| 00:00.11 | Uncle_Jesse | http://www.myspace.com/metzener |
| 00:00.29 | Uncle_Jesse | they're pretty good too |
| 00:00.36 | maquis | Uncle_Jesse: what kinda music? |
| 00:00.54 | Uncle_Jesse | maquis: they're alternative |
| 00:01.01 | Uncle_Jesse | the myspace page has samples |
| 00:01.10 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm setting up their webpage right now which will have more |
| 00:01.36 | Uncle_Jesse | my brother's the curly-haired drum player |
| 00:01.50 | maquis | if that's on the section that needs a plugin, i'm not seeing it |
| 00:01.53 | Uncle_Jesse | maquis: it's the flash app that loads automatically when you go to the page |
| 00:02.03 | Uncle_Jesse | sorry - need flash |
| 00:02.15 | maquis | Uncle_Jesse: ah... sucky |
| 00:02.42 | sjansen | http://www.ps3today.com/Blogs/News/hqs/blr_1839.aspx |
| 00:02.51 | nick125_ | maquis: good luck with that..it mgiht take you a really long time :/ |
| 00:03.24 | Uncle_Jesse | maquis: you could just use linux ;-) |
| 00:04.30 | nick125_ | yup :) |
| 00:04.48 | maquis | nick125_: true |
| 00:04.52 | maquis | Uncle_Jesse: yeah... i know... |
| 00:05.01 | maquis | but i really like certain things about freebsd |
| 00:05.11 | nick125_ | ive tried getting it to work in freebsd before... |
| 00:05.47 | maquis | nick125_: yeah |
| 00:05.51 | tene | maquis: install linuxpluginwrapper and linux-flashplugin6 from ports, it seems |
| 00:07.21 | maquis | tene: tried that... didn't work on the first try, and i haven't had time to figure out why :) |
| 00:07.26 | findlay | why is there no gvim rpm for FC4? |
| 00:07.45 | Uncle_Jesse | maquis: you might like gentoo if you like freebsd |
| 00:07.46 | levi | findlay: Because you should be using emacs. ;) |
| 00:07.47 | Uncle_Jesse | so I hear |
| 00:08.00 | tene | findlay: vim-X11 |
| 00:08.06 | nick125_ | Uncle_Jesse: yeah..true :D |
| 00:08.14 | Uncle_Jesse | findlay: google it - some times I find stuff through google that I can't find through yum, rpmfind, or others |
| 00:08.26 | maquis | Uncle_Jesse: gentoo is my favorite linux distro, but it is somewhat of a pain to install |
| 00:08.31 | findlay | tene: why'd they do that?? |
| 00:08.32 | Uncle_Jesse | or what tene said |
| 00:08.50 | Uncle_Jesse | maquis: agreed, definitely |
| 00:08.56 | maquis | and it doesn't support the ideal package managemetn system that i thought up while using it, which it turns out freebsd already has |
| 00:13.27 | nick125_ | gah...im still waiting for gentoo to install in QEMU |
| 00:14.16 | levi | Why would you install gentoo in QEMU? |
| 00:14.55 | nick125_ | for testing purposes |
| 00:15.03 | nick125_ | to play around with Xen |
| 00:16.35 | levi | I hope you're installing binaries rather than doing one of those compile-everything installs. |
| 00:17.11 | nick125_ | stage 3 :p |
| 00:23.00 | emcnabb | I ran into someone from BYU today at Boeing |
| 00:23.20 | emcnabb | he was in the CS dept when I first got there |
| 00:23.28 | emcnabb | I thought, this guy looks familiar |
| 00:23.37 | emcnabb | he worked up in the graphics lab |
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| 00:24.20 | lars-ut | ~emulate gaz |
| 00:24.22 | ibot | He stole my GameSlave and now he's gonna pay. |
| 00:24.24 | sjansen | Carl Youngblood, perhaps? |
| 00:24.45 | emcnabb | no, it wasn't him |
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| 00:27.00 | dna3e8 | homestar runner podcst.... http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=122504753 |
| 00:27.01 | brac | [Loading iTunes Music Store] |
| 00:27.22 | lars-ut | looks like the 'free' server from VMWare is crippleware though - a timed BETA |
| 00:27.28 | sjansen | GnuCash released a new version? |
| 00:27.33 | sjansen | ?!!! |
| 00:27.35 | sjansen | !!! |
| 00:27.37 | findlay | ? |
| 00:27.38 | ScytheBlade1 | lars-ut, you can just modify the player. :) |
| 00:27.41 | emcnabb | sjansen: yeah, hell is freezing over |
| 00:27.53 | ScytheBlade1 | lars-ut, it has a few fun text files... just tell it to boot from CD |
| 00:27.56 | ScytheBlade1 | And tada |
| 00:28.04 | lars-ut | Trogdor! |
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| 00:28.38 | lars-ut | thx, ScytheBlade1. I'd read ealrier about creating images with QEMU as well I think... |
| 00:29.15 | emcnabb | it's boarding time |
| 00:29.19 | emcnabb | later |
| 00:29.21 | lars-ut | ~homestar |
| 00:29.28 | lars-ut | ~strongbad |
| 00:29.43 | lars-ut | -strongbad |
| 00:29.45 | dna3e8 | ~bunninator |
| 00:29.48 | lars-ut | lol |
| 00:30.07 | lars-ut | "thatched roofed cottages!" |
| 00:30.36 | tene | ~gir |
| 00:30.38 | ibot | rumour has it, gir is a very spiffy robot from Invader Zim. Perhaps you meant 'emulate gir'. |
| 00:30.44 | tene | ~emulate gir |
| 00:30.45 | ibot | i need tacos! i need tacos or i'll explode. that happens to me sometimes. |
| 00:30.56 | lars-ut | ~bill |
| 00:30.58 | ibot | somebody said bill was the CEO of Micro$oft. A billionare. |
| 00:31.06 | lars-ut | ~emulate bill |
| 00:31.08 | ibot | I've been following the Cocofang case for years. Everybody thinks he's made-up, but he's not. Once I catch him, the world will know what I've known all along! Count Cocofang is an actual vampire, just as Frankenchokey is an actual franken... thing! |
| 00:31.16 | lars-ut | looks like there are 2 Bills |
| 00:32.18 | lars-ut | one from the world of Zim, and some other one. |
| 00:32.18 | findlay | there are $2 bills??!!@! |
| 00:32.18 | lars-ut | not lights... |
| 00:32.18 | tene | findlay: yeah, there have been for years. |
| 00:32.18 | lars-ut | & not $3 bills. |
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| 00:32.39 | maquis | i had one a month ago or so... |
| 00:32.41 | maquis | and then i spent it |
| 00:32.56 | maquis | i wouldn't be overly surprised if some places turned them away, though |
| 00:33.29 | lars-ut | but I prefer the sack-uh-juh-wee-uh pronunciation |
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| 00:41.01 | lars-ut | ~emulate dib |
| 00:41.02 | ibot | See Gaz, to defeat my enemy I must study my enemy, then become my enemy, then move in with my enemy, then wear my enemies clothes, then... |
| 00:41.32 | lars-ut | ~emulate dib |
| 00:41.34 | ibot | See Gaz, to defeat my enemy I must study my enemy, then become my enemy, then move in with my enemy, then wear my enemies clothes, then... |
| 00:41.46 | lars-ut | ~smack ibot |
| 00:41.47 | ibot | ACTION smacks ibot upside the head. |
| 00:42.00 | findlay | ~slap ibot |
| 00:42.01 | ibot | ACTION slaps ibot, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 00:42.24 | lars-ut | ~literal emulate dib |
| 00:42.25 | ibot | "emulate dib" is "<reply> I'm delicious! No one should be this delicious! || <reply> Oh you're just *begging* to face the MOOSE.||<reply>See Gaz, to defeat my enemy I must study my enemy, then become my enemy, then move in with my enemy, then wear my enemies clothes, then..." |
| 00:45.43 | nick125_ | allofmp3 rocks...i just wish i had some money there though :p |
| 00:46.26 | bonez39 | anyone using OO2 know if the Thesaurus or Help files are available yet, for sarge? |
| 00:55.01 | findlay | bonez39: strange if they aren't |
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| 01:24.01 | maquis | Fatal Error: Cannot connect to database, Sql server is not running. Please contact the administrator |
| 01:24.09 | maquis | that's a fun error message |
| 01:25.55 | nick125_ | this gentoo install might finish emerge --sync'ing sometime this week!! it looks promising.. |
| 01:27.31 | nick125_ | maquis: can you find mine too? |
| 01:27.43 | maquis | nope...i sat down again |
| 01:27.46 | nick125_ | since your becoming pro at it :D |
| 01:32.32 | nick125 | i wonder if its bad to get 2.25ms latency between two xen boxes on the same machine |
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| 01:51.55 | QBFreak | anyone here ever played with Hamachi? |
| 01:53.11 | tene | dunno what it is |
| 01:53.50 | QBFreak | "With Hamachi you can organize two or more computers with an Internet connection into their own virtual network for direct secure communication. " |
| 01:53.59 | QBFreak | "Think - Zero-configuration VPN." |
| 01:54.23 | QBFreak | http://www.hamachi.cc/ |
| 01:54.24 | brac | [Hamachi : Stay Connected] |
| 01:55.29 | QBFreak | basically they want some sort of way to get in to the network where my dad works from the outside, however the email system will kick them all off if it detects any ports open on the router each time a client connects |
| 01:55.41 | elg | could be cool, could be a marketroid face slapped on a bunch of half-baked technology |
| 01:55.56 | QBFreak | other people seem to have had success with it |
| 01:56.20 | QBFreak | the problem we're having is all the machines at work can't contact the machines at home |
| 01:56.29 | elg | it's so web 2.0 I have a hard time looking into it |
| 01:56.32 | nick125 | wewt...the xen livecd is fun :D |
| 01:56.44 | QBFreak | heh... |
| 01:56.58 | tene | Cubey: clarify "if it detects open ports on the router"? |
