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| 00:38.41 | findlay | I want the power |
| 00:39.02 | findlay | like He Man or whoever he was |
| 00:39.24 | maquis|power | too bad |
| 00:40.46 | findlay | what if I become UUG president? You'll have to give me the power then |
| 00:41.26 | maquis|power | nah |
| 00:41.37 | maquis|power | uug president gets responsibilities... but no power |
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| 00:43.22 | ^Migs^ | the power is a matter of perspective. Presumably, UUG underlings will view you as having authority, even though the authority is imagined |
| 00:50.11 | ctr` | i want waffles |
| 00:50.15 | ctr` | let's hear it for waffles! |
| 00:50.19 | ctr` | come on everybody! |
| 00:50.21 | ctr` | sing it! |
| 00:50.31 | ctr` | waaaaaaffles!!!! are so deeeeelliiiiiiciousoousouoousssss |
| 00:58.08 | findlay | ~lart maquis|power |
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| 01:30.52 | Hhhhh | waaaafles |
| 01:30.55 | Hhhhh | gimme some |
| 01:31.17 | ctr` | yay! |
| 01:31.17 | Hhhhh | maquis|power = She-Ra? |
| 01:32.01 | ctr` | i think maquis|power is a hacker |
| 01:32.04 | ctr` | i can't prove it |
| 01:32.07 | ctr` | but I'm pretty sure she is |
| 01:34.51 | maquis|power | Hhhhh: nice |
| 01:35.24 | maquis|power | actually, this box is named amon-re, which is another one of the various names of Ra :) |
| 01:36.57 | JoshH | oh you think you're some kind of egyptologist now |
| 01:37.00 | JoshH | i see |
| 01:39.21 | ctr` | so now she's an egyptologist hacker |
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| 01:42.17 | findlay | ~rot13 epistigtytomologist hacker |
| 01:42.17 | ibot | rcvfgvtglgbzbybtvfg unpxre |
| 01:42.35 | findlay | thanks ibot |
| 01:42.52 | findlay | ~rot13 amon-re |
| 01:42.52 | ibot | nzba-er |
| 01:43.04 | findlay | I like nzba-er better |
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| 01:57.51 | ctr` | turns out my exgirlfriend hates my guts |
| 01:58.08 | ctr` | anyone find that surprising? |
| 02:04.08 | ctr` | and that's the answer I was looking for |
| 02:04.09 | ctr` | kbye |
| 02:05.24 | JoshH | i was too stunned for words |
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| 02:27.30 | findlay | ~rot13 exagirlfriend |
| 02:27.30 | ibot | rkntveysevraq |
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| 02:27.54 | findlay | someday I'm going to find the hidden meaning of the universe with that |
| 02:33.07 | findlay | ~gut hater |
| 02:44.28 | maquis|power | http://www.jibble.org/cookies.php |
| 02:44.56 | ctr` | findlay: the meaning of the universe isn't even worth lookin into |
| 02:44.58 | ctr` | trust me I know |
| 02:45.00 | ctr` | I know everything |
| 02:45.03 | ctr` | and it's not all thta great |
| 02:47.56 | findlay | nuh uh, I know everything |
| 02:48.04 | ethical | woo woooooo! |
| 02:49.37 | findlay | maquis is subliminally trying to beat us into submission of the superiority of her culinary excellence |
| 02:50.38 | ctr` | i can't cook |
| 02:50.51 | ethical | that website makes me cry for humanity |
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| 02:56.35 | xbmodder_lappy | I am coding an OSS VPS panel and would you like it to tell you how much upload+download you've used, and break down per IP? |
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| 03:11.49 | xbmodder_lappy | the dilvinator! |
| 03:16.39 | ctr` | http://www.houseofhack.org/images/wmi.png |
| 03:16.56 | ctr` | wmi-10 == <3 |
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| 03:43.30 | ctr | oh snap, check it, che che check it out now |
| 03:48.09 | xbmodder_lappy | who is kernelxxx? |
| 03:48.14 | xbmodder_lappy | smart sn |
| 03:50.37 | ctr | a friend of mine |
| 03:50.50 | ctr | obviously |
| 03:50.55 | ctr | what sorta answer are you looking for |
| 03:52.30 | xbmodder_lappy | like how long ago did he get that SN?" |
| 03:53.57 | ctr | I don't know... |
| 03:54.04 | ctr | why? |
| 03:58.44 | ethical | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:59.09 | ethical | ctr: you use irssi, good job |
| 04:01.52 | ctr | danke |
| 04:02.06 | ethical | sehr gut |
| 04:12.58 | ctr | ethical: just out of curiosity, is that an ibm you're on |
| 04:13.10 | ethical | no, its a fujitsu |
| 04:13.15 | ctr | ahh |
| 04:13.45 | ethical | who is watching lost tonight |
| 04:13.59 | ctr | not I said the fly |
| 04:14.09 | ethical | c'mon |
| 04:14.15 | ethical | you know you want to |
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| 04:18.02 | ctr | i am gonna watch movies |
| 04:18.07 | ctr | I've missed out for like the last two years |
| 04:18.10 | ctr | so it's time to catch up |
| 04:22.49 | ethical | haha |
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| 04:30.59 | ^Migs^ | there's a cool new Chinese buffet that opened in Riverdale. The Lucky Buffet. |
| 04:31.16 | ^Migs^ | I stuffed my face there tonight |
| 04:31.39 | ctr | anyone know why \r is recognized as eol in vim? |
| 04:31.48 | ctr | case in point: %s/,\ /\r/g |
| 04:31.54 | ctr | as opposed to \n as the replace |
| 04:32.02 | ctr | \n produces ^@ |
| 04:32.14 | ctr | yet posix standards designate \n as eol |
| 04:32.16 | ctr | am I wrong? |
| 04:32.21 | ctr | or is my vim syntax wrong? |
| 04:32.24 | ^Migs^ | I wish I knew regex |
| 04:32.42 | ctr | yeah its one of those things |
| 04:32.46 | ctr | you just can't escape it |
| 04:33.15 | ethical | overrated. |
| 04:33.16 | ^Migs^ | wtf, there was a total eclipse today |
| 04:33.22 | ethical | what?? |
| 04:33.28 | ^Migs^ | in the eastern hemisphere |
| 04:33.29 | ethical | yeah, its called clouds |
| 04:33.30 | ethical | and raining |
| 04:33.42 | ethical | there was a total eclipse all day today |
| 04:33.59 | ethical | ^Migs^: are there sweet pictures |
| 04:34.07 | ^Migs^ | probably |
| 04:34.17 | ^Migs^ | I'm just listening to the news |
| 04:34.24 | ethical | npr? |
| 04:35.19 | ^Migs^ | no, FOX |
| 04:35.23 | ^Migs^ | FOX13 |
| 04:36.05 | ethical | are you getting ready for Lost? |
| 04:36.36 | ^Migs^ | isn'ti t over now? |
| 04:36.46 | ^Migs^ | my coworker was all mad that I'm not a Lost watcher |
| 04:37.52 | ctr | anyone want some icecream? |
| 04:38.27 | ^Migs^ | the ice cream man never comes into my cul-de-sac. It pisses meo ff. |
| 04:38.29 | ^Migs^ | he drives right by. |
| 04:38.38 | xbmodder_lappy | sure |
| 04:38.53 | xbmodder_lappy | don't egg ice cream men! |
| 04:39.55 | ctr | xbmodder_lappy: it's some fruity ice cream with pastachio peanuts in it |
| 04:40.03 | ethical | gross |
| 04:40.15 | ethical | it better not be over |
| 04:40.19 | ethical | i thought it was on at 9 |
| 04:40.54 | ethical | yeah its 9pm in CA |
| 04:41.22 | ^Migs^ | well, this is #utah |
| 04:41.29 | ethical | well |
| 04:41.31 | ethical | you are... |
| 04:41.32 | ethical | utah |
| 04:41.34 | ethical | . |
| 04:41.35 | ^Migs^ | and we Utards don't like you Californians |
| 04:41.53 | ethical | why not? |
| 04:42.01 | ethical | its not like we ran you out of our state |
| 04:42.24 | ctr | ethical: who's california's gov. again? |
| 04:42.29 | ctr | oh that's right |
| 04:42.32 | ctr | arnold |
| 04:42.33 | ctr | eof |
| 04:42.41 | ethical | listen, i didnt vote for him |
| 04:42.44 | ctr | haha |
| 04:42.47 | ethical | ctr: who is your president again? |
| 04:42.47 | ctr | well if I can razz you |
| 04:42.47 | linuxalien | Arnold wants to pump you up |
| 04:42.48 | ethical | oh yeah |
| 04:42.49 | ctr | i will |
| 04:42.49 | ethical | bush |
| 04:42.51 | ethical | eof |
| 04:42.53 | ctr | hahah |
| 04:43.01 | ctr | he wants to PUMP ME UP |
| 04:43.11 | ethical | "don't be a girly man" |
| 04:43.19 | ethical | i hopes hes not in office when i graduate |
| 04:43.25 | ethical | i dont want his signature on my diploma |
| 04:43.37 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 04:43.37 | ctr | ethical: I'm just playing dude |
| 04:43.41 | ctr | I really don't care either way |
| 04:43.45 | ethical | i do |
| 04:43.46 | ctr | I haven't seen him do anything bad yet |
| 04:43.46 | ethical | :'( |
| 04:43.56 | ethical | thats because you aren't in CA |
| 04:43.56 | ctr | I think we should worry about bush |
| 04:44.01 | ctr | before we worry about arnold |
| 04:44.05 | ethical | haha |
| 04:44.44 | xbmodder_lappy | arnold does things like make video games harder to buy |
| 04:44.53 | ctr | pfft |
| 04:44.55 | ctr | that's a good thing |
| 04:45.04 | ctr | video games are for idle minds |
| 04:45.11 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 04:45.13 | ethical | no he does things like cater to big business and screws education |
| 04:45.13 | xbmodder_lappy | exactly! |
| 04:45.25 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah, that doo |
| 04:45.28 | xbmodder_lappy | s/doo/too |
| 04:45.29 | ctr | he screws education? |
| 04:45.31 | ctr | how so |
| 04:45.48 | ethical | he's been reducing educational funding in CA |
| 04:45.59 | ethical | and the CA public K-12 system already sucks |
| 04:46.16 | ethical | my tuition has gone up about $400 a quarter since i've been here |
| 04:46.25 | ethical | its more than doubled since my roommate has been here |
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| 04:52.47 | ctr | ouch |
| 04:53.25 | ^Migs^ | that's why you need to get a scholarship |
| 04:53.26 | ctr | ethical: i'd kick the trash out of him for ya but it just wouldn't play out that way even if I was armed |
| 04:53.30 | ctr | hahaha |
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| 04:53.34 | ctr | yeah lets turn this around on ethical |
| 04:53.43 | ctr | ethical: why didn't you stop hanging out with your loser friends |
| 04:53.49 | ctr | and start taking school seriously |
| 04:53.54 | ^Migs^ | maybe if you were a better student, you could've taken more classes and graduated by now |
| 04:54.05 | lars-ut | mdadm --detail /dev/md[0-5] | grep State |
| 04:54.51 | ScytheBlade1 | mdadm is a *very nice* tool |
| 04:54.55 | lars-ut | indeed |
| 04:55.01 | ScytheBlade1 | It beats the heck out of the previous software RAID setup stuff |
| 04:55.19 | lars-ut | it'd be nice if dmraid worked as well |
| 04:55.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Given time, I'm sure it will |
| 04:56.12 | lars-ut | but I feel more confident in all hardware or good 'ol /dev/md |
| 04:56.32 | ScytheBlade1 | mdadm is *really nice* |
| 04:56.44 | ScytheBlade1 | software RAID done right |
| 04:57.14 | lars-ut | I'm amazed at it - seems almost magical |
| 04:57.41 | lars-ut | I only started playing with mdadm in the last year |
| 04:58.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I've been playing with it for a bit longer |
| 04:58.14 | lars-ut | I just used it to build another server w/2 400GB SATA drives |
| 04:58.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Once I realized that I had to set the partition type to 0xfd, that made my life easier though ;) |
| 04:58.23 | lars-ut | :) |
| 04:58.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Took me a while before I realized what I had missed |
