| 00:00.41 | jsmith | xbmodder1: Duke Nukem Forever! |
| 00:01.32 | elg | that ad's pretty funny, but it'll get a lot better response if your wife writes it |
| 00:01.38 | elg | or at least sounds like your wife wrote it |
| 00:01.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 00:02.18 | xbmodder_lappy | mmh |
| 00:06.03 | ^Migs^ | crap, I already found someone interested. |
| 00:07.27 | harleypig | who is running the openclue.org/ut site? There is no contact info (like, I want to add my blog). |
| 00:07.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ^Migs^, whoa. |
| 00:08.33 | ^Migs^ | I have the feeling she may be an overeater, though |
| 00:08.38 | ^Migs^ | so that's no good |
| 00:08.40 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 00:08.49 | harleypig | why does she have to be anorexic? |
| 00:08.50 | ^Migs^ | just in another chat room |
| 00:09.00 | ^Migs^ | because I'm feeding her. |
| 00:09.05 | ScytheBlade1 | It really is too bad that you're not accepting males who will eat and eat and eat ;P |
| 00:09.09 | levi | elg: Have you tried out Quartz Composer? |
| 00:09.27 | elg | no, what's that? something to do with osx' window manager? |
| 00:09.28 | ^Migs^ | well, if you pay for your own food, but I think that would just end up being awkward, denying food to someone when they're living in my house |
| 00:09.54 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, what are you doing? |
| 00:10.01 | levi | No, it's a graphical programming system for doing cool effects with Quartz. And you can use the resulting effects as screen savers. |
| 00:10.02 | ^Migs^ | I'm hiring a slave |
| 00:10.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I know it's not an option, but still, considering I'm *living* on your bill, I wouldn't feel bad about providing my own food of all things. |
| 00:10.12 | xbmodder_lappy | ppj |
| 00:10.17 | levi | elg: I posted a link to it earlier today... |
| 00:10.20 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, but you gotta pay the slave? |
| 00:10.22 | levi | ~links |
| 00:10.23 | ibot | Lynx-like text WWW browser. URL: http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/ |
| 00:10.23 | ^Migs^ | yeah see, I need to make sure I find someone who's considerate like you, Scythe. Kind of like a female version of Scythe. |
| 00:10.26 | brac | [Links home page] |
| 00:10.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 00:10.29 | ^Migs^ | no, Im' not payin g the slave. |
| 00:10.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm telling you, move over to the U area |
| 00:10.40 | elg | graphics and I get along better when I just look |
| 00:10.46 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I've only got 6 sisters... I know how to work with kids |
| 00:10.52 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, are you feeding it? |
| 00:10.52 | ^Migs^ | they will be GRATEFUL I give them free room and board. In exchange, they keep my house clean. |
| 00:11.02 | elg | -urls |
| 00:11.02 | brac | [2006/03/23 17:10:25] <ibot> http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/ |
| 00:11.02 | brac | [2006/03/23 16:48:35] <elg> http://opentaxsolver.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:11.02 | brac | [2006/03/23 16:12:46] <jlp_work> http://www.af.mil/ |
| 00:11.02 | brac | [2006/03/23 15:56:55] <jlp_work> http://www.esquire.com/features/articles/2005/050325_mfe_colby_1.html |
| 00:11.10 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, how big is your house? |
| 00:11.11 | ^Migs^ | yes. It's a free bedroom, free cable tV, free DSL, all utilities paid. |
| 00:11.17 | ^Migs^ | about 2800 sq ft |
| 00:11.27 | ^Migs^ | I have an extra bedroom in the basement, and I'd be willing to finish the bathroom down there |
| 00:11.37 | ^Migs^ | I've been meaning to do that anyway |
| 00:11.45 | levi | elg: http://www.zugakousaku.com/index.cgi?quartz&&en |
| 00:11.47 | brac | [Futurismo Zugakousaku] |
| 00:11.48 | ScytheBlade1 | That's always good motivation for it |
| 00:12.03 | ScytheBlade1 | "Yeah... sure, have the basement, but the bathroom isn't finished, so... have fun trying?" |
| 00:12.10 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, and are you married? |
| 00:12.12 | ^Migs^ | yes |
| 00:12.25 | levi | elg: Download one of those and double-click it to open it up in Quartz Composer. |
| 00:12.28 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, does your wife approve of this? |
| 00:12.35 | ^Migs^ | yes, we're all gun-ho about it |
| 00:12.40 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 00:12.48 | xbmodder_lappy | This should be interesting... |
| 00:13.04 | ScytheBlade1 | You missed the paper ad that we've made up, xbmodder_lappy |
| 00:13.10 | ScytheBlade1 | "Looking for a homely, anorexic college girl to clean my house. Have wife and kids. All services provided for free in exchange for a clean house. Free room and board, food, internet. Psychotics need not apply, nor homely girls with homely boyfriends. Located 10 minutes from Weber State, in a small suburb." |
| 00:13.55 | harleypig | I think the homely part will keep a lot of potential suplicants away. |
| 00:14.02 | harleypig | err ... applicants. |
| 00:14.11 | ^Migs^ | here's the ad my wife made: "FREE ROOM & Board, cable TV, DSL & meals in exchange for services. WANTED: Housekeeper/nanny for LDS family. Female 18-25, must be energetic and love children. Mainly housecleaning, occasional babysitting for 2 toddlers. Child care experience preferred. 20 minutes from WSU." |
| 00:15.13 | ^Migs^ | I can't believe we're actually doing this. It's so....unconventional. |
| 00:15.49 | xbmodder_lappy | kids, how old? |
| 00:16.01 | ^Migs^ | 3 and 1 |
| 00:16.09 | xbmodder_lappy | oh... |
| 00:16.16 | ^Migs^ | my wife will be home, too |
| 00:16.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm telling you, move to the near vicinity of the U and accept males |
| 00:16.23 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, keep a blog. become a internet celebrity. |
| 00:16.37 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah, why no males allowed? |
| 00:16.45 | ScytheBlade1 | wife and kids alone at home |
| 00:16.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Having a college student home with them alone is kinda... yeah |
| 00:17.07 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, he could get a really scrawny geeky guy... |
| 00:17.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Having a *male college student home with them alone is kinda... yeah |
| 00:17.13 | ScytheBlade1 | That's motivating |
| 00:17.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Using his DSL for porn |
| 00:17.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ..... ;P |
| 00:17.26 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, Are they allowed to have boyfriends? |
| 00:17.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Read the ad |
| 00:17.37 | ScytheBlade1 | " Psychotics need not apply, nor homely girls with homely boyfriends." |
| 00:17.42 | ^Migs^ | well yeah |
| 00:17.50 | xbmodder_lappy | only homely boyfriends |
| 00:17.57 | xbmodder_lappy | it could be a outgoing boyfriend... |
| 00:18.11 | xbmodder_lappy | I should apply... |
| 00:18.19 | ScytheBlade1 | You're male |
| 00:18.22 | xbmodder_lappy | maybe I can get like a temporary sex change. |
| 00:18.22 | ScytheBlade1 | And in a different state |
| 00:18.28 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, free DSL |
| 00:18.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Not to mention you're not even applying to colleges yes |
| 00:18.34 | ScytheBlade1 | *yet |
| 00:18.36 | xbmodder_lappy | its Xmission fiber... |
| 00:19.19 | xbmodder_lappy | I like his wife's ad alot better |
| 00:19.33 | ScytheBlade1 | You know that mine is funnier though |
| 00:20.15 | xbmodder_lappy | how about PPV |
| 00:20.21 | xbmodder_lappy | what is its PPV allowance? |
| 00:20.29 | ^Migs^ | no, no allowance |
| 00:20.34 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 00:20.35 | ^Migs^ | they can get a part-time job on the side |
| 00:20.42 | ^Migs^ | it's NOT hard what they have to do |
| 00:20.47 | ^Migs^ | just help out around the house a little |
| 00:20.56 | ^Migs^ | it's like a friend of the family who moves in and helps out. |
| 00:21.02 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah.. |
| 00:21.04 | xbmodder_lappy | sort of. |
| 00:21.12 | ^Migs^ | except we're MAKING a friend |
| 00:21.21 | xbmodder_lappy | because you don't have any? |
| 00:21.26 | ^Migs^ | kinda |
| 00:21.30 | xbmodder_lappy | or is there another reason... |
| 00:21.33 | ^Migs^ | we're antisocial, and we don't want a socialite moving in |
| 00:21.51 | ^Migs^ | the reason is that it makes no sense to clean our house when we can sucker a college kid into doing it for free |
| 00:22.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ^Migs^, I even come with my own *headphones*, not a stereo. :) |
| 00:22.25 | ^Migs^ | very nice |
| 00:22.37 | ^Migs^ | although we wouldn't hear anything in the basement anyway at night |
| 00:22.46 | ^Migs^ | see, I need to find the female version of ScytheBlade |
| 00:22.49 | xbmodder_lappy | is there a T.V. in the basement? |
| 00:22.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:22.53 | ^Migs^ | actually yes |
| 00:22.54 | ^Migs^ | with a couch |
| 00:22.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Well thanks for the thought |
| 00:23.03 | ^Migs^ | there's a bedroom off that room |
| 00:23.06 | ScytheBlade1 | But still, I'm telling you, move closer to the U and accept males ;) |
| 00:23.07 | ^Migs^ | plus I'm going to finish a bathroom down there |
| 00:23.11 | xbmodder_lappy | A nice comfy couch? |
| 00:23.11 | ^Migs^ | dangit, no |
| 00:23.14 | ^Migs^ | yes, VERY comfy |
| 00:23.31 | ^Migs^ | you could bring a TV into your room if you want. There's cable outlets. |
| 00:23.41 | xbmodder_lappy | what if the throw a party? |
| 00:23.42 | ^Migs^ | and I'll GIVE you a wireless card if you don't have one to connect to our DSL line |
| 00:23.49 | ^Migs^ | just give advance notice, and we'll get out of your hair |
| 00:23.54 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 00:23.59 | ^Migs^ | after all, you'd be cleaning up after the party |
| 00:24.11 | xbmodder_lappy | but the noise |
| 00:24.21 | xbmodder_lappy | and toddler+party = ad |
| 00:24.22 | xbmodder_lappy | bad |
| 00:24.29 | ^Migs^ | well, we'd take the kids with us |
| 00:24.44 | ^Migs^ | no drunken parties. We're a nice, respectful family. |
| 00:24.53 | ^Migs^ | just have friends over or whatever. |
| 00:25.04 | ^Migs^ | Man, the girl who does this would make all her friends jealous |
| 00:25.14 | xbmodder_lappy | Do you have a pool? |
| 00:25.14 | ^Migs^ | have a big house with a big backyard in a nice neighborhood, and she doesn't even have to pay for it |
| 00:25.26 | ^Migs^ | no, but the neighbors do |
| 00:25.27 | xbmodder_lappy | *d'oh* I forgot this was utah... |
| 00:25.38 | xbmodder_lappy | oooh |
| 00:25.39 | ^Migs^ | and everybody in our cul-de-sac shares everything. The trampolines, pool... |
| 00:25.41 | ^Migs^ | you just go over when you want |
| 00:25.50 | xbmodder_lappy | sounds... fun... |
| 00:26.03 | xbmodder_lappy | the boyfriend thing may be a problem though |
| 00:26.39 | ^Migs^ | well, they can come over, but they can't spend the night |
| 00:26.47 | ^Migs^ | I guess if you managed to do it without us knowing... |
| 00:27.04 | ^Migs^ | if the boyfriend is a gamer, that'd be really cool |
| 00:27.07 | ^Migs^ | I could have LAN parties with him |
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| 00:27.49 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 00:28.04 | xbmodder_lappy | If she was a gamer, and had gamer friends... |
| 00:28.12 | ^Migs^ | yeah, that'd be crazy |
| 00:28.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ^Migs^, I need a version of you who accepts males and lives close to the U, having a 'landlord' like you would be horribly nice |
| 00:28.15 | xbmodder_lappy | Then your wife would have to kick her out. |
| 00:28.35 | ^Migs^ | dude, I'd be a cool landlord, but don't call it landlord. I can't legally charge people for room and board with my mortgage agreement. |
| 00:28.42 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 00:28.52 | ^Migs^ | I really wouldn't care what she does, as long as it's not x-treme |
| 00:28.52 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, unless the do something stupid |
| 00:29.11 | ^Migs^ | yeah, then they're outta the basement |
| 00:30.27 | ^Migs^ | I also don't want someone who plays the piano really well, because I'm trying to put together a neoclassical piano album, and I don't want to be intimidated by someone better than me. |
| 00:31.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got two audition vocal choirs... |
| 00:31.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm telling you, move to the U and accept males |
| 00:31.36 | xbmodder_lappy | ehe |
| 00:31.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Two (very young) female siblings would be a walk in the park compared to the existing pre-teen 6 that I've got |
| 00:31.55 | levi | Heh, this is some wild advanced programming stuff: http://blog.moertel.com/articles/2005/09/13/scope-herding-with-delimited-continuations |
| 00:32.51 | ^Migs^ | dangit, I'm not moving to the U |
| 00:33.14 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, nor are you accepting males? |
| 00:33.56 | ^Migs^ | nah |
| 00:34.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Depressingly enough |
| 00:34.42 | ^Migs^ | sorry |
| 00:34.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 00:34.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, just kidding, I can see why the gender limitation |
| 00:35.00 | ScytheBlade1 | That said, I've gotta go to work for a bit |
| 00:35.24 | ScytheBlade1 | so bbl (and I really want to see that ad in the paper ;)) |
| 00:35.49 | xbmodder_lappy | It would be kind of scary having an X-Marine or something in the house |
| 00:36.03 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 00:36.06 | ^Migs^ | even a female ex-marine |
| 00:36.12 | ^Migs^ | heh |
| 00:36.22 | ^Migs^ | if we don't find anyone right away, we'll post an ad in the Standard Examiner |
| 00:36.24 | mheath | God, thats not a joke. |
| 00:36.30 | mheath | You haven't met one of these women |
| 00:36.32 | mheath | I have =O |
| 00:45.53 | mheath | Haha, Wow. |
| 00:46.09 | ^Migs^ | indeed |
| 00:57.24 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, I think your going to find someone pretty quick |
| 00:57.29 | xbmodder_lappy | Move to california |
| 00:57.37 | xbmodder_lappy | Near the berkeley campus |
| 00:57.51 | xbmodder_lappy | Then your house would be the size of a matchbox.. |
| 00:57.58 | xbmodder_lappy | and you wouldn't have to clean it.. |
| 01:00.23 | ^Migs^ | haha |
| 01:00.30 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I have a nice big house |
| 01:00.40 | ^Migs^ | and the neighbors are GREAT |
| 01:01.10 | xbmodder_lappy | In berkeley you can have a frat house be your neighbor... |
| 01:01.38 | xbmodder_lappy | and a nutty professor.. |
| 01:01.50 | ^Migs^ | bbl |
| 01:02.30 | xbmodder_lappy | bye |
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| 01:22.02 | TheDiff | i'm glad I wasn't here for that conversation |
| 01:27.55 | mheath | Indeed. |
| 01:28.04 | mheath | I really like this DS :) |
| 01:29.36 | mheath | But a lot of the games are disappointing |
| 01:29.52 | mheath | They range from nice, 3d, first person shooters to pathetic Gameboy-era graphics |
