| 00:00.15 | xbmodder_lappy | Me and nick125 are starting a new business VPSes with 128MB, 2 IP addresses, a 1mbit unmetered port @ 25 bucks or 100GB of b/w included, |
| 00:00.24 | xbmodder_lappy | All this at 30 bucks |
| 00:00.28 | nick125 | LOL |
| 00:00.52 | xbmodder_lappy | or with the unmetered its 55 bucks. for every extra mbit of bandwidth its 30 dollars. |
| 00:04.15 | mrpull- | xbmodder_lappy: are you doing a 95% billing? |
| 00:06.23 | mrpull- | NM it is quitting time |
| 00:07.10 | *** join/#utah bigdog_ut (n=bigdog@207.135.132.13) |
| 00:11.10 | lars-ut | http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ |
| 00:11.10 | brac | [Apple - Mac OS X Downloads] |
| 00:11.17 | lars-ut | check out the feautured download |
| 00:12.02 | jsmith | lars-ut: Rock on! |
| 00:12.21 | lars-ut | :D |
| 00:13.02 | findlay | lars-ut++ |
| 00:13.18 | findlay | ~karma lars-ut |
| 00:13.18 | ibot | lars-ut has neutral karma |
| 00:13.21 | findlay | lars-ut++ |
| 00:13.23 | jsmith | ~lars-ut++ |
| 00:13.51 | lars-ut | I have no idea how that happened, but I'm quite happy about it. |
| 00:14.10 | findlay | ~lars-ut+= 1024 |
| 00:14.16 | lars-ut | lol |
| 00:14.33 | lars-ut | ~karma lars-ut |
| 00:14.33 | ibot | lars-ut has karma of 1 |
| 00:14.39 | xbmodder_lappy | ~karma xbmodder_lappy |
| 00:14.39 | ibot | xbmodder_lappy has neutral karma |
| 00:14.59 | tene | ~karma tene |
| 00:14.59 | ibot | tene has karma of -10 |
| 00:15.02 | tene | :( |
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| 00:30.55 | xbmodder_lappy | nick125, you aren't available |
| 00:31.42 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: wtf..i cant find the phone to my voip line |
| 00:32.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ~karma ScytheBlade1 |
| 00:32.32 | ibot | scytheblade1 has neutral karma |
| 00:33.02 | nick125 | i think im about to go over on my minutes on my cell |
| 00:33.50 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 00:34.32 | nick125 | im about to go and say f*ck it and upgrade to 2000 minutes |
| 00:34.52 | nick125 | if i go over on that, somethings very wrong |
| 00:37.26 | nick125 | only $20 more a month to get 2000 minutes |
| 00:37.36 | xbmodder_lappy | nick125, language.. |
| 00:37.41 | xbmodder_lappy | pickup your phone |
| 00:38.36 | nick125 | i dont know where the damn thing is! |
| 00:39.34 | xbmodder_lappy | find it |
| 00:39.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Call it! |
| 00:39.55 | nick125 | its dead..thats the problem |
| 00:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 00:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | nice |
| 00:41.03 | xbmodder_lappy | I am bored |
| 00:41.09 | xbmodder_lappy | anyone wanna volunteer their number? |
| 00:41.31 | xbmodder_lappy | silence! |
| 00:41.40 | xbmodder_lappy | Eh, |
| 00:42.20 | nick125 | weee |
| 00:42.38 | nick125 | 1000 more minutes :D |
| 00:42.39 | ScytheBlade1 | 1-801-911-5383 |
| 00:42.54 | ScytheBlade1 | hint: don't actually call that |
| 00:42.57 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 00:43.00 | xbmodder_lappy | I see the 911 |
| 00:45.45 | xbmodder_lappy | why didn't dell have a valentine's day sale on their servers? |
| 00:46.12 | nick125 | LOL |
| 00:46.34 | nick125 | wewt |
| 00:47.36 | nick125 | w00t |
| 00:48.58 | xbmodder_lappy | w00t |
| 00:49.11 | nick125 | they are gonna start the plan today right now |
| 00:49.52 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: ok call back now :p |
| 00:50.12 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: can i write my huge cell phone bill off as a business expense? :) |
| 00:51.58 | xbmodder_lappy | no.... |
| 00:52.05 | nick125 | lol... |
| 00:52.14 | xbmodder_lappy | Get off your arse and get us a customer |
| 00:52.37 | nick125 | i got the hard job! i gotta set up that hard-as-hell to setup thing called Xen |
| 00:53.33 | nick125 | plus i dont have a clue where to start |
| 00:54.27 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: call my cell |
| 00:54.37 | xbmodder_lappy | can't |
| 00:54.42 | xbmodder_lappy | Oh, screw you |
| 00:54.49 | xbmodder_lappy | I'll setup Xen |
| 00:54.52 | xbmodder_lappy | And it'll work |
| 00:54.53 | xbmodder_lappy | wel.. |
| 00:54.55 | xbmodder_lappy | welll |
| 00:54.57 | xbmodder_lappy | well |
| 00:55.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone here attending Westminster or know someone who is? |
| 00:55.40 | nick125 | well, i dont have a problem setting it up, im just saying, i have alot on my plate, and getting customers ontop of that, i dont have a clue in hell where to start looking.. |
| 00:56.44 | xbmodder_lappy | like what on your "plate" |
| 00:56.53 | xbmodder_lappy | who here needs money? |
| 00:57.34 | xbmodder_lappy | Linux served 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 #7 SMP Sat Feb 11 00:43:15 PST 2006 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) MP 2400+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux |
| 00:57.46 | xbmodder_lappy | Linux lappy 2.6.13-suspend2-r4 #3 Mon Jan 23 07:25:29 PST 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| 00:57.51 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: i have to set up xen..im saying, i cant find customers, i dont know where to start..:/ |
| 00:58.11 | xbmodder_lappy | == Xen has been package.mask'd recently due to security flaws in 2.6.11 and 2.6.12 kernels - use at your own risk == |
| 00:58.12 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 00:58.14 | nick125 | lol |
| 00:58.18 | nick125 | yeah |
| 00:58.49 | findlay | ScytheBlade1: why? I know someone who went there 2 years ago (: |
| 00:58.58 | xbmodder_lappy | Actual6.2 Kbps3.7 Pkts/sec |
| 00:58.58 | xbmodder_lappy | Last Minute4.6 Kbps2.9 Pkts/sec |
| 00:58.58 | xbmodder_lappy | Last 5 Minutes21.5 Kbps6.3 Pkts/sec |
| 00:58.58 | xbmodder_lappy | Peak700.5 Kbps99.8 Pkts/sec |
| 00:58.58 | xbmodder_lappy | Average55.6 Kbps16.2 Pkts/sec |
| 00:59.27 | ScytheBlade1 | findlay, I'm looking into it for a CS degree. Class size of 14 as the biggest is sooo very tempting, and I'm going down for a campus visit tomorrow, but I'm just curious as a whole. |
| 01:00.00 | findlay | ScytheBlade1: UU probably has the best CS program in the state |
| 01:00.11 | findlay | s/probably// |
| 01:00.17 | ScytheBlade1 | findlay, heh |
| 01:00.32 | ScytheBlade1 | findlay, I'd imagine so. However, class size of *14*.. |
| 01:00.53 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 01:00.55 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: mm...doesnt look like too much killage to me :/ |
| 01:01.02 | nick125 | except the peak... |
| 01:01.07 | xbmodder_lappy | nick125, ... look at those peaks |
| 01:01.48 | nick125 | 700kbps is pretty..high |
| 01:02.47 | xbmodder_lappy | err |
| 01:02.49 | xbmodder_lappy | Yeah! |
| 01:03.19 | xbmodder_lappy | According to this I have a constant 10 Kb/s flow |
| 01:10.16 | nick125 | mm |
| 01:10.17 | xbmodder_lappy | what version of Xen are we using? |
| 01:10.23 | nick125 | 3.0.1 |
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| 01:14.29 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.01 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:16.20 | nick125 | lol |
| 01:16.22 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:17.25 | nick125 | how about lars-ut2 joins and asks? would that be considered spamming? |
| 01:17.34 | lars-ut | lol - technically no. |
| 01:17.48 | lars-ut | maybe it's time to register a new nick... |
| 01:18.12 | nick125 | ~steal maquis' keyboard |
| 01:18.14 | ibot | ACTION grabs maquis' keyboard and gives it to nick125 |
| 01:18.19 | nick125 | hehe |
| 01:18.28 | nick125 | :) |
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| 01:24.28 | nick125 | lars-ut: why are you smiling like that? |
| 01:25.18 | lars-ut | nick125: because someone from #utah joined the ##mac channel... |
| 01:25.32 | nick125 | like who...wait i think i know who |
| 01:26.32 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 01:26.39 | xbmodder_lappy | ~lart nick125 |
| 01:26.41 | xbmodder_lappy | ~lart findlay |
| 01:26.55 | nick125 | LOL |
| 01:27.05 | lars-ut | lol |
| 01:27.06 | lars-ut | crap |
| 01:27.20 | nick125 | what? |
| 01:28.29 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: why you crying? |
| 01:28.44 | lars-ut | xbmodder_lappy++ |
| 01:28.52 | lars-ut | ~karma xbmodder_lappy |
| 01:28.52 | ibot | xbmodder_lappy has neutral karma |
| 01:28.59 | lars-ut | ~xbmodder_lappy++ |
| 01:29.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Problem solved :) |
| 01:29.58 | lars-ut | ~lart lars-ut for not switching irc channels |
| 01:29.58 | nick125 | lol |
| 01:30.28 | nick125 | what did you do? |
| 01:30.47 | lars-ut | tried to increase xbmodder_lappy's karma while still in ##mac |
| 01:31.02 | nick125 | LOL |
| 01:31.09 | nick125 | what else happened ? :p |
| 01:31.53 | lars-ut | <PSOAddict> And something tells me that it's at the exact point it's always been at... |
| 01:31.53 | lars-ut | <lars-ut> xbmodder_lappy++ |
| 01:31.53 | lars-ut | <lars-ut> ~karma xbmodder_lappy++ |
| 01:32.01 | lars-ut | <lars-ut> ~karma xbmodder_lappy |
| 01:32.01 | lars-ut | <xbmodder_lappy> :( |
| 01:32.01 | lars-ut | <Daeken> lars-ut: ... what are you doing? |
| 01:32.11 | lars-ut | * iMorpheus has joined ##mac |
| 01:32.11 | lars-ut | <lars-ut> laughing |
| 01:32.11 | lars-ut | * Daeken shakes his head and goes back to his code |
| 01:32.18 | nick125 | LOL |
| 01:32.23 | lars-ut | that was pretty much it. |
| 01:33.27 | lars-ut | ~define shill |
| 01:33.43 | lars-ut | A house employee who bets money and pretends to be a player to attract customers. Shills typically follow the same rules as the dealer which makes them somewhat easy to spot (ie, they don't Double Down or Split). |
| 01:36.21 | nick125 | what a good idea! |
| 01:37.04 | lars-ut | I feel much better now. |
| 01:37.17 | xbmodder_lappy | no, I need to install linux on it |
| 01:37.19 | nick125 | *smash* |
| 01:37.23 | xbmodder_lappy | then we can do that... |
| 01:37.48 | nick125 | *smash* *smash* *smash* |
| 01:39.55 | maquis | lars-ut: good idea... since you're already dead, you can actually try to win |
| 01:40.19 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:40.53 | maquis | *smash* *smash* *smash* |
| 01:41.04 | maquis | *splash* <-- EEW!!!! |
| 01:41.15 | lars-ut | lol |
| 01:41.24 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're going to steal a mac |
