| 00:00.02 | ^Migs^ | space is like a circle. If you take any two points on that circle and draw a line between them, warp would be like traversing that line. |
| 00:00.38 | atoponce | a circle or sphere? |
| 00:00.56 | ^Migs^ | I'm using a circle as an easier example, but obviously a sphere, and even higher dimension objects, would work, too |
| 00:01.18 | ^Migs^ | so if I wanted to warp from my chair over to the couch, it's not that I'd be travelling faster necessarily. I'd just be compressing more space. |
| 00:01.37 | atoponce | and would that be along the arc of the great circle? |
| 00:01.42 | findlay | ~lart netbios |
| 00:01.45 | ^Migs^ | no |
| 00:01.57 | ^Migs^ | it would 'create' a new line between point A and point B. The arc itself is normal space. |
| 00:02.13 | ^Migs^ | the creation of a new line simulates compressed space |
| 00:02.21 | ^Migs^ | this is all very basic |
| 00:02.32 | ^Migs^ | very basic sci-fi stuff, I mean |
| 00:03.26 | maquis | ^Migs^: i think the way they talk about it in _A_Wrinkle_In_Time_ makes more sense in some ways :) |
| 00:03.32 | maquis | but I see what you're saying |
| 00:03.46 | maquis | in there, they call it a tesseract, but it's similar |
| 00:03.57 | ^Migs^ | I haven't read that book ni years |
| 00:04.13 | ^Migs^ | I do remember the term tesseract, though. And even using "tesser" as a verb. |
| 00:04.16 | maquis | the way it's described in that book is very similar to how it's described in Black Holes and Time Warps by Kip Thorne, too |
| 00:04.47 | ^Migs^ | interesting how the book is 40 years old |
| 00:04.50 | maquis | The beauty of the explanation in A Wrinkle in Time is that it's intended for kids, and it's comprehensible by kids |
| 00:05.07 | ^Migs^ | I have it as an audiobook, actually |
| 00:05.12 | maquis | i love those books |
| 00:05.26 | ^Migs^ | I'll have to read it again sometime maybe perhaps |
| 00:05.47 | maquis | Many Waters was always my favorite in the series... until I read... umm... it's in Celtic times... what's it called??? |
| 00:06.21 | maquis | An Acceptable Time |
| 00:06.27 | ^Migs^ | haven't read those |
| 00:06.28 | findlay | maquis: use your special powers to find out |
| 00:06.36 | maquis | findlay: that's what i did |
| 00:06.51 | ^Migs^ | I only read A Wrinkle in Time and A Swiftly Tilting Planet |
| 00:06.56 | maquis | oh... |
| 00:07.00 | maquis | i love them all! :) |
| 00:07.00 | ^Migs^ | I think I was only about 10 though. I remember nothing about them |
| 00:07.07 | maquis | :) |
| 00:07.12 | ^Migs^ | probably even younger than that |
| 00:09.23 | ^Migs^ | I haven't read a non-technical hardcopy book since I was about 15 |
| 00:09.35 | ^Migs^ | I listened to audiobooks for awhile, though |
| 00:09.38 | ^Migs^ | mostly fantasy stuff |
| 00:09.50 | *** join/#utah RyanE (n=ryan@rberick.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 00:09.51 | ^Migs^ | Discworld and Wheel of Time |
| 00:14.15 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 00:26.07 | maquis | :) |
| 00:26.32 | findlay | :) |
| 00:27.26 | ^Migs^ | :) |
| 00:28.01 | sjansen | :( |
| 00:28.13 | sjansen | ~beat maquis |
| 00:28.16 | ibot | ACTION beats maquis with a wetfish |
| 00:28.35 | sjansen | ~punch findlay |
| 00:28.37 | ibot | ACTION hits findlay like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist |
| 00:28.53 | sjansen | ~bite ^Migs^ |
| 00:28.55 | ibot | ACTION takes a big bite out of ^Migs^'s jugular vein |
| 00:29.06 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@128.123.232.3) |
| 00:29.09 | maquis | hey! |
| 00:29.20 | findlay | is for horses! |
| 00:29.32 | maquis | ~hit findlay |
| 00:29.34 | ibot | ACTION kicks findlay. |
| 00:29.41 | maquis | ~lart sjansen |
| 00:29.59 | findlay | does windows only do netbios when the computer boots? |
| 00:33.19 | sjansen | findlay: the question doesn't make sense |
| 00:34.00 | *** join/#utah graphyx (n=mkling@24.144.28.224) |
| 00:34.19 | findlay | when does windows send out the netbios packets: only during boot or at regular intervals? |
| 00:34.29 | goozbach | after texas yesterday I'm flying through the states now |
| 00:34.44 | goozbach | findlay: all the freaking time |
| 00:34.51 | findlay | oh |
| 00:35.08 | sjansen | ~ticket goozbach |
| 00:35.10 | findlay | way too many windows boxen on this network |
| 00:35.27 | sjansen | yeah, windows is awfully chatty |
| 00:35.35 | graphyx | windows netbios is like the smell from a dirty diaper |
| 00:35.38 | sjansen | give me a nice, taciturn linux box any day |
| 00:35.49 | maquis | goozbach: how's it going? |
| 00:35.49 | findlay | polluting the network with their filthy broadcast packets |
| 00:39.15 | ^Migs^ | I got a massive fart forming |
| 00:41.03 | maquis | tmi |
| 00:42.23 | findlay | ~poke ^Migs^ |
| 00:42.24 | ibot | ACTION grabs a syringe |
| 00:49.10 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net) |
| 00:59.06 | spr | I finally did it! Frequency domain blurring! |
| 01:01.25 | *** join/#utah dilvie (n=dilvie@c-67-161-253-245.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 01:06.32 | maquis | spr: cool... what'd you do? |
| 01:10.09 | ^Migs^ | wtf, my wife tried to track down that Venezuelan girl, since she left a wrong phone number, so she called her friends and left messages, and now all her friends are calling me back wonder wtf is going on |
| 01:10.27 | ^Migs^ | *wondering |
| 01:10.45 | ^Migs^ | I'm not even answering the phone now |
| 01:11.06 | findlay | heh, it's like windows broadcast packets |
| 01:11.56 | spr | maquis, implementing an image blurring program that works in the frequency domain rather than spatial |
| 01:12.47 | findlay | spr: why is that important? |
| 01:13.17 | maquis | spr: interesting... |
| 01:13.35 | findlay | what can be done with it? |
| 01:13.37 | *** join/#utah amcnabb (n=amcnabb@c-67-169-251-185.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 01:13.40 | ^Migs^ | Photoshop needs an API |
| 01:14.00 | spr | findlay, blurring any image. I mean, I can just use the gimp, but this is for a class |
| 01:14.01 | ^Migs^ | no, let me rephrase that. Adobe needs to make a standalone Photoshop-like API |
| 01:14.05 | findlay | it's called gimpshop |
| 01:14.34 | ^Migs^ | so Photoshop filters could be used on web sites and stuff |
| 01:14.42 | ^Migs^ | unless they already can, and I'm just painfully ignorant |
| 01:15.36 | findlay | photoshop is old school if there are no APIs at all |
| 01:16.04 | ^Migs^ | you know what, I don't even know what I want |
| 01:16.11 | ^Migs^ | everything's fine just the way it is |
| 01:16.23 | findlay | you want the gimp |
| 01:17.39 | ^Migs^ | I know what the GIMP is |
| 01:17.52 | ^Migs^ | but I'm not talking about the GIMP. I'm talking about Photoshop filters in particular. |
| 01:18.10 | findlay | you want the gimp |
| 01:18.17 | ^Migs^ | holy crap |
| 01:18.23 | ^Migs^ | shut up |
| 01:18.24 | findlay | lol |
| 01:18.27 | ^Migs^ | I do NOT want the GIMP |
| 01:18.39 | ^Migs^ | the GIMP is awesome, but I happen to be talking about Photoshop |
| 01:20.14 | goozbach | ~gimp ^Migs^ |
| 01:20.27 | goozbach | travel is going well |
| 01:22.30 | findlay | the force is strong with this one |
| 01:22.36 | *** join/#utah ethical_ (n=TheDiff@adsl-66-122-73-12.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net) |
| 01:35.19 | ^Migs^ | I just had the most massive dump |
| 01:35.51 | ^Migs^ | it felt like it tore another hole. I hate that. |
| 01:48.38 | goozbach | WAHOO I reached Florida |
| 01:49.37 | findlay | while chatting on IRC on his trio too |
| 01:49.48 | maquis | yeah |
| 01:50.10 | goozbach | avereging 70 |
| 01:50.11 | *** join/#utah xbmodder_lappy (i=nobody@xbmodder.us) |
| 01:50.38 | goozbach | my dad has been toing the majority of the driving |
| 01:50.51 | xbmodder_lappy | Anyone here going to linux world expo in boston? |
| 01:51.04 | goozbach | I don't IRC and drive... |
| 01:51.09 | goozbach | anymore |
| 01:51.09 | maquis | goozbach: good |
| 01:52.01 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, I know someone who used to text message and drive |
| 01:52.12 | xbmodder_lappy | then they got into a minor accident... |
| 01:52.33 | goozbach | i used to IRC and drive |
| 01:52.47 | maquis | yim? |
| 01:52.51 | QBFreak | Yahoo |
| 01:52.54 | maquis | oh |
| 01:52.55 | xbmodder_lappy | yahoo instant |
| 01:53.48 | findlay | I can usually IRC and think at the same time, usually |
| 01:55.21 | goozbach | the other day I ws driving, writing slides for a presentation, And listening to a conference call |
| 01:55.23 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 01:55.26 | maquis | bad goo! not safe! |
| 01:55.31 | ^Migs^ | I can usually read a book and drive at the same time, too |
| 01:55.52 | ^Migs^ | it takes practice. The more you do it, the better you get at it. |
| 01:56.28 | maquis | still not safe |
| 01:56.46 | ^Migs^ | it's efficient |
| 01:56.58 | ^Migs^ | multitasking is common nowadays. I don't see the problem. |
| 01:57.36 | findlay | why do I always get mod points when I don't feel like moderating? |