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| 02:00.11 | ^Migs^ | heh |
| 02:00.20 | ^Migs^ | I put up the notice at Weber State |
| 02:00.27 | ^Migs^ | I wonder if anyone'll call |
| 02:01.20 | mheath | Considering the usual population at Weber State, its unlikely. |
| 02:01.26 | TheDiff | haha |
| 02:01.41 | TheDiff | considering the girl will probably think you are child molestor, probably not |
| 02:01.41 | mheath | Most people living there are local |
| 02:01.52 | mheath | Either living at home, or have the option to live at home if they're that strapped for money. |
| 02:01.56 | TheDiff | thats why people dont usually have random strangers live in their house in exchange for 'services' |
| 02:02.35 | ^Migs^ | no I'm not. on the notice it says we're an "LDS family". That's bound to make people think positive thoughts. |
| 02:02.37 | ^Migs^ | or so I hope. |
| 02:02.51 | ^Migs^ | meh, it's worth trying |
| 02:02.54 | ^Migs^ | no harm in that |
| 02:03.52 | ^Migs^ | plenty of students live in student housing. It would be appealing to me, if I were still a college student paying for rent, to not have to pay for rent anymore. |
| 02:04.08 | TheDiff | yeah but its nice to have a contract |
| 02:04.12 | TheDiff | so that they can't just boot you out |
| 02:04.15 | TheDiff | becasue they feel like it |
| 02:04.37 | ^Migs^ | no, I reserve the right to boot them out if it's not working out for me |
| 02:04.41 | ^Migs^ | I'm doing THEM a favor |
| 02:04.44 | TheDiff | yeah i know, thats shady |
| 02:04.50 | ^Migs^ | it's MY house |
| 02:05.07 | TheDiff | i know, but there are still these things called "renters laws" |
| 02:05.16 | ^Migs^ | well, if I was a single person, I'd agree with TheDiff. But I'm married with kids. I'm less likely to be a child molestor if I'm married with kids |
| 02:05.23 | TheDiff | um |
| 02:05.27 | ^Migs^ | but I'm not charging them. |
| 02:05.32 | ^Migs^ | they're staying for FREE |
| 02:05.44 | TheDiff | i know, but i'm just telling you why some people might not go for it |
| 02:05.47 | ^Migs^ | thus, they are not renters |
| 02:06.01 | ^Migs^ | I think you underestimate the naivety of college girls |
| 02:06.17 | ^Migs^ | college kids in general are pretty stupid |
| 02:06.25 | TheDiff | when you are in college, and you need a place to stay, whether its free or not, its not nice knowing the roof over your head could be removed at any time |
| 02:06.34 | TheDiff | you might have a point there |
| 02:06.47 | ^Migs^ | I'm a cool "landlord." I'm not just going to dump them on the streets. There'd be a little leeway time in which I'd help them find another place. |
| 02:06.58 | QBFreak | have you considered that there might be some of these 'college kids' on the channel, the ones you're calling stupid :p |
| 02:07.04 | TheDiff | there is no guarantee for that |
| 02:07.11 | TheDiff | for them |
| 02:07.13 | maquis | ("that last comment" was referring to the one about college girls... |
| 02:07.13 | ^Migs^ | this is really to help my wife out. |
| 02:07.14 | maquis | ) |
| 02:07.20 | ^Migs^ | I'll be gone most of the day, or busy working |
| 02:07.26 | TheDiff | QBFreak: i'm a college kid, and i agree that most college kids are stupid |
| 02:07.35 | ^Migs^ | exactly why we'd meet with them first, maquis |
| 02:07.37 | TheDiff | i'm not one of them, thats why I wouldnt go for ^Migs^ deal |
| 02:07.42 | ^Migs^ | okay |
| 02:07.43 | QBFreak | sadly, most of the ones I encountered were too... |
| 02:07.43 | maquis | ^Migs^: still... |
| 02:07.49 | ^Migs^ | so basically the only objection you'd have is that I might be a pervert? |
| 02:07.54 | ^Migs^ | hmm, maybe I should shave before meeting them |
| 02:08.00 | ^Migs^ | and get a haircut |
| 02:08.12 | maquis | ^Migs^: just saying that a lot of girls would probably have that concern |
| 02:08.18 | TheDiff | 1) pervert |
| 02:08.26 | TheDiff | 2) shady, your deal might not be for real |
| 02:08.34 | ^Migs^ | hmmm |
| 02:08.36 | TheDiff | 3) you might just be a jerk and kick people out because you feel like it |
| 02:08.41 | ^Migs^ | I should've put "I'M NOT A PERVERT" on the notice |
| 02:08.48 | TheDiff | 4) people might be concerned about the lack of security not having a contract |
| 02:09.08 | ^Migs^ | it depends on how you look at this. You could also look at it as us just trying to find a friend to help us out in our time of need. |
| 02:09.08 | TheDiff | 5) people might be concerned that they might upset your wife/kids and thus get kicked out |
| 02:09.08 | maquis | ^Migs^: also, i think people have a tendency to distrust deals that appear too good |
| 02:09.14 | TheDiff | 6) they might be concerned about their privacy |
| 02:09.15 | ^Migs^ | the friend moves in, helps out around the house a little. |
| 02:09.25 | ^Migs^ | this isn't "too good." It would help us immensely. |
| 02:09.37 | TheDiff | yeah and it might work out great |
| 02:09.38 | ^Migs^ | it's just coincidental that it would enormously help out the college girl |
| 02:09.44 | TheDiff | i'm just saying that theres alot of things to consider |
| 02:09.48 | ^Migs^ | I think it could work out great. We're going to say we'll give them a month as a trial |
| 02:09.52 | ^Migs^ | is that fair? |
| 02:10.00 | TheDiff | and the label LDS doesnt mean anythign to me when judging people character |
| 02:10.08 | ^Migs^ | yeah, it doesn't to me either, TheDiff |
| 02:10.16 | ^Migs^ | I just thought it'd be a good start to post it at Weber State's Institute |
| 02:10.32 | ^Migs^ | what I DON'T want in my house is drunken parties or boyfriends coming over and spending the night |
| 02:10.37 | TheDiff | well my suggestion to you is that I would write up some kind of contract |
| 02:10.39 | ^Migs^ | that's the tradeoff |
| 02:10.42 | TheDiff | even if they arent paying rent |
| 02:10.44 | TheDiff | they could still have one |
| 02:10.49 | TheDiff | and it will outline what you expect from them |
| 02:10.52 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I should write up a contract. |
| 02:10.54 | TheDiff | and what they should expect from you |
| 02:10.56 | maquis | and what they can expect from you |
| 02:11.01 | ^Migs^ | I barely expect anything from them. |
| 02:11.11 | ^Migs^ | just clean up after my kids when they ransack my house. |
| 02:11.17 | TheDiff | and thats fine, as long as its in writing for them they feel safer |
| 02:11.18 | ^Migs^ | give us a break from the chaos |
| 02:11.23 | ^Migs^ | hmmm, okay |
| 02:11.28 | maquis | so, they know "if i clean the house, i don't have to be worried about getting kicked out" |
| 02:11.37 | ^Migs^ | problem with that. I can't legally have renters. |
| 02:11.40 | ^Migs^ | and possibly tenants. |
| 02:11.50 | ^Migs^ | this would have to be approached as a friend who is obligated to help out. |
| 02:12.16 | ^Migs^ | I'm really going to have to go over my homeowners agreements to make sure about this, as I'm still paying mortgages |
| 02:12.23 | ^Migs^ | paying for the mortgage, I mean |
| 02:12.38 | ^Migs^ | I think it's a brilliant idea, really, if it works. |
| 02:12.44 | ^Migs^ | it's a win-win situation for everyone |
| 02:13.05 | TheDiff | just get some child development major |
| 02:13.09 | TheDiff | it will be like having a nanny |
| 02:13.12 | ^Migs^ | that's the plan :) |
| 02:13.19 | ^Migs^ | we put "child care experience preferred" |
| 02:13.24 | TheDiff | they dont have anything better to do anyways |
| 02:13.35 | ^Migs^ | all the girls in Utah are child care majors, elementary education majors, and social work majors anyway |
| 02:13.38 | TheDiff | mortgage agreements can do anythign they want |
| 02:13.42 | TheDiff | because lenders are bastards |
| 02:13.49 | TheDiff | ahha |
| 02:13.52 | TheDiff | thats funny to me |
| 02:14.03 | ^Migs^ | it makes sense. You can't make money off leasing out your property while you still don't technically own it. |
| 02:14.19 | TheDiff | maquis: its okay, he means all the LDS girls |
| 02:14.21 | TheDiff | haha |
| 02:14.25 | ^Migs^ | yeah, LDS girls |
| 02:14.28 | ^Migs^ | normal girls do whatever they want |
| 02:14.32 | maquis | TheDiff: erm... still |
| 02:14.37 | TheDiff | hahaha |
| 02:14.44 | ^Migs^ | hehe |
| 02:14.45 | QBFreak | maquis: forget them, you know what the song says, "We are nerds, we rule the world" |
| 02:14.51 | maquis | QBFreak: true |
| 02:14.56 | ^Migs^ | I wouldn't let you into my home, maquis. You're too unruly. |
| 02:15.03 | TheDiff | you can't deny the church has an idea in their head of what the role women in the church should be |
| 02:15.05 | maquis | haha |
| 02:15.06 | ^Migs^ | that was a joke anyway, maquis :) |
| 02:15.39 | TheDiff | that was badly phrased, but you get my point |
| 02:15.44 | maquis | TheDiff: my experience is that the church has an idea, but most church members don't understand what the church's idea actually is |
| 02:15.55 | TheDiff | thats true of all religions |
| 02:16.43 | maquis | we've had some church leaders come and talk to the girls in math and science majors here, all of whom said very differently from what i think you'd expect regarding that |
| 02:17.32 | TheDiff | well then they were telling you things very different from what I heard from church leaders |
| 02:18.41 | ^Migs^ | the Proclamation on the Family states the official position quite well, but women are also encouraged to seek an education for their own benefit if they can |
| 02:19.12 | TheDiff | do they still get to tithe a full 10% :) |
| 02:19.27 | maquis | ?? |
| 02:19.31 | ^Migs^ | ??? |
| 02:20.03 | ^Migs^ | I think you're just trying to be controversial, TheDiff :) |
| 02:20.27 | TheDiff | perhaps |
| 02:20.47 | TheDiff | the church seemed to have a vendetta against my family |
| 02:21.00 | TheDiff | and I therefore have a vendetta against the church |
| 02:21.18 | maquis | i don't see why the church has a vendetta against anyone... but whatever |
| 02:21.40 | ^Migs^ | I agree with maquis |
| 02:22.00 | ^Migs^ | maybe you mean you just found a person or two in the Church disagreeable, TheDiff. Is that what you mean? |
| 02:22.06 | TheDiff | because religion is about control of beliefs |
| 02:22.11 | ^Migs^ | like a bishop or an elder's quorum president. |
| 02:22.14 | goozbach | DSPAM!!!! |
| 02:22.30 | maquis | religion isn't about control of beliefs... it's about beliefs |
| 02:22.37 | ^Migs^ | people are free to choose what to believe in most religions, and are welcome to leave at any time. That's hardly "controlling." |
| 02:22.44 | TheDiff | they blacklist those who they consider a danger to the way they are viewed by the public |
| 02:22.44 | ^Migs^ | MOST |
| 02:22.57 | maquis | the church is a collection of people who have similar beliefs... not identical, but similar |
| 02:22.59 | QBFreak | TheDiff: I've never seen that |
| 02:23.01 | maquis | blacklist? |
| 02:23.02 | ^Migs^ | oh I see. Someone in your family got excommunicated? |
| 02:23.08 | TheDiff | and the mormon church blacklists people in utah who they dont like |
| 02:23.15 | TheDiff | no one in my family was excommunicated |
| 02:23.22 | ^Migs^ | um |
| 02:23.23 | TheDiff | my dad is still a member of the LDS church |
| 02:23.26 | goozbach | let's change the subject |
| 02:23.30 | ^Migs^ | so who exactly was "blacklisted"? |
| 02:23.32 | QBFreak | good idea |
| 02:23.38 | goozbach | let's change the subject |
| 02:23.38 | maquis | goozbach: good idea... |
| 02:23.41 | QBFreak | before argument breaks out :) |
| 02:23.42 | TheDiff | haha |
| 02:23.44 | TheDiff | scurred |
| 02:23.53 | ^Migs^ | I think you're referring more to the "Mormon Utah culture" rather than the "mormon church" itself |
| 02:23.57 | *** join/#utah levi (n=levi@levi.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 02:24.07 | ^Migs^ | granted, some LDS in Utah can be rather judgmental and gossippy (that's not unique to the LDS Church though) |
| 02:24.14 | goozbach | let's change the subject |
| 02:24.17 | ^Migs^ | is that what you mean, TheDiff? |
| 02:24.29 | TheDiff | no, thats not at all what i mean |
| 02:24.34 | TheDiff | but no one wants to talk about it |
| 02:24.36 | ^Migs^ | the Church itself does not "blacklist" people. It encourages people to repent, become better people, and come unto God. |
| 02:24.37 | TheDiff | so its cool |
| 02:24.52 | ^Migs^ | boy, this is offtopic |
| 02:25.06 | maquis | ^Migs^: there's a topic? |
| 02:25.13 | goozbach | if you want to continue this topic of discussion please take it elsewhere |
| 02:25.26 | ^Migs^ | makes sense |
| 02:25.35 | levi | Oh boy, looks like I came back at just the right time. ;) |
| 02:25.50 | ^Migs^ | kind of a pointless discussion anyway |
| 02:25.51 | maquis | the reason goozbach is being careful with this topic (since i don't think either of you have been here for previous incarnations of similar discussions) is that we've had some problems with these types of discussions getting out of hand |
| 02:25.59 | ^Migs^ | ah okay |
| 02:26.04 | goozbach | rather quickly I might add |
| 02:26.05 | ^Migs^ | sorry I kept asking questions |
| 02:26.07 | maquis | so, it's nothing personal against either of you |
| 02:26.17 | maquis | yes |
| 02:26.18 | goozbach | maquis: thanks for explaining for me |
| 02:26.22 | ^Migs^ | I didn't mean to get too personal, TheDiff. My apologies. |
| 02:26.30 | maquis | goozbach: np... just wanted to make sure it was clear to everyone... :) |
| 02:28.48 | goozbach | it's not personal |
| 02:28.57 | goozbach | nor am I trying to censor anyone |
| 02:29.55 | goozbach | it's just that (in the past) we've had some hotheads take similar threads and get into stuff that the majority here don't want discussed here |
| 02:30.41 | ^Migs^ | we've all moved on now, goozbach |
| 02:30.45 | maquis | ~buckybot goozbach |
| 02:30.46 | ibot | goozbach: you're a stupid idiot, and I can tell you that all I want, but if you say anything mean to me, I'll start crying and insulting everything I can, because you're discriminating against me! |
| 02:30.46 | ^Migs^ | and you've explained the issues very well |
| 02:31.08 | goozbach | thank you |
| 02:31.18 | maquis | :) |
| 02:31.42 | goozbach | I got the RPM built |
| 02:31.48 | maquis | cool! |
| 02:31.59 | maquis | you wanna figure out why my tcp is broken? |
| 02:32.05 | maquis | or what i was trying to do in this one line? |
| 02:32.09 | goozbach | now the blasted thing isn't comunicating over LMTP to cyrus however |
| 02:32.29 | QBFreak | or why one machine can't resolve local hostnames but is fine with the other DNS servers |
| 02:33.39 | maquis | today, while i was in class, i discovered a line in my code that says: |
| 02:33.53 | maquis | self.num_in_send_window = self.num_in_send_window |
| 02:34.09 | ^Migs^ | that would make me suicidal |
| 02:34.11 | maquis | i sat there trying to figure out *what* i was thinking when i wrote that |
| 02:34.13 | levi | maquis: Nice. |
| 02:34.17 | QBFreak | you wouldn't want it to forget the value |
| 02:34.18 | maquis | levi: thanks :) |
| 02:34.38 | maquis | QBFreak: uh... yeah.. :) |
| 02:36.16 | QBFreak | I remember reading somewhere about someone who saw code like that, asked the author what he was thinking "well, I didn't want it to forget" |
| 02:36.41 | maquis | that was probably someplace like rinkworks.com/stupid |
| 02:38.23 | levi | QBFreak: More like Haskell-speak to English |
| 02:38.36 | levi | QBFreak: Or category theory-speak to English |
| 02:39.02 | levi | It's basically a spiffy way to write a parser. |
| 02:39.23 | ^Migs^ | hey ScytheBlade, I put the notice up :) |
| 02:39.25 | levi | Incidentally, the same one Audrey Tang used to write Pugs. |
