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00:29.28hanswahoo
00:29.45hanshttp://www.debian.org/News/weekly/
00:29.46brac[Debian Weekly News - Index]
00:29.50hanshttp://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2006/01/msg01088.html
00:29.51brac[Re: ¿Wireless del iBook G4 de 12" está soportado en Debian?]
00:30.21hansibook g4 airport extreme supported in linux now
00:38.11hans-lart vontrapp
00:39.16hansif you have a broadcom card in your laptop, it might be worth looking into. debian weekly news
00:39.16hanshttp://lwn.net/Articles/162894/
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01:04.53teneI'd just like to mention here that microsoft and php are evil.  That is all.
01:04.55QBFreakwrong button...
01:05.25QBFreakdoes this mean you wont help me get PHP working with IIS?
01:05.45tenetrying to get php talking to mssql right now, actually.
01:06.04QBFreakahhh funfun
01:06.16jsmithtene: It's not that hard... PHP -> FreeTDS -> MSSQL
01:12.28teneyeah
01:12.42tenefreetds was being a jerk
01:12.44teneas is php
01:14.12jsmithWhy was FreeTDS giving you grief?
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01:41.15QBFreakarg
01:41.39QBFreakthe play button on my ATI remote no longer works with the winamp5 plugin
01:44.13xbmodder_lappy:-(
01:45.07nick125wewt
01:45.13nick125xen is compiling
01:45.39xbmodder_lappylol
01:45.39xbmodder_lappyw00t
01:45.46xbmodder_lappywrote 167147 bytes  read 9443492 bytes  26009.85 bytes/sec
01:45.46xbmodder_lappytotal size is 116235218  speedup is 12.09
01:45.48xbmodder_lappy:-(
01:46.07nick125lol
01:49.25nick12526009 bytes/sec is..umm..
01:49.26nick125sad?
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02:00.36QBFreakupgrading winamp didn't help, upgrading the remote software didn't help
02:05.23xbmodder_lappyQuote of the Day - William James - "The art of being wise is the art of knowing what to overlook."
02:05.44QBFreakthat was the quote of the day yesterday or the day before...at least on the rss feed gmail uses
02:07.47xbmodder_lappythat was today, liar!
02:09.11QBFreakmusta seen it last night then when I was getting to be rather out of it
02:11.44xbmodder_lappyyeah
02:14.10mheathw00t
02:14.15mheathfinally found a copy of that movie
02:14.21mheath~praise Hollywood Video
02:14.24ibotAll hail Hollywood Video!
02:14.36mheathThe downside is, it's an overused VHS copy from the early 80's.
02:14.45mheathHorrible quality.
02:17.58nick125yay..my lappys rebooting into xen :D:D:D:D
02:33.10xbmodder_lappyok
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03:02.36maquishttp://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060215-6190.html  <-- so... if it's illegal for me to rip my cds to mp3s, why in the world should i buy a cd?
03:05.52nick125me too..
03:06.04maquisyeah
03:14.00nick125i hope we dont have to move to..*GULP* UML
03:14.30xbmodder_lappy~gulp
03:14.56xbmodder_lappy~actions gulps
03:15.00xbmodder_lappy~action gulps
03:15.01ibotACTION gulps
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03:15.50xbmodder_lappyhey pmcnabb!
03:15.55xbmodder_lappyYou need  a VPS!
03:16.33nick125i need xen to work
03:17.25xbmodder_lappyyeah
03:17.31xbmodder_lappyType of Service (RFC 1349) is a single-byte field in an IP packet header that specifies the service level required for the packet. It is now called the DS field and can have the following values: Bits 0-2: Precedence Bit 3: 0 = Normal Delay, 1 = Low Delay Bit 4: 0 = Normal Throughput, 1 = High Throughput Bit 5: 0 = Normal Reliability, 1 = High Reliability Bits 6-7: Reserved for Future UseUML
03:17.32xbmodder_lappyQoS
03:17.32xbmodder_lappyFiguring out how to setup server?!
03:17.32xbmodder_lappyLVM2
03:17.35xbmodder_lappyRAIDX
03:17.37xbmodder_lappyThats me "TODO" list
03:17.48nick125my todo list:
03:17.50nick125KILL XEN
03:17.53nick125KILL XEN SOME MORE
03:17.58nick125HAVE FUN KILLING XEN
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03:18.25nick125xbmodder_lappy: does that sound like a plan?
03:18.35xbmodder_lappyhehe
03:18.42tensaimaquis: they'll say whatever supports the almighty buck. doesn't necessarily make it right.
03:18.57nick125xbmodder_lappy: i think im missing IDE support or something like that
03:19.18xbmodder_lappylol
03:19.27tensaiand when they consider profits, they never look beyond the current fiscal year. short term planning, now there's a recipe for success.
03:19.34nick125or probably blockdevice support or something
03:19.54nick125remember, xen_blk is a block device
03:21.01xbmodder_lappyyeah
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03:21.13nick125ok enabled some block and ide junk
03:21.30maquistensai: but...  if everybody stops buying cds, because it's stupid...
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03:21.34maquisi mean...c'mon
03:21.44maquisyou have 2 choices... both of them are infringing copyright
03:21.51maquisone is free, and the other costs money
03:22.52nick125lol
03:23.01elg-lart vontrapp
03:23.12nick125-lart xen
03:23.20nick125yay :)
03:23.43nick125-lart compiler segfaults
03:31.29tensaimaquis: yes. that's where the short term planning really pays off.
03:32.28maquistensai: i suppose on the positive side, the RIAA is working really hard to destroy itself....  so, maybe it'll succeed?
03:32.46tensaimaquis: take drm cds, for example. they've now made the cd less valuable. how is that supposed to encourage me to buy them vs. downloading?
03:32.58tensaimaquis: we can only hope. for all my purposes, they have.
03:36.39xbmodder_lappyDigg is kinda dumb:
03:36.39xbmodder_lappyTruth: Curly brackets must always go in the next line, and you must use tabs, not spaces.
03:37.12xbmodder_lappyWow... even dumber: Truth: Real programmers use Java. No, make that Python. I mean C#. As long as it窶冱 not PHP. Or anything that looks like BASIC.
03:38.13nick125ok im about 5 seconds from moving to xen 2.0
03:38.45xbmodder_lappymonarch computers _sucks_
03:38.59xbmodder_lappyThey gave me a bad HDD, CPU, Mobo..
03:39.03xbmodder_lappy:-(
03:39.11xbmodder_lappyAt least only _one_ HDD was bad
03:40.11xbmodder_lappy<PROTECTED>
03:51.29xbmodder_lappyQBFreak, are you there?
04:18.38maquisgah...  so loud
04:25.15mheathxbmodder_lappy, how is that dumb? Sounds like generic, common jokes about some overly-hyped trends in computer programming.
04:25.22mheathNot too funny, but not exactly dumb.
04:25.39mheathharleypig, are you around?
04:26.12xbmodder_lappymaquis, I thought it was serious.
04:26.27xbmodder_lappys/maquis/mheath/
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04:37.01nick125what the...
04:37.13mheatheh?
04:37.27nick125*STAB*
04:37.30mheathdataw0lf, you around, or was that an autoreconnect?
