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| 00:14.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:14.09 | ScytheBlade1 | " As a security auditor, I've audited College and High School networks. |
| 00:14.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Simply put: Wherein most organizations are trying to protect themselves from the internet - at a school district, they try to protect the internet from their organization." |
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| 00:49.50 | nick125_lappy | gah.. |
| 00:49.50 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 00:49.55 | nick125_lappy | xgl is being dumb |
| 00:50.07 | nick125_lappy | -lart xgl |
| 00:51.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa @ http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.J.RES.24.IH: |
| 00:51.57 | mheath | nick125_, elg: There's no brac. |
| 00:52.05 | mheath | brac is -. ibot is ~. |
| 00:52.26 | nick125_lappy | ~lart xgl |
| 00:52.47 | mheath | I doubt that will help the problem. |
| 00:53.01 | nick125_lappy | lol |
| 00:53.05 | ScytheBlade1 | mheath, read my link |
| 00:53.34 | mheath | ScytheBlade1, Good. |
| 00:53.52 | mheath | *congressman |
| 00:54.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not even sure how to respond to that |
| 00:54.58 | mheath | ScytheBlade1, FDR. |
| 00:55.06 | ScytheBlade1 | What about him? |
| 00:55.22 | mheath | Think of FDR, and where our country would have gone without his reforms. |
| 00:55.43 | mheath | And realize that he wouldn't have been able to pass any of those economic reforms if the 22nd amendment had been passed before he took office. |
| 00:56.53 | mheath | I see nothing wrong with presidents holding office longer than 8 years, if the popular vote supports them in doing so. |
| 00:57.24 | mheath | Don't be paranoid. This isn't a bill to keep Bush in office, or anything. Theres no way Bush will be elected again. |
| 00:57.41 | mheath | Just remember..... |
| 00:57.57 | mheath | For the majority of our countries existance, the 22nd amendment didn't exist |
| 00:58.16 | flyboy^ | Is there something wrong with the president being president for year and years? Senators can do it, why can't the president? |
| 00:58.18 | mheath | And the only president who ran for more than two terms anyway was FDR, who is arguably one of our best presidents anyway. |
| 00:58.35 | mheath | flyboy^, indeed. |
| 00:59.17 | flyboy^ | I wonder what would happen if Senators could only serve 8 years. |
| 00:59.37 | flyboy^ | Hatch and Bennet would have been gone a while ago. |
| 00:59.53 | mheath | Many, many senators would have been gone decades ago. |
| 01:00.06 | mheath | Including, in my opinion, some of the best ones. |
| 01:00.11 | flyboy^ | Many very powerful senators. |
| 01:00.53 | flyboy^ | I mean, if the Senate can have all that power due to leanght of time in office, does the pres not haveing that ability sort of nuter the office in some regard? |
| 01:01.10 | flyboy^ | It seems to me it sort of unbalances the supposed balance that is supposed to be there. |
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| 01:56.00 | mheath_ | Has anyone tried those home dry cleaning kits? |
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| 02:44.54 | emcnabb | I have a friend who knows nothing about computers |
| 02:45.05 | nick125_lappy | congrats |
| 02:45.19 | emcnabb | his windows box died last night, so he figured out what the problem was, and got his files off |
| 02:45.28 | emcnabb | he then downloaded Ubuntu, and installed it |
| 02:45.30 | emcnabb | with no problems |
| 02:45.33 | emcnabb | I was impressed |
| 03:02.03 | mheath_ | I think I just did some massive dammage to my new (to me) car =\ |
| 03:04.29 | emcnabb | that stinks |
| 03:05.50 | levi | mheath_: What happened? |
| 03:06.24 | mheath_ | levi: I'm learning how to drive a manual. Getting the hang of it for the most part. |
| 03:06.54 | mheath_ | I'm driving on a major road at 55 MPH, when the guy infront of me decides to decelerate quickly for no apparant reason, down to around 30mph. |