| 01:58.03 | goozbach | till theire's a fifty car pileup |
| 01:58.37 | ^Migs^ | i think you underestimate how efficient I am |
| 02:00.27 | findlay | ~^Migs^ --version |
| 02:00.41 | findlay | nothing |
| 02:00.49 | maquis | i don't know about around here, but in large parts of seattle, they now have a policy where, if you're on a cell phone and you get in an accident, you're automatically at fault |
| 02:01.20 | xbmodder_lappy | If you could project the book on a HUD, that'd be cool. |
| 02:02.30 | xbmodder_lappy | I wan't a car with a nice HUD |
| 02:02.49 | ^Migs^ | I hope no one thinks I'm actually being serious |
| 02:02.56 | xbmodder_lappy | like a transperent screeen covering part of my windows... |
| 02:03.10 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, you'd probably be kinda messed up... |
| 02:24.58 | *** join/#utah graphy1 (n=mkling@24.144.28.224) |
| 02:37.18 | *** join/#utah EvilHerbivore (n=dave@c-67-161-208-210.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 02:37.59 | EvilHerbivore | Tigur, you slacker. |
| 02:39.30 | xbmodder_lappy | ? |
| 02:39.57 | findlay | . |
| 02:45.20 | xbmodder_lappy | Anyone wanna attempt to poison my DNS cache, I am at xbmodder.us |
| 02:45.36 | xbmodder_lappy | just don't screw up google, slashdot, digg, etc... |
| 02:45.39 | findlay | who is your registrar? |
| 02:45.52 | xbmodder_lappy | findlay, on my DNS server... |
| 02:46.12 | xbmodder_lappy | my DNS server is located at xbmodder.us, and I registered xbmodder.us with godaddy! |
| 02:55.39 | ^Migs^ | you know what cars should have? screens that show the other cars on the road and stuff, but it makes them all look like TIE fighters, and you're flying an X-Wing. |
| 02:58.31 | *** join/#utah TimRiker (n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker) |
| 02:58.31 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 02:58.40 | ^Migs^ | you can't tell me that's not a good idea |
| 02:59.21 | xbmodder_lappy | ... |
| 02:59.41 | xbmodder_lappy | how about replace them with pod racers.. |
| 02:59.48 | ^Migs^ | meh |
| 02:59.49 | xbmodder_lappy | Well, at least I want a pod racer |
| 02:59.50 | ^Migs^ | I guess |
| 03:00.03 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, new vs. ancient... |
| 03:00.19 | ^Migs^ | TIE fighters are classic |
| 03:00.23 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 03:00.33 | xbmodder_lappy | s/classic/ancient/ |
| 03:01.16 | findlay | who cares about pod racers and TIE fighters if you've got a light saber |
| 03:01.40 | xbmodder_lappy | What do you think about this as a cell phone prank: get a large VoIP account, setup asterisk, set up asterisk to call, say some junk for about 50 seconds, hangup... |
| 03:01.52 | xbmodder_lappy | and if the person doesn't pickup to it to their voicemail |
| 03:02.04 | xbmodder_lappy | it'd be 2-3 simultaneous calls... |
| 03:02.09 | xbmodder_lappy | so their cell phone is use less |
| 03:02.10 | findlay | why are you wanting to do that? |
| 03:02.21 | xbmodder_lappy | and they'd have about 1000 voicemail messages... |
| 03:02.32 | xbmodder_lappy | findlay, to screw around with my friends |
| 03:02.52 | xbmodder_lappy | He bought a Treo 650, but has no idea how to use it, short of klondike |
| 03:03.38 | xbmodder_lappy | and I am thinking if there are any downsides... |
| 03:03.47 | xbmodder_lappy | I am planning on doing it during the weekend |
| 03:03.50 | xbmodder_lappy | so no minutes are used |
| 03:12.23 | *** join/#utah mindjuju (n=Administ@216.20.238.225) |
| 03:12.26 | *** part/#utah mindjuju (n=Administ@216.20.238.225) |
| 03:14.45 | *** join/#utah RyanE_ (n=ryan@rberick.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 03:18.22 | *** join/#utah TacoJockey (n=linuxali@host-73.colo.spiretech.com) |
| 03:20.41 | findlay | TacoJockey: are you related to CmdrTaco? |
| 03:21.01 | TacoJockey | Nopers |
| 03:21.05 | TacoJockey | It's me linuxalien |
| 03:21.08 | TacoJockey | I got disconnected |
| 03:21.12 | TacoJockey | Gotta do the recover thing |
| 03:23.21 | *** join/#utah amcnabb (n=amcnabb@128.187.178.68) |
| 03:25.30 | linuxalien | Isn't CmdrTaco from slashdot? |
| 03:25.40 | findlay | yeah |
| 03:25.46 | linuxalien | Cool. |
| 03:28.54 | goozbach | xbmodder_lappy: just so you know its a felony to instagate a phonecall without the intent to communicate |
| 03:30.26 | emcnabb | xbmodder_lappy: you really are stupid |
| 03:30.59 | elg | goozbach: ooh, I can think of a few people to use that on |
| 03:31.07 | elg | does it count if they intend to talk but not to communicate? |
| 03:34.01 | elg | you never call me |
| 03:34.07 | elg | sometimes I wonder if you even know I exist |
| 03:34.23 | amcnabb | It's like Dr. Strangelove. |
| 03:34.34 | emcnabb | elg: who are you anyway? :-) |
| 03:34.50 | amcnabb | There's that scene where the President is talking on the phone to the leader of Russia. |
| 03:34.58 | amcnabb | It sounds just like a breakup. |
| 03:37.53 | *** join/#utah hatchmt (n=mhatch@63-230-29-6.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 03:39.13 | findlay | I've said way too many things on IRC that weren't meant to communicate and even more that were meant to communicate but probably didn't |
| 03:44.04 | tensai | I like M&Ms |
| 03:54.50 | ^Migs^ | anyone who takes IRC communication seriously is asking for trouble |
| 04:00.16 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 04:05.03 | *** join/#utah bigdog_ut (n=bigdog@207.135.132.13) |
| 04:17.03 | *** join/#utah tiwula (n=lane@204.14.21.69) |
| 04:18.45 | *** join/#utah Hhhhhhh (n=zic@lawn-199-77-213-31.lawn.gatech.edu) |
| 04:19.24 | Hhhhhhh | hello |
| 04:20.24 | maquis | tensai: i want some! |
| 04:20.39 | maquis | H* hello |
| 04:21.34 | tensai | maquis: I don't *have* any. merely a statement of fact. |
| 04:21.55 | maquis | tensai: well.. you realy shouldnt tease me like that! |
| 04:22.31 | tensai | I like wads and wads of cash |
| 04:23.16 | findlay | I have a light saber |
| 04:23.48 | findlay | and an X-wing starfighter |
| 04:23.53 | maquis | ooh |
| 04:23.56 | maquis | X-wing! |
| 04:24.46 | tensai | maquis: I'm sure you can find someone willing to trade |
| 04:25.04 | maquis | tensai: true... but i don't think my roommates have any |
| 04:25.13 | maquis | and everything else is too far away |
| 04:35.23 | Hhhhhhh | maquis, go to www.m&mshomedelivery.com |
| 04:36.56 | maquis | Hhhhhhh: can they get it here tonight? |
| 04:41.21 | Hhhhhhh | 5 min delivery 24/7/365 |
| 04:42.08 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:43.36 | ScytheBlade1 | The spammers of my wiki caught on |
| 04:43.40 | ScytheBlade1 | So now they're adding a message |
| 04:43.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ... but my copy+paste is broken. |
| 04:44.26 | ScytheBlade1 | "Excuse for my post but I do not have money to buy meal to my children. Forgive me please." |
| 04:45.04 | ethical | DUALSCCREEENNN |
| 04:46.14 | xbmodder_lappy | Kernel IP routing table |
| 04:46.14 | xbmodder_lappy | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 04:46.14 | xbmodder_lappy | 64.147.188.64 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.224 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 04:46.14 | xbmodder_lappy | 127.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 lo |
| 04:46.14 | xbmodder_lappy | 0.0.0.0 64.147.188.65 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 04:46.22 | xbmodder_lappy | what looks wrong to you ;-)? |
| 04:46.37 | Hhhhhhh | spaaaam |
| 04:46.43 | Hhhhhhh | flooood |
| 04:46.48 | ScytheBlade1 | http://dev.brantleyonline.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Ipblocklist <--- spammmmeeerrrssss |
| 04:46.57 | findlay | waaater |
| 04:48.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I wonder if those hosts are bots, and if so, if I could "fix" that |
| 04:52.23 | ethical | anyone gotten SVideo out to work on their laptops |
| 04:52.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Odd, two open ports |
| 04:52.49 | ScytheBlade1 | 1033 and 1501 |
| 04:52.54 | ScytheBlade1 | *5101 |
| 04:53.39 | *** part/#utah graphy1 (n=mkling@24.144.28.224) |
| 04:55.42 | ScytheBlade1 | looks like someone has netspy (trojan) on their windows box |
| 04:55.46 | ScytheBlade1 | running Y! messenget |
| 04:55.49 | ScytheBlade1 | *messenger |
| 05:07.06 | *** join/#utah ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1) |
| 05:10.01 | ethical | anyone have any idea what this xorg error means? |
| 05:10.11 | ethical | vm86 syscall() generated signal 4 |
| 05:10.18 | ethical | VBE initialization failed |
| 05:28.35 | *** join/#utah EvilHerbivore (n=dave@c-67-161-208-210.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 05:32.26 | mheath | Hey, anyone go to UVSC? |
| 05:32.56 | mheath | Do me a favor. Stop by your admissions department and inform them that my name is not "Michale T. Hbath" |
| 05:33.01 | ethical | Micheal Moore did |
| 05:33.04 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 05:33.08 | ethical | and Sean Hannity did |
| 05:36.28 | mheath | Nevermind. |
