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| 00:56.31 | mheath | Heh, so much for my dad supporting me in whatever I choose to do with my life |
| 00:56.43 | maquis | mheath: ?? |
| 00:57.54 | mheath | maquis: I'm planning on enlisting in the US Navy when I turn 17 (need parental approval to enlist at 17). I mention to my dad that I was looking into the Marine Corp instead and his instant reaction is that he won't let me enlist at 17 with the USMC. Not only that, he told me that there was no way I would succeed at USMC boot map. |
| 00:58.00 | mheath | s/map/camp/g |
| 00:58.30 | maquis | mheath: so, he'll support you if you want to go into the navy, but not the marines... |
| 00:58.43 | mheath | maquis: Yep. |
| 00:58.45 | maquis | and he thinks you can get through navy boot camp, but not marines boot camp? |
| 00:59.09 | mheath | maquis: Well, Marine boot camp is insanely harder in every way. But...still. |
| 00:59.15 | maquis | still... |
| 00:59.29 | maquis | did you ask him why he won't support you if you go to the marines? |
| 01:00.42 | mheath | maquis: He says I'm guaranteed to fail. And its his job as a parent to help me make decisions that will help me succeed in life. |
| 01:00.51 | mheath | I dunno. I was just looking into the USMC... |
| 01:00.55 | mheath | I'm pretty sure about Navy |
| 01:01.25 | maquis | i dunno |
| 01:02.01 | mheath | The chance for travel! The nice job! The certainty of success! I love the uniforms, I love the traditions. And, as stupid as it sounds, I like the idea of flying down the highway in my cracker jacks in the nice convertible sports car my pay helped me afford. |
| 01:02.20 | maquis | i've never had kids, but i think that sometimes, it's important for kids to have the opportunity to sink or float... if it's not something that's actually going to get them killed, it seems like it's worthwhile.... |
| 01:02.55 | maquis | and in the case of the marines/navy, i wouldn't think that the chance of getting killed would be significantly different (although, i'll admit a high level of ignorance on that issue) |
| 01:03.37 | mheath | But at the same time...I went to a field leadership training in December. Training in the field. And I just loved something about being assigned to a recon team with a group of guys I've grown to trust. Creeping through the forest, silently. Carrying my M16A2 mockup rifle. I was cold, I was hungry, but I was havening the time of my life |
| 01:03.38 | maquis | preventing a kid from trying out for a sport team because they won't get in seems kinda silly to me |
| 01:04.21 | mheath | And on top of that, its a challenge. I'm not certain I'd succeed - USMC boot camp is *very* *very* hard. Its a challenge. Solidified now by my dads belief that I'm destined for failure |
| 01:04.41 | maquis | marines would be more similar to the december training, right? |
| 01:04.54 | mheath | maquis: far, far more :) |
| 01:04.57 | maquis | :) |
| 01:05.25 | maquis | so, tell your dad that you know there's a risk that you won't succeed, but that you really want to try, and put in your best effort |
| 01:05.40 | maquis | if you don't try, you'll never know if you could've done it |
| 01:05.43 | mheath | I like things like this. I like being able to look back on something and say "Wow. I never thought, in the middle of it, that I'd be able to finish - but I did!" |
| 01:06.28 | mheath | maquis: I said that. "The worst that would happen is I fail, come back, and enlist in the navy." He still vetoed it, and never really gave a response to that. |
| 01:06.44 | maquis | honestly, my parents aren't *overly* different from yours... my parents spent quite a while trying to talk me out of CS because they pointed out that my grades weren't that great, and they decided that that meant i probably wasn't meant for the field... |
| 01:07.21 | maquis | my grades still aren't great, but i'm still kicking |
| 01:21.44 | jlp_work | mheath: I'm reminded of a little song: I joined the Navy, to see the world! |
| 01:21.49 | jlp_work | And what did I see? |
| 01:21.51 | jlp_work | I saw the sea. |
| 01:22.32 | jlp_work | but seriously, if you want to go for the marines, your dad can't stop you (once you turn 18, at least) |
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| 01:37.40 | maquis | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 |
| 01:38.58 | mheath | jlp_work: Thanks. I'm currently involved with a Navy related youth organization (similar to NJROTC) and I'm moderately familiar with a lot of this. |
| 01:39.59 | jlp_work | yeah, I remember talking to you about your training thing you were going on... how did that turn out, anyway? have a lot of fun, get cold, wet, and tired? :-) |
| 01:40.33 | mheath | My biggest problem with all of this is that it made me realize my dad is not at all understanding or proud about some of my accomplishments that I thought he was. He does not think I've developed or that I even understand certain character attributes. |
| 01:41.57 | jlp_work | so long as you know... that's what matters |
| 01:42.17 | maquis | jlp_work: but if he has to get his dad to sign so he can join at 17.... |