| 03:07.08 | mheath_ | So I go to shift down from 4th to 3rd |
| 03:07.32 | mheath_ | Only somehow I manage to get into 1st. Don't ask me how - usually its really hard to shift into 1st unless I'm not moving. |
| 03:07.48 | mheath_ | For about 2 seconds, I was going at about 40MPH in 1st gear. |
| 03:08.01 | mheath_ | I did *not* like that noise, and there was kinda a weird smell for a bit after that. |
| 03:09.06 | mheath_ | Whats the worst that could have happened? |
| 03:09.18 | mheath_ | I mean, I popped the clutch back in after only like 2 seconds...but... |
| 03:11.40 | mheath_ | The mechanical equivelent of a heart attack. |
| 03:14.07 | emcnabb | well, your transmission could have been damaged |
| 03:14.19 | emcnabb | does it seem to be able to switch gears ok? |
| 03:14.37 | mheath_ | yeah |
| 03:14.45 | mheath_ | I mean, I went back up to 3rd no problem |
| 03:14.54 | mheath_ | And had no noticeable difficulty and no weird noises after that |
| 03:15.05 | mheath_ | Just the weird something-is-burnt smell and the horrible noise.... |
| 03:15.12 | mheath_ | That went away after a bit, though. |
| 03:15.17 | emcnabb | I've done the same thing before (at fast speeds), and I've never caused any noticable damage |
| 03:15.35 | emcnabb | keep a close eye on it though to see if the transmission seems to be acting up |
| 03:16.05 | mheath_ | That clutch engages *really* early |
| 03:16.14 | emcnabb | it takes a while to get the hang of it |
| 03:16.23 | emcnabb | you'll get it though |
| 03:16.28 | mheath_ | Its still awkward giving it enough gas early enough to not have a rough start |
| 03:17.01 | mheath_ | After I'm in first, its no problem. Switching gears is natural and comfortable |
| 03:17.19 | mheath_ | Question |
| 03:17.37 | goozbach | mheath_: you should be ok |
| 03:17.47 | goozbach | you may have burnt a bit of clutch is all |
| 03:18.18 | mheath_ | I went to go and get a replacement blade for the "Mach3 Power" razor my brother got me for Christmas. WHY do they charge $2 more per blade for these than the standard Mach3 razor, when this part of it has nothing to do with the electronics (vibration)?? |
| 03:18.36 | mheath_ | The only difference is the way it connects to the body of the razor. |
| 03:19.30 | goozbach | mheath_: welcome to one of the only legal rackets still going strong |
| 03:20.11 | goozbach | PERL PERL PERL! |
| 03:21.09 | mheath_ | ~lart Perl |
| 03:21.28 | goozbach | mheath_: thanks... |
| 03:21.45 | goozbach | nothing brings fozzmoo out of the woodworks faster than to defend perl. |
| 03:22.22 | mheath_ | agh, I need a new job :( |
| 03:24.08 | mheath_ | I really can't jobhunt, thoguh |
| 03:24.09 | mheath_ | *though |
| 03:24.42 | mheath_ | I'll be gone in 4 months. It will take me a few weeks to find a new job, and no place will higher and train me if I'm only going to be working for 3 months |
| 03:25.41 | mheath_ | Heh, are little kids not allowed to buy razors (shaving) at walmart? |
| 03:26.03 | goozbach | wouldn't suprise me |
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| 03:26.22 | mheath_ | When she scanned the ones I was buying, the scanner made the same noise it made when I was purchasing a fixed blade knife a few months ago. Only then they asked me for ID to prove I was at least 16. |
| 03:26.50 | levi | So, what's the damage? |
| 03:27.20 | mheath_ | O.o |
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| 03:28.28 | levi | My wireless card seems to not work as well when it gets warm. |
| 03:28.33 | mheath_ | indeed. |
| 03:28.56 | levi | If you said what happened to your car, I missed it. |
| 03:29.28 | mheath_ | levi: I somehow accidentally went into 1st when I meant to downshift from 4th to 3rd and didn't notice. |
| 03:29.41 | mheath_ | I was driving in 1st at about 40MPH for a few seconds. |
| 03:30.04 | levi | How high did the RPMs go? |
| 03:32.13 | mheath_ | Beyond redlineing. Somewhere up like 10,000, IIRC. |
| 03:32.33 | levi | And you left it there for literally several seconds? |