| 01:57.37 | QBFreak | each time a user at the office starts up their VPN stuff to connect to corporate for email, the server scans the source IP for incoming ports that are open |
| 01:58.15 | tene | so it scans boxes at the office or boxes a thomes? |
| 01:58.26 | tene | at homes, even |
| 01:58.27 | QBFreak | either, wherever you connect from |
| 01:58.38 | QBFreak | but mainly the issue is the box at the office |
| 01:58.52 | tene | Why does it do that? |
| 01:58.56 | QBFreak | security |
| 01:59.01 | tene | how is that security? |
| 01:59.11 | QBFreak | dunno, hafta ask a PHB :) |
| 01:59.49 | tene | also, you could just have the firewall drop connections from the email server IP |
| 02:02.23 | QBFreak | not sure if it can, its just a Linksys |
| 02:02.50 | tene | modify the firewall on the email system to drop outgoing connections to the home boxes? |
| 02:02.53 | tene | >.> |
| 02:03.07 | QBFreak | ah yes, lets hack corporate Kodak's email server... |
| 02:04.33 | tene | yay! |
| 02:05.18 | tene | well |
| 02:05.29 | tene | what you could do is run a vpn server at the office |
| 02:05.36 | tene | and have everyone make outbound connections to it |
| 02:16.45 | QBFreak | I see why you were asking what got scanned... |
| 02:16.54 | QBFreak | the issue is we can't open anything at the office |
| 02:17.07 | QBFreak | if we do, then we can't connect to corporate |
| 02:18.41 | QBFreak | the thing with Hamachi is that you connect the machines to their server, and then they somehow use those open connections (all UDP, so not connections per-se) to go staright from one machine to another, not sendign data through their server |
| 02:19.56 | QBFreak | I can join the Hamachi 'network' started at work, but all the machines there are unreachable |
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| 02:20.16 | sjansen | ~lart Stupid Web developers |
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| 02:44.15 | findlay | ~compliment Intelligent Web developers |
| 02:44.18 | ibot | ACTION compliments Intelligent Web developers for findlay |
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| 02:56.39 | jsmith | ~onjoin jsmith |
| 02:56.39 | ibot | onjoin for jsmith set by lars-ut on Tue Feb 7 09:42:44 2006: Hello Asterisk guy! |
| 03:02.19 | QBFreak | nobody has used their onjoin to set someone elses yet? :) or does the bot ignore himself? |
| 03:03.30 | jsmith | Not sure... |
| 03:04.13 | QBFreak | ~onjoin QBFreak ~onjoin QBFreak something else |
| 03:04.13 | ibot | ok, QBFreak |
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| 03:04.21 | findlay | ibot: do you ignore ibot? |
| 03:04.23 | ibot | yes, I ignore ibot. |
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| 03:04.33 | QBFreak | alas |
| 03:04.43 | QBFreak | ~onjoin QBFreak |
| 03:04.43 | ibot | onjoin for qbfreak set by qbfreak on Thu Feb 9 20:04:13 2006: ~onjoin QBFreak something else |
| 03:04.57 | QBFreak | hmm, how do we clear it... |
| 03:05.02 | ScytheBlade1 | -onjoin |
| 03:05.10 | QBFreak | ah |
| 03:05.14 | QBFreak | -onjoin QBFreak |
| 03:05.21 | QBFreak | or not? |
| 03:05.25 | QBFreak | ~onjoin QBFreak |
| 03:05.25 | ibot | onjoin for qbfreak set by qbfreak on Thu Feb 9 20:04:13 2006: ~onjoin QBFreak something else |
| 03:05.40 | findlay | ~onjoin QBFreak _ |
| 03:05.40 | ibot | findlay: ok |
| 03:05.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ibot: -onjoin QBFreak |
| 03:05.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ibot: help |
| 03:05.52 | findlay | ~onjoin QBFreak |
| 03:05.52 | ibot | onjoin for qbfreak set by findlay on Thu Feb 9 20:05:40 2006: _ |
| 03:06.18 | ScytheBlade1 | <ibot> Usage: onjoin [chan] [-]<nick> [message] |
| 03:06.26 | QBFreak | ~onjoin -QBFreak |
| 03:06.26 | ibot | ok, QBFreak |
| 03:06.50 | QBFreak | it was an interesting idea at least :) |
| 03:17.20 | findlay | I confess, I'm a groklaw addict |
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| 03:18.51 | maquis | er |
| 03:18.52 | maquis | | |
| 03:19.06 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.13 | findlay | - |
| 03:19.24 | elg | anyone know how to get a running azureus to start a torrent over ssh? (if possible) |
| 03:19.40 | Hhhhh | i'm bored |
| 03:19.44 | Hhhhh | someone amuse me |
| 03:19.49 | Hhhhh | or I'll start a flame war |
| 03:19.51 | findlay | ~amuse Hhhhh |
| 03:20.09 | QBFreak | 95! |
| 03:20.14 | Hhhhh | lol |
| 03:20.23 | findlay | Hhhhh: that could be fun. Lets brainstorm for topics by flammability |
| 03:20.49 | Hhhhh | one of my favs: OpenSource vs Freak Software Foundation |
| 03:21.14 | Hhhhh | and Richard "Grizzly Adams" Stallman |
| 03:22.09 | Hhhhh | or GPL vs LGPL |
| 03:22.23 | Hhhhh | or KDE vs G(ay)NOME |
| 03:22.53 | Hhhhh | ...vs XXXFCE vs Fool'sBox |
| 03:22.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ G(ay)NOME |
| 03:23.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm inclined to agree ;) |
| 03:23.12 | Hhhhh | ...vs Endarkening |
| 03:23.27 | Hhhhh | and all the bastard sons of Fool'sBox |
| 03:24.00 | findlay | *WM clones |
| 03:24.19 | findlay | die CTWM, die! |
| 03:24.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:24.26 | Hhhhh | according to Scandinavian mythology, gnomes were a kind of troll (LOL) |
| 03:24.50 | Hhhhh | and they still are |
| 03:25.31 | findlay | the only think I have noticed having switched to X11R7 is that the fonts have chenged slightly again |
| 03:25.57 | findlay | it seems that the fonts always change in wierd ways between versions |
| 03:26.14 | Hhhhh | or SUSE vs Fedora vs Ricetoo vs Devian(t) vs Wankware vs Dumbuntu |
| 03:26.44 | ScytheBlade1 | "Ricetoo" |
| 03:26.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I like |
| 03:27.00 | findlay | Megasquash Windblows |
| 03:27.40 | findlay | netscrape vs Internet Exploder |
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| 03:27.52 | Hhhhh | vs Flamefox |
| 03:27.58 | findlay | no, Internet Exploit |
| 03:28.10 | Hhhhh | lol |
| 03:28.22 | Hhhhh | I like Exploder better |
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| 03:29.15 | maquis | there are a couple websites where you can see some arguments as to whether ie or firefox is better... pretty much, it's some stupid guy arguing that he didn't say stuff he did say, and other such stuff |
| 03:29.53 | Hhhhh | Firefox has cooler features and it's more secure, IE is faster |
| 03:30.03 | Hhhhh | that's pretty much all there is to it for advantages |
| 03:30.05 | findlay | i e, it's a lot of stuff |
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| 03:41.08 | jsmith | ~onjoin -jsmith |
| 03:41.08 | ibot | ok, jsmith |
| 03:41.25 | findlay | ~offsplit |
| 04:25.15 | dilvie | New knobtweakers site is almost ready for launch... yay! |
| 04:25.16 | dilvie | http://kt20.blogspot.com/ |
| 04:25.19 | dilvie | feedback please! |
| 04:25.21 | brac | [Knobtweakers: Free Electronic Music Community] |
| 04:26.51 | nick125_ | i found a datacenter that requires a $500 security deposit if you want to host IRC on their servers |
| 04:28.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Here's a good question: how do you undo in vim? |
| 04:29.14 | goozbach | u |
| 04:29.14 | goozbach | <ctrl>-r is redo |
| 04:29.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
| 04:29.14 | goozbach | (in command mode of course) |
| 04:29.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 04:29.38 | QBFreak | the other option is :!q but I bet you don't like that one :) |
| 04:29.44 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:29.48 | ScytheBlade1 | No, but it's what I used before ;) |
| 04:30.18 | QBFreak | I tend to save very often, its a nervous habit from having Word/Win98 eat papers |
| 04:30.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:30.46 | QBFreak | I once got so fed up with it that I got out my KayPro 2X and used Wordstar in CP/M |
| 04:30.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, also |
| 04:30.56 | ScytheBlade1 | search/replace? |
| 04:31.08 | QBFreak | :s/from/to/ |
| 04:31.19 | QBFreak | :%s/from/to/ if you want the whole file not jsut current line |
| 04:31.34 | QBFreak | and of course the g on the end if more than the first occurance in a line |
| 04:33.01 | QBFreak | some people think I'm crazy to use it, but I like it :) |
| 04:33.38 | QBFreak | I use it because I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to close emacs |
| 04:33.54 | QBFreak | for all my trying to do anything in VIM I eventually stumbled into the help and that told me how to close it |
| 04:34.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:34.40 | goozbach | ScytheBlade1: http://blogs.gurulabs.com/derek/archives/2005/10/vim_freebies.html |
| 04:34.43 | brac | [goozbach's Techtips: VIM freebies] |
| 04:34.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Buhahahaha |
| 04:34.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I so just replaced all of apache's retarded spaces with tabs in httpd.conf |
| 04:35.37 | ScytheBlade1 | That's rather nice goozbach |
| 04:36.00 | goozbach | I got tired of having to tell students how to edit a file in vi :) |