| 01:42.33 | jlp_work | what I was saying above is that if you want to do something (or even just try something), go for it. don't let someone else's opinion slow you down (and be 18 first, of course :-) |
| 01:42.56 | jlp_work | are you trying to get in EIP or something like that? |
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| 01:56.53 | maquis | http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/curves.jpg |
| 01:57.56 | jlp_work | maquis: heh heh, seen it before. I like the vi and emacs curves. |
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| 01:58.23 | maquis | jlp_work: :) |
| 01:58.30 | nick125_ | haah |
| 01:58.46 | maquis | the visual studio one's pretty true too |
| 01:58.52 | jlp_work | yeah |
| 01:59.02 | maquis | vi's is too true |
| 01:59.31 | jlp_work | emacs is a death spiral (and I really like emacs :-) |
| 01:59.45 | jlp_work | 'course, I like vi, too |
| 02:35.41 | nick125_ | ibot: 6 |
| 02:35.48 | ibot | 6 is a number, silly |
| 02:35.48 | nick125_ | err |
| 02:36.06 | nick125_ | I'm really starting to dislike tab complete.. |
| 02:39.37 | maquis | it's good stuff |
| 02:39.40 | jlp_work | I've had pepper relish, though... tasty |
| 02:40.13 | maquis | i usually like red-pepper jelly... but at the store, i could only find jalapeno |
| 02:40.30 | maquis | it's pretty good too, although it gets more weird looks than the red stuff |
| 02:45.20 | jlp_work | do you eat it on toast? with peanut butter? |
| 02:46.03 | jlp_work | gah, load average 656.94 |
| 02:46.13 | maquis | i usually just have it on bread... real adults (people with jobs and an income) usually like it on french bread or nice crackers or something |
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| 02:46.53 | maquis | speaking of french bread... i should probably get some, and some cream cheese, to have with my lox |
| 02:46.57 | jlp_work | may have to try it, but it would be for me only (my wife usually isn't into spicy stuff) |
| 02:47.17 | maquis | try it, and see... it might not be too spicy for her... |
| 02:47.31 | maquis | it's got a bit of kick, but at the same time, it's really sweet |
| 02:48.07 | maquis | it's not the easiest thing to find around here, from what i can see |
| 02:48.21 | maquis | it's pretty big back home, though |
| 02:48.26 | maquis | well... not that big |
| 02:48.32 | jlp_work | :-) |
| 02:48.36 | maquis | but reasonably popular, at least among people i know :) |
| 02:48.47 | maquis | and it's definitely easier to find in seattle |
| 02:49.06 | maquis | the store my family goes to usually has at least 4-5 different types |
| 02:49.29 | jlp_work | is it an ethnic type of food? or do you just find it in the regular jelly section? |
| 02:49.32 | maquis | it seems to me that utah seems to have less "different" foods than seattle does... |
| 02:49.37 | maquis | it's in the regular jelly section |
| 02:49.43 | jlp_work | utah is pretty mundane |
| 02:49.51 | maquis | i doubt it's ethnic... my first place having it was actually in montana when i was little |
| 02:50.07 | maquis | my parents loved it, but i'd never had any until we were at a little jams/jellies place there, and i wanted some |
| 02:50.42 | jlp_work | hmmm, I'm from Montana and don't recall ever seeing it :-) |
| 02:50.51 | maquis | (my parents have always been really good about letting me try new things, but usually let me decide i wanted to try it |
| 02:50.52 | jlp_work | well, "from" as much as I'm from anywhere |
| 02:51.01 | maquis | jlp_work: it's a little place near big-fork that we went to |
| 02:51.10 | maquis | they have a million different types of jams and jellies there |
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| 02:51.22 | maquis | unless i'm completely mis-remembering where i first had it... |
| 02:54.31 | jlp_work | well, I'm going to go home |
| 02:54.37 | maquis | good idea |
| 02:54.40 | maquis | it's almost 8 |
| 02:55.12 | jlp_work | yeah, late night... came in late today |
| 02:55.18 | maquis | still |
| 02:55.25 | maquis | should go home |
| 02:56.12 | jlp_work | yep, I'm outta here... see ya |
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| 04:08.57 | mheath | oops, accidentally parted. Did someone say my name? |
| 04:09.42 | nick125_ | I don't think so.. |
| 04:13.17 | mheath | Hmm, it beeped and acted like someone had. Odd. |
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| 04:15.16 | emcnabb | beep |
| 04:15.38 | RyanE | bop boop |
| 04:17.10 | emcnabb | bleep blop |
| 04:17.19 | emcnabb | RyanE: how's it going? |
| 04:18.32 | levi | I wish Sasha had picked a more interesting problem for his little 'quiz'. |
| 04:21.10 | tensai | calling all MSSQL server gurus |
| 04:22.19 | tensai | speaking of that, I just realized that I actually do have a flame retardant suit. perhaps I should go grab it. |
| 04:22.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not a guru |
| 04:22.33 | ScytheBlade1 | But I have made stuff that runs on it |
| 04:22.37 | tensai | more so than me, I assure you :) |
| 04:22.54 | ScytheBlade1 | No offense, but ask quick |
| 04:22.57 | tensai | I have a few tables which mysteriously changed owner. I need to change them back. |
| 04:23.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a migraine and want to sleep ;) |
