pretty dramatic effects. |
| 03:40.03 | dilvie | you remember my detune example when I was explaining the concept? |
| 03:41.00 | hans | no |
| 03:42.05 | dilvie | oh, well, a few cents of r/l detune creates a pretty dramatic effect |
| 03:46.54 | hans | neat |
| 03:47.04 | hans | well if it can be impressive I'd just as soon do that |
| 03:47.15 | hans | then I can use the same code, more or less, for the plugin |
| 03:48.17 | dilvie | haha |
| 03:48.25 | dilvie | I don't know if I'd say it would be "impressive" |
| 03:48.35 | dilvie | I think the side-chain compressor would probably demo bette. |
| 03:48.38 | dilvie | better, rather. |
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| 03:49.26 | dilvie | Both would make very handy workhorse additions to a real recording studio, though. |
| 03:49.31 | findlay | anybody been to slashdot lately? |
| 03:49.37 | dilvie | findlay: yes. |
| 03:49.38 | dilvie | hahaha |
| 03:49.42 | findlay | ~slashdot |
| 03:50.23 | ScytheBlade1 | It's only going to get worse |
| 03:50.58 | findlay | maybe this is good motivation for me to cold turkey my /. addiction |
| 03:51.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:51.12 | ScytheBlade1 | If last year didn't do it |
| 03:51.15 | ScytheBlade1 | This year won't either |
| 03:51.33 | ScytheBlade1 | moment |
| 03:52.02 | ScytheBlade1 | http://slashdot.org/index.pl?issue=20050401 |
| 03:52.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Note the page length |
| 03:54.59 | ScytheBlade1 | It's highly probable that http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/01/1715218 has the least amount of typos in a /. posting, ever |
| 03:55.05 | ScytheBlade1 | But that's a disputed idea |
| 04:05.37 | hans | dilvie: thanks for the ideas |
| 04:05.44 | hans | I'll let you know what I decide |
| 04:10.19 | dilvie | hans: cool. =) |
| 04:27.39 | ctr_ | hi! |
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| 04:51.55 | tensai | I made hushpuppies tonight. accidentally added twice as much liquid so I had to double the recipe real quick. anybody want a hushpuppy? |
| 04:53.11 | tensai | they're not that bad, but I can't eat 30 of them. and that's just the leftovers |
| 04:53.38 | maquis | feel free to send them this way... |
| 04:55.48 | tensai | I can only throw like a hundred feet. you'll have to make up the difference. |
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| 05:05.44 | maquis | :( |
| 05:05.56 | maquis | tensai: can't you find some way to email them? |
| 05:06.55 | ctr_ | i used to overnight peanut butter to a friend in canada |
| 05:06.57 | ctr_ | you could do it that way |
| 05:07.02 | ctr_ | it's fast and easy |
| 05:14.10 | ctr_ | jeeze dude... i almost died just now choking on popcorn; that scene in napolean dynamite where the uncle picks up kips steak and throws it at napolean |
| 05:14.28 | ctr_ | totally caught me off guard |
| 05:50.42 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.hypexr.org/gfx/mail_system_flow.png <-- it's (real) things like that, which prevent me from even trying to setup linux e-mail stuff :( |
| 05:51.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Do I really want to have to install ten seperate programs from ten different groups just so I can send and recieve e-mail? |
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| 06:14.07 | QBFreak | yarr |
| 06:14.46 | QBFreak | I just want to forward my local mail out to a remote address, but I can't even get that to work |
| 06:15.22 | QBFreak | exim fusses about not being able to or something |
| 06:15.45 | tensai | what version and what's the error? |
| 06:17.03 | QBFreak | exim4 |
| 06:17.05 | QBFreak | leme find it |
| 06:17.21 | QBFreak | Mailing to remote domains not supported |
| 06:19.42 | tensai | what distro? did you compile from source, or from a package? |
| 06:20.15 | QBFreak | Debian, I assume package, it was installed when I setup the OS |
| 06:22.59 | tensai | ah. try dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 06:23.44 | tensai | that'll run a config script. make sure you enable remote delivery. |
| 06:26.05 | QBFreak | ah cool, I'll try that, thanks |
| 06:27.09 | tensai | I personally can't stand the way debian set up exim4. it's retarded. if you do much with your mail server I'd recommend generating your own exim4.conf. For light use, the debian way will work. |
| 06:27.36 | QBFreak | yeah, I got lost in it trying to do something that a page I stumbled across suggested |
| 06:28.30 | QBFreak | too many conf files :) |
| 06:32.04 | mheath | "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. |
| 06:32.15 | ScytheBlade1 | This may be a loaded question |
| 06:32.15 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'm looking for a good POP3/SMTP/IMAP + SSL mail server |
| 06:32.15 | ScytheBlade1 | that runs on linux, and is relatively easy to setup ;) |
| 06:32.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Suggestions, anyone? |
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| 06:37.15 | QBFreak | so that's what that button does... |
| 06:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Push it again! |
| 06:37.15 | QBFreak | "out of service" |
| 06:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Aww |
| 06:39.54 | tensai | ScytheBlade1: for sheer performance I like Surgemail, which isn't Free but is excellent. for SMTP I dig Exim which is uber-configurable. I use Courier for POP3/IMAP and it works. Really that part doesn't have to be that fancy. |
| 06:40.30 | ScytheBlade1 | So there's four different things (and knowing Courier, more like eight) to configure :) |
| 06:40.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Joy :) |
| 06:41.02 | tensai | there's not a whole lot of configuration for Courier. The protocol just doesn't leave much room for it. |
| 06:41.09 | tensai | but yes, you're right |
| 06:41.21 | ScytheBlade1 | No, but I have yet to have a successful build of courier-imap |
| 06:41.39 | ScytheBlade1 | And I have yet to have any success in any form with any existing linux mail server :) |
| 06:41.45 | tensai | apt-get install :) |
| 06:41.51 | ScytheBlade1 | And I've tried them all, two or three times :) |
| 06:41.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Cheater |
| 06:41.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 06:42.03 | ScytheBlade1 | No, building the software aside |
| 06:42.06 | tensai | I've heard good things about Novell's mail server, used to be called NetMail. Hula I think. |
| 06:42.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I've just... never, ever had any luck at all |
| 06:42.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Hula is an I/O whore, all offense intended |
| 06:42.24 | nick125 | http://atarack.com/ponies/howto.html < how does it look? :) |
| 06:42.25 | brac | [How-to make your very own OMG PONIES!! sign.] |
| 06:42.32 | tensai | I used it way back when I worked there and wasn't that impressed. far cry better than Groupwise though. |
| 06:42.54 | tensai | "I/O whore"? how so? |
| 06:43.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a linode (linode.com) |
| 06:43.10 | tensai | it sells its I/O for money? |
| 06:43.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Read a thread about a guy who installed it on his linode |
| 06:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | They are a virtual server company |
| 06:43.34 | tensai | right, I had a linode once |
| 06:43.38 | ScytheBlade1 | limit disk I/O with I/O tokens: you have 40k of them, get 512 back every second |
| 06:43.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, hula was chewing through 600/sec |
| 06:43.58 | tensai | I see |
| 06:45.03 | tensai | I love mail servers. I don't know why. They're just so cute and cuddly. |
| 06:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Well then write me a good HOWTO in plain english! ;) |
| 06:45.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I've looked; I've tried |
| 06:45.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I've failed every time |
| 06:46.05 | mheath | ~lart women |
