| 00:00.12 | mrpull- | the tags and timeline in f-spot look like they were inspired by PE. |
| 00:00.55 | tene | But do they improve on it, faithfully recreate it, or fail at reproducing it? |
| 00:01.31 | mrpull- | it looks like they did a good job recreating it |
| 00:01.59 | mrpull- | PE does have layers for editing. Does f-spot? |
| 00:02.36 | tene | not sure... the editing support looks really simple and limited... |
| 00:02.49 | tene | "adjust colors" "remove red-eye" etc. |
| 00:02.51 | mrpull- | which can be an advantage for most. |
| 00:02.54 | tene | nodnod |
| 00:03.04 | mrpull- | looks like a nice app. |
| 00:03.35 | mrpull- | the last time I shopped for a PE alternative I was looking at gthumb (or something like it) + gimp and was unsatisfied. |
| 00:03.40 | tene | heh |
| 00:03.44 | tene | I would be too, I suspect. |
| 00:04.18 | tene | I wonder what f-spot would do if I plugged the camera in... |
| 00:05.25 | findlay | anybody want to help me rebuild my transmission? |
| 00:05.25 | tene | looks like Gnome is set to open f-spot when a camera is detected. |
| 00:05.35 | findlay | it will be fun |
| 00:05.41 | tene | I'll test later, if I remember. |
| 00:05.44 | tene | eh, findlay? |
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| 00:13.09 | xbmodder_lappy | hey gusy |
| 00:13.37 | tene | i/gnore xbmodder_lappy |
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| 00:15.29 | xbmodder_lappy | s/gusy/guys/ |
| 00:16.06 | tene | ~ignore xbmodder_lappy |
| 00:16.08 | ibot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, xbmodder_lappy!" |
| 00:18.04 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
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| 00:37.42 | findlay | ~ignore ignorance |
| 00:37.47 | ibot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, ignorance!" |
| 00:41.12 | elg | ~lart recurrence relations |
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| 01:15.38 | Newsome | So, has everybody applied for my old job yet? - https://yjobs.byu.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/position/PrinterFriendlyJobDetails.jsp?time=1141780496040 |
| 01:16.02 | goozbach | no, but everybody has applied for mine |
| 01:16.05 | goozbach | :) |
| 01:16.26 | Newsome | good. Yours is probably better than mine would be. |
| 01:17.40 | jsmith | goozbach: I haven't. |
| 01:18.17 | jsmith | goozbach: Does that make me a nobody? |
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| 01:43.38 | elg | any math whizzes here? |
| 01:44.22 | elg | I need to figure out the behavior of sum((2*a)^i) where a is between 0 and 1 |
| 01:47.14 | Newsome | what is 'i'? |
| 01:47.39 | Newsome | does 'i' represent sqrt(-1) in this case? |
| 01:47.45 | elg | no |
| 01:47.50 | elg | it's the variable in the summation |
| 01:47.55 | elg | the thing under the sigma |
| 01:48.11 | elg | and it's an infinite summation, e.g. from 0 to infinity |
| 01:48.33 | elg | 0<a<1 to be more precise |
| 01:51.22 | tene | so a definite integral |
| 01:51.36 | elg | my googling tells me that a^n will converge to 1/(1-a) (let's use n instead of i) |
| 01:52.08 | elg | but 2a is bigger than 1. or it can be anyway |
| 01:53.13 | elg | i really need to get me a calculus book. |
| 01:54.00 | amcnabb | The sum as n->infinity of x^n is 1/(1-x) if abs(x)<1 |
| 01:54.31 | amcnabb | So (2x)^n won't converge unless abs(x)<.5 |
| 01:55.03 | elg | yeah |
| 01:55.37 | amcnabb | What's the context? Is it enough to know that the sum diverges for x>=.5? |
| 01:55.47 | elg | well mr wolfram's super-duper web integrator (I'm going to wish I hadn't found that) says the integral of (2a)^x dx is (2a)^x/log(2a) |
| 01:57.13 | amcnabb | Are you trying to do an integral or a series? |
| 01:57.46 | elg | series |
| 01:58.20 | amcnabb | So the integral won't help. |
| 02:02.20 | elg | this is such a stupid problem. it's the recurrence relation T(n) = T(na) + T(n(1-a)) + cn |
| 02:02.46 | elg | which is obviously never going to finish |
| 02:03.20 | elg | is there such a thing as O(INF)? :) |
| 02:12.34 | tene | nomic! |
| 02:14.56 | goozbach | or write an IRC bot that plays rumble http://kevan.org/rumble.cgi?genre=hero&mode=rules |