| 04:23.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Use the enterprise manager |
| 04:23.20 | tensai | ok, I'm there. I see where to change permissions but not owner. |
| 04:23.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I know that you *can* in there |
| 04:23.48 | ScytheBlade1 | It's been a while ;) |
| 04:23.56 | tensai | at least I'm looking in the right spot. thanks. |
| 04:24.31 | ScytheBlade1 | A quick google turned up a lot |
| 04:24.55 | ScytheBlade1 | sp_changeobjectowner '[dnnadmin].[aspsearch]' , 'dbo' |
| 04:25.14 | ScytheBlade1 | (that's an example of the needed SQL) |
| 04:25.17 | ScytheBlade1 | syntax of: |
| 04:25.17 | ScytheBlade1 | sp_changeobjectowner [ @objname = ] 'object' , [ @newowner = ] 'owner' |
| 04:25.42 | tensai | beautiful |
| 04:25.57 | ScytheBlade1 | so, `sp_changeobjectowner '[db].[table]', 'newowner'` |
| 04:25.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Ought to work fine |
| 04:27.13 | ScytheBlade1 | That work? |
| 04:28.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, here's to hoping that it did |
| 04:28.07 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 04:28.08 | tensai | appears to have |
| 04:28.12 | ScytheBlade1 | oh, good |
| 04:28.13 | tensai | ScytheBlade1: thanks!!! |
| 04:28.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Have fun with that |
| 04:28.17 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, sure, no problem |
| 04:28.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Now I just have to go and cleanse myself... speaking of MSSQL in a linux IRC channel on freenode... ;) |
| 04:37.26 | RyanE | emcnabb: sorry, I always minimize the irssi/screen session... going well. and you? |
| 04:38.43 | RyanE | I need to have it play a sound or something if my name is mentioned... |
| 04:40.40 | tensai | xchat beeps at me. drives my wife nuts when she's checking her email and my window is up in another desktop. |
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| 04:41.10 | RyanE | I'm running windows at work, so I like irssi / screen, so I can swap back and forth, and not logout. |
| 04:41.47 | tensai | I can dig it. I use ctrlproxy so I can connect with xchat from anywhere. |
| 04:42.08 | tensai | if irssi is on your remote machine, won't that make it hard for it to play a sound locally? |
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| 04:42.24 | RyanE | I suspect it can send a 'bell' character |
| 04:42.33 | RyanE | and my terminal will beep on receiving it |
| 04:42.37 | tensai | ah. yeah, that would work. |
| 04:42.49 | RyanE | like a Ctrl-g, if ASCII has not changed... :) |
| 04:43.09 | tensai | I always silence my terminals so I forget they can do that |
| 04:44.34 | maquis | most of the people that arrive at my site don't have a referer! |
| 04:45.41 | goozbach | ok THIS is a first!!! |
| 04:46.23 | maquis | ???? |
| 04:46.34 | goozbach | a hotel which uses WEP |
| 04:46.40 | maquis | really? |
| 04:46.41 | maquis | wow! |
| 04:46.44 | goozbach | yeah!!! |
| 04:46.58 | goozbach | I was all pissed off cause I didn't think it was working |
| 04:47.32 | maquis | when in actuality, it's just that you have to pay (or crack the key?) |
| 04:48.16 | tensai | that's what I want to know, did they charge you extra for wifi access? |
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| 04:58.03 | goozbach | no nothing extra |
| 04:58.24 | goozbach | just went and asked what the key was |
| 04:59.08 | tensai | I wonder what the justification was for using WEP. I don't think I've ever been to a hotel that used encryption. |
| 05:05.43 | goozbach | I know |
| 05:06.32 | maquis | if goozbach hasn't been to a hotel that used encryption (til now), i'd say that's pretty conclusive |
| 05:07.14 | RyanE | yeah, but I have. Maybe I'm just staying in cheap places that are tightwad with their internet. |
| 05:08.10 | nick125 | http://news.com.com/McAfee%20update%20exterminates%20Excel/2100-1002_3-6048709.html?tag=newsmap < that wasn't an error in their anti-virus detection code! |
| 05:08.12 | brac | [McAfee update exterminates Excel | CNET News.com] |
| 05:08.33 | nick125 | or their definations files |
| 05:08.40 | tensai | I've seen some dumb ones, like the one in Rawlins, WY where all the APs are mounted with horizontal polarization |
| 05:09.02 | RyanE | that's for people who surf the internet while lying on their side in bed. :) |
| 05:10.08 | tensai | I tried it but it's really hard to type that way. I did verify that my signal increased. |
| 05:10.17 | RyanE | hehe |
| 05:10.24 | RyanE | funny. People are dumb. |
| 05:11.55 | tensai | I thought about fixing it for them, or maybe unplugging the AP and running cat 5 into my room |
| 05:12.35 | RyanE | In Vegas, I hooked up an AP to my ethernet cable for my co-worker and I to use, and other people from my company staying there found it and used it. |
| 05:13.10 | RyanE | of course, the ssid and password were the same as the ones we were using in the booth, so it auto-connected for most of us. |
| 05:13.15 | tensai | yeah, I should have fired up hostap and hijacked all the traffic |
| 05:14.19 | tensai | kinda like this, only not so explicit. http://www.evilscheme.org/defcon/ |
| 05:14.20 | brac | [Goatse at Defcon -- brought to you by airpwn] |