| 05:38.47 | mheath | " ......Ummm, I didn't realize until today how much I love Logan. He means so much to me, and I couldn't possibly let him go now. " |
| 05:42.16 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 05:42.23 | xbmodder_lappy | Who is that? |
| 05:44.24 | ethical | its obvious |
| 05:44.33 | ethical | mheath is infatuated with a girl who already has a boyfriend |
| 05:44.41 | xbmodder_lappy | Me too |
| 05:44.42 | *** join/#utah hatchmt (n=mhatch@63-230-29-6.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 05:45.03 | ^Migs^ | poor mheath |
| 05:45.16 | mheath | ethical: No. I'm infatuated with a girl who was dating a deadbeat she hasn't seen in 3 months but still considers her boyfriend |
| 05:45.19 | mheath | Who led me on for ages. |
| 05:47.00 | ethical | just kill him |
| 05:47.04 | ethical | that will solve all your problems |
| 05:47.12 | ethical | thats what they do on television |
| 05:49.24 | mheath | I don't know what to do... |
| 05:49.32 | mheath | I spent one of the most wonderful afternoons of my life with this girl |
| 05:49.37 | mheath | I go to work, and then come home to find this. |
| 05:51.35 | findlay | The Vicissitudes in the Life of Mheath. |
| 05:54.23 | findlay | boyfriends are a waste of time and puerile selfish emotion |
| 05:56.10 | findlay | though if one has any of that it may as well be wasted as anything |
| 05:56.40 | ethical | just be like screw it |
| 05:56.50 | mheath | man, I really don't want to discuss this anymore. and I particularly dont want some Linux geeks going over it with me logically |
| 05:56.56 | mheath | I hate relationships |
| 05:56.58 | ethical | hahaha |
| 05:57.18 | findlay | ~hahaha |
| 05:57.20 | ibot | rumour has it, hahaha is http://www.shacknews.com//screens.x/iotd//5/thumbs/bsodirony.jpg Win 98 Increased Dependability...NOT |
| 05:57.20 | ethical | i'm not an effing geek |
| 05:57.20 | mheath | I always convince myself that the next one is going to be better, because the girl always exhibits some attribute that I think makes her perfect. |
| 05:57.21 | brac | [Shacknews - Screenshots] |
| 05:57.28 | mheath | Screw that. |
| 05:57.41 | findlay | ~haha that |
| 05:57.43 | ibot | ACTION beats that about the head with the ha ha bat |
| 05:57.56 | ethical | well you're young and girls are still dumb at that age |
| 05:57.59 | ethical | some will always be |
| 05:58.20 | ethical | "omg i dont know what I want. I don't know who I like. lets just be friends" |
| 05:59.33 | mheath | OK, now I'm really done. I especially don't need you telling me that the girl who I'm desperately in love with is dumb. |
| 06:00.09 | ethical | are you sure you aren't a girl? |
| 06:00.19 | ethical | you are sensitive like one |
| 06:00.56 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 06:00.58 | ethical | cry me a river so I can engineer a bridge over it |
| 06:01.09 | xbmodder_lappy | wow |
| 06:01.16 | xbmodder_lappy | Thats like engineer romance... |
| 06:01.30 | ethical | thats putting your wussy emotions to use |
| 06:01.49 | mheath | ethical: Sorry. I'm just venting a bit. I just shared my first real kiss ever with this girl hours ago. I'm desperately in love with her, and when I last talked to her, I thought she was with him. |
| 06:01.54 | mheath | s/him/me |
| 06:02.08 | ethical | mheath: well where did you find that quote she put up? |
| 06:03.01 | mheath | Then I come home and find a short message from her telling me that she's NOT INTERESTED. |
| 06:03.16 | ethical | yeah |
| 06:03.18 | ethical | thats messed up |
| 06:03.46 | mheath | I'm done. I'm tired of talking about it. Time to wrap up my stupid tender bit. I'm just growing awfully tired of dealing with females. |
| 06:03.52 | ethical | we are just trying to point out that you aren't the only one who has experienced this |
| 06:03.55 | ethical | its a common occurance |
| 06:03.56 | mheath | Problem is, the more promise they show, the more I'm let down |
| 06:07.03 | ethical | you should eat a big steak |
| 06:07.09 | ethical | that always makes me feel better |
| 06:12.55 | *** join/#utah linuxalien (n=linuxali@c-24-2-85-20.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 06:13.42 | dilvie | hey hey hey |
| 06:13.49 | ethical | sup kid |
| 06:13.56 | dilvie | got my netlabel section off the ground |
| 06:13.58 | dilvie | finally |
| 06:14.00 | dilvie | http://www.knobtweakers.net/netlabel/ |
| 06:14.26 | ethical | sweetness |
| 06:14.27 | dilvie | and I went public with my political candidacy |
| 06:14.29 | dilvie | http://www.knobtweakers.net/2006/03/running-for-office.html |
| 06:14.30 | dilvie | yay |
| 06:15.33 | ethical | zdude |
| 06:15.35 | ethical | thats awesome |
| 06:15.40 | ethical | Represent! |
| 06:17.43 | dilvie | any word on the geek dinner this month? |
| 06:17.56 | dilvie | I guess I'll check the wiki |
| 06:18.50 | dilvie | hmmm |
| 06:18.52 | dilvie | March 2006 Event |
| 06:18.56 | dilvie | To be announced |
| 06:19.00 | ethical | never heard about it |
| 06:19.06 | dilvie | it was scheduled for the 23rd, and cancelled |
| 06:19.09 | ethical | dude if i lived in Utah i would totally vote for you |
| 06:19.15 | dilvie | no word on April's dinner yet. |
| 06:20.36 | dilvie | Thanks. =) |
| 06:23.01 | ethical | dilvie: so how do you write this music |
| 06:23.18 | ethical | like do you have a band, or do you just record it all yourself |
| 06:24.05 | dilvie | which music? |
| 06:24.27 | dilvie | all the stuff at dilvie.com is original, recorded all by myself (other than the remixes) |
| 06:25.33 | ethical | dilvie: what about the stuff you released on knobtweakers, is this your stuff/ |
| 06:26.08 | dilvie | no. Knobtweakers is an mp3 blog and netlabel I use to promote mostly other people's music |
| 06:26.30 | ethical | ah, okay |
| 06:29.48 | dilvie | hahaha |
| 06:29.55 | dilvie | I just heard a great quote. |
| 06:30.02 | ethical | bring it |
| 06:31.59 | *** join/#utah EvilHerbivore (n=dave@c-67-161-208-210.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 06:32.37 | dilvie | I'll edit it for the Mormon crowd. The great thing about this is that it was said by a very soft spoken English guy. It's about music that makes fun of the German Neo-Nazi fashion of the late 80's and early 90's. "The bottom line is, if you think that the politics of fascism is cool, you deserve to just f*!k off and get cancer in both eyeballs." |
| 06:32.38 | *** join/#utah SpecialK (n=Bob@c-24-2-73-75.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 06:33.20 | linuxalien | lol |
| 06:34.29 | dilvie | If you want to listen to the quote in it's original context, it's from this very inventive new MP3 blogger podcast: http://www.timyoung.net/contrast/ |
| 06:34.30 | brac | [contrast podcast] |
| 06:38.00 | dilvie | Mormon guys: Is f*!k any more bearable than the uncensored version? I don't know how this offended-by-a-word thing works. I never really understood it, myself. I was raised in a Mormon family, BTW. |
| 06:42.39 | *** join/#utah ethical_ (n=TheDiff@adsl-66-122-73-12.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net) |
| 06:43.29 | ethical_ | :( |
| 07:03.21 | ^Migs^ | um, this isn't the place to discuss this, really, but yes. Censoring typically creates the perception of a less offensive word, picture, or other medium. |
| 07:03.34 | ^Migs^ | that's hardly a "Mormon" thing. |
| 07:03.55 | ^Migs^ | plenty of people, LDS and otherwise, choose to refrain from cussing for precisely that reason. |
| 07:04.31 | ethical_ | what |
| 07:06.08 | ethical_ | i think i missed that boat |
| 07:06.10 | dilvie | Should I be worried that I just answered a phone that didn't ring? |
| 07:06.16 | dilvie | hehe |
| 07:06.48 | ^Migs^ | heh |
| 07:07.36 | dilvie | ^Migs^: I understand it isn't _just_ a Mormon thing, but I happen to know that there are Mormons hanging out here, and they are the ones who typically complain when somebody starts swearing in-channel. =) |
| 07:11.04 | ethical_ | yeah i'm pretty sure he phrased that without a negative connotation towards teh mormons |
| 07:13.25 | *** join/#utah RyanE (n=ryan@rberick.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 07:16.41 | ^Migs^ | I suppose it's possible, dilvie. I've personally never seen a Mormon complaining about cussing in a channel like this |
| 07:16.58 | ^Migs^ | perhaps if it were #lds or something, then yeah |
| 07:17.11 | ^Migs^ | but Mormons do not run this channel, so if they have a problem, they are free to leave |
| 07:17.25 | ethical_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.57 | dilvie | ^Migs^: Maybe you've overlooked it. =) |
| 07:18.07 | dilvie | ^Migs^: It happens from time to time. |
| 07:18.26 | ^Migs^ | well, it's nice of you to be considerate, at any rate |
| 07:18.51 | dilvie | I try to be. =) |
| 07:19.00 | ethical_ | i don't |
| 07:19.03 | ethical_ | ~ethical |
| 07:19.04 | ibot | [ethical] something you aren't |
| 07:19.07 | ^Migs^ | none of my friends are LDS, even though I am. Maybe I'm just used to it. |
| 07:19.12 | ^Migs^ | well, one is, but he's weird. |
| 07:19.22 | dilvie | cool. |