| 04:36.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:36.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't say I blame you |
| 04:36.32 | ScytheBlade1 | "Basicly it's the commands you can use to move in specific directions." |
| 04:36.37 | ScytheBlade1 | s/Basicly/Basically/ |
| 04:37.13 | QBFreak | it would appear I won a new cellphone |
| 04:37.19 | QBFreak | my question is, does it ring? |
| 04:37.52 | goozbach | ScytheBlade1: grab the cheat sheet that I link to in that post |
| 04:37.58 | QBFreak | I don't want it to play music when people call, I want it to ring! |
| 04:38.03 | nick125_ | QBFreak: lol |
| 04:38.19 | goozbach | it's mucho goodo for those "how do I?" questions |
| 04:38.32 | goozbach | and best of all it's GPL |
| 04:38.38 | QBFreak | there's a reason I have a phone that you can't even get parts for from Verizon... |
| 04:39.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh |
| 04:39.04 | ScytheBlade1 | That's nicer |
| 04:39.10 | QBFreak | cause it rings! |
| 04:39.38 | QBFreak | the phone my mom has doesn't come with any ringtones that remotely resemble a ringer |
| 04:40.06 | QBFreak | I want one that sounds like a cell phone on TV, in most shows (at least the ones I watch) they don't play music unless its important to the plot |
| 04:41.15 | ScytheBlade1 | You've cursed yourself and everyone in the world now with that statement |
| 04:41.32 | QBFreak | hmm? |
| 04:41.34 | ScytheBlade1 | All the phones in any form of media will now play music, and only ring if it is important towards the plot :/ |
| 04:41.46 | QBFreak | it was gonna happen anyway |
| 04:42.18 | tene | Cubey: seen Final Fantasy Advent Children? |
| 04:42.26 | QBFreak | nope |
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| 04:43.09 | QBFreak | in general, if its a movie or on cable there's a good chance I've never seen it |
| 04:46.25 | QBFreak | why do you ask? |
| 04:48.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey, look at that, my apache 2.2 config is 1.5 pages long |
| 04:48.31 | ScytheBlade1 | mmm, simplistic config |
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| 04:50.31 | tene | Cubey: because a character in there uses the "Victory Song" for their ringtone and recieves a call right after being defeated in a fight. |
| 04:50.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, that's right |
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| 05:09.08 | QBFreak | tene: ah heh |
| 05:09.52 | tene | So he crashes into the ground and then you hear the start of the victory song and then you hear it again and then the guy gets up out of the ground and answers his cellfone. |
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| 05:15.03 | goozbach | note to self: turning on the stove is one crutial step to boiling water |
| 05:15.21 | goozbach | and without boiling water you don't get good tea |
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| 05:44.51 | dilvie | =) |
| 05:52.04 | maquis | Grr! |
| 05:52.12 | maquis | it didn't work |
| 05:52.42 | maquis | i've got a diskimage that claims to have 1.4 MB of space available |
| 05:53.02 | maquis | i've got stuffit expander and the hqx file i want to expand on another diskimage |
| 05:53.30 | maquis | i can run stuffit expander and everything, but when i tell it to save to the empty disk image, it just fails silently |
| 05:58.13 | levi | maquis: What are you playing with? |
| 05:58.20 | maquis | minivmac |
| 05:58.29 | maquis | i want to get dark castle running |
| 05:58.47 | drewbono | dark castle rules |
| 05:58.58 | drewbono | reminds me of my good 'ol 128k Mac |
| 05:59.04 | drewbono | and loderunner |
| 05:59.11 | drewbono | ahhh...those were the days |
| 06:00.03 | drewbono | maquis: You sure the disk image is writable? |
| 06:02.50 | maquis | drewbono: should be... i'm trying a different way, now |
| 06:03.58 | drewbono | just expand it on the desktop and see if you can drag it to the disk image |
| 06:04.14 | maquis | drewbono: been trying... it won't do *anything* |
| 06:04.32 | maquis | i just got a blank disk image that's supposed to be writable, and not having any luck with that either |
| 06:04.56 | maquis | ooh |
| 06:05.11 | maquis | note to self... initializing the disk makes it go away |
| 06:05.21 | drewbono | lol |
| 06:05.23 | drewbono | Nice. |
| 06:05.45 | drewbono | so you just made a new disk image using Disk Utility and it won't let you drag anything to it? |
| 06:06.02 | drewbono | I assume you've mounted the image as well (had to ask :)) |
| 06:06.09 | maquis | no... using a disk provided by the vMac people |
| 06:07.04 | maquis | i can drag stuff to it |
| 06:07.25 | drewbono | and it copies it into the image? |
| 06:07.43 | maquis | i think so |
| 06:07.53 | maquis | i can't get stuffit expander to work, though |
| 06:08.02 | maquis | i'm hoping it's not the same reason that i'm trying to do this the hackish way anyways |
| 06:08.33 | maquis | (stuffit for linux seg-faults, and hexbin says that htere's an unexpected EOF..) |
| 06:08.41 | maquis | it's not giving any errors, though |
| 06:10.21 | maquis | it saved to the disk |
| 06:10.37 | maquis | it didn't expand, but it did actually save to the disk |
| 06:10.48 | maquis | (i verified by mounting the disk -t hfs on linux) |
| 06:12.23 | maquis | wow |
| 06:12.27 | maquis | i just got stuffit to work! |
| 06:16.44 | dilvie | The new Knobtweakers event page is live: http://www.knobtweakers.net/events/ |
| 06:21.30 | QBFreak | http://acarol.woz.org/ |
| 06:21.32 | brac | [LEGO Technic Difference Engine] |
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| 06:31.14 | nick125_ | *BLINKS* |
| 06:31.23 | nick125_ | i think xen-sources just installed 890 kernel modules |
| 06:31.44 | maquis | ok... so, now i can get that, but i can't get it to be small enough for system 6 to recognize it |
| 07:01.30 | mheath | nick125_: Wow. |
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| 07:28.40 | QBFreak | you all will call me crazy for using a CB wont you? |
| 07:31.17 | nick125_ | lol |
| 07:31.56 | QBFreak | freakin Radio Shack 'quick start guide' sort of thing says that Channels 9 and 19 are for emergency/morotist assistance only |
| 07:32.03 | QBFreak | last I checked the FCC regs it was only channel 9 |
| 07:34.32 | nick125_ | grr |
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| 08:07.17 | ctr | oops :( Stupid microwave |
| 08:13.20 | Hhhhh | IT'S THE MICROWAVE THAT'S STUPID, NOT YOU, RIGHT? |
| 08:13.26 | Hhhhh | j/k ;) |
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| 14:12.51 | mheath | i feel horrible but my dad figures I'm pretending to be sick =\ |
| 14:16.50 | lars-ut | "The key to faking out the parents is the clammy hands. It's a good non-specific symptom. I'm a big believer in it. A lot of people will tell you a good phoney fever is a deadlock, but you get a nervous mother, you could wind up in a doctor's office--that's worse than school. You fake a stomach cramp, and when you're bent over, moaning and wailing, you lick your palms. It's a little childish and stupid, but then so is high school." |
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| 15:37.38 | lars-ut | -urls #utah |
| 15:37.38 | brac | incorrect usage, ask for help using 'brac: help urls' |
| 15:37.45 | lars-ut | -urls |
| 15:37.45 | brac | [2006/02/09 23:21:32] <QBFreak> http://acarol.woz.org/ |
| 15:37.45 | brac | [2006/02/09 23:16:46] <dilvie> http://www.knobtweakers.net/events/ |
| 15:37.45 | brac | [2006/02/09 21:34:43] <goozbach> http://blogs.gurulabs.com/derek/archives/2005/10/vim_freebies.html |
| 15:37.45 | brac | [2006/02/09 21:25:20] <dilvie> http://kt20.blogspot.com/ |
| 15:38.44 | lars-ut | -urls 20 |
| 15:38.45 | brac | [2006/02/09 23:21:32] <QBFreak> http://acarol.woz.org/ |
| 15:38.45 | brac | [2006/02/09 23:16:46] <dilvie> http://www.knobtweakers.net/events/ |
| 15:38.45 | brac | [2006/02/09 21:34:43] <goozbach> http://blogs.gurulabs.com/derek/archives/2005/10/vim_freebies.html |
| 15:38.45 | brac | [2006/02/09 21:25:20] <dilvie> http://kt20.blogspot.com/ |
| 15:38.47 | brac | [2006/02/09 17:27:00] <dna3e8> http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=122504753 |
| 15:38.47 | brac | [2006/02/09 17:26:24] <lars-ut> http://download3.vmware.com/software/vmplayer/VMware-player-1.0.1-19317.exe' |
| 15:38.49 | brac | [2006/02/09 17:02:44] <sjansen> http://www.ps3today.com/Blogs/News/hqs/blr_1839.aspx |
| 15:38.51 | brac | [2006/02/09 17:00:18] <Uncle_Jesse> http://www.myspace.com/metzener |
| 15:38.53 | brac | [2006/02/09 16:47:20] <lars-ut> http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-7597_7-0.html?forumID=41&messageID=1708660&threadID=153671 |
| 15:38.56 | brac | [2006/02/09 16:32:40] <maquis> http://www.mouse.com/ |
| 15:39.29 | lars-ut | nice. |
| 15:46.08 | ctr_ | that is nice |
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| 16:02.40 | xbmodder_ | oh god thata was bad |
| 16:02.45 | xbmodder_ | bad bad bad! |
| 16:12.04 | tene | ?? |
| 16:13.22 | xbmodder_ | ~rlart |