| 06:46.19 | tensai | what specifically are you looking for? maybe I'll take you up. |
| 06:46.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Specifically? End result setup will be two mail servers (two MX records), on two seperate IPs |
| 06:47.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Each must provide POP3/SMTP/IMAP, must have the ability to share accounts, and none of this "local mail" crap ;) |
| 06:47.25 | ScytheBlade1 | oh, and SSL is required also |
| 06:48.58 | ScytheBlade1 | by "share accounts", I mean pretty much everything... mail data, user accounts, passwords, etc |
| 06:49.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Or, if I'm looking for the completely wrong things, I'd like to be pointed in another direction than the brick wall around the corner for me ;) |
| 06:54.36 | ScytheBlade1 | In all honesty, with the current state of linux e-mail servers, and all 20 required components |
| 06:55.01 | ScytheBlade1 | It really, really makes me just want to install Exchange and let that do it's magic |
| 06:55.50 | mheath | I wish there was a Linux server distribution..... |
| 06:55.57 | mheath | every common thing included |
| 06:56.03 | mheath | configuration wizards, etc. |
| 06:56.10 | QBFreak | make one! |
| 06:56.20 | mheath | That would make it easy to roll out a LAMP + E-mail + FTP + ? server |
| 06:56.46 | ScytheBlade1 | `emerge i-do-it-all-http-smtp-pop3-imap-ssl-ftp-smb-cifs-afs-servers` away! |
| 06:57.22 | ScytheBlade1 | In all honesty, one already exists. It's called Windows Small Business Server 2003. |
| 06:57.46 | QBFreak | get away from me! |
| 06:58.01 | ScytheBlade1 | You think I'm kidding? |
| 06:58.45 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsServer2003/sbs/evaluation/features/default.mspx |
| 06:58.52 | QBFreak | I have not had good experiences leaving windows to do server tasks |
| 06:59.10 | ScytheBlade1 | What server tasks? |
| 06:59.22 | ctr_ | omg hi guys! |
| 06:59.24 | QBFreak | especially trying to share a very large disk over SMB under heavy load |
| 06:59.42 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be due to fragmentation, usually :) |
| 06:59.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Which sucks, but hey |
| 07:00.25 | QBFreak | the issue was that it would slow down until you let it breath for 10-15 minutes |
| 07:00.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Odd |
| 07:00.37 | QBFreak | or the box would run out of resources |
| 07:00.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, it *does* have random issues like that |
| 07:01.19 | QBFreak | so I set up one running linux, and other than the fact that ext3 doesn't do mroe than 8TB it went a lot better |
| 07:01.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Straight file serving, yeah, linux has it there |
| 07:01.46 | ScytheBlade1 | But considering that I can pop in a 2k3 SBS CD |
| 07:02.13 | QBFreak | I'll have to give windows that it was a lot faster to set up the volume |
| 07:02.22 | ScytheBlade1 | And have directory services + e-mail + proxy + database + VPN services + routing services + DNS + DHCP + etc |
| 07:02.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Up and running in under an hour |
| 07:02.43 | QBFreak | yeah, I spent a day beating my head on a NIC |
| 07:02.53 | QBFreak | finally just stuck another one in it, forget the onboard :) |
| 07:02.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:03.30 | QBFreak | at that point I was just happy it saw the fiber card |
| 07:04.34 | QBFreak | another advantage of linux there, all the processing apps are windows based so no one will try and process stuff on your server for better performance |
| 07:04.50 | QBFreak | which means you wont later encounter stability issues due to things getting messed up |
| 07:04.53 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 07:05.14 | QBFreak | three of the 2K3 servers are borked pretty bad |
| 07:05.21 | QBFreak | you can't open most of the control panel applets |
| 07:05.27 | QBFreak | or the disk management console |
| 07:05.37 | ScytheBlade1 | How the - - |
| 07:05.50 | QBFreak | no clue how it happened, but something got screwed up |
| 07:05.53 | ScytheBlade1 | It takes *skill* to mess up MMC |
| 07:06.08 | QBFreak | heh |
| 07:06.50 | QBFreak | StorageTek wants their loaner blade back, so the servers will be in a position to be wiped and reinstalled soon anyhow |
| 07:07.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:07.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Where do you work? |
| 07:07.42 | QBFreak | I used to work for Kodak's Digital Conversions group |
| 07:08.06 | QBFreak | I still do odds and ends for them, mostly maintainence on the linux stuff I'd set up while I was there |
| 07:08.32 | QBFreak | "We installed TWiki plugin X and now all the links are screwed up, help!" |
| 07:08.40 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:09.03 | QBFreak | that was a case of really poor default settings in the plugin, the author would have had to have a non-standard setup for it to work properly |
| 07:09.42 | QBFreak | yesterday I upgraded the intranet server, 500Mhz wasn't cutting it anymore |
| 07:09.59 | ScytheBlade1 | How much bandwidth do they push through? |
| 07:10.02 | QBFreak | no idea when I'll get paid, but it was fun :) |
| 07:10.11 | QBFreak | intranet? next to nothing, 10 people using a wiki |
| 07:10.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 07:10.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I read that wrong |
| 07:10.30 | QBFreak | from shared disks, as much as will flow |
| 07:12.08 | QBFreak | generally bandwidth is limited by disk speed or tape speed (when reading/writing tapes) |
| 07:12.28 | QBFreak | but yeah, the intranet server just runs a wiki and a calendar app |
| 07:12.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm doing stuff for my dad's law firm |
| 07:12.58 | ScytheBlade1 | They're opening up another office, so I'm taking advantage of the opportunity and having two copies of all of their data replicated between the sites |
| 07:13.17 | QBFreak | yeah, off-site backups are a good thing :) |
| 07:13.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Problem is this: they scan in 20MB .pdf files, some times several of these an hour, and due to location |
| 07:13.28 | ScytheBlade1 | The most we can get is a T1 line |
| 07:14.04 | ScytheBlade1 | ... :) |
| 07:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Hello bandwidth bottleneck |
| 07:14.17 | QBFreak | if they ever need any of that converted, I can suggest a good group to do it :) |
| 07:14.21 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:14.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd imagine you could ;) |
| 07:14.33 | QBFreak | the job I worked on involved converting to PDF actually |
| 07:14.54 | QBFreak | and then packaging for the customers internal format |
| 07:15.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I just need to find a way to replicate 100MB in under 15 minutes over a T1 line. :) |
| 07:15.18 | ScytheBlade1 | (Both ways, so more like 200MB) |
| 07:15.45 | QBFreak | I mostly did automation and managing the day-to-day conversion stuffs |
| 07:16.01 | QBFreak | what PDF compression format? |
| 07:16.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Not sure in all honesty |
| 07:16.14 | ScytheBlade1 | They have a Ricoh Afico 2075 |
| 07:16.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Scans it straight into .pdf and stores it over SMB |
| 07:16.33 | QBFreak | I'm trying to remember, I think JBIG2 (? JBG2?) is one of the best |
| 07:16.59 | QBFreak | or was it G...number |
| 07:17.05 | QBFreak | heh, its been a little while |
| 07:17.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Clearly ;) |
| 07:17.53 | QBFreak | yeah, JBIG2 is better than G4 |
| 07:18.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I have an option of multi-page TIFF and multi-page PDF ;) |
| 07:18.25 | QBFreak | I'd guess G4, that's straight Group4 data (like a TIFF but with PDF headers) |