| 04:59.13 | lars-ut | Linux raid autodetect? what's that? |
| 04:59.26 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:59.27 | lars-ut | :) |
| 04:59.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Is that sarcasm or sincerity? ;) |
| 04:59.40 | ScytheBlade1 | If it's the latter.. I'm scared.. |
| 04:59.48 | ScytheBlade1 | and you're in for a shock ;) |
| 04:59.58 | lars-ut | Let's just say I screwed up a bit before I got it right... |
| 05:00.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I know the feeling :) |
| 05:00.22 | linuxalien | time to go home yay! |
| 05:01.10 | lars-ut | in this case anyway... |
| 05:01.41 | ctr | evil! |
| 05:02.04 | lars-ut | not if I have to take the drive offsite when it's done... |
| 05:02.10 | ctr | har har har, and if I have to resinstall gentoo an compile everything from source, then it's time being payed!!! |
| 05:02.23 | ctr | arrrr, the wonderful life of a pirate |
| 05:02.30 | lars-ut | what? |
| 05:02.31 | ScytheBlade1 | In all honesty, I use gentoo for two reasons |
| 05:02.34 | ScytheBlade1 | One: flexability |
| 05:02.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Two: ability to install it *anywhere* |
| 05:02.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Even when every other distro can't |
| 05:02.44 | ctr | i wasn't knocking gentoo |
| 05:02.51 | ctr | I like it |
| 05:02.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Agreed |
| 05:03.05 | ctr | but it's still linux, teeeheee |
| 05:03.15 | lars-ut | Is it talk like a pirate day already? |
| 05:03.19 | ctr | no |
| 05:03.22 | ctr | I don't think so |
| 05:03.27 | ctr | if it was, I failed it |
| 05:03.33 | ctr | I think that's sometime in august |
| 05:03.48 | lars-ut | ~google "talk like a pirate day" |
| 05:03.55 | ctr | september 19 |
| 05:04.02 | ctr | haha |
| 05:04.04 | ctr | i'm the bot now |
| 05:04.07 | ^Migs^ | that should be a paid holiday |
| 05:04.10 | ctr | agreed |
| 05:04.14 | ctr | i take work off |
| 05:04.16 | lars-ut | Migs: I agree |
| 05:04.24 | ^Migs^ | it makes a lot of sense |
| 05:06.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone used Zabbix before? |
| 05:06.56 | ctr | You like those lars-ut ? |
| 05:07.07 | lars-ut | aw yeah |
| 05:07.13 | ctr | I've found it very hard to get into any podcasts |
| 05:07.21 | ctr | i sorta like twit |
| 05:07.22 | ctr | sorta |
| 05:07.22 | lars-ut | ITC is an exception |
| 05:07.25 | ctr | yeah? |
| 05:07.33 | lars-ut | well produced |
| 05:07.33 | ctr | I haven't listened to but maybe three of em |
| 05:07.43 | ctr | yeah.. they are out of ziff davis, right? |
| 05:07.50 | lars-ut | good for roadtrips |
| 05:07.55 | lars-ut | not sure |
| 05:07.57 | ctr | ahh |
| 05:08.59 | lars-ut | ctr: listener-supported |
| 05:09.01 | lars-ut | http://www.itconversations.com/teamITC.html |
| 05:09.35 | lars-ut | Creative Commons license |
| 05:10.48 | ctr | weird |
| 05:10.59 | ctr | I could have sworn some guys from zd put that out |
| 05:11.04 | ctr | or hewlett packard |
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| 05:19.00 | lars-ut | It's done by volunteers, but Doug Kaye started it... he goes all the way back to Adam Curry |
| 05:19.31 | lars-ut | http://www.rds.com/blogs/doug/index.php/archives/2004/09/16/adam-and-daves-excellent-venture/ |
| 05:19.32 | brac | [Blogarithms » Adam and Dave’s Excellent Venture] |
| 05:23.25 | lars-ut | guess I should say Dave Winer |
| 05:24.26 | ctr | hmm |
| 05:31.14 | lars-ut | ~emulate gir |
| 05:31.16 | ibot | must obey the taco man! |
| 05:31.48 | ctr | ~emulate ctr |
| 05:31.56 | ctr | pwnt |
| 05:32.02 | lars-ut-away | ~literal gir |
| 05:32.04 | ibot | "gir" is "a very spiffy robot from Invader Zim. Perhaps you meant 'emulate gir'." |
| 05:32.10 | lars-ut-away | ~literal emulate gir |
| 05:32.12 | ibot | "emulate gir" is "<reply>where's my moose?||<reply>must obey the taco man!||<reply>dooom doooom doom||<reply>i need tacos! i need tacos or i'll explode. that happens to me sometimes.||<reply>you SHALL not pass! .. he went that way.||<reply>to make room for the TUNA!||<reply>yay!||<reply>do a little dance!||<reply>my walnuts!||<reply>aww, my bees..." |
| 05:32.38 | ctr | hmm |
| 05:34.34 | maquis | it's great sometimes, but horrid other times |
| 05:35.08 | ctr | i burnt the bisquits |
| 05:35.14 | ctr | not bad |
| 05:35.18 | ctr | but enough to ruin |
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| 05:43.58 | ^Migs^ | I hate it when stuff burns |
| 05:44.02 | ^Migs^ | well, at least when I plan on eating it |
| 05:45.32 | ctr | yeah man |
| 05:45.39 | ctr | i made ten of them |
| 05:45.40 | ctr | all of them were burnt |
| 05:45.44 | ctr | but it was like |
| 05:45.46 | ^Migs^ | that sucks |
| 05:45.48 | ctr | well I spent time on this |
| 05:45.49 | ctr | and money |
| 05:45.52 | ctr | i am going to eat these |
| 05:45.54 | ctr | like it or not |
| 05:45.55 | ctr | and guess what? |
| 05:45.56 | ^Migs^ | well yeah, of course |
| 05:45.58 | ctr | i hated it |
| 05:46.01 | ctr | but it's principle |
| 05:46.04 | ^Migs^ | they were that bad even burnt? |
| 05:46.08 | ctr | well |
| 05:46.10 | ctr | the top is ok |
| 05:46.20 | maquis | 10 minutes in, i decided to look in on it |
| 05:46.21 | ctr | but the bottom was black |
| 05:46.23 | findlay | maquis burned debian? |
| 05:46.36 | maquis | and discovered that the entire oven and stove were smoking |
| 05:46.40 | ctr | oh snap |
| 05:46.44 | findlay | the smoke came out? |
| 05:46.47 | ctr | did you get that all fixed? |
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| 05:46.58 | tensai | ooh, it's never good when the smoke gets out |
| 05:47.01 | findlay | maquis: you got the smoke to come out of debian? |
| 05:47.16 | maquis | the smoke is a known issue with our oven currently |
| 05:47.32 | findlay | but you have enough to last it some more? |
| 05:47.39 | maquis | just... a temporarily forgotten known issue |
| 05:47.50 | maquis | i'm sure we have *plenty* to last for quite a while |
| 05:47.58 | maquis | we're currently trying to encourage the smoke to leave the apartment |
| 05:48.12 | ctr | what do you use to motivate it |
| 05:48.13 | findlay | won't that make your apartment not work? |
| 05:48.46 | maquis | ctr: an open door, the prospect of freedom... |
| 05:48.46 | maquis | etc |
| 05:48.55 | ctr | yeah, it's the life |
| 05:48.59 | ctr | I'd be on that in a heart beat |
| 05:49.06 | ctr | if i were smoke, and had a heart |
| 05:49.16 | maquis | findlay: last i checked, apartments were some of the few things that don't actually run on smoke |
| 05:49.34 | findlay | really? wow |
| 05:49.58 | maquis | findlay: yup |
| 05:51.35 | ctr | I sorta want to sleep |
| 05:51.40 | ctr | but I know what will happen if I do |
| 05:51.52 | ctr | I'll wake up at 7, rested and ready for a productive day |
| 05:51.55 | ctr | and that thought kills me |
| 05:52.23 | maquis | ctr: and if you don't sleep... |
| 05:52.36 | maquis | you'll still be up at 7, tired and not ready for a productive day? |
| 05:53.09 | ctr | yeah |
| 05:53.28 | ctr | i usually don't manage more than four or five hours a night |
| 05:53.32 | ctr | or morning rather |
| 05:53.50 | ctr | so if I really went to sleep right now |
| 05:53.53 | ctr | i'd wake up at four |
| 06:03.27 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 06:05.39 | ctr | HI |
| 06:05.47 | ctr | ahh |
| 06:05.55 | ctr | caps |
| 06:07.18 | xbmodder_lappy | Do any of you guys have _good_ nice looking resumes, that you wouldn't mind me using as an example |
| 06:09.05 | ^Migs^ | are you having problems making nice resumes? |
| 06:09.15 | xbmodder_lappy | Yeah... |
| 06:09.37 | ^Migs^ | keep it short and consistent. When a hirer is reviewing lots of resumes, they usually just quickly scan over and filter out the ones that don't look good. Appearance of the resume counts. |
| 06:09.45 | ^Migs^ | Try using bullets instead of sentences. |
| 06:09.59 | ^Migs^ | and put plenty of space between the lines (not too much) |
| 06:10.03 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah. |
| 06:10.17 | xbmodder_lappy | I do the bullet thing, but I am not 100% what originizational method to use |
| 06:10.39 | ^Migs^ | depends on the company |
| 06:11.15 | ^Migs^ | usually I'd put contact info at the top center, then an overview of me, then education, then experience |
| 06:11.21 | ^Migs^ | preferrably all on one page |
| 06:14.25 | findlay | xbmodder_lappy: use the LaTeX resume style |
| 06:14.41 | findlay | can't be any more geeky than that |
| 06:15.32 | ctr | xbmodder_lappy: houseofhack.org/resume/ |
| 06:15.43 | xbmodder_lappy | ctr, Sweet! |
| 06:15.57 | xbmodder_lappy | how'd you make that matrix |
| 06:15.58 | findlay | LaTeX is pretty easy to learn |
| 06:16.55 | ctr | all javascript |
| 06:32.52 | ^Migs^ | that's a good idea |
| 06:32.58 | ^Migs^ | especially if you're appyling for a web-related job |
| 06:33.07 | ^Migs^ | just put it online and put a link on your hardcopy resume |
| 06:33.45 | ^Migs^ | you should probably fix the markup errors, though |
| 06:34.09 | ctr | markup errors? |
| 06:35.05 | ^Migs^ | well, if you still use the resume |
| 06:35.29 | ctr | where are the errors |
| 06:35.39 | ^Migs^ | http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhouseofhack.org%2Fresume%2F and http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhouseofhack.org%2Fresume%2Fmatrix.php |
| 06:36.15 | ctr | oh |
| 06:36.16 | ctr | pfft |
| 06:36.19 | ctr | i could care less |
| 06:36.34 | ctr | i use the resume every now and then |
| 06:36.36 | ctr | and yeah I do just that |
| 06:36.42 | ctr | link it on the hard copy |
| 06:36.42 | ctr | though |
| 06:36.45 | ctr | I haven't used a hardcopy in ages |
| 06:36.59 | ctr | i haven't really applied for a many positions though |
| 06:44.31 | mheath | By the way, does anyone know a tool on Windows thats good for opening extremely large (150+ MB) files? |
| 06:45.38 | findlay | vim |
| 06:46.14 | spr | text file I assume? |
| 06:46.49 | findlay | ed |
| 06:46.53 | findlay | heh |
| 06:46.53 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, What sort of file? |
| 06:48.52 | findlay | it's got to be the bad sort of file |
| 06:49.54 | mheath | Yeah. :P |
| 06:51.08 | mheath | Its an apache error log file. |
| 06:52.41 | ctr | haha |
| 06:52.57 | ctr | i use a tool called openbsd |
| 06:53.56 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 06:55.59 | mheath | Heh, our school installed apache+mysql on all the comps in this one lab |
| 06:56.07 | mheath | For the web dev students to have a test bed |
| 06:56.17 | mheath | Apache doesnt work, and theirs a massive amount of hard disk activity |
| 06:56.24 | mheath | it stumps them |
| 06:56.37 | mheath | I take one look at it and realize the apache error log is growing by kilobytes per second |
| 06:57.43 | spr | mheath, wait, I forget, are you in high school still? |
| 06:57.55 | mheath | yes. |