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04:39.23nick125xen was thinking i only gave 384kb to dom0
04:42.22QBFreakxbmodder_lappy: I am now
04:48.23xbmodder_lappysup
04:48.43QBFreaknot much, should be in bed but reading instead
04:48.58nick125lol
04:49.00xbmodder_lappycool.
04:49.26mheathQBFreak, you naughty child.
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05:03.05fugalhI am speaking to you from my iBook in linux over wireless with no external wireless card
05:03.33QBFreakack, voice in my head! get out!
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05:08.09maquisfugalh: congrats...
05:08.31maquisQBFreak: what do you mean about "should be in bed"?
05:09.03leviGood evening.
05:09.18QBFreakI'm tired and it would do me good to go to sleep at a decent hour
05:19.51mheath*sigh*
05:21.08QBFreakheh
05:22.07xbmodder_lappyfugalh, don't all ibooks have internal wireless cards?
05:22.21mheathAnd ultimately more disturbing that the same person would base an entire class's worth of teaching obviously around ideas in Orson Scott Card's books
05:23.04mheathHe spent the entire classroom discussing an idea that was an abstraction of Card's philotic twines idea manifested in the later books in the series. This is supported by the fact that the teacher had a copy of "Children of the Mind" on his desk.
05:23.59mheaths/in the series/in the Ender's Game series/
05:24.13levimheath: What class?
05:25.25mheathlevi, college level philosophy
05:25.35mheath(Highschool class, counts for college credit)
05:27.11leviWhy do you think the teacher is 'ultimately stupid'?
05:28.06mheathlevi, His inability to backup outrageous theories and thoughts when I make simple logical arguments against them.
05:28.29leviWhat outrageous theories and thoughts?
05:29.30mheathlevi, we got into a political discussion, for example, on the constitutionality of seatbelt laws
05:29.43mheathHe argued that they were entirely unconstitional
05:30.06mheathand started going on about how congress was restricting how many children he could have as he didn't have enough seatbelts for more than 3, and couldn't afford a nicer car.
05:31.05mheathHe was talking today about how eating a chicken would let you gain all of the chickens thoughts, if we only knew how to open up the "file".
05:31.34leviDid he use the word 'grok'?
05:31.48xbmodder_lappyyeah
05:32.14mheathlevi, hehehe, nope
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05:32.42mheathlevi, oh, and he was trying to tell us that if you went out far enough into space, you could hear sounds that happened on earth millenia ago.
05:32.52mheathIE, beat the soundwaves out there
05:33.19mheathImplying during that comment that 1) Sound traveled at the speed of light, and 2) sound can travel in space, and 3) that sound somehow magically became light when it reached space
05:33.25xbmodder_lappy:-/ I think he meant radio waves, and maybe since the beginning of radio waves
05:33.36mheathxbmodder_, No.
05:33.44xbmodder_lappywow.
05:33.47xbmodder_lappyThats sad
05:33.49mheathHe used a speech mentioned in the bible as a rather specific example.
05:33.52leviApparently he didn't take enough physics in his 12 years of school.
05:33.57xbmodder_lappyhehe
05:33.57mheathlevi, 21*
05:34.05xbmodder_lappyWe learned that in 5th grade
05:34.07leviOh, yeah, 21.
05:34.23xbmodder_lappyThat sound doesn't go through a vacum.
05:34.56mheathHe has this bizare theory too that light is somehow a record of everything that ever was
05:35.03mheathso the 4th dimension is time, but its also light
05:35.26xbmodder_lappyAre you getting an A in the class?
05:35.42levimheath: Where did they get this guy?
05:36.13mheathI dunno.
05:36.40mheathHe did some weird demonstration too, about human strength when we're holding various items.
05:36.53mheathIE, try to push someones arm down when they're holding bottled water versus when they're holding alcohol
05:37.00mheathAn interesting psychology lesson
05:37.19mheathBut he was basically telling the class that we're all philotically connected to the bottled water, and philotically connected to the alcohol in a different way.
05:37.47mheathThis all meant for some interesting discussion
05:37.54mheaths/meant/made/
05:37.55leviDoes he ever talk about, you know, Plato and friends?
05:38.56mheathlevi, Briefly, in support of his The-4th-dimension-is-time-and-light theory, in which he interpreted one of Plato's dialogues in a bizarrely different way than most people out there.
05:39.28leviSo, basically, he's teaching a bunch of new-age crap in the guise of philosophy.
05:39.43maquisthis sounds like an....  interesting... teacher
05:40.26mheathlevi, basically. And not even popular new-age crap. As I said, most of todays discussion came from Orson Scott Card's Ender's Game series. The philotic twines and such
05:40.47mheath(I'm not just guessing that - he never referenced the books directly, but I could tell, and he had a copy of one of them on his desk)
05:40.54leviHe should get together with the Time Cube guy.
05:41.26mheathI just find it disturbing that someone can go to school for so long and still be this..misguided.
05:41.38maquisflat-earth society!
05:41.50mheathThe guy is very knowlegable at certain things. For example, he's working on his Masters in archaeology right now.
05:42.07mheathAnd a bachelors in....Egyptology?
05:42.16xbmodder_lappyWhere is he from?
05:42.17maquisooh...  egyptology is cool
05:42.19leviHrm.
05:42.24mheatherm, wait
05:42.33mheathHe teaches egyptology. Already has his masters in that.
05:42.40mheath(Although he's never been to egypt)
05:42.54maquisyou can get a masters in egyptology without going to egypt?
05:43.08mheathHe teaches at weber state too.
05:43.11mheathmaquis, apparently.
05:43.26mheathHe's organizing a tour of Egypt for highschool students next summer
05:43.43mheathhe was talking about how he's so excited, because he's never been there. "I can teach the subject, but I've never expeirenced it"
05:43.58maquisbut... where's the fun in that? half the fun of studying egyptology would be to actually *go* to egypt, and see the pyramids and everything else
05:44.09mheathindeed
05:44.16mheathhe studies mayan ruins religiously, though =P
05:45.12mheathhe knows some computer programming though
05:45.27mheathFortran (comes from getting an engineering degree in the 1960's, I guess)
05:46.08maquissounds like his interests as far as archaeology aren't that off-the-wall
05:46.53mheathThe guys insane
05:46.59mheathhe has like 6 degrees, working on two more
05:47.13mheath20 (?) grandchildren...works out every night...says he reads 4-5 large books a week...
05:47.19mheathteaches highschool and college
05:47.22mheathmarried
05:47.30mheathand he takes frequent long visits to Mexico
06:01.33findlayhey, now Oracle wants to buy mySQL
06:01.52xbmodder_lappyyeah
06:02.05findlaymaybe they will try to buy mcrosoft so they can get SQL server too
06:04.31xbmodder_lappyhehe
06:04.45findlayif I write a new database, will Oracle try to buy me?
06:08.30xbmodder_lappylol
06:08.31xbmodder_lappyyeah
06:10.13xbmodder_lappylol
06:10.15nick125xbmodder_lappy: have you got the piece of crap to work?
06:10.30xbmodder_lappyworking on it
06:10.51nick125mm.c: In function `update_l1e':
06:10.52nick125mm.c:1038: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
06:11.11mheathUm
06:11.19mheathYou're running that in Xen?
06:11.20xbmodder_lappyslow
06:11.23xbmodder_lappySLOW SLOW!