| 07:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Any way to tell? |
| 07:18.49 | QBFreak | um, I used to know the HEX code to look for in the header... :) |
| 07:19.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got one open in hex right here and now ;) |
| 07:19.18 | QBFreak | I didn't look at the raw files much |
| 07:19.21 | QBFreak | unless something went wrong |
| 07:19.34 | QBFreak | the developer could tell though |
| 07:19.46 | TheDiff_ | between our two fridges there are 8 gallons of milk in there |
| 07:19.49 | ScytheBlade1 | %PDF-1.3 |
| 07:19.49 | ScytheBlade1 | %???? |
| 07:19.51 | TheDiff_ | that is out of control |
| 07:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | (If you can't see UTF-8, that would have been gibberish) |
| 07:20.20 | TheDiff_ | QBFreak: you can borrow some of ours |
| 07:20.21 | TheDiff_ | :) |
| 07:20.48 | QBFreak | heh |
| 07:21.12 | TheDiff_ | i can't wait till you can transport food |
| 07:21.14 | TheDiff_ | instantaneously |
| 07:21.33 | QBFreak | we'd all have milk despensers that never run out |
| 07:21.38 | QBFreak | they'd call the store for a refill |
| 07:22.05 | TheDiff_ | hell yeah |
| 07:22.45 | QBFreak | imagine, food clubs like the book clubs |
| 07:22.53 | QBFreak | make the mistake of ordering once and they keep sending it.... |
| 07:22.57 | QBFreak | and billing |
| 07:23.01 | TheDiff_ | i've never been to that |
| 07:23.02 | TheDiff_ | in that |
| 07:23.08 | TheDiff_ | I was in a CD club once |
| 07:23.09 | TheDiff_ | BMG |
| 07:23.13 | QBFreak | there are CD clubs like that too I imagine |
| 07:23.19 | TheDiff_ | everytime they sent crap, i just wrote "return to sender" |
| 07:23.24 | QBFreak | hehe |
| 07:23.27 | TheDiff_ | they stopped that Sh*t real quick |
| 07:25.04 | QBFreak | ScytheBlade1: I imagine there is a free app somewhere that lets you see info about the PDF |
| 07:25.11 | ScytheBlade1 | meh |
| 07:25.14 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd take effort ;) |
| 07:25.18 | QBFreak | hehe |
| 07:25.25 | QBFreak | I havn't been able to find one quickly |
| 07:27.08 | ScytheBlade1 | If there was a way to just make them smaller without any quality loss at all |
| 07:27.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be happy |
| 07:27.48 | QBFreak | for lotsacash CVision will let you license their conversion app, and then charge you to buy 'pages' |
| 07:28.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Whee! |
| 07:28.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Or not! |
| 07:28.16 | QBFreak | after burning through a lot of that we convinced the customer we could do an in-house app that was faster and better |
| 07:28.17 | QBFreak | and we did |
| 07:28.32 | ScytheBlade1 | They recieve 150 page *faxes*. We're not paying on a per-page basis ;) |
| 07:28.50 | QBFreak | it took a bit though, one of their execs was sold on the "Perceptually Lossless" stuff |
| 07:28.56 | QBFreak | well, not exec but someone important |
| 07:29.01 | ScytheBlade1 | right |
| 07:29.20 | QBFreak | in other words lossy but not enough to tell.... |
| 07:29.44 | QBFreak | some of the PDFs were old and in funny formats and we kept choking cvision's app |
| 07:29.59 | findlay | ~/. |
| 07:30.00 | ibot | it has been said that slashdot is http://slashdot.org, or they're so lame they had to interview unknown_lamer for more content |
| 07:30.00 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, nice |
| 07:30.26 | QBFreak | lets slashdot slashdot! |
| 07:30.57 | QBFreak | owowow it hurts |
| 07:31.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It's happened before |
| 07:31.08 | QBFreak | and now I know what the deal was with the ponies.... |
| 07:31.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:31.31 | ScytheBlade1 | surprise! |
| 07:31.34 | findlay | ibot: /. is also holiday to go cold turkey on /. addiction is Apr 01 GMT |
| 07:31.35 | ibot | findlay: okay |
| 07:31.36 | ScytheBlade1 | hey, it's 12:30 |
| 07:31.41 | ScytheBlade1 | The dryer should be done now |
| 07:31.42 | ScytheBlade1 | brb |
| 07:31.55 | QBFreak | findlay: heh |
| 07:32.18 | findlay | ~/. |
| 07:32.41 | QBFreak | it is a dangerous place |
| 07:33.03 | findlay | ibot: hello? |
| 07:33.04 | ibot | Howdy Bub |
| 07:33.25 | findlay | ibot: did my /. thingy break you? |
| 07:33.52 | QBFreak | ~break |
| 07:33.53 | ibot | "This release is currently considered ``unstable''. That means that things *will* break if you run it." (quote from old page http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/), or see ben break, or http://bugs.debian.org/155873 |
| 07:34.08 | QBFreak | ~qbfreak |
| 07:34.15 | QBFreak | ibot: qbfreak is foo |
| 07:34.16 | ibot | okay, QBFreak |
| 07:34.24 | QBFreak | ibot: qbfreak is also bar |
| 07:34.25 | ibot | okay, QBFreak |
| 07:34.28 | QBFreak | ~qbfreak |
| 07:34.29 | ibot | hmm... qbfreak is foo, or bar |
| 07:34.50 | QBFreak | ibot: qbfreak is not a freak |
| 07:34.51 | ibot | ...but qbfreak is already something else... |
| 07:35.02 | QBFreak | oops, is, heh |
| 07:35.18 | QBFreak | so...how do we clear those? |
| 07:35.24 | findlay | ibot: forget QBFreak |
| 07:35.24 | ibot | findlay: i didn't have anything called 'qbfreak ' to forget |
| 07:35.34 | findlay | ibot: forget QBFreak |
| 07:35.42 | QBFreak | ibot: forget qbfreak |
| 07:35.54 | findlay | ~forget QBFreak |
| 07:35.54 | ibot | findlay: i didn't have anything called 'qbfreak ' to forget |
| 07:35.57 | QBFreak | ibot: no qbfreak |
| 07:35.59 | findlay | ~forget QBFreak |
| 07:36.05 | QBFreak | he pmed me an error |
| 07:36.11 | findlay | me too |
| 07:36.13 | QBFreak | on my first attempt |
| 07:36.15 | QBFreak | 10[02:33] ibot: 01cannot remove factoid 'qbfreak', too old. (13239.3164583333>3600) use 'no,' instead |
| 07:36.17 | findlay | I think ibot's broken |
| 07:36.25 | QBFreak | heh, slashdot does taht |
| 07:36.38 | findlay | (: |
| 07:36.53 | findlay | sameish error |
| 07:37.04 | ScytheBlade1 | ~slashdot |
| 07:37.20 | QBFreak | ow! |
| 07:37.37 | findlay | ~/. |
| 07:37.45 | QBFreak | ~slashdot 1 |
| 07:37.56 | QBFreak | hmm, I was expecting 1 of 10 |
| 07:38.03 | QBFreak | feature suggestion :) |
| 07:38.41 | findlay | I think ibot may have broken on my addition to the definition to '/.' because it had two 'is' |
| 07:39.07 | QBFreak | ibot: qbfreak is also qbfreak is silly |
| 07:39.08 | ibot | QBFreak: okay |
| 07:39.11 | QBFreak | ~qbfreak |
| 07:39.13 | ibot | methinks qbfreak is foo, or bar, or qbfreak is silly |
| 07:39.25 | QBFreak | ~qbfreak not foo |
| 07:39.27 | QBFreak | err |
| 07:39.31 | findlay | ~forget it |
| 07:39.31 | ibot | i forgot it, findlay |
| 07:39.36 | QBFreak | ibot: qbfreak not foo |
| 07:39.38 | findlay | oh, heh |
| 07:39.44 | findlay | ~unforget it |
| 07:39.44 | ibot | findlay: Successfully recovered 'it'. Have fun now. |
| 07:39.47 | QBFreak | I hope it wasn't important :) |
| 07:39.49 | QBFreak | ~it |
| 07:39.51 | ibot | "It" is a clown that eats children but turns out to be a spider sorta thing. |
| 07:40.13 | findlay | what? spider?! thanks for the spoiler, ibot |
| 07:40.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I haven't read the book! |
| 07:40.51 | QBFreak | ibot: it is can be found on ebay |
| 07:40.52 | ibot | QBFreak: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:41.03 | QBFreak | I lost me too...silly grammar |
| 07:41.47 | findlay | ~forget about it |
| 07:41.47 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'about it' to forget, findlay |
| 07:42.05 | QBFreak | ~forget qbfreak |
| 07:42.15 | findlay | fun times playing with a bot on a Friday night |
| 07:42.16 | QBFreak | I broke it! |
| 07:42.18 | QBFreak | hehe |
| 07:42.23 | findlay | ~ibot |
| 07:42.24 | ibot | i heard ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 07:42.41 | findlay | ibot: is one wily bot |
| 07:43.11 | QBFreak | did I see a way to set up command things that take parameters? |
| 07:43.21 | QBFreak | like just says something based on what you entered? |
| 07:43.23 | QBFreak | err |
| 07:44.08 | findlay | ibot has an (online as in IRC) help that's occult |