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| 05:14.26 | tensai | maquis: turn it on its side |
| 05:14.58 | maquis | tensai: by default, i'm assuming they work fine with the wireless card lying flat, then? |
| 05:15.05 | tensai | maquis: if your antenna points up, it has vertical polarization. if it points to the side, it's horizontal. |
| 05:15.23 | tensai | vertical is more common. horizontal is nice out side because it wraps around trees better. |
| 05:15.29 | maquis | what if they kinda point diagonal? :) |
| 05:15.39 | maquis | in opposite directions... |
| 05:15.43 | maquis | (on the router) |
| 05:16.10 | tensai | ~lart maquis |
| 05:16.20 | RyanE | well, most AP's use the antennas in 'diversity mode', which means it'll use the one that is getting the best signal at any point in time. |
| 05:17.25 | mheath | *sigh* my dad's crazy. Why does everyone in my family have to be so screwed up? |
| 05:17.42 | RyanE | if you're pointing them like rabbit ears \ / , it still should work. |
| 05:17.57 | tensai | there is 20 db of separation between horizontal and vertical, meaning that you can have two networks on the same channel with different polarizations and still get good signals on each. |
| 05:18.18 | maquis | interesting |
| 05:18.35 | mheath | maquis: remember how I told you that my dad was so against the USMC idea? |
| 05:19.16 | mheath | I think I found out why |
| 05:19.22 | mheath | I told my brother about this.... |
| 05:19.45 | mheath | See, my dads convinced that, several years ago, he received some revelations from god relevant to his family. |
| 05:20.01 | mheath | Apparently he told my brother of one where he foresaw my early death |
| 05:21.19 | mheath | Rather depressing |
| 05:21.44 | maquis | and he believes that having you go into the marines would make that come true, but having you go into the navy wouldn't? |
| 05:22.21 | maquis | for what it's worth, i hope the revelations don't come true |
| 05:22.38 | RyanE | as do we all, I suspect. |
| 05:23.05 | mheath | Indeed |
| 05:23.35 | maquis | i can understand why that would make it a bit harder on your dad, though |
| 05:38.05 | mheath | I'd likely be shipping off 1 week after I enlist....they have a ship date then. |
| 05:38.12 | mheath | If I can talk him into USMC, that is. |
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| 05:54.29 | findlay | is there any way to get vim to do PCRE? |
| 05:55.41 | maquis | ~pcre |
| 05:55.43 | ibot | A library that implements Perl 5-style regular expressions.. URL: ftp://ftp.cus.cam.ac.uk/pub/software/programs/pcre/ |
| 05:55.49 | maquis | ah |
| 05:59.26 | mheath | thats kinda scary |
| 05:59.47 | mheath | I could be in California in 3 months.. |
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| 06:00.29 | mheath | Anyway, goodnight! |
| 06:00.44 | maquis | mheath: gnight |
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| 07:08.23 | levi | It runs significantly faster than the C++ one, which is the fastest of the ones he's tested so far. |
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| 07:09.49 | levi | maquis: You almost certainly could have used OCaml for your Machine Learning class. It's seriously fast. But then you'd have had to learn it. :) |
| 07:10.36 | maquis | levi: true |
| 07:10.47 | maquis | and learning it would probably provide a good bit of overhead |
| 07:11.10 | levi | On the other hand, it might possibly save you from C grief, too. |
| 07:11.37 | levi | It didn't take me too long to learn enough to write that simple program in it. |
| 07:12.00 | maquis | it's bad when a homework question includes the statement "To answer this question, you will need to dig into the BGP specification" |
| 07:29.05 | findlay | ocaml is pretty fast |
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| 07:46.45 | levi | findlay: Do you know it well? |
| 07:47.38 | findlay | levi: only from one benchmark that I saw a long time ago, and, naturally that makes me an expert on how fast it is |
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| 13:24.07 | mheath | Good morning! |
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| 15:32.35 | sjansen | ~sneeze Jayce^ |
| 15:34.43 | dataw0lf | mmm morning |
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| 15:36.45 | goozbach | bah morning |
| 15:37.16 | Monk[AtWork] | morning isn't that bad |
| 15:37.58 | sjansen | ~snot Monk[AtWork] |
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| 15:38.27 | tensai | o/~ Money for nothin', and the chicks for free o/~ |
| 15:41.18 | sjansen | ~cough tensai |
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| 15:42.23 | sjansen | ~punish emcnabb & elg |
| 15:42.25 | ibot | ACTION forces emcnabb & elg to install and use Windows |
| 15:42.37 | elg | i'll install, he can use |
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| 15:44.42 | emcnabb | noooo!! |
| 15:44.57 | Hhhhh | yessss! |
| 15:45.05 | Hhhhh | wait, what are you guys talking about? |
| 15:45.42 | emcnabb | according to ibot and elg, I'm going to become a Windows user |
| 15:46.20 | Hhhhh | hehehe |
| 15:46.31 | Hhhhh | you should go to #waa then |
| 15:52.29 | maquis | ~mock emcnabb |
| 15:52.30 | ibot | ACTION pulls emcnabb's pants down and shows the world emcnabb's pink spotted underwear |