| 06:57.56 | spr | man, my school was dang lame for computer stuff. |
| 06:58.03 | maquis | mine too |
| 06:58.15 | spr | we taught pascal in our programming class |
| 06:58.21 | spr | (which is why I never took it) |
| 06:58.22 | maquis | ours taught vb |
| 06:58.33 | spr | mheath, which school are you at? |
| 06:58.41 | maquis | that was my first programming experience... |
| 06:58.42 | mheath | Bonneville High School. |
| 06:59.13 | spr | cool. I wonder if the other schools here are so nifty. |
| 06:59.46 | mheath | It's not 'nifty'. |
| 06:59.51 | mheath | Our computer techs are moron |
| 06:59.53 | mheath | *morons |
| 07:00.03 | mheath | They managed to make it so these machines literally took up to 20 minutes to login |
| 07:00.12 | mheath | They botched (horribly) a vanilla Apache install |
| 07:00.35 | mheath | When creating a new disk image for the lab, they accidentally used obsolete (by 3 or 4 versions) copies of a bunch of programs we nee |
| 07:00.38 | mheath | *need |
| 07:06.27 | xbmodder_lappy | well, using RHEL with kickstart is something they should of done |
| 07:09.44 | findlay | spr: very doubtful |
| 07:10.41 | findlay | Utah is a pretty loyal M$ propaganda consumer, especially as far as government and education goes |
| 07:11.37 | ethical | ^Migs^: i've already got enough scholarships, thank you |
| 07:11.39 | findlay | mac too, but that's not becaause Apple isn't as Evil as MS but rather from the propaganda |
| 07:11.54 | ethical | and i'm an awesome student, thats why i'm staying here as long as i possibly can |
| 07:11.57 | ethical | haha |
| 07:12.04 | xbmodder_lappy | Is there any way to make iptables -L -v -n nicer looking? |
| 07:12.15 | xbmodder_lappy | Well, more parsable? |
| 07:12.40 | findlay | xbmodder_lappy: parse it before you parse it? |
| 07:12.46 | findlay | (: |
| 07:13.40 | ctr | night guys |
| 07:18.00 | findlay | Mozart's 38th symphonie is excellent |
| 07:18.26 | *** join/#utah fishyfire (n=fishyfir@158.91.203.5) |
| 07:18.48 | findlay | almost as good as 25 |
| 07:20.24 | ^Migs^ | findlay: I think you're right about Utah |
| 07:20.33 | ^Migs^ | Utah and MS I mean |
| 07:20.40 | findlay | of course. I'm always right |
| 07:20.44 | findlay | (: |
| 07:21.05 | ethical | but... ^Migs^ says hes always right |
| 07:21.17 | ethical | if you guys are both always right |
| 07:21.21 | ethical | and contradict |
| 07:21.24 | ethical | what then/ |
| 07:21.31 | findlay | you know, you're also right |
| 07:22.01 | findlay | I still can't believe the state blew $20 million on diebold garbage |
| 07:22.54 | findlay | way to squander public money *and* disenfranchise voters |
| 07:23.21 | findlay | still the same propaganda consumption |
| 07:24.50 | findlay | I went to one of the protests at the capitol. The lt governer's office was arrogant enough not to even make an appearance. They reluctantly staged "public input" into the process while secretely making deals with diebold |
| 07:25.36 | findlay | and all of this happened during and after all the fallout of diebold nationwide |
| 07:26.32 | findlay | it's hard to restrain myself against accusing them of being morons |
| 07:26.54 | ctr_zZz | i <3 mormons |
| 07:27.26 | findlay | ctr_zZz: you're supposed to be in bed |
| 07:28.13 | ctr_zZz | i am :( |
| 07:28.22 | ctr_zZz | i just can't bring myself to close the computer |
| 07:28.38 | ctr_zZz | it's an addiction and I'll be the first to admit it |
| 07:29.13 | findlay | goozbach, or perhaps maquis will be willing to set up an irc.freenode.net/#utah ban for you (: |
| 07:29.32 | ctr_zZz | kay, I'm leaving ... |
| 07:29.49 | ^Migs^ | me too, cya |
| 07:30.45 | fishyfire | dumb question if anyone is still around |
| 07:31.18 | ctr_zZz | is it smart if no one is around? |
| 07:31.31 | ethical | haha |
| 07:31.31 | ctr_zZz | just kidding findlay, he he |
| 07:31.34 | findlay | not necessarily |
| 07:31.37 | ethical | thats funny to me |
| 07:31.57 | ethical | ctr_zZz: man they really want to ban you dont they |
| 07:32.00 | findlay | look at the logic of the statement a little more closely |
| 07:32.21 | ctr_zZz | ethical: yeah, there's not many people here that like me from what I've been told |
| 07:32.22 | fishyfire | i am trying to update java on my machine, i uninstalled the old, and installed the new |
| 07:32.36 | fishyfire | and javac program.java works |
| 07:32.38 | ethical | they told you to your face? |
| 07:32.46 | findlay | or to your nick? |
| 07:32.49 | ctr_zZz | not to my face |
| 07:32.52 | ctr_zZz | but to my nick |
| 07:32.57 | ctr_zZz | several people have told me so |
| 07:32.57 | ethical | same thing in irc world |
| 07:33.01 | fishyfire | but when i type java program it has the wrong path |
| 07:33.07 | fishyfire | it has the old path |
| 07:33.09 | findlay | fishyfire: what distro? |
| 07:33.13 | ethical | i thought mormons were supposed to be loving |
| 07:33.24 | findlay | mormons? what's that? |
| 07:33.35 | ethical | common disease |
| 07:33.36 | TheTiGuR | Loving in a mean kinda way |
| 07:33.46 | fishyfire | mandriva |
| 07:33.49 | ethical | its like the cold really |
| 07:33.51 | ethical | no cure |
| 07:34.07 | ctr_zZz | ethical: oh they'd 'love' to have me leave I'm sure |
| 07:34.20 | ethical | once a ute always a ute |
| 07:34.25 | findlay | fishyfire: you downloaded two different versions of java from sun.com? |
| 07:34.26 | ethical | they can't abandon their kind |
| 07:34.36 | fishyfire | i had the 1.4.2 |
| 07:34.42 | findlay | ethical: what are you talking about? |
| 07:35.03 | fishyfire | and i uninstalled it and installed the 1.5.0_05 |
| 07:35.05 | ctr_zZz | findlay: i'm from utah |
| 07:35.12 | ctr_zZz | which makes me a ute |
| 07:35.13 | ctr_zZz | which means |
| 07:35.17 | fishyfire | i have the jre and the jdk |
| 07:35.18 | ctr_zZz | they can't abandon me |
| 07:35.23 | ctr_zZz | because this is #utah |
| 07:35.41 | ethical | findlay: i'm talking about family, baby |
| 07:35.50 | findlay | (: |
| 07:36.08 | ethical | does anyone know what DPMS stands for |
| 07:36.11 | findlay | fishyfire: have you tried 'which java'? |
| 07:36.13 | ethical | in the context of xorg.conf |
| 07:36.16 | findlay | ~dpms |
| 07:36.19 | ibot | methinks dpms is know as VESA Power Saving or Energy Star. In X4.0.X add Option"DPMS" "on" to config monitor setting. After that it can be configured by using 'xset dpms <standby-sec> <suspend-sec> <off-sec>' or config file options (ServerFlag section). |
| 07:36.27 | ethical | wow |
| 07:36.33 | ethical | that is the hottest thing i've seen in a while |
| 07:36.38 | fishyfire | which: no java in (/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin/:/usr/games:/usr/lib/jre-1.4.2_07/bin:/home/fishyfire/bin) |
| 07:36.40 | ethical | ibot: you are so hot |
| 07:36.41 | ibot | ethical: I think you lost me on that one |
| 07:36.45 | findlay | ibot knows lots of things |
| 07:36.47 | ethical | ibot: you are hot |
| 07:36.49 | ibot | ethical: what are you talking about? |
| 07:36.57 | ethical | ibot: :( |
| 07:36.58 | ibot | [(] feeling blue |
| 07:37.00 | ctr_zZz | ibot: you look pretty |
| 07:37.02 | ethical | ibot: let me love you |
| 07:37.08 | findlay | fishyfire: so what's your qestion again? |
| 07:37.23 | ethical | ibot: c'mon gurl! |
| 07:37.40 | fishyfire | how do i fix it so instead of the 1.4.2 in the above stuff i just posted, it's 1.5.0_05 |
| 07:37.46 | ethical | robots won't even talk to me |
| 07:37.54 | ethical | ibot: you should never say yes when you really mean no! |
| 07:37.56 | fishyfire | i tried typing in the export path stuff |
| 07:38.10 | fishyfire | but to no avail |
| 07:38.17 | findlay | fishyfire: do you know where the 1.5.0_05 version installed? |
| 07:38.28 | fishyfire | in /usr/java |
| 07:39.01 | ethical | fishyfire: have you tried echo $JAVA |
| 07:39.07 | ethical | to ensure your path is right |
| 07:39.12 | findlay | what does your $PATH look like? |
| 07:39.19 | ethical | and that too |
| 07:39.51 | fishyfire | i typed echo $java and it just printed a blank line |
| 07:39.58 | findlay | has to be CAPS |
| 07:40.18 | fishyfire | i tried both |
| 07:40.21 | fishyfire | and neither worked |
| 07:40.23 | fishyfire | root@localhost java]# export PATH=$PATH:/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_05/bin |
| 07:40.23 | fishyfire | [root@localhost java]# export CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:. |
| 07:40.36 | fishyfire | is what i typed for the PATH |
| 07:40.39 | findlay | aha, you have to put your new path in the front |
| 07:40.45 | findlay | not at the back |
| 07:41.06 | findlay | export PATH=/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_05/bin:$PATH |
| 07:41.06 | fishyfire | so what does it need to look like? |
| 07:41.27 | findlay | put that in your ~/.bashrc |
| 07:42.02 | ethical | findlay: wait... whats wrong with what he did? |
| 07:42.05 | findlay | I'm not sure about what CLASSPATH is supposed to contain since I've never used java |
| 07:42.36 | fishyfire | just put it in the file anywhere? |
| 07:43.03 | findlay | ethical: the shell tries a commnad in $PATH in the first entry and if that doesn't work, then the second, and so on |
| 07:43.19 | findlay | fishyfire: towards the end would probably be better |
| 07:45.19 | findlay | I credit all of my effective IRC tutoring methods to sjansen, BTW (: |
| 07:45.34 | ethical | does someone want to help me decypher what this means/ |
| 07:45.51 | ethical | i'm looking at the specs for my laptop |
| 07:45.59 | fishyfire | should i be able to see any of those other paths in my .bashrc file? |
| 07:46.04 | fishyfire | it seems rather blank |
| 07:46.09 | ethical | so its max output resolution it says is 1600x1200 |
| 07:46.15 | findlay | fishyfire: which paths? |
| 07:46.28 | ethical | but then it says "Simultaneous Video = YES (1024x768)" |
| 07:46.34 | fishyfire | [fishyfire@localhost cs236]$ echo $PATH |
| 07:46.34 | fishyfire | /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin/:/usr/games:/usr/lib/jre-1.4.2_07/bin:/home/fishyfire/bin |
| 07:46.43 | ethical | "XGA, SVGA, and VGA compatible" |
| 07:47.15 | findlay | fishyfire: most of those elements in your $PATH are set by the system, so you don't have to bother with that |
| 07:47.22 | fishyfire | ok |
| 07:48.11 | fishyfire | i pasted the export PATH=/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_05/bin:$PATH into the end of my .bashrc file and it still isn't working |
| 07:48.33 | findlay | probably some initscript. I've been spoiled by gentoo to long to ever know How It's Supposed To Work |
| 07:48.39 | fishyfire | i type javac sample.java |
| 07:48.46 | fishyfire | then java sample |
| 07:48.50 | findlay | fishyfire: now 'source ~/.bashrc' |
| 07:48.52 | fishyfire | and then it gives me this error |
| 07:48.58 | fishyfire | bash: /usr/lib/jre-1.4.2_07/bin/java: No such file or directory |
| 07:49.30 | fishyfire | [root@localhost java]# source ~/.bashrc |
| 07:49.30 | fishyfire | bash: TMOUT: readonly variable |
| 07:49.58 | findlay | what's TMOUT? |
