| 00:08.43 | emcnabb | levi: don't worry, you're not TOO crazy |
| 00:10.04 | levi | maquis thinks I'm crazy. |
| 00:10.38 | levi | She listens to what I have to say, though, so she must think that I am at least an interesting nutcase. |
| 00:17.00 | emcnabb | maquis is crazy |
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| 00:22.09 | levi | WTF? Jason Holt has generated a 60mb C file. |
| 00:22.23 | maquis | ?? |
| 00:23.36 | levi | As an entry in Sasha's contest. |
| 00:23.36 | maquis | wha??? i didnt know gcc had a memory limit |
| 00:23.52 | levi | Well, it's more like the computer has a memory addressing limit. |
| 00:24.03 | maquis | but... how? erm... |
| 00:26.14 | maquis | ha |
| 00:26.19 | maquis | got that far |
| 00:27.41 | maquis | there's a better way to do that than what he did for lines 203-1578295.... |
| 00:28.35 | maquis | and what's with the last one being "thoroughbreds"? |
| 00:30.03 | levi | Whew, my computer is responsive again. |
| 00:30.55 | maquis | levi: did it compile? |
| 00:31.18 | levi | No, I just double-clicked on it, and Xcode attempted to open it. :) |
| 00:31.27 | maquis | oh |
| 00:31.32 | maquis | i have it open in vim |
| 00:31.47 | levi | Now that my computer works again, I have it open in less. |
| 00:32.00 | maquis | and i don't understand what the point is of lines 203-1578295 |
| 00:32.44 | levi | Is that the structure full of empty strings? |
| 00:33.15 | maquis | yeah |
| 00:33.19 | maquis | except the last one |
| 00:33.24 | maquis | which is "thoroughbreds" |
| 00:34.05 | levi | I wonder if it wasn't supposed to be the word list. |
| 00:34.17 | maquis | it is... at least from the name |
| 00:34.24 | maquis | but i don't understand what the point is of doing it that way |
| 00:35.11 | maquis | i also haven't figured out what the big array of numbers is |
| 00:36.46 | maquis | oh |
| 00:36.56 | maquis | googling for gperf is kinda helpng me make a bit more sense of it |
| 00:37.01 | maquis | but it still seems like ugly code |
| 00:37.54 | levi | Ahh, for generating a perfect hash function. |
| 00:38.30 | maquis | ok... |
| 00:38.46 | maquis | so, he's creating a hash table, and then hashing all the words? |
| 00:39.53 | levi | The hash-function-creator needs the data to be hashed in order to create the perfect hash function for the data. |
| 00:40.31 | maquis | huh? so, it can't hash unless unless the data is hashed so it can figure out how to hash? |
| 00:40.58 | levi | No, I meant 'data to be hashed' as a noun. |
| 00:44.25 | maquis | oh |
| 00:44.32 | maquis | that makes a lot more sense |
| 00:44.50 | maquis | my assumption was that the data was going to be read into the array |
| 00:45.03 | maquis | but i didn't look closely enough to see if it was... |
| 00:45.31 | maquis | because a piece of the problem was that you needed to use a dictionary file on the system, right? |
| 00:47.28 | levi | No, the spec, such as it is, doesn't say you have to read the dictionary file at runtime. |
| 00:47.39 | levi | The spec is, incidentally, rather poorly written. |
| 00:47.43 | maquis | oh |
| 00:47.48 | maquis | i misunderstood it, then |
| 00:49.19 | levi | Doesn't a unique word, by definition, appear only once? |
| 00:49.45 | maquis | i would assume the intention was distinct word |
| 00:52.46 | levi | Obviously no one read my lisp code very closely, since it finds unique words rather than the counts of all distinct words. |
| 00:54.00 | levi | It would have been shorter to do counts. |
| 01:03.21 | levi | Well, one line shorter. |
| 02:29.56 | maquis | net->input_nodes[5].value = 4231519159482534854656.000000 |
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| 04:34.55 | levi | maquis: Did you figure it out? |
| 04:36.04 | maquis | levi: not really |
