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| 00:10.38 | lukfugl|1ork | blink blink |
| 00:10.57 | lukfugl|1ork | Bryan and Levi living in harmony? :) |
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| 00:20.01 | lukfugl|1ork | win 3 |
| 00:30.18 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
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| 00:51.14 | Hhhhh | it is quiet... |
| 00:51.21 | xbmodder_lappy | yes, it is. |
| 00:51.28 | Hhhhh | too quiet... |
| 00:51.39 | xbmodder_lappy | yes, too quiet... |
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| 00:54.54 | hans | ~rlart |
| 00:55.19 | xbmodder_lappy | ~alart |
| 00:55.21 | ibot | LART is a luser attitude readjustment tool... proper examples include a clue-by-four, 3-phase through 10bT, or a luser prod. |
| 00:55.43 | xbmodder_lappy | ~rlart |
| 00:56.35 | harleypig | I was wondering if it would be possible for me to do the following: I'm behing a NAT'd firewall so I can't torrent very well. Is it possible for me to use ssh to torrent somehow through a linode server I have directly to my box? |
| 00:57.35 | hans | maybe you can do it with socks |
| 00:57.36 | hans | http://btfaq.com/serve/cache/27.html |
| 00:57.42 | hans | ssh can play socks server iirc |
| 00:57.44 | xbmodder_lappy | harleypig, what kind of NAT? and also -- what torrent? |
| 00:58.03 | hans | or you could set some socks server up on your linode |
| 00:58.08 | harleypig | Don't know what kind of nat, just the plain bittorrent from bitconjurer |
| 00:58.44 | harleypig | hans: not really familiar with socks ... is what I'm thinking of doing to weird, or has someone done it before? |
| 00:58.53 | xbmodder_lappy | harleypig, company NAT? and like what kind of torrents, legal one? you don't want to run into legal problems with linode guys |
| 00:59.04 | hans | i've never set up or used socks, actually, but it's my understanding that it's for punching through firewalls |
| 00:59.28 | hans | I think it's the linode guys that want to steer clear of harleypig's green beard |
| 00:59.29 | xbmodder_lappy | hans, I was thinking he could use openvpn with TAP |
| 00:59.41 | hans | well openvpn doesn't solve the NAT problem |
| 00:59.46 | hans | which is what's wrong with bittorrent |
| 01:00.10 | harleypig | xbmodder_lappy: company nat |
| 01:00.12 | hans | harleypig: see also http://btfaq.com/serve/cache/26.html |
| 01:00.35 | harleypig | xbmodder_lappy: ? as long yas you don't get them in trouble they don't give you grief. |
| 01:00.41 | harleypig | hans: thanks. |
| 01:01.43 | hans | see also http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html#firewall |
| 01:01.47 | brac | [BitTorrent - Frequently Asked Questions] |
| 01:03.16 | harleypig | I must admit (ashamedly) that I don't understand the mechanics of port forwarding (the concept I understand--I just havne't had to use it). |
| 01:03.42 | hans | port forwarding in general or in ssh? |
| 01:03.49 | harleypig | I was hoping it could be somehting like ssh port:linode:port btlaunchmany |
| 01:03.49 | harleypig | ssh |
| 01:04.09 | harleypig | So basically, I would just make my linode a pass through |
| 01:04.17 | hans | it can be. ssh port forwarding is hard to learn but easy to understand. the man page is kind of cryptic |
| 01:04.29 | hans | the key is memorizing the three parts, and L and R |
| 01:04.39 | harleypig | (the reason for this rigamarole is I don't have enough hard drive space left on my linode |
| 01:04.42 | hans | L and R mean local and remote |
| 01:04.49 | harleypig | ok ... |
| 01:04.53 | hans | meaning, when a connection is made to L or R |
| 01:04.58 | hans | then you tell it what to do |
| 01:05.09 | hans | -L 8022:localhost:22 |
| 01:05.24 | hans | that says when a connection comes to local port 8022, forward it to localhost:22 |
| 01:05.33 | hans | on the remote end |
| 01:05.47 | hans | so port 8022 from L's point of view, and localhost:22 from remote's |
| 01:06.14 | hans | and -R 8080:localhost:80 |
| 01:06.34 | hans | means from remote's port 8080, forward to localhost:80 (this time from local's point of view) |
| 01:06.39 | harleypig | Ok ... does that mean that my linode has to be able to connect to my local box? |
| 01:06.42 | hans | for remote you often need -g |
| 01:06.54 | hans | which means let other people connect to it, not just localhost |
| 01:07.03 | hans | no, the tunnel goes over the ssh connection |
| 01:07.13 | hans | so what you probably want is |
| 01:07.37 | hans | ssh -R 15000:localhost:15000 mylinode |
| 01:07.43 | hans | oh, and -g |
| 01:08.00 | hans | and if that doesn't work, -g may not be taking effect because of your sshd configuration which by default sometimes disables -g |
| 01:08.23 | hans | you can have multiple -R phrases, I think, and I think you'll need them for bittorrent. |
| 01:08.38 | hans | also I think you need to set your bittorrent client to advertise your linode's IP |
| 01:08.50 | harleypig | Ok ... so torrentpeer goes to mylinode:15000 which is transferred to my local box and the program thinks it's coming in on port 15000 |