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| 16:16.06 | phinux | Does this mean I'm on the moon now? Wee! bounce bounce bounce! |
| 16:16.52 | xbmodder_ | ~lart things |
| 16:17.11 | xbmodder_ | What is a good platform for an ultra-cheap reliable server? |
| 16:19.55 | ctr_ | openbsd or plan9 |
| 16:20.02 | ctr_ | openbsd, preferably |
| 16:23.51 | xbmodder_ | hardware platform |
| 16:24.08 | findlay | TI-82 |
| 16:24.12 | ctr_ | it's true |
| 16:24.27 | tene | I'm a fan of racks, but in many cases a Shelf will work perfectly. |
| 16:25.04 | xbmodder_ | tene: what server? |
| 16:25.06 | xbmodder_ | what company |
| 16:25.08 | ctr_ | < tene> I'm a fan of racks |
| 16:25.11 | xbmodder_ | don't say sun. |
| 16:25.13 | ctr_ | hahahahahahah |
| 16:25.21 | tene | I've been known to use the floor, but that increases the chance of water damage. |
| 16:25.41 | tene | if you're in a basement. |
| 16:26.20 | tene | xbm: you can build a shelf yourself. Just go to the hardware store and buy some wood and screws. |
| 16:26.27 | ctr_ | xbmodder_: if you want the truth dude, the dell stuff is always worth the price |
| 16:27.27 | xbmodder_ | ergh |
| 16:28.24 | xbmodder_ | What should I go with for a Dedicated? |
| 16:28.24 | xbmodder_ | I don't like paying for b/w |
| 16:29.28 | xbmodder_ | so preferably unmetered |
| 16:32.49 | Lone_Wanderer | It's hard to find dedicated unmetered servers. |
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| 16:33.36 | ctr_ | xbmodder_: i'd just suggest haxoring the gibson (aka a local university) and piggybacking their space/hardware and or bandwidth |
| 16:34.08 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah that's a fantastic ide |
| 16:34.10 | Lone_Wanderer | a |
| 16:36.28 | xbmodder_ | lol. |
| 16:36.42 | xbmodder_ | ctr_: finally an idea worse than mine :0 |
| 16:36.51 | ctr_ | hahaha, well I do what I can |
| 16:38.04 | Lone_Wanderer | If I'm developing a language that's going to be released (eventually) in more than one language, what's the best way to handle the multiple languages? Just have a different copy of everything in the other language? |
| 16:38.06 | Lone_Wanderer | a site, not a language |
| 16:38.14 | ctr_ | xbmodder_: it's actually not that hard to find unmetered connections for a dedicated hosting service |
| 16:38.23 | ctr_ | xbmodder_: i just don't know who to suggest :-( |
| 16:39.24 | xbmodder_ | ctr_: suggest someone who is cheap and with a loose terms of service |
| 16:39.41 | Lone_Wanderer | Your own DSL connection, with a static IP. |
| 16:39.52 | ctr_ | yeah, I mean, if you can do that yourself, your rockin |
| 16:39.58 | xbmodder_ | Lone_Wanderer: err... problems there |
| 16:40.11 | Lone_Wanderer | No worse than you'd have with a cheap hosting provider. |
| 16:40.12 | xbmodder_ | not enough b/w and hardware is all dead |
| 16:40.30 | findlay | if nobody pays the patent trolls, maybe they will fade away, like SCO |
| 16:40.38 | ctr_ | hahaha |
| 16:40.43 | ctr_ | let's dub that teh sco condition |
| 16:40.47 | Lone_Wanderer | I stand by my original statement, xbmodder_ |
| 16:40.47 | ctr_ | or condition: sco |
| 16:41.04 | ctr_ | xbmodder_: I'd use google |
| 16:41.13 | ctr_ | spend ten minutes and look at the options |
| 16:42.33 | xbmodder_ | ok |
| 16:42.34 | xbmodder_ | :-/ |
| 16:43.10 | ctr_ | sorry man :-( I don't have any options to throw your way cause I haven't ever had to find that type of solution |
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| 16:47.34 | findlay | ouch |
| 16:48.09 | ctr_ | man that's rough |
| 16:57.18 | findlay | sjansen: have you been listening to too much Mahler? |
| 16:57.43 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.12 | sjansen | Now if only I could have missed New Kids, 'N Sync, etc. |
| 16:58.31 | sjansen | ... At least I missed Titanic. |
| 17:00.59 | ctr_ | rofl |
| 17:01.06 | ctr_ | titanic man... |
| 17:01.20 | ctr_ | give me your address and I'll mail you the special edition dvd |
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| 17:09.50 | mrpull- | heh... only on a utah mailing list would you see "WTFlip" |
| 17:09.54 | mrpull- | awesome |
| 17:19.18 | goozbach | Lone_Wanderer: html.var |
| 17:19.26 | goozbach | apache multi-lang system |
| 17:19.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Eh? |
| 17:19.31 | Lone_Wanderer | oh |
| 17:19.37 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
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| 17:19.58 | ctr_ | lame gaim, core dumps like once a day on openbsd |
| 17:20.03 | ctr_ | just a note for all you peeps |
| 17:25.09 | goozbach | Lone_Wanderer: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/content-negotiation.html |
| 17:25.12 | emcnabb | morning all |
| 17:25.20 | goozbach | ~punch emcnabb |
| 17:25.21 | ibot | ACTION hits emcnabb like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist |
| 17:25.32 | goozbach | ~ghosthack maquis |
| 17:25.33 | ibot | ACTION plugs into maquis's cyberbrain and gets busy |
| 17:26.14 | ctr_ | mmmmmm |
| 17:26.23 | ctr_ | he's getting busy with a brain |
| 17:26.26 | ctr_ | that's hot |
| 17:29.41 | sjansen | ~bite emcnabb |
| 17:29.43 | ibot | ACTION takes a big bite out of emcnabb's jugular vein |
| 17:30.26 | Lone_Wanderer | ~brutally_slay everyone |
| 17:30.31 | Lone_Wanderer | Drat. |
| 17:32.08 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 17:36.44 | findlay | ~do nothing |
| 17:36.45 | ibot | ACTION does nothing. |
| 17:37.43 | Lone_Wanderer | ~do eat robust Phillistines gallantly |
| 17:37.45 | ibot | ACTION does eat robust Phillistines gallantly. |
| 17:38.07 | findlay | ~don't do that |
| 17:38.24 | findlay | ~darn |
| 17:38.26 | Lone_Wanderer | ~do eat robust Phillistines gallantly |
| 17:38.28 | ibot | ACTION does eat robust Phillistines gallantly. |
| 17:38.31 | Lone_Wanderer | (to see if he'll know not to do it) |
| 17:38.33 | Lone_Wanderer | oh well |
| 17:39.34 | findlay | ~from now on every remark I commit to IRC will be prepended with a ~ |
| 17:39.50 | findlay | ~for the benefit of random ibot interjections |
| 17:40.31 | findlay | ~if nothing happens, at least I've wasted some extra cycles on one of TimRiker's servers |
| 17:40.55 | Jayce^ | there's a good idea, let's waste the Op's resources.. |
| 17:41.06 | Jayce^ | especially when said bot runs so many other channels :) |
| 17:44.44 | sjansen | ~op Jayce^ |
| 17:44.52 | sjansen | ~waste Jayce^ |
| 17:45.31 | Jayce^ | ~beat sjansen |
| 17:45.32 | ibot | ACTION beats sjansen with a large stick. |
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| 17:55.52 | flyboy^ | jsmith: Hey there. Things going well? |
| 17:59.14 | sjansen | http://blogs.siliconvalley.com/gmsv/2006/02/quoted_8.html |
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| 18:18.56 | Uncle_Jesse | jsmith: ping |
| 18:33.35 | emcnabb | From jsmith icmp_seq=0 Destination Host Unreachable |
| 18:34.52 | sjansen | ~ifdown emcnabb |
| 18:37.10 | goozbach | iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --owner emcnabb -j DROP |
| 18:43.26 | sjansen | heh, how apropos |
| 18:46.07 | goozbach | I just got done demoing iptables I thought that was appropiate |
| 18:47.32 | goozbach | Jayce^: got your ears on? |
| 18:47.58 | Jayce^ | yup, the kid hasn't fully ripped them off yet |
| 18:48.31 | nick125_ | gah |
| 18:49.55 | nick125_ | why am i getting a feeling in the 890 kernel modules is where the ext3 support is |
| 18:50.46 | Jayce^ | ~lart sjansen for emailing a 'heh' response |
| 18:51.13 | findlay | yeah, and trailing all those footers as well |
| 18:55.56 | lars-ut | xbmodder: suggestions on sites for purchasing Xbox mod parts? |
| 18:56.30 | lars-ut | my buddy wants to bump up the hard drive, play games off it, and tinker with Myth on it |
| 18:56.49 | lars-ut | "my buddy" - sounds real convincing. |
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| 18:58.10 | lars-ut | -lart xbmodder for not paying attention |
| 18:58.24 | nick125 | lars-ut: hes probably not here.. |
| 18:58.50 | lars-ut | nick125 - I can pm him though |
| 18:59.13 | nick125 | lars-ut: that works |
| 18:59.17 | lars-ut | must be away - but not set to away in nick or status |
| 18:59.44 | nick125 | im pretty sure he isnt on at the moment |
| 18:59.53 | lars-ut | thx |
| 19:01.55 | nick125_ | damnit! |
| 19:02.02 | nick125_ | thats why it wasnt booting (i bet) |
| 19:02.11 | nick125_ | stupid xen-sources default kernel config |
| 19:02.19 | nick125_ | it has ext3 support as a module |
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| 19:07.14 | emcnabb | goozbach, sjansen: is this pick on emcnabb day? |
| 19:10.07 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
| 19:14.35 | mheath | lars-ut-away: Thanks for the advice on faking sickness, but the thing is I *am* sick. My dad just doesn't believe me. |
| 19:15.31 | mheath | or, he didn't. I'm not sure where he is. |
| 19:15.50 | mheath | He left to go on his walk earlier this morning....I fell asleep halfway through getting dressed. |
| 19:24.31 | RyanE | mheath: his 'advice' was actually a quote from "Ferris Bueller's Day Off". |