| 02:15.52 | goozbach | yeah, a rumble-bot |
| 02:16.33 | goozbach | you msg your allocation phase, then the bot displays all attacks and so forth |
| 02:16.40 | goozbach | last man standing wins |
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| 03:38.35 | xbmodder_lappy | that was quick |
| 03:38.54 | maquis | ?? |
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| 03:40.48 | tene | burn it! |
| 03:41.33 | maquis | ~lart britney spears music |
| 03:41.39 | maquis | ibot: thanks |
| 03:41.39 | ibot | de rien, maquis |
| 03:42.22 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 03:42.42 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: it's *really* not funny |
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| 04:34.30 | tensai | elg: just remember, I love you man. :) |
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| 05:06.06 | goozbach | tensai: feeling happy? |
| 05:06.42 | goozbach | so I'm now wasting time writing a Rumble bot |
| 05:07.14 | tensai | I made various threats to elg's life on plug so I figured I should reiterate that I wasn't serious |
| 05:07.29 | tensai | and I'm happy |
| 05:11.18 | elg | ~lart tensai |
| 05:11.28 | elg | apology accepted |
| 05:11.41 | elg | why are you happy? did you finish your rumble bot before goozbach? |
| 05:12.32 | tensai | apology is a bit of a stretch. how about admission of non-murderous intentions. |
| 05:12.42 | tensai | just generally happy. life is good. |
| 05:12.50 | elg | dandy. I won't poison your sourdough |
| 05:13.03 | elg | you've been drinking too much IRC. ;-) |
| 05:13.45 | findlay | OK, so totem will play audio CDs, but every other program won't. Why? |
| 05:13.47 | tensai | no doubt about that |
| 05:14.17 | tensai | I haven't been making sourdough lately. actually, I only made 2 loaves and gave up. |
| 05:14.33 | tensai | make lots of ciabatta though. mmm. |
| 05:14.41 | elg | tensai: remind me to tell you about the super-easy even-your-son-could-do-it sourdough loaf |
| 05:14.51 | elg | after a few Zs |
| 05:15.23 | tensai | so easy my 3 year-old son could do it? I'm intrigued. |
| 05:15.36 | elg | pretty much. although you shouldn't let him play in hot ovens |
| 05:16.16 | tensai | we let him help make his own pizza. I also found a book at the library with recipes for kids. it was fun. |
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| 05:36.29 | levi | Crap, I think I killed my CPU. :/ |
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| 05:43.41 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 05:50.14 | levi | Anyone got a Tbird Athlon they want to get rid of? |
| 05:54.11 | bigdog_ut | nope |
| 05:54.28 | goozbach | levi: I've got an extra 1800+ |
| 05:54.36 | goozbach | I think... |
| 05:54.44 | goozbach | not sure if it'll work for you |
| 05:54.45 | levi | goozbach: That's not a Tbird, is it? |
| 05:54.59 | goozbach | I don't know |
| 05:55.01 | levi | I need a Socket A chip. |
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| 06:02.21 | levi | AKA Socket 462 |
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| 06:06.33 | levi | Looks like the 1800+ chips are Athlon MP. |
| 06:08.28 | levi | And Athlon MP is Socket A |
| 06:09.13 | levi | The question is whether the chipset will support it. |
| 06:13.32 | levi | And... I think the answer is no. :( |
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| 06:26.59 | tene | yay! |
| 06:27.08 | levi | yay? |
| 06:28.27 | maquis | levi: tene doesn't like linuxalien, obviously |
| 06:28.43 | tene | obviously. |
| 06:29.09 | levi | None of you guys have an old Tbird Athlon laying around taking up space, do you? |
| 06:29.30 | tene | I might... |
| 06:29.55 | tene | I've got some old motherboards with processors laying around and don't know what they are |
| 06:30.16 | levi | Hmm. |
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| 16:39.07 | tensai | ~rlart |
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| 17:22.27 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone know of a good hosting company in town that offers hosted dedicated server solutions for cheap? |