| 01:09.08 | harleypig | So, basically I'm using twice the bandwidth with this setup. |
| 01:09.12 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 01:09.25 | xbmodder_lappy | use sonic.net's colo... |
| 01:09.27 | harleypig | which is fine, linodes good about bandwidth (and I don't use a lot). |
| 01:10.00 | hans | no you don't use twice the bandwidth |
| 01:10.17 | hans | well, you do from the linode's perspective I guess |
| 01:10.35 | harleypig | :] Yeah, incoming is then sent to outgoing |
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| 01:12.42 | ^Migs^ | my mother-in-law just bought the dumbest dress for my 3 year-old. She found it at the dollar store, and it looks like a Christmas tree. |
| 01:16.04 | harleypig | hans: Still confused. ssh -g 6881:localhost:6881 harleypigprogramming.com got me to the server, but I'm not clear on how I start a program (like btlaunchmanycurses) |
| 01:16.14 | harleypig | from my local box |
| 01:16.49 | xbmodder_lappy | ^Migs^, who are you? |
| 01:16.57 | ^Migs^ | who am I? I'm awesome. |
| 01:17.08 | xbmodder_lappy | umm.. name? |
| 01:17.20 | xbmodder_lappy | names are good... |
| 01:18.10 | harleypig | xbmodder_lappy: /whois ^Migs^ |
| 01:18.25 | harleypig | nm, does squat |
| 01:18.31 | xbmodder_lappy | Migs = Migs |
| 01:20.14 | ^Migs^ | I don't need to give you my name. You can call me Migs. >:( |
| 01:20.28 | ^Migs^ | it's rude to ask other people their name. |
| 01:20.36 | ^Migs^ | You owe me an apology. |
| 01:20.46 | harleypig | \:| |
| 01:20.47 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 01:20.57 | xbmodder_lappy | what does your christmas tree look like? |
| 01:21.09 | ^Migs^ | it has lights and stuff |
| 01:21.14 | xbmodder_lappy | cool. |
| 01:21.18 | xbmodder_lappy | and your three year old? |
| 01:21.18 | ^Migs^ | indeed |
| 01:21.23 | ^Migs^ | lightless |
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| 01:22.22 | xbmodder_lappy | so your three year old looks like stuff |
| 01:22.37 | ^Migs^ | stay away from my three year old |
| 01:24.32 | xbmodder_lappy | ok... |
| 01:25.04 | xbmodder_lappy | i am in cali, i think i am unaway from your three year old |
| 01:25.47 | hans | migs, it could be worse. she could have given you a christmast-tree dress |
| 01:26.07 | hans | harleypig: once you're in (did you forget the -R?), then you just fire up the program locally |
| 01:26.13 | hans | the program is oblivious |
| 01:26.35 | hans | then incoming connections to your linode on port whatever, will be incoming connections on your local box at port whatever |
| 01:27.43 | xbmodder_lappy | why not download it on the linode. and then put it in a hidden HTTP directory. |
| 01:27.53 | xbmodder_lappy | so you don't use DOUBLE the bandwidth... |
| 01:28.14 | hans | he's out of space |
| 01:29.01 | hans | harleypig: you just need to get rid of all that chipmunk-worship propoganda on your linode |
| 01:29.14 | harleypig | hans: I typed ssh -g -R 6881:localhost:6881 harleypigprogramming.com |
| 01:29.26 | harleypig | xbmodder_lappy: I've got about 500MB available. |
| 01:29.37 | harleypig | That took me to the server. |
| 01:29.51 | xbmodder_lappy | harleypig, how much do you pay for you linode a month? |
| 01:30.04 | hans | nice website |
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| 01:30.17 | hans | yeah, you need to keep that ssh session on the server open |
| 01:30.36 | hans | there's options you can give to make it background and shut up |
| 01:30.51 | hans | but it's just as easy to minimize the xterm or put it in screen |
| 01:31.18 | harleypig | ok, I'll experiment with that. in another window, start btlaunchmany with the appropriate port and advertise info |
| 01:31.32 | hans | right, with the IP address of your linode |
| 01:31.57 | xbmodder_lappy | hans -N |
| 01:32.12 | hans | -N is part of the incantation |
| 01:32.13 | brac | alright |
| 01:32.19 | hans | um, ok. |
| 01:32.32 | hans | -N? |
| 01:32.32 | brac | N is part of the incantation |
| 01:33.03 | harleypig | xbmodder_lappy: what do you mean? |
| 01:33.18 | harleypig | oh, I see. |
| 01:33.20 | hans | ignore him. just use screen |
| 01:34.57 | harleypig | heh |
| 01:35.54 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.54 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.02 | xbmodder_lappy | -n |
| 01:36.03 | xbmodder_lappy | oops.. |
| 01:36.18 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.18 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.18 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.18 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.18 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.18 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:36.24 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.28 | xbmodder_lappy | oops... flood... |
| 01:36.51 | goozbach | floodkick response tingling |
| 01:36.51 | harleypig | hans: :> |
| 01:37.06 | harleypig | hans: err .. in response to the nice website |