| 02:39.30 | QBFreak | I suppose if I looked up monadic I might understand |
| 02:39.34 | ^Migs^ | I bet I'll have college girls beating down my door now |
| 02:39.58 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 02:39.59 | ScytheBlade1 | where at? |
| 02:40.25 | QBFreak | I think my head is breaking |
| 02:40.44 | ^Migs^ | well, I started at the Weber State's LDS Institute. If we just get a bunch of weirdos, I'll put an ad in the paper |
| 02:40.55 | ^Migs^ | this might be funny |
| 02:41.06 | ScytheBlade1 | You should video record the interviews without them knowing |
| 02:41.10 | ScytheBlade1 | and stick it on YouTube |
| 02:41.11 | ^Migs^ | they'll probably run screaming once they see the mess in the house |
| 02:41.13 | QBFreak | is that legal? |
| 02:41.13 | ^Migs^ | great idea! |
| 02:41.26 | ^Migs^ | recording people without their knowledge? Yes, it is, actually. |
| 02:41.47 | QBFreak | hmm, I thought you couldn't record conversations without consent, maybe that's just telephone (FCC) |
| 02:41.50 | levi | QBFreak: This is the article I'm reading: http://blog.moertel.com/articles/2005/08/27/power-parsing-with-haskell-and-parsec |
| 02:42.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Come on ^Migs^, you know you want my creative genius and manual labor ;) |
| 02:42.06 | ^Migs^ | so I can't take a video camera to a public place because I'll inadvertently record people? |
| 02:42.21 | ^Migs^ | yeah. We could CODE together! |
| 02:42.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Depends |
| 02:42.29 | ScytheBlade1 | What do you code? -.- |
| 02:42.30 | ^Migs^ | ZOMG |
| 02:42.35 | QBFreak | I imagine if such a law exists, it would be regarding intentional recording |
| 02:42.38 | ^Migs^ | um, PHP and MySQL, and some Java |
| 02:42.41 | ScytheBlade1 | ! |
| 02:42.47 | ScytheBlade1 | That's why I was at UVSC |
| 02:42.52 | ^Migs^ | ZO |
| 02:42.53 | ^Migs^ | M |
| 02:42.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Web Design competition for TSA |
| 02:42.53 | ^Migs^ | G |
| 02:43.03 | goozbach | glad I'm moving |
| 02:43.05 | ^Migs^ | how could we NOT have you move in!?!?!?!?! |
| 02:43.08 | goozbach | there's ants all over |
| 02:43.12 | ^Migs^ | meh, we have ants too |
| 02:43.16 | ^Migs^ | dumb ants |
| 02:43.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably the gender factor |
| 02:43.21 | ^Migs^ | oh right, that |
| 02:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 02:43.25 | goozbach | climbing up my legs |
| 02:43.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Details suck |
| 02:43.29 | ^Migs^ | curse you and your chromosomes |
| 02:43.31 | goozbach | biting me |
| 02:43.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Blame my dad |
| 02:43.45 | ^Migs^ | yeah, he passed on all those "male genes" |
| 02:43.52 | ^Migs^ | if he wasn't male, there's no way you would've been born a man |
| 02:44.01 | maquis | erm.... |
| 02:44.03 | ScytheBlade1 | It's true |
| 02:44.03 | ^Migs^ | haha |
| 02:44.12 | ^Migs^ | seriously, what was false about that statement, maquis? |
| 02:44.24 | maquis | ^Migs^: nothing... just looked at the wrong time :) |
| 02:44.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Not only do I come with my own headphones, I come with my own custom-built embedded linux router! Custom distro! |
| 02:44.41 | ^Migs^ | I need a new router |
| 02:45.07 | ^Migs^ | well, my house just runs on a wireless network |
| 02:45.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, and for your wife, out of 6 possible years serving in a quorum presidency, I've served 4.75 years, over half of that as president |
| 02:45.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Come on ;) |
| 02:45.14 | maquis | http://rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_revenge.shtml#1 |
| 02:45.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 02:45.23 | QBFreak | custom built? or custom code? |
| 02:45.32 | ScytheBlade1 | (I know you won't, but hey, what do I have to lose?) |
| 02:45.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Custom code, kinda |
| 02:45.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Customized gentoo |
| 02:45.58 | ScytheBlade1 | The board *is* an embedded board thougyh |
| 02:46.00 | maquis | that is one of the funniest things i've read in a while (the rinkworks link) |
| 02:46.00 | ScytheBlade1 | *though |
| 02:46.03 | QBFreak | you said custom built :p |
| 02:46.07 | ScytheBlade1 | The OS is! |
| 02:46.24 | ScytheBlade1 | And I installed a mini PCI card, and drilled an additional hole in the case for an additional wifi antenna |
| 02:46.25 | QBFreak | "custom-built embedded linux router!" |
| 02:46.27 | ^Migs^ | you're at the U |
| 02:46.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Or will be, anyways |
| 02:46.40 | ^Migs^ | I REALLY just don't want another guy in the house |
| 02:46.46 | ^Migs^ | my wife is a hottie |
| 02:46.47 | xbmodder_lappy | http://control.atarack.com/xenControl/index.py?action=turnon&confirm=1 |
| 02:46.48 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:46.49 | brac | [Reloading] |
| 02:46.51 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, .... |
| 02:46.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, since I hit on married women |
| 02:46.57 | *** part/#utah linuxalien (n=linuxali@host-73.colo.spiretech.com) |
| 02:47.03 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 02:47.09 | ScytheBlade1 | A seminary teacher in my building calls his wife "MegaBabe" actually |
| 02:47.16 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, doesn't every guy want that? |
| 02:48.09 | ScytheBlade1 | "And what does a MegaBabe do? Make MegaBabe children!" |
| 02:48.09 | xbmodder_lappy | A hot wife... |
| 02:48.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Funniest thing I've heard from a seminary teacher in a while |
| 02:48.48 | ^Migs^ | I had some funny seminary teachers |
| 02:48.55 | ^Migs^ | good times |
| 02:49.14 | ^Migs^ | ScytheBlade, I dunno, if you wanna come and interview, feel free |
| 02:49.23 | ^Migs^ | it's up to my wife |
| 02:49.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
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| 02:49.54 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 02:49.56 | *** join/#utah spr (n=spr@ramona.cs.byu.edu) |
| 02:50.00 | ^Migs^ | but you're at the U, so that kinda sucks |
| 02:50.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:50.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Hour drive from my house to weber state |
| 02:50.11 | ^Migs^ | which is the only reason I said you could come, because I knew you wouldn't |
| 02:50.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, forget that |
| 02:50.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm telling you, move further north |
| 02:51.08 | ^Migs^ | then our house probably wouldn't be ideal for an extra resident |
| 02:51.14 | ^Migs^ | we have a nice cozy little bedroom in the basement |
| 02:51.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't need much space |
| 02:51.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean, I'm hanging out in #utah on IRC |
| 02:51.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Not like I have four suitcases of clothes ;) |
| 02:51.37 | ScytheBlade1 | brb |
| 02:51.41 | ^Migs^ | don't you mean move further south? |
| 02:51.47 | ^Migs^ | I work in Harrisville, so I can't move further south |
| 02:51.57 | ^Migs^ | hmm |
| 02:52.09 | ^Migs^ | the closet area has of shelves, but not much room for hanging stuff |
| 02:52.13 | ^Migs^ | *has lots |
| 02:52.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Ouch |
| 02:52.40 | ScytheBlade1 | (@ your job location) |
| 02:52.51 | ^Migs^ | why is that bad? |
| 02:53.04 | ^Migs^ | I don't have to fight the horrible traffic from Ogden-Salt Lake City |
| 02:53.16 | ^Migs^ | I used to live IN Harrisville |
| 02:53.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, I'm backwards |
| 02:53.31 | ^Migs^ | but back then I was working in Kaysville, so we moved to Roy, thinking we'd be closer. Then I got a job in Harrisville. Go fig. |
| 02:53.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:53.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice |
| 02:54.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Convince the state to extend TRAX to your front doorstep and I'll come for an interview ;) |
| 02:54.19 | ScytheBlade1 | If you post it on youtube though, I'll have to kill you, just a heads up |
| 02:56.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I really do want to hear the fun stories you get out of this though |
| 02:57.48 | TheDiff | HOLY CRAP |
| 02:57.50 | TheDiff | JOINS ARE AMAZING |
| 02:57.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:57.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, yes they are |
| 02:58.08 | TheDiff | sql makes me hot |
| 03:01.26 | goozbach | DSPAM is ALMOST working!!! |
| 03:01.50 | ScytheBlade1 | *That* is an impressive feat |
| 03:01.50 | goozbach | I'm going to back up this rpm when I'm done like 23 different places |
| 03:02.15 | goozbach | I've got dspam set up as a content filter for postfix |
| 03:02.47 | goozbach | so it's marking the email as spam even before local has a hold of it |
| 03:03.13 | goozbach | and dspam is re-injecting it to postfix |
| 03:03.38 | goozbach | so it goes: internet -> postfix -> dspam -> postfix-> cyrus |
| 03:04.00 | goozbach | dspam is pretty powerfull |
| 03:04.25 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 03:04.33 | xbmodder_lappy | Are you using gentoo? |
| 03:05.25 | goozbach | RHEL4 |
| 03:06.42 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 03:06.45 | xbmodder_lappy | *CRY* |
| 03:06.51 | xbmodder_lappy | I broke into tears just now... |
| 03:07.15 | goozbach | gentoo should already have an ebuild |
| 03:07.23 | goozbach | buildning from source it pretty easy |
| 03:07.36 | goozbach | the defaults from dspam don't get along with rpm |
| 03:07.38 | QBFreak | xbmodder_lappy: is RH that bad? |
| 03:07.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 03:07.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Application Term: Fall 2006 |
| 03:07.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Application Status: Admitted |
| 03:07.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I win |
| 03:08.39 | ^Migs^ | ScytheBlade: I doubt this will end up being as exciting as you think |
| 03:09.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I have full tuition at SNOW! |
| 03:09.05 | ScytheBlade1 | If I wanted fun, I'd go there, thanks |
| 03:09.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I pick an education |
| 03:10.15 | *** join/#utah nick125 (n=nick@unaffiliated/nick125) |
| 03:10.23 | goozbach | YES!!!! |
| 03:10.31 | goozbach | ~dance |
| 03:10.33 | ibot | [dance] ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' elive, stayin' elive.. |
| 03:10.35 | goozbach | -dance |
| 03:10.52 | goozbach | OH YEAH!!!!! |
| 03:10.59 | maquis | wow... |
| 03:11.01 | goozbach | dspam is now marking my emails |
| 03:11.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Now write me a HOWTO |
| 03:11.03 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 03:11.03 | maquis | lots of screaming in the apartment |
| 03:11.16 | goozbach | maquis: ? |
| 03:11.21 | goozbach | it's thurs |
| 03:11.25 | goozbach | can't be AI |
| 03:11.36 | QBFreak | anyone know why I tend to have issues getting things to share a single .htpasswd file? |
| 03:11.58 | goozbach | ~AI |
| 03:12.00 | ibot | it has been said that ai is a myth, the best they have so far is actual stupidity, or me APT!, or american idol |
| 03:13.19 | maquis | goozbach: turns out that they decided to stick a candle on the stove and turn it on |
| 03:13.23 | maquis | but they turned it on high |
| 03:13.38 | maquis | and so it exploded, and the smoke alarm and everything went off |
| 03:13.50 | maquis | there's still some flaming glass sitting on the stove |
| 03:14.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ^Migs^, in all honesty, from the fact that you code in the same stuff that I do, hang around in here, would have all services provided for, and then throw in the fact that you mentioned LAN parties, I still vote you move up closer to the U ;) |
| 03:14.07 | QBFreak | nice |
| 03:14.38 | ^Migs^ | hahaha |
| 03:14.43 | ^Migs^ | Scythe, we have GOT to get together |
| 03:14.47 | ScytheBlade1 | We do |
| 03:14.59 | ScytheBlade1 | And I'd come with a compile machine! Dual 2600+s with 4GB of RAM! |
| 03:15.03 | ^Migs^ | or not. You're probably a weirdo. |
| 03:15.07 | ^Migs^ | whoa, sweet |
| 03:15.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ |
| 03:15.16 | ^Migs^ | wtf, that's better than my machine at work |
| 03:15.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Who cares if I'm weird, you could use distcc! ;) |
| 03:15.41 | ^Migs^ | yeah, we could just be cyberfriends and have LAN parties over the intarweb |
| 03:15.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 03:15.49 | ScytheBlade1 | LAN parties over the WAN |
| 03:15.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ... wait |
| 03:16.11 | ^Migs^ | use Hamachi |
| 03:16.32 | QBFreak | sadly I ran into an instance where I could not get that to work |
| 03:16.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I pick IPSec |
| 03:16.49 | ^Migs^ | you're probably more tech savvy than I am |
| 03:16.55 | ^Migs^ | I just make web sites |
| 03:16.59 | ^Migs^ | and I'm a Java noob |
| 03:17.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Today at UVSC, I had a laptop and a piece of RJ45 |
| 03:17.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Plugged in, got a student login page to gain internet access |
| 03:17.35 | ScytheBlade1 | All ports blocked until you login |
| 03:17.40 | ScytheBlade1 | .... except 53/udp, aka DNS |
| 03:17.56 | ScytheBlade1 | So I routed a VPN over 53/udp and got full, encrypted internet access @ 2MB/sec |
| 03:18.20 | nick125 | haha |
| 03:18.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd like to see you do that with windows! |
| 03:18.41 | ScytheBlade1 | It was fun |
| 03:18.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I sat there laughing to myself, and once I got internet |
| 03:18.50 | maquis | erm... |
| 03:18.50 | maquis | wow |
| 03:18.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I realized that I was just plain bored, and had no use for it |
| 03:18.56 | nick125 | Could you even do that in windows? o.0 |
| 03:18.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 03:19.01 | goozbach | ScytheBlade1: I've done the same but over ICMP |
| 03:19.14 | ScytheBlade1 | How? The ICMP ping data? |
| 03:19.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Though, ICMP was blocked too, so it would have been useless, but I still want to know |
| 03:19.36 | goozbach | embeded my connection in an icmp query packet |
| 03:19.41 | QBFreak | maquis: based on waht? pouring water on flaming wax? |
| 03:19.49 | maquis | QBFreak: yes... |
| 03:19.49 | goozbach | I used a script... |
| 03:19.58 | goozbach | give me a sec I'll see if I can find it |
| 03:20.00 | QBFreak | I think maybe the water is just spreading it :) |
| 03:20.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Please, that qualifies as "very useful" in my book |
| 03:20.10 | maquis | QBFreak: but it doesn't *feed* it |
| 03:20.15 | QBFreak | exactly |
| 03:20.18 | maquis | they meant in the same way that oxygen feeds water |
| 03:20.19 | maquis | er |
| 03:20.20 | maquis | fire |