| 17:22.45 | Uncle_Jesse | I need a dedicated server for under $40 a month |
| 17:23.12 | Uncle_Jesse | I have one out in FL already, but want one in a different location of the US in case they ever get shut down |
| 17:23.25 | levi | Anyone have an old Athlon Tbird processor they're willing to part with? |
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| 17:29.01 | Jayce^ | levi, t-bird, no, but got a xp2600 in the box... can't find a mobo for it |
| 17:29.24 | levi | Jayce^: Well, that doesn't do me much good. :) |
| 17:29.53 | Jayce^ | think I've got a 1.4, might still be t-bird, but I think it might be one of the first xp's... |
| 17:30.18 | levi | Weren't the xps all named 1400+ or whatever? |
| 17:30.30 | Jayce^ | right, I just dont' remember what that sucker was |
| 17:31.09 | levi | I don't suppose you recall the FSB speed? |
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| 17:31.22 | Jayce^ | no, trying to look it up now |
| 17:31.55 | levi | I was trying to replace my heatsink/fan last night, and I must have killed the cpu while I was trying to clean the old thermal paste off of it or something. |
| 17:32.18 | Jayce^ | must be xp, it's a 266 |
| 17:33.36 | levi | I have an Asus A7V motherboard, which I think has a nominal max FSB of 200mhz. :( |
| 17:34.18 | levi | And there were non-XP athlons with 266mhz fsb. |
| 17:34.38 | levi | XPs apparently started at 1500 |
| 17:39.04 | levi | I really don't want to pay $65 to keep this old thing limping along, but it's looking like the only reasonable option. |
| 17:39.34 | levi | Unless someone has a motherboard/CPU combo that's faster they want to sell me for < $65. :) |
| 17:45.48 | maquis | http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=984 |
| 17:46.11 | maquis | hmmm... since brac's not paying attention, the title is: |
| 17:46.18 | maquis | RIAA Says Future DRM Might \u201cThreaten Critical Infrastructure and Potentially Endanger Lives\u201d |
| 17:46.50 | jlp_work | it's all the fault of those terrorists downloading music all day! |
| 17:47.36 | maquis | that article hurts... |
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| 18:00.11 | lars-ut | Does anybody here have a list of national talk radio streams/links? I was hoping to be able to listen to Michael Medved, Jerry Doyle, Bill O'Reilley, or Michael Savage w/o paying for it. |
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| 18:00.55 | maquis | ~lart SpecialZ |
| 18:00.57 | lars-ut | Then again, I might be one of the few here that listens to those folks. |
| 18:01.43 | levi | lars-ut: They don't strike me as the sort of people who would release stuff for free, but I could be mistaken. |
| 18:02.36 | lars-ut | levi: I still don't understand radio stations re: streaming. Some do, some don't. |
| 18:02.58 | Jayce^ | lars-ut, I know on a lot of them, it depends on the distributor.. |
| 18:03.32 | lars-ut | Most of these would normally air on FM 97.5 locally |
| 18:03.47 | lars-ut | Maybe I need to buy a tuner card |
| 18:04.00 | levi | Or... a radio. |
| 18:04.32 | levi | Crazy idea, I know. |
| 18:06.00 | lars-ut | Guess I could use the headphone jack for an output to my PC |
| 18:06.09 | lars-ut | Yeah, that'd work. |
| 18:12.04 | levi | Or you could use the headphone jack for headphones. |
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| 18:18.30 | sjansen | ~ping hans |
| 18:18.32 | ibot | pong hans |
| 18:18.49 | sjansen | ~seen hans |
| 18:18.54 | ibot | hans <n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 8d 3h 58m 56s ago, saying: 'that sounds like a fine name for it'. |
| 18:18.56 | sjansen | ~seen elg |
| 18:18.58 | ibot | elg <n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 13h 3m 21s ago, saying: 'pretty much. although you shouldn't let him play in hot ovens'. |
| 18:39.37 | amcnabb | Google is going to be irrelevant in 6 months. Apparently live.com is going to be relevant. |
| 18:39.45 | amcnabb | AJAX web search is just wrong. |
| 18:40.06 | amcnabb | And three minutes after entering a query, I still don't have results. |