| 07:44.51 | TheDiff_ | this will help the mormons figure out which movies they should avoid |
| 07:44.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone here used ejabberd? |
| 07:44.53 | TheDiff_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_ordered_by_uses_of_the_word_%22fuck%22 |
| 07:45.04 | findlay | OK |
| 07:45.38 | ScytheBlade1 | See, now, articles like that is why some people look down on wikipedia |
| 07:45.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It's more of a, "who cares?" kinda thing |
| 07:46.02 | TheDiff_ | I do |
| 07:46.05 | TheDiff_ | i think its awesome |
| 07:46.13 | ScytheBlade1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_films_ordered_by_uses_of_the_word_%22fuck%22 |
| 07:46.14 | TheDiff_ | thats why people look down on you |
| 07:46.28 | TheDiff_ | you dont care about things that are funny |
| 07:46.40 | TheDiff_ | i sleep now |
| 07:46.42 | ScytheBlade1 | People have tried to delete it twice, on the basis that it could be deleted and nothing adverse would happen in the world ;) |
| 07:46.47 | QBFreak | ibot: no qbfreak is test |
| 07:46.48 | ibot | QBFreak: okay |
| 07:46.52 | QBFreak | ~qbfreak |
| 07:46.53 | ibot | well, qbfreak is test |
| 07:47.00 | QBFreak | ibot: forget qbfreak |
| 07:47.04 | QBFreak | still broked |
| 07:47.07 | findlay | QBFreak: aha, you deciphered it |
| 07:47.21 | QBFreak | http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=249&group_id=8794 |
| 07:47.22 | brac | [SourceForge.net: EXAMPLES] |
| 07:47.32 | QBFreak | ~who |
| 07:47.41 | findlay | ~why |
| 07:47.42 | ibot | Because! |
| 07:47.45 | QBFreak | heh |
| 07:47.48 | QBFreak | ibot: whoami |
| 07:47.50 | ibot | you are qbfreak, or n=Cubey@cpe-069-132-229-120.carolina.res.rr.com on #utah and it's 2006.04.01. Don't believe me? Ask KillerMonk! |
| 07:48.04 | findlay | ~whereami |
| 07:48.06 | ibot | findlay (n=justin@67.137.24.114) is on #utah |
| 07:48.50 | QBFreak | why are you? :) |
| 07:48.51 | findlay | ~whyamihere |
| 07:49.05 | findlay | (nothing) |
| 07:49.33 | QBFreak | ibot: whyamihere is <reply> we ask ourselves that question every day, "why is $nick here?" |
| 07:49.34 | ibot | QBFreak: okay |
| 07:49.35 | findlay | ibot: you're supposed to tell me why I waste so much dissipated time on IRC |
| 07:49.38 | QBFreak | ~whyamihere |
| 07:49.39 | ibot | we ask ourselves that question every day, "why is qbfreak here?" |
| 07:49.57 | findlay | clever |
| 07:50.00 | findlay | (: |
| 07:50.00 | QBFreak | (and why wont he leave?) :) |
| 07:50.15 | QBFreak | I should have bolded the is |
| 07:50.38 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:50.43 | QBFreak | ibot: no whyamihere is <reply> we ask ourselves that question every day, "why *is* $nick here?" |
| 07:50.44 | ibot | okay, QBFreak |
| 07:50.49 | findlay | right |
| 07:50.53 | QBFreak | hmm, I thought ** was is |
| 07:50.56 | QBFreak | err |
| 07:51.06 | QBFreak | bold! |
| 07:51.40 | findlay | ibot: you're being very queer tonight |
| 07:52.15 | QBFreak | see, you slowly build a conversation with him and when someone comes back later, its like a madlib to their conversation :) |
| 07:52.32 | QBFreak | ie: ibot: you're being is <reply> I know! |
| 07:52.42 | QBFreak | or something stranger if you can think of it :) |
| 07:53.08 | QBFreak | ~cmdstats |
| 07:53.08 | ibot | command usage include 385 of Factoid Commands, 169 of babelfish, 45 of Dict, 28 of BZFlag, 18 of Weather, 16 of Help, 15 of Exchange, 12 of Factoid Info, 9 of spell, 8 of Factoid Search, 7 of wtf, 7 of nickometer, 5 of Debian Search, 5 of Maths, 5 of slashdot, 3 of dns, 3 of Tell, 2 of Debian Bugs, 2 of News, 2 of case, 1 ... |
| 07:53.52 | findlay | ~nickometer ~!@#$%^&*()_+|\=-0987654321` |
| 07:54.00 | findlay | close |
| 07:54.17 | QBFreak | ~info qbfreak |
| 07:55.03 | findlay | ~nickometer ~!@#$%^&*()_+|\=-`[];',./?><":}{ |
| 07:55.17 | QBFreak | ~rename qbfreak makethisonegoawayplease |
| 07:55.45 | QBFreak | wha...he says that's the incorrect usage and gives me that usage... |
| 07:56.14 | findlay | I blame Canada, and chiKITTENS! |
| 07:56.22 | QBFreak | I see |
| 07:56.28 | QBFreak | canada is a weird place |
| 07:57.26 | ctr_ | http://www.catsinsinks.com/ |
| 07:57.26 | brac | [Cats in Sinks - for all your cat and bathroom needs] |
| 07:57.30 | ctr_ | not as weird as idaho |
| 07:59.01 | findlay | brac: you're always there for us |
| 07:59.17 | QBFreak | brac: what can you do? |
| 07:59.18 | brac | I can't do that Dave. |
| 07:59.25 | findlay | going and grabbing <title>s in a jiffy |
| 07:59.30 | QBFreak | brac: I'm not dave |
| 07:59.48 | QBFreak | I added that feature to a bot I did, people loved it |
| 07:59.52 | findlay | brac: HELP!!@! |
| 08:00.07 | QBFreak | except two....enough to make me take it down for rewriting and I never got it back up |
| 08:00.46 | QBFreak | ibot: I'm stupid |
| 08:00.59 | QBFreak | ibot: I'm stupid is $nick-- |
| 08:01.00 | ibot | QBFreak: I think you lost me on that one |
| 08:01.05 | QBFreak | ibot: I'm stupid |
| 08:01.08 | QBFreak | nope |
| 08:01.16 | QBFreak | QBFreak-- |
| 08:01.21 | findlay | try <action>? |
| 08:01.22 | QBFreak | maybe that isn't enabled |
| 08:01.34 | findlay | that token? |
| 08:01.35 | QBFreak | yeah, I'm digging through help that is clearly marked outdated and incomplete |
| 08:01.44 | findlay | (: |
| 08:01.52 | QBFreak | maybe, but the karma stuff doesn't seem to be on at all |
| 08:01.55 | QBFreak | findlay++ |
| 08:01.59 | findlay | is ibot's source posted somewhere? |
| 08:02.07 | findlay | ~QBFreak++ |
| 08:02.08 | QBFreak | http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ ? |
| 08:02.11 | brac | [B L O O T B O T . H O M E] |
| 08:02.49 | QBFreak | ibot: whatis food? |
| 08:03.39 | findlay | ibot: where is the source? |
| 08:03.42 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, findlay |
| 08:03.42 | QBFreak | ~maths 1+3 |
| 08:03.53 | QBFreak | ibot: modules |
| 08:03.54 | ibot | [modules] a driver for a device (a part of a kernel) which can be dynamically loaded/unloaded.;; the Kernel's Secret Blend of Herbs and Spices |
| 08:04.10 | QBFreak | ibot: list modules |
| 08:05.04 | QBFreak | findlay: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/blootbot/blootbot/ ? |
| 08:06.06 | findlay | ibot: what kinds of tachyon densities are we talking about in order to achieve negative energy curvature for practicable universal spatial circumnavigation? |
| 08:06.09 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, findlay |
| 08:06.22 | QBFreak | me too... |
| 08:07.45 | QBFreak | ibot: test * is <reply> test $1 |
| 08:07.47 | ibot | Testing * is <reply> test $1... *****$$#$ |
| 08:07.47 | findlay | ibot: what about tachyon weak coupling with transitive mass particles for super relativistic spinors? |
| 08:08.03 | QBFreak | aha, we can do parameters |
| 08:08.31 | QBFreak | ibot: twiki is <reply> http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/$1 |
| 08:08.32 | ibot | ...but twiki is already something else... |
| 08:08.34 | findlay | hey, that last one almost sounded plausible only that I made it up (: |
| 08:08.36 | QBFreak | ~twiki |
| 08:08.37 | ibot | Web based collaboration tool. URL: http://www.mindspring.com/~peterthoeny/twiki/index.html |
| 08:08.55 | QBFreak | wow that looks like an old URL |
| 08:09.21 | QBFreak | ibot: no twiki is 10 01Web based collaboration tool. URL: http://twiki.org/ |
| 08:09.22 | ibot | QBFreak: okay |
| 08:09.39 | QBFreak | 4.0.2 is about to be released btw :) |
| 08:10.37 | QBFreak | ibot: qbfreak:* is <reply> qbfreak is $1 |
| 08:10.38 | ibot | QBFreak: okay |
| 08:10.43 | QBFreak | qbfreak:silly |
| 08:10.49 | QBFreak | heh |
| 08:10.51 | QBFreak | ~qbfreak:silly |
| 08:11.01 | QBFreak | I bet it's the colon, hmm |
| 08:11.12 | QBFreak | ~qbfreak:* |
| 08:11.22 | QBFreak | ibot: forget qbfreak: |
| 08:11.22 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'qbfreak:' to forget, QBFreak |
| 08:11.27 | QBFreak | ibot: forget qbfreak:* |
| 08:11.27 | ibot | i forgot qbfreak:*, QBFreak |
| 08:11.49 | QBFreak | ~Testing 123 |