| 01:37.39 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, heh |
| 01:37.42 | xbmodder_lappy | errr... |
| 01:37.50 | xbmodder_lappy | MODE +q xbmodder_lappy |
| 01:38.23 | *** mode/#utah [+o goozbach] by ChanServ |
| 01:39.05 | goozbach | so dave and busters is AWESOME! |
| 01:40.14 | ^Migs^ | no I'm awesome |
| 01:41.04 | harleypig | xbmodder_lappy: I pay around $25/month (nnot sure, I pay yearly) |
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| 01:46.04 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
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| 01:57.43 | harleypig | going home, good night |
| 01:57.46 | harleypig | thanks for the help hans |
| 02:00.18 | xbmodder_lappy | is there any pro to multicast routing? |
| 02:08.55 | ^Migs^ | stay away from my 3 year old |
| 02:09.13 | ^Migs^ | er |
| 02:09.16 | ^Migs^ | nm |
| 02:26.19 | hans | Bryan does a good job defending Java. It's a pity that he couldn't be defending something better instead. |
| 02:30.56 | maquis | haha |
| 02:31.02 | maquis | i'm going through that thread now |
| 02:31.19 | ^Migs^ | there's nothing unawesome about Jav a |
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| 03:32.06 | emcnabb | my friend is now on the IE7 development team; it's interesting to hear his attitude towards things in their monthly family email newsletter |
| 03:33.30 | Kuyaedz | internet exploder huh.. what is his attitude like? |
| 03:34.40 | emcnabb | here's a snippet (sorry about the crap flood): |
| 03:34.51 | emcnabb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.51 | emcnabb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.51 | emcnabb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.51 | emcnabb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.51 | emcnabb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.51 | emcnabb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:34.57 | emcnabb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:35.55 | Kuyaedz | if you ask me IE7 and Vista, for me and a lot of people I know, is a day late & a dollar short. |
| 03:37.23 | Kuyaedz | its just been too long without any useful updates. |
| 03:37.33 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 03:37.39 | emcnabb | we'll see what happens |
| 03:38.07 | emcnabb | I haven't seen people as "excited" as they were for previous releases |
| 03:38.18 | emcnabb | even from my MS fanatic friends |
| 03:38.46 | Kuyaedz | I know one friend of mine is excited. He said "this is probably the first version that I'll actually buy" (instead of pirate, of course) |
| 03:39.02 | Kuyaedz | ...and that is simply because of the more intensified piracy protection |
| 03:39.42 | emcnabb | haha |
| 03:40.46 | amcnabb | Wow. |
| 03:41.34 | Kuyaedz | ..and although he uses Linux on a home web server and uses a lot of free apps he still prefers XP as an OS. |
| 03:42.08 | Kuyaedz | he says "I don't care what OS I use as long as I can use my tools well (photoshop, dreamweaver, etc..). If XP is where I can use them, so be it." |
| 03:43.22 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 03:43.40 | emcnabb | so, here are what some of the students in my class at HP work on: |
| 03:43.41 | emcnabb | http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/xp12000/index.html |
| 03:43.43 | brac | [HP StorageWorks XP12000 Disk Array - Overview & features] |
| 03:43.52 | emcnabb | I got a demo of it today |
| 03:44.16 | Kuyaedz | which is a good point but I'd rather promote the open apps until it catches up to (and thats a controversial statement there) to the windows equivalent |
| 03:44.19 | emcnabb | read the specs; they're pretty impressive |
| 03:45.05 | QBFreak | I don't suppose anyone knows how I can do floating point addition in bash? |
| 03:45.19 | emcnabb | bc is probably the easiest bet |
| 03:45.33 | goozbach | 32PB??? |
| 03:45.35 | goozbach | wow |
| 03:45.45 | goozbach | QBFreak: use bc |
| 03:46.05 | emcnabb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.25 | emcnabb | goozbach, yeah, and EVERYTHING is redundant |
| 03:46.36 | QBFreak | thanks, both of you |
| 03:46.47 | emcnabb | in fact, 1/2 of every single piece of hardware can fail and it keeps chugging |
| 03:48.27 | emcnabb | every type of component that is |
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| 03:50.25 | xbmodder_lappy | whats the simplest IPsec implementation out there? |
| 03:50.58 | xbmodder_lappy | why did my school block all UDP? |
| 03:52.03 | goozbach | FUD |
| 03:52.32 | xbmodder_lappy | :( |
| 03:53.07 | Kuyaedz | stinkin' FUD |
| 03:53.25 | xbmodder_lappy | Does anyone know how to map a virtual host. basically have my computer's IP set to 10.0.1.1 and make it forward ALL incoming traffic to 10.0.0.1. I have an interface on both subnets. |
| 03:54.28 | goozbach | all incoming traffic to 10.0.0.1 |
| 03:54.29 | goozbach | ? |
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| 03:55.06 | goozbach | is 10.0.1.1 and 10.0.0.1 on the same host |