| 01:41.26 | ScytheBlade1 | SELL IT |
| 01:41.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't destroy it :P |
| 01:41.32 | nick125 | ~steal maquis' chair, hammer, computer, keyboard, mouse, and telephone |
| 01:41.34 | ibot | ACTION grabs maquis' chair, hammer, computer, keyboard, mouse, and telephone and gives it to nick125 |
| 01:41.39 | findlay | can you keep it down in here?? I'm trying to listen to Bach |
| 01:41.41 | ScytheBlade1 | ~steal nick125 |
| 01:41.42 | ibot | ACTION grabs nick125 and gives it to scytheblade1 |
| 01:41.46 | ScytheBlade1 | :P |
| 01:41.58 | nick125 | ~steal ScytheBlade1's internet connection |
| 01:41.59 | ibot | ACTION grabs ScytheBlade1's internet connection and gives it to nick125 |
| 01:42.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Cheater |
| 01:42.05 | nick125 | -*~. |
| 01:42.20 | nick125 | hahahah |
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| 01:43.02 | findlay | there! How do you like that? |
| 01:43.08 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.10 | xbmodder_lappy | thanks |
| 01:43.11 | maquis | ~steal bach |
| 01:43.12 | ibot | ACTION grabs bach and gives it to maquis |
| 01:43.30 | herlo | ~lart bach |
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| 01:44.01 | nick125 | what the... |
| 01:44.08 | nick125 | ScytheBlade1: how did you get your connection back? o.0 |
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| 01:44.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm amazing like that |
| 01:44.44 | nick125 | ~steal ScytheBlade1's magic |
| 01:44.45 | ibot | ACTION grabs ScytheBlade1's magic and gives it to nick125 |
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| 01:45.25 | ScytheBlade1 | kleptomaniac. |
| 01:45.32 | xbmodder_lappy | heheh |
| 01:45.57 | xbmodder_lappy | ~seen leilas |
| 01:46.02 | ibot | leilas <n=1802511e@yossman.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 7d 2h 45m 45s ago, saying: 'ok i guess '. |
| 01:46.14 | xbmodder_lappy | :( |
| 01:46.18 | ScytheBlade1 | all right all |
| 01:46.21 | ScytheBlade1 | bbl |
| 01:46.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ~steal nick125 |
| 01:46.29 | ibot | ACTION grabs nick125 and gives it to scytheblade1 |
| 01:47.00 | *** join/#utah nick125_lappy (n=nick@dsl093-220-003.abq1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 01:47.04 | nick125_lappy | WTF |
| 01:47.10 | nick125_lappy | ok... |
| 01:47.17 | nick125_lappy | somethings offically screwed up |
| 01:48.06 | nick125 | damn i got alot of stuff here |
| 01:48.06 | nick125 | .:Lag: 63 (??):. |
| 01:48.06 | nick125 | ... |
| 01:48.09 | xbmodder_lappy | in respone to "how are you?" |
| 01:49.18 | maquis | ~rglare |
| 01:49.28 | maquis | hmm... someone needs to implementthat |
| 01:52.57 | xbmodder_lappy | ~glare mheath |
| 01:52.59 | ibot | ACTION glares at mheath |
| 01:53.01 | xbmodder_lappy | ~action hi |
| 01:53.03 | ibot | ACTION hi |
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| 01:53.21 | xbmodder_lappy | is there a randomperson var? |
| 01:53.32 | xbmodder_lappy | !help rlart |
| 01:53.38 | xbmodder_lappy | ~help rlart |
| 01:53.42 | xbmodder_lappy | ~help lart |
| 02:13.37 | xbmodder_lappy | Do you guys find the fact that I am doing Driver's ed. is creepy and/or dangerous? |
| 02:16.40 | nick125 | i find it both |
| 02:17.04 | maquis | http://thedailywtf.com/forums/60067/ShowPost.aspx |
| 02:17.08 | maquis | i'm with nick125 on that |
| 02:17.44 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 02:19.45 | nick125 | i find it quite dangerous, and slightly creepy |
| 02:20.34 | lars-ut | for the anticlimatic Valentine's Day shill |
| 02:21.12 | xbmodder_lappy | ~define shill |
| 02:21.29 | lars-ut | A house employee who bets money and pretends to be a player to attract customers. Shills typically follow the same rules as the dealer which makes them somewhat easy to spot (ie, they don't Double Down or Split). |
| 02:22.59 | herlo | ~lart lars-ut |
| 02:25.36 | herlo | ~cook lars-ut |
| 02:25.38 | ibot | ACTION throws lars-ut in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks lars-ut on 350 for an hour |
| 02:25.59 | lars-ut | And thus, the anticlimatic Valentine's Day shill is complete. |
| 02:26.45 | *** part/#utah lars-ut (n=me@70.103.228.158) |
| 02:28.47 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.48 | nick125 | woops |
| 02:28.51 | nick125 | :D |
| 02:29.47 | herlo | ~lart nick125 |
| 02:30.55 | nick125 | ~steal his cattle prod |
| 02:30.56 | ibot | ACTION grabs his cattle prod and gives it to nick125 |
| 02:31.55 | nick125 | ~kill herlo |
| 02:31.56 | ibot | ACTION shoots a inverse fluxphoton gun at herlo |
| 02:32.02 | herlo | ~lart nick125 for being rude to my friend lars-ut |
| 02:32.22 | nick125 | lol |
| 02:34.20 | herlo | lol |
| 02:37.39 | xbmodder_lappy | ok |
| 02:37.39 | xbmodder_lappy | wtf |
| 02:37.42 | xbmodder_lappy | why is this happening to me? |
| 02:38.22 | xbmodder_lappy | my DSL line is like spazzing out |
| 02:38.42 | xbmodder_lappy | asterisk=cool |
| 02:38.49 | xbmodder_lappy | stupid DSL != cool; |
| 02:42.09 | xbmodder_lappy | --- 66.92.12.130 ping statistics --- |
| 02:42.09 | xbmodder_lappy | 332 packets transmitted, 309 received, 6% packet loss, time 332369ms |
| 02:42.09 | xbmodder_lappy | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 29.763/676.286/1618.616/689.814 ms, pipe 2 |
| 02:42.14 | xbmodder_lappy | that is not acceptable |
| 02:42.26 | xbmodder_lappy | and a new line to the top of my house |
| 02:42.28 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 02:51.42 | *** join/#utah lars-ut (n=me@70.103.228.158) |
| 02:55.15 | xbmodder_lappy | :-? |
| 03:03.15 | xbmodder_lappy | I am having way to much fun |
| 03:04.51 | xbmodder_lappy | its horrible, eh? |
| 03:05.13 | lars-ut | not too bad |
| 03:05.27 | lars-ut | conferencing with 3 total |
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| 03:14.00 | herlo | skype has a 4person limit, anyone know of any good opensource alternatives...? |
| 03:14.58 | findlay | gnomemeeting, gnophone, kphone, your own asterisk based client in perl/ruby/python |
| 03:15.18 | herlo | do any of those have windows clients too? |
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| 03:15.46 | herlo | Open Source is for windows too... |
| 03:16.13 | findlay | qt works on windows and there is a kde port in the works. KDE works on cygwin, there's gtk for windows |
| 03:17.18 | herlo | findlay: okay great, but is there something that will work now? I understand how great it is for *nix, but the members of my group need it to work cross-platform and I guess I should also mention that some of them are mac folks too... |
| 03:18.23 | herlo | any other suggestions? maybe something that will work with jabber? |
| 03:18.47 | findlay | I'm saying that for GNOME or KDE apps you probably need to first install GTK or QT, respecively for them to work on windows |
| 03:19.39 | findlay | you generally can't just install a gtk or qt app on windows unless it has been custom ported to wxWindows or whatever |
| 03:20.20 | herlo | k, and that's fine for me, but I don't really see that extending to others in our group. Its gotta be cross platform, maybe even just an installer to get it to work. I mean why all the hassle? This is a big problem with things that are ported from *nix to windows |
| 03:21.39 | findlay | because windows uses a different gui library than KDE or GNOME |
| 03:22.06 | findlay | I don't really know of any solution that I know will work, though |
| 03:22.58 | levi | findlay: Qt and GTK have both been entirely ported to Windows. |
| 03:23.26 | levi | findlay: The problem is not the GUIs, it's all the other OS-level incompatibilities. |
| 03:23.46 | herlo | levi: qt and gtk is nice, but now its 2 executable instead of one |
| 03:24.04 | herlo | levi: agreed about OS issues |
| 03:24.15 | herlo | but that doesn't solve my problem necessarily |
| 03:24.46 | levi | herlo: I don't mean that you'd use both a Qt and a GTK app, just that a Qt or GTK app could conceivably run on several platforms. |
| 03:24.47 | herlo | but I do appreciate the input... |
| 03:24.56 | levi | I know GTK is being ported to OS X. |
| 03:25.00 | herlo | levi: I understand that |
| 03:27.45 | herlo | I do appreciate the thoughts, definitely stuff to consider here. |
| 03:29.45 | levi | Hmm, Oracle bought Sleepycat. |
| 03:36.14 | findlay | herlo: good luck |
| 03:36.29 | herlo | findlay: tx |
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| 03:50.52 | findlay | ~lart me |
| 04:10.37 | tensai | herlo: have you tried gizmo? |
| 04:11.10 | herlo | no, I've seen mention of it now that you say that. where can I find it? |
| 04:11.29 | findlay | http://www.gizmoproject.com/ |
| 04:11.31 | brac | [Gizmo – A free phone for your computer] |
| 04:12.00 | herlo | that might be just what I am looking for |
| 04:12.05 | herlo | tx tensai |
| 04:12.08 | herlo | and findlay |
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| 04:17.30 | findlay | Newsome: who's PJ going to send to the courthouse now? Have you delegated anyone? |
| 04:17.44 | Newsome | I volunteered you! |
| 04:18.11 | Newsome | actually, I think she's really concerned about that very question |
| 04:19.00 | findlay | Newsome: I'm willing to fill in if I can |
| 04:19.00 | Newsome | I'll still be able to get lots of stuff online, or by calling the courthouse, but not the paper-only docs |
| 04:20.00 | findlay | the only thing I would be concerned about is that I have no presence whatsoever at the courthouse, certainly not like someone who's been with the case from the beginning |
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| 04:49.34 | xbmodder_lappy | nick125, 300 bucks for the line |
| 04:50.45 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: mm |
| 04:50.56 | nick125 | we can get away with 10mbit for 40 customers |
| 04:51.55 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: we will only use 3TB a month, and a 10mbit line will give 3.1TB |
| 04:53.25 | nick125 | and a 10mbit line is only $250 not including the colo :) |
| 04:53.52 | nick125 | around $400 including the colo |
| 04:54.21 | nick125_lappy | mm |
| 04:57.51 | *** join/#utah dilvie (n=dilvie@c-67-161-253-245.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 05:00.41 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 05:00.42 | xbmodder_lappy | fun |
| 05:25.18 | xbmodder_lappy | its horrible, eh? |