| 03:20.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I thought you weren't trying to get into that debate, maquis ;) |
| 03:20.35 | QBFreak | yeah, I know what you meant, and I agree with you that it does not |
| 03:20.37 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: i'm not going to get into it with my roommates |
| 03:20.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 03:20.41 | QBFreak | I was curious as to their reasoning |
| 03:20.50 | maquis | they don't quite understand some basic concepts related to the understanding |
| 03:20.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I noticed |
| 03:20.56 | goozbach | now I need some spam |
| 03:21.00 | goozbach | hmmm |
| 03:21.07 | QBFreak | I can forward some |
| 03:21.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I can forward about 3000 |
| 03:21.20 | ScytheBlade1 | But comcast would notice and kill my e-mail server, so... |
| 03:21.36 | maquis | well, one roommate was pointing out that you're not supposed to put water on fires because they feed the fire (i guess taking it from the fact that if you put water on an oil fire in the kitchen, it can cause problems...) |
| 03:21.47 | maquis | the other was saying "but... firemen use hoses with water" |
| 03:21.54 | ScytheBlade1 | ^Migs^, one thing: Counter-Strike or UT? |
| 03:22.03 | QBFreak | cause firemen are pyros! |
| 03:22.04 | ScytheBlade1 | maquis, that's awesome |
| 03:22.05 | maquis | had she been a bit more... certain of her point with that, it would've been better |
| 03:22.17 | maquis | but she really didn't sound very certain about that claim |
| 03:22.21 | QBFreak | heh wow |
| 03:22.24 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: i suppose so |
| 03:22.38 | *** part/#utah herlo (n=csavage@198.252.209.76) |
| 03:22.40 | ^Migs^ | I don't like FPSs, ScytheBlade |
| 03:22.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That works too |
| 03:22.45 | ^Migs^ | well, I'm trying to |
| 03:22.53 | ^Migs^ | they're not my favorite genre, though |
| 03:22.56 | ScytheBlade1 | As long as the answer was not CS |
| 03:22.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm happy |
| 03:23.00 | ^Migs^ | I like adventure games and RTSs |
| 03:23.06 | ScytheBlade1 | ! @ RTS |
| 03:23.11 | ^Migs^ | yeah |
| 03:23.17 | ScytheBlade1 | <3 |
| 03:23.18 | ^Migs^ | and I don't normally like MMORPGs, but I've made an exception for Guild Wars |
| 03:23.19 | goozbach | forward a few spam |
| 03:23.32 | ^Migs^ | although I haven't played it in a few weeks |
| 03:23.33 | goozbach | dcarter@bigfatchubby.com |
| 03:24.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ^Migs^, meh, if you ever move close(r) to the U, let me know ;) |
| 03:24.06 | QBFreak | I have a log of this in the event you try to sue me :) |
| 03:24.33 | ^Migs^ | I just built myself a new computer, and I've finally been able to catch up on games that I wasn't able to play for the past 3 years |
| 03:24.39 | ^Migs^ | so I'm quite busy playing games now |
| 03:25.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually, at UVSC, despite hours of boredom, two things made it all worth it |
| 03:25.58 | TheDiff | is that where Michael Moore came to speak? |
| 03:26.09 | ScytheBlade1 | 1) VPN @ 2MB/sec over 53/udp 2) Talking with the apple salesman for my school district, who is going to hook me up with an ADC + school + student discount |
| 03:27.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I may be getting me a new intel mac laptop |
| 03:27.10 | ^Migs^ | you work for a school district? |
| 03:27.20 | ScytheBlade1 | My mother does, teaching 2nd grade |
| 03:27.25 | ScytheBlade1 | and I'm an ADC student member |
| 03:28.39 | ^Migs^ | wow, I work for a school district, too |
| 03:28.50 | ScytheBlade1 | You can get a rather nice discount yourself then |
| 03:29.33 | ScytheBlade1 | (Apple is very nice to education, especially K-12) |
| 03:30.08 | ^Migs^ | the practical thing to do would be to put kids on Linux right from grade 1 |
| 03:30.41 | ScytheBlade1 | up until they come home to windows |
| 03:31.49 | goozbach | thanks for the spam |
| 03:31.57 | ^Migs^ | Debian Jr. |
| 03:32.54 | TheDiff | ScytheBlade1: you mean until they come home to a windows machine, which they will then proceed to reformat and install linux on |
| 03:32.56 | *** join/#utah jnbek (n=jnbek@c-67-166-97-223.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 03:33.13 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, that'd be awesome |
| 03:33.17 | TheDiff | it will be like a little tux army |
| 03:33.21 | TheDiff | they didnt know any better! |
| 03:33.22 | ScytheBlade1 | "Third grader formats computer; installs linux" |
| 03:33.37 | TheDiff | "dad gets 'real pissed'" |
| 03:34.15 | TheDiff | like the tobacco industry says, from the cradle to the grave |
| 03:34.19 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:38.33 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 03:38.59 | xbmodder_lappy | You'd be like "linux army, attack microsoft.com" and there would be like a giant port scan... |
| 03:39.17 | xbmodder_lappy | teach them the "nmap" command |
| 03:40.00 | TheDiff | now now |
| 03:40.04 | TheDiff | we dont want to be subversive |
| 03:40.37 | xbmodder_lappy | Apple, even with a discount, is very expensive... |
| 03:40.56 | TheDiff | merely productively delinquent |
| 03:41.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Considering the hardware you get in return though? |
| 03:41.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean... |
| 03:41.09 | *** join/#utah mheath (n=mheath@c-24-2-81-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 03:41.19 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, A dual 1.83 GHz |
| 03:41.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that uses 93 watts of power, monitor and everything included |
| 03:41.43 | xbmodder_lappy | ok |
| 03:41.56 | xbmodder_lappy | 2500 dollar macbook, or 1300 thinkpad? |
| 03:42.07 | TheDiff | OMG THIS IS AWESOME |
| 03:42.10 | TheDiff | http://x-entertainment.com/updates/entries/archives/00000749.html |
| 03:42.11 | brac | [Welcome to the X-Entertainment Blog] |
| 03:42.14 | TheDiff | ps, its not porn |
| 03:42.27 | ^Migs^ | or is it!? |
| 03:42.30 | TheDiff | haha |
| 03:43.06 | TheDiff | sorry, i didnt want you guys to be all excited, and then be disappointed at the lack of bared skin |
| 03:43.28 | TheDiff | transformers are the reason I became an engineer |
| 03:44.02 | QBFreak | hmm, how do I find out how much RAM is in a linux box without rebooting to catch the BIOS? |
| 03:44.11 | ScytheBlade1 | cat /proc/meminfo |
| 03:44.12 | xbmodder_lappy | cat /proc/meminfo? |
| 03:44.20 | utah_prole | free |
| 03:44.20 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, ! |
| 03:44.22 | nick125 | free -m |
| 03:44.30 | QBFreak | so many answers :) |
| 03:44.42 | ScytheBlade1 | It was an easy to answer question :) |
| 03:44.45 | goozbach | xbmodder_lappy: thinkpad |
| 03:44.52 | goozbach | unless you want macos |
| 03:44.53 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, yeah |
| 03:44.54 | xbmodder_lappy | me too.. |
| 03:45.53 | TheDiff | thinkpads are for hackers |
| 03:46.21 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 03:46.28 | utah_prole | powerbooks are for hackers :) |
| 03:46.48 | TheDiff | xbmodder_lappy: hackers can't be sexy. that would be silly |
| 03:47.02 | TheDiff | you need your laptop to be dark and boxy |
| 03:47.30 | goozbach | I think that dark and boxy is sexy |
| 03:47.39 | TheDiff | blasphemy! |
| 03:47.55 | goozbach | what? you want a flower-power alienware? |
| 03:48.01 | ScytheBlade1 | This channel is on one tonight |
| 03:48.04 | TheDiff | ~excommunicate goozbach |
| 03:48.13 | nick125 | I also made a little python code snippet that gives the total amount of ram in a box :P |
| 03:48.21 | xbmodder_lappy | python -c import commands;c=commands.getoutput('cat /proc/meminfo |grep MemTotal');c=c.replace(' ','');print commands.getoutput('echo '+c+'|cut -f 2 -d:') |
| 03:48.23 | TheDiff | i SO thought that would be implemented in this channel |
| 03:48.26 | goozbach | it's what's on the inside that makes a laptop sexy |
| 03:48.34 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: no stupid, dont, no!! |
| 03:48.38 | nick125 | DONT!! |
| 03:48.46 | nick125 | >>> o=open("/proc/meminfo","r"); h=o.readlines(); |
| 03:48.46 | nick125 | >>> for obj in h: |
| 03:48.46 | nick125 | ... if obj.startswith("MemTotal:"): print obj.split("MemTotal:")[-1].strip() |
| 03:48.47 | nick125 | ... |
| 03:48.47 | nick125 | 1030304 kB |
| 03:48.48 | nick125 | >>> |
| 03:48.51 | nick125 | :P |
| 03:48.51 | TheDiff | haha |
| 03:49.01 | TheDiff | use ruby |
| 03:49.10 | xbmodder_lappy | xbmodder torrents # python -c "import commands;c=commands.getoutput('cat /proc/meminfo |grep MemTotal');c=c.replace(' ','');print commands.getoutput('echo '+c+'.getoutput('cat /proc/meminfo |grep MemTotal 1033564kBplace(' ','');print commands.getoutput('echo '+c+s.getoutput('cat /proc/meminfo |grep MemTota xbmodder torrents # |
| 03:49.12 | TheDiff | it was made by japanese, and therefore is inherently superior |
| 03:49.21 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis++ |
| 03:49.47 | TheDiff | what nick125? you say I'm right? why thank you. |
| 03:50.59 | TheDiff | xbmodder_lappy: are ibm & mac the only two choices you have |
| 03:51.03 | TheDiff | for the academic discount |
| 03:51.14 | xbmodder_lappy | cat /proc/meminfo |grep MemTotal|sed s/" "/""/|sed s/" "/""/|sed s/" "/""/|sed s/" "/""/|sed s/" "/""/|sed s/" "/""/|sed s/" "/""/|sed s/" "/""/|sed s/" "/""/|sed s/" "/""/|sed s/" "/""/|sed s/"MemTotal:"/""/ |
| 03:51.25 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, cool... |
| 03:51.35 | xbmodder_lappy | IBM rocks. |
| 03:51.36 | TheDiff | um |
| 03:51.40 | TheDiff | that was a question |
| 03:51.43 | xbmodder_lappy | I don't know ruby... so sorry :-( |
| 03:51.52 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: yeah, he asked you a question (!!) |
| 03:51.55 | nick125 | dummy.. |
| 03:51.57 | xbmodder_lappy | where? |
| 03:52.03 | xbmodder_lappy | oh |
| 03:52.07 | TheDiff | i dont know, its hidden BETWEEN ALL YOUR CODE |
| 03:52.08 | xbmodder_lappy | I didn't see question mark |
| 03:52.09 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 03:52.21 | nick125 | I'm gonna send BOTH OF YOU down for a damn vision test.. |
| 03:52.22 | TheDiff | your parsing algorithm is weak |
| 03:52.28 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, I was having a parsing error. |
| 03:52.38 | xbmodder_lappy | It expects proper formatting |
| 03:52.44 | TheDiff | this isnt xml |
| 03:52.47 | nick125 | /exec -o fidget I think you both are blind!! |
| 03:52.49 | nick125 | eerrrr |
| 03:52.52 | *** join/#utah mheath (n=mheath@c-24-2-81-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 03:52.57 | TheDiff | oh crap |
| 03:52.58 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, why do you say, I wouldn't use Falcon, or Voodoo. |
| 03:53.26 | TheDiff | xbmodder_lappy: i'm curious what brand choices you have for a laptop. |
| 03:53.34 | TheDiff | i would never ever recommend either of those two companies. |
| 03:53.35 | xbmodder_lappy | I really like IBM |
| 03:53.38 | TheDiff | me too |
| 03:53.46 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, what would you choose? |
| 03:53.46 | TheDiff | i like mac laptops too |
| 03:53.51 | TheDiff | well i just got a fujitsu |
| 03:53.54 | TheDiff | and i'm really happy with it |
| 03:54.08 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 03:54.09 | TheDiff | i get like 7 hours of battery life |
| 03:54.22 | xbmodder_lappy | I've used a fujitsu, cheapest peice of junk _ever_ |
| 03:54.31 | TheDiff | when i take out the modular dvd-ram and put in the modular battery |
| 03:54.41 | TheDiff | hmm, how long ago? |
| 03:54.42 | maquis | dead-pixel was a fujitsu |
| 03:54.55 | maquis | that was one of the laptops we got for the docs at my old job |
| 03:54.59 | xbmodder_lappy | I don't know |
| 03:55.03 | xbmodder_lappy | about 7 years |
| 03:55.06 | maquis | dead-pixel and i were pretty tight... |
| 03:55.14 | TheDiff | quality might have changed over that time |
| 03:55.21 | TheDiff | i personally like ultralights |
| 03:55.31 | maquis | unfortunately, the docs weren't too nice |
| 03:55.42 | TheDiff | to their patients, or to you? |
| 03:55.50 | maquis | to their computers |
| 03:55.59 | maquis | one of the little laptops got written on with ballpoint |
| 03:56.02 | maquis | another got dropped |
| 03:56.08 | TheDiff | "um, we spilt bodily fluids in the keyboards again" |
| 03:56.12 | TheDiff | "can you fix that? thanks." |
| 03:56.26 | maquis | one had something smeared on the screen... |
| 03:56.40 | maquis | and when i was there, only 5 of the docs had laptops |
| 03:56.55 | maquis | so... that was 3 of them |
| 03:57.18 | xbmodder_lappy | did you ever had to clean off a urine sample? |
| 03:57.34 | maquis | dead-pixel ended up staying with the devs since he had a dead pixel, and so he managed to avoid all that, until the one got dropped... |
| 03:57.44 | maquis | nah... only had to see them once after they'd been with the docs |
| 03:57.54 | maquis | we got them back for a few days to test some stuff on them |
| 03:58.12 | maquis | my manager cleaned off the one with the stuff smeared on the screen |
| 03:58.13 | TheDiff | ie, check for viruses |
| 03:58.20 | TheDiff | da dum, ching! |
| 03:58.20 | maquis | i got to clean off the one with the ballpoint pen all over |
| 03:58.27 | TheDiff | THAT WAS FUNNY |
| 03:58.28 | maquis | TheDiff: haha |
| 03:58.47 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, what was written |
| 03:58.50 | xbmodder_lappy | like a patient's information? |
| 03:58.57 | TheDiff | social security numbers |
| 03:59.05 | TheDiff | girls phone numbers |
| 03:59.11 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, I didn't want to directly ask that, but yes... |
| 03:59.25 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, or in your case guys' phone numbers |
| 03:59.47 | TheDiff | dude, genius idea |
| 03:59.57 | TheDiff | they should make the lids of laptops |
| 04:00.01 | TheDiff | whiteboards |
| 04:00.13 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: no... the laptop had a touchscreen |
| 04:00.15 | TheDiff | and so you can just like write on them with dry-erase pens |
| 04:00.19 | xbmodder_lappy | oooh.. |
| 04:00.20 | xbmodder_lappy | heh |
| 04:00.25 | maquis | and one of the docs was using her pen as a stylus |
| 04:00.40 | TheDiff | psh, tahts a total use case |
| 04:00.44 | TheDiff | the should have designed for that |
| 04:01.39 | TheDiff | anyone a gentoo user? |
| 04:01.56 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah. |
| 04:02.01 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, me and nick125 |
| 04:02.08 | TheDiff | have you emerged the modular xorg yet |
| 04:02.15 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, nick125 has. |
| 04:02.16 | nick125 | Yup ^_^ |
| 04:02.20 | TheDiff | how did that work out |
| 04:02.25 | xbmodder_lappy | terribly |
| 04:02.28 | TheDiff | hahaha |
| 04:02.30 | xbmodder_lappy | He doesn't get any work done |
| 04:02.31 | nick125 | it works out fine |
| 04:02.33 | TheDiff | thats what i've been hearing |
| 04:02.33 | nick125 | LOL |
| 04:02.36 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: thats because of XGL!! |
| 04:02.37 | xbmodder_lappy | always playing with Xorg. |
| 04:02.47 | xbmodder_lappy | *XGL |
| 04:02.48 | TheDiff | nick125: you installed XGL?? |