| 04:36.14 | maquis | i added a print statement, and then removed the print statement |
| 04:36.17 | maquis | and it works fine now |
| 04:36.20 | levi | Heh. |
| 04:36.39 | maquis | yup |
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| 04:46.58 | maquis | ~lart pmcnabb |
| 04:47.26 | pmcnabb | eh, it's not the first time.. |
| 04:47.33 | maquis | ?? |
| 04:47.42 | maquis | you regularly get beaten up by bots? |
| 04:47.47 | pmcnabb | people pick on me often.. |
| 04:48.08 | maquis | :( |
| 04:48.31 | maquis | you don't beat them up? |
| 04:48.44 | pmcnabb | -lart maquis |
| 04:48.50 | pmcnabb | oops |
| 04:48.52 | maquis | methinks brac isn't around |
| 04:48.55 | pmcnabb | ~lart maquis |
| 04:49.11 | maquis | hmmm... |
| 04:49.25 | nick125 | everything in xgl is soo...smooth :) |
| 04:49.43 | maquis | nick125: floppy windows! |
| 04:49.50 | nick125 | maquis: yes :) |
| 04:49.53 | maquis | :) |
| 04:49.56 | nick125 | wobbly windows |
| 04:49.59 | nick125 | cube |
| 04:50.00 | nick125 | alt-tab |
| 04:50.03 | maquis | nick125: they're not wobbly! |
| 04:50.07 | nick125 | maquis: theres a livecd if you want to try it :p |
| 04:50.15 | maquis | nick125: ooh... |
| 04:50.29 | nick125 | http://mirrors.atarack.com/kororaa-xgl-demo-livecd-0.1.iso |
| 04:50.33 | maquis | nick125: i'm guessing it probably doesn't play nicely with evilwm? |
| 04:50.47 | nick125 | Well, you would use compiz for your wm.. |
| 04:50.57 | maquis | ah |
| 04:50.58 | nick125 | But, whatever you use for your desktop enviroment is something else |
| 04:51.46 | nick125 | try kororaa and see if it works with your h/w, how you like it, etc |
| 04:51.49 | maquis | :) |
| 04:51.52 | maquis | i will.. |
| 04:52.22 | nick125 | download it from my mirror so I can finally pass the 21GB mark ;) |
| 04:52.35 | maquis | that's what i'm doing |
| 04:52.52 | nick125 | :) |
| 04:53.00 | nick125 | 673K/s, huh? |
| 04:53.19 | nick125 | 730K/s |
| 04:53.39 | nick125 | my load average on that box is 0.00 |
| 04:54.25 | nick125 | If I would quit refreshing phpsysinfo, it would remain that way |
| 04:54.40 | nick125 | http://sysinfo.atarack.com/ |
| 04:55.08 | nick125 | 21.12GB :) |
| 04:57.41 | maquis | :) |
| 05:02.59 | nick125 | 21.39GB |
| 05:03.36 | nick125 | lighttpd has a status interface thing where it will tell how many requests, traffic, and the individual connections |
| 05:35.52 | QBFreak | ACK! |
| 05:36.00 | QBFreak | I'm getting shocked by my cable line |
| 05:36.07 | QBFreak | that is so not right |
| 05:36.08 | nick125 | ...what? |
| 05:36.18 | QBFreak | I went to hook it up and ZAP |
| 05:36.39 | QBFreak | I'll try _not_ running it through the UPSes protection and see if that helps |
| 05:36.51 | nick125 | I've been zaped by cable line before |
| 05:36.55 | nick125 | and telephone |
| 05:37.19 | QBFreak | yeah, telephone has some nice voltage on hook and ring |
| 05:37.29 | QBFreak | off hook is a nice 10v-ish |
| 05:38.12 | nick125 | It would be much worse if the phone rang :p |
| 05:38.15 | QBFreak | ack, UPS 'building wiring fault' light is on, I bet they're related |
| 05:38.16 | QBFreak | oh yes |
| 05:38.24 | QBFreak | on hook is 50v-ish iirc |
| 05:38.27 | QBFreak | but ring is nasty |
| 05:38.52 | QBFreak | bah, I'm running out of outlets |
| 05:38.53 | nick125 | very |
| 05:38.57 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:39.15 | QBFreak | I had the UPS in the one wall socket, but then I was short so I got a nice 2 to 6 adapter |
| 05:39.29 | QBFreak | I think that is the source of my fault |
| 05:39.51 | nick125 | dont you love it when for some reason, your terminal becomes echo disabled? |
| 05:39.54 | QBFreak | I need to get another power strip or two to chain off the other surge protector I suppose (mostly for little stuff with AC adapters) |