| 07:50.47 | findlay | it looks like it's somewhere in your ~/.bashrc |
| 07:51.18 | fishyfire | by ~/.bashrc we are talking about the .bashrc file in my home directory correct? |
| 07:51.35 | findlay | yes. ~ means $HOME |
| 07:51.46 | fishyfire | ok |
| 07:51.52 | fishyfire | just want to make sure |
| 07:52.09 | fishyfire | here is my entire .bashrc file |
| 07:52.10 | fishyfire | # .bashrc |
| 07:52.10 | fishyfire | # User specific aliases and functions |
| 07:52.10 | fishyfire | # Source global definitions |
| 07:52.10 | fishyfire | if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then |
| 07:52.10 | fishyfire | . /etc/bashrc |
| 07:52.12 | fishyfire | fi |
| 07:52.14 | fishyfire | export PATH=/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_05/bin:$PATH |
| 07:52.22 | fishyfire | no TMOUT.... |
| 07:52.39 | findlay | try closing your terminal and opening a new one |
| 07:53.04 | findlay | and then 'echo $PATH' |
| 07:53.14 | ethical | ~Simultaneous Video |
| 07:53.55 | fishyfire | that worked! |
| 07:53.57 | fishyfire | thank you! |
| 07:54.08 | findlay | I always knew I was a genius |
| 07:56.38 | *** join/#utah RyanE_away (n=ryan@rberick.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 07:58.49 | findlay | Mozart's 39th symphonie is also quite excellent (: |
| 08:01.05 | fishyfire | well i need to get to bed so i can get up in a few hours |
| 08:01.07 | ethical | Dillingers Escape Plan's When Good Dogs Do Bad Things is also excellent |
| 08:01.12 | findlay | fishyfire: later |
| 08:01.14 | fishyfire | thanks again for the help |
| 08:01.16 | fishyfire | bye |
| 08:01.32 | ethical | how do fish catch on fire :( |
| 08:01.33 | findlay | ethical: indeed |
| 08:01.48 | ethical | his nick makes me sad |
| 08:02.27 | findlay | no, it's an allusion to Tux. It's about how Tux prefers his herring flame roasted |
| 08:02.53 | findlay | ~fishyfire |
| 08:02.54 | ibot | somebody said fishyfire was a sushi hater |
| 08:03.49 | ethical | ~findlay |
| 08:03.50 | ibot | findlay is probably wanting a SuSE-10.0 rock, or ibot is wierd |
| 08:04.06 | ethical | ~ctr |
| 08:04.08 | ibot | i guess ctr is really boris in disguise, or "Choose the Right" |
| 08:04.24 | ethical | haha |
| 08:04.30 | ethical | ibot pm'd me |
| 08:04.36 | ethical | i think he has a crush |
| 08:04.45 | ethical | ~maquis |
| 08:04.46 | ibot | I don't give that kind of information to filthy cardassian spies |
| 08:04.51 | findlay | ibot's a pretty wily bot |
| 08:04.57 | ethical | sounds like it |
| 08:05.01 | findlay | ibot: ibot is also a pretty wily bot |
| 08:05.03 | ibot | findlay: cannot alter locked factoids |
| 08:05.11 | ethical | ~Klipsch |
| 08:05.13 | findlay | ibot: fine |
| 08:05.15 | ibot | well, fine is [WPI] adj. Good, but not good enough to be cuspy. The word `fine' is used elsewhere, of course, but without the implicit comparison to the higher level implied by cuspy. |
| 08:05.52 | findlay | ~ibot |
| 08:05.54 | ibot | ibot is, like, a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 08:06.25 | findlay | ~~ |
| 08:06.26 | ibot | Every moment in which im called upon is torture |
| 08:06.41 | findlay | ibot: I feel so bad for you |
| 08:06.42 | ibot | You feel so bad for you? |
| 08:06.48 | findlay | ibot: yes |
| 08:06.49 | ibot | You don't say! |
| 08:06.57 | findlay | ibot: no |
| 08:06.58 | ibot | YES |
| 08:07.05 | findlay | ibot: whatever |
| 08:07.06 | ibot | i heard whatever is the last word of the loser of an argument |
| 08:12.21 | ethical | ibot: i think you just got owned |
| 08:12.22 | ibot | You think you just got owned? |
| 08:12.30 | ethical | you used that joke already |
| 08:12.54 | ethical | ibot: Thrice is awesome |
| 08:12.56 | ibot | ethical: okay |
| 08:13.00 | ethical | ~Thrice |
| 08:13.02 | ibot | it has been said that thrice is awesome |
| 08:13.59 | ethical | ibot: "Try it" does this work? |
| 08:14.03 | ethical | ~Try it |
| 08:14.13 | ethical | ~"Try it" |
| 08:14.27 | findlay | is |
| 08:14.31 | ethical | ibot: TryIt does this work? |
| 08:14.40 | ethical | ~TryIt |
| 08:14.43 | findlay | is || are |
| 08:14.55 | ethical | hmm |
| 08:15.13 | ethical | ibot: Try It is going to work |
| 08:15.14 | ibot | ethical: what are you talking about? |
| 08:15.18 | ethical | ~Try It |
| 08:15.30 | ethical | does it have to be one word? |
| 08:15.59 | ethical | ~ethical |
| 08:16.24 | ethical | ibot: ethical is something you aren't |
| 08:16.26 | ibot | okay, ethical |
| 08:16.32 | ethical | ~ethical |
| 08:16.33 | ibot | i guess ethical is something you aren't |
| 08:16.33 | findlay | no, but you need a state-of-being verb |
| 08:16.39 | ethical | haha |
| 08:16.59 | ethical | ibot: try it is just a test |
| 08:17.01 | ibot | ethical: what are you talking about? |
| 08:17.09 | ethical | ibot: good food is just a test |
| 08:17.11 | ibot | okay, ethical |
| 08:17.23 | ethical | ~good food |
| 08:17.25 | ibot | methinks good food is just a test |
| 08:17.30 | ethical | okay |
| 08:17.35 | ethical | i guess it doesnt like 'it' |
| 08:18.14 | ethical | ibot: it is something I hate |
| 08:18.15 | ibot | ethical: I think you lost me on that one |
| 08:18.30 | ethical | ibot: it is not going to work |
| 08:18.31 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, ethical |
| 08:20.23 | ethical | ibot: Stare At The Sun is cause I am due for a miracle, I'm waiting for a sign, I'll straight into the sun and I wont close my eyes... til I understand or go blind |
| 08:20.24 | ibot | okay, ethical |
| 08:20.36 | ethical | ~Stare at the Sun |
| 08:20.37 | ibot | i guess stare at the sun is cause I am due for a miracle, I'm waiting for a sign, I'll straight into the sun and I wont close my eyes... til I understand or go blind |
| 08:20.51 | ethical | awesome. |
| 08:21.01 | QBFreak | "I'll straight..." ? |
| 08:21.08 | QBFreak | missing a word? |
| 08:21.10 | ethical | dang it |
| 08:21.13 | ethical | you ruined it |
| 08:21.16 | ethical | haha |
| 08:21.22 | QBFreak | just doing my job |
| 08:21.28 | ethical | well you are doing it well |
| 08:21.38 | QBFreak | excelent |
| 08:23.05 | ethical | ibot: Stare At The Sun is I'm feeling like I'm due for a miracle, I'm waiting for a sign, I'll stare straight into the sun and I wont close my eyes... til I understand or go blind |
| 08:23.06 | ibot | ...but stare at the sun is already something else... |
| 08:23.18 | ethical | ibot: Stare At The Sun is I'm feeling like I'm due for a miracle, I'm waiting for a sign, I'll stare straight into the sun and I wont close my eyes... til I understand or go blind |
| 08:23.20 | ibot | ...but stare at the sun is already something else... |
| 08:23.29 | ethical | ibot: do it! |
| 08:23.30 | ibot | ACTION does it!. |
| 08:23.38 | QBFreak | ibot: Stare At The sun is now foo |
| 08:23.39 | ibot | ...but stare at the sun is already something else... |
| 08:23.42 | QBFreak | hmm |
| 08:23.59 | ethical | ibot: hates it! |
| 08:24.10 | QBFreak | ibot: unset Stare At The sun |
| 08:24.51 | QBFreak | ibot: introduce yourself |
| 08:25.04 | ethical | ibot: do a little dance! |
| 08:25.06 | ibot | ACTION does a little dance!. |
| 08:25.08 | QBFreak | ibot, introduce yourself |
| 08:25.14 | QBFreak | dangit, I know he knows this one |
| 08:25.16 | ethical | ibot: make a little love! |
| 08:25.17 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `a little love!'. Stop. |
| 08:25.27 | ethical | ibot: get down tonight! |
| 08:25.31 | QBFreak | ibot: who are you? |
| 08:25.34 | ibot | QBFreak: what are you talking about? |
| 08:25.40 | ethical | ibot: who |
| 08:25.42 | QBFreak | ibot: you! |
| 08:25.43 | ibot | i'm a broken bot |
| 08:26.11 | ethical | ibot: you are broken |
| 08:26.12 | ibot | ethical: what are you talking about? |
| 08:26.24 | ethical | ibot: what are you talking about? |
| 08:26.41 | QBFreak | ibot: do you like cheese? |
| 08:26.42 | ibot | yes, I like cheese. |
| 08:26.53 | ethical | ibot: do you like crackers? |
| 08:26.54 | ibot | yes, I like crackers. |
| 08:26.57 | QBFreak | ibot: do you like asdf? |
| 08:26.58 | ibot | yes, I like asdf. |
| 08:27.08 | ethical | ibot: do you like cheese and crackers? |
| 08:27.10 | ibot | yes, I like cheese and crackers. |
| 08:27.18 | ethical | yeah |
| 08:27.23 | ethical | ibot: do you like QBFreak? |
| 08:27.24 | ibot | yes, I like QBFreak. |
| 08:27.28 | QBFreak | ack! |
| 08:27.34 | ethical | woo woo! |
| 08:27.46 | QBFreak | but then again, I suspect this is a simple rule like most of the other things |
| 08:28.06 | ethical | ibot: do you like boys or girls? |
| 08:28.07 | ibot | yes, I like boys or girls. |
| 08:28.37 | ethical | well at least hes not picky |
| 08:30.03 | QBFreak | ibot: make cookies |
| 08:30.04 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `cookies'. Stop. |
| 08:30.49 | ethical | ibot: make install |
| 08:30.50 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
| 08:30.57 | ethical | ibot: make clean! |
| 08:30.58 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `clean!'. Stop. |
| 08:31.30 | QBFreak | err |
| 08:33.54 | QBFreak | if my TV was bigger than my monitor I might consider getting another card for it, but 12" just isn't worth it :) |
| 08:34.38 | ethical | haha |
| 08:34.41 | ethical | well this is for a laptop |
| 08:34.54 | QBFreak | ah |
| 08:35.21 | QBFreak | take their funky propritary plug and make it RCA |
| 08:39.02 | ethical | haha |
| 08:39.12 | ethical | well mines has an svideo out |
| 08:39.15 | QBFreak | I mean thats what the adaptor does |
| 08:39.15 | ethical | i'm just trying to get it to work |
| 08:39.26 | QBFreak | in linux I assume? |
| 08:39.34 | ethical | of course |
| 08:43.10 | QBFreak | whee, the Philadelphia experiment |
| 08:44.16 | QBFreak | or project |
| 08:44.18 | QBFreak | or whatever |
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| 13:24.21 | brac | ~lart emcnabb |
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| 14:46.32 | ^Migs^ | Aaron, you wouldn't happen to know anyone looking for free room and board, would you? |
| 14:46.44 | atoponce | maybe |
| 14:46.46 | atoponce | where at? |
| 14:46.52 | ^Migs^ | http://www.justinreeve.com/freeroom |
| 14:47.14 | ^Migs^ | I've only advertised it a little bit, but I'm going to have to start getting more aggressive. We've only gotten one call on this, and it's been a week already. |
| 14:48.37 | atoponce | my brother is getting "kicked out" soon, i can let him know |
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| 14:51.13 | atoponce | my mom told him he has until 27 to either get married or move out |
| 14:55.02 | ^Migs^ | hmmm, we're looking for a girl, particularly. Plus we don't really want someone to just mooch off us. |
| 14:55.08 | ^Migs^ | it would preferrably be a student |
| 14:55.32 | ^Migs^ | that's funny, though |
| 14:55.38 | atoponce | oh, ok |
| 14:55.57 | atoponce | my brother is a student at WSU, and he is looking for an apartment |
| 14:56.02 | ^Migs^ | cool |
| 14:56.09 | atoponce | but that's cool |