| 15:52.38 | maquis | ~lart Hhhhh |
| 15:52.43 | maquis | ~kill mornings |
| 15:52.44 | ibot | ACTION shoots a ionized electron gun at mornings |
| 15:52.55 | Hhhhh | heh |
| 15:53.07 | Hhhhh | windows roxorz!!! |
| 15:53.12 | ECS | ~lart maquis |
| 15:53.13 | Hhhhh | ~kill maquis |
| 15:53.15 | ibot | ACTION shoots a charged pseudograviton gun at maquis |
| 15:53.21 | ECS | ~fish maquis |
| 15:53.22 | ibot | ACTION slaps maquis around with a large trout |
| 15:53.44 | maquis | -lart ECS |
| 15:54.21 | Hhhhh | -lart maquis |
| 15:54.32 | Hhhhh | emo...brrrrr..... |
| 15:54.53 | sjansen | ~trout maquis |
| 15:54.54 | ibot | ACTION slaps maquis around a bit with a large trout! |
| 15:55.10 | sjansen | ~herring maquis |
| 15:55.12 | ibot | ACTION whacks maquis on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 15:55.16 | sjansen | ~salmon maquis |
| 15:55.23 | sjansen | ~tuna maquis |
| 15:55.24 | maquis | is it pick-on-maquis day again? |
| 15:55.40 | emcnabb | maquis: no |
| 15:55.42 | sjansen | ~anchovie maquis |
| 15:55.47 | emcnabb | ~whaleslap maquis |
| 15:55.48 | ibot | ACTION beats maquis upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 15:55.58 | maquis | ~lart sjansen and emcnabb |
| 15:56.00 | sjansen | ~sushi maquis |
| 15:56.07 | maquis | emcnabb: you're using windows again? |
| 15:56.23 | maquis | emcnabb: is there something ibot and brac know that you're not telling us? |
| 15:56.29 | sjansen | ibot: emcnabb is also a closet windows user |
| 15:56.30 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 15:56.48 | sjansen | ~emcnabb |
| 15:56.49 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, emcnabb is a 14|\/|3|2, or a closet windows user |
| 15:57.02 | emcnabb | really? I am? you learn something new every day! |
| 15:57.03 | Hhhhh | closet window user, lol |
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| 15:57.45 | emcnabb | sjansen: is a closet PHP user though |
| 15:57.49 | maquis | ick |
| 15:58.01 | goozbach | ewww!!! |
| 15:58.24 | sjansen | ~sjansen |
| 15:58.26 | ibot | you are probably one hoopey frood who really knows where his towel is |
| 15:59.08 | sjansen | I haven't touched PHP in months. My opinion of Pyton has moderated significantly.... I almost like it. |
| 15:59.41 | sjansen | Barring a total redesign, however, the same will never happen with PHP. |
| 16:00.19 | goozbach | Python isn't bad |
| 16:00.32 | goozbach | PHP will never not be bad |
| 16:00.46 | emcnabb | sjansen: I still think you're a PHP coder at night |
| 16:00.49 | emcnabb | you know you are |
| 16:01.00 | Monk[AtWork] | that's what I do for a living |
| 16:01.00 | sjansen | I simply don't like some of the design decisions with Python. It's like modern art I just don't understand. PHP, however, is closer to toxic sludge seeping into our drinking water. |
| 16:01.25 | sjansen | ~console Monk[AtWork] |
| 16:01.27 | ibot | ACTION gives Monk[AtWork] the consolation moose |
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| 16:04.51 | maquis | ~steal Monk[AtWork]'s moose |
| 16:04.52 | ibot | ACTION grabs Monk[AtWork]'s moose and gives it to maquis |
| 16:06.28 | sjansen | ~beat maquis |
| 16:06.30 | ibot | ACTION beats maquis with a wetfish |
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| 16:08.13 | sjansen | ~apple emcnabb |
| 16:08.20 | sjansen | ~pear emcnabb |
| 16:08.30 | sjansen | ~banana emcnabb |
| 16:08.32 | goozbach | ~curse lack of time |
| 16:08.34 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, lack of time ! |
| 16:08.43 | sjansen | ~haha goozbach |
| 16:08.46 | ibot | ACTION beats goozbach about the head with the ha ha bat |
| 16:09.12 | maquis | ~curse sjansen |
| 16:09.13 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, sjansen ! |
| 16:09.36 | levi | Morning, #utah. |
| 16:09.47 | sjansen | ~currant levi |
| 16:11.42 | sjansen | ~morning levi |
| 16:11.44 | ibot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping levi in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
| 16:11.57 | maquis | ooh... ick!!!! |
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| 16:12.47 | emcnabb | I see the new way of communication on #utah is to tell ibot to tell someone else |
| 16:13.09 | Monk[AtWork] | it's like married couples in a fight |
| 16:13.11 | emcnabb | as if IRC wasn't unpersonalble enough |
| 16:13.35 | Monk[AtWork] | "Son, go tell your mother" "she's sitting across the table dad..." |
| 16:13.58 | sjansen | ~cheese emcnabb |
| 16:14.00 | emcnabb | Monk[AtWork]: :-) |
| 16:14.18 | emcnabb | ~stuart_get_back_to_work |
| 16:14.25 | sjansen | work? |
| 16:14.29 | emcnabb | ~stuart_you_are_annoying |
| 16:14.31 | sjansen | ~work |
| 16:14.33 | ibot | well, work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively. |
| 16:16.32 | sjansen | ~evan_it's_time_you_admitted_that_reading_slashdot_at_negative_one_doesn't_count_as_work |
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| 16:17.31 | jlp_work | wow, rough bunch this morning |
| 16:17.58 | sjansen | ~threaten jlp_work |
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| 16:19.18 | emcnabb | ~lart jlp_work |
| 16:19.28 | sjansen | ~fart emcnabb |