| 03:32.49 | mheath_ | A second or two. I got the clutch in quickly. |
| 03:33.34 | mheath_ | erm, probably more like a second or less. It was quick. |
| 03:33.51 | levi | Yeah, a few seconds would be a rather long time. |
| 03:34.15 | levi | Well, it's possible that you did some damage, but it's also possible that it'll be okay. |
| 03:34.23 | mheath_ | It was hard to not notice that noise, or the way the car moved =P |
| 03:37.12 | levi | Where's the redline on that car? |
| 03:38.31 | mheath_ | I want to say 10k, but I'm not positive. |
| 03:39.05 | mheath_ | Its a very new car to me, only been driving it for a few days. New to manual, too, so paying lots of attention to the tachometer is new to me too. |
| 03:39.05 | levi | I doubt it; most cars are around 6.5k or so. |
| 03:39.08 | goozbach | it usually takes a long time to do permant damage in that manner |
| 03:39.22 | goozbach | popping the clutch is usually more dammaging |
| 03:41.29 | mheath_ | I just decided....after I serve in the military....when I die, I definately want a full military honor guard at my funeral, and taps to be played. |
| 03:41.50 | mheath_ | My dad, who was in the military for 30 years, is indifferent on the topic. I'm adament. |
| 03:42.47 | mheath_ | Sorry, that was a totally random thought to you. Related to something I was reading. |
| 03:45.30 | levi | The main difference between engines that can rev to 6000 vs. 10000 (and certainly no non-exotic production car has a redline of 10000) is one of manufacturing tolerances. |
| 03:45.31 | levi | If you got a particularly good engine, as far as engine balancing goes, it might not hurt it at all. |
| 03:45.31 | levi | A particularly poor engine might shake itself apart after a short time at 10k. |
| 03:45.31 | levi | I imagine the redline is set fairly conservatively in most modern vehicles. |
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| 03:47.13 | levi | Gah. |
| 04:01.51 | levi | mheath_: Anyway, I hope your car is okay. |
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| 05:05.30 | mheath_ | haha....Gotta love the checkout form on this NEX website |
| 05:05.58 | mheath_ | One of the choices under "Status" (which includes Active, Reserve, ROTC, Cadets, etc) is "Medal of Honor Recipient". |
| 05:06.14 | mheath_ | Just wonder how many Medal of Honor recipients there are that justifies them creating a category just for them. |
| 05:09.03 | levi | What's NEX? |
| 05:09.29 | levi | Online shopping for Naval folks? |
| 05:10.04 | mheath_ | levi: NEX is just plain shopping for Naval folks |
| 05:10.20 | levi | Ah, like a PX, then. |
| 05:10.31 | mheath_ | Its just a plain store, comparable to Walmart (or, in some instances, comparable to a mall), but is also the only place to buy Navy uniforms. |
| 05:11.19 | mheath_ | levi: PX = Army, BX = Air Force, NEX = Navy + Coast Guard + Marine Corp. |
| 05:11.51 | levi | I'm very familiar with PXes. |
| 05:12.13 | levi | And you paid no sales tax! |
| 05:12.23 | mheath_ | Yep |
| 05:12.34 | mheath_ | And I would have paid for no shipping, but I paid for 1-day. |
| 05:12.42 | mheath_ | ($10 is all! For overnight! :) ) |
| 05:12.51 | mheath_ | Though it still won't ship until Tuesday :( |
| 05:12.54 | levi | Alas, I can no longer shop at PXes. |
| 05:13.07 | mheath_ | levi: When could you? Are you prior-service? |
| 05:13.16 | levi | I was a dependant. |
| 05:13.22 | mheath_ | Ah. |
| 05:13.27 | mheath_ | hahah |
| 05:13.43 | mheath_ | We're doing swim quals at Hill AFB on Sunday. Swim training. |
| 05:13.55 | levi | I still get to use USAA insurance, though. :) |
| 05:14.08 | mheath_ | We usually meet at Fort Douglas, with the Naval reservists. |
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| 05:15.07 | mheath_ | I'm wondering what the sentries at HAFB are going to think when I pull up wearing a USN enlisted uniform in a car marked as an officers (I'm a dependent of my dad) and use a military dependent ID card. =P |