| 05:46.25 | *** join/#utah amcnabb (n=amcnabb@c-24-10-236-93.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 06:04.18 | xbmodder_lappy | Anyone here know how I can learn LVM and RAID |
| 06:04.22 | xbmodder_lappy | (software RAID) |
| 06:05.01 | QBFreak | I found a useful tutorial on LVM but its bookmarked at my former place of employment |
| 06:05.48 | xbmodder_lappy | ok. |
| 06:05.53 | QBFreak | sorry :) |
| 06:05.56 | xbmodder_lappy | haha |
| 06:06.34 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: found a howto from g00g13 |
| 06:06.45 | xbmodder_lappy | Any place to find a super-employee, or is anyone here unemployed that needs a part-time job |
| 06:06.58 | xbmodder_lappy | nick125, I am gunna use my RHCE book |
| 06:07.17 | QBFreak | xbmodder: I assume you're looking for someone local? |
| 06:07.40 | nick125 | i think xbmodder wants someone free |
| 06:08.03 | nick125 | LOL |
| 06:08.09 | xbmodder_lappy | QBFreak, nope. |
| 06:08.27 | xbmodder_lappy | If you'd be willing to work on commisions plus free services... |
| 06:08.41 | nick125 | its not much work either.. |
| 06:09.19 | QBFreak | what kind fo work? |
| 06:09.39 | nick125 | where else do you see commissions? |
| 06:09.54 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 06:09.55 | QBFreak | ah yes, sales, no thanks :) |
| 06:10.21 | xbmodder_lappy | If you know anybody please feel free to pass them our e-mail addy's |
| 06:10.31 | mheath | Driving that car is -fun-! |
| 06:10.39 | QBFreak | which car is that? |
| 06:10.39 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 06:10.40 | mheath | And it has a LOT more power than my other car |
| 06:10.43 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, hey |
| 06:10.46 | QBFreak | heh |
| 06:10.48 | mheath | QBFreak, Mitsubishi Gallant |
| 06:10.52 | QBFreak | ah cool |
| 06:10.56 | mheath | Learning to drive manual |
| 06:10.57 | findlay | mheath: be xbmodder_lappy's sales rep |
| 06:11.04 | mheath | Manual is *cool*. |
| 06:11.07 | QBFreak | mheath: that is fun :) |
| 06:11.15 | xbmodder_lappy | findlay, you could say nick125's sales rep |
| 06:11.20 | mheath | I dunno. I enjoy driving manual. Its nice to have control over my engine |
| 06:11.20 | QBFreak | definitly blasted past a truck climbing the mountain |
| 06:11.25 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: whaa? |
| 06:11.28 | nick125 | why me |
| 06:11.30 | mheath | Everything from my acceleration speed, to my gas mileage, to the way it sounds :) |
| 06:11.39 | nick125 | im just the poor sysadmin |
| 06:11.40 | nick125 | :( |
| 06:11.46 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, mercedes kinda do the same thing |
| 06:11.55 | xbmodder_lappy | the virtua-manual thing. |
| 06:12.09 | mheath | ...... |
| 06:12.12 | xbmodder_lappy | I killed the room.... again... |
| 06:12.21 | mheath | xbmodder_, I'm driving an automatic. |
| 06:12.27 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: of course.. |
| 06:12.28 | xbmodder_lappy | oh |
| 06:12.30 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 06:12.36 | mheath | erm |
| 06:12.37 | QBFreak | my car accelerates quite wonderfully when I want it to, even on nasty hills |
| 06:12.38 | xbmodder_lappy | I hope my dad gets a new car... |
| 06:12.41 | mheath | That is, I'm driving a manual* |
| 06:13.06 | findlay | mheath: want a job? looking for *excitement* in your career? Just waiting to land that killer occupation with a sweet commission? Well, now's your opportunity!!2! For only a limited time xbmodder_lappy and nick125 are graciously offering ... |
| 06:13.06 | mheath | The kind of transmission you were referring to, though, xbmodder, is a 'tiptronic' transmission. Patented by Porsche. |
| 06:13.17 | xbmodder_lappy | findlay, thank you |
| 06:13.25 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, thank you :-) |
| 06:13.26 | findlay | lol |
| 06:13.29 | xbmodder_lappy | I like Porsches. |
| 06:13.36 | *** join/#utah pmcnabb (n=peter@12-208-14-28.client.insightBB.com) |
| 06:13.36 | mheath | findlay, Yes, I'm looking for excitement in my career |
| 06:13.46 | mheath | HENCE THE REASON I'm joining the USN. :) |
| 06:13.46 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, and you want to stay alive doing it? |
| 06:13.59 | findlay | (: |
| 06:14.05 | mheath | xbmodder_, when was the last time a USN QM has died?\ |
| 06:14.11 | mheath | I don't think theres been a QM death since WWII. |
| 06:14.17 | mheath | Maybe in Vietnam. |
| 06:14.48 | xbmodder_lappy | wow |
| 06:14.50 | xbmodder_lappy | :-) |
| 06:14.54 | xbmodder_lappy | thats cool |
| 06:15.11 | mheath | Heh, I like the sound of that engine too much. |
| 06:15.19 | mheath | I'm going to kill the engine, staying in such a low gear. |
| 06:15.42 | xbmodder_lappy | Its cool. |
| 06:15.45 | findlay | oh yeah, my car redlines at 6500! |
| 06:15.47 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: hey..... |
| 06:15.50 | findlay | ha |
| 06:15.54 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Software_RAID_mirror_and_LVM2_on_top_of_RAID *ahem( |
| 06:16.31 | mheath | lmao |
| 06:16.36 | mheath | When I first learned how tod rive manual... |
| 06:16.53 | mheath | My dad took me out in his 1989 Jeep Cherokee. "OH, this will be easy to learn in" |
| 06:16.57 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 06:16.59 | mheath | I must have killed that engine dozens of times. |
| 06:17.28 | mheath | And it's handling is roughly equivelent to a rock. |
| 06:17.48 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 06:18.08 | xbmodder_lappy | findlay, I stoppped |
| 06:22.02 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: so, we're gonna use RAID and LVM2? |
| 06:22.20 | mheath | Wait |
| 06:22.39 | mheath | Isn't the whole point of RAID to make complex things like LVM2 unncessary? |
| 06:22.51 | mheath | I mean, do complex filesystem-combination tasks at the hardware level |
| 06:22.52 | xbmodder_lappy | umm |
| 06:22.55 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 06:23.21 | xbmodder_lappy | backup and making filesystems small and larger is no longer a pain |
| 06:23.57 | levi | mheath: I learned to drive a stick on an '89 Wrangler. |
| 06:24.04 | mheath | levi, *shudder* |
| 06:24.14 | mheath | I didn't have much success with it until this mitsubishi |
| 06:24.34 | levi | I didn't think the Jeep was that bad. |
| 06:24.37 | mheath | I've pretty much got the hang of it, though I still have some problems starting (going into first) |
| 06:24.40 | xbmodder_lappy | and thats how RHEL does it |
| 06:25.19 | mheath | harleypig, you around? |
| 06:25.33 | mheath | Managed to kill the engine in the middle of the road |
| 06:25.46 | mheath | making my self look like a moron and hold traffic up for a few seconds at lights, etc. |
| 06:25.55 | mheath | Drive home I had no problems, though. |
| 06:26.45 | levi | It's just a matter of training your feet. |
| 06:26.58 | levi | Takes a while for everyone, no matter what you start on. |
| 06:27.00 | mheath | levi, indeed. |
| 06:27.14 | mheath | Its odd though |
| 06:27.22 | mheath | I have trouble going into first, but don't have trouble with any other gears. |
| 06:27.30 | mheath | =\ |
| 06:27.42 | levi | You mean going into first from a stop? |
| 06:27.47 | mheath | levi, yeah. |
| 06:28.15 | mheath | xbmodder_, porsche cayenne? |
| 06:28.25 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, yeah |
| 06:28.49 | mheath | Yeah, if you want to spend obscene amounts of money on an SUV with next-to-no standard features, and a not-up-to-porsche-standards engine. |
| 06:28.58 | xbmodder_lappy | my dad might trade in our Sequoia for a cayenne, One of the lexuses, or the mercedes |
| 06:29.10 | mheath | Beautiful engine. |
| 06:29.32 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy, You have too much money. |
| 06:29.33 | levi | mheath: After you get used to the clutch, try left-foot braking. :) |
| 06:29.42 | mheath | levi, Haha. |
| 06:29.55 | xbmodder_lappy | not me |
| 06:29.58 | xbmodder_lappy | my dad does :-) |
| 06:29.58 | levi | Guaranteed to be a jolting experience. |
| 06:30.15 | mheath | xbmodder_, Though my family probably still has more money (just not readily accessible), so I shouldn't be talking. |
| 06:30.26 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, maybe. |
| 06:30.37 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, in what, if I may ask? |
| 06:30.51 | mheath | xbmodder_, real estate, I guess, would be the proper term for it. |
| 06:31.06 | xbmodder_lappy | Fun. |
| 06:31.22 | xbmodder_lappy | Passive income, from the rent, right? |
| 06:31.41 | mheath | xbmodder_, No. Appreciation in value of land thats been in our family for 4 generations. |
| 06:31.52 | xbmodder_lappy | wow, that works too. |
| 06:32.05 | mheath | Lots of land, near a town that (over the last few decades) developed into a largescale ski resort city. |
| 06:32.31 | mheath | Owner of CNN has a house about a mile away from our property, Ophra Winfrey has a house near it, etc. |
| 06:32.49 | mheath | Proprety values skyrocketed as a bunch of rich people decided they'd like summer homes in that area |
| 06:32.50 | xbmodder_lappy | cool. |
| 06:33.09 | xbmodder_lappy | I don't live next to any famous people :-( |
| 06:33.16 | xbmodder_lappy | well Steve/John madden |
| 06:33.31 | xbmodder_lappy | (My friends football coach) |
| 06:33.33 | maquis | mheath: why would someone want to have a summer home at a ski-resort? wouldn't that be more of a winter home? |
| 06:33.36 | xbmodder_lappy | some News anchor. |
| 06:33.45 | mheath | maquis, its a popular year-round destination. |
| 06:33.47 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, no, all the pretty streams! |
| 06:33.49 | maquis | ok... |
| 06:33.56 | findlay | maquis: lots of people summer in Park City |
| 06:34.01 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, are they developing it? |
| 06:34.03 | findlay | and Wolf Creek |
| 06:34.09 | mheath | maquis, Our particular property is actually inaccessible in the winter, unless you have nice snow mobiles. |
| 06:34.17 | mheath | xbmodder_, Most poeple are. Our family isn't. |
| 06:34.23 | findlay | mheath: where? |
| 06:34.38 | mheath | I found it really funny........There was a big controversy going on about connecting that area to the power grid |
| 06:34.43 | mheath | findlay, near Telluride, Coloradol |
| 06:34.51 | findlay | oh |
| 06:34.54 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, you mean, no internet!? |