| 19:25.18 | mheath | I think my dad might have thought I was hungover, actually. Heh. |
| 19:25.48 | mheath | I was over at my brothers last night, who drinks quite a bit and is somewhat into (some) drugs. "What were you doing at your brothers last night?!" |
| 19:30.45 | lars-ut | that complicates things a bit |
| 19:30.56 | ctr_ | mheath: you need to lay off the drugs |
| 19:30.59 | ctr_ | that's all I know |
| 19:31.33 | Lone_Wanderer | Unless they're prescribed to you. |
| 19:31.43 | Lone_Wanderer | If they're prescribed to you, then you should keep taking them. |
| 19:31.50 | ctr_ | not necessarily. |
| 19:31.58 | ctr_ | What if the prescription isn't legit |
| 19:32.00 | lars-ut | mheath: offer your Dad a voluntary drug screen if there's a trust issue - then he might even let you skip school when you're not sick |
| 19:32.10 | Lone_Wanderer | Does anyone know if it's illegal, or could be considered harrasment, to sign someone else's email up for porn? |
| 19:32.26 | ctr_ | it's harrasment |
| 19:32.33 | ctr_ | but I don't think there's any legal grounds there |
| 19:32.38 | RyanE | if it's a co-worker, you could be sued for sexual harrassment. |
| 19:32.45 | RyanE | (in the workplace) |
| 19:32.51 | Lone_Wanderer | It's not. |
| 19:33.14 | RyanE | still, not advisable. |
| 19:33.14 | Lone_Wanderer | I responded to this guy's job posting suggesting that he might reconsider a few things |
| 19:33.53 | mheath | ctr_: I do not do drugs. Reread what I said. |
| 19:33.55 | Lone_Wanderer | and in about two minutes I had "You've been signed up for free porn! Here's the originating IP address: xx.xx.xx.xx" |
| 19:34.01 | ctr_ | mheath: i was kidding buddy |
| 19:34.08 | lars-ut | Lone_Wanderer: besides, those African money scam spams are much more annoying - the images will be blocked in the others. |
| 19:34.41 | Lone_Wanderer | I decided to see if there was a web server at that IP. There is, and the favicon is the same as the web site for the company in question. So I'm reasonably sure it's the same guy. |
| 19:35.19 | ctr_ | Lone_Wanderer: test it out on me please |
| 19:35.24 | ctr_ | i dont get enough pron spam |
| 19:35.33 | Lone_Wanderer | No thanks :p |
| 19:35.48 | Lone_Wanderer | Why, does ctr stand for Cory ____ Robin? |
| 19:35.59 | RyanE | Lone_Wanderer: maybe his computer has a virus... Once your email hits his system, it could spam you. |
| 19:36.13 | RyanE | so it might not be malicious. |
| 19:36.17 | Lone_Wanderer | That could be it. |
| 19:36.25 | RyanE | did you give him reason to 'retaliate'? |
| 19:36.36 | lars-ut | sounds like an opportunity for consulting |
| 19:36.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, I kind of suggested that competing with Orbitz might not be the best business move. |
| 19:36.46 | RyanE | hehe |
| 19:36.56 | ctr_ | ctr is chooooooooooseee theeeeee rriiiiiiiight |
| 19:36.57 | Lone_Wanderer | And that he might want to consider using a language other than Java. |
| 19:37.13 | RyanE | there's always room for competition in a market, though, and believe it or not, people *can* make useful software in Java. |
| 19:37.30 | RyanE | I can't, but I don't discount the fact that it's possible. :) |
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| 19:37.56 | ctr_ | RyanE: it's true.. look at zend |
| 19:38.01 | ctr_ | that's java, right? |
| 19:38.06 | ctr_ | and it's effing pee eye em pee |
| 19:38.12 | ctr_ | if you ask me |
| 19:40.04 | ctr_ | I guess there are none who would agree |
| 19:40.07 | ctr_ | so that's my cue |
| 19:41.12 | Lone_Wanderer | Heh I just got a call from him. |
| 19:41.31 | Lone_Wanderer | and it *was* a computer virus |
| 19:43.49 | emcnabb | :-( |
| 19:46.36 | maquis | emcnabb: you just need to designate some days as pick on sjansen days |
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| 19:48.21 | maquis | dilvie: you're letting the cold air in! |
| 19:49.00 | dilvie | maquis: sorry about that. |
| 19:49.32 | maquis | dilvie: :) |
| 19:50.15 | nick125_ | lol |
| 19:50.33 | maquis | ZIPES!!! |
| 19:59.53 | maquis | sjansen: where have you been? |
| 19:59.54 | RyanE | sjansen: it's always near 0. |
| 20:02.38 | goozbach | sjansen: from where/ |
| 20:02.41 | goozbach | er where? |
| 20:03.45 | sjansen | I'm in Phoenix. My flight is for 5:10. The exam ends at 3:38. |
| 20:04.44 | goozbach | pho is usually good to go |
| 20:04.51 | goozbach | flying delta? |
| 20:04.54 | sjansen | yup |
| 20:04.59 | goozbach | you should be good |
| 20:05.04 | goozbach | there's a 7pm as well |
| 20:05.11 | sjansen | nice |
| 20:05.15 | goozbach | you silver medallion yet? |
| 20:05.40 | sjansen | yup |
| 20:05.55 | goozbach | ok you should be good then |
| 20:06.19 | sjansen | (although this is only my second trip since getting silver) |
| 20:06.32 | goozbach | ha ha! |
| 20:06.49 | sjansen | goozbach: You platinum yet? ;-) |
| 20:06.57 | goozbach | I think I'll buy a europe trip this year so I can make platnim for sure |
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| 20:07.40 | sjansen | Aren't you doing Spain this year? |
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| 20:12.48 | goozbach | sjansen: I told them I want asstrailia |
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| 20:17.20 | lars-ut | http://www.hotwired.com/webmonkey/06/06/index3a_page2.html?tw=authoring |
| 20:17.21 | brac | [Webmonkey First Look: IE7 Beta2 Preview] |
| 20:17.26 | lars-ut | "While this list of new features is impressive, the other choices in the browser marketplace still have IE7 beat." |
| 20:17.38 | lars-ut | "First and foremost, there's cross-platform compatibility. Firefox and Opera are being developed for multiple platforms simultaneously, but Internet Explorer remains steadfastly Windows-only." |
| 20:18.09 | nick125_ | they must not be taking wine into account :) |
| 20:18.40 | nick125_ | stupid kernel wont boot!! |
| 20:18.41 | nick125_ | it locks up at "Freeing unused kernel memory" |
| 20:18.50 | lars-ut | nick125_: or VMware... |
| 20:19.00 | lars-ut | Finally, CSS support, while vastly improved since version 6, is still incomplete, with limited support for pseudo-classes and CSS-P declarations." |
| 20:19.50 | maquis | A) IE works on mac (i've been convincing my mom to use safari)... |
| 20:19.59 | lars-ut | IE7? |
| 20:20.02 | maquis | B) who would *want* to use IE on other platforms |
| 20:20.06 | nick125_ | maquis: i dont think they develop for mac anymore |
| 20:20.06 | maquis | lars-ut: no... but IE |
| 20:20.16 | nick125_ | i have IE7 on my lappy.. |
| 20:20.20 | lars-ut | maquis: which version? |
| 20:20.23 | nick125_ | *hugs firefox* |
| 20:20.26 | maquis | lars-ut: dunno |
| 20:21.15 | lars-ut | maquis: which do you prefer on Mac - Safari, Firefox, or Camino? |
| 20:23.29 | maquis | lars-ut: never tried camino.. i like firefox, mainly because that's what i'm usedto |
| 20:23.41 | maquis | my dad uses safari |
| 20:23.54 | maquis | my mom usually uses IE, but i've been working on her |
| 20:28.38 | mheath | My dad uses netscape =\ |
| 20:29.48 | mheath | Newsome: ! Why? |
| 20:30.30 | Newsome | I took a new job in Chicago, so commuting back to BYU would be difficult |
| 20:30.54 | mheath | aha, indeed. |
| 20:31.15 | Newsome | at Great Lakes? |
| 20:32.19 | mheath | Yep. |
| 20:32.32 | mheath | I'll be up there for ~5 months |
| 20:36.08 | ctr_ | for cute |
| 20:36.28 | harleypig | I was hoping to melt at least some people brain wrap. |
| 20:39.36 | mheath | ~lart women |
| 20:39.48 | mheath | O.o |
| 20:40.27 | Jayce^ | gratz Newsome |
| 20:40.40 | harleypig | mheath: that was a lart to men! |
| 20:40.46 | harleypig | http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=11171546&src=rss/oddlyEnoughNews |
| 20:40.46 | Jayce^ | but how are you going to get all the sco paperwork now? |
| 20:40.47 | brac | [Oddly Enough News Article | Reuters.com] |
| 20:41.01 | harleypig | They're still trying tohide the fact that Barbie is Ken's beard. |
| 20:41.13 | RyanE | Newsome: Welcome to the land of the freezing rain. :) |
| 20:42.04 | mheath | harleypig: I'm just fed up with dating and women for a bit =\ |
| 20:43.24 | Jayce^ | you think that's something that changes? |
| 20:43.41 | RyanE | hehe |
| 20:43.50 | mheath | I was just in...well, what I thought was a relationship...with a girl. I'm taking her to prom, doing some dating-type-things with her....giving her rides home, staying after work to buy her food and talk to her. |
| 20:44.11 | mheath | I really thought we had something going, or at least the start of something |
| 20:44.41 | mheath | And I take my friends advice to be open with her about how I feel. Shes had some very, very bad experiences with guys in the past, I figured she deserved to know upfront how I felt about her |
| 20:44.55 | RyanE | and you scared her off? |
| 20:44.58 | mheath | I tell her, and she tells me rather directly that she just likes me "as a friend" |
| 20:45.37 | RyanE | I was 'just friends' with my wife for 3 years before we got engaged. |