| 05:15.37 | mheath_ | Though I could get on using my USNSCC ID card, as we're doing official training there. |
| 05:18.08 | mheath_ | <-- Seaman Michael Heath, Assistant Leading Petty Officer, Great Salt Lake Division, United States Naval Sea Cadet Corp =P |
| 05:19.19 | levi | I'm not very impressed by titles, but they are kind of nice to have as decoration. |
| 05:20.14 | mheath_ | If you know anything about our organization, my title would perplex you |
| 05:20.45 | levi | It's just as well that I don't, then. I don't need any more things to be perplexed about. |
| 05:21.00 | mheath_ | As in most divisions, you'd never see someone thats my rank holding the postion of Asstant Leading Petty Officer. However, because our divisions adult leadership sucks at recruiting and retention, I'm somehow now the 3rd highest ranking cadet. |
| 05:27.15 | levi | I think I like this later movement of Beethoven's 5th Symphony better than the first one. |
| 05:31.25 | mheath_ | levi: I'm not a classical music buff, so pardon me if this is a deeply stupid question, but isn't that the rather common/famous piece that opens rather violently? "Duh-duh-duh DUHHHH.....Duh-Duh-Duh-DUHHHH." At least, that is, one movement within that symphony. |
| 05:31.53 | levi | mheath_: Yes, that's the opening of the first movement. |
| 05:32.11 | mheath_ | Heh, one of my favorite movies draws connections to that portion of the movement. |
| 05:32.16 | mheath_ | The Longest Day |
| 05:32.40 | mheath_ | Turns out that the beat of the feast measure or two is the same as the morse code signal for victory. |
| 05:32.46 | mheath_ | *first measure |
| 05:33.16 | mheath_ | theres an airborne humming it, and when one of his fellow soldiers asks why he explains that. And its used on the soundtrack, too.. |
| 05:41.20 | levi | Hmm. That was probably coincidental, but it's pretty cool. |
| 05:45.02 | levi | I've heard the opening theme came from the sound of a bird he heard while walking through a park. |
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| 06:29.32 | xbmodder_lappy | anyone here a iptables god |
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| 06:55.37 | QBFreak | dangit, I missed stargate |
| 06:56.22 | QBFreak | errr |
| 06:56.23 | QBFreak | farscape |
| 06:56.27 | QBFreak | slight difference there |
| 07:03.11 | QBFreak | it'll be on again at 4 am but I'd realyl like to be asleep before then |
| 07:20.03 | xbmodder_lappy | tivo |
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| 07:33.07 | Hhhhhhh | hello |
| 07:36.25 | levi | Heya. |
| 08:00.01 | xbmodder_lappy | nobody needs a VPS here? |
| 08:08.56 | xbmodder_lappy | !!! Digest verification Failed: |
| 08:08.56 | xbmodder_lappy | !!! /usr/portage/dev-db/mysql/files/digest-mysql-4.1.18-r30 |
| 08:08.56 | xbmodder_lappy | !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size |
| 08:09.59 | QBFreak | VPS? virtual private server? |
| 08:10.38 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 08:10.45 | xbmodder_lappy | starting at 12.95 a month! |
| 08:12.24 | xbmodder_lappy | but do you have an amazingly powerful, and fast Line? |
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| 15:33.15 | mheath_ | *sigh* I bough the most expensive article of clothing I've ever owned last night. |
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| 15:53.30 | sjansen | ~haha emcnabb |
| 15:53.31 | ibot | ACTION beats emcnabb about the head with the ha ha bat |
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| 17:12.04 | tensai | ~rlart |
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| 17:15.35 | sjansen | ~troll tensai |
| 17:15.36 | ibot | ACTION hereby declares tensai a troll |
| 17:27.42 | maquis | ~buckybot sjansen |
| 17:27.43 | ibot | sjansen: you're a stupid idiot, and I can tell you that all I want, but if you say anything mean to me, I'll start crying and insulting everything I can, because you're discriminating against me! |
| 17:36.48 | maquis | ~literal rlart |
| 17:36.49 | ibot | "rlart" is "<reply> see lart $randnick" |
| 17:37.19 | maquis | ~rglare is <reply> see glare $randnick |