| 07:19.26 | ethical_ | we dont like the wierd ones much |
| 07:19.30 | dilvie | ^Migs^: Where do you live? |
| 07:19.36 | ^Migs^ | Roy |
| 07:19.45 | dilvie | Where is Roy? |
| 07:19.58 | ethical_ | its pronounced errroiii |
| 07:20.02 | ethical_ | or wwahhh |
| 07:20.05 | ^Migs^ | west of Ogden |
| 07:20.13 | dilvie | ah |
| 07:20.16 | ^Migs^ | where do you ilve? |
| 07:20.17 | ^Migs^ | *live |
| 07:20.20 | ^Migs^ | birthplace of Iomega? |
| 07:20.39 | dilvie | downtown Salt Lake City |
| 07:20.46 | ethical_ | ^Migs^: is Roy pronounced the american way or the French way? |
| 07:21.19 | dilvie | I'm not familiar with Roy. What type of town is it? |
| 07:22.20 | dilvie | I've spent some time in most of the surrounding cities. |
| 07:27.51 | ^Migs^ | I pronounce it by belching |
| 07:27.59 | ethical_ | well |
| 07:28.05 | ethical_ | i guess thats the american way |
| 07:28.13 | ^Migs^ | http://www.royutah.org/ |
| 07:28.15 | ^Migs^ | Roy is a great city |
| 07:28.15 | brac | [Offical Site of Roy City Utah----Roy City A GREAT Place to Live!] |
| 07:28.27 | ^Migs^ | frankly, I'm surprised you haven't even heard of it. It's quite large. |
| 07:28.28 | ethical_ | haha |
| 07:28.34 | ethical_ | its like Paso Robles |
| 07:28.38 | ethical_ | "almost paradise!" |
| 07:28.57 | ^Migs^ | it has a crapload of commerce |
| 07:29.00 | ^Migs^ | along with Riverdale, too |
| 07:29.12 | dilvie | w00t! |
| 07:29.14 | dilvie | Roy Days! |
| 07:29.17 | ^Migs^ | Roy Days ROCKS |
| 07:29.23 | dilvie | looks like a great party |
| 07:29.28 | ^Migs^ | I only moved to Roy last year, but I got to go to Roy Days last summer |
| 07:29.32 | ^Migs^ | it's SWEET |
| 07:29.40 | dilvie | cool. |
| 07:29.49 | ^Migs^ | it's a nonstop orgy of fun |
| 07:29.49 | dilvie | well, I've gotta run |
| 07:29.53 | dilvie | my wife just got home |
| 07:29.55 | dilvie | =) |
| 07:30.05 | ^Migs^ | cya |
| 07:30.47 | ethical_ | thats cute |
| 07:35.12 | ethical_ | why must Xorg mock me :( |
| 07:41.30 | *** part/#utah ^Migs^ (n=Stuff@71-37-66-168.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 08:06.38 | maquis | all right... |
| 08:06.41 | maquis | who stole my stapler? |
| 08:06.51 | *** join/#utah ethical (n=TheDiff@adsl-66-122-73-12.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net) |
| 08:24.01 | ethical | maquis: :( |
| 08:24.23 | ethical | i wan't even even connected to know what i am being blamed for :( |
| 08:24.33 | ethical | s/wan't/ wasn't |
| 08:26.38 | *** join/#utah RyanE_ (n=ryan@rberick.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 08:27.19 | maquis | ethical: my stapler! |
| 08:27.23 | maquis | you stole my stapler! :) |
| 08:27.27 | findlay | I hardly know nothing and what I don't know I hardly know what it is that I don't |
| 08:27.30 | ethical | red swingline/ |
| 08:27.35 | maquis | unless it was findlay |
| 08:27.40 | maquis | findlay: did you take my stapler? |
| 08:27.46 | ethical | findlay: you are making my head hurt |
| 08:27.46 | findlay | that was findlay's parting palatitude for the evening |
| 08:27.46 | maquis | ethical: nope |
| 08:27.58 | findlay | platitude |
| 08:27.59 | ethical | maquis: what distro do you use? |
| 08:28.07 | findlay | pithy parting platitude |
| 08:29.27 | findlay | still you can hardly be too grateful to have such a superior genius frequent your favorite IRC channel as myself |
| 08:29.30 | maquis | ethical: i've got debian on my server (which i'm not overly fond of) and freebsd on my laptop (which i like)... my favorite linux distro so far has been gentoo, but i'm lazy and don't feel like installing it :) |
| 08:29.37 | maquis | and i really like fbsd :) |
| 08:29.41 | ethical | haha |
| 08:29.52 | maquis | :) |
| 08:30.10 | maquis | i bounce a bit |
| 08:30.28 | ethical | i dont |
| 08:30.33 | ethical | i'm a steady hand |
| 08:30.36 | maquis | since august, on my laptop i've had ubuntu, debian, fedora and freebsd |
| 08:30.45 | maquis | before august, i had a different laptop, and it was gentoo |
| 08:30.49 | maquis | :) |
| 08:30.54 | ethical | thats almost as bad as installing gentoo one time |
| 08:31.07 | maquis | i wanted to try some new stuff... then i hated some of them |
| 08:31.15 | maquis | ubuntu and i didn't get along at all |
| 08:31.22 | ethical | yeah |
| 08:31.26 | ethical | i'm fighting ubuntu right now |
| 08:31.26 | maquis | anyway... what do you run? |
| 08:31.29 | maquis | ah |
| 08:31.34 | ethical | i have ubuntu on my laptop |
| 08:31.41 | maquis | i think i'm too much of a gentooer for ubuntu :) |
| 08:31.45 | ethical | because it autodetects hardware awesomely |
| 08:31.57 | ethical | and i've run gentoo on my desktop for about 3 years now |
| 08:32.00 | findlay | still I use fedora every now and again for sentimental reasons |
| 08:32.07 | ethical | and gentoo on my server too |
| 08:32.41 | ethical | i WANT gentoo on my laptop, but I'm dreading the thought of configuring wireless and APM and all that stuff |
| 08:32.50 | maquis | fun |
| 08:32.54 | ethical | plust compiling on a 1.2Ghz laptop would probably suck |
| 08:33.00 | ethical | fun is not the word |
| 08:33.10 | ethical | i've spent the past 3 days just trying to get SVideo out to work on my laptop |
| 08:33.19 | ethical | >: xorg |
| 08:33.34 | maquis | ick |
| 08:34.20 | ethical | what I realllllly want, is the autodetection & ease of install of ubuntu with portage & gentoos init system |
| 08:34.39 | ethical | and no gentoo use flags, those are silly |
| 08:34.55 | findlay | indeed, too many sills |
| 08:39.35 | ethical | :'( |
| 08:39.43 | ethical | maquis: you have class tomorrow? |
| 08:40.39 | maquis | ethical: yeah |
| 08:41.06 | ethical | weak |
| 08:41.13 | ethical | Cesar Chavez is a bomb holiday |
| 08:42.06 | maquis | ?? |
| 08:43.13 | ethical | Cesar Chavez Day is tomorrow |
| 08:43.19 | ethical | so I don't have class |
| 08:43.24 | maquis | ah |
| 08:51.07 | *** join/#utah ethical_ (n=TheDiff@adsl-66-122-73-12.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net) |
| 08:51.18 | ethical_ | >: |
| 08:51.22 | ethical_ | >: |
| 08:51.25 | ethical_ | >: |
| 08:53.08 | ethical_ | i dont know if i should be hating my router or freenode |
| 09:13.26 | moralorel | someone needs to massacre these idiots suing apple because iPods caused them 'hearing loss' |
| 09:32.37 | *** join/#utah moralore1 (n=TheDiff@adsl-66-122-73-12.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net) |
| 10:14.52 | *** join/#utah moralorel (n=TheDiff@adsl-66-122-73-12.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net) |
| 12:24.34 | *** join/#utah moralore1 (n=TheDiff@adsl-66-122-73-12.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net) |
| 12:38.33 | *** join/#utah dilvie (n=dilvie@c-67-161-253-245.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 13:04.48 | *** join/#utah moralorel (n=TheDiff@adsl-66-122-73-12.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net) |
| 13:12.36 | *** join/#utah hatchmt (n=mhatch@66.239.25.80.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 13:50.49 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net) |
| 14:06.17 | *** join/#utah RyanE (n=ryan@rberick.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 14:32.48 | *** join/#utah moralore1 (n=TheDiff@adsl-66-122-73-12.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net) |
| 14:35.39 | *** join/#utah ^Migs^ (i=Migs@205.122.50.21) |
| 14:50.00 | *** join/#utah RyanE_ (n=ryan@rberick.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 15:16.18 | *** join/#utah hatchmt (n=mhatch@66.239.25.80.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 15:19.58 | *** join/#utah hatchmt (n=mhatch@66.239.25.80.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 15:23.06 | ^Migs^ | I just made an itemized checklist of what I have left to do on a project I was supposed to have finished today, and I have much more to do than I thought |
| 15:23.22 | ^Migs^ | now I'm panicking |
| 15:24.46 | elg | ~shoot ^Migs^ |
| 15:24.48 | ibot | ACTION shoots ^Migs^ in the ear with a frozen turkey cannon! |
| 15:26.57 | ^Migs^ | ~wedgie elg |
| 15:26.59 | ibot | ACTION hangs elg from the flag pole by his underwear |
| 15:37.16 | *** join/#utah tiwula (n=lane@204.14.21.69) |
| 15:37.46 | ^Migs^ | well, maybe it's not that much, but my clients are going to flip |
| 15:39.25 | emcnabb | item #1: get off of IRC :-) |
| 15:40.45 | *** join/#utah phinux (n=phinux@iocane.cs.byu.edu) |
| 15:42.01 | ^Migs^ | I can't work on it now, I'm at work |
| 15:42.26 | ^Migs^ | anyone well-versed in PHP wanna help do some tasks? |
| 15:43.47 | ScytheBlade1 | <emcnabb> item #1: get off of IRC :-) <-- good advice |
| 15:43.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 15:44.04 | ^Migs^ | no it's not. I use IRC for work purposes |
| 15:44.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, then /part the non-required channels |
| 15:44.55 | ^Migs^ | you're missing the point. I'm not wasting time here, because I'm not able to work on the project in question anyway at this moment |
| 15:45.17 | ScytheBlade1 | That point was never stated ;) |