| 20:45.53 | mheath | Which leaves me confused. Because of these bad experiences with a past boyfriend, she told me upfront that she wasn't looking for a boyfriend....but was willing to do stuff as "friends". |
| 20:46.09 | mheath | So I don't know if it's the same situation, or.... |
| 20:46.17 | tene | my friend's roommate is getting married tomorrow to a guy she's only known for three weeks. |
| 20:46.20 | RyanE | give her some space. If she's interested, she'll come back to you. |
| 20:46.32 | tene | Mainly because she's lonely and easily manipulated. |
| 20:46.35 | mheath | And I don't nearly feel as comfortable around her anymore |
| 20:46.48 | ctr_ | tene: yeah, she fell for it and I didn't think she would |
| 20:46.54 | mheath | thats what I loved was, I was so comfortable around her. The conversation was natural, I just loved being with her and talking with her, making her laugh |
| 20:47.04 | mheath | Now its all awkward. At least for me. |
| 20:47.11 | ctr_ | all I had to do was mention my computer hacking skills and the deal was sealed |
| 20:47.29 | RyanE | didn't have to mention your ninja skillz? |
| 20:48.23 | tensai | my wife at first thought I was creepy, then we were friends, then we started dating. just took time and a lot of hypnotism. |
| 20:48.49 | ctr_ | RyanE: nah, she comes from a pirate family |
| 20:48.53 | ctr_ | so I had to play it cool |
| 20:48.55 | ctr_ | you understand |
| 20:49.08 | RyanE | yeah, those pirates just *hate* ninjas. |
| 20:49.09 | RyanE | :) |
| 20:50.12 | mheath | After she said that "just friends" thing, I did kinda give her some space. Didn't say much too her |
| 20:50.30 | RyanE | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20060203 |
| 20:50.31 | brac | [Ctrl+Alt+Del - Tragically l337] |
| 20:50.39 | ctr_ | mheath: that's rough dude |
| 20:50.54 | ctr_ | mheath: what sucks is that the drama can't be escaped from what I can tell |
| 20:51.02 | ctr_ | every relationships got it |
| 20:51.07 | mheath | And maybe its my skewed perception, but it seemed that after a while she started being nicer than normal.....Just ......friendlier. |
| 20:51.25 | tene | I don't deal with that drama. |
| 20:51.46 | RyanE | mheath: maybe so, but sounds like she still needs more space. |
| 20:51.48 | ctr_ | tene: pfft, neither do I ;-( |
| 20:52.03 | tene | I just traded it for other drama, though |
| 20:52.11 | sjansen | ~praise firefox |
| 20:52.12 | ibot | All hail firefox! |
| 20:52.22 | sjansen | ~worship firefox |
| 20:52.24 | ibot | ACTION bows down before firefox. "I'm not worthy!" |
| 20:53.05 | sjansen | Newsome: We'll miss you. |
| 20:56.48 | mheath | If anyone here works in a restraunt or previously has, I recommend the movie "Waiting" |
| 20:56.53 | mheath | I saw that last night |
| 20:57.01 | mheath | Hilarious, and a bit disturbing how true it is. |
| 20:58.41 | ctr_ | does it involve violence or true crime? |
| 20:58.58 | mheath | Heh, not really. |
| 20:59.04 | ctr_ | :-( sad |
| 20:59.19 | mheath | Oh, even if you don't work in a restraunt |
| 20:59.36 | mheath | Watch it, and realize that quite a bit of whats shown is *true* stuff. It'll make you treat your servers better, and tip better |
| 20:59.43 | mheath | =D |
| 21:01.08 | ctr_ | I'll check it out |
| 21:01.38 | mrpull- | tipping better based on fear is silly |
| 21:01.53 | mheath | The complete lack of care for sanitation isn't really as existant in most restraunts as is shown in there, but....... |
| 21:02.10 | mheath | mrpull-: Hehe, again, watch the movie. |
| 21:02.24 | mheath | erm |
| 21:02.28 | mheath | Nevermind. |
| 21:02.43 | mheath | I just remembered that this is #utah and a lot of people here are mormon with strict morale guidelines |
| 21:03.00 | mheath | Know ahead of the time that the movie is R, and has many things that are very inappropriate. |
| 21:03.14 | mrpull- | i've seen the previews. i don't need to see the whole movie. |
| 21:03.20 | tensai | ~dict morale |
| 21:03.23 | tensai | ~dict moral |
| 21:03.40 | mrpull- | my statement stands. tipping based on fear of what a server may do is stupid. |
| 21:04.21 | goozbach | mheath: welcome to the world of an intelectual whore |
| 21:04.43 | mrpull- | and if a server does something unethical based on his tip then he is an asshole anyway. |
| 21:04.48 | goozbach | I know your pain, because I myself tried ladder jumping once |
| 21:05.08 | goozbach | google ladder theory for more information about what I'm saying |
| 21:05.08 | mheath | It's not the tip. Its the people. |
| 21:05.20 | goozbach | NSFW warning |
| 21:05.22 | mheath | The server doesn't know what kind of tip he/she is getting until after they're done. |
| 21:05.36 | mheath | Let me give you an example |
| 21:05.50 | mheath | a few weeks ago, we had a lady keep calling up with to-go orders |
| 21:06.07 | mrpull- | i've got two 18 month olds that are terrors when I go out to eat. do you treat me poorly because my kids are noisy? |
| 21:06.14 | mheath | She'd call like every other day, and say "I was completely disatisfied with my last meal, give me this one for free" |
| 21:06.23 | mheath | She did this over and over again |
| 21:06.25 | mrpull- | you can choose not to serve her |
| 21:06.34 | mrpull- | tell her to eat elsewhere |
| 21:06.53 | mrpull- | i tip well because my kids make a mess |
| 21:07.07 | mrpull- | but if my waiter is a prick i'm not inclined to do so |
| 21:07.26 | mrpull- | so do you assume that I'm a crappy tipper when you see my unruly kids? |
| 21:07.35 | mrpull- | give me good service and you'll be rewarded |
| 21:07.37 | mheath | My restraunt is very good, actually. Though there are many that will do bad things to your food if you're pissing them off. |
| 21:08.10 | mrpull- | then they deserve to be fired and you should report them |
| 21:08.19 | mheath | Many restraunts, that is. |
| 21:11.27 | mrpull- | mheath: so tell me, in the scenario i posed, do you treat my family differently? |
| 21:11.46 | mheath | I don't. I work in the kitchen, I know nothing of these things |
| 21:11.49 | mheath | Again, our restraunt is good |
| 21:11.53 | mrpull- | BS |
| 21:11.59 | mrpull- | you know nothing? |
| 21:12.06 | ctr_ | mrpull-: the same shit happens when I order water instead of another drink |
| 21:12.13 | ctr_ | people sorta think you're gonna cheap out on them |
| 21:12.19 | ctr_ | and you can tell by the service from that point on |
| 21:12.23 | mheath | The most you could expect is, if you were *really* irritating our servers, they might not be too concerned about getting your food out to you in a timly manner or remembering the extra salad dressing you requested. |
| 21:12.38 | ctr_ | window 2 |
| 21:12.42 | ctr_ | huh.. |
| 21:12.49 | goozbach | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7136976178243613174&q=rube+goldberg |
| 21:12.53 | mrpull- | mheath: and you'd still expect the same tip? |
| 21:12.57 | mheath | We don't mess with your food, drop it on the floor and not care, or anything. |
| 21:13.11 | xbmodder_ | hey |
| 21:13.11 | xbmodder_ | sup |
| 21:13.18 | mrpull- | goozbach: is that the HL engine? |
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| 21:13.29 | ctr_ | yes |
| 21:13.37 | mheath | mrpull-: No, they don't. But when our servers have been workign in a restraunt for 5-6 years (one of ours has been working in restraunts for 30 years), they're somewhat adept at forseeing what they're going to get tipped. |
| 21:13.48 | mheath | A lost cause and a table thats irritating them, they don't care about certain things. |
| 21:13.52 | goozbach | mrpull-: yup |
| 21:13.55 | goozbach | source |
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| 21:13.59 | goozbach | and gary's mod |
| 21:14.01 | mrpull- | goozbach: how cool |
| 21:14.18 | nick125_ | xbmodder_: hey |
| 21:14.19 | mrpull- | goozbach: i've been looking for a good "the incredible machine" clone to play |
| 21:14.23 | mrpull- | i loved that old game |
| 21:14.39 | xbmodder_ | nick125_: oh god my servers are DIEDING |
| 21:14.39 | goozbach | mrpull-: HL2 sdk |
| 21:14.46 | xbmodder_ | not just DIEING |
| 21:14.48 | mrpull- | mheath: here is my end take. treat everybody like a big tipper. take the good with the bad. |
| 21:14.51 | xbmodder_ | but DIEDING |
| 21:14.59 | nick125_ | xbmodder_: DIEDING isnt a word |
| 21:15.05 | xbmodder_ | nick125_: this is what I found: http://my.vr.org/account/?_page=product:details&id=61 |
| 21:15.06 | mrpull- | you never know. don't bitch about work. everybody has bad days at work. |
| 21:15.15 | xbmodder_ | their dedis are pimp |
| 21:15.29 | xbmodder_ | mrpull-: keep the language clean |
| 21:15.36 | mrpull- | whoopsy. :) |
| 21:16.23 | nick125_ | xbmodder_: $550 for a dedi.. |
| 21:16.35 | xbmodder_ | yeah |
| 21:16.53 | nick125_ | we need more like...$200 specials |
| 21:16.54 | nick125_ | :p |
| 21:16.57 | Uncle_Jesse | ~botmail jsmith need some help on asterisk when you get a chance |
| 21:17.09 | nick125_ | mm asterisk..fun |
| 21:17.12 | xbmodder_ | frickin' find me a server |
| 21:17.16 | xbmodder_ | Then I can colo it |
| 21:17.18 | xbmodder_ | right now |