| 06:34.58 | mheath | Someone wrote a letter to the editor of the newspaper..... |
| 06:35.00 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe... |
| 06:35.12 | mheath | "As a longtime land owner on Hasting's Mesa......" |
| 06:35.35 | mheath | They'd lived there 15 years, on a 35-acre plot, in a development. |
| 06:36.04 | mheath | My family combined owns thousands of acres of land thats been in the family for 4 generations |
| 06:36.12 | mheath | Yet they say "as a longtime land owner" |
| 06:36.16 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, do they have an independent "mini-grid" right now? |
| 06:36.35 | xbmodder_lappy | I don't think anybody on this street has owned their house more than 15 years |
| 06:36.39 | mheath | No. There is no powergrid there. In our specific area. |
| 06:36.54 | mheath | Most people use solar power. |
| 06:37.01 | mheath | Solar Power + Batteries |
| 06:37.57 | xbmodder_lappy | fun |
| 06:38.03 | xbmodder_lappy | those are _expensive_ |
| 06:38.04 | mheath | I plan to sell part of my share of the property later |
| 06:38.24 | mheath | Use the money to start a prviate school, lobby for vouchers for private education, and start a computer technology business. |
| 06:38.38 | xbmodder_lappy | fun |
| 06:38.56 | mheath | xbmodder_, You just paid 10 million dollars for a cabin on a 35 acre plot of land. A $10,000 solar energy system is an afterthought. |
| 06:39.16 | xbmodder_lappy | True. |
| 06:39.37 | xbmodder_lappy | Isn't it something like $50,000, but yes, still.... |
| 06:39.53 | xbmodder_lappy | 10 million dollars :-( |
| 06:40.01 | mheath | (though thats a bit of an exageration...in our specific area, a nice modern cabin on a nice piece of land usually caps off at about $5,000,000 |
| 06:40.27 | mheath | Though, find the right seller, and theres some stuff selling for ~$10,000,000 |
| 06:42.14 | QBFreak | laters mheath |
| 06:42.37 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, how much is your share of the property worth, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 06:42.40 | xbmodder_lappy | oh |
| 06:42.42 | xbmodder_lappy | fun |
| 06:42.43 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 06:43.57 | mheath | xbmodder_, Current rates, I could probably sell it for anywhere from $20 to $50 million. Though I'd never sell all of it. |
| 06:44.10 | mheath | That ares been devided up too much as it is |
| 06:44.36 | mheath | This is just some old farming land thats been in our family for generations. My great-grandfather got the bulk of it when a sheephearder couldn't pay him back on a small loan. |
| 06:47.41 | xbmodder_lappy | heh, really sucks for that guy. and your great-grandfather is lucky. |
| 06:52.14 | *** join/#utah SpecialK (n=sjk36@fruits.cs.byu.edu) |
| 06:52.21 | SpecialK | ~lart maquis |
| 06:52.34 | maquis | -lart SpecialK |
| 06:52.43 | SpecialK | ~lart maquis |
| 06:55.52 | maquis | ~curse "pick on maquis week" |
| 06:55.53 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, "pick on maquis week" ! |
| 06:56.08 | findlay | ~hug maquis |
| 06:56.10 | ibot | ACTION hugs maquis |
| 06:56.23 | maquis | ibot: thanks |
| 06:56.23 | ibot | bitte, maquis |
| 06:56.52 | findlay | ~hug iProvo |
| 06:56.53 | ibot | ACTION hugs iProvo |
| 06:57.42 | findlay | fiber, man. Good stuff. |
| 06:57.48 | maquis | SpecialK: again? |
| 06:57.50 | maquis | sucky |
| 06:58.03 | xbmodder_lappy | ok |
| 06:58.10 | xbmodder_lappy | nick125, stop pingin me you tard |
| 06:58.21 | findlay | ~ping xbmodder_lappy |
| 06:58.22 | ibot | pong xbmodder_lappy |
| 06:58.23 | SpecialK | I just have a bit of a head ache so I'm taking a nap before I get started |
| 06:58.36 | maquis | ick |
| 06:58.44 | maquis | ~give SpecialK tylenol |
| 06:58.46 | nick125 | xbmodder_lappy: it helps if you pay attention! |
| 06:59.18 | xbmodder_lappy | I wonder how mark will respond when he sees me |
| 07:16.46 | QBFreak | I realize everyone already knows this, but IE really sucks |
| 07:17.11 | maquis | QBFreak: do share |
| 07:17.21 | QBFreak | my quicktime player is broken so I'm trying ot use the browser to view videos from my camera... |
| 07:17.34 | QBFreak | except quick time has issues there too and unlike FF IE windows are disposable to me |
| 07:17.59 | QBFreak | but, every time I drag a file into the window it gets blocked because its trying to use activex content to display it |
| 07:18.20 | QBFreak | and I can't add file://* for file:///* or the like to the trusted zone |
| 07:18.45 | maquis | :) |
| 07:18.59 | QBFreak | DIE IE! |
| 07:19.16 | QBFreak | I want to watch the muffin explode dangit |
| 07:19.22 | maquis | haha |
| 07:20.54 | findlay | time to switch to mplayer? |
| 07:22.45 | QBFreak | or a quicktime plugin for winamp I suppose |
| 07:23.49 | findlay | ~bzfrag IE |
| 07:23.51 | ibot | ACTION kills IE with a shot from his BZTank |
| 07:24.01 | QBFreak | whoo! |
| 07:30.37 | maquis | ~bzfrag QBFreak |
| 07:30.39 | ibot | ACTION skewers QBFreak with a super bullet |
| 07:30.58 | maquis | ~bzfrag findlay |
| 07:31.00 | ibot | ACTION tries to kill findlay, but finds the shield flag |
| 07:31.07 | QBFreak | aaiiiee *dies noisilly* |
| 07:31.09 | findlay | lol |
| 07:35.31 | findlay | ~bzfrag maquis |
| 07:35.33 | ibot | ACTION makes maquis feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 07:39.45 | findlay | ~bzfrag ibot |
| 07:39.46 | ibot | ACTION tries to kill ibot, but finds the shield flag |
| 07:44.46 | findlay | ~xscorch ibot |
| 07:45.03 | tene | ~doom findlay |
| 07:45.20 | QBFreak | !pants tene |
| 07:45.24 | QBFreak | alas, wrong channel :) |
| 07:50.56 | maquis | ~mock QBFreak |
| 07:50.59 | ibot | ACTION pulls QBFreak's pants down and shows the world QBFreak's pink spotted underwear |
| 07:51.04 | QBFreak | ACK! |
| 07:51.11 | maquis | SYN! |
| 07:51.27 | findlay | backwards! |
| 07:51.34 | QBFreak | yarr |
| 07:51.34 | maquis | sdrawkcab |
| 07:51.41 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 07:51.44 | findlay | eheh |
| 07:52.07 | tene | Cubey is a time traveller! |
| 07:52.26 | findlay | or maquis' packets are slow |
| 07:52.28 | QBFreak | and this is why I never let Micah near, well, anything: http://pictures.qbfreak.net/v/wcu/feb2006/100_1801.JPG.html |
| 07:53.02 | maquis | yipes! |
| 07:53.05 | xbmodder_lappy | bmud si yaldniF |
| 07:53.16 | maquis | puy |
| 07:54.18 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 07:55.13 | QBFreak | snow can be pretty too: http://pictures.qbfreak.net/v/weather/mountainsnow2006/100_1817.JPG.html |
| 07:59.06 | xbmodder_lappy | QBFreak, what is your job? |
| 08:00.17 | xbmodder_lappy | then what are all those very expensive peices of equipment doing at your "job" |
| 08:00.25 | xbmodder_lappy | What was your previous job? |
| 08:00.53 | QBFreak | I was a "data conversions specialist" according to my resume |
| 08:01.06 | xbmodder_lappy | What did you _actually_ do? |
| 08:01.29 | QBFreak | I was working for Eastman Kodak's Digital Conversions group, they converted documents for banks and the like |
| 08:01.51 | xbmodder_lappy | Very fun. :-/ |
| 08:02.06 | QBFreak | most of what I did was keeping the jobs running and trying to automate them |
| 08:02.20 | tene | did you automate away your own job? |
| 08:02.22 | tene | >.> |
| 08:02.33 | QBFreak | I'd say yes but it was more like they ran out of money |
| 08:02.43 | maquis | ouch |
| 08:02.46 | findlay | if I zoom all the way out on local.google.com on the sattelite, and drag the map across really fast, I can simulate what it looks like to travel at about 50% of the speed of light |
| 08:03.02 | xbmodder_lappy | cool |
| 08:03.07 | findlay | this new technology I'm going to patent |
| 08:03.18 | maquis | haha |
| 08:03.20 | QBFreak | I did replace myself several times, there was always something else that needed doing :) |
| 08:03.23 | findlay | and charge $10 royalties |
| 08:03.27 | tene | heh |
| 08:04.09 | xbmodder_lappy | I discovered it at midnight of the 15th, whereas findlay found it at 1 AM |
| 08:04.13 | maquis | QBFreak: did the company go under? or did they just think that this really useful employee who kept doing more and more stuff for the company just wasn't worth paying? |
| 08:04.31 | findlay | nuh-uh, I discovered it like 5 months ago |
| 08:04.49 | QBFreak | more like there wasn't another major job to allocate more temp money |
| 08:05.02 | maquis | QBFreak: sucky |
| 08:05.16 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 08:05.21 | QBFreak | I knew it was gonna happen when I took the job, just glad it lasted as long as it did |
| 08:05.28 | xbmodder_lappy | QBFreak, sucks that does. |
| 08:48.20 | QBFreak | for all the places that advertise on google when you search for "sharp battery" I've yet to find one that has a batter for this thing... |
| 08:51.47 | findlay | try yahoo shopping or froogle |
| 08:51.52 | maquis | QBFreak: would it be the same as a sharp pc-something model? |
| 08:52.07 | maquis | http://www.batteries.com/index.asp?N=4294967279+4294966562+4294965160&Ne=25&Nu=p%5Fprodcode |
| 08:52.19 | QBFreak | doubtful, I looked at a few images and they didn't appear similar |
| 08:52.29 | QBFreak | findlay: froogle was the first place I checked |
| 08:52.58 | findlay | QBFreak: try the battery barn http://www.batterybarn.com/ |
| 08:52.59 | brac | [Battery,Camcorder battery,Cordless phone battery,watch battery by BATTERY BARN, JVC SONY, Panasonic, Samsung, RCA, Canon.] |
| 08:53.12 | maquis | QBFreak: did you check sharp's website? you might be able to at least get a list of compatible batteries from them |
| 08:53.29 | QBFreak | they have next to no information on this thing, just for their Zarus |
| 08:54.25 | maquis | hmmm... yeah... they seem to think that that model doesn't exist |
| 08:54.52 | tene | bet you wooz can find it if you ask him about it tomorrow |
| 08:55.14 | QBFreak | is he good at finding stuff? (never asked) |
| 08:55.33 | tene | quite |
| 08:55.40 | tene | well |
| 08:55.41 | QBFreak | ah cool, I'll do that then |
| 08:55.44 | QBFreak | heh |
| 08:55.50 | tene | I remember him knowing lots about batteries for stuff or something |
| 08:56.20 | maquis | wooz? |
| 08:56.46 | tene | Someone on another server. |
| 08:56.54 | maquis | ah |
| 08:57.07 | findlay | http://www.batterybarn.com/mpcc032.html |
| 08:57.07 | brac | [GE Olympus Panasonic Philips Quasar RCA Zenith camcorder battery, 1CVA115 VF-BP1 LCS-2012P,RCA 1CVA115,VAC909.] |