| 04:02.53 | nick125 | TheDiff: It works fine, It's just that, I'm too busy playing with XGL to get any work done |
| 04:02.56 | nick125 | yes |
| 04:03.05 | TheDiff | ew, no thanks |
| 04:03.46 | nick125 | I emerge -C xorg-x11 while xorg was running.. |
| 04:04.39 | nick125 | Just don't open any new windows |
| 04:05.11 | TheDiff | um |
| 04:05.14 | TheDiff | haha |
| 04:05.33 | nick125 | it works, seriously.. |
| 04:06.01 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, just don't start X |
| 04:06.04 | TheDiff | mheath: to send you off with style: http://www.ezprezzo.com/crazypics/lego_aircraft_carrier.html |
| 04:06.05 | brac | [Ezprezzo.com - Aircraft carrier entirely made of Lego] |
| 04:06.20 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: no, just don't start any new windows.. |
| 04:06.23 | xbmodder_lappy | Yeah, very cool.. |
| 04:06.32 | nick125 | I did it without stopping X.. |
| 04:06.41 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: look in the flood channel I made on FN/AN |
| 04:07.17 | TheDiff | so they released a program that works with google talks VOIP |
| 04:07.22 | TheDiff | called tapioca |
| 04:07.24 | TheDiff | its pretty bomb |
| 04:08.09 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, Is it linux friendly? |
| 04:08.10 | mheath | Nice.... |
| 04:08.14 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: I think it is.. |
| 04:08.20 | xbmodder_lappy | link please? |
| 04:08.25 | TheDiff | xbmodder_lappy: yeah its make for linux |
| 04:08.29 | xbmodder_lappy | tapioca-voip? |
| 04:08.30 | TheDiff | uses gtk2 i believe |
| 04:08.40 | TheDiff | http://tapioca-voip.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/ScreenShots |
| 04:09.01 | TheDiff | i used it on my ubuntu laptop, there a .deb out there for it |
| 04:09.13 | TheDiff | s/there/there is |
| 04:09.14 | xbmodder_lappy | coolio. |
| 04:09.25 | TheDiff | i havent tried compiling it for gentoo |
| 04:09.29 | TheDiff | but yeah it works pretty good |
| 04:09.43 | xbmodder_lappy | nick125, might talk to you now |
| 04:09.54 | TheDiff | haha |
| 04:10.02 | nick125 | brb, my mom wants to pick my brain.. |
| 04:10.14 | xbmodder_lappy | The only thing I really wish for is bluetooth intergration and camera inside the thinkpads. |
| 04:10.20 | QBFreak | lice? |
| 04:10.26 | xbmodder_lappy | lice? |
| 04:10.27 | TheDiff | haa |
| 04:10.30 | xbmodder_lappy | you use windows! |
| 04:10.44 | TheDiff | what? |
| 04:11.46 | goozbach | xbmodder_lappy: I've got integrated bluethoot |
| 04:11.50 | goozbach | er tooth |
| 04:11.53 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, cool... |
| 04:11.55 | TheDiff | xbmodder_lappy: you just get the mac just for omnigraffle |
| 04:11.58 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, what about the camera. |
| 04:12.01 | TheDiff | thats seriously the best program ever |
| 04:12.03 | goozbach | meh |
| 04:12.15 | goozbach | camera's are something that should be seperate |
| 04:12.36 | goozbach | buy a multi-megapixel digital camera |
| 04:12.37 | TheDiff | divide and conquer, bia |
| 04:12.50 | goozbach | and use that |
| 04:13.02 | xbmodder_lappy | no, if my girlfriend has a thinkpad, I want to be able to vChat easily... |
| 04:13.03 | TheDiff | goozbach: he probably wants it for webcamming |
| 04:13.08 | xbmodder_lappy | or something along those lines... |
| 04:13.12 | TheDiff | woah there |
| 04:13.13 | goozbach | bah |
| 04:13.22 | goozbach | buy a webcam |
| 04:13.24 | TheDiff | just because its virtual, doesnt mean its not wrong |
| 04:13.51 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, yeah, one that I can carry with me everywhere.? |
| 04:13.52 | goozbach | there's a webcam that will plug into that port on the top of the screen |
| 04:14.03 | xbmodder_lappy | port are top of screen? |
| 04:14.14 | mheath | ...."if my girlfriend has a thinkpad" |
| 04:14.16 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, I think you err... misunderstood that |
| 04:14.17 | goozbach | there's a plastic plug covering a special usb port |
| 04:14.26 | mheath | This is an example of looking ahead in the *wrong* way. |
| 04:14.29 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, starting from what model? |
| 04:14.36 | TheDiff | haha |
| 04:14.38 | goozbach | it's on my t42 |
| 04:14.51 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, one of my good friends webcams alot... |
| 04:15.02 | mheath | xbmodder1: .....So? |
| 04:15.21 | xbmodder_lappy | the only slight details which do not enable me to are the facts that I run Linux and I don't have a working cam |
| 04:15.29 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, it'd be fun... |
| 04:15.35 | goozbach | bah |
| 04:15.37 | xbmodder_lappy | actually _seeing_ each other.. |
| 04:15.42 | mheath | ..... |
| 04:15.43 | goozbach | webcams are over-rated |
| 04:15.52 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, hm, are there any "approved" webcames |
| 04:15.55 | TheDiff | yeah, they were cool like 6 years ago |
| 04:16.00 | xbmodder_lappy | s/webcames/webcams/ |
| 04:16.01 | TheDiff | and thats when they really sucked |
| 04:16.09 | goozbach | I want to "see" someone I'll go visit them IN |
| 04:16.12 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:16.13 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, now they have decent quality. |
| 04:16.16 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: I was responding to a comment you made about your potential girlfriend having one. |
| 04:16.28 | mheath | Are you implying that you would never see this potential girlfriend, except for via webcam? |
| 04:16.35 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, No. |
| 04:16.55 | TheDiff | he's saying when he goes off into the army, then he will only see her via webcam |
| 04:17.02 | xbmodder_lappy | well, the reason why I didn't ask her out, is the fact that she was going to move away in about two weeks... |
| 04:17.07 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.15 | mheath | Then why did you say "<xbmodder_lappy> actually _seeing_ each other.."? |
| 04:17.22 | TheDiff | goozbach: no shoes no shirt no service is merely a suggestion |
| 04:17.32 | TheDiff | they'll probably still give you food |
| 04:17.37 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, the shirt works... |
| 04:17.42 | xbmodder_lappy | shoes are a pains |
| 04:17.43 | goozbach | TheDiff: yeah, but they frown on "no pants" |
| 04:17.47 | mheath | Hey, just go down to the homeless shelter. |
| 04:17.48 | xbmodder_lappy | s/pains/pain/ |
| 04:17.57 | mheath | They don't mind shabby or nonexistant clothing there |
| 04:17.59 | nick125 | hahah |
| 04:18.01 | mheath | They'll give you a meal |
| 04:18.05 | nick125 | that was funny |
| 04:18.10 | mheath | AND clothe you! |
| 04:18.19 | TheDiff | psh, i go to breakfast buzz in boxers and a wifebeater all the time |
| 04:18.20 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: read your pm |
| 04:18.22 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, I am 15 I can't exactly drive to my friend's houses... |
| 04:18.29 | xbmodder_lappy | nick125, "haha" |
| 04:18.39 | xbmodder_lappy | nick125, in response "yes, #utah is very funny" |
| 04:18.40 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: Ever read the bible? |
| 04:18.50 | TheDiff | say no, its a trick |
| 04:18.50 | mheath | You know the part, shortly after all the "Let there be light" stuff? |
| 04:18.51 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, No. |
| 04:18.52 | goozbach | TheDiff: plum smuggliers are a bit different |
| 04:18.56 | mheath | When god was creating the humans? |
| 04:18.57 | TheDiff | hahaha |
| 04:18.59 | mheath | He did osmething interesting |
| 04:19.01 | xbmodder_lappy | no... |
| 04:19.04 | xbmodder_lappy | not really... |
| 04:19.09 | mheath | I want you to do something for me |
| 04:19.10 | TheDiff | plum smuggliers! |
| 04:19.13 | TheDiff | i like that one |
| 04:19.23 | mheath | Look downwards |
| 04:19.28 | TheDiff | "whisper in my ear" |
| 04:19.29 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 04:19.31 | mheath | towards your feet, the part of you thats touching the ground |
| 04:19.36 | mheath | What do you see? |
| 04:19.36 | xbmodder_lappy | ok... |
| 04:19.40 | xbmodder_lappy | feet. |
| 04:19.48 | mheath | What are the potential implications of this?! |
| 04:20.02 | TheDiff | his logic is infallible |
| 04:20.21 | goozbach | yeah, feet + public transit |
| 04:20.21 | TheDiff | but my brain is transmitting a better idea |
| 04:20.21 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, we can run, walk, and drive illegally. |
| 04:20.45 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, the curfew for <15 in pleasanton (my city) is 9:00 PM |
| 04:20.46 | goozbach | and you can't say that public transit sucks where you live |
| 04:20.49 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: You have no excuse for saying that the only convenient way to see someone you know in person is through a webcam. |
| 04:20.52 | mheath | Your in highschool. |
| 04:20.58 | xbmodder_lappy | Yeah |
| 04:21.05 | mheath | Out of your entire life, this is your peak of social interaction |
| 04:21.16 | TheDiff | um |
| 04:21.20 | mheath | The time when you're packed into the same building with the most people likely to ever become your friends. |
| 04:21.24 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, and if they are accross the pacific ocean. |
| 04:21.31 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: walk over the ocean! |
| 04:21.37 | TheDiff | xbmodder_lappy: Pleasanton? CA? |
| 04:21.43 | goozbach | save up and buy a plane ticket |
| 04:21.48 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: you were just talking about a friend who lived by you. |
| 04:21.56 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, see I suggested that idea |
| 04:21.57 | mheath | TheDiff: Indeed. We're *still* trying to figure out why he's here. |
| 04:22.05 | xbmodder_lappy | and then all of #utah bashed me... |
| 04:22.05 | goozbach | mheath: "she's moving" |
| 04:22.09 | TheDiff | haha, i used to date a girl from pleasanton |
| 04:22.13 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, moved... |
| 04:22.17 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, seriously? |
| 04:22.20 | TheDiff | haha yeah |
| 04:22.29 | TheDiff | thats funny to me |
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| 04:22.46 | goozbach | bah you don't Need a webcam |
| 04:22.54 | goozbach | pictues and email is sufficent |
| 04:23.05 | TheDiff | goozbach hates technology |
| 04:23.31 | goozbach | I did a long distance relationship for 4 months me in Utah her in Germany |
| 04:23.43 | goozbach | pictures and email were enough |
| 04:23.51 | goozbach | and the ocasional phone call |
| 04:24.02 | TheDiff | and after those 4 months |
| 04:24.05 | TheDiff | ? |
| 04:24.10 | goozbach | she came back home |
| 04:24.19 | TheDiff | it doesnt count if they come back! |
| 04:24.21 | TheDiff | thats a vacation |
| 04:24.27 | TheDiff | not a long distance relationship |
| 04:24.43 | goozbach | 4 months isn't long enough? |
| 04:25.12 | TheDiff | nein |
| 04:25.16 | goozbach | before that four months she was at USU and I lived in Cedar |
| 04:25.18 | TheDiff | not if you know they are coming back |
| 04:25.24 | goozbach | does that count? |
| 04:25.36 | goozbach | 8 hour drive to see each other? |
| 04:25.42 | TheDiff | i dont know what either of those are |
| 04:25.49 | TheDiff | okay that might be starting to count |
| 04:26.05 | goozbach | USU is in Logan |
| 04:26.14 | goozbach | (north end of the state) |
| 04:26.28 | goozbach | Cedar is 3.5 hours south of SLC |
| 04:26.33 | goozbach | (southern utah) |
| 04:27.34 | TheDiff | then make your own! |
| 04:27.35 | nick125 | maquis: how long did that take for you to realize? |
| 04:28.18 | goozbach | dspam is looking at the emails |
| 04:28.20 | maquis | nick125: i'm trying to remember if i actually turned the music on a couple hours ago, or if i just started up rhythmbox and forgot about it |
| 04:28.29 | goozbach | it's just not learning |
| 04:28.41 | nick125 | maquis: lol |
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| 04:28.56 | TheDiff | it is time |
| 04:29.08 | nick125 | when I reboot my box, by the time GDM is back up, mpd is already playing :D |
| 04:29.45 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: oh yeah, I forwarded that email to cubikdice, so I would also forward it to a friend |
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| 04:39.02 | mheath | Mmm, oreo cookie mousse :) |
| 04:39.25 | xbmodder_lappy | they sell that independetly from oreos? |
| 04:39.41 | mheath | ..... |
| 04:39.51 | mheath | Cream != mousse. |
| 04:40.19 | TheDiff|guitar | i sure hope those are organic oreos |
| 04:41.08 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff|guitar, what was her last name? |
| 04:42.35 | mheath | TheDiff|guitar: O.o |
| 04:42.58 | xbmodder_lappy | He is guitaring away |
| 04:43.00 | mheath | OREO! OOOOOHHHH...OOOHHHH. OREO! OOOOOOH.....OOHHH. |
| 04:43.41 | xbmodder_lappy | I wonder if it sounds like "nunanana" or "danaananana!" or "DADADAAA!" or "dananadananadadadanananannana" |
| 04:44.17 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: think wizard of oz. |
| 04:45.25 | TheDiff|guitar | xbmodder_lappy: McLaughlin |
| 04:45.32 | TheDiff|guitar | shes way older than you |
| 04:45.44 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff|guitar, did she have a sister? |
| 04:45.54 | QBFreak | past tense only? |
| 04:45.57 | xbmodder_lappy | I think there is a McLaughlin in the school... |
| 04:46.04 | xbmodder_lappy | QBFreak, you never know? |
| 04:46.17 | xbmodder_lappy | I think her sister might have gone to my middle school. |
| 04:46.52 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: Yes, she *did* have a sister, but she *doesn't* anymore ;-P |
| 04:47.01 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 04:47.24 | TheDiff|guitar | xbmodder_lappy: umm |
| 04:47.36 | TheDiff|guitar | i think she might have had a younger |
| 04:47.39 | TheDiff|guitar | but i never met her |
| 04:47.44 | TheDiff|guitar | just her parents |
| 04:48.06 | xbmodder_lappy | Other than the fact that there are quite a few mclaughlins.. |
| 04:48.08 | xbmodder_lappy | http://www.whitepages.com/5116/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=&name_begins_with=0&name=McLaughlin&city_zip=pleasanton&state_id=CA |
| 04:48.09 | brac | [YELLOWPAGES.COM online Yellow Pages Directory] |
| 04:48.14 | xbmodder_lappy | that would be kinda weird. |
| 04:48.45 | TheDiff|guitar | all I know is that I hope you aren't like her friends from back home |
| 04:48.50 | TheDiff|guitar | you dont chew tobacco do you |
| 04:49.10 | xbmodder_lappy | no... |
| 04:49.17 | TheDiff|guitar | good |
| 04:49.24 | TheDiff|guitar | her homies all thought they were cowboys |
| 04:49.35 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 04:49.41 | TheDiff|guitar | chewing tobaccos, cowboy hats, the works |
| 04:50.09 | xbmodder_lappy | did you come out to p-town? |
| 04:50.16 | TheDiff|guitar | only passed through |
| 04:50.25 | TheDiff|guitar | your downtown looks like its straight out of wild wild west |
| 04:50.42 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 04:50.49 | xbmodder_lappy | the big "Pleasanton" sign |
| 04:51.22 | xbmodder_lappy | did you see the highschool right off of downtown? |
| 04:51.27 | xbmodder_lappy | main street? |
| 04:51.27 | TheDiff|guitar | no |
| 04:51.31 | xbmodder_lappy | dang. |
| 04:51.42 | mheath | ...... |