| 16:19.29 | ibot | ACTION farts in emcnabb's general direction |
| 16:19.29 | jlp_work | woo woo, comodore 64 days! |
| 16:19.57 | levi | So, did anyone look at my OCaml program on that plug thread? |
| 16:20.08 | tensai | http://www.slashfood.com/media/2006/03/pi-pie-mystery-source.jpg |
| 16:20.12 | sjansen | ~camel levi |
| 16:20.25 | jlp_work | but my best buddy in college did :-) |
| 16:20.58 | jlp_work | we used to write programs to run on the floppy drive because the cpu in the floppy drive was faster than the cpu in the c64 |
| 16:25.35 | jlp_work | well, that put a damper on the "conversation" |
| 16:25.59 | elg | we're all testing the cpu speed of our cdrom drives |
| 16:27.22 | Monk[AtWork] | my cdrom doesn't have a CPU... I think my computer is screwed up |
| 16:27.53 | Monk[AtWork] | on the plus side, it makes a great cup holder |
| 16:28.22 | jlp_work | well, for a while |
| 16:28.57 | harleypig | SFW http://bash.org/?627168 |
| 16:28.58 | brac | [QDB: Quote #627168] |
| 16:29.02 | monkatwork | yes, I love you! |
| 16:29.12 | monkatwork | I was thinking of doing that myself |
| 16:29.29 | monkatwork | oh, nm |
| 16:29.35 | monkatwork | I thought you'd added it to bash.org |
| 16:30.23 | monkatwork | now I feel stupid |
| 16:33.01 | harleypig | sfw http://bash.org/?626249 |
| 16:33.02 | brac | [QDB: Quote #626249] |
| 16:33.15 | harleypig | monkatwork: huh? |
| 16:33.18 | emcnabb | I would like to have everyone here invite sjansen to have a good, productive day |
| 16:33.19 | harleypig | put what on bash? |
| 16:33.42 | emcnabb | harleypig: thanks |
| 16:33.44 | harleypig | Does that have a channel? |
| 16:33.57 | harleypig | #good_productive_day |
| 16:34.21 | monkatwork | nm |
| 16:37.02 | harleypig | sfw http://qdb.us/56603 |
| 16:37.03 | brac | [QDB: Quote #56603] |
| 16:37.18 | harleypig | Last one today |
| 16:38.44 | monkatwork | lol |
| 16:39.37 | jlp_work | but isn't control-_ the undo key? what's this control-Z got to do with it... was he trying to suspend his boss? |
| 16:40.14 | jlp_work | oh, wait, wrong OS |
| 16:41.29 | monkatwork | hehe |
| 16:41.31 | sjansen | all right thinking persons know that the One True Undo Key(tm) is simply u. |
| 16:42.02 | monkatwork | and we'll name it Neo |
| 16:46.08 | jsmith | Free 15" CRT to anybody willing to pick it up! |
| 16:46.42 | jsmith | Even comes with built-in speakers... |
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| 16:58.59 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 17:19.20 | tensai | ~hug screen |
| 17:19.25 | ibot | ACTION hugs screen |
| 17:20.51 | maquis | ~lart tensai |
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| 17:29.22 | sjansen | ~smurf elg |
| 17:29.31 | ibot | ACTION DoSes elg |
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| 17:52.44 | goozbach | happy PI day |
| 17:54.03 | sjansen | ~pie goozbach |
| 17:54.12 | ibot | ACTION hits goozbach in the face with a cream pie |
| 17:55.30 | findlay | ~pie |
| 17:55.45 | findlay | ~pi |
| 17:55.46 | ibot | it has been said that pi is ... |
| 17:55.49 | findlay | ~p |
| 17:56.00 | findlay | ~ |
| 17:56.04 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.53 | monkatwork | ~spell wangofet |
| 18:00.04 | monkatwork | Vancouver? |
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| 18:07.40 | harleypig | http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20060306/webfurniture_tec.html?source=rss |
| 18:07.42 | brac | [Discovery Channel :: News :: Furniture Surfs the Web] |
| 18:07.57 | harleypig | Echos of 'The 6th Day' |
| 18:09.40 | harleypig | err ... the mirror scene and the fridge scen. |
| 18:10.39 | SpecialZ | jsmith, free monitor where? |
| 18:11.03 | sjansen | ~freezer harleypig |
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| 18:22.32 | ECS | It's Einsteins birthday too. |
| 18:22.46 | ECS | and my brother's and his daughter's. |
| 18:23.20 | maquis | 3.1415926535897932384626..... |
| 18:26.33 | findlay | I know people who have a birthday every year |
| 18:27.00 | nick125_ | REALLY? |
| 18:27.06 | findlay | really |
| 18:27.10 | monkatwork | weird |
| 18:27.10 | levi | findlay: No way. :) |
| 18:27.13 | maquis | i want a birthday every year! |
| 18:27.19 | maquis | ~steal findlay's birthdays |
| 18:27.26 | ibot | ACTION grabs findlay's birthdays and gives it to maquis |
| 18:28.35 | goozbach | I know people who have birthdays every four years |
| 18:28.42 | *** part/#utah ECS (n=ECS@128.187.145.52) |
| 18:30.17 | monkatwork | I had a coach in HS who was like that |
| 18:30.28 | tensai | I have birthdays every four years, and all the years in between |
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| 19:23.42 | sjansen | Well that's scary. In the last week at work, static electricity has killed the ethernet on two different laptops. |
| 19:31.24 | Jayce^ | sjansen, you're just trying to get them to buy you one like harley's |
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| 19:41.39 | maquis | sjansen: of course... static.... |
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| 20:16.45 | lars-ut | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins#Mnemonic_Devices |
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| 20:41.49 | findlay | sweet. I may not be a lamp fraud after all |