| 17:37.20 | ibot | maquis: okay |
| 17:37.25 | maquis | ~rglare |
| 17:38.04 | maquis | ~glare $randnick |
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| 17:43.34 | sjansen | ~rglare |
| 17:43.49 | sjansen | ~glare maquis |
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| 17:58.31 | maquis | ~glare $foo is <action> glares evilly at $foo |
| 17:58.33 | ibot | ...but cmd: glare (.*?) is already something else... |
| 17:58.47 | maquis | ~no, glare $foo is <action> glares evilly at $foo |
| 17:59.13 | maquis | ~glare sjansen |
| 18:09.52 | sjansen | ~mock maquis |
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| 18:20.48 | mheath_ | Hmm, new food at work. |
| 18:20.52 | mheath_ | Tonight will be confusing. |
| 18:20.55 | Tene | is it a moose? |
| 18:21.09 | mheath_ | Eh? |
| 18:21.16 | Tene | The new food. |
| 18:21.23 | mheath_ | No. |
| 18:21.28 | mheath_ | Its "Homestyle Classics" |
| 18:21.43 | Tene | Oh. That's quite different. |
| 18:21.48 | mheath_ | It'll make my job easier. But it all looks rather greesy. I'll have to try some of it tonight. |
| 18:22.12 | mheath_ | Fried Chicken, and a cheezy-pasta-bowl....some of the new things we're getting. |
| 18:22.18 | mheath_ | We're dropping the combos |
| 18:22.49 | mrpull- | mheath_: applebees? |
| 18:23.16 | mheath_ | Yep. |
| 18:23.42 | mheath_ | This combo is going to be hard on mid and fry side =\ |
| 18:25.51 | mheath_ | LMAO |
| 18:26.04 | mrpull- | it cracks me up that people go out to buy "homestyle" food |
| 18:26.15 | mheath_ | I'm looking through some weird search results on the Itunes music store |
| 18:26.28 | mheath_ | Someone actually released a CD called "Run to Cadence with the U.S. Navy Seals" |
| 18:26.34 | mheath_ | hahahahahaha |
| 18:28.57 | mheath_ | Why would you pay $1 for these?! |
| 18:30.21 | mheath_ | I mean, I love cadences. I have fun with them. |
| 18:30.27 | mheath_ | WHEN I'M IN A FORMATION WITH OTHER PEOPLE. |
| 18:30.41 | mheath_ | Somethings wrong with you if you pay $10 for a CD of them, and sit and home listening to them. Or workout to them. |
| 18:33.44 | findlay | ~bzfrag ibot@#bzflag |
| 18:34.03 | findlay | ibot: hello? |
| 18:34.04 | ibot | Howdy Bub |
| 18:34.19 | findlay | ibot: What's up doc? |
| 18:37.09 | findlay | ~lart ~bzfrag |
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| 18:41.18 | findlay | ~bzfrag maquis |
| 18:41.30 | findlay | stupid bzfrag |
| 18:41.46 | findlay | ~literal bzfrag |
| 18:49.52 | lars-ut | ~emulate gir |
| 18:49.53 | ibot | where's my moose? |
| 19:05.57 | mheath_ | mmmm moose |
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| 19:30.41 | findlay | ~welcome TimRiker |
| 19:31.21 | findlay | ibot: are you asleep? |
| 19:31.22 | ibot | zzzzzzzz |
| 19:31.28 | findlay | I thought so |
| 19:32.31 | lars-ut | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152058 |
| 19:32.41 | lars-ut | brac! |
| 19:32.52 | lars-ut | oh, he's offline |
| 19:34.51 | lars-ut | Antec mid-tower case w/450w psu & old faithful NEC DVD burner... |
| 19:34.52 | lars-ut | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129155 |
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| 20:44.19 | sjansen | Uh oh. AIGLX vs GLX. Looks like we've got a battle brewing. |
| 20:45.00 | amcnabb | I don't think I've ever heard of AIGLX. |
| 20:45.52 | sjansen | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx |
| 20:46.46 | amcnabb | Wouldn't it be AIGLX vs XGL? |
| 20:48.52 | sjansen | Sorry, yeah, XGL. |
| 20:49.47 | amcnabb | Sounds like a fun fight. |
| 20:55.48 | findlay | "... but we hope that the rest of the community will help creating interesting and appropriate effects." |
| 20:55.51 | findlay | (: |
| 20:58.44 | findlay | like a GLPenguins, where huge GL penguins appear from the side of the screen and start eating your windows |
| 20:59.17 | findlay | or the camouflage |
| 20:59.47 | findlay | .. useful for hiding those eternally annoying popup confirmation windows |
| 21:00.11 | findlay | s/flage/flage effect/ |