| 04:51.44 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff|guitar, what parts did you see? |
| 04:51.46 | TheDiff|guitar | it was dusk, i only stopped in town for gas |
| 04:51.53 | mheath | Pleasantville. |
| 04:51.59 | TheDiff|guitar | i saw downtown lit up like las vegas |
| 04:52.09 | TheDiff|guitar | and then I was on my way to Walnut Creek |
| 04:52.11 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff|guitar, I think you got the wrong town. |
| 04:52.21 | TheDiff|guitar | oh no, it was pleasanton |
| 04:52.39 | TheDiff|guitar | old wooden downtown area |
| 04:52.44 | TheDiff|guitar | i dontk now if thats the 'downtown' |
| 04:52.46 | TheDiff|guitar | or old town |
| 04:52.46 | xbmodder_lappy | not really... |
| 04:52.57 | xbmodder_lappy | what gas station? |
| 04:53.04 | TheDiff|guitar | haha i dont remember |
| 04:53.08 | mheath | Why in the world would be remember that? |
| 04:53.11 | TheDiff|guitar | it was liek 3 years ago |
| 04:53.15 | xbmodder_lappy | oh... |
| 04:53.26 | mheath | QUICK, xbmodder_lappy, what gas station did you stop at first on your last family trip?! |
| 04:53.40 | xbmodder_lappy | um.. |
| 04:53.49 | xbmodder_lappy | The one in p-town |
| 04:54.00 | mheath | p-town? |
| 04:54.02 | xbmodder_lappy | near the pharmacy, they always have the lowest prices.. |
| 04:54.06 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, pleasanton. |
| 04:54.08 | mheath | Your as lame as the people who call Ogden o-town. |
| 04:54.15 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 04:54.28 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, thats different... |
| 04:54.36 | mheath | No, it isn't. |
| 04:55.07 | xbmodder_lappy | yes, because Odgen is in utah |
| 04:55.17 | xbmodder_lappy | and o doesn't stand for Ogden usually |
| 04:55.31 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: .......You make no sense. |
| 04:55.41 | mheath | I honestly don't understand half of what you say. Its nonsense. |
| 04:56.44 | xbmodder_lappy | most of #utah pretends to understand it.. |
| 04:57.02 | xbmodder_lappy | yay for ScytheBlade1 |
| 04:57.08 | ScytheBlade1 | *configures |
| 04:57.16 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 04:57.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Adding another DC |
| 04:57.24 | ScytheBlade1 | AD is already configured overall :) |
| 04:57.28 | mheath | Arg |
| 04:57.49 | ScytheBlade1 | The scary thing is that I'm doing this over terminal services |
| 04:58.02 | ScytheBlade1 | so many things could go wrong, it's scary... |
| 04:58.08 | mheath | Haha. |
| 04:58.16 | maquis | @#$%! |
| 04:58.19 | xbmodder_lappy | imagined if you killed the authentication server and locked yourself out. |
| 04:58.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd just have to go in and reboot it |
| 04:58.32 | ScytheBlade1 | and/or fix it |
| 04:58.55 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah, umm you'd have to wait until morning |
| 04:59.03 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not critical or anything |
| 04:59.04 | xbmodder_lappy | what about the people who need it now. |
| 04:59.11 | ScytheBlade1 | It's adding an *additional* DC to the domain |
| 04:59.12 | TheDiff|guitar | xbmodder_lappy: this is defintely the gas station i stopped at http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&sll=37.6625,-121.873611&sspn=0.121759,0.259895&q=pleasanton,+ca+gas+station+shell&latlng=37662500,-121873611,10636519658668805793 |
| 04:59.19 | TheDiff|guitar | i distinctly remember that intersection |
| 05:00.04 | ScytheBlade1 | All right, I need some help here with some bash scripting |
| 05:00.14 | xbmodder_lappy | *Smack* thats not main street. |
| 05:00.18 | xbmodder_lappy | thats first street. |
| 05:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a little script that starts up some SSH tunneling and then runs rdesktop |
| 05:00.38 | xbmodder_lappy | the pharmacy was there, right? |
| 05:00.38 | mheath | TheDiff|guitar: Can't you read the sign? "Do not feed xbmodder_lappy"? Quick, get away while you still can! |
| 05:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Thing is, the SSH is backgrounded, and I want to kill it once the rdesktop has completed |
| 05:00.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone know the needed shell script sorcery for a task like this? |
| 05:01.05 | TheDiff|guitar | haha |
| 05:01.09 | TheDiff|guitar | dude |
| 05:01.12 | TheDiff|guitar | but then i went on mainstreet |
| 05:01.14 | TheDiff|guitar | you take a left |
| 05:01.15 | TheDiff|guitar | and then another left |
| 05:01.17 | xbmodder_lappy | right infront of the CO, rights.. |
| 05:01.45 | mheath | TheDiff|guitar: I'd really stop, unless you want to be up all night discussing what you remember about traveling down P street, and if you found the 20th house on the right to be particularly interesting |
| 05:01.50 | xbmodder_lappy | Did you see the ghetto CO? |
| 05:02.04 | mheath | Or if you somehow picked out and visually enjoyed the house that the girl he's currently stalking lives in |
| 05:02.24 | TheDiff|guitar | what is CO |
| 05:02.30 | TheDiff|guitar | haha |
| 05:02.35 | xbmodder_lappy | central office... |
| 05:02.41 | TheDiff|guitar | i dont know what that means |
| 05:02.55 | ScytheBlade1 | buhaha |
| 05:02.56 | ScytheBlade1 | It worked |
| 05:03.00 | ScytheBlade1 | (AD) |
| 05:03.00 | xbmodder_lappy | if you went down first starting at the pharmacy, made a right, straight until you hit a dead end, right, right, left, left you'd be at my house. |
| 05:03.08 | xbmodder_lappy | cool. |
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| 05:03.17 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff|guitar, the place where all the phones go. |
| 05:03.26 | TheDiff|guitar | oh |
| 05:03.33 | TheDiff|guitar | i just remember this one building on mainstreet |
| 05:03.34 | xbmodder_lappy | with the giant air duct |
| 05:03.39 | TheDiff|guitar | that looked like a saloon |
| 05:03.45 | TheDiff|guitar | with a wooden sidewalk |
| 05:03.45 | xbmodder_lappy | and the complex ventilation system |
| 05:03.50 | xbmodder_lappy | on main street, or first? |
| 05:03.51 | TheDiff|guitar | and like big white lights |
| 05:03.54 | TheDiff|guitar | main street |
| 05:03.56 | xbmodder_lappy | umm.. |
| 05:04.18 | xbmodder_lappy | Yeah, I think I know what your talking about |
| 05:04.27 | xbmodder_lappy | the bar out on main street |
| 05:04.55 | xbmodder_lappy | Yeah, they tried to close it down |
| 05:06.50 | TheDiff|guitar | the one thing i miss about utah |
| 05:06.52 | TheDiff|guitar | is fry sauce |
| 05:06.55 | TheDiff|guitar | man that is good |
| 05:07.13 | mheath | TheDiff|guitar: indeed! |
| 05:07.24 | xbmodder_lappy | fry sauce? |
| 05:07.48 | xbmodder_lappy | Fry sauce is a condiment common in Utah. It is a simple combination of ketchup and mayonnaise, a combination also referred to as "Russian dressing" by non-Utahns. It resembles Thousand Island dressing but is smoother and creamier. |
| 05:07.58 | xbmodder_lappy | ibot, Fry sauce is a condiment common in Utah. It is a simple combination of ketchup and mayonnaise, a combination also referred to as "Russian dressing" by non-Utahns. It resembles Thousand Island dressing but is smoother and creamier. |
| 05:08.00 | ibot | ACTION grabs sauce is a condiment common in Utah. It is a simple combination of ketchup and mayonnaise, a combination also referred to as "Russian dressing" by non-Utahns. It resembles Thousand Island dressing but is smoother and creamier. and fries him on his BFCooker9000 |
| 05:08.10 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 05:08.35 | xbmodder_lappy | In and out's secret sauce is that |
| 05:09.02 | TheDiff|guitar | Utahns? |
| 05:09.04 | TheDiff|guitar | thats not a word |
| 05:09.06 | TheDiff|guitar | its Utes |
| 05:09.58 | TheDiff|guitar | xbmodder_lappy: no its not |
| 05:10.00 | TheDiff|guitar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.14 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff|guitar, err.. its thousand island dressing modified. |
| 05:10.54 | TheDiff|guitar | i wonder how the utes feel about californians taking over their channel |
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| 05:13.40 | TheDiff | lets play "how pissed will the neighbors be if i play drums at 9pm" |
| 05:13.54 | xbmodder_lappy | my school: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=pleasanton,+ca&ll=37.668926,-121.874878&spn=0.005877,0.02135&t=k |
| 05:14.33 | ScytheBlade1 | QBFreak, the fact that you're putting effort into stalking him scares me |
| 05:14.37 | TheDiff | thats the way you do it |
| 05:14.51 | TheDiff | thats how the govt does it |
| 05:15.45 | xbmodder_lappy | you don't need to put effort into it. |
| 05:15.47 | xbmodder_lappy | just ask |
| 05:15.51 | TheDiff | does anyone know if there was a new episode of lost last night |
| 05:16.01 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah, there was... |
| 05:16.09 | TheDiff | torrentspy it is |
| 05:16.33 | TheDiff | whatttttttt |
| 05:16.36 | TheDiff | they made it membership??? |
| 05:16.58 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 05:17.56 | TheDiff | that is sooooooo weak |
| 05:20.14 | mheath | I can't wait for the DS Browser |
| 05:21.54 | TheDiff | I can't wait for this band to come tour |
| 05:25.33 | TheDiff | I need a UML program that doesnt suck |
| 05:25.39 | TheDiff | something like omnigraffle for linux |
| 05:25.42 | TheDiff | Dia doesnt count |
| 05:25.45 | TheDiff | any suggestions? |
| 05:26.14 | levi | I think Dia is the best OSS has got right now. |
| 05:26.33 | levi | Just buy a Mac and use omnigraffle. ;) |
| 05:26.41 | ScytheBlade1 | inkscape |
| 05:26.44 | ScytheBlade1 | But that's overkill |
| 05:26.54 | levi | Or, alternatively, get Windows and Visio. |
| 05:27.26 | TheDiff | um |
| 05:27.27 | TheDiff | no |
| 05:27.34 | TheDiff | visio is teh sucks |
| 05:28.37 | levi | Well, I've got a Mac to sell you. :) |
| 05:28.55 | TheDiff | haha |
| 05:29.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Now the question |
| 05:29.07 | TheDiff | cuando |
| 05:29.20 | ScytheBlade1 | One universal user account for MSSQL, across all sites, or a per-site MSSQL user? |
| 05:29.22 | TheDiff | how much |
| 05:29.33 | TheDiff | per site |
| 05:29.34 | TheDiff | fo sho |
| 05:29.42 | levi | I'm going to list it for $400, I think. |
| 05:29.57 | TheDiff | does it run osx |
| 05:30.00 | ^Migs^ | nice |
| 05:30.01 | levi | It's a 1Ghz eMac. |
| 05:30.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Which leaves the question of how I want to layer it in the AD manager |
| 05:30.15 | levi | It runs OSX well. |
| 05:30.55 | TheDiff | hmm, i'll think about it |
| 05:31.15 | levi | It's in very nice shape, no scratches in the lucite. :) |
| 05:31.31 | levi | You can also hook it up to another monitor and run dual-head. |
| 05:31.37 | levi | Adapter included! |
| 05:31.56 | levi | Also, all original CDROMs and manuals. |
| 05:39.12 | levi | TheDiff: http://lifeoflevi.com/eMac.jpg |
| 05:40.18 | TheDiff | haha |
| 05:40.42 | TheDiff | i'll trade you your eMac for my friend girlfriend |
| 05:40.55 | TheDiff | because she, is annoying. |
| 05:42.22 | levi | My eMac is cool. Why would I want to trade it for something annoying? |
| 05:43.11 | TheDiff | haha |
| 05:46.37 | ScytheBlade1 | There are some fun wrapper scripts |
| 05:47.04 | ScytheBlade1 | With a single command, it opens a ssh tunnel to an office, forwards a few ports, and starts some remote desktop sessions |
| 05:47.12 | ScytheBlade1 | When the sessions exit, the ssh tunnels are killed off |
| 05:49.36 | TheDiff | did anyone else just see gonzaga get owned? |
| 05:49.55 | levi | TheDiff: You know you want a Mac. OmniGraffle is calling to you. |
| 05:51.07 | TheDiff | haha |
| 05:51.18 | TheDiff | i dont want to spend $400 + shipping because I want OmniGraffle |
| 05:51.22 | TheDiff | thats what VMware is for |
| 06:00.29 | levi | Where do you live? |
| 06:03.30 | TheDiff | levi: CA |
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| 06:03.47 | levi | Silly Californians hanging out in #utah. :P |
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| 06:03.58 | xbmodder_lappy | I followed emcnabb. |
| 06:04.02 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, and you? |
| 06:04.02 | levi | elg: Check out Quartz Composer yet? :) |
| 06:05.02 | TheDiff | xbmodder_lappy: and me what? |
| 06:05.10 | xbmodder_lappy | how'd you come in here |
| 06:05.15 | xbmodder_lappy | Alex gained some weight after leaving the show. |
| 06:05.19 | TheDiff | xbmodder_lappy: recommendation from my dad |
| 06:05.39 | xbmodder_lappy | Anyone know who the CTRL+ALT+CHICKEN co-host? |
| 06:05.47 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, what is your dad's nick? |
| 06:05.53 | TheDiff | haha, hes not on irc |
| 06:06.01 | TheDiff | i dont even know if heknows what it is |
| 06:06.04 | TheDiff | hes on the mailing list or something |
| 06:06.09 | xbmodder_lappy | oh. |
| 06:06.15 | TheDiff | he gave me their website, and i found the irc site on there |
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| 06:06.46 | TheDiff | he sent me a job posting that was on the mailing list |
| 06:06.50 | TheDiff | he wants me to get a job in utah |
| 06:06.58 | TheDiff | so that I can be underpaid |
| 06:07.12 | xbmodder_lappy | TheDiff, jobs in calfornia pay more... |
| 06:07.24 | TheDiff | haha i know, cost of living is also ridiculous |
| 06:07.46 | xbmodder_lappy | So, your get a job here, then go to utah and live with quite a bit of money left over. |
| 06:08.05 | TheDiff | wages in utah are ridiculously low because people are so family oriented, they will work for pennies to stay in state |
| 06:08.22 | bigdog_ut | education is another reason too |
| 06:08.33 | xbmodder_lappy | What is utah anyway, like "What state" |
| 06:08.43 | xbmodder_lappy | Like how california is the golden state |
| 06:08.50 | TheDiff | um |
| 06:08.51 | xbmodder_lappy | what is the utah state? |
| 06:08.58 | TheDiff | beestate |
| 06:09.01 | TheDiff | or something with beehives |
| 06:09.09 | TheDiff | they have them on all their highway signs |
| 06:09.22 | bigdog_ut | beehive state |
| 06:09.32 | TheDiff | haha yessss |
| 06:09.39 | TheDiff | bigdog_ut: education? how so? |
| 06:09.54 | bigdog_ut | utah has a high population of educated people |
| 06:10.37 | bigdog_ut | which means that you can get educated people for low cost |
| 06:11.49 | goozbach | gah! |
| 06:12.05 | goozbach | I'm gonna spit nails if I don't get dspam working soon |
| 06:13.56 | TheDiff | wikipedia isnt being helpful with salary #s |
| 06:14.32 | goozbach | in utah you'll more than likely get underpaid |
| 06:14.39 | bigdog_ut | very likely |
| 06:14.40 | goozbach | but the cost of living is CHEAP |
| 06:14.47 | bigdog_ut | to an extent |
| 06:15.35 | goozbach | comparitivly |
| 06:15.36 | goozbach | I'm lucking out |
| 06:15.36 | TheDiff | haha |
| 06:15.36 | goozbach | GREAT job in Tallahassee ( which has a CoL similiar to Utah) |
| 06:15.37 | goozbach | but making about triple |
| 06:15.40 | goozbach | :) |
| 06:15.51 | TheDiff | median income for males in SLC |
| 06:15.53 | TheDiff | $31,511 |
| 06:16.05 | bigdog_ut | families is like 50k year |
| 06:16.17 | TheDiff | median income for males in Los Alamos (also with a very high education rate) |
| 06:16.19 | TheDiff | $65,638 |
| 06:16.26 | bigdog_ut | yep |
| 06:16.28 | bigdog_ut | that be the case |
| 06:16.34 | TheDiff | los alamos has like a 80% college education rate |
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| 06:17.42 | elg | levi: as much as I will, yeah |