| 03:55.10 | goozbach | or different hosts? |
| 03:56.49 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, a nice diagram "10.0.1.9--->10.0.1.1---->eth0---->me--->eth1------>10.0.0.1 |
| 03:58.11 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, do this all without touching 10.0.1.9 |
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| 04:00.14 | goozbach | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d ! 10.0.1.1 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.1.9 |
| 04:00.22 | maquis | ~seen tensai |
| 04:00.25 | ibot | tensai <n=tensai@joanna.zmonkey.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 23h 7m 14s ago, saying: '~lart Tene's other uncle'. |
| 04:00.25 | goozbach | something along those lines MAY work |
| 04:00.33 | goozbach | man iptables |
| 04:00.34 | maquis | hmmm |
| 04:00.55 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, and I just "ifconfig eth0:1 10.0.1.1" |
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| 04:01.23 | goozbach | yes, you have to create the interface 10.0.1.1 |
| 04:01.30 | xbmodder_lappy | NETMAP maybe? |
| 04:01.48 | goozbach | personally I'd use ip to create the interface |
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| 04:02.01 | goozbach | or whatever method your distro uses for permanance |
| 04:02.08 | fozzmoo | Hey gooz |
| 04:02.12 | goozbach | and then there's fozzmoo |
| 04:02.14 | fozzmoo | Didjadoit? |
| 04:02.14 | goozbach | ... |
| 04:02.22 | fozzmoo | didja didja? |
| 04:02.23 | goozbach | don't get me started about fozzmoo |
| 04:02.24 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, thank you :) |
| 04:02.32 | goozbach | fozzmoo: just got back to the hotel |
| 04:02.40 | fozzmoo | It's about frickin time! |
| 04:02.45 | goozbach | I spent 3 hours at Dave and Busters |
| 04:02.51 | goozbach | WHOO HOO |
| 04:02.51 | fozzmoo | Wassat? |
| 04:02.57 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, you saved me from figuring out network bridging... |
| 04:03.14 | goozbach | ohh |
| 04:03.20 | goozbach | forgetti then |
| 04:03.25 | goozbach | learn bridging |
| 04:03.28 | fozzmoo | a bar! |
| 04:03.29 | goozbach | it's mucho bettero |
| 04:03.42 | goozbach | a big person's chucky cheese |
| 04:03.42 | fozzmoo | with lots of fun fames. |
| 04:03.47 | fozzmoo | Yeah. Fun. |
| 04:03.53 | fozzmoo | That's a perk of travelling, I s'pose. |
| 04:04.01 | goozbach | I dropped ~$20 on games |
| 04:04.08 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, I can't bridge with these interfaces.. |
| 04:04.19 | xbmodder_lappy | ethernet drivers don't support them. |
| 04:04.21 | goozbach | why not? |
| 04:04.29 | goozbach | bridgeutils |
| 04:04.42 | goozbach | let the OS do the bridging |
| 04:04.42 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah... "Input/Output error" |
| 04:04.59 | xbmodder_lappy | brctl addbr br0 |
| 04:05.06 | fozzmoo | So, I've been uploading like crazy to Google Video. |
| 04:05.07 | xbmodder_lappy | brctl addif br0 eth1 |
| 04:05.08 | xbmodder_lappy | brctl addif br0 eth0 |
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| 04:06.57 | goozbach | this internet access is SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW!!! |
| 04:07.13 | goozbach | fozzmoo: I'll do it in abt 20 min |
| 04:08.01 | maquis | fozzmoo: free stuff on google video? |
| 04:08.12 | maquis | (free stuff doens't have the stupid drm, right?) |
| 04:09.45 | fozzmoo | maquis: Yep. |
| 04:09.59 | maquis | fozzmoo: yep to which question? |
| 04:10.17 | fozzmoo | (free stuff doens't have the stupid drm, right?) |
| 04:10.26 | fozzmoo | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3006995443324097630 |
| 04:10.31 | fozzmoo | https://upload.video.google.com/AddVideoInfo?fn=dime.mpg |
| 04:10.46 | goozbach | the amazeocut |
| 04:10.49 | goozbach | awesome |
| 04:10.53 | fozzmoo | Oh- never mind about the second one. |
| 04:10.55 | fozzmoo | Bad link. |
| 04:11.00 | fozzmoo | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4351089151063787424 |
| 04:11.02 | fozzmoo | There we go. |
| 04:11.03 | xbmodder_lappy | I wish there was a "geek ISP." The entire city in a private network. Large pipes between their POPs, etc. |
| 04:11.22 | goozbach | fozzmoo: you have the cigarette bit on there? |
| 04:11.25 | fozzmoo | xbmodder_lappy: In Utah, that's XMission. |
| 04:11.34 | fozzmoo | goozbach: Waiting for that to be verified. |
| 04:11.35 | maquis | fozzmoo: i want to choose "for windows/mac", right? |
| 04:11.46 | fozzmoo | That's from a flick called The Dime. |
| 04:11.55 | fozzmoo | maquis: If you have Flash, you can just play it in the browser... |
| 04:12.02 | fozzmoo | Download for Windows/Mac will give you an AVI you can download. |
| 04:12.10 | maquis | fozzmoo: flash doesn't play nicely with freebsd |
| 04:12.14 | xbmodder_lappy | fozzmoo, do you know anyone who works for Xmission? |
| 04:12.22 | fozzmoo | heh heh. yeah. |
| 04:12.31 | fozzmoo | Lots of people, xbmodder... |