06:11.28mheathOr you're getting that when compiling Xen?
06:11.39nick125mheath: i get that when compiling xen and any time i compile kernel
06:11.43xbmodder_lappynick125, dom0 works....
06:11.46mheathnick125, =\
06:11.48xbmodder_lappysort of.
06:11.55nick125xbmodder_lappy: lol
06:12.00nick125mheath: i think my laptops screwed up..again
06:12.04mheathThat error usually means somethings up with your hardware. At least, thats what its meant whenever I've seen it.
06:12.11mheathEither bad RAM or bad CPU, likely.
06:12.35nick125just had the CPU replaced because it fried due to heat (this is my laptop), and the ram comes though fine on memtest86+
06:12.47mheathCould be other things
06:12.55mheathMemory controller, misc. things on the mainboard.
06:13.02nick125i was just thinking mobo
06:13.03mheathHDD problems if you're caching things
06:13.09xbmodder_lappymheath, I ended up with bad CPU, Mobo (MMU), HDDs
06:13.12xbmodder_lappy:-(
06:13.21nick125when i took the thing in the last time, they originally thought it was mobo, but, it turned out to be cpu..
06:13.23mheathxbmodder_, buy from a beter computer retailer then
06:13.24xbmodder_lappythanks Monarch Computers
06:13.36mheathPlace I bought my comp from has 4 year parts and labor warranty.
06:13.44mheathOne of my comps, that is
06:13.55xbmodder_lappyyeah
06:13.56nick125but, its quite possible that when the CPU fried (due to heat..if they would have looked at the heatsink the first 5 times i took it there, it wouldnt have been a problem)
06:14.03nick125the mobo fried too..
06:14.06xbmodder_lappyI think I am going to build and buy from dell now on
06:14.18mheathxbmodder_, dell? Why? O.o
06:14.35mheathI've owned a few dells and been mildly impressed, but they were all P-2 era
06:14.47nick125and the stupid computer shop wont fix it because it works fine (according to them) in windows
06:14.49mheathFrom what I've heard from others, the general consensus is that modern dell sucks
06:14.58Newsomeyup
06:14.58nick125and i dont want to pay to get it fixed somewhere else
06:15.03mheathnick125, cygwin.
06:15.11xbmodder_lappyI bought a Dell recently. I hart it.
06:15.16mheathShould generate the same error in Windows.
06:15.17nick125mheath: they will blame it on linux
06:15.33mheathnick125, Microsoft's UNIX portability toolkit
06:15.33xbmodder_lappyOf course it was 1500 dollars for a simple box...
06:15.34xbmodder_lappybut yeah
06:15.35NewsomeI've loved my Dell laptops, but the desktops keep getting cheaper and crappier
06:15.36mheathWhich comes with gcc
06:15.36nick125they call it a hackers os..i got "lectured" about how linux is a hackers os, and laptops are _DESIGNED_ to run on windows..
06:15.40xbmodder_lappyor use IBM.
06:16.14xbmodder_lappynick125, xen-3.0.1 is cool
06:16.15mheathnick125, the program that is generating that error is the GNU Compiler Collection's C compiler. This compiler is also officially included in a package distributed my Microsoft.
06:16.21nick125"oh, no coffee shops will even let you in if you have linux installed!!"
06:16.40xbmodder_lappyThis is a slow-arse kernel
06:17.08nick125mheath: mm..i might reboot into windows and try that
06:17.28nick125yes..true true
06:17.28xbmodder_lappyI didn't spell Xen right
06:17.32nick125LOL
06:17.33xbmodder_lappyI spelt it zen.
06:17.34nick125/var/tmp/portage/xen-3.0.1-r1/temp/cce7QMJd.s: Assembler messages:
06:17.34nick125/var/tmp/portage/xen-3.0.1-r1/temp/cce7QMJd.s:3376: Error: value of 0000000000000ec7 too large for field of 1 bytes at 0000000000000234
06:17.37nick125error: command 'i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1
06:17.39xbmodder_lappynick125, oh, shutup.
06:17.49nick125xbmodder_lappy: hehe
06:17.49xbmodder_lappyI killed my system pretty much...
06:17.58mheathnick125, Yep. Definately bad hardware
06:18.05xbmodder_lappyXen bootup takes like 5 minutes
06:18.05mheathmangled bytes in memory =)
06:18.39nick125mheath: and trying to convince the plan i have the extended warranty at just blames linux...the only time they actually looked at the hardware is when i took the thing in and it wouldnt power on at all
06:18.40xbmodder_lappywtf
06:18.45xbmodder_lappybe right back.
06:19.11mheathnick125, what are your warranties terms?
06:19.42nick125mheath: i think after like..4 times of taking it in, they are supposed to say its a defective product and give you a brand new one..or something like that
06:20.00mheathDoes it say anything about only guaranteeing the functionality of Microsoft Windows or not supporting some software?
06:20.07xbmodder_lappyAny ideas why my Xen box can't ping my network?
06:20.31nick125mheath: they say something about you cant modify the box in any way without consulting them first..but, i dont know if that applies to software
06:20.37nick125xbmodder_lappy: dom0 or domU?
06:20.54xbmodder_lappydom0
06:21.01xbmodder_lappyIt can't recieve ANYTHING
06:21.06nick125did you bring the interface up/
06:21.33mheathHey, serious question - would any guys in the Utah be interested in me giving a presentation on GNU's Mach, Hurd, and the currently-in-the-works GNU packaing system? (Stowfs and friends)
06:21.43mheaths/in the/in/
06:22.26mheathnick125, do you live in Utah?
06:22.28nick125ive also been told by the guy at that same shop that if he could, he would be running redhat 8 on his laptop..
06:22.31nick125mheath: sadly, no...
06:22.45mheathHow do we attract so many people who don't live in Utah to here?
06:22.54nick125i have no clue
06:23.15xbmodder_lappyyay
06:23.22Newsomegood question.  why did you come? ;)
06:23.22xbmodder_lappymheath, the gurus....
06:23.47nick125my lappy is like..my only box thats above 1ghz that works
06:23.53nick125that i can really mess on
06:23.53xbmodder_lappyhehe
06:23.57mheathugh
06:24.05xbmodder_lappymheath, Give a presentation at SVLUG
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06:24.36mheathits supposed to keep snowing until 11AM =\
06:24.59mheathxbmodder_lappy, I'll wait until someone who attends SVLUG, or lives within 500 miles of SVU, tells me that.
06:27.09xbmodder_lappylol
06:29.08xbmodder_lappyError: Device 0 (vif) could not be connected. Hotplug scripts not working.
06:30.24nick125xbmodder_lappy: i love that error
06:30.36xbmodder_lappyhow do you fix it?
06:30.44nick125i have no clue in hell how to..
06:30.59nick125do this:
06:31.02nick125xm list
06:31.05xbmodder_lappylol
06:31.07nick125xm console <n>
06:31.12nick125then, in another console:
06:31.15xbmodder_lappyyeah
06:31.16nick125xm unpause <n>
06:31.23nick125does it boot?
06:31.31xbmodder_lappyno.
06:31.37xbmodder_lappyI don't have an OS
06:31.46nick125get ttylinux
06:31.55xbmodder_lappyyeah
06:31.56xbmodder_lappywait
06:31.57xbmodder_lappyno
06:32.05nick125if you get it working, i will strangle you right here. right now.