| 08:57.12 | findlay | is that it |
| 08:57.14 | findlay | ? |
| 08:57.29 | tene | A prominent member of the community that I knew Cubey from and where I recommended that he come here for something. |
| 08:57.31 | maquis | that's a camcorder... |
| 08:57.34 | findlay | oh, looks like they are out anyway |
| 08:57.48 | QBFreak | doesn't look like it |
| 08:58.19 | QBFreak | I'm looking for an oddly shaped Lithium Ion 7.2v 1a |
| 08:58.45 | QBFreak | its a long tube almost like four or so C batteries stacked (but narrower) with a flat spot sticking out of one end |
| 08:58.49 | QBFreak | on the side |
| 08:59.10 | findlay | QBFreak: did you type all of that into google? (: |
| 09:00.01 | QBFreak | I could but I'm not too terribly optimistic for that one |
| 09:04.31 | QBFreak | this doesn't seem to be a very popular model, compared to say the 4600 |
| 09:07.55 | QBFreak | yay, I found manuals |
| 09:13.08 | QBFreak | hmm, "If the battery pack door does not close completely, the device will not power on." |
| 09:13.31 | QBFreak | I wonder if the switch is broken...he said even with external power it wouldn;t come on |
| 09:17.04 | QBFreak | you know what, computers are evil...when I'm not around mine I go to bed at a reasonable hour, when I'm not I go to bed anywhere from 4 to 8 hours later... |
| 09:20.20 | maquis | when you're not not around your computer? |
| 09:20.52 | QBFreak | yeah, I was visiting friends and four those four nights I went to bed around 12:30 |
| 09:21.00 | QBFreak | it is now nearly 4:30... |
| 09:21.53 | QBFreak | and something ate my dry erase marker |
| 09:25.54 | QBFreak | ha! I just got one of those OEM product key stickers off a case in once piece |
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| 13:06.20 | emcnabb | morning all |
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| 15:04.32 | emcnabb | welcome dave |
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| 15:16.48 | graphyx | Good morning #utah |
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| 15:23.44 | xbmodder_lappy | Good morning #utah |
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| 15:37.23 | dave | Hi evan. |
| 15:37.30 | dave | (was afk) |
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| 15:54.19 | synic | heh, you can use google talk via gmail's web interface now |
| 15:55.18 | phinux | http://www.userfriendly.org/ |
| 15:55.19 | brac | [User Friendly the Comic Strip - The Daily Static] |
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| 16:03.49 | xbmodder_ | hey all of you people |
| 16:06.30 | xbmodder_ | my hard drive is dieing :-( |
| 16:06.39 | xbmodder_ | Has everything bad gone evil? |
| 16:16.59 | xbmodder_ | hehe |
| 16:19.35 | lars-ut | new strategy: buy flowers from Costco for 16 bucks the Friday before Valentines |
| 16:19.53 | lars-ut | then on Valentines day they are in full bloom. |
| 16:20.04 | lars-ut | cost of being cheap: priceless |
| 16:20.14 | xbmodder_ | lol |
| 16:20.45 | mrpull- | synic: the gtalk interface comes and goes when I log in |
| 16:20.54 | mrpull- | synic: i don't think i like it much :) |
| 16:21.39 | mrpull- | grrr "I must restart my computer for the updates to take effect" |
| 16:22.01 | xbmodder_ | what the? |
| 16:22.08 | lars-ut | Yeah - you'll likely not have a good way to add/remove software in Vista either |
| 16:22.10 | xbmodder_ | ubunuto? |
| 16:22.27 | xbmodder_ | oh, windows |
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| 16:26.58 | maquis | mrpull-x: i don't like the gmail interface to gtalk, either |
| 16:28.03 | lars-ut | 'tis as intrusive as hellman's mayo |
| 16:28.43 | xbmodder_ | ? |
| 16:28.58 | lars-ut | yeah - it was a stretch. here's a link: |
| 16:28.59 | lars-ut | http://www.mayo.com/ |
| 16:29.00 | brac | [www.hellmanns.com] |
| 16:29.46 | jsmith | lars-ut: Hellmann's is the same as Best Foods -- west of the Mississippi it's Best Foods, east it's Hellmann's. |
| 16:30.04 | jsmith | lars-ut: Just like Dreyer's ice cream is Eddy's on the other side... |
| 16:30.22 | lars-ut | crap - my sham to curse in #utah has been revealed |
| 16:30.37 | jsmith | Bingo! |
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| 16:44.27 | sjansen | o/~ Babies, don't let your mommas grow up to be cowboys. ~/o |
| 16:45.30 | mrpull- | sjansen: did you see Willie has a new song about gay cowboys? |
| 16:46.31 | lars-ut | anybody interested in seeing 20 lines of last night's shill efforts from ##mac? |
| 16:47.23 | lars-ut | the shill's nick has been changed to protect the guilty. |
| 16:48.11 | jsmith | lars-ut: Sure! |
| 16:48.29 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.29 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.29 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.30 | brac | [MacUpdate: Macintosh Software & Games] |
| 16:48.31 | brac | [Apple - Mac OS X Downloads] |
| 16:48.35 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.35 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:49.04 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.04 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.09 | lars-ut | that about does it. |
| 16:49.46 | maquis | haha |
| 16:50.28 | lars-ut | I gave fair warning |
| 16:51.35 | xbmodder_ | ~lart lars-ut |
| 16:53.09 | jsmith | Speaking of food... |
| 16:58.00 | harleypig | http://qdb.us/55422 |
| 16:58.01 | harleypig | sfw |
| 16:58.04 | brac | [QDB: Quote #55422] |
| 16:59.20 | jsmith | harleypig: That's so true :-) |
| 17:02.26 | graphyx | That's funny. |
| 17:04.10 | lars-ut | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SFW |
| 17:04.54 | sjansen | heh |
| 17:05.39 | lars-ut | Sensor-fused (or fuzed) weapon |
| 17:05.48 | lars-ut | SFW |
| 17:06.02 | elg | sigh |
| 17:06.11 | elg | "too bad we don't have emoticons on this forum" |
| 17:06.15 | elg | (this being a newsgroup) |
| 17:06.36 | elg | I don't know which is sadder - that this person thinks this is a forum, or that this person doesn't realize you can make emoticons out of text |
| 17:07.06 | sjansen | The person probably wants the shiny, animated images. |
| 17:07.23 | jsmith | We wants an avatar |
| 17:07.33 | elg | sure. but the sad bit is that this person doesn't know about text emoticons |
| 17:07.40 | elg | otoh, perhaps that's a good thing |
| 17:07.46 | jsmith | :-) |
| 17:07.48 | elg | otherwise i'd have to wade through them in her posts |
| 17:08.05 | jsmith | Good to see the elitist in you is shining through :-) |
| 17:08.24 | sjansen | elitist? good taste isn't elitism |
| 17:08.27 | elg | had it dulled? |
| 17:08.45 | elg | anyone here qualified to give me basic statistics advice? |
| 17:08.53 | elg | we're not talking serious stats here, just some basiss |
| 17:08.56 | maquis | http://qdb.us/35410 |
| 17:08.58 | brac | [QDB: Quote #35410] |
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| 17:17.34 | Hhhhhhh | hullo |
| 17:17.44 | jsmith | http://qdb.us/4753 |
| 17:17.46 | brac | [QDB: Quote #4753] |
| 17:20.02 | Hhhhhhh | jsmith, wtf |
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| 17:42.58 | dave | I finally found a satisfactory FTP server: stupid-ftp. Cross-compiles and works quite well. |
| 17:43.01 | dave | Plus, the name can't be beat. |
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| 17:47.08 | fozzmoo | Moo! |
| 17:47.18 | fozzmoo | What is GSSAPI? |
| 17:47.24 | dave | An authentication protocol. |
| 17:47.31 | fozzmoo | Why would you use it? |
| 17:47.49 | dave | I avoid authentication in general. Like RMS, my password is <enter>. |
| 17:48.05 | dave | I believe you can use GSSAPI to keep users from having to enter their passwords more than once. |
| 17:48.52 | fozzmoo | I'm auditing a Linux box for a client and their sshd_config has GSSAPI authentication enabled. |
| 17:48.54 | fozzmoo | I've never used it. |
| 17:49.20 | dave | Probably innocuous. |
| 17:50.44 | fozzmoo | thx |
| 17:50.46 | sjansen | ~google gssapi |
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| 17:50.55 | fozzmoo | sjansen: Did that. |
| 17:50.59 | dave | But sjansen, that would require typing. |
| 17:51.01 | fozzmoo | Why do you think I came to #utah |
| 17:51.02 | dave | Which we obviously can't do. |
| 17:51.07 | sjansen | The most likely reason for using gssapi with ssh is to use kerberos for authentication. |
| 17:51.07 | dave | ~lart sjansen |
| 17:51.22 | fozzmoo | Google told me "RTFRFC" |
| 17:51.33 | dave | sjansen: How's GL? |
| 17:51.56 | sjansen | Love it. |
| 17:52.07 | dave | Still coding, or now teaching more? |
| 17:52.24 | sjansen | Mostly coding. Taught in Phoenix, AZ last week. |
| 17:52.29 | dave | Fun. |
| 17:52.39 | dave | Language(s)? |
| 17:53.48 | fozzmoo | Does LateX count as a language? :) |
| 17:53.57 | sjansen | Ruby, Python, Perl, Bash, ConTeXt, MetaFun (and a bit of Postscript I didn't write) |
| 17:54.11 | dave | Whatever happened to the good ol' days of C CGIs? |
| 17:54.20 | sjansen | fozzmoo: If you're write your own styles, most decidedly. |
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| 17:55.30 | dave | I wrote my first C CGIs last month. Quite fun. |
| 17:55.36 | dave | As long as they're simple, that is. |
| 17:56.44 | sjansen | heh |
| 17:58.15 | fozzmoo | printf("Content-type: text/html\n\n<html>Hello World\n</html>\n"); |
| 17:58.25 | sjansen | Oh, left out RelaxNG and XML (of course). |
| 17:58.43 | dave | Well, thanks for the resume. ;) |
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| 18:01.21 | dave | fozzmoo: Did you know that most compilers will optimize that printf() to a puts() at compile time? |
| 18:01.48 | fozzmoo | I had no idea! |
| 18:01.56 | dave | Can you guess why? |
| 18:02.11 | fozzmoo | uhhhh.... no printf interpolation? |
| 18:02.15 | dave | Yup. |
| 18:08.18 | lars-ut | WAA like channel recommendation? |
| 18:08.40 | lars-ut | need Windows admin help for some scripting |
| 18:21.45 | tene | http://socialitelife.com/images/filename-28-tm.jpg |
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| 18:33.14 | maquis | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060215-6185.html <-- /me has a bad feeling about where that discussion could go... |
| 18:35.15 | elg | people who think they have a right to snoop want a back-door to encryption. nothing new there. |
| 18:37.37 | tensai | won't somebody think of the terrorists?!?!? |
| 18:38.21 | tensai | maquis: if you use encryption, that means you've got something to hide. which laws are you breaking today? |