| 04:12.50 | fozzmoo | I used to be the only non-employee member of the XM quake clan. |
| 04:12.57 | Kuyaedz | my xmission 15m/15m fiber is getting activated this week. I'm stoked |
| 04:13.21 | fozzmoo | Kuyaedz: Where do you live? |
| 04:13.22 | xbmodder_lappy | *envy* |
| 04:13.43 | xbmodder_lappy | Kuyaedz, how much $$$? |
| 04:13.58 | fozzmoo | $44/mo |
| 04:14.14 | Kuyaedz | Orem.. $42/mo |
| 04:14.19 | xbmodder_lappy | fozzmoo, Is xmission going to expand out to cali? |
| 04:14.29 | fozzmoo | xbmodder_lappy: I doubt it. |
| 04:14.39 | fozzmoo | They do have a national dialup plan... |
| 04:14.45 | maquis | fozzmoo: i was curious whether they'd ever show up in seattle |
| 04:14.47 | goozbach | xbmodder_lappy: Hurricane electric |
| 04:14.49 | xbmodder_lappy | fozzmoo, hehe. |
| 04:14.56 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, is not an ISP iirc. |
| 04:15.12 | fozzmoo | and their DSL service is now available anywhere Qwest provides service. |
| 04:15.13 | goozbach | xbmodder_lappy: sure is |
| 04:15.41 | xbmodder_lappy | *a very expensive ISP |
| 04:15.42 | xbmodder_lappy | (T1, 10Mbps, OC-3, etc) |
| 04:16.18 | goozbach | direct line |
| 04:16.21 | fozzmoo | maquis: Why aren't you using Linux? |
| 04:16.33 | fozzmoo | FreeBSD is for... masochists. |
| 04:16.33 | goozbach | that fits the bill of "big pipes" |
| 04:16.57 | fozzmoo | You're a naughty girl, aren't you maquis? |
| 04:16.58 | maquis | fozzmoo: ??? |
| 04:17.01 | maquis | oh |
| 04:17.14 | maquis | i've got linux on 2 boxen |
| 04:17.19 | maquis | but i wanted to try out freebsd |
| 04:17.24 | maquis | so, i've got that on my other box |
| 04:18.00 | goozbach | OC48 to my house... |
| 04:18.04 | goozbach | *drool* |
| 04:18.06 | fozzmoo | In my book that's like, "I thought I'd try out a leather corset, a riding crop, and a whip." |
| 04:18.12 | Kuyaedz | I tried the BSD for about a week.. I went back to Linux |
| 04:19.20 | maquis | fozzmoo: huh? |
| 04:19.31 | maquis | freebsd is pretty cool |
| 04:20.06 | maquis | fozzmoo: what makes linux so much better than bsd? |
| 04:20.33 | fozzmoo | It's not as painful. :) |
| 04:20.56 | fozzmoo | g2g- Christine just called me upstairs to watch an ep of Angel. |
| 04:21.09 | xbmodder_lappy | less than 150 dollars a month |
| 04:21.18 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 04:21.49 | maquis | fozzmoo: umm... mmk? |
| 04:21.59 | maquis | personally, aside from flash, i haven't had much pain from it |
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| 04:22.19 | maquis | wow... someone did my job for me! |
| 04:22.20 | goozbach | cute geek wife who likes Sci-fi: priceless |
| 04:22.24 | SpecialZ | ~lart maquis |
| 04:22.33 | maquis | -lart ibot |
| 04:22.51 | SpecialZ | of course removing would be doing me a favor |
| 04:23.04 | maquis | :) |
| 04:23.07 | SpecialZ | debian that is. stupid word dissappearing |
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| 04:29.03 | Uncle_Jesse | just curious, anyone know where the job posted on sllug and plug for the senior perl developer is at? |
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| 04:36.22 | Newsome | wasn't it Orem? |
| 04:36.29 | Newsome | or, did you mean the company? |
| 04:36.46 | Kuyaedz | ?? |
| 04:37.48 | Uncle_Jesse | the company |
| 04:37.53 | Uncle_Jesse | yes, it was orem |
| 04:38.44 | Uncle_Jesse | but what was the name of the company? |
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| 04:41.28 | Newsome | hrm, looks like just some staffing company |
| 04:41.59 | Uncle_Jesse | I know Beau Gold - he's just representing another company. I doubt it's a staffing company. |
| 04:42.30 | Newsome | Beau Gold is from the staffing company |
| 04:42.54 | Uncle_Jesse | yes, that's what I meant - he's a recruiter representing another company |
| 04:42.59 | Newsome | okay |
| 04:43.15 | Uncle_Jesse | he'll never list the company name because people will just go straight to the company |
| 04:44.01 | Newsome | wisely, too. I hate dealing with headhunters and staffing companies |
| 04:44.19 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm not a big fan of him - a friend of mine got a job through him and because of it, I don't get a referral bonus. If my friend came straight to me I would have. |
| 04:45.14 | Uncle_Jesse | he also posts on the lugs after the companies themselves have already posted there |
| 04:45.31 | emcnabb | I just think it's annoying that they post jobs from all over the country |
| 04:45.39 | emcnabb | instead of just local ones |
| 04:45.53 | emcnabb | (I'm refering to the SLLUG jobs list) |
| 04:45.59 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - that's what the various job websites are for, not lug lists |
| 04:46.34 | emcnabb | I'm all for job announcements as long as they are catered to our crowd |
| 04:46.43 | Uncle_Jesse | yup |
| 04:47.01 | emcnabb | no: we're looking for a PHP programmer in Maine who as strong DB2 skills |
| 04:47.11 | emcnabb | let's post to the Utah LUGs! |
| 04:47.23 | maquis | :) |