06:32.31nick125look on the gentoo wiki page for xen
06:33.09xbmodder_lappycrap
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06:33.53nick125LOL
06:33.56nick125smooth
06:34.43xbmodder_lappygod slow this is
06:34.57xbmodder_lappy/home is 34G
06:35.19xbmodder_lappyagainst wall
06:43.56nick125*BANG* *BANG* *BANG*
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06:44.06xbmodder_lappylol
06:44.18nick125what ISO?
06:44.39xbmodder_lappynot ISO
06:44.41nick125lets play shoot-the-idiot-that-wont-be-smart-and-use-ttylinux-first!!
06:44.42xbmodder_lappyhttp://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/2005.1-r1/stages/x86/stage3-x86-2005.1-r1.tar.bz2
06:44.53xbmodder_lappyttylinux is bad
06:45.04nick125xen is worse then a bullet to the head
06:45.12xbmodder_lappyno
06:45.15xbmodder_lappyits not THAT bad
06:45.18nick125yes..
06:45.21nick125you will find out
06:45.23nick125very soon
06:45.40nick125after you spend a week getting "VFS: Cannot mount root"
06:45.46xbmodder_lappyconsidering it hasn't hurt me...
06:46.15nick125its hurt me
06:46.18nick125emotionally
06:46.21nick125:(
06:46.38xbmodder_lappy8 minutes
06:46.48findlaystage3?  oh, come on (:
06:46.49xbmodder_lappyuntil this stupid things comes down on me
06:47.01nick125findlay: xbmodder_lappy is lazy
06:47.05nick125plus, hes doing this in xen
06:48.04nick125so hes going to be booting from this stage3
06:49.01xbmodder_lappylala
06:49.05xbmodder_lappyyeah
06:49.08findlayalal
06:49.18xbmodder_lappyYay, half done
06:50.19maquisxbmodder_lappy: i don't recommend that..
06:50.34nick125lol
06:50.44xbmodder_lappyheh
06:51.12xbmodder_lappyI have a feeling one gig isn't enough for gentoo...
06:51.24findlayxbmodder_lappy: nope
06:51.31xbmodder_lappydang....
06:51.32nick125xbmodder_lappy: it will work..for now least
06:51.37xbmodder_lappynope
06:51.40xbmodder_lappyit won't...
06:51.46findlayxbmodder_lappy: LVM?
06:51.49xbmodder_lappyI need like ~8
06:51.55nick125xbmodder_lappy: we just need something that BOOTS
06:52.02xbmodder_lappyumm..
06:52.03xbmodder_lappyshh..
06:53.03xbmodder_lappyc'mon, A little faster.
06:53.11xbmodder_lappy85% [==============================>      ] 78,726,022   159.75K/s    ETA 01:37
06:53.13xbmodder_lappy...
06:53.52xbmodder_lappymake that server come on Friday so I can Colo it on saturday
06:54.11xbmodder_lappy94% [=================================>   ] 86,996,998   159.95K/s    ETA 00:39
06:55.35xbmodder_lappylala
06:56.07xbmodder_lappyhow?
06:56.13xbmodder_lappywithout money
06:56.19xbmodder_lappyor breaking any laws....
06:56.20xbmodder_lappy:-)
06:56.23findlayawkward construction
06:56.26nick125netzero net accelerator!
06:56.31xbmodder_lappyLol
06:56.33findlayI meant my bandwidth is 4x that
06:56.43xbmodder_lappyoh, by the way I hate you
06:57.00findlayit's all about the fiber, man
06:57.08xbmodder_lappyDude, I am  out in pleasanton
06:57.19xbmodder_lappythe land of old people
06:57.28xbmodder_lappywho are too rich for their own good
06:57.28nick125im even worse :(
06:57.41xbmodder_lappynick125, you live in NM
06:57.49xbmodder_lappyserved ~ # du -sh /usr/disk
06:57.50xbmodder_lappy5.3G    /usr/disk
06:57.54xbmodder_lappy3 more Gigs to go...
06:57.55xbmodder_lappy:-/
06:57.58nick125lol..
06:58.05xbmodder_lappy2 more!
07:00.24xbmodder_lappy~rlart
07:00.31xbmodder_lappylol
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07:01.22nick125~rlart
07:01.52xbmodder_lappyyou do not know how bad that my 2-way is dieing by xen
07:02.03findlayyou guys should come to Utah, the land of internet freedom where there's an isp on every corner and the highways are paved with fiberglass
07:02.21xbmodder_lappyhehe
07:02.41findlayibot: hehe is eheh
07:02.43ibot...but hehe is already something else...
07:02.55findlayibot: forget hehe
07:02.55ibotfindlay: i forgot hehe
07:02.58findlayibot: hehe is eheh
07:03.00ibotokay, findlay
07:04.31xbmodder_lappylalal
07:04.32xbmodder_lappyok
07:06.40xbmodder_lappythis is>>> Updating Portage cache:
07:06.40xbmodder_lappyTraceback (most recent call last):
07:06.40xbmodder_lappy<PROTECTED>
07:06.40xbmodder_lappy<PROTECTED>
07:06.40xbmodder_lappyIndexError: list index out of range
07:06.44xbmodder_lappybad...
07:07.57nick125still in chroot?
07:09.06nick125upgrade portage
07:09.16nick125it seems that version of portage, on first sync, does that
07:09.42xbmodder_lappynope
07:09.50xbmodder_lappyit boots :-P
07:09.59xbmodder_lappydude.. your dumb
07:10.16xbmodder_lappylocalhost ﾃ # uname -a
07:10.16xbmodder_lappyLinux localhost 2.6.12.6-xenatarack #2 SMP Wed Feb 15 22:58:32 PST 2006 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
07:10.16xbmodder_lappylocalhost ﾃ # free -m
07:10.16xbmodder_lappy<PROTECTED>
07:10.16xbmodder_lappyMem:           128         27        101          0          0          8
07:10.17xbmodder_lappy-/+ buffers/cache:         18        109
07:10.21xbmodder_lappySwap:            0          0          0
07:10.23nick125WTF
07:10.24xbmodder_lappy:-D
07:10.25nick125WTF did you do?
07:10.28xbmodder_lappyumm
07:10.29nick125to get domU booting
07:10.34xbmodder_lappylol
07:10.41xbmodder_lappyOnly problem is networking
07:10.49nick125how the hell...tell me!!
07:11.15xbmodder_lappyttylinux                           8      128     1 -b----    15.3
07:11.19xbmodder_lappyGentoo rocks dude
07:11.22xbmodder_lappyIt just does...
07:11.37nick125wtf did you do to get it to work?
07:11.43nick125GODDAMNIT TELL ME
07:11.54xbmodder_lappynick125, language
07:11.55maquis~language nick125
07:11.57ibotACTION grabs nick125 by the ear and washes nick125's mouth out with soap
07:12.03xbmodder_lappyhehe
07:12.06xbmodder_lappynick125, umm
07:12.09xbmodder_lappyI don't know
07:12.24xbmodder_lappy"I just can't control myself"
07:12.35maquisnick125: that was a warning...  language is watched in this channel...