| 06:17.51 | elg | basically looked at one or two pretty ones and said oooh |
| 06:18.02 | elg | but I passed it on to jacob who might be genuinely interested in it |
| 06:18.09 | levi | Did you open them up in the Composer and see how they work? |
| 06:18.37 | elg | i opened one in composer briefly, didn't see any insides though. |
| 06:19.19 | elg | i don't have one drop of patience in my blood for graphics work. we don't get along. The occasional GUI is as close as I get. |
| 06:19.21 | levi | It's very much like a video version of an analog synth, where you patch signal sources through transformers and into output. |
| 06:20.10 | levi | I only really opened up the one that does the random numbers. |
| 06:20.16 | elg | modular synths, now there's a beautiful thing. :) |
| 06:20.40 | levi | See, Quartz Composer is a modular synth for graphical things. |
| 06:21.03 | elg | sounds neat |
| 06:21.04 | levi | It's even got a low-frequency oscillator. :) |
| 06:22.45 | TheDiff | crap, i gotta give my friends car a jump |
| 06:22.49 | TheDiff | balls |
| 06:23.44 | levi | elg: It's also an example of functional programming. :) |
| 06:24.12 | elg | have you looked at nyquist ever? |
| 06:26.46 | levi | Nope. |
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| 06:28.03 | elg | it's a lisp music/sound environment |
| 06:28.09 | xbmodder_lappy | cool. |
| 06:44.35 | xbmodder_lappy | I bet that was fun |
| 06:46.18 | TheDiff | good times |
| 06:46.20 | TheDiff | in slotown |
| 06:46.30 | xbmodder_lappy | slotown? |
| 06:46.34 | TheDiff | this town is dead without the college students |
| 06:46.53 | TheDiff | just old people, hippies, and cowboys |
| 06:46.57 | TheDiff | dangerous combination |
| 06:47.04 | xbmodder_lappy | odd combination |
| 06:47.18 | xbmodder_lappy | well the hippies and the cowboys will gang-up on the old people |
| 06:47.27 | xbmodder_lappy | and then start destroying each other. |
| 06:47.34 | TheDiff | no way, hippies and cowboys are mortal enemies |
| 06:47.51 | xbmodder_lappy | got to go |
| 06:47.56 | TheDiff | its like ninja and pirates |
| 06:48.07 | TheDiff | late |
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| 09:30.31 | maquis | ~quit school |
| 10:06.31 | maquis | so close..... |
| 10:06.34 | maquis | and yet so far away |
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| 16:17.33 | Hhhhh | :( |
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| 16:41.58 | emcnabb | Hhhhh: that's EXACTLY what happened to me :-) |
| 16:42.06 | emcnabb | and sjansen |
| 16:42.06 | Hhhhh | sucks |
| 16:42.36 | Hhhhh | and I'm so trunky now...there are some classes I'm taking this semester that I have not attended for about 1 month |
| 16:49.43 | graphyx | cs220 is that the ee course? |
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| 17:04.12 | ^Migs^ | no callers on that slave for hire position yet |
| 17:07.21 | ^Migs^ | :( |
| 17:10.22 | harleypig | ^Migs^: Try craigslist |
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| 17:12.45 | sjansen | -lart elg |
| 17:14.36 | sjansen | ha! I win! |
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| 17:17.22 | mheath | Good morning! |
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| 17:25.12 | ^Migs^ | that's a good idea |
| 17:25.18 | ^Migs^ | crap, I'm glad you reminded me of craigslist |
| 17:25.32 | ^Migs^ | I'll try it if I don't get any calls today |
| 17:25.41 | ^Migs^ | thanks |
| 17:26.05 | goozbach | MASH was one of the finest shows to ever be on television |
| 17:26.23 | ^Migs^ | MASH blows |
| 17:26.33 | ^Migs^ | I tried to watch it once, but it was completely unfunny |
| 17:28.14 | Jayce^ | goozbach, agreed |
| 17:28.40 | sjansen | o/~ Suicide is painless... ~/o |
| 17:28.56 | ^Migs^ | anyone agree with me that MASH blows giant turkey chunks? |
| 17:29.14 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.17 | goozbach | it's not always suposeed to be funny |
| 17:30.22 | ^Migs^ | is MASH really that great of a show, and I just don't understand its greatness? |
| 17:30.34 | ^Migs^ | I realize that |
| 17:30.40 | RyanE_ | it was pretty good, then they got all touchy-feely when Alan Alda started directing. |
| 17:30.52 | RyanE_ | IMHO, that's when it jumped the shark. |
| 17:30.57 | mheath | ^Migs^: how old are you? |
| 17:31.01 | mheath | Just wondering. |
| 17:31.06 | ^Migs^ | "jump the shark" is not a colloquialism |
| 17:31.36 | sjansen | IMHO, the point where RyanE_ jumped the shark was when he used the phrase "jumped the shark" |
| 17:32.55 | ^Migs^ | I'm 26 |
| 17:33.02 | ^Migs^ | wait |
| 17:33.05 | ^Migs^ | yeah, I'm 26 |
| 17:33.11 | ^Migs^ | thought I was 25 for a minute there |
| 17:33.32 | sjansen | ~dict colloquialism |
| 17:33.33 | mheath | I immensely enjoy MASH. |
| 17:34.00 | ^Migs^ | did I use it wrong? |
| 17:34.19 | ^Migs^ | stop disagreeing with me |
| 17:34.21 | RyanE_ | ^Migs^: yeah, you'd be a big hit over in #english |
| 17:34.44 | mheath | Wow, RyanE_, that was probably hte most stupidly immature comment I've ever heard in here! |
| 17:34.46 | mheath | Congratulations! |
| 17:34.55 | RyanE_ | coming from you, that's quite an honor. |
| 17:35.26 | mheath | Hey, I'm many things, but I'm not stupidly immature. |
| 17:35.44 | mheath | Opinionated, Conceited, yes. |
| 17:36.18 | RyanE_ | I'd argue that your comment about my being stupidly immature is in itself stupidly immature. |
| 17:36.49 | RyanE_ | but, whatever. |
| 17:37.00 | mheath | No. You sound like an annoying elementary school aged child |
| 17:37.18 | mheath | Someone uses a big vocabulary word - "you'd be a big hit over in #english" |
| 17:37.29 | mheath | Someone says your immature - No, YOUR immature! |
| 17:37.34 | RyanE_ | hehe. |
| 17:37.36 | mheath | s/YOUR/YOU'RE/g |
| 17:38.16 | RyanE_ | I'm just pointing out that whether or not "jumping the shark" is a colloquialism is not the point, and that people who would rather argue over what is proper english in IRC are ridiculous |
| 17:38.58 | mheath | RyanE_: Read up. At no point was anyone arguing about proper grammer. |
| 17:38.58 | RyanE_ | and then, to be called immature by mheath, that just takes the cake. And this is where ^Migs^ will tell me that "takes the cake" is not a colloquialism. |
| 17:39.58 | ^Migs^ | I really don't think that was a "big vocabulary word" |
| 17:40.11 | ^Migs^ | you do realize that anytime you accuse someone else of using a "big word" that just makes you look stupid, right? |
| 17:40.27 | ^Migs^ | it basically means "I don't know what this word means, but I don't want to look dumb so I'll just pass the blame" |
| 17:42.05 | RyanE_ | sjansen: which part, that colloquialism isn't a big word, or that accusing someone else of using one makes you look stupid? |
| 17:42.25 | ^Migs^ | sjansen is just being disagreeable, that's okay |
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| 17:43.00 | sjansen | The equation of an aversion to "big words" to lack of intelligence is hardly a tautology. In fact, I'd argue that an awareness of and ability to use only common English while still possessing a large vocabulary is the mark of a more refined intelligence. |
| 17:43.11 | Jayce^ | ^Migs^, better be, 'cause he's always like that |
| 17:43.29 | goozbach | "I just choose not to employ it" |
| 17:43.31 | RyanE | sjansen: agreed |
| 17:43.38 | goozbach | -- uh-huh |
| 17:44.40 | ^Migs^ | hmm, I agree, sjansen |
| 17:44.58 | ^Migs^ | my apologies |
| 17:45.17 | ^Migs^ | I think a "big word" is defined as something that doesn't seem common usage |
| 17:45.28 | ^Migs^ | *doesn't see |
| 17:46.59 | sjansen | *sigh* |
| 17:47.07 | dataw0lf | heh |
| 17:48.23 | ^Migs^ | I think we're all forgetting how awesome I am |
| 17:48.58 | emcnabb | mheath: we're you taking a long break from IRC? I thought you had uninstalled all the IRC clients from your system |
| 17:48.59 | RyanE | hehe. Yeah, and that *genius* idea of yours. "hotties need not apply" |
| 17:49.01 | dataw0lf | that assumes you were awesome to begin with. |
| 17:49.38 | sjansen | Your awesomeness overwhelms me. I can't help but over compensate, even though I know I'm doing it, faced sheer, unadulterated awesomeness I lose control. |
| 17:49.39 | harleypig | http://tlf.cx/gigaflapping.html |
| 17:49.56 | harleypig | Or did I gte that from plug? |
| 17:50.01 | mheath | emcnabb: I kinda did. I realized that I could make IRC less of a distraction, though. |
| 17:50.22 | goozbach | mheath: I could help you not have the #utah distraction |
| 17:50.28 | goozbach | one little +b and one little /kick |
| 17:50.33 | goozbach | and you're set |
| 17:50.53 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 17:51.19 | goozbach | blast I have to finish packing by 2pm today |
| 17:51.43 | Jayce^ | goozbach, just stick around one more day and come out by my place tomorrow :) |
| 17:52.05 | harleypig | Don't forget http://www.computerworld.com/departments/opinions/sharktank |
| 17:52.23 | goozbach | Jayce^: I wish I could |
| 17:52.41 | goozbach | but I have to drive to Southern Utah to pick up my father |
| 17:52.52 | brac | [Shark Tank: Because now you've got experience, see?] |
| 17:52.58 | goozbach | and then we pick up the penske truck at 8am |
| 17:53.23 | goozbach | Jayce^: tell you what... I'll get on a team down in FL |
| 17:53.43 | goozbach | and we'll get together and do a couple matches |
| 17:53.49 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 17:53.56 | goozbach | Desert's edge flys to FL |
| 17:54.01 | goozbach | we fly up here |
| 17:54.21 | goozbach | R.E.M. rocks |
| 17:54.59 | sjansen | You can't disagree with me! I refuse to disagree! I'm going to agree to disagree!... Wait... No I'm not! I'm going to disagree to disagree... is that disagree to agree? |
| 17:56.42 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 17:57.14 | ^Migs^ | sjansen: I concur. |
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| 18:20.43 | Hhhhh | ~rlart |
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| 18:26.44 | QBFreak | ~lart sjansen |
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| 18:56.37 | goozbach | ok I fell off the wagon |
| 18:56.43 | goozbach | I found a new addiction |
| 18:56.49 | goozbach | TAB enegery drink |
| 18:58.46 | RyanE | Yeah, my mom used to drink TAB. She said it was an 'energy drink', too. |
| 19:16.44 | ^Migs^ | I just buy the generic soda from Wal-Mart |
| 19:16.52 | ^Migs^ | like Diet Dr. Thunder |
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| 19:43.08 | TheDiff | good morning! |
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| 20:11.22 | TheDiff | who is well versed in php/mysql |
| 20:13.00 | mheath | TheDiff: Good Morning! |
| 20:15.25 | TheDiff | listen, it was morning when i said that |
| 20:15.29 | TheDiff | haha |
| 20:15.46 | maquis | TheDiff: for you... not for us |
| 20:16.52 | ^Migs^ | I am, TheDiff |
| 20:16.58 | ^Migs^ | at least I think I am |
| 20:18.07 | ^Migs^ | maybe I really suck at PHP/MySQL but only think I'm good |
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| 20:19.39 | TheDiff | haha, ^Migs^ i'll take that chance |
| 20:19.47 | mheath | How...Cartesian. I Code, Therefore I am good at coding. Or am I? =P |
| 20:19.59 | TheDiff | so there isnt any way to insert into multiple tables simultaneously, is there? |
| 20:20.38 | ^Migs^ | what do you mean insert multiple tables? |
| 20:20.51 | TheDiff | okay, so in one database I have multiple tables |
| 20:20.53 | ^Migs^ | just run a loop with multiple CREATE table cqueries |
| 20:20.57 | ^Migs^ | er |
| 20:20.59 | ^Migs^ | INSERT table queriews |
| 20:21.03 | TheDiff | but they have a join column |
| 20:21.12 | ^Migs^ | I don't think there is |
| 20:21.20 | ^Migs^ | hmmm |
| 20:21.21 | TheDiff | where the Primary Key in one (unique ID) is a column in another |
| 20:21.25 | ^Migs^ | wait |
| 20:21.26 | ^Migs^ | let me look |
| 20:21.36 | mheath | Song info, even |
| 20:21.44 | ^Migs^ | you CAN specify fields, and I'm wondering if you can specify tables |
| 20:21.47 | TheDiff | i kind of looked around the php docs, but I"m not too familiar with them and didn't relaly find anything |
| 20:21.53 | TheDiff | er, SQL |
| 20:22.11 | ^Migs^ | doesn't look like it: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/insert.html |
| 20:22.13 | TheDiff | according to this o'reilly handbook, inserting into multiple tables at once is only supported by Oracle |
| 20:22.17 | ^Migs^ | that's not traditional to SQL, |
| 20:22.21 | TheDiff | yeah |
| 20:22.24 | ^Migs^ | I've never heard of that in Oracle |
| 20:22.33 | ^Migs^ | but I mostly use MySQL, so I'm not that well-versed |
| 20:22.44 | ^Migs^ | you could do a stored procedure or something to make that happen, I suppose |
| 20:22.53 | ^Migs^ | meh, it's easier to just do it in PHP |
| 20:23.09 | TheDiff | yeah so, sometimes I need to do an insert into both tables |
| 20:23.20 | ^Migs^ | so you just have two insert statements |
| 20:23.22 | ^Migs^ | that's how I normally do it |
| 20:23.23 | TheDiff | but I need the primary key of the first table to go into the 2nd table |
| 20:23.25 | mheath | 4387 tracks of music! |
| 20:23.26 | mheath | :) |
| 20:23.26 | TheDiff | but i need it to be atomic |
| 20:23.30 | TheDiff | i'm afraid of data races |
| 20:23.30 | ^Migs^ | oh, that's easy |
| 20:23.39 | ^Migs^ | mysql_insert_id |
| 20:23.50 | ^Migs^ | http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-insert-id.php |
| 20:23.58 | TheDiff | yeah but what if thsi situation comes along |
| 20:24.03 | TheDiff | insert into Table1 |
| 20:24.13 | TheDiff | i call to mysql_insert_id() |
| 20:24.25 | TheDiff | but between the time of the insert & the call, another client inserted into Table1 |
| 20:24.32 | TheDiff | and then I get the wrong ID |
| 20:24.42 | ^Migs^ | I don't think it behaves like that, but how many clients do you have? |
| 20:24.45 | TheDiff | so when I go to add it into Table2, then my database is all messed up |
| 20:25.08 | ^Migs^ | you call mysql_insert_id immediately after the last performed query. You won't have any problems |
| 20:25.31 | TheDiff | but if its for a website, isn't it possible for multiple people to be accessing the database simultaneously |
| 20:25.46 | sjansen | based on the design, a decent database will keep the information updated per connection |
| 20:25.54 | TheDiff | i'm not sure if theres a unique session ID attributed with mysql connections |
| 20:25.57 | ^Migs^ | I think you'd only have a problem if you have a million people doing an insert at the exact same time. |
| 20:25.57 | TheDiff | and if that will protect it |
| 20:26.06 | ^Migs^ | no, but you can make one |
| 20:26.24 | ^Migs^ | this really shouldn't be an issue, though |
| 20:26.30 | TheDiff | okay |
| 20:26.39 | ^Migs^ | just use insert_id immediately after the last insert |
| 20:26.44 | TheDiff | yeah |
| 20:26.47 | ^Migs^ | which is really the only instance you'd use it anyway, in most cases |
| 20:26.55 | ^Migs^ | seriously, consider how fast these inserts are going as it is |
| 20:28.19 | TheDiff | just wanted to make sure |
| 20:28.30 | ^Migs^ | there's also this, THeDIff: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/getting-unique-id.html |
| 20:28.41 | ^Migs^ | more info on mysql_insert_id |
| 20:28.46 | ^Migs^ | it's really quite stable and reliable |
| 20:30.42 | TheDiff | thanks |
| 20:30.59 | ^Migs^ | np |
| 20:38.34 | mheath | Thousands of songs....Songs for me....Thousands of Songs....Songs for free. |
| 20:38.36 | mheath | Mmmm |
| 20:38.50 | TheDiff | pirate |
| 20:39.08 | ^Migs^ | ARRRRR |
| 20:39.17 | mheath | TheDiff: What? This is legitimate. |