| 05:39.58 | QBFreak | fuun |
| 05:40.15 | nick125 | yay for the reset command |
| 05:40.37 | QBFreak | now I have to pull the desk out and crawl back there and recable *sigh* |
| 05:41.14 | QBFreak | and my fingers are sore from getting zapped |
| 05:41.44 | nick125 | lol |
| 05:42.02 | QBFreak | but I was smart, I was sure to always test it with one hand at a time |
| 05:42.08 | QBFreak | no sense sending it through my heart :) |
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| 05:49.14 | elg | cable? that'd be nice. then I wouldn't have to watch stupid network tv |
| 05:53.02 | levi | elg: One never /has/ to watch network tv. |
| 05:53.45 | QBFreak | and look at that, with a properly grounded UPS, I no longer get shocked trying to hook the cable up\ |
| 05:53.55 | elg | no, that's true. if you plan ahead and download doctor who |
| 05:54.21 | QBFreak | and I lost a bunch of outlets because one was loose in the 6 outlet adapter :( |
| 05:54.30 | elg | I was coded out. I wrote a regular expression intersection routine today |
| 05:55.12 | levi | One never has to watch any tv at all. |
| 05:57.03 | levi | So, I wonder if Brian Sant is planning on comparing his Java code with my Lisp code for Sasha's silly example. |
| 05:57.15 | levi | s/example/exercise |
| 05:58.52 | elg | probably |
| 05:59.52 | elg | I didn't realize dapper dan was being slated as etnerprise class |
| 05:59.55 | RyanE | comparing java to lisp is like comparing apples to studebakers. |
| 06:00.16 | RyanE | not that lisp == studebakers in any way shape or form... |
| 06:00.42 | elg | are you calling apples coffee? |
| 06:00.58 | RyanE | ok, comparing apples to heart surgeries. |
| 06:01.23 | elg | levi: it was a rather interesting theoretical challenge to do regexp intersection |
| 06:01.52 | levi | elg: Hmm? |
| 06:02.27 | elg | you have two regular expressions and you want to know if the regular language that is the intersection of the two is nonempty |
| 06:02.56 | levi | I'm not sure what this is in reference to. |
| 06:03.05 | elg | what I wasted most of the day on. :) |
| 06:03.12 | levi | Ahh! Okay. :) |
| 06:03.19 | levi | That does sound like a much more interesting problem. |
| 06:03.28 | RyanE | use your pgup key... |
| 06:03.46 | elg | got it working too |
| 06:04.19 | elg | too bad there's not a good (easy) way to do it with the stdlib Regexp class... I just did it for this very simple regex syntax |
| 06:38.11 | mrpull-_ | holy cow. closing firefox made it go from 150MB of memory consumption to 250MB.... steenking FF. |
| 06:38.19 | mrpull-_ | ahhh... now it is 0MB |
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| 16:58.48 | goozbach | blargfooblarg |
| 17:01.07 | emcnabb | ~lart goozbach |
| 17:22.18 | goozbach | ~bzfrag emcnabb |
| 17:22.19 | ibot | ACTION kills emcnabb with a shot from his BZTank |
| 17:22.29 | goozbach | ~bzfrag emcnabb |
| 17:22.31 | ibot | ACTION fries emcnabb with a laser |
| 17:29.27 | emcnabb | :-( |
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| 20:04.23 | maquis | brrrrrrr |
| 20:04.29 | nick125 | what? |
| 20:04.37 | maquis | nick125: it's cold |
| 20:04.44 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb and goozbach |
| 20:04.48 | nick125 | yeah...my feet are cold |
| 20:05.00 | nick125 | and my lappy isn't liking me :? |
| 20:05.14 | maquis | sadness |
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| 21:58.02 | levi | Good afternoon, #utah |
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| 22:03.07 | levi | You know, Ocean's 12 kinda sucked, but I like the incidental music in the soundtrack. |
| 22:13.42 | elg | kind of? that movie was worse than rolling down a hill in a barrel |
| 22:13.50 | elg | or at least gave the same sensation |