07:12.40xbmodder_lappyYeah
07:12.45xbmodder_lappyI got kickbanned for a week
07:12.47xbmodder_lappy:-(
07:12.50nick125xbmodder_lappy: gimme your config for domU (the xm create -c bla bla bla)
07:12.56nick125lol :(
07:12.58nick125sorry
07:13.02xbmodder_lappyIt reduced my swearing by ~200%
07:13.06nick125lol
07:13.24maquisnick125: s'ok... we like to give warnings...  and ibot at least does a fun warning
07:13.33nick125lol
07:13.35xbmodder_lappy~language xbmodder_lappy
07:13.36ibotACTION grabs xbmodder_lappy by the ear and washes xbmodder_lappy's mouth out with soap
07:13.39maquisxbmodder_lappy's not joking about his swearing being reduced significantly
07:13.47nick125~steal ibot's bar of soap
07:13.48ibotACTION grabs ibot's bar of soap and gives it to nick125
07:14.12nick125dont you love it when ibot steals from himself
07:15.18nick125this is what happens after you deal with xen not working for 5-7 days
07:16.23xbmodder_lappythis is annoying as women
07:16.34xbmodder_lappys/is/is as/
07:16.42xbmodder_lappyNetworking with Xen
07:19.51xbmodder_lappyHow do I make a "virtual" ethernet card? I don't want to use my real one because it is upto something intelligent.
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07:35.38amcnabbIs anyone else having trouble accessing Linodes right now?
07:35.54amcnabbIt looks like the network just disappeared.
07:37.14xbmodder_lappyOh, we offer a comparable solution to Linode
07:37.26xbmodder_lappyWould you like a quote?
07:37.34xbmodder_lappyhehe
07:38.25xbmodder_lappyWould you like to run Gentoo on your VPS?
07:38.28Newsomeamcnabb: Hurricane Electric has been having problems tonight
07:38.55xbmodder_lappyOur box is colo-ed in a state-of-the-art facility in San Jose, ca
07:39.17xbmodder_lappyMuch of the traffic on the internet gets routed through  San Jose, ca
07:39.17nick1251.7gb is good enough for now..
07:39.23xbmodder_lappyyeah....
07:39.35Newsomedoesn't stop someone else in the same coloc from causing problems for everyone else
07:40.40xbmodder_lappyWell, we are looking at moving into multiple data centers, but we need more clients in order to.
07:41.15amcnabbNewsome, weird.  Thanks for the info.
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07:59.26maquisweird...  my printer works?
08:55.34Hhhhhanybody here into local blogging?
09:07.19amcnabbI've figured out why MythWeather didn't work.
09:08.47amcnabbAnybody who writes code that uses HTTP/1.0 should be shot.
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12:34.25emcnabbno more slashdot
12:34.40emcnabbmust leave hotel room...
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15:18.40elg-lart Jayce^
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15:25.06xbmodder_lappy20-minutes for a kernel compile
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15:36.31gooz_classsay hello to my class #utah
15:36.51goozbachhello class
15:38.44Jayce^slacker
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16:12.16xbmodder_hey
16:12.29xbmodder_~lart xen networking
16:14.11goozbachxen networking is pimp
16:15.28xbmodder_lol
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16:20.41goozbachdrat tastic
16:20.49goozbachI'm going snowboarding saturday!!
16:20.51goozbachwoot
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16:26.50sjansenMan, it took nearly 45 minutes to get out of my parking lot this morning.
16:27.15goozbachwhy
16:27.55sjansensteep entrance, unplowed, no chains, snow tires weren't enough
16:28.10sjansen~lart goozbach and emcnabb for being in florida
16:28.17goozbachbuhahahah
16:29.27elgsjansen: don't forget me
16:29.28elg-weather
16:29.29brac16 minutes ago, on Thu Feb 16 16:13:00 UTC 2006, the wind was blowing at a speed of 5.14 meters per second (11.51 miles per hour), with gusts to 7.20 meters per second (16.11 miles per hour), from the West at KLRU. The temperature was 14 degrees Celsius (57 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1015 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 21.0%. The sky was clear.
16:31.44xbmodder_would anyone mind explainning me that lart?
16:32.13sjansen~destroy elg
16:32.15ibotno
16:32.20sjansenfine then
16:32.28xbmodder_~burn sjansen
16:32.30ibotibot pours gasoline all over sjansen, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze
16:32.30elg-insult sjansen
16:32.30bracsjansen is a wretched gob of tastless red dye number-9
16:32.33sjansen~freeze elg
16:32.36xbmodder_~compile sjansen
16:32.57sjansen~toast elg
16:32.58ibotACTION stakes elg out in the desert sun to dry
16:33.14elg:)
16:33.17elgironic
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16:39.17sjansenHuh, ksl is saying the accident yesterday was 40-45 cars.
16:39.43xbmodder_I want to buy 1000 refrigeraters according to my history teacher...
16:39.59sjansenhttp://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=164058
16:40.01brac[ksl.com - Utah's Online Source for Local News & Information Snowstorm, Wrecks Make a Mess of I-15 North]
16:40.11elgwill you use them to dos your circuit breaker?
16:43.44sjansenA little boy died because he wasn't in a car seat or seat belt. Most of the accidents were caused by driving too fast and tail gating.
16:45.30Jayce^sjansen, ~500 accidents yesterday in SL, Davis, and Weber counters alone
16:46.15elgvontrapp got rearended two days ago, I hear
16:46.22elgtotaled his poor little festiva
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16:47.33xbmodder_Jayce^: :-(
16:50.21sjansenhttp://www.windley.com/archives/2006/02/opem_telecom_bo.shtml
16:54.46xbmodder_Is that your blog?
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17:03.34Jayce^hehe... sjansen == Phil Windley   :-p
17:05.14sjansenWe're both egotistical know-it-alls? Probably... but he's getting paid better for it.
17:06.17findlaythat doesn't include when I was having fun last night and slammed my right front wheel nearly flat on into the curb
17:08.59elganyone any good at R?
17:20.26jsmithsjansen: Oooh... that just rocks!
17:20.34sjansenFrankly, I find it scary. I think it's bad precedent for wealthy competitors to buy F/OSS projects.
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17:20.55sjansenI'd feel differently if it were IBM. Oracle just doesn't have any street cred with me.
17:20.59jsmithThey don't have to buy out MySQL... they've already got InnoDB and SleepCat...
17:21.54sjansenI wouldn't be surprised to see them try to rig the market then EOL MySQL. Sure, you'd still have the source but alot of damage could be done by cutting loose developers.
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17:23.18sjansenI wouldn't be surprised if the SleepyCat purchase accelerates the shift to SQLite.
17:23.52jsmithStill... what table format is MySQL gonna move to now?  They certainly aren't gonna stick with InnoDB long term...
17:24.56Jayce^jsmith, why not, GPL, at least the current tree...  worst case, they fork
17:25.52sjansenYes, but what about licensed non-GPL?
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17:27.56jsmithJayce^: Because of their commercial (non-GPL) customers, and from what I've heard, they don't really have that many people that understand the internals of the InnoDB tables that well.
17:31.55mrpull-ok perl/rt geeks.  this ticket query is coming up with zero tickets and I know it shouldn't.
17:31.57mrpull-<PROTECTED>
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17:33.03mrpull-any suggestions?