| 08:11.50 | ibot | nothing |
| 08:12.01 | QBFreak | ~Testing true |
| 08:12.02 | ibot | nothing |
| 08:13.55 | QBFreak | ibot: join #qbfreak |
| 08:14.14 | QBFreak | interesting, makes sense to limit to a list I suppose |
| 08:15.50 | QBFreak | ibot: channels |
| 08:23.40 | findlay | ibot: how do you feel? |
| 08:23.42 | ibot | The question is irrelevant. |
| 08:23.53 | QBFreak | ibot: are you borg? |
| 08:24.09 | QBFreak | ibot: do you smell? |
| 08:24.10 | ibot | yes, I smell. |
| 08:24.16 | QBFreak | so that's who it is! |
| 08:24.30 | QBFreak | ibot: what do you taste like? |
| 08:24.41 | findlay | ibot is the only entity in this room with the powers of olfaction |
| 08:24.51 | QBFreak | amazing |
| 08:25.00 | QBFreak | ibot: you are the best |
| 08:25.02 | ibot | QBFreak: I think you lost me on that one |
| 08:25.16 | QBFreak | ibot: are you a bot? |
| 08:28.06 | findlay | I love this. Every time I restart fluxbox the font size changes |
| 08:28.14 | findlay | it keeps life interesting |
| 08:28.25 | QBFreak | itty bitty sometimes? :) |
| 08:28.39 | findlay | it's smallish today |
| 08:29.06 | QBFreak | is that a feature or a bug? :) |
| 08:29.15 | findlay | both I venture |
| 08:29.36 | findlay | tomorrow it'll be flashing hot pink |
| 08:29.41 | QBFreak | I should say, was it intentional? :) |
| 08:30.24 | findlay | well, I haev emerged new revs of xorg and fluxbox in the past few days (: |
| 08:30.46 | findlay | s/have/g |
| 08:31.47 | QBFreak | s/haev/have/ |
| 08:32.08 | QBFreak | silly bot ignores other people's s/// |
| 08:32.33 | findlay | s/g/i/ |
| 08:33.12 | findlay | s/\//g |
| 08:33.22 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:41.34 | findlay | ~say April fo0lz!@! |
| 08:41.35 | ibot | April fo0lz!@! |
| 08:42.04 | findlay | ibot: good afternoon is good evening and good night |
| 08:42.06 | ibot | ...but good afternoon is already something else... |
| 08:42.09 | findlay | ~good afternoon |
| 08:42.11 | ibot | good afternoon, findlay |
| 08:42.17 | findlay | that's boring |
| 08:42.19 | QBFreak | ~good morning |
| 08:42.21 | ibot | i guess good morning is a contradiction in terms |
| 08:42.33 | QBFreak | that one should have the truman show quote |
| 08:42.45 | findlay | yeah, you're right |
| 08:43.19 | QBFreak | ibot: no, good morning is <reply> Good morning! And in case I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening and goodnight! |
| 08:43.20 | ibot | QBFreak: okay |
| 08:43.35 | QBFreak | close enough I suppose |
| 08:44.01 | ctr_ | <3 (net-eval) |
| 08:44.03 | ctr_ | oops |
| 08:44.06 | ctr_ | ignore |
| 08:44.15 | QBFreak | ~ignore ctr_ |
| 08:44.16 | ibot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, ctr_!" |
| 08:44.37 | QBFreak | ~unignore ctr_ |
| 08:44.46 | QBFreak | must be a factoid |
| 08:49.05 | ctr_ | :( |
| 08:57.49 | QBFreak | anyone know how to tell nickserv I want to change my password? |
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| 09:05.19 | ctr_ | i suck at irc |
| 09:05.21 | ctr_ | sorry :( |
| 09:05.30 | QBFreak | I found it |
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| 13:49.36 | dilvie | http://www.knobtweakers.net/2006/04/new-format-country-music.html |
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| 14:56.56 | emcnabb | I like the first line of this 419 scam message I just got: |
| 14:57.03 | emcnabb | Dear Mcnabb |
| 14:57.04 | emcnabb | I crave your indulgence as I contact you in such a surprising manner and I want you to bear in mind that this is not a hoax mail but I respectfully insist you read this mail carefully as I am optimistic it will open door for unimaginable financial reward for both of us. |
| 14:57.17 | emcnabb | man, I really want to respond |
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| 15:04.15 | dilvie | hahaha |
| 15:04.20 | dilvie | resist the urge |
| 15:19.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a friend who leads them on |
| 15:19.45 | ScytheBlade1 | A lot |
| 15:19.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Then, gives them straight fake info |
| 15:38.11 | ScytheBlade1 | All right, /. pushed it a little far here |
| 15:38.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Warning to all right now: The free unicorn t-shirt really *is* too good to be true. NSFW. |
| 15:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | ~slashdot |
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| 16:03.02 | maquis | http://www.google.com/romance/ |
| 16:03.03 | brac | [Google Romance] |
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| 16:03.37 | maquis | i like the option to "Post multiple profiles with a bulk upload file |
| 16:03.40 | maquis | "" |
| 16:04.02 | maquis | all-expenses-paid dates for couples who agree to experience contextually relevant advertising throughout the course of their evening. |
| 16:04.52 | dilvie | heh |
| 16:05.36 | maquis | Here on the Google Romance team, we follow the philosophy "Don't be medieval," so we brought only the latest psychographic and search algorithms to bear on the problem of hooking up our users. |
| 16:08.52 | maquis | -lart elg for flooding the open-source planet thing |
| 16:08.58 | dilvie | .. /. is better. |
| 16:09.00 | dilvie | Seriously. |
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| 16:09.22 | dilvie | OMG!!! Ponies!!! on /. is the funniest thing ever. |
| 16:09.51 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.53 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, uh, NSFW warning should be on it though ;) |
| 16:10.37 | ScytheBlade1 | erm, the unicorns I meant. Yeah. |
| 16:10.55 | dilvie | it's much better than my april fool's joke. *sigh* http://www.knobtweakers.net/2006/04/new-format-country-music.html |
| 16:11.36 | maquis | haha |
| 16:11.46 | ScytheBlade1 | A few years ago, I was with a Blizzard game modding site |
| 16:11.55 | ScytheBlade1 | For april fools, we added some new bbcode to the site |
| 16:12.06 | ScytheBlade1 | That replaced certain text with the currently logged in user name :) |
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| 16:12.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Then, we posted a new news post |
| 16:12.27 | ScytheBlade1 | "We've been thinking, and we've all agreed, that itsame needs to be banned." |
| 16:12.32 | dilvie | "Why don't y'all learn to play some real instruments, anyway?" |
| 16:12.48 | ScytheBlade1 | BOOM, we had two pages of posts asking "What'd I do?!", then four more of "good job, you got me" |
| 16:13.08 | dilvie | hahaha |
| 16:13.22 | maquis | google makes it fun, since they do real and fake things for april fools |
| 16:13.50 | dilvie | nobody will ever out prank pidgeon rank |
| 16:14.03 | dilvie | some idiots actually _believed that_ |
| 16:14.06 | ScytheBlade1 | The funny thing is, pidgeon rank is semi-real |
| 16:14.22 | ScytheBlade1 | If you replace each pidgeon pecking with a link on a website |
| 16:14.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It kinda relates |
| 16:14.29 | maquis | haha |
| 16:14.29 | dilvie | yeah, kinda |
| 16:14.43 | dilvie | but people actually believed there were pidgeons! |
| 16:14.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, people are dumb |
| 16:14.51 | maquis | :) |
| 16:14.57 | ScytheBlade1 | (Or just ignorant) |
| 16:14.58 | maquis | which is what makes this day so fun :) |
| 16:15.26 | dilvie | pigeon rank |
| 16:15.28 | dilvie | =P |
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| 16:15.54 | dilvie | if you missed it: http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html |
| 16:15.54 | brac | [Google Technology] |
| 16:15.56 | ScytheBlade1 | LOL |
| 16:16.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I found out what else google did today |
| 16:16.03 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.jarnot.com/mt/archives/2006/04/they_come_in_pe.php |
| 16:16.08 | brac | [Kevin.Jarnot.Com: They Come in Peace...and for the BBQ] |
| 16:16.18 | ScytheBlade1 | added aliens to area 51 in google eatch |
| 16:16.19 | ScytheBlade1 | *earth |