| 15:49.45 | ^Migs^ | <^Migs^> I can't work on it now, I'm at work |
| 15:52.14 | *** join/#utah sjansen (n=sjansen@adsl-70-252-153-170.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net) |
| 15:52.57 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: then don't complain about it |
| 15:53.06 | sjansen | I remember reading somewhere that use of CNAME should be avoided because of security issues. I didn't understand the reasoning at the time. Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 15:53.53 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 15:59.06 | ^Migs^ | actually, I was asking if anyone wanted to help out for some quick cash |
| 16:07.07 | harleypig | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/izilla.shtml?cpg=28H |
| 16:07.09 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: iZilla Media Monster] |
| 16:07.11 | harleypig | W00T! |
| 16:07.18 | harleypig | 2 TB storage |
| 16:07.25 | harleypig | only $800 |
| 16:07.28 | maquis | ^Migs^: i would, but i'm way behind on projects already, and shouldn't be on irc.... |
| 16:07.44 | harleypig | Can rip vinyl! |
| 16:08.10 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.12 | ibot | bugger off sod! |
| 16:08.43 | harleypig | only weighs 30 lbs. |
| 16:08.49 | sjansen | wow |
| 16:08.56 | elg | yikes |
| 16:09.11 | sjansen | I'm not a music nut, but that thing is so beautiful I almost want one. |
| 16:09.49 | elg | you're not a music nut? |
| 16:10.47 | sjansen | elg: there's a difference between liking nutty music and being a music nut |
| 16:10.59 | elg | oh, you meant you're not an audiophile. :) |
| 16:11.06 | ^Migs^ | crap |
| 16:11.08 | ^Migs^ | that iZilla is sweet |
| 16:11.13 | harleypig | missed this: 16 D batteries. |
| 16:11.16 | ^Migs^ | $800 isn't bad |
| 16:11.25 | elg | harleypig: and they probably last like 3 hours |
| 16:12.04 | harleypig | It burns too ... |
| 16:12.10 | harleypig | elg: heh |
| 16:13.14 | harleypig | oh ... wait ... april 1st is tomorrow... |
| 16:13.18 | ^Migs^ | how many MP3s would 2TB be? |
| 16:13.26 | sjansen | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/wec.shtml <-- that I _have_ to have |
| 16:13.28 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: Wireless Extension Cords] |
| 16:13.46 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 16:14.05 | elg | hey, it's no fair starting the april fools jokes before 00:00 UTC |
| 16:14.18 | elg | although I guess they did say tokyo in the description |
| 16:15.01 | harleypig | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/usbtanner.shtml?cpg=28H |
| 16:15.03 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: USB Desktop Tanning Center] |
| 16:15.19 | harleypig | Ok ... I think these are April Fools jokes. That sucks. I'd buy the iZilla if I had the money. |
| 16:16.27 | ^Migs^ | haha, you didn't know? |
| 16:16.42 | ^Migs^ | they do this every year |
| 16:16.56 | maquis | harleypig: not sure... most of them have a weird availability... the iZilla just says it's "in stock" |
| 16:16.59 | ^Migs^ | well, I was fooled by the izilla, too |
| 16:17.00 | maquis | :) |
| 16:17.05 | ^Migs^ | that's actually not too unrealistic |
| 16:17.23 | *** join/#utah gthornock (n=gthornoc@209.210.58.54) |
| 16:17.25 | ^Migs^ | I love the picture of that USB tanning center, though. Hilarious. |
| 16:17.50 | sjansen | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/screenedsphorb.shtml <-- /me wants |
| 16:17.52 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: The Screened Sphorb] |
| 16:17.54 | harleypig | ^Migs^: Yeah, I knew they do this, but the iZilla got me. |
| 16:19.32 | harleypig | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/buzzaire.shtml?cpg=28H |
| 16:19.34 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: Buzzaire - Metered Dose Caffeine Inhaler] |
| 16:19.41 | harleypig | I want this one. |
| 16:19.56 | harleypig | "One squeeze, one inhale, and you've just rushed 150mg of caffeine into your blood stream." |
| 16:19.59 | ^Migs^ | haha |
| 16:20.03 | phinux | 30 pounds on the iZilla. Probably weighs less than my backpack on average. |
| 16:20.25 | maquis | no kidding |
| 16:22.48 | harleypig | http://www.banterist.com/archivefiles/000325.html |
| 16:22.50 | brac | [Banterist - A Very Patient Damsel In Distress] |
| 16:23.01 | harleypig | Mentos chick has never seen her commercial. |
| 16:30.02 | elg | poor thing |
| 16:36.31 | *** join/#utah moralorel (n=TheDiff@adsl-66-122-73-12.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net) |
| 16:45.13 | *** join/#utah spr (n=spr@ramona.cs.byu.edu) |
| 16:45.36 | sjansen | ~pity elg |
| 16:45.38 | ibot | I pity da fool elg! |
| 16:48.16 | *** join/#utah hatchmt (n=mhatch@66.239.25.80.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 16:54.20 | *** join/#utah synic (n=synic@pdpc/supporter/student/synic) |
| 17:14.28 | *** join/#utah SpecialZ (n=mse@128.187.164.115) |
| 17:16.17 | *** join/#utah Robdor (n=rob@208.187.196.58) |
| 17:17.40 | *** join/#utah ECS (n=ECS@128.187.138.195) |
| 17:30.29 | *** join/#utah nick125 (n=nick@unaffiliated/nick125) |
| 17:37.15 | *** join/#utah hatchmt (n=mhatch@63-230-29-6.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 17:51.27 | *** join/#utah amcnabb (n=amcnabb@128.187.143.203) |
| 17:51.28 | sjansen | torriem++ |
| 17:53.02 | findlay | torriem hasn't been on here in forever |
| 17:53.22 | *** join/#utah linuxalien (n=linuxali@c-24-2-85-20.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 17:53.33 | emcnabb | yeah, I give him a hard time about it |
| 17:53.57 | findlay | more restraint and less dissipation than me I suppose |
| 18:07.14 | *** join/#utah fungus (n=fungus@firebat.aros.net) |
| 18:12.07 | harleypig | Hey ... this is a pretty cool idea: http://en.fon.com/ |
| 18:12.08 | brac | [FON: WiFi everywhere!] |
| 18:16.56 | Bradipo | Wow, looks like LNUX has really been on a roll lately: http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=LNUX&p=D&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p40037191039 |
| 18:16.57 | brac | [LNUX - SharpCharts 2 Beta 7 from StockCharts.com] |
| 18:18.16 | harleypig | Anyone familiar with kubuntu and wireless and willing to give me some help? |
| 18:36.27 | elg | harleypig: i'm familiar with ubuntu and wireless |
| 18:38.43 | harleypig | I'm trying to use kde's networking interface and it's failing. I've got the key and the ssid correct ... |
| 18:38.50 | harleypig | can you tell me what log file I might look at? |
| 18:39.02 | elg | watch syslog, and fire up iwevent and watch that too |
| 18:39.17 | elg | don't know about the kde part, but you could try verifying manually |
| 18:39.21 | elg | e.g. with iwconfig |
| 18:39.29 | elg | if that works, then it's probably a kde issue, eh? |
| 18:40.32 | harleypig | I'm not clear on the commands for iwconfig ... but I'll give that a shot. |
| 18:41.02 | elg | iwconfig wlan0 essid foo key badbeefdad |
| 18:41.09 | elg | ip link set wlan0 up |
| 18:41.20 | elg | (start your dhcp now, or set the address manually, whatever) |
| 18:44.01 | harleypig | iwevent doesn't record anything when trying to activiate the card but syslog is showing a lot of lines that look like: |
| 18:44.18 | harleypig | DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4 |
| 18:44.25 | harleypig | the last number changes |
| 18:48.17 | sjansen | Anyone here using unixshell.com for their hosting? |
| 18:49.46 | emcnabb | sjansen: Andrew and I just decided we're making the switch in a few weeks |
| 18:51.48 | dataw0lf | harleypig: it's looking for a DHCP server and not finding one. |
| 18:53.10 | *** part/#utah ECS (n=ECS@128.187.138.195) |
| 18:53.42 | harleypig | Yeah ... I just ran across KWifiManager and its seeing the netowrk, but there isn't enough signal strength. |
| 18:55.25 | sjansen | I don't want "shell access", I want a "real" system. |
| 18:55.46 | sjansen | Looks like you can even roll your own custom kernel on unixshell#. |
| 18:59.55 | sjansen | *sigh* |
| 19:06.17 | *** join/#utah RyanE (n=ryan@rberick.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 19:14.40 | elg | harleypig: iwlist scan is also helpful |
| 19:27.47 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 19:30.05 | moralorel | anyone know of software that can make a Gant Chart in linux? |
| 19:30.35 | *** join/#utah hatchmt (n=mhatch@66.239.25.80.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 19:31.44 | sjansen | MrProject |
| 19:31.57 | moralorel | is it awesome? |
| 19:32.19 | sjansen | Can anything involving a Gant chart be defined as awesome? |
| 19:34.50 | moralorel | touche sir |
| 19:36.59 | elg | ~rlart |
| 19:39.18 | moralorel | ~glorify portage |
| 19:39.34 | moralorel | :(, he should do that |
| 19:47.46 | *** join/#utah linuxalien (n=linuxali@host-73.colo.spiretech.com) |
| 19:48.37 | sjansen | ~ridicule portage |
| 19:48.38 | ibot | ACTION drops portage in a tank of pink paint and herring |
| 19:49.37 | moralorel | well portage was already purple |
| 19:49.37 | moralorel | so i guess that isnt that bad |
| 19:54.54 | *** join/#utah graphyx (n=mkling@12.174.37.165) |