| 14:56.19 | ^Migs^ | I don't want a guy alone in the house with my wife and girls |
| 14:56.29 | atoponce | don't blame you |
| 14:56.32 | atoponce | i wouldn't either |
| 14:56.35 | ^Migs^ | I don't care how awesome he is |
| 14:57.12 | atoponce | even though my brother is a teddy bear, he is 6'4" and 250lbs. he's a little intimidating |
| 14:57.56 | ^Migs^ | heh |
| 15:05.38 | atoponce | i do not want to go to work this morning |
| 15:06.47 | ^Migs^ | I already had a client get entirely too dramatic that I missed the deadline on his project this morning. |
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| 15:08.34 | atoponce | i just have a big project that i have been working on this week that is due today |
| 15:08.42 | atoponce | and i am not in the mood to deal with it |
| 15:08.47 | elg | ~pay atoponce |
| 15:08.48 | atoponce | or the clients for that matter |
| 15:09.29 | atoponce | i wish it paid! :) |
| 15:09.54 | atoponce | this project is probably $100K or more. |
| 15:10.04 | atoponce | think i'll see any of that ouside my normal salary? |
| 15:10.10 | atoponce | yeah, right |
| 15:10.34 | ^Migs^ | man wtf |
| 15:10.56 | ^Migs^ | why are you doing a huge project if it doesn't pay? |
| 15:11.06 | ^Migs^ | a small project, sure. |
| 15:11.35 | atoponce | it's just part of the job |
| 15:11.38 | ^Migs^ | ah |
| 15:12.08 | atoponce | i do these big ones 3-4 times a year |
| 15:12.19 | atoponce | the small ones 6-7 per day |
| 15:13.27 | atoponce | now the christmas bonus... |
| 15:13.34 | atoponce | that's something to look forward to! |
| 15:15.02 | ^Migs^ | I miss working for a commercial company sometimes |
| 15:15.15 | ^Migs^ | so many perks like that |
| 15:15.39 | atoponce | yeah, but it doesn't come without it's fair share of problems |
| 15:15.49 | ^Migs^ | of course |
| 15:16.01 | ^Migs^ | which is why I work for the state government now |
| 15:16.02 | atoponce | for example, every other year, we are slammed busy |
| 15:16.17 | atoponce | on the off years, they decide who they're going to lay off |
| 15:16.37 | atoponce | seniority doesn't matter |
| 15:16.43 | atoponce | just skill and work ethic |
| 15:16.44 | ^Migs^ | my company never did it |
| 15:16.56 | ^Migs^ | in fact, the more I hear about other people's companies, the more I realize how great my old company was |
| 15:17.00 | atoponce | you have to top of your team, or you should be getting nervous |
| 15:17.06 | atoponce | :) |
| 15:17.37 | ^Migs^ | yeah, that sucks |
| 15:17.46 | ^Migs^ | there's some sense to it, of course... |
| 15:17.51 | atoponce | luckily, this year is the busy year |
| 15:18.02 | ^Migs^ | where do you work anyway? |
| 15:18.13 | atoponce | yeah. i don't complain. i keep my own |
| 15:18.16 | atoponce | Venture Data |
| 15:18.25 | atoponce | market research firm |
| 15:18.48 | ^Migs^ | okay |
| 15:18.52 | atoponce | heard of them? |
| 15:19.00 | ^Migs^ | nope |
| 15:19.07 | atoponce | yeah, most people haven't |
| 15:19.19 | ^Migs^ | I used to work for Viranim Technologies. |
| 15:19.24 | ^Migs^ | heard of them? :) |
| 15:19.36 | atoponce | we get telephone surveys from clients. i program the surveys for the call centers in washington and oregon |
| 15:19.45 | ^Migs^ | okay |
| 15:19.53 | atoponce | i am also the director of sample setup and manipulation |
| 15:20.09 | atoponce | so i don't worry about my job. too valuable. :) |
| 15:20.47 | atoponce | i would like to learn the data processing aspect too, just for that edge. you know? |
| 15:20.57 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 15:21.28 | atoponce | the reason the years alternate is because of the elections |
| 15:21.56 | atoponce | this year being an election year, we will be doing A TON of political surveys about candidates and issues |
| 15:22.02 | ^Migs^ | oh, okay |
| 15:22.09 | ^Migs^ | makes more sense |
| 15:22.21 | atoponce | we still do other projects, though |
| 15:22.39 | atoponce | the one i am working on is a washington post newspaper readership survey |
| 15:22.51 | atoponce | so it varies |
| 15:28.04 | lars-ut | Pres. Bush: "You cannot enforce the border without having a temporary guest worker program - the two go hand in hand." |
| 15:28.26 | atoponce | i heard that last night |
| 15:28.32 | atoponce | he needs to be slapped |
| 15:28.34 | lars-ut | I can't believe he said that |
| 15:28.55 | lars-ut | wait... I can. |
| 15:29.19 | atoponce | here's the thing: amnesty didn't work last time with Pres. Regan, and it isn't going to work now |
| 15:29.20 | ^Migs^ | God bless the President |
| 15:30.38 | atoponce | i commend him for sticking to his guns with the war on terror, but the immigration issue, he is WAY off. |
| 15:31.07 | lars-ut | Anytime Democrats & Republicans agree on something the American people are getting screwed. |
| 15:31.16 | atoponce | lol |
| 15:31.35 | atoponce | the polls say that 60-70% of americans want the illegals out |
| 15:31.39 | lars-ut | yup |
| 15:31.48 | ^Migs^ | my father-in-law's an illegal immigrant |
| 15:31.53 | atoponce | so why are we discussing temp residence |
| 15:32.03 | ^Migs^ | I wouldn't mind having him deported |
| 15:32.27 | lars-ut | because our representatives are no longer representative of the people |
| 15:32.37 | ^Migs^ | except all my in-laws would be mad if I supported getting the illegals out, so I have to pretend to be against it |
| 15:33.22 | atoponce | ^Migs^: they'd get over it. :) |
| 15:33.31 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 15:33.36 | ^Migs^ | he's not the easiest person to get along with |
| 15:33.46 | atoponce | i know how that is |
| 15:33.59 | ^Migs^ | we need to keep the U.S. the way it's been for 300 years. Free of foreigners. |
| 15:34.17 | atoponce | well, if they are legal, i don't have a problem at all |
| 15:34.19 | Jayce^ | I dont' mind foreigners, if they're legal |
| 15:34.19 | atoponce | let them come |
| 15:34.45 | atoponce | it's when they are _illegal_ and using the services i pay with my tax money that gets under my skin |
| 15:35.06 | atoponce | scoial security, medicare, insurance, etc. |
| 15:35.17 | ^Migs^ | that free of foreigners thing was a joke |
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| 15:35.27 | ^Migs^ | but yeah, that pisses me off, too |
| 15:35.30 | atoponce | ahh |
| 15:35.31 | lars-ut | prisons... |
| 15:35.34 | ECS | ~lart Utah |
| 15:35.41 | ^Migs^ | my father-in-law even runs a business. I'm not sure if he pays all his taxes on it. |
| 15:35.59 | ECS | ~kill Utah for charging me taxes on money made out of state. |
| 15:36.01 | ibot | ACTION shoots a ionized tachyon gun at Utah for charging me taxes on money made out of state. |
| 15:36.05 | atoponce | the issue is with our country, though, we can't even find the white collar criminals. |
| 15:36.14 | atoponce | how are we supposed to find the illegals |
| 15:36.32 | lars-ut | -lart Utah for taxation without representation |
| 15:36.43 | ^Migs^ | we should just set up a big giant prison along the border. That way, when they try to cross, they're automatically in prison. |
| 15:37.06 | lars-ut | atoponce: that's because we need legal reform |
| 15:37.19 | atoponce | less then 10% of white collar criminals are caught, including fraud, counterfeiting, tax evasion, money launderin, computer hacking, etc. |
| 15:37.50 | ^Migs^ | most criminals get away with their crimes |
| 15:37.57 | ^Migs^ | regardless of they're white collar or not |
| 15:37.58 | ^Migs^ | *if |
| 15:38.43 | atoponce | the numbers are more in favor of the bigger stuff, like murder, kidnapping, etc. it's over 60%, last i heard |
| 15:39.23 | atoponce | i get all worked up when i hear the lefties talk about immigration |
| 15:40.00 | lars-ut | lefties = republicans |
| 15:40.08 | lars-ut | wait.. |
| 15:40.18 | atoponce | with dubya leading the way |
| 15:40.51 | atoponce | lars-ut: i would like to see the corporations get hit first |
| 15:41.03 | lars-ut | lefties = republican congressmen, newly appointed supreme court justices, & the executive branch |
| 15:41.22 | atoponce | have the corporations not with-hold taxes on illegal checks |
| 15:41.27 | lars-ut | atoponce: not sure I agree with ya' there |
| 15:41.48 | lars-ut | re: corporations being hit first |
| 15:41.52 | atoponce | they will then have to take the hit, and i guarantee you they won't hire them, which seems to be the #1 reason for coming over |
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| 15:42.13 | atoponce | just don't withold taxes on illegal checks |
| 15:42.22 | atoponce | the companies will then have to pay it instead |
| 15:42.35 | atoponce | that sort of financial hit will begin making changes |
| 15:42.42 | lars-ut | atoponce: I've never heard that idea before |
| 15:42.49 | atoponce | and the minimum wage will increase too |
| 15:43.04 | atoponce | it's a bill by a congressman that he's trying to get passed |
| 15:43.12 | atoponce | it makes the most sense if you ask me |
| 15:43.21 | lars-ut | Tancredo(sp)? |
| 15:43.29 | atoponce | sounds right |
| 15:43.41 | lars-ut | He's amazing |
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| 15:47.02 | lars-ut | Although I couldn't believe what I heard him say earlier this week - he asked the listeners of a radio show on which Tancredo was being interviewed to pray for his health & safety, & that of his family |
| 15:47.10 | lars-ut | the implications were frightening |
| 15:48.15 | atoponce | yeah. |
| 15:48.43 | atoponce | i hope everything is okay |
| 15:48.59 | atoponce | i can't find the reference to this bill, but it is dead on |
| 15:49.13 | lars-ut | When a congressman is worried about his safety becuase of his immigration stance... well, it feels like the 3rd world. |
| 15:49.38 | lars-ut | hence the spike in kidnap insurance in South Texas |
| 15:50.18 | atoponce | yup |
| 15:50.52 | ^Migs^ | is Ruby on Rails worth learning? |
| 15:51.03 | ^Migs^ | I've been meaning to try it |
| 15:53.24 | Jayce^ | if you do a lot of web specific development, and you know, or want to learn ruby, then yes |
| 15:53.40 | Jayce^ | otherwise, there is probably a similar theme in your preferred language... |
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| 16:01.48 | ^Migs^ | hmmm |
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| 16:05.47 | elg | ^Migs^: there are many imitations |
| 16:05.57 | elg | but the real power behind rails is ruby. |
| 16:06.28 | elg | if you think language X is just as good as or better than ruby, then you might as well spring for the imitation in language X. |
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| 16:10.39 | elg | hehe. you guys waste too much time watching tv. I read stuff while I play WoW |
| 16:10.54 | elg | is that supposed to be funny? cuz it is |
| 16:11.43 | Jayce^ | no, he said he *doesn't* read it |
| 16:12.38 | ^Migs^ | WoW really doesn't require a lot of brains |
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| 16:12.52 | elg | Jayce^: right you are. probably meant to be funny then |