| 22:14.38 | elg | I think making your audience sick by using a more 'natural' unsteadied camera is a hip thing to do if you're a filmmaker |
| 22:14.42 | elg | but I didn't enjoy it |
| 22:16.18 | levi | Are you thinking of Bourne Supremacy? |
| 22:16.45 | elg | no, although it was similar |
| 22:16.54 | elg | it was oceans 12, no doub |
| 22:16.55 | elg | t |
| 22:16.59 | elg | not the whole movie, but parts |
| 22:17.10 | elg | esp. near the end iirc |
| 22:17.57 | levi | Huh. I didn't notice that in Ocean's 12. My main gripe is that they took the plot twists waaaay past the credibility point. |
| 22:18.38 | levi | Anyway, my wife is watching it in the other room, and I dig the snippets of music between scenes. |
| 22:20.29 | elg | i quite liked 11 |
| 22:20.40 | levi | Me too. Especially the soundtrack. |
| 22:31.06 | levi | Oh, and the Julia Roberts gag in 12 was way annoying. |
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| 23:23.43 | maquis | i took one of those "which linux distro is best for you" quizzes for fun... |
| 23:23.55 | atoponce | what was the result? |
| 23:24.00 | maquis | not exactly the results i was expecting |
| 23:24.21 | maquis | says that i should be running ubuntu, kubuntu, fedora or mandriva |
| 23:24.24 | maquis | that hurts |
| 23:24.30 | atoponce | ubuntu doesn't hurt |
| 23:24.32 | atoponce | :) |
| 23:24.37 | QBFreak | but they're shiny! |
| 23:25.19 | atoponce | that's interesting they gave you the results they did |
| 23:26.14 | maquis | it's very interesting to me... it's not at all what i was expecting given my answers to questions.... |
| 23:26.30 | maquis | i think i'll probably go through it again and see what happens if i change different things |
| 23:26.48 | atoponce | ubuntu, kubuntu- debian based with good installer and great hardware detection. fedora kernel hacked and hard to manage. madriva heavily bloated, and a pain to install software |
| 23:27.02 | atoponce | all completely different |
| 23:27.52 | maquis | yeah |
| 23:28.31 | atoponce | of course, you can't go wrong with ubuntu. :) |
| 23:28.37 | QBFreak | the quiz I found suggested Debian as the first match for my server |
| 23:28.56 | QBFreak | which so happens to be what it is running, I forget who suggested it to me |
| 23:29.25 | atoponce | i always get a kick out of those quizzes |
| 23:29.28 | atoponce | what is the link? |
| 23:29.42 | QBFreak | the one I found is http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php |
| 23:29.52 | maquis | QBFreak: that's the one... |
| 23:30.03 | QBFreak | a lot more clicking than I'd like, but oh well |
| 23:30.14 | maquis | i think it uses a different definition of "expert" than i do |
| 23:31.11 | maquis | if i just claim to be an expert, then it gives me the results i was expecting |
| 23:32.27 | levi | maquis: What results were you expecting? |
| 23:32.43 | levi | It told me Ubuntu and Debian as well. |
| 23:32.51 | maquis | levi: well... i was expecting something more along the lines of gentoo |
| 23:33.03 | maquis | so, when i claimed to be an expert, it told me gentoo/arch/slackware |
| 23:33.42 | maquis | i just did the stereotypical installfest person, and it said ubuntu, kubuntu, suse and linspire |
| 23:37.08 | atoponce | well, it was good to my wife |
| 23:37.14 | atoponce | nailed the result right on the head |
| 23:37.49 | atoponce | she, having never used linux or installed an os before, was recommended suse or mandriva |
| 23:39.59 | atoponce | nailed me too! 1, debian, 2, kubuntu and 2, ubuntu |
| 23:41.31 | nick125 | On that Linux distro chooser, I got gentoo and slack |
| 23:44.38 | nick125 | Haha, I played around on it, and it said mandriva, ubuntu, suse, fedora, debian, and kubuntu.. |
| 23:47.20 | nick125 | Damn..do I have to uninstall XGL to get any work done? |