| 21:17.25 | xbmodder_ | nick125_: PM me |
| 21:17.29 | Uncle_Jesse | nick125_: looking to set it up here at backcountry and integrate w/ zimbra |
| 21:18.03 | Uncle_Jesse | ~botmail for jsmith: need some help on asterisk when you get a chance |
| 21:18.18 | Uncle_Jesse | there we go... |
| 21:18.31 | xbmodder_ | $850/mo | Signup Now |
| 21:18.34 | Uncle_Jesse | zimbra's about to release a zimlet to integrate w/ VOIP |
| 21:20.29 | nick125_ | mm |
| 21:20.30 | tensai | Uncle_Jesse: there's always #utaug. might try your question in there. |
| 21:21.20 | tene | is it valid to have 255 octets in the middle of an IP address? |
| 21:21.22 | Uncle_Jesse | tensai: we're looking for consulting help |
| 21:21.25 | tene | i.e. 10.255.255.1 ? |
| 21:21.35 | Uncle_Jesse | is jsmith in #utaug? |
| 21:21.35 | lars-ut | http://www.google.com/movies?hl=en&near=84097&sort=3&mid=e5907009b7af4c1f |
| 21:21.59 | lars-ut | looking to buy & print movie tickets online that I can give to the ticket taker & avoid the box office |
| 21:22.03 | tensai | Uncle_Jesse: not right now, but he hangs out there as well |
| 21:22.24 | Uncle_Jesse | tensai: cool - we're just interested because he cowrote the book ;-) |
| 21:23.03 | tensai | tene: yes |
| 21:23.13 | tene | Thanks. |
| 21:23.22 | tensai | tene: just like using 0 can be valid |
| 21:23.36 | tene | just confirming. |
| 21:23.37 | ctr_ | guess who just installed starcraft onto his eMac for a weekend of nostalgic fun? |
| 21:23.42 | ctr_ | <----- hint |
| 21:24.02 | tene | this dhcp server is giving out an 82.* IP and saying that the router is at 10.* |
| 21:24.08 | lars-ut | ctr_: "Can I take your order, sir?" |
| 21:24.09 | tensai | ctr_: was it lessthandashdashdashdashdash? |
| 21:24.12 | xbmodder_ | Two cheap boxes needed |
| 21:24.30 | lars-ut | ctr_: "It's beautiful!" |
| 21:24.32 | ctr_ | lars-ut: "I hear ya." |
| 21:24.59 | ctr_ | like omg |
| 21:25.04 | ctr_ | i can't believe I just said that |
| 21:25.13 | ctr_ | but seriously, I'm stoked to play this game |
| 21:25.20 | ctr_ | haha |
| 21:25.22 | lars-ut | ctr_: it's a _great_ game |
| 21:25.22 | tensai | tene: that doesn't seem right. your gateway should be within your subnet |
| 21:25.38 | ctr_ | I think it's probably one of the best games ever made |
| 21:25.40 | ctr_ | period |
| 21:25.52 | ctr_ | of all time |
| 21:25.52 | ctr_ | hence the 'ever' |
| 21:25.52 | lars-ut | ctr_: I still hear the sound effects from it on radio ads. |
| 21:25.58 | ctr_ | really? |
| 21:26.02 | lars-ut | yep |
| 21:26.02 | ctr_ | man, that's awesome.. |
| 21:26.20 | ctr_ | i used to have a pretty wicked bnet rating |
| 21:26.21 | tensai | lars-ut: are they really there or are they burned into your brain? |
| 21:26.31 | lars-ut | lol |
| 21:26.40 | lars-ut | that, and the ever present opening door sound from Doom |
| 21:26.48 | ctr_ | ahh yeah |
| 21:26.49 | ctr_ | haha |
| 21:26.54 | ctr_ | that's another one man |
| 21:27.05 | ctr_ | i got some game playing to do |
| 21:27.10 | ctr_ | i just found a rom for yoshi's island |
| 21:27.13 | ctr_ | i think I'm in heaven |
| 21:27.15 | lars-ut | don't forget Commander Keen |
| 21:27.25 | lars-ut | and Wolfenstein |
| 21:27.29 | ctr_ | hahah, for sure |
| 21:27.31 | ctr_ | everything from id is awesoe |
| 21:27.34 | ctr_ | awesome |
| 21:27.48 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone know how to shuffle a playlist on an ipod? |
| 21:27.49 | ctr_ | commander keen was way fun |
| 21:28.16 | lars-ut | Other Classics: Test Drive, Stunts, Prince of Persia, and jus about anything made by Sierra... |
| 21:28.35 | lars-ut | King's Quest, Hero's Quest... |
| 21:28.41 | lars-ut | Code Name: Iceman |
| 21:28.49 | ctr_ | oh man |
| 21:28.52 | lars-ut | all good stuff. |
| 21:28.52 | ctr_ | stop!!! |
| 21:28.56 | mrpull- | space quest! |
| 21:28.59 | ctr_ | i'm going to die of joy |
| 21:29.00 | lars-ut | oh yeah. |
| 21:29.01 | ctr_ | defender! |
| 21:29.05 | ctr_ | man and joust! |
| 21:29.16 | lars-ut | whoopwhoopwhoop |
| 21:29.31 | ctr_ | and of course |
| 21:29.33 | ctr_ | final fantasy |
| 21:29.48 | lars-ut | what about arcade games? |
| 21:29.53 | lars-ut | Tempest |
| 21:30.01 | ctr_ | anything from square |
| 21:30.07 | lars-ut | wireframe Star Wars |
| 21:30.15 | ctr_ | never played those |
| 21:30.17 | lars-ut | Rush -n- Attack |
| 21:30.24 | tene | Ooo... that's nice. bringing the network down caused a kernel panic. |
| 21:30.45 | RyanE | mheath: going back a bit, don't you think that "servers that have been here 5-6 years can tell what they'll be tipped" is a self-fulfilling prophecy? |
| 21:31.02 | RyanE | In other words, if they think someone will not tip them well, they'll 'forget things', as you said, which then causes the people to not tip well. |
| 21:31.05 | lars-ut | RyanE: unless you tip ahead of time |
| 21:31.19 | RyanE | lars-ut:yeah, but who does that unless they're trying to impress their date? |
| 21:31.49 | RyanE | oh, and in that case, they don't need to have experience to know how well they'll be tipped. |
| 21:31.52 | lars-ut | Depends on what kind of service you want - it takes away a lot of the chance |
| 21:32.22 | RyanE | sure, but my point is, that to maximize their tips, they should not assume they'll be tipped badly by someone, causing them to be tipped badly because of their ignoring said 'assumed bad tipper'. |
| 21:33.09 | lars-ut | RyanE: good point. I regularly throw off a server by ordering my drink "with the meal" instead of beforehand. |
| 21:33.20 | RyanE | I go out with my wife and 5 kids, I always order water to drink, we split dishes for the smaller kids, and I tip *very* well. |
| 21:33.25 | tensai | Uncle_Jesse: shake it up real good |
| 21:33.49 | lars-ut | They almost always forget to bring my drink - be it a specialty drink, soda, or milk - with the meal |
| 21:33.52 | flyboy^ | I throw off waiters all the time. One guy won't serve us any more after giving us bad service and I left him a 0.01 tip. |
| 21:33.56 | Uncle_Jesse | tensai: tried it and now it works even worse ;-) |
| 21:34.08 | RyanE | however, mheath's 'experienced wait staff' would assume I'm a bad tipper, ignore me when I've been waiting for water for 10 minutes, and *then* get a worse tip |
| 21:34.14 | flyboy^ | I reward great service with a 20% tip. |
| 21:34.17 | flyboy^ | Or more. |
| 21:34.25 | mrpull- | mheath: do you thing servers are entitled to 15% regardless of the service provided? |
| 21:34.41 | lars-ut | I start at 20% and work my way down. |
| 21:34.51 | Uncle_Jesse | I thought the standard was now 20% up from 15% |
| 21:34.52 | lars-ut | I hardly ever tip in advance. |
| 21:34.58 | RyanE | I start at 20%, work my way down, and occasionally, work my way up. |
| 21:35.06 | mrpull- | who actually tips in advance? what does that mean? |
| 21:35.25 | lars-ut | from a previous conversation, like RyanE said to impress a date |
| 21:35.33 | RyanE | It means you're trying to impress your girlfriend, and/or you have a special occasion that you don't want the wait staff to mess up. |
| 21:35.39 | lars-ut | yup |
| 21:35.58 | RyanE | i.e. it's your anniversary, you say "here's a $50 tip. Can you manage to make our evening nice?" |
| 21:36.17 | RyanE | (the $50 is hypothetical, btw.) :) |
| 21:36.19 | mrpull- | whoa. that is a concept I've never come across. where do you do that? a nice place shouldn't need "bribing" |
| 21:36.37 | RyanE | no, but it certainly helps to get *excellent* service. |
| 21:36.40 | ctr_ | Yeah I've never heard of that |
| 21:36.46 | lars-ut | anywhere you really care about the occasion |
| 21:36.56 | RyanE | I've had excellent service without doing that, but if you want to ensure it, that's one option. |
| 21:36.57 | Jayce^ | sure, that's been aroudn for ages.. |
| 21:37.05 | Jayce^ | just not normal for the cheap dinner places |
| 21:37.27 | ctr_ | I'd just rather go to a nicer place where the good service is more likely to come by 'default' |
| 21:37.35 | ctr_ | the food is gonna be nicer anywho |
| 21:37.40 | ctr_ | generally :) |
| 21:38.10 | lars-ut | I may have related this before - but I had a buddy give a server $20 for a "pre-tip" at a cheap Italian lunch place - service was incredible. |
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| 21:38.31 | ctr_ | did he clean your shoes? |
| 21:38.42 | ctr_ | I mean how do you guage that |
| 21:38.45 | lars-ut | no, "she" didn't |
| 21:38.49 | ctr_ | Ahh |
| 21:38.49 | elg | I don't have shoes, you insensitive clod |
| 21:38.55 | ctr_ | hahaha |
| 21:38.57 | lars-ut | lol |
| 21:39.00 | ctr_ | my bad |
| 21:39.05 | Jayce^ | elg, http://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20060209/tc_cmp/179102057 |
| 21:39.06 | brac | [Canadian IT Operators Discover Beauty In Spam - Yahoo! News] |
| 21:39.14 | lars-ut | ctr_: Shouldn't you be playing StarCraft |
| 21:39.16 | lars-ut | ? |
| 21:39.23 | ctr_ | nah, I got work to do |
| 21:39.25 | ctr_ | sc is for the weekend |
| 21:39.28 | elg | ok, so the gumbi olympics opening ceremonies are tonight |
| 21:39.29 | ctr_ | maybe... |
| 21:39.58 | ctr_ | hahah |