| 16:12.59 | Jayce^ | definately was |
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| 16:40.45 | harleypig | GOOMBAH |
| 16:40.48 | RyanE_aw1y | what's up? |
| 16:40.56 | RyanE_aw1y | oops. Wrong window. :) |
| 16:41.03 | tensai | grr. stupid evolution. |
| 16:41.03 | elg | ~goombah |
| 16:41.10 | elg | tensai: x-men got you down? |
| 16:41.45 | harleypig | tensai: tell'em to quit pickin' on you |
| 16:41.46 | Jayce^ | harleypig, the night the bear ate goombah ? |
| 16:42.31 | tensai | I upgraded firefox and now evolution freezes when it formats a message. apparently *any* message. |
| 16:43.51 | harleypig | I'm gonna write a irssi plugin that will randomly shout nonsense words in #utah for me. |
| 16:52.52 | emcnabb | morning all |
| 16:53.03 | sjansen | tensai: really? evolution at least used to use gtkhtml, it should have any dependency on firefox |
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| 16:53.14 | sjansen | CHEESE! |
| 16:53.44 | tensai | sjansen: that's the only thing I can think of that changed. firefox also sucked in and updated bonobo and some other gnome libs. that's where I assume the problem is. |
| 16:53.53 | tensai | s/in and/in an/ |
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| 16:58.02 | maquis | wow... talking about genotypes and phenotypes.... and someone asked if it was similar to classes and objects... and then we got over to cloning and |
| 16:58.08 | maquis | "object-oriented humans" |
| 16:59.09 | tensai | sounds as likely as object oriented compression |
| 16:59.20 | ^Migs^ | this is craszy |
| 16:59.35 | ^Migs^ | this guy was sitting in the cubicle next to me for several weeks: http://kutv.com/local/local_story_079225614.html |
| 16:59.36 | brac | [kutv.com - Former Teacher Pleads Guilty To Child Sexual Abuse] |
| 17:04.28 | maquis | ^Migs^: that's scary |
| 17:05.34 | RyanE_ | The solution to ^Migs^' problem is that we should ban cubicles. |
| 17:05.43 | RyanE_ | then that would never happen. |
| 17:08.26 | ^Migs^ | agreed |
| 17:08.49 | ^Migs^ | my boss thinks the guy was framed, but that doesn't make much sense to me |
| 17:09.38 | emcnabb | he doesn't have to worry; the courts don't give a damn about kids getting molested |
| 17:10.01 | sjansen | tensai: oh, well if you updated bonobo all bets are off |
| 17:10.09 | sjansen | personally, I'd love to see bonobo die |
| 17:10.13 | ^Migs^ | well, that's certainly not true |
| 17:10.21 | ^Migs^ | but it has to be proven in court |
| 17:10.27 | emcnabb | I personally know two children who were molested in the last year and both of the cases were thrown out |
| 17:11.09 | jlp_work | ^Migs^: he plead guilty, so it doesn't have to be proven in court |
| 17:11.09 | ^Migs^ | probably due to lack of evidence |
| 17:11.19 | ^Migs^ | precisely. Makes everyone else's job either. |
| 17:11.23 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I agree maquis |
| 17:11.53 | jlp_work | well, he plead guilty to 3rd degree charges, so the 1st degree charges don't have to be proven in court |
| 17:12.02 | emcnabb | the kid confessed to the cops, counselors, and family members; the molester took one lie detector test, passed, and was let free |
| 17:12.18 | emcnabb | and they dropped the three DUI's he had against him the same week |
| 17:12.29 | ^Migs^ | this needs to be brought up in court |
| 17:12.37 | emcnabb | there were too many cases for the cops to take care of in Kerns |
| 17:12.47 | ^Migs^ | there was no case to be thrown out in your example, since it never went to court |
| 17:13.05 | ^Migs^ | cops don't take care of cases. Prosecutors do. |
| 17:13.16 | emcnabb | ok, prosecutors |
| 17:13.27 | ^Migs^ | they need to obtain legal representation and pursue this matter in court. Not just tell a bunch of people. |
| 17:13.27 | emcnabb | the court wouldn't take the case |
| 17:13.56 | ^Migs^ | why not? |
| 17:13.59 | maquis | stupid |
| 17:14.09 | emcnabb | they did file a suit, but the prosecutors wouldn't do anything about it |
| 17:14.10 | ^Migs^ | I really don't think you're telling us everything, emncnabb |
| 17:14.14 | emcnabb | I am |
| 17:14.41 | ^Migs^ | even still, from this you conclude that courts in general don't give a damn about molested kids? |
| 17:14.53 | ^Migs^ | I think your instance would be rather isolated |
| 17:17.16 | emcnabb | my wife's friend in Atlanta had her child molested by her husband; the girl was three years old; she drew pictures of daddy's snake for the child therapist, etc. A few weeks ago the prosecutor said they wouldn't be able to persue it any farther because the child was too young to testify and the child didn't "look the investigator in the eyes" when she told the story |
| 17:17.33 | emcnabb | (that's another example, different than the one I mentioned above) |
| 17:18.12 | maquis | 3 year-olds aren't necessarily going to look investigators in the eyes... |
| 17:18.43 | maquis | a lot of rape victims, even adults, would have a hard time looking people in the eyes while talking about what happened, i'm sure |
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| 17:19.06 | ^Migs^ | sounds more like a problem with the investigator than a problem with the courts |
| 17:19.25 | ^Migs^ | the problem is that you don't know if the wife is trying to push the child into saying certain things |
| 17:19.47 | emcnabb | no, the investigators know what the courts are going accept, so they only persue the cases they know they have the chance of winning |
| 17:19.48 | ^Migs^ | the rights of the suspects need to be protected, too. We can't just go off wildly convicting innocent people. |
| 17:20.06 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: I agree |
| 17:21.06 | emcnabb | but most of the cases where I have personally known the victims haven't been persuded |
| 17:21.15 | emcnabb | I personally don't have a lot of faith in the system |
| 17:21.44 | ^Migs^ | the majority of criminals get away with their crimes. That's just the nature of the system. |
| 17:21.44 | emcnabb | and by the "system" I mean everyone (prosecutors, courts, etc) |
| 17:22.01 | emcnabb | ^Migs^: which I don't agree with |
| 17:22.17 | ^Migs^ | it's not something you can or can't agree with. It's just the way society is. |
| 17:22.44 | emcnabb | I can say that I don't like how our system is set up, and I can say that I think it is unjust |
| 17:24.03 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
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| 17:27.07 | ^Migs^ | http://www.us-sex-offenders.com/map.aspx |
| 17:28.33 | ^Migs^ | there's a couple that live a block away from me |
| 17:33.21 | emcnabb | same here |
| 17:38.13 | ^Migs^ | makes ya feel all warm and cozy doesn't it? |
| 17:41.15 | emcnabb | at least there are more tools these days to keep kids safe, and the media keeps us more aware of problems than it did in the past |
| 17:41.58 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 17:42.03 | maquis | i heard that last year, a girl got raped in her apartment like a block away from where i'm currently living... that freaked me out somewhat |
| 17:42.35 | maquis | particularly when my roommates are stupid about locking the door |
| 17:42.58 | emcnabb | :( |
| 17:45.31 | ^Migs^ | that pisses me off |
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| 18:05.07 | maquis | ^Migs^: yeah |
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| 18:34.18 | tensai | sjansen: well, upgrading all of evolution's dependencies seems to have done the trick. could have been any of like 20 packages that was causing the problem. |
| 18:36.25 | elg | ah the joys of code sharing |
| 18:37.07 | tensai | evolution's dependency list reads like a tolstoy novel |
| 18:39.02 | tensai | I'm glad it's fixed though. I was pulling my hair out trying to use webmail. |
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| 18:46.48 | RyanE | tensai: I use webmail quite a bit, but it's convenient, as I don't have much hair to pull out. |
| 18:47.28 | elg | dilvie: help me brainstorm |
| 18:54.23 | sjansen | http://alwaysstock.net/blog/2006/03/23/how-to-drive-your-website-developer-insane-a-primer/ |
| 18:54.24 | brac | [Blog] |
| 18:58.18 | elg | -lart sjansen |
| 18:58.33 | elg | wow that is harsh |
| 19:07.40 | sjansen | o/~ I'm only happy when it rains ~/o |
| 19:07.57 | elg | ~tomsdiner |
| 19:08.13 | elg | ~toms diner |
| 19:08.14 | ibot | There's a woman on the outside looking inside Does she see me? No she does not really see me cause she sees her own reflection And I'm trying not to notice that she's hitching up her skirt And while she's straightening her stockings her hair Is getting wet... |
| 19:09.04 | ^Migs^ | wtf |
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| 19:10.31 | elg | you've never heard tom's diner? |
| 19:11.28 | ^Migs^ | nope |
| 19:11.32 | ^Migs^ | ~toms diner |
| 19:11.35 | ibot | There's a woman on the outside looking inside Does she see me? No she does not really see me cause she sees her own reflection And I'm trying not to notice that she's hitching up her skirt And while she's straightening her stockings her hair Is getting wet... |
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| 19:12.00 | elg | it sounds kind of like the i dream of genie theme |
| 19:12.27 | elg | it also happens to sound a lot like bach's prelude 24 from wtc2 |
| 19:12.34 | elg | so i'm having a hard time remembering the tune. |
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| 19:18.13 | elg | ~biopiracy |
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| 19:19.52 | elg | ~biopiracy is dumb |
| 19:19.54 | ibot | elg: okay |
| 19:20.08 | elg | ~biopiracy also is something that makes sjansen sad. |
| 19:20.09 | ibot | elg: I think you lost me on that one |
| 19:20.21 | elg | ~biopiracy is also something that makes sjansen sad. |
| 19:20.22 | ibot | elg: okay |
| 19:22.04 | elg | sjansen: I'd never heard it before either, but it sounds just as stupid as the root cause for their complaint in the first place (patents) |
| 19:22.45 | sjansen | ~depress elg |
| 19:22.56 | elg | hey, you can't patent that, it's natural! Um, so is the physics that makes mechanical inventions work. |
| 19:27.25 | maquis | ~patent gravity |
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| 19:40.44 | maquis | why do i always have so much trouble with this? i just want to copy something from gvim to a different window... |
| 19:40.49 | maquis | for some reason, it won't let me |
| 19:41.05 | maquis | it's like it's sticking it in a different clipboard... |
| 19:42.57 | tensai | you know X has two clipboards, right? |
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| 19:47.36 | elg | how are you trying to do it, maquis ? |
| 19:54.05 | tensai | ~lart maquis |
| 19:56.15 | findlay | I prefer the aphorism that is the first tag as it was what first came to mind when I read "biopiracy": stupid |
| 19:56.37 | findlay | stupid on so many levels it's funny |