| 20:41.52 | RyanE_ | findlay: you've been selling lamps again on Ebay? |
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| 20:51.48 | herlo | I am looking for the lz image manipulation libraries, anyone ever heard of these? I was told that I need them for making pngs with php. Any help would be greatly appreciated.... |
| 20:52.02 | RyanE | yeah, you were told me *me*. :) |
| 20:52.13 | herlo | I need to build my php with it in it |
| 20:52.25 | herlo | I was writing it b4 you were online though |
| 20:52.36 | herlo | so do you know where to go get the libs? |
| 20:52.36 | RyanE | you really want zlib |
| 20:52.40 | RyanE | I don't know what I was thinking |
| 20:52.42 | herlo | ahh, that's all |
| 20:52.47 | herlo | have that already. cool |
| 20:53.01 | RyanE | zlib, gd, png support |
| 20:53.16 | herlo | does windows have a problem generating pngs with zlib built in? not that I am running on that. |
| 20:53.28 | herlo | but I do have a test environ for it there... |
| 20:53.34 | RyanE | shouldn't. |
| 20:53.44 | RyanE | do a phpinfo, check that gd section has png enabled |
| 20:53.52 | findlay | yeah, that windows thing, always has problems |
| 20:53.58 | findlay | (: |
| 20:54.46 | sjansen | ~eat php |
| 20:54.48 | ibot | ACTION eats php and falls over dead |
| 20:55.23 | herlo | RyanE: okay, checking |
| 20:55.27 | herlo | RyanE: tx |
| 20:57.11 | RyanE | herlo: tx |
| 20:57.19 | RyanE | oops. rx. duh |
| 20:57.48 | herlo | RyanE: just noticed that the win build doesn't have gd at all, that explains why no image is being created. |
| 20:58.00 | RyanE | yeah, that'd do it |
| 21:00.35 | lars-ut | any suggestions for a workbench? I'd like something for the office that would let me work on up to 4 systems at a time with a monitor/monitors above that space at shoulder level. |
| 21:01.48 | findlay | and a bench vise too for holding those awkward comuter parts |
| 21:05.57 | Hhhhh | OK I WANNA BULLY SOMEONE |
| 21:06.05 | Hhhhh | I WANT A FLAME WAR |
| 21:06.43 | Hhhhh | here we go: LGPL vs GPL, what preserves freedom better? |
| 21:06.50 | sjansen | boring |
| 21:06.55 | Hhhhh | my take: LGPL because it requires less of the developers |
| 21:07.07 | Hhhhh | ~lart sjansen |
| 21:07.11 | sjansen | BSD vs. GPL v2 |
| 21:07.23 | sjansen | or GPLv3 vs GPLv2 |
| 21:07.44 | Hhhhh | the FSF officially discourages LGPL, I encourage it |
| 21:07.53 | findlay | GPL2.5.1 vs GPL2.5.2 |
| 21:08.09 | findlay | they're so close that there has to be a lot of dissonance |
| 21:08.31 | RyanE | or not |
| 21:08.32 | Hhhhh | lol |
| 21:08.59 | sjansen | debating licenses is so < 2005 |
| 21:09.18 | sjansen | all the cool people are debating AIGLX vs XGL |
| 21:10.02 | nick125_ | ooo...flame war... |
| 21:10.05 | Hhhhh | hehehe |
| 21:10.14 | Hhhhh | I'm waiting for a release of SUSE with XGL |
| 21:10.42 | nick125_ | popcorn! 2 for 1! |
| 21:10.51 | sjansen | ~crush nick125 |
| 21:10.55 | ibot | ACTION crushes nick125 with a full height scsi disk |
| 21:11.10 | nick125_ | lol |
| 21:11.41 | findlay | SIP vs IAX |
| 21:11.44 | nick125_ | how about we start a flame war about why download accelerators suck! |
| 21:12.03 | nick125_ | findlay: oo..interesting topic |
| 21:12.55 | findlay | s/SOAP/XMLRPC/ |
| 21:14.19 | findlay | s/python/ruby/ |
| 21:14.19 | findlay | s/php/perl/ |
| 21:14.19 | findlay | ha |
| 21:14.19 | nick125_ | s/findlay// |
| 21:14.20 | nick125_ | I hate download accelerators..why do people use them? |
| 21:14.27 | findlay | ha |
| 21:14.30 | nick125_ | ibot: die |
| 21:14.55 | ibot | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 21:14.55 | findlay | ~make clean |
| 21:14.59 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. |
| 21:14.59 | nick125_ | I have 100 connections to my server :/ |
| 21:15.51 | nick125_ | ibot is really lagging |
| 21:16.19 | findlay | ~lag |
| 21:17.00 | ibot | lag is, like, very bad here :( |
| 21:17.45 | RyanE | lag is very bad *anywhere* |
| 21:17.55 | RyanE | I'm replying to a bot. I've sunk so low. |
| 21:20.21 | Hhhhh | rofl |
| 21:21.50 | goozbach | sjansen: which two nics? |
| 21:28.47 | lars-ut | We could use 1 or 2 more folks for board game night tonight in Springville, 9pm - any takers? |
| 21:28.51 | lars-ut | http://mail.herlo.org/pipermail/boardgames_herlo.org/2006-March/000132.html |
| 21:28.53 | brac | [[BoardGames] Board Game Night Tonight 8:30pm - March 14 (ChineseFood tonight!)] |
| 21:29.33 | lars-ut | Well, that says 8:30, but we rarely roll dice until 9pm or slightly later. |
| 21:29.45 | herlo_ | don't tell them that! |
| 21:29.49 | lars-ut | D'oh! |
| 21:29.50 | herlo_ | then they will come late |
| 21:29.57 | sjansen | the laptop of the instructor from IBM last week, Dax's laptop this week |
| 21:31.18 | lars-ut | I mean, be at game night promptly at 8:30pm, or suffer psychosematic karma decrementation.... |
| 21:31.54 | herlo | its psychosomatic, btw |
| 21:32.03 | lars-ut | ~spell psychosomatic |
| 21:32.07 | sjansen | (about half an hour later Dax tried booting Vista and now his laptop won't even power on) |
| 21:32.11 | lars-ut | D'oh! |
| 21:32.36 | lars-ut | sjansen: was he running Veesta or Vihsta? |