| 16:16.34 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.jarnot.com/images/google_earth_area51-2.jpg |
| 16:16.43 | dilvie | hahah |
| 16:16.59 | maquis | :) |
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| 16:44.41 | elg | hmm, the general conference feed is taking for freaking ever to fill the cache |
| 16:59.35 | maquis | elg: sucky |
| 16:59.50 | elg | finally full, seems to be working |
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| 17:06.02 | ^Migs^ | GREETINGS |
| 17:12.39 | maquis | ^Migs^: welcome to the live conference discussion :) |
| 17:16.56 | ^Migs^ | what's the mind-blowing topic today? |
| 17:19.20 | mheath | "Sometimes when you look back on a situation, you realize it wasn't all you thought it was. A beautiful girl walked into your life. You fell in love. Or did you? Maybe it was only a childish infatuation, or maybe just a brief moment of vanity." |
| 17:19.36 | mheath | "To be brave is to love someone unconditionally, without expecting anything in return. To just give. That takes courage, because we don't want to fall on our faces or leave ourselves open to hurt." |
| 17:19.46 | mheath | "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come." |
| 17:20.32 | ^Migs^ | heh, there are some great April Fools Jokes floating around the web |
| 17:20.56 | mheath | Woah, who was using my computer? |
| 17:20.57 | ^Migs^ | http://www.google.com/romance/ |
| 17:20.58 | brac | [Google Romance] |
| 17:21.12 | mheath | And, more specifically, who set my Firefox home page to yahoo? |
| 17:21.13 | mheath | Ugh |
| 17:22.16 | mheath | Probably Jason... |
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| 17:25.05 | Lone_Wanderer | Is conference available via streaming? |
| 17:25.13 | maquis | Lone_Wanderer: yup |
| 17:25.18 | maquis | lds.org has it someplace |
| 17:25.18 | Lone_Wanderer | lds.org? |
| 17:26.16 | Lone_Wanderer | bah, windows media |
| 17:26.19 | mheath | It doesn't matter |
| 17:26.22 | Lone_Wanderer | I'd rather just move my laptop closer to the TV |
| 17:26.53 | mheath | Because no matter how much the higher ups in the LDS church talk about unconditional love, acceptance, tolerance, and foregiveness, people in the LDS church won't listen |
| 17:27.09 | mheath | Or find some way to explain how alienation and selective hatred doesn't fall under those categories. |
| 17:27.11 | Lone_Wanderer | You're right. |
| 17:27.16 | Lone_Wanderer | We'd better just give up. |
| 17:27.23 | Lone_Wanderer | zomg people are imperfect! |
| 17:27.34 | Lone_Wanderer | that's it! I'm going on a murderous rampage. |
| 17:28.26 | maquis | mheath: some people may... but some of us actually like to listen and follow the teachings we're given |
| 17:29.18 | maquis | Lone_Wanderer: from the discussion on ldsoss, it appears that the byutv stream is the easiest for linux: |
| 17:29.25 | maquis | ttp://www.byutv.org/streaming/ |
| 17:29.26 | maquis | erm |
| 17:29.27 | Lone_Wanderer | well |
| 17:29.31 | maquis | with an h at the beginning |
| 17:29.32 | Lone_Wanderer | I can hear pretty well from here |
| 17:29.38 | Lone_Wanderer | they turned up the volume |
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| 17:30.26 | elg | for audio, mplayer mms://stream.lds.org/genconf2006aprenglish16 worked for me |
| 17:30.40 | elg | but if you're in utah you would just use a radio, right? |
| 17:30.45 | mheath | maquis: I just find it interesting to watch my dad watch talks that really are about things like love, unconditional acceptance (I'm not watching it, they just usually discuss things like this), with the full knowledge that my dad would be excommunicated if they knew certain things about him. |
| 17:32.01 | elg | gee I'm glad I haven't trusted you with any secrets |
| 17:32.20 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm not sure what that has to do with unconditional love. |
| 17:32.37 | mheath | And when I was involved with the Church (years ago, now) it just seems like I hurd constant streams of hypocrisy. |
| 17:32.50 | Lone_Wanderer | heard? |
| 17:33.03 | mheath | heh, yeah. Fonixs! |
| 17:33.13 | maquis | i'm with Lone_Wanderer --- unconditional love has nothing to do with any of that |
| 17:33.29 | maquis | i can have unconditional love toward someone who's been excommunicated |
| 17:33.29 | Lone_Wanderer | So people are imperfect. |
| 17:33.31 | Lone_Wanderer | That's not news. |
| 17:33.47 | maquis | the church is perfect... the people in the church aren't |
| 17:34.28 | mheath | maquis: Being told to have unconditional love is in no way in conflict with stopping people from coming to your church meetings and making them feel uncomfotable and lienated if they do? |
| 17:34.38 | mheath | *alienated |
| 17:35.21 | Lone_Wanderer | Nobody stops anyone from coming to church meetings. |
| 17:35.59 | maquis | mheath: the point of excommunication is to help them... it's not to prevent people from coming to church... if people make them feel uncomfortable, those people will be held responsible for what they're doing... that goes back to the people being imperfect |
| 17:36.08 | ^Migs^ | graned, I haven't been paying attention to this conversation, but what exactly do you mean by "hypocrisy"? |
| 17:36.33 | maquis | anyway... i don't wantto discuss it at the moment... |
| 17:36.53 | mheath | ^Migs^: Case in point: "Oh, I know we're not supposed to judge people, but that guy she was with looked scary." |
| 17:37.14 | Lone_Wanderer | So people are mean. |
| 17:37.17 | Lone_Wanderer | La dee dah. |
| 17:37.20 | ^Migs^ | that's really not exclusive to LDS peeps |
| 17:37.40 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't see what that has to do with watching conference. |
| 17:37.47 | ^Migs^ | it's long been recognized by students of religion that adherents of a religion invariably fail to live up to all its tenets. |
| 17:37.50 | elg | look at ibot, for example |
| 17:38.15 | ^Migs^ | it's one of the factors that make a religion last for a long time, impossible goals |
| 17:38.26 | mheath | ^Migs^: Not my current religion. :) |
| 17:38.48 | ^Migs^ | if you feel you're constantly engaged in a good cause, you can spend the rest of your life doing it |
| 17:38.53 | mheath | I don't know. It just seemed like i sat through too many contradictory classes, and heard too much hypocrisy. That was my initial reason for leaving the LDS church. |
| 17:39.20 | ^Migs^ | I imagine you wouldn't like being in any other church then :) |
| 17:39.44 | ^Migs^ | or being in most social settings, for that matter |
| 17:39.56 | mheath | ^Migs^: I now observe a mild, limited form of Budhism. |
| 17:40.03 | ^Migs^ | nice |
| 17:40.29 | mheath | My belief in deities remains agnostic, however. |
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| 17:48.30 | Lone_Wanderer | thanks for the help maquis |
| 18:00.56 | ^Migs^ | geez, I had the most massive dook |
| 18:01.53 | ^Migs^ | my bathroom is officially condemned for the next 3 hours |
| 18:01.53 | maquis | tmi |
| 18:02.05 | ^Migs^ | it didn't all go down, so I picked up the plunger, but when I picked it up off the ground a bunch of toilet water that was somehow stuck in it spilled all over my foot |
| 18:02.13 | ^Migs^ | very nasty |
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| 18:03.08 | linuxalien | Found this on Fark.com |
| 18:03.10 | linuxalien | Mormons planning to move to Saskatchewan to set up new polygamist society, hoping sodomite Canadians won't even notice, let alone care |
| 18:03.19 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 18:03.27 | ^Migs^ | more polygamy jokes. What a riot. |
| 18:03.32 | linuxalien | hehehe |
| 18:04.53 | ^Migs^ | as if there aren't already millions upon millions of them |
| 18:05.35 | linuxalien | Yup. I'm LDS but I still thought it was funny for some reason. I guess it's lack of sleep. ;) |
| 18:06.10 | ^Migs^ | well, the Canadian jab is nice |
| 18:08.05 | linuxalien | Yeah - that was funny. |
| 18:08.38 | ^Migs^ | as if there aren't already millions upon millions of Canadian jokes |
| 18:08.38 | linuxalien | Reminds me of the Canada song from Mystery Science Theater 3000 |