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| 20:09.40 | ^Migs^ | I don't think biopiracy is a laughing matter |
| 20:10.09 | ^Migs^ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biopiracy |
| 20:10.21 | elg | I read that before my comments |
| 20:11.11 | ^Migs^ | are you a biopirate? |
| 20:11.31 | elg | yup |
| 20:11.35 | elg | I bake sourdough bread |
| 20:11.43 | elg | I enslave bacteria and yeast |
| 20:11.58 | elg | and privatize the benefits |
| 20:11.59 | findlay | and then murder them? |
| 20:12.16 | ^Migs^ | I hope you die a horrible death |
| 20:12.32 | elg | me too. you only get to die once |
| 20:12.39 | ^Migs^ | millions upon millions are dying because of you |
| 20:12.49 | findlay | what's horrible about death? |
| 20:13.07 | ^Migs^ | nothing |
| 20:13.16 | ^Migs^ | I said I hope he dies a HORRIBLE DEATH |
| 20:13.31 | ^Migs^ | notice I had to qualify the death, since death itself is a neutral term |
| 20:13.33 | findlay | but there are no horrible deaths |
| 20:13.49 | ^Migs^ | says who? |
| 20:13.52 | elg | well, those deaths which are preceded by a lot of pain might be termed horrible deaths |
| 20:14.11 | ^Migs^ | death is usually considered the events immediately before the death and during the death itself |
| 20:14.19 | ^Migs^ | perhaps even after the death |
| 20:14.24 | elg | just for the record, I'd like "horrible death" as in falling out of a plane, not horrible death as in birds picking my bones clean while I'm alive |
| 20:14.49 | ^Migs^ | yeah, at least you get to do some skydiving before dying |
| 20:16.10 | ^Migs^ | my choice of horrible death would be getting mauled by a crowd of adoring fans |
| 20:19.33 | sjansen | I think I'd prefer painlessly falling asleep. Carbon monoxide, perhaps. |
| 20:20.07 | elg | no way, airplane crash |
| 20:20.38 | elg | as in small airplane that I'm piloting. maybe I'm 85 years old and mess up doing some aerobatic manouever |
| 20:22.14 | ^Migs^ | no, I'd be flying a high-speed jet |
| 20:22.19 | ^Migs^ | and crash into a mountain. Big explosion. |
| 20:24.28 | sjansen | I know one woman who has an 83 at 83 policy. If she makes it to 83, she wants to be doing 83 when she drives straight into wall. |
| 20:25.31 | findlay | not 88? |
| 20:25.38 | lars-ut-away | http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/l1.html |
| 20:25.38 | brac | [Steves Digicams - Nikon Coolpix L1 - User Review] |
| 20:25.43 | lars-ut-away | $229 at Orem Costco |
| 20:25.49 | lars-ut-away | 4 left |
| 20:26.03 | sjansen | findlay: *shrug* |
| 20:26.09 | lars-ut-away | There were 5, but I'm going to get one. |
| 20:26.16 | lars-ut-away | :) |
| 20:26.27 | sjansen | Jayce^: I'm telling you, man, carbon monoxide. |
| 20:26.41 | findlay | lars-ut-away: get me one and I'll pay you back after I've had a fabulous death (: |
| 20:26.44 | Jayce^ | lars-ut-away, I almost got one of those near christmas, got a Canon instead... but they were very close |
| 20:26.54 | lars-ut-away | shot to the head maybe? |
| 20:27.03 | lars-ut-away | w/a .22 |
| 20:27.20 | findlay | don't know if that would hurt or not |
| 20:27.24 | lars-ut-away | I think that would be quick though |
| 20:27.29 | Jayce^ | .22? no... bazooka... :) |
| 20:27.40 | lars-ut-away | no exit wound, just a wisked brain |
| 20:27.56 | harleypig | I want to be sitting on 20 pounds of C4, driving at 100 mph with the detonator on the steering column. |
| 20:27.56 | emcnabb | Jayce^: how about being paintballed to death? |
| 20:28.00 | lars-ut-away | lol |
| 20:28.20 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, nah, I'm the one dishing that out :) |
| 20:28.27 | lars-ut-away | harleypig: but the real question is - what color will your beard be at the moment of death? |
| 20:28.27 | findlay | what if you were struck by a projectile moving .9 of the speed of light? |
| 20:28.43 | harleypig | .22 there is still a chance you'll survive. |
| 20:28.48 | emcnabb | it's too bad Jayce^ is scared for me to play paintball with him |
| 20:28.48 | harleypig | neopolitan |
| 20:28.55 | emcnabb | pansy |
| 20:29.18 | lars-ut-away | harleypig: florentino neopolitan ? |
| 20:29.34 | maquis | Jayce^ is scared of emcnabb :) |
| 20:29.34 | sjansen | BADGERS! |
| 20:29.34 | harleypig | actually, burnning tapirs (a la yellowbeard) sounds like a good idea! |
| 20:29.46 | sjansen | Jayce^ is scared of emcnabb |
| 20:29.49 | emcnabb | Jayce^: you don't plan events around my schedule |
| 20:30.11 | Jayce^ | badgers? we dont' need no stinkin' badgers |
| 20:30.17 | lars-ut-away | spousal permission obtained. |
| 20:30.19 | findlay | ~badger |
| 20:30.21 | ibot | http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ |
| 20:30.21 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, hey, most saturdays |
| 20:30.22 | brac | [Badger Badger Badger] |
| 20:30.30 | findlay | ok |
| 20:30.32 | emcnabb | This is training center where I'm teaching next week (for Red Hat): http://thewhitehouselasvegas.com/ |
| 20:30.33 | brac | [THEWHITEHOUSELASVEGAS.COM] |
| 20:30.37 | emcnabb | don't laugh too hard |
| 20:30.44 | elg | ~laugh |
| 20:30.46 | ibot | ACTION rolls around on the floor laughing |
| 20:30.51 | emcnabb | ~lart elg |
| 20:31.06 | elg | sweet disco robots |
| 20:31.43 | harleypig | :D meeting , bbiab |
| 20:32.21 | sjansen | ~haha http://thewhitehouselasvegas.com/ |
| 20:32.22 | ibot | ACTION beats http://thewhitehouselasvegas.com/ about the head with the ha ha bat |
| 20:32.22 | brac | [THEWHITEHOUSELASVEGAS.COM] |
| 20:32.23 | brac | [THEWHITEHOUSELASVEGAS.COM] |
| 20:32.38 | sjansen | ~haha brac |
| 20:32.39 | ibot | ACTION beats brac about the head with the ha ha bat |
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| 20:33.19 | emcnabb | it's just so... disco |
| 20:33.37 | findlay | and a red hat |
| 20:35.28 | findlay | isn't it interesting that there are these characters in area on this CRT and somehow I can understand what they mean when strung together |
| 20:35.58 | findlay | and there seems to be a 1 to 1 mapping to simmilar looking characters on a panel with buttons on this desk |
| 20:37.35 | findlay | ~hahaha |
| 20:37.37 | ibot | methinks hahaha is http://www.shacknews.com//screens.x/iotd//5/thumbs/bsodirony.jpg Win 98 Increased Dependability...NOT |
| 20:37.38 | brac | [Shacknews - Screenshots] |
| 20:37.42 | findlay | ~hahahaha |
| 20:37.44 | ibot | methinks hahahaha is ahahahah |
| 20:40.02 | findlay | ~~ |
| 20:40.04 | ibot | Every moment in which im called upon is torture |
| 20:40.08 | findlay | ~~~ |
| 20:40.23 | findlay | ibot: you're just saying that |
| 20:43.54 | ^Migs^ | ~ |
| 20:43.57 | ^Migs^ | ~wtf |
| 20:44.07 | ^Migs^ | ~wtf findlay |
| 20:44.16 | ^Migs^ | ~wtf wtf |
| 20:46.28 | ^Migs^ | ~wtf zomg |
| 20:50.45 | ^Migs^ | ~wtf ibot |
| 20:51.56 | spr | "Just a bit of harmless brain alteration, thats all" |
| 20:53.00 | emcnabb | spr: go back to sleep |
| 20:58.29 | maquis | ~language ibot |
| 20:58.31 | ibot | ACTION grabs ibot by the ear and washes ibot's mouth out with soap |
| 20:58.45 | spr | emcnabb, but I've been up for hours. |
| 21:00.12 | findlay | isn't this so cool? It's like other people are on here and they're talking to each other |
| 21:00.49 | maquis | erm... |
| 21:00.53 | findlay | ibot: I'm wierd |
| 21:01.09 | findlay | ~findlay |
| 21:01.11 | ibot | you are probably wanting a SuSE-10.0 rock, or ibot is wierd |
| 21:01.39 | harleypig | is anyone aware of a cvs tool that will generate a report of what files and versions a user has touched? |
| 21:01.47 | maquis | what's it mean if gkrellm says my cpu usage is at 99% but top only shows one command using about 3%, and 2 commands using < 1% (and below that, it appears everything's using 0%)? |
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| 21:02.11 | harleypig | maquis: gkrellm doesn't know how to do math. |
| 21:02.19 | findlay | maquis: that proc/ps stuff can be tricky |
| 21:02.49 | maquis | so, it's likely that it's just a problem on gkrellm's end as opposed to a problem actually occuring on my computer? |
| 21:03.45 | findlay | %s/wierd/weird/gi |
| 21:05.22 | maquis | hmm |
| 21:05.36 | maquis | there is a line in top that might have more info, but i'm not sure i understand it |
| 21:05.45 | maquis | CPU states: 2.3% user, 53.9% nice, 41.8% system, 2.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle |
| 21:06.38 | maquis | i think that means i really am taking up all the cpu |
| 21:06.45 | maquis | but it won't tell me *what* is taking it up |
| 21:13.02 | maquis | also... |
| 21:13.08 | RyanE | CPU gnomes. |
| 21:13.15 | RyanE | use some compressed air to scare them out. |
| 21:13.30 | maquis | what would cause a program to take 23 seconds from when it prints out "Assertion Failed" until it aborts and dumps core? |
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| 21:24.03 | elg | maquis: your computer has issues. you need to get it to a shrink |
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| 21:31.32 | RyanE | maquis: high load? Like 99% :) |
| 21:32.40 | maquis | RyanE: yeah... like 99% |
| 21:32.43 | maquis | :) |
| 21:32.48 | maquis | elg: i know it has issues |
| 21:32.59 | maquis | but i'm afraid most of them are probably pebkac |
| 21:36.09 | spr | "Ah, the bounce has gone from his bungie" |
| 21:40.03 | tensai | sjansen: so what did you eat last night? Thai? |
| 21:40.40 | findlay | I heard it was KITTENS!! |
| 21:43.55 | ^Migs^ | you ate kittens? |
| 21:44.19 | ^Migs^ | are Thai restaurants in the U.S. allowed to serve kittens? |
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| 21:45.22 | findlay | sweet, vim-7.0 |
| 21:47.31 | tensai | ~depress findlay |
| 21:47.33 | ibot | ACTION kills a kitten and makes findlay watch |
| 21:47.50 | findlay | ibot: that's so depressing |
| 21:49.37 | emcnabb | http://evan.mcnabbs.org/tmp/fortune.jpg |
| 22:01.37 | elg | beta |
| 22:01.55 | findlay | still |
| 22:02.56 | emcnabb | it sounds like vim's development will be slowing down after vim 7 :-( |
| 22:03.16 | findlay | why? |
| 22:04.02 | emcnabb | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimannounce/message/152 |
| 22:05.16 | elg | it's all google's fault. evil google |
| 22:08.48 | emcnabb | it sounds like he'll still be able to work on vim, just not full time like he is now |
| 22:08.58 | QBFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.04 | Bradipo | What kind of development goes into vim anyway? |
| 22:09.39 | elg | feature creep |
| 22:10.11 | elg | the addition of folding was nice, and I'm sure unicode support is relatively new |
| 22:10.24 | elg | but mostly I could use any 6.x+ version of vim and not know the difference. |
| 22:10.30 | emcnabb | I'm actually looking forward to inline spell checking |
| 22:10.47 | emcnabb | since mutt and vim are pretty heavily tied together |
| 22:10.56 | elg | spell cheking is for wusses |
| 22:11.20 | emcnabb | or foor bade spelers |
| 22:11.36 | maquis | elg: there's not *too* much feature creep... we don't have an OS, web browser, Eliza-bot, tetris, or adventure game built in :) |