| 04:47.26 | Uncle_Jesse | maybe they're willing to relocate |
| 04:47.40 | Newsome | the job or the programmer? :) |
| 04:47.52 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm skeptical though when it comes from a recruiter |
| 04:48.11 | pmcnabb | emcnabb, you should take the job in Maine |
| 04:48.13 | Uncle_Jesse | usually it's the recruiter in those instances, not the company that thinks they'll relocate |
| 04:48.41 | Uncle_Jesse | emcnabb - yeah - then you can be a #utah wannabe ;-) |
| 04:48.51 | emcnabb | haha |
| 04:49.08 | emcnabb | you were a #utah wannabe for a while then :-) |
| 04:49.31 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm always a #utah wannabe :-) |
| 04:49.47 | pmcnabb | same here |
| 04:50.44 | emcnabb | pmcnabb, soon you won't be a wanna be |
| 04:50.53 | pmcnabb | yes, that's true |
| 04:51.16 | pmcnabb | <-- accepted to BYU starting this summer! |
| 04:51.22 | Uncle_Jesse | who doesn't wannabe a #utah'er? |
| 04:51.51 | emcnabb | Newsome, there you go, another shot at another McNabb sysadmin :-) |
| 04:52.03 | Newsome | haha |
| 04:52.15 | Uncle_Jesse | I guess it could be #utahn |
| 04:52.28 | emcnabb | Uncle_Jesse, that would probably be right |
| 04:52.31 | Uncle_Jesse | depends on if you are "of" #utah or "doing" #utah |
| 04:53.16 | Uncle_Jesse | there are many #utahns that are also #utahers |
| 04:54.07 | Uncle_Jesse | I have to admit I'm a bit skeptical of a company hiring a senior perl programmer that doesn't have a presence in irc |
| 04:54.20 | Uncle_Jesse | I guess that depends on your point of view |
| 04:55.07 | Uncle_Jesse | or that can't post on the lugs themselves |
| 04:55.41 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm not quite sure why I'm bitter about all this |
| 04:56.17 | Uncle_Jesse | I guess I'm curious if it's an old company I have bitter feelings towards |
| 04:57.19 | emcnabb | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/23/flying_car/ |
| 04:57.21 | brac | [Flying car captured on Google Earth | The Register] |
| 04:57.47 | pmcnabb | uncle_jesse, too bad they don't have a good resolution around champaign, il... : ( |
| 04:58.59 | QBFreak | it looks like a car on a billboard to me |
| 04:59.11 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - all companies I'm bitter towards need better resolution ;-) (that wasn't me that brought up the google maps) |
| 05:00.10 | pmcnabb | ha ha, sorry.. i meant maquis |
| 05:00.28 | RyanE_ | I love google earth and google maps, but my neighborhood has better resolution on Microsoft's Local Live. |
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| 05:00.49 | RyanE_ | you can zoom in and see the trampoline in my back yard. |
| 05:01.21 | QBFreak | nice |
| 05:02.11 | RyanE_ | http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=40.438988~-111.775946&style=h&lvl=19 |
| 05:02.48 | RyanE_ | trampoline looks like a surface-mount chip on a green PC board. |
| 05:03.30 | QBFreak | sadly my house lacks the really good pictures |
| 05:03.39 | QBFreak | but I can make out the neighbor's roof, its a lot lighter than the trees |
| 05:05.07 | RyanE_ | on Google Earth, they're not quite as good, and maps.google.com you can just see the house and road, but no details. |
| 05:05.18 | RyanE_ | but none of them do Brasil very well. |
| 05:05.34 | RyanE_ | although on Google Earth I could pick out Itaipu and Foz do Iguacu, which was cool. |
| 05:05.53 | RyanE_ | QBFreak: Where? |
| 05:06.24 | QBFreak | Monroe, NC |
| 05:06.32 | Uncle_Jesse | google earth doesn't work on linux yet does it? |
| 05:06.48 | RyanE_ | don't think so. I run Windows for work, though, so I have it installed. |
| 05:07.03 | RyanE_ | I haven't tried live local on Linux, but it works in Firefox on Windows. |
| 05:07.19 | Uncle_Jesse | QBFreak: my last house was the same - the line of good activity was essentially across the street from me |
| 05:07.28 | QBFreak | heh |
| 05:07.45 | QBFreak | I found one of the houses we used to live in, many years ago, looks like the poor old shed is still out back |
| 05:08.19 | emcnabb | QBFreak, so you're from NC? |
| 05:08.27 | QBFreak | yup |
| 05:08.32 | QBFreak | does this mean I have to leave? :) |
| 05:08.37 | emcnabb | what are your ties to Utah? |
| 05:08.39 | emcnabb | nope :-) |
| 05:08.53 | QBFreak | none really :) |
| 05:08.56 | QBFreak | does this mean I have to move? :) |
| 05:09.01 | emcnabb | yes |
| 05:09.11 | QBFreak | darn |
| 05:09.14 | Uncle_Jesse | QBFreak: no - you just get to be a #utah wannabe like I used to be |
| 05:09.17 | emcnabb | NC is a great state, but I hate your basketball teams |
| 05:09.19 | emcnabb | all of them |
| 05:09.29 | Uncle_Jesse | I was in VA just 3 mos ago |
| 05:09.35 | RyanE_ | pretty country in NC. |
| 05:09.39 | emcnabb | our aunt lives in Jacksonville (on the coast) |
| 05:09.44 | emcnabb | we're going down there this summer |
| 05:10.07 | Uncle_Jesse | wow - live local is so much better in SLC compared to google maps |