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17:37.14sjansenmrpull-: that's it, nothing else?
17:37.19mrpull-yup
17:37.33mrpull-i swear that has worked in the past
17:38.24jsmithmrpull-: What happens if you try a different date format, like Created < '2006-02-11'
17:38.34jsmithmrpull-: Or with just one of the clauses
17:41.04mrpull-goldstar for jsmith!
17:41.33mrpull-2006-02-11 format is working (despite the docs saying mm-dd-yyyy should work)
17:41.56mrpull-http://search.cpan.org/dist/Time-modules/lib/Time/ParseDate.pm
17:42.49jsmithWoo hoo!  That's my second gold star today!
17:43.03jsmith~gold star
17:43.06sjansenPlaying with our RT install, '11 Feb 2006' also works. I'd recommend that because it's readable and non-ambiguous.
17:43.33jsmithsjansen: But where's the fun in non-ambiguity?
17:43.48jsmithsjansen: C'mon... that's what keeps people like you and me in business!
17:44.21jsmithC'mon... where would O'Reilly be if Sendmail hadn't been so awful to configure?
17:44.26mrpull-sjansen:  does mm/dd/yyyy work for you?
17:45.01mrpull-hey... i bought the RT essentials book (even though the wiki is more up to date and more complete)
17:45.29jsmithYeah, the O'Reilly RT book leaves much to be desired.
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17:48.19jsmithmrpull-: Yeah, I might know where you can get one...
17:49.36mrpull-jsmith:  do you get more royalties if people buy it one place instead of another?
17:55.26sjansenmrpull-: it works with our rt install, yes (but I really don't like it)
17:56.08jsmithmrpull-: Nope... it's all the same for me.
17:58.13mrpull-sjansen:  screwy.  I tend to use yyyy-mm-dd personally, but this is report is for a non-techie so I was using the date format he'd probably use.
18:00.13mrpull-plus the docs lied and said I could use both anyway.
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18:07.55sjansenThe world would be a better place if everyone just agreed to use DD Mon YYYY.
18:08.22jsmithsjansen: OK, I give... you're absolutely right.
18:08.25mrpull-sjansen:  i like the sortability of yyyymmddhhmmss
18:09.01jsmithmrpull-: But what about the Europeans who like yyyyddmm
18:09.14mrpull-jsmith:  punch them in the face ;-)
18:09.18sjansenmrpull-: internally, that format does make sense
18:09.32sjansenI just wouldn't show it to users.
18:10.10mrpull-i thought Time::ParseDate was pretty cool until it failed me.  It is still cool I suppose
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18:11.15sjansenIt is very cool. The whole Time:: rocks hard core. It's hard to find better for any other language.
18:11.25sjansen(Believe you me, I've tried.)
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18:48.37mrpull-http://www.pcmag.com/print_article2/0,1217,a=171069,00.asp
18:48.39brac[Column from PC Magazine: Will Apple Adopt Windows?]
18:48.45mrpull-what in the world is he thinking?
18:48.54emcnabbI thought the same thing
18:49.22mrpull-emcnabb:  you think dvorak is a goofball, or thinking applie with switch?
18:50.23emcnabbhe's a goofball, at least here
18:51.17mrpull-i guess if he makes a million predictions 2 or 3 are bound to be right
18:51.23mrpull-this one is silly
18:55.25elgso this office has some kind of a sun terminal, but all I get is a green gecko mouse pointer on the screen
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19:18.15nick125-treohey
19:20.59goozbachhttp://www11.ocn.ne.jp/~origami/shasin/gab3/gab3.htm
19:21.00brac[ガブリエル(第三作）]
19:21.48goozbachfor those without unicode support and a knolege of whichever lang that is: Archangel Gabirel origami
19:28.05QBFreakwow
19:30.06goozbachthat dude can fold!
19:30.47maquiscool!
19:31.25maquishttp://www11.ocn.ne.jp/~origami/phototop.htm
19:31.26brac[作品目次]
19:43.59tensaimaquis: I didn't know you spoke japanese and did origami. impressive.
19:44.08maquishaha
19:44.09maquisi wish
19:44.35maquisweirdness?
19:44.46maquisi just noticed something i hadn't noticed before
19:45.06maquisif i have a block comment around a section, and i use dd on the opening piece to it, it removes the whole block-comment
19:45.11maquisi'd never seen that before
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19:58.22findlaysomebody say something
19:59.01QBFreakno!
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20:39.07drewbonoouch
20:39.19drewbonowhat's up with that, ibot?
20:39.29drewbonoibot, say sorry
20:39.31ibotsorry
20:39.35drewbonoThat's better.
20:39.36drewbono:-)
20:39.46QBFreaksorry he got caught I bet :)
20:39.57drewbonoProbably.
20:40.12sjansen~fart elg
20:40.14ibotACTION farts in elg's general direction
20:40.24elg~whaleslap sjansen
20:40.25ibotI'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap sjansen over the head with it.....
20:40.28sjansen~tart elg
20:40.31ibotACTION grabs her fully automatic pop tart gun and fires a hot stream at elg
20:40.44elgsweet! lunch!
20:42.30drewbonoDoes anyone have a google analytics code they wanna give me?
20:42.45Uncle_Jesseyou know, someone needs to write a "Passport" type site to serve as a central location for all social networking sites.
20:42.53maquis~no, whaleslap $foo is <action> beats $foo upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
20:42.59Uncle_Jesseenter your name, friends, etc. at one place, and it updates all the others
20:43.12maquis~whaleslap sjansen
20:43.13ibotI'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap sjansen over the head with it.....
20:43.14elgdrewbono: no but I have some gmail invites
20:43.22Uncle_JesseThat way I don't have to re-find all my friends on every social networking site I belong to
20:43.26elgibot, the indirectness spoils it
20:43.32maquisibot: no whaleslap $foo is <action> beats $foo upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
20:43.34ibotokay, maquis
20:43.34elgyou're such a sap
20:43.38maquis~whaleslap sjansen
20:43.39ibotACTION beats sjansen upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
20:43.46maquisthat's better
20:43.51sjansenUncle_Jesse: Or you could just not bother with social networks.
20:44.07Uncle_Jessesjansen: I like to see how many people actually like me ;-)
20:44.10elgirc excepting of course
20:45.34elgi've seen myspace pages, and they would make 1995 websites blush
20:45.38elgthey're that ugly
20:45.45Uncle_Jesselol
20:45.49Uncle_Jesseomg
20:45.54Uncle_Jesserotfl
20:45.57QBFreakyeah, someone tried to use one of my pictures as a background there one, failed so misribly it was funny
20:46.01QBFreakerr once
20:46.28elgpay forever
20:46.41QBFreaktook the google images result URL, the one that puts my page in a frame, and stripped the google stuff off the front end, but because of all the other stuff in the URL my server had no clue what to do with it
20:47.10maquismy roommates sit around and read myspace pages aloud for large portions of the day
20:47.23QBFreakthat is....sad
20:47.41maquisyup
20:47.48QBFreakI have an account there but for the sole purpose of reading locked entries in other friend's blogs
20:47.59leviHumanity, as a whole, is pretty sad.  It's no surprise that so many individuals are, too.