| 22:11.47 | elg | not yet, anyway :) |
| 22:11.50 | maquis | it could be worse :) |
| 22:11.56 | elg | actually I think I've seen tetris for vim |
| 22:12.02 | elg | as a plugin or something |
| 22:12.23 | emcnabb | same here |
| 22:12.29 | maquis | hmmm |
| 22:13.12 | emcnabb | http://www.vim.org/sponsor/vote_results.php |
| 22:13.14 | brac | [voting results : vim online] |
| 22:14.44 | maquis | hmmm |
| 22:14.48 | sjansen | tensai: I ended up being lazy and going to a Wendy's near my hotel. |
| 22:14.53 | maquis | persistent undo is something i've wished for on occasion |
| 22:15.02 | maquis | granted, that was more due to stupidity on my part |
| 22:15.19 | elg | mmm, tabbed windows would be delicious |
| 22:15.25 | elg | goodbye minibufexplorer |
| 22:15.42 | elg | the whole embed vim thing too |
| 22:16.05 | maquis | when i have multiple windows, i have to have them all open and split because i can never remember how to get to the others |
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| 22:17.47 | elg | pay-to-vote is a nice way to get some money for a popular program |
| 22:18.05 | elg | but he should really also take a poll from the rest of the world too |
| 22:18.22 | elg | maybe take the top 5 from the paid, and the top one from the unpaid |
| 22:18.27 | elg | or at least to be in touch and know |
| 22:19.38 | tensai | nah, people without money don't have opinions. least, not ones worth listening to |
| 22:19.46 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 22:20.23 | emcnabb | at least he doesn't ask for much |
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| 22:41.18 | RyanE | QBFreak: Home Depot has heat-shrink tubing in smaller sizes, although I don't know how small you're looking for. |
| 22:41.42 | RyanE | of course, their smaller sizes are pre-chopped pieces in varying sizes, not separate rolls of each size. |
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| 22:45.11 | lars-ut | :) |
| 22:45.20 | atoponce | lars-ut: which one? |
| 22:45.36 | lars-ut | Nikon Coolpix L1 |
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| 22:45.51 | lars-ut | point & shoot |
| 22:45.55 | atoponce | nice |
| 22:46.11 | atoponce | nikon is good |
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| 22:47.07 | lars-ut | appears nice. There was one left - the display model. Costco had it marked down - I paid $248.36 after tax |
| 22:47.25 | atoponce | that's about the price of my pentax |
| 22:47.30 | atoponce | get it today? |
| 22:47.39 | lars-ut | yes. Luckily I got the one in the box - somebody else got the display |
| 22:47.50 | atoponce | haha. good |
| 22:48.58 | atoponce | how is costco compared to sam's club? |
| 22:49.49 | lars-ut | I feel Costco has better buyers |
| 22:50.00 | lars-ut | so better products |
| 22:50.05 | atoponce | good. |
| 22:50.06 | lars-ut | I shop at both |
| 22:50.19 | atoponce | i hate sam's and want to shop costco, but my wife is sketchy |
| 22:50.35 | atoponce | it's more expensive, isn't it? |
| 22:50.40 | lars-ut | We buy more food at Sam's because it's closer to the house |
| 22:51.35 | lars-ut | not sure about that - they usually carry different product lines. Sam's seems to carry items that are a step down from what Costco has in my experience. |
| 22:51.43 | lars-ut | now I need to buy an SD card w/a built-in USB controller (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0502/05021902sandisk_ultraiiplus.asp) |
| 22:51.47 | atoponce | i mean for the membership |
| 22:51.57 | lars-ut | I don't remember |
| 22:52.02 | atoponce | ok |
| 22:52.15 | lars-ut | $40-60? |
| 23:00.11 | findlay | ~praise vim-7.0 |
| 23:00.13 | ibot | All hail vim-7.0! |
| 23:00.20 | RyanE | the nicest thing about Costco (maybe Sams too) is their very liberal return policy. |
| 23:00.31 | RyanE | don't like something, take it back, no questions asked. |
| 23:01.36 | RyanE | I bought my wife a flatscreen monitor for Christmas year before last, it broke down 4 months later, I returned it to Costco, they refunded my money, I bought a new monitor, same model, it was $150 less by that time, so I got a new monitor plus $150. Woo Hoo! |
| 23:05.43 | emcnabb | maquis: just wait until you get married and try to return wedding gifts; then you see Target's true side come out |
| 23:06.24 | atoponce | emcnabb: agreed |
| 23:06.53 | jlp_work | target is fine if you have a receipt. no receipt, no return |
| 23:07.08 | emcnabb | if you return something to Target (depending on what it is), you can only get money for certain DEPARTMENTS inside of target |
| 23:07.14 | jlp_work | (my sister-in-law works at target) |
| 23:07.30 | atoponce | jlp_work: you have special treatment! :) |
| 23:08.31 | emcnabb | here's another; you can only return gifts 2 - 3 times per registry (e.g. My wife went back several times to return gifts and after a few times they wouldn't let her) |
| 23:09.19 | atoponce | and they only allow, in most cases, exchanges for the same item. |
| 23:09.24 | emcnabb | I'm not sure about the whole story, but I had to end up going in and returning some (my license wasn't on file) |
| 23:09.34 | emcnabb | overall, I do like Target |
| 23:09.49 | atoponce | the red is a little much, but it's okay |
| 23:10.04 | atoponce | worlds better than walmart at any event |
| 23:10.15 | emcnabb | atoponce: I agree |
| 23:10.31 | emcnabb | sometimes a bit too pricey though |
| 23:10.43 | atoponce | true |
| 23:12.21 | jlp_work | I've gotten some good deals at target before... bought an AV selector switch (you know, plug the tivo in one port, dvd player in another, video game in a third, then push buttons on top to change between them) for $7.50 at target once |
| 23:12.39 | jlp_work | but in general, target's prices are higher (so's their quality, so it's not a one-way street) |
| 23:13.19 | emcnabb | jlp_work: yeah |
| 23:18.22 | maquis | hmmm... i generally don't mind target at all |
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| 23:18.27 | maquis | my mom thinks the quality sucks for stuff |
| 23:18.52 | maquis | but i figure it's pretty good for the prices, and it's nice to be able to get everything at once :) |
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| 23:23.26 | lars-ut | RyanE: I was told by Costco customer service if I had problem with the camera(including dropping it) to bring it back within a reasonable amount of time (the assistant mgr cited less than 2 years as reasonable) and they would take it back |
| 23:23.58 | QBFreak | wow |
| 23:24.00 | lars-ut | ~praise Costco |
| 23:24.01 | ibot | All hail Costco! |
| 23:24.17 | QBFreak | nooo! llama face! |
| 23:24.26 | lars-ut | lol |
| 23:24.27 | QBFreak | oh wait, that's Cusco |
| 23:24.56 | lars-ut | H20 |
| 23:25.02 | lars-ut | crap |
| 23:25.26 | QBFreak | you gotta admit, Cronk made the movie |
| 23:25.35 | lars-ut | Incredible voice |
| 23:25.55 | QBFreak | I think I heard he had his own groove movie out, but I havn;t seen it |
| 23:26.07 | Jayce^ | lars-ut, you have the dvd rips of the live version? |
| 23:26.20 | lars-ut | not yet |
| 23:26.55 | Jayce^ | same here.. |
| 23:26.58 | Jayce^ | we wantssss them |
| 23:34.27 | atoponce | QBFreak: it sux |
| 23:34.40 | atoponce | i have it |
| 23:34.52 | QBFreak | heh ok |
| 23:35.19 | atoponce | love kronk, though |
| 23:36.33 | QBFreak | IMO a sequal should attempt to be better than the first, not ruin the good name of the original |
| 23:36.53 | atoponce | definitely |
| 23:37.22 | QBFreak | disney is bad about just trying to make money off the sequals |
| 23:37.33 | QBFreak | they wanted a Toy Story 3... |
| 23:37.46 | atoponce | heard they weren't running that |
| 23:37.53 | atoponce | which is good |
| 23:37.57 | QBFreak | yeah, Pixar said no way |
| 23:38.03 | atoponce | good for them |
| 23:38.04 | QBFreak | and that made me happy |
| 23:38.08 | atoponce | ~praise pixar |
| 23:38.09 | ibot | All hail pixar! |
| 23:38.15 | tensai | well now Pixar is Disney, so they have no choice |
| 23:38.28 | QBFreak | actually that was how they killed it if I heard correctly |
| 23:40.13 | findlay | one of my best friends is at Pixar and she says that pixar and disney are still completely seperate |
| 23:40.21 | sjansen | ~lart emcnabb |
| 23:40.29 | atoponce | pixar should by disney |
| 23:40.34 | sjansen | bah, I knew I should have done ~lart elg |
| 23:40.35 | atoponce | that would make my day |
| 23:40.41 | sjansen | woulda been so apropos |
| 23:40.47 | emcnabb | sjansen: you should be working right now! |
| 23:40.54 | findlay | ~work |
| 23:40.57 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively. |
| 23:41.08 | sjansen | emcnabb: blessed troubleshooting labs |
| 23:41.16 | emcnabb | ah, I see |
| 23:41.21 | emcnabb | where are you at this week? |
| 23:41.22 | sjansen | (although, techincally, I should be drivinig to the cheesecake factory right now) |
| 23:41.33 | sjansen | kansas city |
| 23:42.16 | *** join/#utah ^Migs^ (n=Stuff@71-37-66-168.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 23:43.40 | tensai | sjansen: bring me back some ribs |
| 23:43.55 | findlay | my cousin is in Kansas City |
| 23:44.12 | findlay | at some desk job with the USMC |
| 23:44.38 | tensai | findlay: are you offering for your cousin to send us all ribs? |
| 23:44.44 | findlay | sure |
| 23:45.10 | QBFreak | can I get a burger? |
| 23:46.13 | QBFreak | mmm |
| 23:46.28 | tensai | I'm copying one I ate in Wyoming last week with a nice roasted anaheim pepper |
| 23:46.55 | QBFreak | where are you? *pulls up a map* |
| 23:49.47 | ^Migs^ | does anyone here actually live IN Utah? |
| 23:50.25 | QBFreak | um |
| 23:50.26 | atoponce | ^Migs^: depends. it's al relative. :) |
| 23:51.59 | findlay | I live somewhere, I think |
| 23:52.32 | atoponce | what if you were moving at or close to the speed of light? |
| 23:52.59 | findlay | can't move at c if you have mass |
| 23:53.26 | ^Migs^ | that's why he said close to |
| 23:53.32 | QBFreak | what about Warp 10? |
| 23:53.38 | ^Migs^ | that's different |
| 23:53.39 | atoponce | okay, so what about c-1/c? |
| 23:53.43 | ^Migs^ | then you're dealing with subspace |
| 23:53.44 | findlay | stupid netbios |
| 23:55.14 | findlay | supposedly tachyons have negative mass and can't move at less than the speed of light |
| 23:55.56 | atoponce | so, would that be like, anti-matter? |
| 23:56.01 | ^Migs^ | no |
| 23:56.03 | findlay | no |
| 23:56.14 | findlay | anti matter has opposite spin and charge |
| 23:56.14 | ^Migs^ | http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae257.cfm |
| 23:56.16 | findlay | that's all |
| 23:57.03 | atoponce | but math... |
| 23:57.10 | ^Migs^ | I used to be good at math |
| 23:57.12 | ^Migs^ | I think I suck now |
| 23:58.19 | atoponce | subspace is just a vector is the same direction and dimention as the original space (vector) |
| 23:59.14 | ^Migs^ | but "compressed" |
| 23:59.54 | atoponce | so, the greater the warp, the more the compression? |
| 23:59.59 | atoponce | talk about a diet! |