| 18:08.52 | linuxalien | I think everyone has jokes about them |
| 18:09.00 | ^Migs^ | best not to tell jokes at all |
| 18:09.17 | linuxalien | Yup |
| 19:01.50 | ^Migs^ | how do you trace IPs to their [approx] location? |
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| 19:18.35 | mheath | ^Migs^: Theres tools to do it. Ranges of IPs are licensed to ISPs for use in a general geographic area. |
| 19:19.55 | ^Migs^ | what tools? |
| 19:20.01 | ^Migs^ | what's a good one? |
| 19:46.25 | maquis | ^Migs^: whois? |
| 19:53.12 | ^Migs^ | oh right |
| 19:53.18 | ^Migs^ | I meant like an app |
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| 20:31.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:32.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I was wondering where I had seen that before |
| 20:32.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ~slashdot |
| 20:32.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Very first headline there is yours ;) |
| 20:32.44 | ^Migs^ | haha, SQL on Rails |
| 20:32.50 | ^Migs^ | I missed that one |
| 20:32.52 | nick125 | lol |
| 20:33.05 | nick125 | :) |
| 20:33.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Good job, you got posted on /. ;) |
| 20:33.12 | nick125 | average (5s sliding average) |
| 20:33.12 | nick125 | Requests46 req/s |
| 20:33.13 | nick125 | Traffic1.14 Mbyte/s |
| 20:33.17 | ^Migs^ | I love geek humor |
| 20:33.18 | ScytheBlade1 | nice |
| 20:33.37 | maquis | geek humor is the best humor ever |
| 20:35.20 | mheath | They got my shirt too long and my coat too short. |
| 20:35.21 | mheath | bah. |
| 20:35.28 | mheath | So much for "You're going to like the way you look" |
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| 20:44.15 | sjansen | http://www.pantheon.org/articles/f/fenrir.html |
| 20:44.17 | brac | [Fenrir] |
| 20:44.29 | ^Migs^ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Flag_Linux |
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| 20:53.02 | mheath | I'm going to have lamb for dinner |
| 20:53.07 | mheath | Or....slow roasted prime rib |
| 20:58.37 | sjansen | ~rlart |
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| 21:19.34 | emcnabb | oh yeah, we just got back our federal tax refund |
| 21:19.54 | maquis | -lart emcnabb |
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| 21:45.06 | dilvie | hahaha |
| 21:45.08 | dilvie | http://www.linux.org/news/2006/03/31/0008.html |
| 21:45.12 | dilvie | *tear* |
| 21:51.04 | levi | Oh my. |
| 21:51.11 | maquis | erm.. wow |
| 21:51.32 | sjansen | dilvie: I was glad to hear you've decided to dedicate your site to Country music. It's _so_ hard to find good Country online. |
| 21:51.52 | maquis | so, who's coming to the dance tonight? |
| 21:52.08 | sjansen | dilvie: Perhaps you should check out "Sertanejo" (and "Sertaneja"). It's basically Brazilian Country. |
| 21:53.26 | mheath | http://www.myspace.com/searchingneverfinding |
| 21:53.42 | mheath | couple of pictures of me in my tux |
| 21:55.01 | dilvie | http://www.tuttletimes.com/local/local_story_088201244.html |
| 21:55.03 | brac | [The Tuttle Times - City manager misunderstanding prompts international response] |
| 21:56.31 | maquis | :) |
| 21:56.46 | sjansen | Looks like he got his wish. |
| 21:58.29 | maquis | "Just like computers need an operating system to function, like MacOS or Windows, web sites do too, and CentOS is one of those" |
| 21:58.59 | sjansen | Mad, after reading the paragraph explaining what Cent-OS is, I'm not sure I understand what Cent-OS is anymore. |
| 21:59.07 | maquis | :) |
| 21:59.08 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 22:00.02 | maquis | erm... |
| 22:00.33 | maquis | this article is not quite the side of things that i think we want to have out there |
| 22:01.59 | sjansen | Bummer the article doesn't make it more clear that Taylor was being rude and stupid. |
| 22:03.53 | maquis | in some places, it gives the impression that hughes was being rude, which he wasn't |
| 22:04.43 | ScytheBlade1 | There's one thing I really wish the media would do now |
| 22:04.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Cite *their* sources :) |
| 22:17.23 | emcnabb | that recent General Conference comment was for us geeks |
| 22:17.41 | emcnabb | (the man and woman on the airplane story) |
| 22:17.53 | maquis | emcnabb: :) |
| 22:17.58 | maquis | where did you ever get that idea :) |
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| 22:19.16 | bonez39 | anyone else here getting phished and spammed from the chase bank posers? |
| 22:19.29 | maquis | bonez39: i get those constantly |
| 22:20.16 | bonez39 | maquis, is there no way to configure SA and clamav and other tools to filter that Sh_t out? |
| 22:20.43 | bonez39 | damn...one day last week, I swear...I received no less than 3000, ...thousand.....emails....all spam/phish from the chase gang |
| 22:20.51 | maquis | bonez39: i don't know... i'm sure you could just tell it to kick out anything for chase bank |
| 22:20.59 | bonez39 | are they just blanketing the world with their crap? |
| 22:21.02 | maquis | ~language bonez39 |
| 22:21.03 | ibot | ACTION grabs bonez39 by the ear and washes bonez39's mouth out with soap |
| 22:21.04 | maquis | :) |
| 22:21.16 | maquis | gmail does ok with getting most of them filtered |
| 22:21.16 | bonez39 | oh......what swear word did I type? |
| 22:21.34 | bonez39 | crap |
| 22:21.40 | bonez39 | is that the magic word? |
| 22:21.46 | bonez39 | was sh_t? |
| 22:21.52 | bonez39 | or what else did I type? |
| 22:21.53 | maquis | no... none of those |
| 22:21.56 | bonez39 | sheesh...... |
| 22:21.58 | bonez39 | damn? |
| 22:21.59 | maquis | dam* |
| 22:22.31 | bonez39 | that's where you hold back the water...for irrigation..and power....at the dam dam.......where you get dam water...and talk to the dam man....and drive across the dam road.....and all that dam fun..... |
| 22:23.02 | bonez39 | wow........that's tight....I mean....Dam******n is in the bible....it's what happens to people who send out chase bank phishing emails....right? |
| 22:23.30 | maquis | bonez39: true... |
| 22:23.31 | bonez39 | ok, I feel better...got all that damning out of my system..... |
| 22:23.47 | maquis | just being consistent in my language-ing :) |
| 22:23.55 | bonez39 | so you get that shtuff too, eh? |
| 22:26.09 | bonez39 | what about amavis? do you use it? |
| 22:27.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, I've never, EVER had a teacher play favorites like this |
| 22:27.18 | bonez39 | who's the teacher? |
| 22:27.20 | ScytheBlade1 | My grade was sitting at a 53% due to me not being in class for other activities |
| 22:27.24 | ScytheBlade1 | (High school) |
| 22:27.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I was failing |
| 22:27.36 | ScytheBlade1 | The points I have *did not change* |
| 22:27.39 | ScytheBlade1 | My grade is now a B- |
| 22:27.43 | maquis | wow |
| 22:27.46 | maquis | how'd you do that? |
| 22:27.51 | maquis | you sure it wasn't just a curve? |
| 22:27.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Positive |
| 22:28.06 | ScytheBlade1 | And no clue |
| 22:28.07 | maquis | did you talk to the teacher or something? |
| 22:28.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, I did |
| 22:28.17 | bonez39 | and the reply? |
| 22:28.20 | ScytheBlade1 | But... trust me on this, she's playing favorites here |
| 22:28.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I talked to her, set had it at a D when I left |
| 22:28.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Passing, which considering the amount of work I missed |
| 22:28.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Was fine |
| 22:28.50 | ScytheBlade1 | She does *not* apply a curve to the class |
| 22:29.04 | ScytheBlade1 | But I have no other explanation as to what changed - aside from the letter grade |
| 22:29.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a B- with a sixty-something percent |
| 22:30.06 | bonez39 | I'd say thanks..and move on... |