| 19:55.21 | sjansen | http://www.cnet.com/4520-11524-6478472.html?tag=cnetfd.sd |
| 19:55.21 | graphyx | greeting from another state. |
| 19:55.21 | brac | [Worst tech of 2006 (so far) - CNET.com] |
| 19:55.21 | graphyx | take me to your leader!! |
| 20:23.40 | *** join/#utah levi (n=levi@66.239.25.2.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 20:26.08 | sjansen | ~lart the python language mess |
| 20:26.45 | levi | sjansen: Have you seen the Python movie? |
| 20:28.10 | sjansen | nope |
| 20:28.26 | levi | It's truly a something to behold. |
| 20:28.36 | levi | Er, scratch that stray 'a'. |
| 20:29.03 | tensai | with Dustin Hoffman starring as Guido |
| 20:29.36 | levi | It's got Guido as Guido. And ESR as a sleep-deprived zombie or something. |
| 20:29.47 | levi | And a python love story! |
| 20:31.28 | sjansen | URL? |
| 20:43.16 | findlay | zombies *and* a love story?! |
| 20:45.38 | ^Migs^ | we need more zombie love stories |
| 20:45.46 | ^Migs^ | we got another girl call about the room |
| 20:45.49 | ^Migs^ | *we had |
| 20:45.51 | ^Migs^ | FINALLY |
| 20:53.41 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I'm so awesome |
| 20:53.46 | moralorel | doubleslap! |
| 20:54.11 | moralorel | Pearl Jam - Ten is such a good album |
| 20:54.18 | moralorel | too bad most of their other onees were pretty weak |
| 20:54.29 | moralorel | s/onees/ones |
| 20:56.37 | *** part/#utah linuxalien (n=linuxali@host-73.colo.spiretech.com) |
| 21:03.11 | *** join/#utah dilvie_ (n=dilvie@c-67-161-253-245.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 21:03.35 | *** join/#utah dilvie__ (n=dilvie@c-67-161-253-245.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 21:03.56 | *** join/#utah dilvie__ (n=dilvie@c-67-161-253-245.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 21:16.32 | harleypig | AGHHH! I just found out that cedega doesn't support amd64 ... I'm stuck with this windows partition for the forseeable future! |
| 21:18.34 | sjansen | you can use it chroot'd |
| 21:18.49 | sjansen | ugly, but it's your fault for using gentoo |
| 21:22.02 | harleypig | sjansen: I'm not. I'm using kubuntu. I gave up this morning. |
| 21:22.29 | harleypig | You should read openclue.org/ut ... :> |
| 21:24.27 | levi | Do amd64s run faster in 64 bit mode? |
| 21:25.18 | harleypig | no, it's just the size of the word. |
| 21:26.07 | sjansen | in that case, your fault for using kubuntu |
| 21:26.54 | sjansen | there's already docs on the ubuntu site explaining how to use cedega chrooted on a 64bit ubuntu system |
| 21:27.32 | sjansen | frankly, though, after using 64bit linux for about a year I've decided it wasn't worth the hassle |
| 21:28.17 | emcnabb | harleypig: every morning sjansen would let us know his feelings about it |
| 21:28.24 | levi | Is there any advantage if you don't run any mega-huge address-space-busting processes? |
| 21:28.56 | sjansen | levi: not for most people, you're one of the few potential people that might actually gain an advantage |
| 21:29.28 | levi | And why's that? |
| 21:29.44 | sjansen | the only _good_ argument for 64bit linux on a _personal_ system I've seen so far was a certain lisp implementation that depended on lots of registers |
| 21:29.51 | sjansen | seeing as I'm not a lisp hacker... |
| 21:30.07 | dataw0lf | mmmm perpendicular drive |
| 21:30.28 | dataw0lf | using 64 bit Linux at this point in time is just a waste |
| 21:30.38 | dataw0lf | you have to run a 32 bit chroot for too many things |
| 21:31.39 | sjansen | you have to run a 32 bit chroot on distros that don't have multilib support |
| 21:31.53 | dataw0lf | the only current reasoning is if you want to do some personal 64 bit haxory. Which is fun. |
| 21:31.55 | levi | sjansen: Ahh, yes. Stupid x86 and its lack of registers. |
| 21:32.02 | sjansen | no need to chroot on fedora/suse, but you do have to for debian/ubuntu/gentoo |
| 21:32.31 | dataw0lf | sjansen: I don't run any multilib supported distros. |
| 21:32.53 | dataw0lf | except for RHEL and Fedora server side, which I haven't really had to delve into it at all. |
| 21:33.26 | sjansen | I don't regret buying a amd64, though. The biggest reason is so that I could tell students about the experience. I can now authoritatively tell them not to bother. |
| 21:33.40 | sjansen | s/is/was/ |
| 21:35.16 | levi | Even the new budget chips from AMD and Intel have the 64bit extensions, so it's now (or will soon be) not a question of whether to buy one or not, but whether to install in 64 bit mode or 32. |
| 21:35.23 | tensai | is the advantage for memory hog processes, or normal processes on systems with scads of memory, or both? |
| 21:38.25 | TheDiff | hahahahaha |
| 21:38.37 | TheDiff | our electric bill for the past two months is $527 |
| 21:38.43 | sjansen | tensai: both |
| 21:39.11 | ^Migs^ | wtf |
| 21:39.19 | sjansen | with 64bit addressing, a process can use more than 4GB of memory |
| 21:39.26 | ^Migs^ | oh, you don't mean your home electric bill, do you? |
| 21:39.31 | TheDiff | oh |
| 21:39.32 | TheDiff | yes i do |
| 21:39.36 | TheDiff | home electric bill |
| 21:39.36 | ^Migs^ | uh |
| 21:39.40 | ^Migs^ | why so much? |
| 21:39.44 | ^Migs^ | mine is usually only about $30 |
| 21:39.47 | TheDiff | 5 college guys |
| 21:39.56 | TheDiff | its usually not that much |
| 21:39.57 | ^Migs^ | do you just leave the computers on all the time? |
| 21:40.00 | dataw0lf | 52 dollars? I wish I could get away with that. |
| 21:40.06 | dataw0lf | mine's like 100 dollars every month |
| 21:40.07 | TheDiff | i dont know what the other roommates do |
| 21:40.25 | TheDiff | i know that 2 were rocking space heaters |
| 21:40.28 | TheDiff | those jerks |
| 21:40.32 | TheDiff | we have 2 refrigerators |
| 21:40.38 | tensai | dataw0lf: I think it says "527" |
| 21:40.46 | TheDiff | plus 2 of us have mini fridges in our rooms |
| 21:40.49 | dataw0lf | tensai: oh wow |
| 21:40.54 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 21:41.01 | dataw0lf | that is quite a bit |
| 21:41.10 | tensai | that's outrageous. mine is ~35/month. all my heating is gas, though. |
| 21:41.19 | TheDiff | yeah, we just got heat |
| 21:41.21 | TheDiff | but its gas |
| 21:41.21 | dataw0lf | my heating is electric which is why there's a spike |
| 21:41.26 | TheDiff | so i dont know why electricity is so much |
| 21:41.32 | TheDiff | and our dryer is gas too |
| 21:42.07 | TheDiff | i need a way to track the electricity use in each room |
| 21:42.14 | TheDiff | i know they have those wall outlet things that measure current |
| 21:42.15 | dataw0lf | gas dryers are such a pain. |
| 21:42.16 | *** join/#utah ^Migs^AWAY (i=Migs@205.122.50.21) |
| 21:42.20 | ^Migs^AWAY | my gas bill is the most expensive one |
| 21:44.24 | tensai | sjansen: so what's the benefit to normal processes on a large system then? |
| 21:44.48 | *** join/#utah hans (i=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net) |
| 21:44.54 | tensai | ~lart hans |
| 21:45.13 | TheDiff | hmm |
| 21:45.22 | TheDiff | apparently the electric company can change the rate they charge youe |
| 21:45.25 | TheDiff | whenever they want |
| 21:45.47 | sjansen | tensai: you can have lots of ram without the OS having to bend over backwards to take advantage of it |
| 21:45.51 | tensai | as long as they abide by PUC code, possibly |
| 21:46.11 | tensai | sjansen: so same benefit as the first, except for the kernel rather than a process |
| 21:47.30 | TheDiff | ~lart PG&E |
| 21:47.41 | TheDiff | sweet |
| 21:48.07 | TheDiff | okay |
| 21:48.11 | TheDiff | so my SVideo out |
| 21:48.13 | TheDiff | will work when i'm root |
| 21:48.15 | TheDiff | well |
| 21:48.20 | TheDiff | not root, because ubuntu doesnt have root |
| 21:48.24 | TheDiff | when i'm in "recovery mode' |
| 21:48.27 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 21:48.30 | TheDiff | but not when i'm a user |
| 21:48.40 | hans | ubuntu has root |
| 21:48.48 | hans | it just doesn't have a root password by default |
| 21:48.48 | TheDiff | they dont have a "root user" |
| 21:48.54 | hans | sure it does |
| 21:48.55 | hans | sudo su |
| 21:48.59 | hans | et voila, root |
| 21:49.04 | TheDiff | hmm |
| 21:49.10 | hans | sudo passwd |
| 21:49.12 | TheDiff | thats sloppy |
| 21:49.14 | hans | et voila, root with a password |
| 21:49.43 | tensai | pretty similar to how OSX is out of the box |
| 21:49.44 | hans | there's lots of debates about the merits of sudo vs root with a password, but I think the real idea is to have one fewer account/password for nebs to remember |
| 21:49.48 | hans | yup |
| 21:50.00 | hans | s/nebs/newbs/ |
| 21:50.09 | TheDiff | plus to avoid newbs from leaving a root term open |
| 21:50.13 | TheDiff | and owning their stuff with it |
| 21:50.21 | TheDiff | b/c they forgot they were root |
| 21:50.21 | hans | ~pwn TheDiff |
| 21:50.33 | TheDiff | muahaha |
| 21:50.40 | hans | ~own tensai |
| 21:50.47 | hans | stupid bot |
| 21:50.50 | tensai | ~sell hans |
| 21:50.51 | hans | can't even hack |
| 21:50.55 | hans | er, crack |
| 21:51.05 | tensai | ~smoke hans |