| 21:06.34 | Uncle_Jesse | in a perl regex, what's the negation of [,|\.] |
| 21:06.49 | Uncle_Jesse | I know I can't do [^[,|\.]] |
| 21:08.01 | sjansen | Normally [^,|\.]. |
| 21:08.11 | Uncle_Jesse | ah - I was probably thinking too hard |
| 21:08.29 | Uncle_Jesse | yup - that works - thx |
| 21:08.54 | sjansen | Thought so. Caret at the beginning of a group has special meaning. |
| 21:09.07 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - that's what I want too |
| 21:09.18 | Uncle_Jesse | caret at the beginning negates what's after it |
| 21:09.28 | Uncle_Jesse | aka "not , or ." |
| 21:11.46 | bonez39 | My son, in 4th grade...has this assignment...making a book...a DTP project really...I have about 24 images...... taken with my digital camera....I need to print them onto 13 pages...2 to a page.....they are color....would The GIMP work best for this...or just Word/OO.....whatever is handy? suggestions |
| 21:12.06 | sjansen | In that case, you want [^,\.] (no pipe) |
| 21:13.10 | sjansen | I wouldn't use Gimp. |
| 21:13.44 | bonez39 | no...too complex? |
| 21:18.25 | sjansen | Not the right fit. For starters, the gimp doesn't support multiple pages. |
| 21:19.20 | sjansen | I'd just use OOo. |
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| 21:29.37 | findlay | how do I fold all the code in a file according to syntax in vim? |
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| 21:30.24 | maquis | findlay: you mean like foldmethod=indent? |
| 21:34.06 | findlay | maquis: ok, but how do I make it happen? |
| 21:35.02 | maquis | :set foldmethod=indent |
| 21:35.09 | maquis | :set foldenable |
| 21:35.23 | maquis | ctrl-z ctrl-C |
| 21:35.32 | maquis | i think |
| 21:35.47 | maquis | mine usually opens closed already |
| 21:37.11 | maquis | :he fold should be useful |
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| 21:54.43 | findlay | zM will fold everything in the file |
| 21:54.59 | maquis | ah... right |
| 21:55.07 | harleypig | Is anyone familiar enough with NWN and Intel's POS 82915G vga card to be able to help me fix a slowdown issue? |
| 21:55.19 | maquis | what's NWN? |
| 21:56.16 | harleypig | neverwinter nights. |
| 21:56.27 | harleypig | based off of the d20 rules (D&D) |
| 22:04.59 | maquis | mmk |
| 22:07.11 | sjansen | maquis: an evil video game |
| 22:07.41 | maquis | sjansen: i figured that much out... :) |
| 22:10.11 | harleypig | mmk? |
| 22:10.12 | harleypig | evil? |
| 22:10.17 | harleypig | ~lart sjansen |
| 22:10.21 | harleypig | :D |
| 22:10.23 | maquis | harleypig: mmk is like ok |
| 22:10.28 | maquis | just said differently |
| 22:10.40 | harleypig | oh ... like mmmm k |
| 22:10.50 | harleypig | ok |
| 22:10.51 | harleypig | :> |
| 22:10.52 | maquis | :) |
| 22:11.41 | sjansen | harleypig: your soul is doomed because you touched a 20 sided die |
| 22:12.04 | findlay | I always read it like somewhere between em-k and mem-k |
| 22:12.05 | harleypig | Not only did I touch a (n)-sided die, I touched several! |
| 22:18.40 | findlay | what does a perl sub return by default? Can it have a return statement? |
| 22:21.12 | harleypig | findlay: a perl sub returns the last evaluated statement |
| 22:21.29 | harleypig | sub one { 'Hi!' } returns 'Hi!' |
| 22:21.38 | harleypig | sub two { 1 + 1 } returns 2 |
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| 22:21.59 | findlay | but you can have an explicit return statement it looks like |
| 22:22.03 | harleypig | findlay: yeah |
| 22:22.12 | findlay | thanks harleypig |
| 22:22.17 | harleypig | sub three { if ( 1 ) { return 1 } else { return undef } } |
| 22:22.36 | harleypig | welcome |
| 22:24.51 | mrpull- | since we are talking perl. has anyone tried EPIC? |
| 22:25.41 | findlay | mrpull-: I've thought about it, haven't tried yet |
| 22:26.23 | mrpull- | it looks pretty slick. i have tried komodo and like it. |
| 22:26.52 | mrpull- | i don't really do anything more than "one liners" anyway, but when I grow up I might need a more sophisticated tool than vim |