| 18:56.12 | maquis | amcnabb: on which one do you not have a result? |
| 18:58.19 | amcnabb | I was able to rerun it, and it worked, but there are definitely bugs. |
| 18:58.35 | maquis | amcnabb: live.com? |
| 18:58.58 | amcnabb | yep |
| 18:59.20 | maquis | ah |
| 19:00.01 | maquis | amcnabb: have you ever checked out a9? it uses the google results, but it has some interesting ways to organize stuff and lets you search with other engines (and other sites) pretty easily... |
| 19:00.43 | maquis | i looked at a9 about a year ago, and it seemed pointless, but i checked it a few weeks ago, and it's not bad these days |
| 19:01.01 | Jayce^ | says the amazon intern :) |
| 19:01.14 | amcnabb | I don't see anything compelling about a9, live.com, etc. |
| 19:01.20 | maquis | not intern anymore... :-P |
| 19:01.25 | amcnabb | I like simple. |
| 19:05.00 | maquis | ah |
| 19:05.04 | maquis | yeah... |
| 19:07.44 | levi | All else being equal, simplicity is better. |
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| 19:10.50 | findlay | hi |
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| 19:11.09 | findlay | hi Peregrine |
| 19:11.24 | Peregrine | Hey findlay, what's shakin'? |
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| 19:13.10 | findlay | there are over two hundred independant factors in the movement of the moon |
| 19:13.32 | findlay | s/independent/ |
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| 19:14.04 | findlay | shakes, if you will |
| 19:22.41 | Peregrine | Oh, ha ha .... um, ha. |
| 19:24.34 | Peregrine | :) |
| 19:28.24 | jsmith | ~shake |
| 19:28.39 | jsmith | Ah, ibot is no fun today... |
| 19:32.41 | findlay | ~dict shake |
| 19:32.53 | findlay | ~dict 2 shake |
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| 20:15.15 | mrpull-_ | maquis: how did your presentation go? |
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| 20:58.00 | maquis | mrpull-_: it went ok... the projector refused to work, but other than that.... |
| 21:00.41 | jsmith | maquis: Get some cute guy to carry it for you? |
| 21:02.31 | maquis | jsmith: haha |
| 21:02.41 | maquis | i'm just thiking... it needs a strap of some sort |
| 21:03.07 | maquis | because i'd like to run over there, and i don't really want to be carrying it in my hand the whole time |
| 21:03.13 | maquis | a strap would be particularly nice |
| 21:03.16 | maquis | but it doesn't have one |
| 21:05.06 | levi | Do you have a case for it? |
| 21:05.14 | maquis | it's got a cover |
| 21:05.22 | levi | You could attach a strap to the cover. |
| 21:05.49 | levi | Or you could get some rope, lash it to the handle, and make a loop that way. |
| 21:06.04 | xbmodder_ | hey |
| 21:06.08 | maquis | yeah... i was actually thinking one that goes from the head to the handle would actually be the best way |
| 21:06.15 | maquis | but i need to find something to do that with |
| 21:06.24 | maquis | and somehow, i think it would look kinda weird if i did it with cat5 |
| 21:06.39 | maquis | but that's the closest thing i have around my apartment :) |
| 21:06.55 | goozbach | use cat5 |
| 21:06.58 | levi | If it's fairly flexy cat-5, it wouldn't be that bad. |
| 21:07.03 | maquis | haha |
| 21:07.41 | findlay | cat-5? You're using your cat gut strings? |
| 21:07.56 | levi | You could even strip a couple inches on each end and bare the colored wires. |
| 21:08.04 | maquis | levi: haha |
| 21:12.09 | goozbach | I blame sjansen |
| 21:12.21 | jsmith | findlay: Good idea! Music! |
| 21:12.27 | goozbach | and canada |
| 21:12.28 | xbmodder_ | acpi |
| 21:12.33 | goozbach | and good TEA! |
| 21:14.05 | jsmith | goozbach: Canada is a good idea? |
| 21:15.08 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:15.34 | mrpull-_ | maquis: my tennis racquet cover has a strap from head to handle. I assume you could buy one cheaply since mine was free. |
| 22:17.59 | mrpull-_ | did the projector not like your x.org settings? /me ducks |
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| 23:07.53 | findlay | ~lart brac |
| 23:20.54 | findlay | ~lart ADD |
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| 23:48.52 | Hhhhh | Access, lol |