| 21:51.06 | ibot | ACTION smokes hans |
| 21:51.15 | hans | i am a phoenix |
| 21:51.49 | TheDiff | wow. |
| 21:51.52 | hans | o/~ baby, baby, baby, light my way |
| 21:52.06 | hans | so anyway, your svideo works as root but not normal? |
| 21:52.13 | hans | check the permissions on relevant file sin /dev |
| 21:52.13 | TheDiff | ~yes |
| 21:52.15 | ibot | You don't say! |
| 21:52.15 | TheDiff | kind of |
| 21:52.30 | TheDiff | i'm testing this sudo su |
| 21:52.33 | TheDiff | you speak of |
| 21:52.40 | TheDiff | i'm still trying to get clone working |
| 21:52.42 | hans | or does it work in recovery mode because of some kernel difference |
| 21:52.48 | hans | e.g. which modules are loaded |
| 21:53.30 | TheDiff | not too sure yet |
| 21:53.30 | hans | or even a different kernel |
| 21:53.30 | TheDiff | not a different kernel |
| 21:53.30 | hans | -rps rock |
| 21:53.30 | brac | paper! I win! |
| 21:54.23 | TheDiff | is there a limit as to what resolutions can be transmitted over svideo? |
| 21:54.43 | hans | from what i've read, yeah |
| 21:54.53 | hans | at least, to which TVs will respond |
| 21:54.56 | ^Migs^ | Migs out |
| 21:54.57 | *** part/#utah ^Migs^ (i=Migs@205.122.50.21) |
| 21:55.04 | TheDiff | so is it tv dependent |
| 21:55.07 | TheDiff | or protocol dependent |
| 21:55.24 | hans | dunno. most TVs have the same capability: NTSC (here in the US) |
| 21:55.41 | TheDiff | well i have a monitor that has SVideo in |
| 21:55.49 | tensai | NTSC: Never The Same Color |
| 21:55.49 | TheDiff | so i'm curious what its limitations are |
| 21:55.50 | hans | I'm just spouting what I've learned, I haven't ever actually done any of this |
| 21:56.09 | hans | as in computer monitor? maybe it could do whatever |
| 21:56.15 | hans | or maybe it only does NTSC over svideo |
| 21:56.18 | TheDiff | yeah, computer monitor |
| 21:56.24 | TheDiff | dell 2405fpw |
| 21:57.17 | hans | as long as you're trying to drive it a a frequency it supports, I don't see any danger in just trying it |
| 21:57.18 | levi | The advantage of S-Video is not resolution, but splitting the brightness and color signals so they're not carried on the same wire. |
| 21:57.25 | TheDiff | i get this error running it as a user |
| 21:57.34 | TheDiff | " No video BIOS modes for chosen depth" |
| 21:57.44 | TheDiff | "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration" |
| 21:57.54 | TheDiff | so like SVideo will work... |
| 21:57.58 | TheDiff | like i'm using it right now |
| 21:58.03 | TheDiff | but X won't output to SVideo |
| 21:58.15 | TheDiff | just the command line |
| 21:58.53 | hans | what kind of card is it? |
| 21:59.00 | TheDiff | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.06 | TheDiff | using the 855GM Intel cchipset |
| 21:59.10 | TheDiff | so i'm using the i810 drivers |
| 21:59.35 | TheDiff | okay and doing sudo su |
| 21:59.37 | TheDiff | to be root |
| 21:59.40 | TheDiff | and then startx |
| 21:59.41 | TheDiff | didnt work |
| 22:00.07 | TheDiff | complains with the same error |
| 22:01.36 | levi | SVideo is still only 480i. |
| 22:01.53 | TheDiff | so tahts its max resolution |
| 22:01.55 | hans | what's 480i? |
| 22:02.01 | levi | 480 interlaced |
| 22:02.02 | TheDiff | 1024x768? |
| 22:02.07 | TheDiff | no |
| 22:02.09 | TheDiff | 640x480 |
| 22:03.06 | levi | Yes, 640x480, with a 4:3 aspect ratio. |
| 22:03.55 | TheDiff | okay we'll i've got to go to a meeting, but i'll be back for more help later |
| 22:03.59 | TheDiff | thanks guys |
| 22:12.48 | *** join/#utah elg (n=fugalh@hfugal.NMSU.Edu) |
| 22:15.32 | *** join/#utah bigdog_ut (n=bigdog@207.135.132.13) |
| 22:30.31 | tensai | user: "my wireless sucks". us: "point your radio back at the tower". user: "yeah, that's better" |
| 22:32.57 | elg | hehe |
| 22:49.07 | *** join/#utah synic (n=synic@pdpc/supporter/student/synic) |
| 23:09.36 | *** join/#utah mheath (n=mheath@c-24-2-81-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:10.11 | *** join/#utah ctr_ (n=ctr@64-136-207-241-dhcp-kc.everestkc.net) |
| 23:11.48 | *** join/#utah TheDiff_ (n=TheDiff@adsl-66-122-73-12.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net) |
| 23:13.13 | levi | Man, I feel so blah today. I need some exercise. |
| 23:13.32 | ctr_ | check it out; i'm back |
| 23:13.35 | ctr_ | hi levi! |
| 23:13.45 | levi | Hi. |
| 23:14.30 | levi | Plus, I got chewed out by some guy who runs a project I was trying to contribute to for not investing enough time in it. :P |
| 23:14.39 | mheath | levi: join the club. I feel so blah today too |
| 23:14.43 | mheath | Perfect way of describing it. |
| 23:15.35 | findlay | try Schumann's first symphony, /usr/lib64/libexpat.so |
| 23:15.42 | findlay | what? |
| 23:15.50 | findlay | where did that come from? oh well |
| 23:15.51 | levi | Eh? |
| 23:16.16 | RyanE | findlay: I don't recommend you pipe that to your speakers, at least at full volume. |
| 23:16.37 | levi | I'm listening to José Gonzeález covering Joy Division's 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' |
| 23:16.43 | RyanE | but who knows, it *may* sound like Schumann. You never know. |
| 23:17.25 | mheath | Question |
| 23:17.34 | mheath | I have a floral arangement. 3 roses, baby breath, etc. |
| 23:17.38 | levi | findlay: Your new task is to create an algorithm that transforms /usr/lib64/libexpat.so to a reasonable approximation of Schumann's first symphony. |
| 23:17.40 | mheath | bought them from walmart |
| 23:17.49 | mheath | They have a plastic sleeve and a rubber band holding them together |
| 23:17.54 | findlay | the »Frühlings-Symphonie« |
| 23:18.00 | mheath | What should I do to present them to the recipient? |
| 23:18.10 | findlay | gnome-character-map sux0rs |
| 23:18.43 | levi | mheath: You mean how to dress them up a bit, or how to go about giving them? |
| 23:18.51 | RyanE | mheath: a red ribbon instead of the rubber band is a good start. |
| 23:18.58 | RyanE | a nice card would be a good addition. |
| 23:19.22 | mheath | RyanE: Not like that. Giving them to her for Prom. |
| 23:19.33 | mheath | levi: how to dress them up a bit. |
| 23:20.35 | RyanE | try asking in #florists then. :) How are we geeks supposed to know this? No one told me there'd be a test! |
| 23:20.50 | findlay | mheath: NO! don't go to prom!! cut your losses now before you spend another $500! |
| 23:21.05 | mheath | findlay: hehe |
| 23:21.09 | mheath | I'm actually not looking forward to it |
| 23:21.13 | mheath | But I think the girl might be |
| 23:21.20 | levi | A nice vase to put them in or nice tissue paper, maybe. I don't really know; I don't really dress up the flowers I give my wife that much. |
| 23:21.24 | mheath | and, heck, I need to go to at least one dance while I'm in school, right? |
| 23:21.30 | levi | And I didn't go to Prom. |
| 23:21.45 | mheath | Heh, walmart really IS cheap |
| 23:21.57 | levi | I never went to a dance with a date in high school. |
| 23:21.59 | mheath | $4 for a bouquet of 3 roses at Walmart |
| 23:22.18 | mheath | I bought a coursage (spelling? one of those wrist things..) at a florists |
| 23:22.21 | mheath | Tiny, and cost $20. |
| 23:22.55 | levi | This seems to be a departure from your extravagant dining and transportation plans. |
| 23:23.18 | mheath | I never had extravagent transporation plans. |
| 23:23.23 | RyanE | I think I went to 2 dances in HS. Junior Prom, and some girls-choice dance. |
| 23:23.34 | levi | I thought you were going to do the limo thing. |
| 23:23.37 | mheath | Dining plans, yes, but that fell away quickly. When I lost interest in the girl. |
| 23:23.52 | mheath | levi: No. I'm driving my dad's VW Passat. |
| 23:23.56 | RyanE | ah, to be young and fickle again... |
| 23:24.30 | mheath | Dinner should be nice |
| 23:24.36 | levi | Where are you going for dinner now? |
| 23:24.39 | mheath | I haven't had lamb in a long time. I'm looking forward to that |
| 23:24.48 | mheath | levi: A place called Gray Cliff Lodge. It's in Ogden Canyon. |
| 23:24.59 | RyanE | sounds nice. |
| 23:25.18 | emcnabb | mheath: I only went to one high school dance; it wasn't worth it |
| 23:25.34 | mheath | Meh, I'm really not looking forward to it |
| 23:25.40 | mheath | I asked this girl months ago, when I had a crush on her. |
| 23:26.20 | mheath | http://www.grayclifflodge.com/dinner_menu.html |
| 23:26.21 | brac | [Gray Cliff Lodge - Dinner Menu] |
| 23:26.31 | emcnabb | I went to my Jr year prom; I didn't go to my Sr year prom though (it was either that or go to England/Scotland/Wales) |
| 23:26.56 | emcnabb | don't think the girlfriend was happy about the choice |
| 23:27.08 | elg | emcnabb: i'm glad you made the right choice |
| 23:27.08 | RyanE | my Jr. Prom was fun, but the odd thing is that when I got married, my Jr. Prom picture was the last picture featured on the wedding video, even after pictures of me and my wife together. Lame. |
| 23:27.21 | emcnabb | RyanE: haha |
| 23:27.25 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 23:27.42 | elg | i'd choose britain over prom anyday |
| 23:27.56 | levi | I chose sitting at home over prom. |