| 22:30.32 | ScytheBlade1 | It's kinda creepy, almost |
| 22:31.13 | bonez39 | yeah... |
| 22:31.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I *know* that other people have a higher % and a lower letter grade than I do, too |
| 22:32.04 | ScytheBlade1 | And that's why it's kinda creepy |
| 22:32.09 | maquis | i have had classes where i honestly wondered how i ended up with the grade i had... but usually it's more due to curves |
| 22:32.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Hard to complain, but at the same time... |
| 22:33.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a concurrent enrollment class to |
| 22:33.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I get college credit for this class |
| 22:36.20 | dilvie | has anybody else noticed that lilo is slightly evil? |
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| 22:36.30 | ScytheBlade1 | evil? |
| 22:36.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, the bootloader or IRC op? |
| 22:36.44 | dilvie | hahaha |
| 22:36.49 | maquis | slightly? |
| 22:36.52 | dilvie | both, actually. |
| 22:37.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, which one in question? ;) |
| 22:37.20 | dilvie | the IRC op |
| 22:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I've talked with him on the phone.. he's not too evil sounding at all... |
| 22:37.43 | dilvie | [Global Notice] Hmmm. You know, I could do an April Fool's Day joke, but maybe instead we should make this a group effort. Let's all just go to irc.oftc.net channel #oftc, and tell them that freenode has shut down and has repointed its servers to OFTC, and ask if they're going to be adding more facilities to handle the load. 8) |
| 22:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | LOL |
| 22:38.03 | ScytheBlade1 | That's not evil |
| 22:38.04 | ScytheBlade1 | That's genius |
| 22:38.17 | dilvie | genius can be evil. |
| 22:38.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Regardless |
| 22:38.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I like it |
| 22:38.39 | ScytheBlade1 | awwwwww |
| 22:38.39 | ScytheBlade1 | --- Cannot join #oftc (Channel is invite only). |
| 22:38.39 | brac | okay |
| 22:38.47 | ScytheBlade1 | That was quick |
| 22:38.52 | dilvie | hahaha |
| 22:39.11 | maquis | oftc? |
| 22:39.27 | dilvie | you'd do that too, if you were faced by a sudden join flood |
| 22:39.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Another (much smaller) OSS centric IRC network |
| 22:40.02 | maquis | ah |
| 22:40.26 | ScytheBlade1 | --- I have 649 clients and 1 servers |
| 22:40.26 | ScytheBlade1 | --- Current local users: 649 Max: 716 |
| 22:40.26 | ScytheBlade1 | --- Current global users: 2982 Max: 3165 |
| 22:42.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Still invite only |
| 22:42.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Dang |
| 22:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:43.27 | ScytheBlade1 | #oftc is their biggest channel now |
| 22:43.28 | ScytheBlade1 | 104 users |
| 22:44.43 | mheath | Hmm. I wonder what she'll say when I don't pick her up and she doesn't go to Prom. |
| 22:44.49 | maquis | ?? |
| 22:44.55 | mheath | I really don't want anything to do with women now. |
| 22:45.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Uh... |
| 22:45.07 | maquis | mheath: sorry... we're all jerks |
| 22:45.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That's never a good thing |
| 22:47.45 | maquis | mheath: i'd suggest not ditching the girl, though... |
| 22:48.11 | mheath | maquis: I really don't care. |
| 22:48.16 | maquis | unless you really want to destroy her self-confidence, and get yourself thought of as a jerk by everyone around |
| 22:48.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that usually has very bad, worse than your current circumstances results |
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| 22:48.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty much regardless of what your current circumstance is |
| 22:48.51 | mheath | Why go? So I can spend hours putting tons of effort into entertaining her, knowning that I'll get nothing out of it? |
| 22:48.54 | mheath | Thats all my life is |
| 22:49.14 | mheath | putting huge amounts of effort into things, and never getting anything back. After a while, I just get tired of it. |
| 22:49.38 | maquis | mheath: it doesn't have to be anything big |
| 22:49.55 | maquis | just... standing her up is pretty bad |
| 22:50.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Very bad |
| 22:50.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Especially on prom |
| 22:52.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I've actually been stood up once (and I'm male!), not due to her but for other random issues, on a dance considered "less" than prom |
| 22:52.26 | ScytheBlade1 | and I'm still dealing with the after effects, and that was over 6 months ago |
| 22:55.30 | ScytheBlade1 | bbl |
| 23:11.39 | mheath | http://www.myspace.com/searchingneverfinding |
| 23:21.27 | mheath | This tux was measured very poorly |
| 23:21.42 | mheath | Shirt is way too long in the sleeves, coat too short |
| 23:21.45 | mheath | Legs a bit too short |
| 23:22.01 | ctr_ | HI1 |
| 23:22.37 | mheath | PENALTY: EXCESSIVE USE OF THE SHIFT KEY! |
| 23:23.32 | ctr_ | excessive? |
| 23:23.43 | ctr_ | I only used it on one too many characters |
| 23:23.51 | ctr_ | the i |
| 23:23.57 | ctr_ | Hi1 |
| 23:23.58 | ctr_ | there |
| 23:24.52 | mheath | Heh. |
| 23:24.56 | mheath | I still think I look pretty good in this. |
| 23:27.37 | ctr_ | oh |
| 23:29.26 | mheath | Someone would make a fortune if they create a MySpace-equivelent that offered the same features but didn't have so many bugs |
| 23:29.35 | mheath | ability to import your MySpace profile, etc. |
| 23:30.11 | ctr_ | actually no they wouldn't |
| 23:30.58 | ctr_ | the idea is tired, it'd be far too late to do it now |
| 23:31.35 | ctr_ | in generally people who use myspace don't really care about those bugs like you or I would |
| 23:31.46 | mheath | ctr_: but they are annoyances |
| 23:31.51 | mheath | like their Instant Messenger |
| 23:31.51 | ctr_ | sure they are |
| 23:32.00 | mheath | they used to have a javascript-based Instant Messenger |
| 23:32.02 | ctr_ | but most of myspaces user base could care less |
| 23:32.11 | ctr_ | they've been conditioned to accept it |
| 23:32.20 | ctr_ | and unless you get 70 percent of them to leave |
| 23:32.25 | ctr_ | no one is gonna do it |
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| 23:32.40 | mheath | I actually had an idea for a wiki + social networking site |
| 23:32.42 | ctr_ | because people want to have their profile where everyone does |
| 23:33.13 | ctr_ | everyone else does* |
| 23:34.36 | mheath | Imagine a more pop-culture-centric wikipedia, linked to an advanced social networking site that has the same features as MySpace |
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| 23:49.20 | dilvie | mheath: um. |
| 23:49.38 | dilvie | mheath: do you have the time and the desire to develop it? |
| 23:50.04 | mheath | Probably not. Didn't say I did. |
| 23:50.17 | dilvie | oh, damn. |
| 23:50.29 | mheath | Heh. |
| 23:50.45 | dilvie | I actually have some ideas along those lines that I think have real potential. |
| 23:51.13 | mheath | dilvie: maybe we should discuss things |
| 23:51.53 | dilvie | mheath: understand, I wouldn't do much of the coding... |
| 23:52.09 | elg | dilvie: you shouldn't even joke about country music |
| 23:52.17 | dilvie | elg: hahaha |
| 23:52.28 | elg | today has got to be the most worthless day for reading blogs. :) |
| 23:52.42 | dilvie | Sorry. |
| 23:52.45 | elg | hey, I could say I flooded the utah blog thingy on purpose for april fools. :) |
| 23:52.58 | elg | no, I thought it was funny. more subtle than, say, OMG!!! Ponies!!! |
| 23:58.21 | elg | this one's pretty funny too |
| 23:58.21 | elg | http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/000582.html |
| 23:58.23 | brac | [Emo Programming: Beyond agile and pragmatic (Loud Thinking)] |