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| 05:10.15 | Uncle_Jesse | google earth really needs a web client |
| 05:10.29 | QBFreak_ | yarg, I wondered why the images stopped updating |
| 05:10.34 | emcnabb | I've been down to RH's HQ too |
| 05:10.54 | emcnabb | Uncle_Jesse, wouldn't that be Google Maps? :-) |
| 05:10.58 | Uncle_Jesse | cool - homeowners before us had a trampoline |
| 05:11.08 | Uncle_Jesse | emcnabb: yeah, but it's not as good as google earth |
| 05:11.15 | emcnabb | I know, just kidding |
| 05:11.19 | Uncle_Jesse | I don't know why they don't just combine the two |
| 05:12.01 | Uncle_Jesse | I wish you could see when the picture was taken |
| 05:12.12 | QBFreak_ | hmm, is there an easy way for a bash script to tell its location? (not working dir) |
| 05:13.17 | emcnabb | what do you mean? the scripts name or path? |
| 05:13.30 | emcnabb | path to the script |
| 05:16.10 | emcnabb | he bravely ran away, he bravely ran away away |
| 05:16.32 | pmcnabb | quick, post the answer before he gets back.. |
| 05:20.48 | Newsome | dirname $0 |
| 05:20.56 | Uncle_Jesse | the answer is 42 |
| 05:22.05 | emcnabb | $ 42 |
| 05:22.06 | emcnabb | bash: 42: command not found |
| 05:22.10 | emcnabb | crap |
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| 05:22.34 | QBFreak | bah |
| 05:22.56 | Uncle_Jesse | QBFreak: I gave out the answer, but you weren't here |
| 05:23.45 | QBFreak | yeah, dunno what happened |
| 05:24.06 | pmcnabb | emcnabb, mine worked just fine |
| 05:24.07 | QBFreak | maybe my ISP got tired of me never disconnecting from anything :) |
| 05:24.11 | Newsome | dirname $0 |
| 05:24.27 | QBFreak | ah cool, thanks |
| 05:24.33 | pmcnabb | oh, wait, i had alias 42='dirname $0' in my .bashrc... |
| 05:24.59 | emcnabb | haha |
| 05:25.03 | Newsome | . |
| 05:25.25 | Uncle_Jesse | pmcnabb: good one - I was trying to think of a good way to make that work in a bash script |
| 05:27.32 | QBFreak | for what I'm doing, pushd `dirname $0` |
| 05:27.56 | QBFreak | and then the output occurs in the correct location :) |
| 05:28.04 | Uncle_Jesse | lol - simpsons tonight is funny |
| 05:28.43 | Uncle_Jesse | ~/o monorail! ~/o |
| 05:29.27 | emcnabb | ~seen mheath |
| 05:29.33 | ibot | mheath is currently on #utah (7h 19m 46s), last said: 'my sisters husband is a convicted rapist'. |
| 05:29.33 | mheath | ~seen emcnabb |
| 05:29.34 | ibot | emcnabb is currently on #utah (2h 15m 12s). Has said a total of 58 messages. Is idling for 7s, last said: '~seen mheath'. |
| 05:30.06 | mheath | emcnabb: you rang? |
| 05:30.23 | emcnabb | I was just thinking I hadn't seen you on much these days |
| 05:30.33 | emcnabb | but I haven't been on in the day much myself |
| 05:30.34 | mheath | I work a lot. |
| 05:30.44 | Uncle_Jesse | mheath: is your sister's husband really a convicted rapist? |
| 05:30.58 | mheath | Uncle_Jesse: Yes. |
| 05:31.26 | mheath | yah, my net worth == $647.64 |
| 05:31.46 | Uncle_Jesse | mheath: did he get better? |
| 05:31.58 | mheath | Uncle_Jesse: in my opinion, not really. |
| 05:33.18 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm looking at the registered sex offender registry for my new house's zip and there seems to be a lot more than there were in VA here |
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| 05:33.53 | Uncle_Jesse | I wonder if the problem here is bigger or if it is just pursued more here |
| 05:34.00 | mheath | My sisters pregnant right now. They live in a rundown apartnment, and he's a bit abusive. |
| 05:34.26 | Uncle_Jesse | mheath: that's not good |
| 05:34.58 | Uncle_Jesse | did she marry him before or after the rape? |
| 05:35.04 | mheath | after |
| 05:35.16 | QBFreak | mheath: bleh, bad family is no good |
| 05:35.18 | xbmodder_lappy | ouchy... |
| 05:35.53 | Newsome | ~lart scum |
| 05:36.08 | Uncle_Jesse | yikes - and she's still married - that's no good |
| 05:36.25 | mheath | He's been unfaithful since the marriage |
| 05:36.34 | Newsome | ~smack people who put up with scum |
| 05:36.35 | ibot | ACTION smacks people who put up with scum upside the head. |
| 05:36.37 | Uncle_Jesse | need us all to go knock some sense into him? |
| 05:36.46 | mheath | heh. Thanks for the offer. |
| 05:39.46 | maquis | mheath: seriously, i'm sorry for your sister, and for you having to know the situation she's in... |
| 05:39.48 | xbmodder_lappy | If 23 people sign up for phone service with me I can give out insane voip for 21.95 a month |
| 05:40.00 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, that must suck... |
| 05:40.10 | mheath | yeah, I hate the guy. |
| 05:40.20 | mheath | Hmm |
| 05:40.31 | maquis | sometimes people do stupid things and refuse to believe that it's stupid... |
| 05:40.41 | mheath | maquis: yep, too true. |
| 05:40.43 | maquis | even when it seems insanely obvious |
| 05:41.19 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, whats the worst that could happen? |
| 05:41.24 | xbmodder_lappy | if you ask her? |