| 18:39.07 | RyanE | I'm pretty sure she watches movies on her Linux box, so must be breaking DCMA. :) |
| 18:39.31 | maquis | tensai: haha |
| 18:39.46 | maquis | RyanE: actually, i haven't in quite a while... need to pull one out sometime... |
| 18:40.49 | fozzmoo | maquis is always encouraging people to do naughty things. That's what I love about her. :) |
| 18:40.56 | maquis | haha |
| 18:41.02 | QBFreak | I was in the salvation army the other day and they had a whole bunch of year 2000 doomsday videos |
| 18:41.49 | QBFreak | made me laugh, apparently they were wrong :) |
| 18:41.55 | maquis | :) |
| 18:42.00 | fozzmoo | Depends on which calendar you go by, I guess. :) |
| 18:48.00 | RyanE | maquis: it'll be a lot worse on January 19, 2038, because the suicide cults that die that day will all be *GEEKS*! |
| 18:48.13 | maquis | RyanE: good point |
| 18:48.20 | maquis | was it 2038? |
| 18:49.08 | RyanE | fortunately for me, I'll be retired at that point. I'll let you young'ins handle that one. |
| 18:49.11 | maquis | oh... no... that's a different one... that's interesting, though |
| 18:50.30 | maquis | 2012 is the one i was thinking of |
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| 19:11.07 | sjansen | http://www.stallman.org/extra/personal.html |
| 19:12.30 | lars-ut | "you guys move & assemble the desks for us & I'll pay you." |
| 19:12.54 | jsmith | lars-ut: Moving desks? |
| 19:13.03 | Hhhhhh | ROFL!!!!! sjansen, that's awesome!!! |
| 19:13.15 | lars-ut | jsmith: upstairs level |
| 19:13.31 | Hhhhhh | hahahahaha |
| 19:13.47 | lars-ut | jsmith: (ground level, really, since we're in the basmement office) |
| 19:13.59 | Hhhhhh | so Richard "Grissly Adams" Stallman wants to mate, huh? Got enough of those FSF trolls? |
| 19:14.11 | Hhhhhh | haha |
| 19:14.12 | jsmith | lars-ut: More people, or just shuffling deck chairs? |
| 19:14.22 | lars-ut | the latter |
| 19:14.27 | lars-ut | no need to duck |
| 19:14.44 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.50 | jsmith | Ahh... |
| 19:15.04 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.31 | jsmith | So now you've got an ever stronger case of short-timer's disease? |
| 19:15.51 | lars-ut | actually, no. I'm resolute, but eager to learn the good stuff I can before I leave. |
| 19:16.06 | lars-ut | Amazing the power of making a decision to make a decision. |
| 19:16.27 | jsmith | Yeah... |
| 19:16.29 | lars-ut | At least that's what I keep telling myself. |
| 19:17.13 | lars-ut | & english. |
| 19:41.42 | QBFreak | http://pictures.qbfreak.net/v/friends/micah/muffin/ |
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| 19:57.33 | findlay | does anyone here use vim+ctags for perl? |
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| 20:14.29 | findlay | w00t! |
| 20:16.40 | QBFreak | knowing anything about it is cheating |
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| 20:35.03 | brando1 | has anyone setup a podcast? Is it as simple as making an mp3 then running a program against it to genereate an xml file and putting a link on a website to the xml file? |
| 20:35.30 | jsmith | brando1: Pretty much... |
| 20:35.41 | jsmith | brando1: Not really that complicated, is it |
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| 20:57.24 | sjansen | o/~ Boom, boom, ain't it great to be crazy? ~/o |
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| 21:04.14 | hagna | is there any way to tell what devices a kernel wants for root= on bootup if it panics and won't even startup? |
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| 21:04.41 | findlay | hagna: did you build your own kernel? |
| 21:04.49 | hagna | findlay: yes |
| 21:06.37 | sjansen | trial and error |
| 21:06.42 | sjansen | hagna: What distro? |
| 21:06.42 | findlay | after you're done runnig 'make' or 'make all' it will tell you the root device |
| 21:06.49 | hagna | gentoo |
| 21:06.52 | findlay | what hard drive |
| 21:07.00 | sjansen | grub? |
| 21:07.01 | findlay | IDE, ATA? |
| 21:07.04 | hagna | sjansen: only error so far |
| 21:07.10 | hagna | sata |
| 21:07.17 | hagna | and the other one is scsi |
| 21:07.27 | hagna | I have the same prob on two different machines |
| 21:07.30 | sjansen | heh |
| 21:07.44 | hagna | make all ? |
| 21:07.56 | sjansen | Haven't tried mixing scsi and sata, but sata and ide can cause problems for grub. |
| 21:08.44 | sjansen | Can't tell you how to do it, but if you can make it to the grub command line you can use it for search filesystems until you find what looks like the correct root. |
| 21:08.54 | sjansen | s/do it/do it on gentoo/ |
| 21:09.57 | hagna | sjansen: yeah I can use grub to look around, but that doesn't tell me what device the kernel wants to use for root |
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| 21:10.14 | sjansen | on the grub command line, you should be able to type 'find etc' and that'll be the root you need, although you'll have to translate (hdX,X) to /dev/sdXX |
| 21:11.06 | sjansen | The kernel wants it root to be the partition containing /etc, /lib, /bin, /sbin... Unless it needs an initrd to boot. |
| 21:11.32 | sjansen | s/partition/filesystem/ |
| 21:12.39 | hagna | ibot: how do you know? |
| 21:12.48 | hagna | ibot: I think you are just trying to get attention |
| 21:12.50 | ibot | You think you are just trying to get attention? |
| 21:12.59 | hagna | ibot: tell me about your mother. |
| 21:13.35 | graphyx | hagna: Leave the poor mindless bot alone. |
| 21:16.14 | graphyx | ibot: tell me about my mother |
| 21:17.51 | sjansen | ~whack graphyx |
| 21:17.52 | ibot | ACTION whacks graphyx upside the head. |
| 21:19.40 | jsmith | graphyx: Got broadband yet? |
| 21:24.58 | findlay | sjansen: does grub treat (S)ATA drives as a (hdX,X) drive? |
| 21:26.18 | dataw0lf | findlay: yea |
| 21:28.43 | dataw0lf | sjansen: I've adopted the Simon way for simple things and embed lambdas in hashes. |
| 21:28.54 | dataw0lf | http://simon.incutio.com/archive/2004/05/07/switch |
| 21:28.56 | brac | [Simon Willison: Switch statements in Python] |
| 21:29.12 | dataw0lf | I don't know why I like it. It's kinda ugly. |
| 21:32.28 | findlay | ibot: what about sjansen's mother? |
| 21:33.43 | TimRiker | findlay: grub uses the system bios to get to the drives. whatever the bios reads, it reports. sata, scsi, ide, etc. |
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| 21:38.08 | hagna | sjansen: python, eh? You can use that dispatcher pattern |
| 21:39.10 | hagna | sjansen: make a dict of "option", method pairs |
| 21:40.15 | hagna | so (hd0,2) would be sda3 I would think, however it looks like a no |
| 21:48.54 | sjansen | Looks like there was another accident between the 500 N and Centerville exits. |
| 21:49.10 | jsmith | sjansen: And you're surprised? |
| 21:49.16 | sjansen | I'm looking out the windows, and I-15 N is completely stopped. |
| 21:49.35 | sjansen | jsmith: Actually, yes. You'd think Utahns would know how to drive in snow. |
| 21:49.45 | jsmith | sjansen: No, they don't. |
| 21:49.59 | jsmith | sjansen: You'd think Utahns would know how to drive, period... |
| 21:50.16 | sjansen | (hd0,2) might be /dev/sdb3 if the kernel is seeing devices in a different order (which it shouldn't, but in some versions does) |
| 21:50.31 | Hhhhhh | and I throw Californians into the equation too |
| 21:50.46 | Hhhhhh | and Idahoans |
| 21:51.29 | jsmith | Hhhhhh: Look at your /boot/grub/device.map file, and see if it says |
| 21:51.59 | Hhhhhh | jsmith, I'm in windows ATM |
| 21:52.48 | Hhhhhh | enough to make me hate Utah |
| 21:54.16 | goozbach | snow?!! |
| 21:54.19 | goozbach | whoohoo |
| 21:54.26 | goozbach | I'm going snowboarding saturday |
| 21:54.28 | jsmith | maquis: Not enough? A lousy start? |
| 21:54.29 | findlay | ~snow goozbach |
| 21:54.33 | goozbach | that means freah powder |
| 21:55.34 | jsmith | Yup. |
| 21:56.40 | hagna | sjansen: would you define the function for me |
| 21:57.51 | hagna | prove F(hd0,2) = /dev/sdb3 |
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| 22:00.44 | sjansen | /dev/sdX is assigned as the kernel detects devices, if the order the kernel sees the devices is different than the order the bios (and grub as a result) sees devices is different then (hd0,2) might be the same as /dev/sdb3 |
| 22:01.09 | sjansen | that shouldn't happen, it would be classified as a bug, but we've seen it here at guru labs |
| 22:01.30 | sjansen | things get ickier when you have a mix of sata and ide |
| 22:02.04 | sjansen | grub sees (hd0,X) and (hd1,X), but the kernel sees /dev/sdaX and /dev/hdaX |
| 22:02.23 | findlay | ~prove Fermat's Last Theorem |
| 22:03.20 | sjansen | (rumor has it that the next kernel version will replace /dev/hdXX with just /dev/sdXX) |
| 22:04.59 | lars-ut | findlay: that was mean. |
| 22:05.46 | lars-ut | NOVA Online | The Proof |
| 22:05.47 | lars-ut | "For over 350 years, some of the greatest minds of science struggled to prove what was known as Fermat's Last Theorem -- the idea that a certain simple equation had no solutions. Now hear from the man who spent seven years of his life cracking the problem, read the intriguing story of an 18th century woman mathematician who hid her identity in order to work on Fermat's Last Theorem, and demonstrate that a related equation, the Pythagorean Theorem, is true." |
| 22:05.47 | lars-ut | http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/proof/ |
| 22:05.48 | brac | [NOVA Online | The Proof] |
| 22:06.46 | lars-ut | go ahead, lart me, kill me... |
| 22:07.09 | sjansen | ~kill lars-ut |
| 22:07.10 | ibot | ACTION shoots a charged fluxneutrino gun at lars-ut |
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| 22:09.12 | sjansen | Must've been a pretty nasty accident. I-15 still isn't moving. |
| 22:10.35 | findlay | sjansen: you've got IRC. Isn't that all that matters? |
| 22:16.13 | TimRiker | http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=114 |
| 22:16.15 | brac | [3 : ksl.com] |
| 22:16.33 | mheath | harleypig: not around now, are you? |
| 22:17.49 | TimRiker | particularly useful camera view of the point of the mountian: http://www.utahcommuterlink.com/1_devices/aux108.jpeg |
| 22:18.09 | mheath | sjansen, more like dozens of nasty accidents, I think. The roads are horrible! |
| 22:19.08 | TimRiker | 33 south shows backed up traffic http://www.utahcommuterlink.com/1_devices/aux101.jpeg |
| 22:19.27 | sjansen | Well, my faith in commuterlink is completely destroyed. |