| 21:40.06 | lars-ut | really. |
| 21:40.22 | lars-ut | part of the "web clip"s thing |
| 21:41.28 | elg | Jayce^: hey, where's my royalty check? |
| 21:42.05 | tene | what behaviors and actions are are associated with "really great service"? |
| 21:42.37 | lars-ut | boxing your food for you |
| 21:42.51 | nick125_ | BOOT!!! |
| 21:43.27 | lars-ut | refilling your drinks many times w/o interrupting your meal |
| 21:43.53 | lars-ut | giveing the kids stuff to keep them content |
| 21:44.15 | spr | ~lart kued for not showing Death Cab for Cutie |
| 21:44.24 | spr | hm.. |
| 21:44.30 | spr | ~lart kued for 'not showing Death Cab for Cutie' |
| 21:44.46 | lars-ut | tene: not charging for something they could have |
| 21:44.47 | nick125_ | any ideas on what to try to get this kernel to boot? it keeps locking up at "Freeing unused kernel memory". its a fresh gentoo install, xen-sources |
| 21:45.51 | RyanE | tene: staying attentive to me and my party, by noticing if I'm looking their way, and *then* asking if I need anything, not coming by every 20 seconds and asking. |
| 21:46.00 | elg | so anyway, does anyone have any recommendations for watching olympics when you don't get dish, cable, or broadcast TV? |
| 21:46.03 | lars-ut | tene: being familia enough with entrees to advise which ones to avoid & which ones are a personal preference |
| 21:46.05 | elg | (hint: online) |
| 21:46.23 | lars-ut | elg: bitmetv.org |
| 21:46.26 | RyanE | elg: neighbors? |
| 21:46.41 | lars-ut | pm me if you need an invite |
| 21:46.56 | elg | i'm on bitmetv. think they'll have olympics? |
| 21:47.04 | lars-ut | take a look |
| 21:47.07 | lars-ut | not sure. |
| 21:47.17 | tensai | ~lart olympics |
| 21:47.29 | tensai | now *that* I would watch |
| 21:47.31 | lars-ut | or you could use the bittorrent search plugin for firefox |
| 21:47.38 | elg | i mostly like the downhill ski racing |
| 21:47.42 | elg | and the luge |
| 21:47.55 | elg | and that luge-like thing where the wimps have a sled |
| 21:50.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone here fluent in /etc/sudoers? :) |
| 21:50.30 | tene | vaguely |
| 21:50.54 | Uncle_Jesse | what is this supposed to mean (off /.)?: |
| 21:50.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I need to give a group 'services' the ability to execute a few specific binaries as root |
| 21:51.07 | ScytheBlade1 | And this man page is useless |
| 21:51.23 | Uncle_Jesse | 20th Century Warmest In 1200 Years |
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| 21:51.34 | Uncle_Jesse | isn't a century 1000 years? |
| 21:51.45 | ScytheBlade1 | 100 |
| 21:51.52 | jsmith | Uncle_Jesse: No! |
| 21:51.55 | Uncle_Jesse | doh |
| 21:51.57 | Uncle_Jesse | stupid me |
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| 21:56.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ibot: help |
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| 22:09.52 | goozbach | http://www.hlcomic.com/archive/ |
| 22:09.54 | brac | [Concerned: Comics Index] |
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| 22:38.28 | xbmodder_ | heh |
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| 23:02.15 | emcnabb | wow, there's a bald eagle flying near our building |
| 23:02.43 | emcnabb | it must have come from Farmington Bay |
| 23:02.58 | maquis | emcnabb: fun |
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| 23:14.14 | digistic | hola |
| 23:16.26 | goozbach | que honda? |
| 23:16.52 | digistic | chillaxin, compadre |
| 23:17.44 | goozbach | orale |
| 23:17.50 | digistic | I have a problem though. |
| 23:17.59 | maquis | que toyota? |
| 23:18.20 | goozbach | esta toyota |
| 23:18.23 | digistic | I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone. |
| 23:19.00 | emcnabb | que hiciste?!? |
| 23:19.35 | emcnabb | este chiste es bien viejo |
| 23:19.44 | digistic | Just thought people may be interested in some of these: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/steven_wright.html |
| 23:19.45 | brac | [Steven Wright Quotes] |
| 23:20.00 | digistic | Hey Evan, good trip back? |
| 23:20.25 | emcnabb | digistic: yeah, besides a delay in Denver |
| 23:20.33 | digistic | that sux |
| 23:20.37 | emcnabb | what are you up to? |
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| 23:20.54 | digistic | relaxing.. super busy day at work... but the load is lessening |
| 23:21.07 | digistic | gonna go to a happy hour and check out a concert later tonite |
| 23:21.13 | emcnabb | fun |
| 23:21.16 | digistic | u |
| 23:21.41 | emcnabb | just came into work late this morning, and had to write up a proposal / outline |
| 23:21.45 | digistic | one of my friends may get her first book published by Simon & Schuster... and i named one of the major characters :) |
| 23:21.55 | emcnabb | haha, cool |
| 23:22.05 | digistic | don't ask me the character name; i forget |
| 23:22.09 | digistic | but it's cool, i swear |
| 23:22.48 | digistic | did u outline the proposal or propose the outline? |
| 23:22.59 | goozbach | this is the first time I've been able to relax on a friday evening in a LONG while |
| 23:23.03 | emcnabb | propose the outline |
| 23:23.08 | digistic | heh |
| 23:23.13 | emcnabb | goozbach: you going to enjoy your new TV? |
| 23:23.14 | ctr_ | i wish I could get slashdotted to test my current httpd server setup |
| 23:23.20 | emcnabb | oh, you're on the road |
| 23:23.29 | goozbach | yup |
| 23:23.34 | emcnabb | Florida? |
| 23:23.45 | goozbach | and i DIDN"T have to rush off to the airport |
| 23:23.46 | digistic | who needs slashdot when there's a bunch of zombies available? |
| 23:23.58 | ctr_ | digistic: I'm on it |
| 23:24.07 | emcnabb | goozbach: you doing anything fun this weekend? |
| 23:24.09 | digistic | heh, nice |
| 23:24.16 | emcnabb | I hear you're going down to Orlando |
| 23:24.39 | goozbach | emcnabb: heading down to Orlando |
| 23:25.18 | maquis | haha |
| 23:25.31 | emcnabb | goozbach: how do you set an exit message in IRSSI |
| 23:25.46 | goozbach | trying to find a cheap hotel for tonight |
| 23:25.48 | emcnabb | for when you leave a channel or leave the server |
| 23:25.49 | emcnabb | ? |
| 23:26.00 | goozbach | emcnabb: don't know |
| 23:26.01 | maquis | emcnabb: goozbach and i never leave |
| 23:26.03 | goozbach | never left |
| 23:26.05 | tensai | /quit see ya later, dudez |
| 23:26.29 | emcnabb | tensai: is there a way to make it the default whenever I quit? |
| 23:26.49 | tensai | not an irssi user, so I dunno. I assume so though. |
| 23:28.18 | ctr_ | i'm sure it's in the configuration |
| 23:28.26 | ctr_ | hang on and I'll tell you |
| 23:28.33 | emcnabb | that's my point, I'm trying to find it |
| 23:28.35 | goozbach | quit_message = leaving |
| 23:28.48 | goozbach | google irssi default quit message |
| 23:28.56 | maquis | http://www.monkeyc.org/dome/index.html <-- i want one! |
| 23:28.57 | brac | [Cardboard Domes - Homepage: Constructing Cardboard Geodesic Domes That Will Survive Burning Man and the Black Rock Desert] |
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| 23:32.28 | goozbach | should I stay or should I go? |
| 23:32.58 | emcnabb | go! |
| 23:33.01 | digistic | If you go, there will be trouble! |
| 23:34.48 | goozbach | ohhh trouble! |
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| 23:34.58 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 23:34.59 | xbmodder_lappy | nick125, |
| 23:35.01 | digistic | Esta undecision se molesta |
| 23:35.08 | emcnabb | ~lart goozbach |
| 23:35.26 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 23:37.10 | ctr_ | it would have been way neater with a floppy/cd combo |
| 23:37.14 | ctr_ | but that's my personal opinion |
| 23:38.15 | xbmodder_lappy | ergh |
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| 23:40.46 | xbmodder_lappy | lala |
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| 23:44.33 | emcnabb | I have my quit message set, but it didn't show it in my xchat window |
| 23:44.36 | emcnabb | oh well |
| 23:51.30 | digistic | maybe if you don't quit, you'll eventually figure it out |
| 23:52.04 | bonez39 | will xmms play .mp3 files? |
| 23:52.32 | emcnabb | bonez39: you may need to install an mp3 plugin |
| 23:52.33 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 23:52.35 | emcnabb | which distro? |
| 23:52.44 | xbmodder_lappy | but you need to install the MP3 input plug-in |
| 23:52.58 | emcnabb | Fedora / RHEL require you to install a separate RPM |
| 23:54.43 | emcnabb | if it's fedora, go to http://livna.org/, install the livna RPM, and run 'yum install xmms-mp3' |
| 23:54.55 | bonez39 | emcnabb, debian 3.1 |
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| 23:56.16 | emcnabb | apt-get install xmms-mad |
| 23:56.34 | bonez39 | emcnabb, I guess I have .mp3 enabled in it already.i'ts playing...... |
| 23:56.35 | emcnabb | that might do it; I don't have a system to test it on |
| 23:56.43 | emcnabb | cool |
| 23:58.09 | bonez39 | a lady emailed me a voiceemail......now to get mutt to default to opening and running xmms...I am sure there must be a way to do that too |