20:48.26maquisi was on my way out to the kitchen to make dinner...  on my way out, i realized that they were reading a list of sexual fantasies that somebody had posted on myspace...  i decided that dinner could wait a while
20:48.54Jayce^that good 'eh? decided to stick around?
20:48.57Jayce^:-p
20:49.09leviHeh, nice. :P
20:49.16maquiserm...  more like... i went back to my room, closed the door, and turned up the music
20:49.28Jayce^riiiight </kronk>
20:49.37QBFreakkronk is the best
20:51.05QBFreakanyone know if Kronk's New Groove was any good?
20:51.28Jayce^haven't seen it
20:51.48Jayce^lesse, RyanE is a dad too, maybe he knows
20:52.19dataw0lfit was decent
20:52.23dataw0lf>_>
20:52.24dataw0lf<_<
20:52.26dataw0lfI'm not a dad
20:52.27dataw0lf:\
20:55.28QBFreakIRC does a good job of making sure I don't get much done, maybe it could work for you
20:57.41QBFreakwhats another term for 'job opportunities'? I'd like to use the word opportunity earlier in the sentance and it doesn't seem right to use it twice
20:58.28dataw0lfposition, possibility
20:59.18QBFreakperfect, thanks
20:59.32dataw0lfyou're welcome.
21:02.43dataw0lfhey, I have a myspace account.
21:02.56dataw0lfthat's probably the most embarrassing thing I can admit to.
21:03.53QBFreakheh
21:11.10findlay~lart ADD
21:11.52dataw0lfthe 1st edition was terrible, but the 2nd edition was ok.
21:12.02dataw0lf:-)
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21:15.23smallfoot-utah sucks
21:15.35smallfoot-all you people from this channel are from Mormons Saints?
21:15.44tene???
21:15.48smallfoot-yeh
21:15.53smallfoot-all people from Utah are Mormons Saints?
21:15.57findlayyeah, those mormons, they're so wierd
21:16.02smallfoot-yeh
21:16.06smallfoot-you from Utah
21:16.22elgfunny how that works. Just like how all people from finland wear elf costumes
21:16.25findlayI heard they eat ramen only on the second tuesday of the month
21:16.35xbmodder_hey
21:16.44smallfoot-damn
21:16.47smallfoot-hail ramen
21:16.49elgToday's thursday. They eat green jello on Thursday
21:16.56smallfoot-really
21:17.03smallfoot-isnt all people in utah morons?
21:17.05smallfoot-mormons*
21:17.08smallfoot-sory typo
21:17.16elgoh yeah, about the green jello
21:17.19smallfoot-and dont Utah have laws that ban violent games?
21:17.23Jayce^no, they're all utahns
21:17.28smallfoot-anyone of you seen movie Orgazmo?
21:17.37findlayif you play tab choir music backwards, you get jello recipies
21:18.16dataw0lfsmallfoot-: I have.
21:18.21elgwhat's funny though are those people from amsterdam
21:18.34dataw0lfsmallfoot-: If you're somehow trying to make a point, however, you're doing the exact opposite of what is intended.
21:18.40elgyou know, I hear they eat tulips on fridays
21:18.54findlayno way, the Concertgebow is one of the best orchestras out there
21:19.18smallfoot-dataw0lf, its cool movie, its about utah :D
21:19.21elgand those scandinavians... always going on about large hooved animals
21:19.37Jayce^elg, my cousin shot a moose once
21:19.37smallfoot-elg is scandianvian animals lol
21:19.43dataw0lfsmallfoot-: Uh, yeah, I've seen it.  
21:19.44smallfoot-elg in swe is moose
21:19.59Jayce^smallfoot-, elg is *quite* aware.. hence the joke
21:19.59smallfoot-how many ppl in utah are mormons?
21:20.04smallfoot-oh okie
21:20.05smallfoot-cool
21:20.05smallfoot-lol
21:20.29leviAll of them, of course.  As soon as you enter Utah, you become a Mormon.
21:20.33elgsmallfoot-: probably a lower percent than there are catholics in new mexico.
21:20.46findlaylevi: right and once you leave, you're no longer a mormon
21:20.47dataw0lfelg: Oh, c'mon now.
21:20.49leviThey issue you a certificate at the border.
21:20.50elgor protestants in someplace protestant
21:20.57dataw0lfonce you leave SLC it's basically over 90% Mormons.
21:21.07elgdataw0lf: yeah, and your point is?
21:21.11elghave you been to new mexico?
21:21.15dataw0lfelg: Yes, I have.
21:21.22elglike 99% of the people here are catholic
21:21.30smallfoot-wow
21:21.32smallfoot-crazy
21:21.53dataw0lfelg: I've been to Mass in NM several times, there are more mormons in Utah (and they're much more influential) than in NM.
21:22.01dataw0lfthan catholics*
21:22.30elgok, if you say so
21:22.31findlayI heard this guy who wrote a commie OS is from Finland
21:22.33elgI don't have numbers
21:22.38elgI only grew up in new mexico
21:23.37dataw0lfelg: http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#Number1
21:23.39brac[Largest Religious Groups in the USA]
21:23.47dataw0lfif you look at the Catholic numbers, they go from highest to lowest in states.
21:24.00smallfoot-bye
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21:24.03dataw0lfUtah Mormons are in fact the highest density of any religion in any state with 71% in Utah.
21:26.06elginteresting. I guess I don't know my catholics as well as I thought
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21:27.13elgunfortunately 71% was too boring for smallfoot
21:27.24dataw0lfapparently.
21:28.45dataw0lfI just knew about the Catholics because I'm from Illinois which has around 40% Catholics or so and was often stated in the Sun as one of the largest concentrations of Catholics per state in the U.S.
21:40.19goozbachfun trollbait
21:40.31goozbachbut didn't bet on being out trolled
21:40.46findlaygoozbach: too bad you missed it
21:41.36maquistoo bad... i missed it too...
21:42.04goozbachdrat
21:42.47lars-ut-urls 10
21:42.48brac[2006/02/16 14:23:38] <dataw0lf> http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#Number1
21:42.48brac[2006/02/16 12:31:26] <maquis> http://www11.ocn.ne.jp/~origami/phototop.htm
21:42.48brac[2006/02/16 12:20:59] <goozbach> http://www11.ocn.ne.jp/~origami/shasin/gab3/gab3.htm
21:42.48brac[2006/02/16 11:48:39] <mrpull-> http://www.pcmag.com/print_article2/0,1217,a=171069,00.asp
21:42.50brac[2006/02/16 10:41:57] <mrpull-> http://search.cpan.org/dist/Time-modules/lib/Time/ParseDate.pm
21:42.50brac[2006/02/16 09:50:21] <sjansen> http://www.windley.com/archives/2006/02/opem_telecom_bo.shtml
21:42.50brac[2006/02/16 09:40:00] <sjansen> http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=164058
21:42.52brac[2006/02/15 23:55:42] <xbmodder_lappy> http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/2005.1-r1/stages/x86/stage3-x86-2005.1-r1.tar.bz2
21:42.55brac[2006/02/15 20:02:38] <maquis> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060215-6190.html
21:42.57brac[2006/02/15 17:39:13] <hans> http://lwn.net/Articles/162894/
21:47.00mheathdataw0lf, you around still?
21:51.21dataw0lfmheath: yes.