| 22:20.13 | mheath | That was driving a mile home from schoo, going 10 MPH in a residential area. |
| 22:20.53 | mheath | Anyone know of any legitimate, good pay-per-movie movie download sites? |
| 22:20.57 | findlay | that point of the mountaian photo tells all. I think it's symbolic, representing the gray hopelessness Utah drivers ever becoming competent |
| 22:22.01 | sjansen | Traffic has finally started moving very slowly, but for the last half hour I-15 Northbound near Bountiful has been a parking lot. The only incident report on commuterlink says 0 lanes affected. |
| 22:22.53 | mheath | The moral: Tonight is a good night to make use of your fireplace, relax, and enjoy some hot cocoa. |
| 22:23.26 | levi | I need to get to class in Orem tonight. :/ |
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| 22:23.50 | sjansen | Leave now. Drive slowly. |
| 22:24.14 | mheath | Hmm |
| 22:24.31 | mheath | So, no one here has used any legal movie download sites before? |
| 22:24.42 | mheath | Pay-Per-Movied |
| 22:24.44 | mheath | *Movie |
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| 22:25.19 | TimRiker | 1. An accident has closed NB I-15 at MM351 near the Box Elder/Weber Countly line. |
| 22:25.19 | TimRiker | 2. An accident NB I-15 at the Centerville offramp has closed I-15. |
| 22:25.24 | hans | that was funny. I stopped in the cs dept office and they tell me my mailbox (which I didn't know I had) is filling up |
| 22:25.27 | hans | so I learn I have a mailbox. |
| 22:25.37 | hans | In my mailbox is a floorplan |
| 22:25.45 | TimRiker | and bonus.. it comes prefilled with spam. |
| 22:25.49 | hans | that floorplan teaches me that I also have an office |
| 22:25.49 | sjansen | Apparently there's actually two accidents. My boss's wife says there a "50 car pileup" and a little farther north there's a jack knifed semi with another "10 cars". |
| 22:26.03 | hans | TimRiker: yes, there were about 50 flyers from some "Teaching Academy" that does like weekly workshops |
| 22:26.15 | hans | nothing actually for just me. so I didn't miss anything important |
| 22:26.17 | mheath | hans, you didn't know you had an office, or a mailbox? =P |
| 22:26.23 | hans | nobody bothered to tell me |
| 22:26.26 | hans | but I'm psyched |
| 22:26.32 | hans | the grad lab isn't bad, but a bit noise |
| 22:26.34 | sjansen | s/there/she saw/ |
| 22:26.41 | hans | at least I can't understand what they're saying so it's not too distracting. |
| 22:26.42 | mheath | But do you have a key to your office? |
| 22:26.49 | TimRiker | mheath: I have.. oh. you probably mean for main stream movies not legal genesis bootleg videos, huh? |
| 22:26.49 | mheath | hans, are you professor at the university, then? |
| 22:26.51 | hans | i need to bring in $10 to get the key. tomorrow probably |
| 22:26.57 | hans | no, just a teaching assistant |
| 22:27.01 | mheath | TimRiker, yeah. |
| 22:27.06 | TimRiker | =) |
| 22:27.09 | mheath | I'm looking for a legal way to download movies. Pay-per-movie. |
| 22:27.24 | mheath | I've found some sites, but I was wondering if anyone knew of any good ones |
| 22:27.26 | hans | and a phd student. not sure which of those got me the offie |
| 22:27.38 | TimRiker | well, if you want genesis or peter gabriel videos, then I can help you out. ;-) |
| 22:28.14 | tensai | mheath: http://www.archive.org/details/movies |
| 22:28.17 | sjansen | hans: It was probably all that flirting you did with the department secretary. |
| 22:28.27 | hans | -lart sjansen |
| 22:28.56 | hans | actually one of the student assistant secretaries is kind of cute. the dept. secretary is a little old even for me |
| 22:29.42 | hans | mheath: be a grad student, see the world! |
| 22:29.53 | hans | s/world/... um, something.../ |
| 22:31.30 | dataw0lf | inside of a poorly lit room for years? |
| 22:31.45 | hans | :) |
| 22:31.51 | hans | actually I spend most of my time at home |
| 22:31.52 | dataw0lf | ;) |
| 22:31.56 | dataw0lf | lucky |
| 22:31.57 | hans | come on campus to go to class |
| 22:32.05 | hans | my laptop is my lab |
| 22:32.08 | dataw0lf | who'd you bribe? |
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| 22:32.34 | hans | well, next week I do have to spend 10 hours a week helping students with stupid microsoft apps |
| 22:32.42 | hans | I'd rather be inside a poorly-lit room |
| 22:32.57 | hans | with the glow of a dozen xterms on my face |
| 22:34.20 | tensai | hans: paint your face green and see if all the students run away scared |
| 22:34.20 | harleypig | mheath: I am, I'm just not paying attention (I'm too poor) |
| 22:35.03 | hans | tensai: i'm sure they will |
| 22:35.24 | sjansen | hans: pretend you've never used windows before (you're a grad student, you're not expected to know anything useful) |
| 22:35.45 | hans | sjansen: I might as well have never used windows for all I've used office |
| 22:35.57 | hans | I just read ahead in their text last semester. it's not rocket science |
| 22:36.09 | hagna | do you have to press esc esc :wq in office? |
| 22:36.17 | hans | most of it is straightening them up when the book leads them astray |
| 22:36.46 | nick125 | hagna: no, go to the file menu, then click on quit |
| 22:36.51 | hans | I'm a TA for another class this semester, that I've never taken. the teacher naturally thinks I can't know anything about it since I've never taken it and has yet to give me anything to do |
| 22:37.10 | hans | supposedly I'll do some bookwork for him at some stage. I just keep reminding him I exist |
| 22:37.13 | hans | and getting paid |
| 22:37.15 | hans | and an office! |
| 22:37.38 | hans | so I can't complain |
| 22:38.16 | nick125 | money :D |
| 22:38.52 | hans | not me. I want to be payed to do whatever I want with no accountability |
| 22:38.56 | hans | doing nothing can be rather boring. |
| 22:39.13 | hans | I know, I did that as a teen. I was a lifeguard |
| 22:39.22 | hans | technically not doing nothing. I was paid for staying awake |
| 22:39.26 | hans | and knowing what to do |
| 22:39.31 | hans | but it was mostly doing nothing |
| 22:39.33 | sjansen | good point |
| 22:39.45 | hagna | hans: did you notice the swimsuit styles? |
| 22:40.01 | sjansen | ~flunk maquis |
| 22:40.02 | ibot | ACTION gives maquis a big fat F |
| 22:40.10 | hans | swimsuit styles, swimming styles, towel styles, wet hair styles |
| 22:40.29 | hans | excercise frequency styles |
| 22:40.42 | hagna | hans: man it sounds like you did it for a long time |
| 22:40.48 | nick125 | ~flunk maquis again |
| 22:40.49 | ibot | ACTION gives maquis again a big fat F |
| 22:41.01 | hans | 4 years mostly |
| 22:41.26 | hans | parent teaching kid to swim styles |
| 22:41.41 | hans | how to get your {friend,s.o.,kid} to dive styles |
| 22:42.35 | hans | but mostly, during the summer, how the clouds form |
| 22:42.50 | hans | It was a good job, really. and the best paying job for a teen where I grew up |
| 22:42.56 | hans | (not in utah. they pay lifeguards in peanuts in utah) |
| 22:43.10 | hans | you laugh |
| 22:43.21 | hans | but that was me |
| 22:43.25 | maquis | haha |
| 22:43.29 | hans | of course, not your typical lifeguard |
| 22:43.43 | hans | and probably not as many women wanting to talk to me as say David Hasselhoff |
| 22:43.47 | hans | but not 0 either. ;-) |
| 22:43.56 | hagna | .5? |
| 22:44.06 | nick125 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.07 | findlay | hans, the lifeguard vim guru |
| 22:44.15 | nick125 | 0.53256737832- |
| 22:44.28 | nick125 | dont ask hows thats possible |
| 22:44.40 | sjansen | hans: sorry, I got stuck at the tanned part |
| 22:44.45 | hans | haha |
| 22:44.52 | hans | I used to have year-round teva tans |
| 22:45.09 | hans | they would be almost faded by the time spring came around and I started working again |
| 22:45.14 | hans | I was a river guide one summer too |
| 22:45.23 | hans | I was tan. that much is without doubt |
| 22:46.38 | hagna | sunny ones |
| 22:46.52 | hagna | uh oh |
| 22:46.57 | hans | I mostly wished it was cloudy though |
| 22:47.02 | hans | because I hated sitting there in the sun |
| 22:47.13 | hans | so hot, and such bother with the sunscreen |
| 22:47.27 | hagna | yes but what about ... |
| 22:47.33 | hans | I used to wear this longsleeve cotton light-blue button up shirt (unbuttoned) which I would dip in the water occasionally |
| 22:47.36 | hans | and a hat |
| 22:47.36 | hagna | um the people in swimsuits |
| 22:47.38 | hans | that worked pretty well |
| 22:48.05 | hans | a nice cotton fishing hat |
| 22:48.06 | hagna | hans: how big was the pool? |
| 22:48.13 | hans | no stupid baseball cap |
| 22:48.23 | hans | 25 yards with a deep end |
| 22:48.32 | hans | and then I worked at a 25meter community college pool |
| 22:48.56 | hans | and when i came to school one half semester at the new PG pool |
| 22:48.58 | hagna | hans: I used to lifeguard too |
| 22:49.04 | hagna | hans: though not as much |
| 22:49.11 | hans | which is 50 meter with a fan |
| 22:49.23 | hagna | hans: is that one outdoor? |
| 22:49.27 | hans | yeah |
| 22:49.30 | hans | and really nice |
| 22:49.42 | hans | they pay the lifeguards ok for utah, but admission is steep |
| 22:50.03 | hans | then the internet bubble and li'l old me finally got a computer job |
| 22:50.11 | hans | and TA jobs |
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| 22:51.09 | hans | I made between 7.50 and 9 or 10 iirc in new mexico |
| 22:52.42 | hans | huddled in the little pump room with one or two other (cute) lifeguards |
| 22:52.48 | hans | while it pounds rain outside |
| 22:52.51 | hans | and we just chill and talk |
| 22:52.53 | hans | and get paid for it |
| 22:52.59 | sjansen | http://blogs.siliconvalley.com/gmsv/2006/02/frankly_sir_its.html |
| 22:53.07 | hans | so we've come full circle. getting paid for doing nothing. :) |
| 22:53.17 | maquis | hans: what if people didn't get out of the pool for the rainstorm? |
| 22:53.26 | hans | we kicked them out |
| 22:53.37 | hans | but usually they got out when we told them to |
| 22:53.47 | hans | never had to go so far as to call the cops or anything |
| 22:55.15 | maquis | hmm... interesting |
| 22:55.30 | hagna | did it start raining? |
| 22:55.33 | maquis | in seattle, most people don't have problems with swimming in rainstorms |
| 22:55.48 | hagna | what about lightning? |
| 22:56.00 | hagna | did they have trouble swimming in lightning? |
| 22:56.19 | maquis | seattle doesn't have all that many lightning storms... |