| 23:28.28 | elg | i'd probably choose that too, in retrospect |
| 23:28.39 | elg | church dances were fun, where I grew up, but prom was booring |
| 23:29.08 | levi | Actually, I did agonize a bit over asking this girl I had a crush on, but I'm glad I didn't follow through with it. |
| 23:29.20 | emcnabb | it would have been more fun if I would have gotten plastered with everyone else and then gotten a hotel room, but that's not my style |
| 23:29.28 | RyanE | the worst one I did was the girls-choice dance. No interest in the girl + socially awkward time == sucky evening. |
| 23:29.31 | levi | I went to church dances too, and they were fun, but there were no dates involved. |
| 23:29.41 | emcnabb | RyanE: totally |
| 23:29.50 | elg | I think I went to 3 proms |
| 23:29.52 | maquis | -lart headaches |
| 23:30.03 | elg | and I didn't even go to highschool |
| 23:30.04 | emcnabb | elg was a mac daddy |
| 23:30.07 | levi | I had a pretty decent time at a BYU girls choice dance. |
| 23:30.13 | RyanE | church dances were much more fun in college than HS, too. |
| 23:30.50 | elg | ~dance with maquis |
| 23:30.51 | ibot | with maquis, dance with me! Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' Elive, stayin' Elive |
| 23:32.06 | levi | I wasn't really into the girl, and I don't think she was really into me, but I enjoyed dances just for the dancing. |
| 23:33.10 | levi | Tylenol? Ibuprofen is where it's at. |
| 23:33.45 | emcnabb | Ibuprofen? try morphine |
| 23:33.50 | maquis | emcnabb: haha |
| 23:34.12 | RyanE | I think the only dance I'm capable of is the Fish Slapping Dance. |
| 23:34.32 | levi | I never liked date dances or going to dances to meet people. I preferred to go with friends and enjoy dancing. I probably wouldn't have minded meeting people there, except that I never did. |
| 23:34.38 | emcnabb | I've only had it once (when I broke my back two years ago), but it was good |
| 23:34.43 | emcnabb | worked like a charm |
| 23:35.29 | levi | Except one time at some multi-stake youth dance where some girl from another state developed a crush on me and I had to break her poor little heart via snail-mail. |
| 23:35.32 | maquis | levi: do you prefer fast or slow songs at dances? |
| 23:36.17 | levi | maquis: Fast songs. Slow songs mean going to get a drink or wandering around looking for someone to dance with. |
| 23:36.50 | findlay | isn't dancing devil worship? |
| 23:36.52 | elg | i preferred slow songs |
| 23:37.03 | levi | Though the last few dances I went to had totally sucky fast songs, so they were pretty unsatisfying. |
| 23:37.08 | elg | unless there were no girls I wanted to dance with |
| 23:37.17 | elg | but that wasn't usually the case |
| 23:37.23 | elg | fast songs that were undanceable drove me mad |
| 23:37.39 | elg | get a dj that has a sense of rhythm, at least! |
| 23:37.43 | maquis | the last dance i went to (preference about a month ago) has some pretty good slow songs, and some reasonable fast songs... |
| 23:38.22 | elg | findlay: it's all about BPM and time signature |
| 23:38.34 | levi | I need more than a suitable beat to enjoy a fast song, though. |
| 23:39.26 | levi | The music has to do something for me, too. |
| 23:39.56 | emcnabb | what's everyone's favorite blogging software? |
| 23:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | vim |
| 23:40.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 23:40.11 | tensai | blog writing or blog reading? |
| 23:40.13 | emcnabb | writing |
| 23:40.24 | elg | emcnabb: I use blosxom, but I'm thinking of switching to typo soon |
| 23:40.33 | tensai | I use drupal and it works well enough not to change |
| 23:40.49 | levi | I use drupal, but I wouldn't recommend it for a single-user blog. |
| 23:40.56 | elg | i like that blosxom lets me edit text files in markdown |
| 23:40.59 | levi | Or for usage on a really old computer. |
| 23:41.09 | elg | yeah, drupal can be a bear |
| 23:41.11 | gthornock | I've been using Wordpress for about a year now. It's not bad. I thought about trying Typo, but I have yet to get Rails working with mod_fcgid in Apache 2. |
| 23:41.26 | levi | I use markdown with Drupal. |
| 23:41.41 | findlay | a beer? don't you mean it can be a root beer? |
| 23:41.45 | elg | gthornock: i finally kicked the bucket and set up lighttpd behind mod_proxy |
| 23:41.53 | elg | that works pretty well |
| 23:41.54 | levi | I wrote a Markdown implementation in Common Lisp to go with my blog software, but I haven't hooked the two up yet. :) |
| 23:42.42 | findlay | levi: can you just put them in enclosing paranthesis? |
| 23:42.43 | levi | (I have two mostly dormant blogs, one of which uses drupal and the other uses custom software) |
| 23:42.45 | gthornock | In any case, my blog isn't hosted on my server, and I doubt my hosting company has Rails installed. So I'll be sticking with Wordpress. |
| 23:42.47 | tensai | I tried out wordpress. it didn't work quite the way I wanted it to. I don't recall exactly what though. |
| 23:43.16 | emcnabb | thanks for the feedback; time to look into it a bit more |
| 23:43.25 | tensai | gthornock: write a ruby interpreter in php |
| 23:43.39 | levi | I would probably go with Typo if I wasn't in the middle of hacking my own Lisp one. |
| 23:45.12 | *** join/#utah linuxalien (n=linuxali@c-24-2-85-20.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:45.24 | tensai | ~curse hans |
| 23:45.26 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, hans ! |
| 23:45.54 | emcnabb | http://www.ojr.org/ojr/images/blog_software_comparison.cfm |
| 23:46.30 | Bradipo | tensai: That is one serious death wish. |
| 23:47.01 | Bradipo | I think I would rather not reincarnate if I had to come back as an XP admin... |
| 23:47.43 | maquis | Bradipo: it's better than coming back as an ME admin... |
| 23:47.56 | Bradipo | Is there such a thing as an ME admin? :-) |
| 23:48.11 | Bradipo | I thought the only ME admins were grandmas that got duped into buying it... |
| 23:48.16 | maquis | i'm sure there is some company trying to use ME for all their systems |
| 23:49.13 | tensai | maquis: not even drunk hillbillies are that dumb |
| 23:49.15 | levi | My old laptop came with ME preinstalled, and it was notoriously difficult to get anything else working on it. |
| 23:49.27 | maquis | tensai: do you read thedailywtf.com? |
| 23:49.33 | Bradipo | levi: Some viruses are too hard to completely remove from the compute.r |
| 23:49.38 | tensai | maquis: occasionally |
| 23:49.52 | maquis | tensai: that has assured me that there is *no* end to stupidity |
| 23:50.11 | tensai | maquis: you make a good point, but ME is *really* bad |
| 23:50.16 | elg | well, there's stupidity, and there's ME |
| 23:50.22 | *** join/#utah lukfugl (n=lukfugl@lukfugl.fttp.xmission.com) |
| 23:50.23 | maquis | tensai: :) |
| 23:50.26 | elg | -lart lukfugl |
| 23:50.38 | levi | maquis: Unfortunately, that doesn't fit into the meter of If You Could Hie to Kolob |
| 23:50.44 | lukfugl | -lart elg |
| 23:50.54 | elg | mmm, deep fried vaxen for dinner |
| 23:50.58 | maquis | levi: what doesn't? |
| 23:51.07 | maquis | oh |
| 23:51.12 | maquis | i get it |
| 23:51.17 | levi | There is no end to stupidity |
| 23:51.31 | levi | Too many syllables in stupidity. |
| 23:51.33 | lukfugl | anyone in here intimately familiar with SOAP::Lite? (perl) |
| 23:51.43 | findlay | is there such a thing as negative stupidity? |
| 23:51.52 | elg | i usede it once |
| 23:52.03 | findlay | ~lart SOAP |
| 23:52.05 | lukfugl | elg: providing or consuming a service? |
| 23:52.11 | tensai | I took a light shower this morning |
| 23:52.15 | elg | I don't remember. :) |
| 23:52.25 | tensai | using soap, even |
| 23:52.33 | *** part/#utah linuxalien (n=linuxali@c-24-2-85-20.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:52.52 | lukfugl | findlay: I agree, but it's about the only way I can make this other technology (which is the client) talk to anything outside itself |
| 23:54.58 | elg | -lart jay |
| 23:55.03 | elg | er, jayce. where is that punk? |
| 23:55.07 | elg | probably playing paintball |
| 23:55.29 | lukfugl | that's what I was wondering when I came in :) |
| 23:55.38 | findlay | ~paint Jayce^ |
| 23:55.40 | ibot | ACTION rains a tape stream of paintballs on Jayce^ |
| 23:55.47 | lukfugl | he's always "in" here, whether playing paintball or not |
| 23:57.25 | tensai | ~seen Jayce^ |
| 23:57.27 | ibot | jayce^ <n=Jayce_@pollux.northsky.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 1d 30m 29s ago, saying: 'we wantssss them'. |
| 23:58.20 | tensai | ~onjoin Jayce^ <action> drops a can of marbles on Jayce^ |
| 23:58.20 | ibot | tensai: ok |
| 23:58.49 | maquis | http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=462526&rl=1 |
| 23:59.08 | tensai | I once hit my sister in the head with a can of marbles. it was her fault for tripping my booby trap. |
| 23:59.44 | maquis | tensai: that's horrible... who was the trap supposed to catch? |
| 23:59.56 | tensai | maquis: I tried to get something like that set up w/ a professor at BYU. he was keen on the idea but it never got anywhere. |