21:52.49mheathdataw0lf, Mind if I PM you?
21:53.16leviMmm, Mars, the Bringer of War.
21:54.03mheath~lart GCJ browser plugin
21:54.06findlaylevi: are you trying to bait me again (-:
21:54.16levifindlay: Heh.
21:54.32_dave_-HUP?? What a woosy way to kill something.
21:54.40levifindlay: It's just what I'm listening to.
21:55.37mheathdoes killall take -HUP anyway?
21:55.44mheathI thought killall was option list...hmmm.
21:55.53mheath*option less
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21:56.08_dave_yup
21:56.20_dave_man killall: Signals can be specified either by name (e.g. -HUP) or by number  (e.g.
21:56.20_dave_<PROTECTED>
21:56.40_dave_I prefer killall -9
21:56.43dataw0lfmheath: regarding what?
21:57.26mheathdataw0lf, a few questions about your military service. I'm kinda thinking about Army, and I was wondering if I could get some input from you. I'll make it brief.
21:58.54dataw0lfgo ahead
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22:03.00dataw0lfgoozbach: did I give the impression that I was trolling?  I'm sorry if I did.
22:04.10findlaylevi: my favorite is Mercury
22:04.28leviMercury just started.
22:04.42findlayUranus is good too
22:06.35goozbachdataw0lf: no, the person
22:06.47goozbachcame in looking to troll
22:07.25dataw0lfgoozbach: yea, I was just confused about the out trolled comment.
22:07.41maquis~buckybot dataw0lf
22:07.43ibotdataw0lf: you're a stupid idiot, and I can tell you that all I want, but if you say anything mean to me, I'll start crying and insulting everything I can, because you're discriminating against me!
22:07.44Jayce^dataw0lf, I figured it was because everybody was playing with her
22:08.03goozbachI was just commenting on the fact that he/she gave up pretty easily when others started with the crazy "motab backwards is jello" stuff
22:08.18dataw0lfoh
22:08.28goozbachthat's one of the best ways to deal with a troll in my opinion
22:08.31dataw0lfdefinitely
22:08.43findlayheh, that one was mine.  I'm famous now
22:08.52goozbachfindlay: congrats
22:09.24goozbachis there an irc channel for the Windows admins anonymous
22:09.25goozbach?
22:10.29findlaythere is now.  #waa
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22:12.48Jayce^isnt' it supposed to be UTWaa
22:13.44dataw0lfthe mailing list is just WAA
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22:14.17tensaimaybe it's UT::WAA
22:14.31nick125-treomm..i wonder how hard it is to unlock a pap2
22:18.02nick125-treoany ideas?
22:24.29maquis~buckybot unum
22:24.30ibotunum: you're a stupid idiot, and I can tell you that all I want, but if you say anything mean to me, I'll start crying and insulting everything I can, because you're discriminating against me!
22:24.31dataw0lfhey, there's another solution for trolls.
22:24.36dataw0lfphysical violence!
22:25.00unumibot: want to go on a date.  You seem like my type. :)
22:25.24unums/date./date?
22:26.41dataw0lfs/\./?
22:28.54brando1.. how many people usually show up for UUG?
22:32.39maquisbrando1: hoping for a lot tonight... should have a good turnout..  attendance ranges widely based on topic
22:32.47tenewhat's the topic?
22:32.55maquistene: mythtv!
22:33.00teneyay!
22:33.04tenemoose!
22:33.31teneit probably did.
22:33.43maquisok
22:33.52goozbachgood TEA!
22:34.04maquis~steal goozbach's tea
22:34.06ibotACTION grabs goozbach's tea and gives it to maquis
22:34.29maquiszsh: bus error (core dumped)  learner
22:34.43goozbach<PROTECTED>
22:34.46goozbachnow I won't sleep
22:34.59maquis~sleep goozbach
22:35.01ibotACTION sends goozbach to bed without supper
22:40.51brando1maquis: good turnout being 20, 50, 200?
22:45.08RyanEnick125-treo: not hard to unlock pap2.
22:45.57dataw0lfRyanE: he left
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22:46.31RyanEdataw0lf: dang.  I missed it.  I even lookd back a bit.  :)
22:46.39RyanEthat's what I get for actually going and doing work...
22:47.38sjansen~moose tene
22:47.48tene~moose sjansen
22:48.02dataw0lfRyanE: just remember <tab> :)
22:48.37sjansen~tab dataw0lf
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22:49.12dataw0lf~punch sjansen
22:49.13ibotACTION hits sjansen like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist
22:52.02maquisbrando1: we're hoping for > 50... closer to around 100
22:52.16maquiswho knows what we'll get, though :)
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22:56.17tenetop-like utilities for showing network useage?
22:56.44goozbachntop
22:56.55findlayatop
22:57.11tensaiiftop
22:57.17teneThanks.
22:57.26findlay(:
22:58.06tensainload
23:00.15sjansen~pingflood tensai
23:00.29tensai~smurfattack sjansen
23:01.24findlaywow Apple is going to dump X for Windows.  Yeah right
23:01.45tensaiapple doesn't even use X. who's your source?
23:02.32findlayX as in OSX
23:02.51findlayhttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1923151,00.asp
23:03.00tensaiah. for us old timers, X means X11
23:03.15findlaytensai: yeah, I was lazy
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23:13.10leviHmm, Dvorak, how'd I guess?
23:13.19leviHe's turned into a humor columnist. :)
23:13.20maquis??
23:13.23maquisoh
23:13.46mheathdataw0lf, oh, sorry. For some reason I didn't get identified with nickserv, so my messages were blocked. Just noticed.
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23:19.39findlayof course you can't square the circle.  A circle has a transcendental area, duh.
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23:30.08sjansen$12 for tacos?!
23:31.19sjansenhttp://www.phil801.com/devutah/index.php?title=2006_February_Event
23:31.21bonez39gotta be one very compelling taco for that much
23:32.24Uncle_Jesseall right all you mormons - time to start defending your faith: http://digg.com/science/DNA_tests_disprove_Mormon_scripture
23:32.44Uncle_Jesseit's one of the top stories on digg right now
23:33.18nick125this is gonna be fun
23:33.32maquisit all depends on the tests...  some of them defend it, others disprove it... and i don't trust any of them
23:35.21maquisanyway.. we don't claim that the descendents of lehi were the *only* ones to come to the continent... just some of them..
23:36.04nick125unlocking a pap2 is going to be fun
23:37.24Uncle_JesseI just posted this link - explains it all: http://www.lds.org/newsroom/mistakes/0,15331,3885-1-18078,00.html
23:37.26brac[DNA and the Book of Mormon]
23:37.37Uncle_Jessetake it from the source before you bash it
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23:41.24dilviehi
23:43.28Uncle_Jessehaha - we're really getting the other side of that discussion going :-)
23:43.40Uncle_Jesse"I'm a mormon and this thread blows"...
23:43.42Uncle_Jesselike that one
23:45.58Uncle_Jesselol - http://www.digg.com/links/DNA_tests_don_t_disprove_Mormon_Scripture
23:46.02Uncle_Jessedigg++
23:47.10Uncle_JesseI am so tempted to forward that one to all my family and friends ;-)  Knowing the Mormon channels it would go to, it could set records for digg
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