| 20:39.25 | ^Migs^ | you song whore |
| 20:39.30 | TheDiff | thats what they all say |
| 20:39.41 | mheath | TheDiff: I'm borrowing my brothers legally purchased music collection. |
| 20:40.08 | mheath | And, er.....breaking the copy protection to do it =P |
| 20:41.49 | TheDiff | yep |
| 20:41.50 | TheDiff | haha |
| 20:42.02 | ^Migs^ | in France, that would be legal |
| 20:42.37 | mheath | Haha |
| 20:42.50 | mheath | Rhythmbox didn't like it when I clicked on the tab to sort by album |
| 20:43.04 | mheath | apparently it has problems with sorting 5,000 songs by album |
| 20:43.12 | TheDiff | ew, rhythmbox |
| 20:43.37 | mheath | TheDiff: I don't like it, but XMMS is horrible at sorting through and dealing with this many files |
| 20:44.04 | mheath | By the way, I now have like 15 hours of beatles music =P |
| 20:44.14 | ^Migs^ | did the Beatles even record 15 hours of music? |
| 20:45.27 | mheath | Yes. |
| 20:45.37 | mheath | Erm, I have 9 hours |
| 20:45.46 | mheath | I was jut realizing |
| 20:45.48 | TheDiff | ew |
| 20:45.50 | mheath | With this ipod of my brothers.... |
| 20:46.00 | mheath | I could sit and listen to music continuously for the next 3 months |
| 20:46.04 | TheDiff | i want to work for these guys soooo bad |
| 20:46.06 | TheDiff | http://www.songbirdnest.com/jobs#Designer |
| 20:46.07 | mheath | and never once hear the same song twice |
| 20:47.50 | TheDiff | except i do embedded systems, not desktop applications :( |
| 20:48.03 | ^Migs^ | nice job |
| 20:50.43 | ^Migs^ | wtq? I think there's a wasp nest in my house. |
| 20:50.46 | TheDiff | embedded systems engineers get all the chicks |
| 20:50.49 | TheDiff | hahaha |
| 20:50.53 | TheDiff | thats hot |
| 20:51.08 | TheDiff | maybe you can like, extract honey from it |
| 20:51.14 | TheDiff | even though wasps don't do that |
| 20:51.21 | TheDiff | but hey. maybe they are super wasps. |
| 20:51.28 | ^Migs^ | no way, portal developers have all the honeys |
| 20:51.31 | TheDiff | haha |
| 20:51.33 | ^Migs^ | MUTANT super wasps |
| 20:51.37 | mheath | Hey |
| 20:51.46 | mheath | MARINES get all the chicks :)] |
| 20:51.48 | ^Migs^ | there were some mutant wasps crawling out of a hole in the ceiling above my cubicle a few months ago |
| 20:52.06 | ^Migs^ | they didn't have wings or anything, but my coworker said definitively that they were wasps |
| 20:52.07 | TheDiff | marines get all the ugly chicks who go to my school |
| 20:52.21 | mheath | O.o |
| 20:52.30 | TheDiff | they evolved |
| 20:52.36 | ^Migs^ | the marines evolved? |
| 20:52.36 | TheDiff | they didnt need wings |
| 20:52.44 | ^Migs^ | yeah, they float through telekinesis |
| 20:52.56 | TheDiff | the W.A.S.P.s evolved |
| 20:53.02 | ^Migs^ | haha |
| 20:53.09 | mheath | ^Migs^: Yeah. They now have cone heads. No longer jarheads. |
| 20:53.18 | mheath | Coneheads are highly evolved people, you know. |
| 20:53.22 | ^Migs^ | these were all black, too. No yellow. |
| 20:53.34 | ^Migs^ | it FREAKED ME OUT when they started falling on my desk |
| 20:53.44 | ^Migs^ | the secretary had to come and kill them for me |
| 20:53.54 | TheDiff | "there were white anglo-saxon protestants crawling through the hole in my ceiling. it was pretty messed up." |
| 20:53.59 | TheDiff | hahaha |
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| 20:54.03 | TheDiff | the secretary |
| 20:54.07 | ^Migs^ | omg, that's funny |
| 20:54.20 | ^Migs^ | now they're not just Protestants. They're EVANGELICALS. |
| 20:54.24 | ^Migs^ | that's evolution |
| 20:54.27 | TheDiff | hahahaa |
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| 21:04.43 | mheath | You're just jealous that I'm going to get all the ladies. |
| 21:05.31 | mheath | ;-P |
| 21:07.16 | TheDiff | i'm not to worried about that yet |
| 21:07.34 | TheDiff | maybe in 5 years, when you are in my age range |
| 21:08.44 | {-} | ~rlart |
| 21:09.50 | TheDiff | woah there |
| 21:10.38 | {-} | -rlart |
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| 21:20.11 | ^Migs^ | -> *nickserv* identify rxp2048 |
| 21:20.17 | ^Migs^ | oops |
| 21:20.22 | ^Migs^ | whoa crap |
| 21:21.22 | TheDiff | hahaha |
| 21:21.31 | TheDiff | you better change that |
| 21:21.46 | ^Migs^ | already did |
| 21:21.56 | atoponce | lol |
| 21:22.15 | TheDiff | yeah, nickserve's method for identifying suck |
| 21:22.16 | TheDiff | s |
| 21:22.31 | ^Migs^ | what do you propose? |
| 21:23.40 | mheath | Server passwords would be better |
| 21:23.44 | mheath | do it via server password |
| 21:23.59 | TheDiff | i dont know, all i know is that its mega-error-prone |
| 21:24.09 | mheath | Something cleaner, built into the protocol, rather than messaging a user |
| 21:24.14 | mheath | My brother has too much music on this ipod |
| 21:24.53 | mheath | 3 hour hike =] |
| 21:24.54 | mheath | =\ |
| 21:26.12 | TheDiff | its only a hike |
| 21:26.15 | TheDiff | its not like you are running |
| 21:26.30 | mheath | TheDiff: Its a rapid pace, over a pretty long distance. |
| 21:26.38 | mheath | TheDiff: I'm doing this with US Marines |
| 21:27.33 | mheath | They feed us well, though. A whole MRE, just for this. |
| 21:27.55 | mheath | I didn't know that recruiters had that kind of financing. MREs are like 8 dollars a piece. |
| 21:29.34 | mheath | Are you comfortable with where your tax dollars are going? Thats like $150 to recruiters right there, for one group's 4 hour exercise |
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| 21:31.22 | TheDiff | no, i'm not comfortable with where my tax dollars are going |
| 21:31.33 | TheDiff | mostly to private jets for politicians |
| 21:32.47 | mheath | Also, I'm not convinced this particular recruiter ever remembers who I am. |
| 21:33.04 | mheath | That is, when I call him, I'm not convinced he really knows who hes talking to. |
| 21:35.30 | sjansen | Whoa, cool. ${1+"$@"} |
| 21:37.04 | mheath | OK |
| 21:37.08 | TheDiff | um |
| 21:37.26 | mheath | I can understand people mistaking me for 18 or so |
| 21:37.29 | mheath | BUT COME ON |
| 21:37.33 | mheath | I am NOT the owner of this house |
| 21:37.47 | mheath | And don't make me feel guilty for not doating to the wheelchair basketball association |
| 21:37.51 | mheath | I don't have money |
| 21:37.54 | mheath | money on me |
| 21:38.22 | mheath | And I'd rather donate my money to more worthy casues, like.....stopping people from dieing, or...getting people wheelchairs...or, preventing things that cause poeple to be in wheelchairs. |
| 21:40.12 | mheath | My list of "causes to donate to" has a priority hierarchy |
| 21:40.14 | TheDiff | what the hell are you talking about? |
| 21:40.25 | mheath | And paying for people to play basketball, whether their in wheelchairs or not, is not high on it. |
| 21:40.27 | sjansen | ~language TheDiff |
| 21:40.28 | ibot | ACTION grabs TheDiff by the ear and washes TheDiff's mouth out with soap |
| 21:40.35 | TheDiff | dude i'm serious |
| 21:40.37 | mheath | TheDiff: Some guy just came to my door and wanted me to buy some coupon book |
| 21:40.38 | TheDiff | hes just talking |
| 21:40.43 | TheDiff | oh |
| 21:40.53 | mheath | To fund a wheelchair basketball association |
| 21:40.54 | TheDiff | c'mon little frame of reference here |
| 21:41.09 | mheath | He thought that, number one, I was the owner of the household |
| 21:41.14 | TheDiff | just tell him you are allergic to wheel chairs |
| 21:41.26 | mheath | I mean, come on. I'm commonly mistaken for being 18-19 years old. |
| 21:41.44 | mheath | But how many 18-19 year olds do you know that can afford a house in this neighborhood?! |
| 21:43.04 | obfuscated | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.19 | TheDiff | i dontk now, but they're probably all defaulting on their mortgages in this market |
| 21:43.28 | sjansen | obfuscated: nope, shell script |
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| 21:43.51 | mheath | sjansen: when will said cookie be delivered? |
| 21:43.54 | obfuscated | oh - nm then. If it were Perl I'd love to know ;-) |
| 21:43.56 | mheath | and how? |
| 21:44.01 | mheath | And how large is this cookie? |
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| 21:46.55 | jsmith | -seen elg |
| 21:46.55 | brac | elg was last seen 2 hours, 6 minutes and 46 seconds ago, quiting IRC () |
| 21:48.02 | mrpull- | sjansen: what does it do? give a count of arguments? |
| 21:49.12 | mheath | I really hope I can keep up on that hike |
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| 21:51.25 | sjansen | If you don't put variable references in quotes, they will get re-tokenized. If you write a shell script or function that deals with arguments, you have to use "$1" "$2" "$3", etc. Which leads to problems if you have to handle an arbitrary number of arguments. The quoted string "$@" expands out to the correct number of arguments without retokenizing them. Unfortunately, if no arguments are passed it expands to a single empty argument, which can ca |
| 21:51.25 | sjansen | use problems for certain programs. |
| 21:52.36 | sjansen | ${1+"$@"} means, if there was at least one argument, use "$@", but if there weren't any, it will turn into zero arguments |
| 21:52.36 | mrpull- | can I have a cookie crumb? |
| 21:52.48 | sjansen | nope |
| 21:52.52 | mrpull- | rats. |
| 21:52.57 | mrpull- | ~crotchkick sjansen |
| 21:53.11 | mheath | crotchkick? Isn't that a little violent?! |
| 21:53.17 | sjansen | Not my fault you didn't even bother checking man to see if you answer was reasonable. |
| 21:54.07 | mrpull- | sjansen: i'm lazy... thanks for the insight |
| 21:54.34 | mrpull- | mheath: a crotchkick is a lot less violent than what you'll have to endure in boot camp :) |
| 21:54.50 | mheath | Bah. They can't touch me, and they can't swear at me. Common misconception |
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| 21:55.17 | mheath | (They can, however, make me do pushups until I vomit and yell in my ear until I'm hard of hearing :-P ) |
| 21:55.45 | TheTiGuR | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.05 | TheTiGuR | Too many whiny recruits with over protective mothers writing to congressmen |
| 21:56.05 | mheath | Indeed |
| 21:56.15 | mrpull- | first they'll teach you to say "They can't touch me, and they can't swear at me. Common misconception"... then kick the crap out of you until you can repeat it convincingly enough to trick other recruits |
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| 21:56.27 | mheath | All its led to is pretend Marine Corp swear words |
| 21:56.41 | mheath | "What is your PROBLEM, YOOHOO!? Huh, CRAZY?!" Etc. |
| 21:56.47 | sjansen | ~rlart |
| 21:57.25 | mheath | mrpull: They've relaxed it a lot |
| 21:57.36 | mheath | You are guaranteed 6 hours of sleep, for example |
| 21:57.51 | sjansen | goozbach: Where's TheTiGuR now, where's TheTiGuR now? |
| 21:57.54 | mheath | You are guaranteed to have opportunities to write home. |
| 21:58.11 | sjansen | o/~ Bill Waterson please don't fear me. ~/o |
| 21:58.25 | mheath | You are guaranteed to have an hour of freetime (though that can be withheld for disciplinary measures) |
| 21:58.53 | mheath | freetime = time to work on your uniform, shine shoes, write home, and study. Free time is not free. |
| 22:00.33 | sjansen | http://trapezoid.hostdime.com/lemondemon/Bill%20Watterson.mp3 |
| 22:08.32 | Jayce^ | w00t! harleypig has his hackergotchi up now |
| 22:09.41 | sjansen | rock on :-) |
| 22:10.02 | mheath | ah, what movie did I see that uses this in its soundtrack?! |
| 22:10.12 | mheath | the Beatles - Across the Universe |
| 22:10.46 | TheDiff | you can't listen to Beatles in the Corp |
| 22:10.49 | TheDiff | they will wail on you |
| 22:11.05 | mheath | haha |
| 22:11.14 | mheath | I was sitting in a GNU Hurd IRC channel |
| 22:11.24 | TheDiff | you have to listen to something like Alice In Chains |
| 22:11.28 | mheath | and I mentioned (forgot why - part of a convo) that I was going into the US military. The Marine Corp. |
| 22:11.32 | mheath | Next thing I know: |
| 22:11.42 | mheath | "WHAT? A free software commie in MY CORP?!" |
| 22:11.50 | TheDiff | haha |
| 22:12.00 | mheath | This guy who I thought was french....turns out he's very American :) |
| 22:18.40 | maquis | http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=127 |
| 22:20.41 | phinux | Saw that one. That's as good as it gets. |
| 22:24.10 | sjansen | *sigh* |
| 22:24.24 | sjansen | Day by day my faith in humanity dies a little more. |
| 22:24.28 | phinux | Makes you want to switch to CentOS. If they're that helpful when they didn't cause the problem... |
| 22:25.14 | maquis | phinux: true |
| 22:25.43 | maquis | on some level, it would've been interesting if he'd actually posted to the newspaper, but i wonder how many people would've actually understood... |
| 22:26.01 | phinux | I think enough people would have. |
| 22:29.17 | maquis | phinux: i'm kinda curious about this guy's "22 |
| 22:29.18 | maquis | years in computer systems engineering and operation" |
| 22:30.45 | phinux | Solitaire. |
| 22:34.44 | maquis | haha |
| 22:34.52 | maquis | w00t! |
| 22:34.57 | maquis | i think i got something to start working |
| 22:34.58 | TheDiff | haha |
| 22:35.04 | TheDiff | oklahoma is teh sucks |
| 22:35.04 | maquis | and the funny thing is... i don't think i changed anything |
| 22:52.06 | mrpull- | sjansen: are you still using bloglines? |
| 22:52.28 | sjansen | yup |
| 22:52.42 | sjansen | I've thought about switching to other stuff, but haven't done it yet. |
| 22:53.17 | mrpull- | isn't there some other ajaxy buzzword compliant webbased reader out there that keeps all the goodness of bloglines but is better yet? |
| 22:54.08 | mrpull- | google's reader was a letdown to me... not enough info on the screen at once |
| 22:59.50 | TheDiff | yeah, google's reader is pretty buggy |
| 22:59.54 | TheDiff | which makes me sad |
| 23:00.02 | TheDiff | because i <3 the little scrolly bar |
| 23:04.50 | mrpull- | the scrolly bar is no good for me :) |
| 23:09.06 | TheDiff | mrpull-: you no likey? |
| 23:09.49 | mrpull- | nope. i like how bloglines makes better use of the space on my screen |
| 23:09.57 | mrpull- | i can see more at a glance |
| 23:10.08 | mrpull- | with google there is too much scrolling around |
| 23:10.35 | mrpull- | but last time i tried it I had ~200 feeds |
| 23:11.19 | mrpull- | i pared that back to ~125 now |
| 23:12.46 | TheDiff | you |
| 23:12.48 | TheDiff | have a problem. |
| 23:12.50 | TheDiff | haha |
| 23:13.02 | mrpull- | indeed I do. sensory overload for sure. |
| 23:14.20 | TheDiff | i just UML'd the tables in the database |
| 23:14.22 | TheDiff | i have a problem too |
| 23:16.28 | mrpull- | TheDiff: that sounds far to productive for a Friday afternoon |
| 23:17.10 | mrpull- | s/to/too/ |
| 23:19.21 | TheDiff | haha |
| 23:19.23 | TheDiff | agreed |
| 23:22.28 | TheDiff | guess what today is |
| 23:25.40 | mrpull- | Friday? |
| 23:25.57 | TheDiff | PAYDAYYYY |
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| 23:30.12 | mrpull- | TheDiff: Living check to check? |
| 23:30.13 | nick125 | damn connection is going out again.. |
| 23:30.25 | TheDiff | mrpull-: haha no |
| 23:30.33 | TheDiff | blowing money check to check |
| 23:30.44 | mrpull- | Payday isn't as cool to me as it used to be... |
| 23:30.47 | TheDiff | yeah |
| 23:30.54 | mrpull- | ahhhh, but you get to blow your money :) |
| 23:31.08 | TheDiff | i only blow a little bit |
| 23:31.12 | TheDiff | i've been saving most of it |
| 23:31.17 | ^Migs^ | the more you make, the more you spend |
| 23:31.20 | TheDiff | gotta put my sister through college :) |
| 23:51.17 | TheDiff | profound! |