| 21:32.53 | herlo | lars-ui: and personally decrementing your own karma sounds very scary when you write it that way |
| 21:33.06 | herlo | s/lars-ui/lars-ut |
| 21:33.18 | lars-ut | ~assimilate herlo |
| 21:33.29 | ibot | ACTION jams assimilation tubes into herlo's neck and injects Borg nanobots. |
| 21:33.30 | sjansen | He was running That Other OS from That Evil Company and the heavens poured their wrath down on him!!! |
| 21:34.10 | herlo | ~lart lars-ut |
| 21:34.17 | lars-ut | ~pimpslap herlo |
| 21:34.21 | ibot | lars-ut pimpslaps herlo. ouch! |
| 21:34.21 | herlo | the Borg does really work |
| 21:34.23 | herlo | as a team |
| 21:34.34 | herlo | ~cook lars-ut |
| 21:34.39 | ibot | ACTION throws lars-ut in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks lars-ut on 350 for an hour |
| 21:34.41 | lars-ut | ~cokezero herlo |
| 21:34.43 | ibot | ACTION puts an iv in herlo and forces 120 ounces of Coke Zero into his veins |
| 21:34.51 | herlo | mmm, cokezero |
| 21:35.16 | lars-ut | crap, that only works on Goozbach |
| 21:36.10 | herlo | ~assimilate lars-ut with cokezero |
| 21:36.22 | ibot | ACTION jams assimilation tubes into lars-ut with cokezero's neck and injects Borg nanobots. |
| 21:36.34 | lars-ut | Mmmm.. shrink wrapped subscription goodness... |
| 21:38.09 | goozbach | don't treat caffiene that way!!! *sniff* |
| 21:38.17 | goozbach | I've only had one coke today |
| 21:39.26 | goozbach | hmmm coke |
| 21:39.31 | goozbach | dr pepper |
| 21:39.36 | goozbach | barqs |
| 21:39.44 | mheath | HEY |
| 21:39.48 | mheath | barqs has bite! |
| 21:39.58 | RyanE | cough syrup-flavored dr. pepper |
| 21:40.40 | goozbach | ohh!!! |
| 21:41.26 | mheath | What to do for dinner. Hmmm. |
| 21:41.40 | mheath | Gotta go work on these online classes. bah. Why is my life so pointless now? |
| 21:42.09 | mheath | I'd be having the time of my life. A decent (for a highschool student) job, easy classes, good friends. But no, I had to go and be the worlds biggest procrastinator. |
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| 21:42.40 | mheath | Which means my life is now consumed with equal parts of school, online classes, and work |
| 21:42.49 | mheath | 2 more months....2 more months! |
| 21:43.50 | goozbach | IRC is a distraction |
| 21:43.58 | goozbach | I thought you were giving it up... |
| 21:44.02 | mheath | I know. :) |
| 21:44.16 | goozbach | want some help? |
| 21:44.33 | RyanE | hehe |
| 21:44.49 | *** mode/#utah [+b mheath!*@*] by goozbach |
| 21:45.11 | goozbach | I can help you |
| 21:45.26 | goozbach | but it's gonna hurt me more than it hurts you... |
| 21:45.31 | findlay | what's +b? |
| 21:45.34 | goozbach | ban |
| 21:45.44 | goozbach | usually proceeds a kick |
| 21:46.04 | findlay | like kick boxing? |
| 21:46.06 | goozbach | the two together commonly known as a kickban |
| 21:46.57 | *** mode/#utah [-b mheath!*@*] by goozbach |
| 21:47.10 | mheath | Heh. Actually, I managed to get the most work I've done in one day done yesterday, when I had IRC open |
| 21:47.20 | mheath | I'm going to try and get all of this section done tonight |
| 21:47.28 | mheath | Then I'll be able to finish this geography class tomorrow |
| 21:47.41 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.44 | goozbach | opps |
| 21:47.46 | goozbach | oops |
| 21:47.48 | goozbach | bah |
| 21:47.52 | goozbach | I can't type |
| 21:47.57 | mheath | These classes are easy, but its work I've been putting off for ages |
| 21:48.13 | mheath | 9th and 10th grade level stuff. Easy, but mind-numbingly boring =P |
| 21:48.46 | mheath | goozbach: bah, I am working. I'm waiting for GIMP to start so I can can "color in the rainforests of the world" on this map. |
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| 22:17.19 | tensai | eek. back to Wyoming this week. Why won't these Antelope just leave me alone! |
| 22:19.49 | findlay | ~antelope tensai |
| 22:41.04 | mheath | Mmm, cantaloupe =P |
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| 22:49.23 | Snyder_ | Hello People. |
| 22:50.04 | findlay | the People reply to Snyder_, "Hello". |
| 22:53.24 | tensai | whew. that was close. no Wyoming until next week. |
| 22:59.04 | Snyder_ | no Wyoming? |
| 22:59.43 | findlay | Wyoming hasn't been scheduled to be deployed until next week |
| 22:59.52 | Snyder_ | ah |
| 23:00.11 | findlay | Wyoming doesn't exist yet, then I guess |
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| 23:05.57 | tensai | Wyoming core dumped late last night. We're putting together a patch and will be rebooting it next week. |
| 23:08.21 | findlay | tensai: while you're at it, can you fix that wind thing? |
| 23:10.02 | tensai | findlay: it's been bumped from the last few service packs due to dependencies |
| 23:26.45 | levi | This makes me feel dumb: http://sigfpe.blogspot.com/2006/03/coalgebras-and-automata.html |
| 23:26.49 | brac | [A Neighborhood of Infinity: Coalgebras and Automata] |
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| 23:31.15 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: poke |
| 23:47.32 | xbmodder_lappy | poke |
| 23:50.10 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: read your pm |
| 23:58.54 | tensai | ~lart programmers who don't know how to write a proper library |