| 22:28.34 | harleypig | mrpull-: Havn't heard of it ... what is it? |
| 22:28.49 | mrpull- | EPIC is a perl plugin for eclipse |
| 22:28.50 | harleypig | err ... VIm is incredibly sophisticated ... |
| 22:29.01 | findlay | aha! balspemy!! he admits to derision of vim |
| 22:29.05 | harleypig | It's just not your standard gui. |
| 22:29.14 | findlay | (: |
| 22:29.31 | mrpull- | harleypig: whoops... I meant something better than notepad.exe |
| 22:30.10 | mrpull- | EPIC appeals to me, I wouldn't expect it to convert any hardcore vim/emacs guys though. |
| 22:30.42 | harleypig | mrpull-: yeah, notepad and vim are so similar! :D |
| 22:31.44 | mrpull- | harleypig: no worries. i'm not putting down anybodies editors. |
| 22:31.45 | harleypig | Eclipse seems to be appealing to a lot of people, but I like being able to edit my stuff in any terminal I happen to be in. |
| 22:34.09 | findlay | harleypig: having now started using vim seriously for work on a large, at least to me, codebase I find some features deficient especially regarding ctags and code completion |
| 22:34.31 | findlay | but I know that's probably mostly due to my Hello, World vimrc |
| 22:35.20 | findlay | or, "Hello, World" sophistication of vim customization skillz |
| 22:35.34 | findlay | at least I hope |
| 22:36.40 | mrpull- | i do miss vim style navigation in most editors i've tried, but code completion, online docs, debuggers, etc go a long way to overcome that deficiency. |
| 22:37.09 | maquis | i need to learn some of the cool vim tools |
| 22:39.44 | harleypig | findlay: in what way? |
| 22:40.39 | harleypig | mrpull-: vim has code completion (at least word completion), excellent docs and doc navigation tools and very good dbg integration (perl -d is another matter). |
| 22:41.33 | findlay | harleypig: specifically to the fact that ctags doesn't (can't?) account for global scalars/objects or at other scopes |
| 22:41.46 | mrpull- | harleypig: the word completion seems hobbled compared to the visual studio style code completion that is popular in most IDE's now. |
| 22:42.06 | harleypig | oh, you mean argument completion? |
| 22:42.46 | harleypig | findlay: I think exuberant ctags takes care of some of those problems. Also, if you are using perl you might consider ptags. |
| 22:42.49 | levi | emacs + SLIME gives IDE-level support for coding Common Lisp. It's very nice. |
| 22:43.24 | findlay | what I think would be cool is a drop down kind of menu like in links/lynx for code completion |
| 22:44.40 | levi | The cool thing about SLIME is that half of it is running in an active lisp image, so it can asks the image about function parameters, object slots, etc. |
| 22:45.35 | findlay | harleypig: etags seems to only index subs and ignore scalars, arrays, etc. But how would you account for them anyway? It seems like a difficult problem to me |
| 22:45.43 | harleypig | argument completion is due out in then ext version of vim. |
| 22:46.08 | harleypig | findlay: oh ... I didn't read your statement well enough. |
| 22:46.43 | harleypig | yeah, that's a problem, one that is being discussed and various things tried, but with perl it's not an easy solution, although with PPI that may change. |
| 22:55.54 | nick125 | anyone here play cube? |
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| 23:00.00 | nick125_lappy | anyone want to play a game of cube? |
| 23:08.58 | mrpull- | nick125: cube? |
| 23:09.03 | mrpull- | what is that? |
| 23:09.37 | nick125_lappy | a game.. |
| 23:14.07 | mrpull- | no kidding? |
| 23:14.29 | mrpull- | ~google game cube |
| 23:15.15 | nick125_lappy | yes its a game |
| 23:15.44 | mrpull- | a little less terse description might help :) |
| 23:16.22 | nick125_lappy | search for cube engine |
| 23:27.32 | emcnabb | http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newphotos/weird/ |
| 23:28.55 | emcnabb | that's if you need something to cheer you up on a Monday afternoon |
| 23:42.53 | sjansen | there's some good ones in there |
| 23:50.23 | nick125 | anyone here have cube installed that wants to play? |