| 22:56.45 | maquis | i can't remember ever being anywhere near a pool when there was a lighteninv storm... |
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| 23:14.16 | dataw0lf | egaaaaad. *sigh* Ruby and it's local scope problems. /me strangles Ruby |
| 23:14.41 | elg | local scope problems? |
| 23:14.56 | *** part/#utah brando1 (n=brandon@blurry.skewedvision.com) |
| 23:14.56 | sjansen | problems? |
| 23:15.22 | dataw0lf | you're delusional. |
| 23:15.29 | elg | heh. I believe it but I haven't heard of this one before |
| 23:15.46 | levi | What's its local scope problem? |
| 23:16.18 | dataw0lf | http://www.rubyist.net/~matz/slides/rc2003/mgp00010.html <-- |
| 23:16.22 | brac | [MagicPoint presentation foils] |
| 23:16.35 | maquis | decision_tree.h:12: warning: conflicting types for built-in function 'log2' |
| 23:17.05 | maquis | grrr |
| 23:17.21 | maquis | man log2 doesn't say anything, but apparently there is a log2 function |
| 23:17.29 | levi | Ahh, yeah, that would be a problem in a lexically-scoped language that lets you use local variables without declaring them. |
| 23:18.12 | levi | How to tell if a variable should be local or close over a definition in the lexical environment? |
| 23:18.37 | dataw0lf | maquis: that should've been patched in 3.4 |
| 23:19.00 | elg | dataw0lf: how do you expect that to work? |
| 23:19.09 | elg | like levi says, it's the way it goes |
| 23:19.33 | elg | set foo to nil outside and your problem's gone. hardly any more annoying than explicit scope in a language like C |
| 23:19.34 | dataw0lf | go two slides further |
| 23:19.38 | elg | but you only have to do it on occasion |
| 23:19.40 | maquis | dataw0lf: what should've been patched? and i'm asusming by 3.4, you mean gcc 3.4? |
| 23:20.33 | dataw0lf | maquis: nevermind, I'm dumb. |
| 23:20.37 | elg | dataw0lf: ok, is that way better? |
| 23:20.40 | elg | or worse? |
| 23:20.43 | dataw0lf | elg: I like it. |
| 23:20.46 | elg | afaict it's arbitrary |
| 23:20.50 | maquis | dataw0lf: ok |
| 23:21.25 | sjansen | *shrug* I prefer the other. It's closer to what I'm used to in C. (I just consider the first use an implicit declaration.) |
| 23:21.31 | elg | I like the other too |
| 23:21.32 | levi | dataw0lf: You like which? |
| 23:21.38 | dataw0lf | the second one. |
| 23:21.42 | elg | then I don't have to remember which blocks are "transparent" |
| 23:22.00 | elg | I just assume they all are. but I can do that in the second way too so no problem |
| 23:22.12 | elg | er, I assume they are all not transparent. |
| 23:22.22 | dataw0lf | it's definitely a personal preference, it just bugs me. |
| 23:22.35 | elg | i should be paying attention to the professor, but the book explains it so much better. |
| 23:22.46 | sjansen | You're annoyed by something like that and yet you can get along with Python? |
| 23:22.49 | levi | There should just be a way to declare local variables. |
| 23:23.03 | elg | if he had given us the chapter he planned to lecture on, I might have read it and then care to pay attention in case he says anything interesting |
| 23:23.26 | dataw0lf | sjansen: Python's scoping bothers me too. |
| 23:23.47 | elg | this sounds like a job for LanguageMan! |
| 23:23.49 | dataw0lf | Python might be my favorite high level language but I don't insist it's perfect. |
| 23:24.06 | levi | The new Ruby one breaks some nifty closure things. |
| 23:24.08 | elg | LanguageMan will write you your very own language perfectly tailored to your tastes! |
| 23:24.16 | dataw0lf | elg: Ellis? |
| 23:24.24 | elg | :) |
| 23:24.27 | dataw0lf | ;) |
| 23:24.36 | elg | levi: I wonder if procs still work the old way |
| 23:24.39 | dataw0lf | I'm too snide today, I need a nap. |
| 23:25.23 | levi | In scheme, you can make a function that creates some local variables, then returns a closure that can modify those variables. |
| 23:25.27 | sjansen | Man, I-15 is still doing like 5 mph. Those poor people, this has got to be adding like 1.5 hours to everyone's trip. |
| 23:25.35 | dataw0lf | I'm enjoying sjansen's PLUG posts too much, they're corrupting me. |
| 23:25.45 | levi | You could do the same thing in the old-style Ruby, but not the new-style, unless I'm missing something. |
| 23:25.46 | elg | heh. "toxic toads take over australia" |
| 23:25.46 | dataw0lf | levi: I'm a big fan of that. |
| 23:26.00 | findlay | I think I've been a bad influence on sjansen |
| 23:26.02 | findlay | and levi |
| 23:26.05 | findlay | and maquis |
| 23:26.10 | levi | findlay: How so? |
| 23:26.28 | elg | levi: perhaps they're listening to too much wagner now. |
| 23:26.32 | findlay | levi: only if you've acquired a penchant for strange humor |
| 23:27.01 | levi | findlay: I've always had a penchant for strange humor. |
| 23:27.44 | lars-ut | sjansen: wheer are the slowdowns? |
| 23:28.02 | lars-ut | s/wheer/where |
| 23:28.11 | dataw0lf | I think it's the fact that Utah people seem to have a hard time driving in snow, which is confusing. |
| 23:28.11 | sjansen | Between North Salt Lake and Centerville (at least). |
| 23:28.25 | lars-ut | dataw0lf: I agree. |
| 23:28.42 | QBFreak | sounds like the drivers around here |
| 23:28.49 | elg | dataw0lf: it's just that they have a hard time driving, period. snow just exacerbates the problem. |
| 23:29.01 | dataw0lf | plus merging. It seems to be an arcane science that noone can master around here. |
| 23:29.03 | dataw0lf | Maybe it's just SLC. |
| 23:29.13 | QBFreak | three lanes and 25mph, the car still counldn't seem to make up its mind which side of the road to drive off of |
| 23:29.26 | lars-ut | dataw0lf: proper use of signal... |
| 23:29.41 | dataw0lf | lars-ut: yup. Yeah, it's basically just their ability to drive. |
| 23:30.34 | dataw0lf | speaking of, I'm headed out to suffer 30 minutes of commute time with em. cya guys tomorrow. |
| 23:30.44 | levi | dataw0lf: Seeya. |
| 23:30.48 | lars-ut | good luck - It Conversations is your friend. |
| 23:30.56 | lars-ut | s/It/IT |
| 23:31.09 | levi | Anyone here going to hear Alan Kay next week? |
| 23:31.25 | lars-ut | http://www.itconversations.com/ |
| 23:31.37 | lars-ut | levi: I think herlo is |
| 23:31.54 | lars-ut | and findlay, aren't you carpooling with him? |
| 23:32.26 | findlay | yup |
| 23:32.38 | findlay | didn't know his irc tag though |
| 23:32.54 | levi | So, perhaps I will see some of you there. |
| 23:33.15 | lars-ut | -urls 15 |
| 23:33.16 | brac | [2006/02/15 16:31:25] <lars-ut> http://www.itconversations.com/ |
| 23:33.16 | brac | [2006/02/15 16:16:21] <dataw0lf> http://www.rubyist.net/~matz/slides/rc2003/mgp00010.html |
| 23:33.16 | brac | [2006/02/15 15:53:01] <sjansen> http://blogs.siliconvalley.com/gmsv/2006/02/frankly_sir_its.html |
| 23:33.16 | brac | [2006/02/15 15:28:16] <tensai> http://www.archive.org/details/movies |
| 23:33.18 | brac | [2006/02/15 15:19:09] <TimRiker> http://www.utahcommuterlink.com/1_devices/aux101.jpeg |
| 23:33.18 | brac | [2006/02/15 15:17:50] <TimRiker> http://www.utahcommuterlink.com/1_devices/aux108.jpeg |
| 23:33.18 | brac | [2006/02/15 15:16:14] <TimRiker> http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=114 |
| 23:33.20 | brac | [2006/02/15 15:05:47] <lars-ut> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/proof/ |
| 23:33.22 | brac | [2006/02/15 14:28:56] <dataw0lf> http://simon.incutio.com/archive/2004/05/07/switch |
| 23:33.24 | brac | [2006/02/15 12:41:46] <QBFreak> http://pictures.qbfreak.net/v/friends/micah/muffin/ |
| 23:33.31 | QBFreak | muffin go boom! |
| 23:34.36 | lars-ut | QBFreak: good start, but I see a need for more advanced explosions |
| 23:34.43 | maquis | ~lart brac and lars-ut for flooding |
| 23:35.19 | lars-ut | ~lart maquis for larting lars-ut for something he was already killed & larted for |
| 23:35.21 | maquis | findlay: so... did i miss it someplace? how are you a bad influence on me? |
| 23:35.57 | QBFreak | lars-ut: believe it or not the stuff we used was illegal to possess in this state... |
| 23:36.10 | QBFreak | errr' |
| 23:36.11 | lars-ut | that's a start |
| 23:36.13 | QBFreak | I can't spell for nothin |
| 23:36.53 | lars-ut | let me know when you move on to um, Ammonium Triodide crystals & pistol powders |
| 23:37.02 | QBFreak | we were gonna stick some of those in a snowman the other day but they got left in my friend's shed where we did the muffin |
| 23:37.37 | findlay | maquis: admit it you feel a propensity for sarcasm |
| 23:38.19 | QBFreak | only the very old ones he brought when he moved from texas |
| 23:38.40 | QBFreak | the cheap ones I had which I suspect came from South Carolina barely did anything to it |
| 23:39.03 | lars-ut | stinkin' South Carlina black cats... |
| 23:39.19 | QBFreak | and SC sells stuff that can't be sold in NC... |
| 23:39.41 | QBFreak | it seems to be common practice to run across the border when July comes :) |
| 23:40.06 | QBFreak | I bet |
| 23:40.16 | QBFreak | they're just subject to federal restrictions right? |
| 23:41.39 | QBFreak | hmm? |
| 23:45.38 | findlay | or only irc nicks allowed on the tag (: |
| 23:47.27 | mrpull- | http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1125 |
| 23:48.02 | lars-ut | brac, wake up! |
| 23:48.41 | QBFreak | test link http://qbfreak.net/ |
| 23:48.42 | brac | [QBFreak's Home Page] |
| 23:48.46 | QBFreak | weirdo |
| 23:49.16 | bonez39 | is there any room devoted to gpg/pgp usage? |
| 23:49.54 | bonez39 | I want to 1) find out how to PUBLISH my keys and 2) find out how to search for the keys of others to send them encrypted email |
| 23:50.11 | QBFreak | don't you love it when you're cleaning and you come across some screws that you know are somewhat important but have no idea what they're for |
| 23:50.17 | mheath | Heh, this tool is no good |
| 23:50.25 | mheath | Using a simple bittorrent tool for gnome |
| 23:50.36 | mheath | There was no download process for a long time, but it picked up again |
| 23:50.52 | mheath | So my elapsed time is 17 hours |
| 23:51.34 | findlay | www.google.com |
| 23:51.39 | mheath | Its time remaining calculation isn't smart enough to realize this.....so it thinks I have days left still, despite the fact that I'm downloading at a decent rate now |
| 23:51.54 | findlay | ibot: isn't that wierd? |
| 23:52.20 | findlay | two bots deaf and dumb |
| 23:55.04 | sjansen | bonez39: Check out seahorse, makes things much easier. |
| 23:55.21 | bonez39 | sjansen, thanks.. |
| 23:57.37 | *** join/#utah drewbono (n=andrew@128.187.140.93) |