| 05:42.18 | mheath | not sure if she likes me, though. I'm friends with her brother |
| 05:43.01 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, cool... is she your age? |
| 05:43.21 | mheath | a little bit younger. |
| 05:43.30 | maquis | how little bit? |
| 05:43.36 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 05:43.42 | mheath | A year and a half. |
| 05:43.49 | xbmodder_lappy | :-( |
| 05:43.59 | maquis | so... she's... 15 and you're 17? |
| 05:44.04 | mheath | I'm 16.75, she's 15. |
| 05:44.09 | maquis | ok... |
| 05:44.22 | xbmodder_lappy | some people might look at that oddly... |
| 05:44.25 | maquis | would her dad kill you for asking her out? |
| 05:45.00 | maquis | (some dads are that way with their daughters and older guys) |
| 05:45.10 | mheath | eh, maybe... |
| 05:45.23 | xbmodder_lappy | eh. Is she smart? |
| 05:45.32 | mheath | the thing is, her family is moving to california after a while |
| 05:45.38 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: yep :) |
| 05:45.38 | maquis | ok |
| 05:45.56 | maquis | i'd say that maybe you should invite her to do something... |
| 05:46.23 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, wait.. lemme bet, oakland, ca? |
| 05:46.34 | xbmodder_lappy | right... right? |
| 05:47.13 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: O.o I have no idea, really. |
| 05:47.30 | xbmodder_lappy | Hm... They brother's name is jason? |
| 05:47.47 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 05:47.55 | mheath | ..... |
| 05:48.09 | xbmodder_lappy | just saying... |
| 05:48.54 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, My reccomendation would be be careful, I know it happened to one of my friends (going out with a younger girl). Just saying, not a good idea. |
| 05:52.13 | Uncle_Jesse | wow - there is a guy who raped a minor living near the playground in my new neighborhood |
| 05:52.47 | xbmodder_lappy | wow. thats sick. |
| 05:59.17 | QBFreak | there's what my state calls a 'sex offender' in my neighborhood, did not know that |
| 06:00.01 | QBFreak | :( |
| 06:00.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Kinda scary how that stuff works out |
| 06:00.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I *had* a neighbor a few years back, was a foster family/house |
| 06:00.23 | Uncle_Jesse | guess we'll have to quiz my daughter tomorrow to be sure everything's okay |
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| 06:00.37 | ScytheBlade1 | FBI came knocking, he left the state, they found gig upon gig of child porn |
| 06:00.42 | Uncle_Jesse | scary |
| 06:00.48 | QBFreak | bleh |
| 06:00.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Note: foster house/family |
| 06:00.59 | QBFreak | some messed up people in this world :/ |
| 06:01.05 | ScytheBlade1 | The state was shippig him kids on a regular basis |
| 06:01.21 | QBFreak | they didn't check this sort of thing first? or he hadn't been caught yet? |
| 06:01.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Latter |
| 06:01.32 | maquis | Uncle_Jesse: ick... |
| 06:01.51 | ScytheBlade1 | He was later found in... I forget which state |
| 06:01.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrested on drug charged |
| 06:02.00 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - my wife and I are now a little peaved the mom didn't mention anything when she invited her over |
| 06:02.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I was talking to a friend about the utah registry... he plugged in his address, boom |
| 06:02.52 | ScytheBlade1 | He's taken fast offerings over to a local neighbor before who's listed for abuse of a minor |
| 06:03.06 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - utah seems to have really good records |
| 06:03.46 | Uncle_Jesse | virginia had very few records every time I entered a new address |
| 06:05.04 | QBFreak | waait, convicted in '94 (in hawaii), sentanced to 8 years, registered in NC in '99? |
| 06:05.50 | Uncle_Jesse | maybe laws didn't require it until 99 |
| 06:06.08 | Uncle_Jesse | those laws have only recently gotten stricter I believe |
| 06:06.32 | QBFreak | I mean a registered address in '99, after a '94 conviction with a sentance of 8 years? shouldn't have been out until '03 right? |
| 06:07.04 | Uncle_Jesse | unless he got parol |
| 06:07.17 | QBFreak | I guess, but don't they generally make you stay in the state? |
| 06:07.47 | Uncle_Jesse | don't know |
| 06:08.18 | levi | Yow, 60-100k as a perl programmer? What in the world am I coding in C for? I could learn to like perl, I think. ;) |
| 06:08.57 | levi | At least as much as I like C, that is. Which isn't a lot. |
| 06:09.27 | Uncle_Jesse | levi: that's partially why I was wondering what company it was |
| 06:09.27 | pmcnabb | levi, they're willing to pay 60-100 for someone who can _maintain_ someone else's perl code... ;) |
| 06:09.33 | Uncle_Jesse | that's pretty high for perl programming |
| 06:09.42 | Uncle_Jesse | especially only 3 years of perl |
| 06:09.52 | QBFreak | oh this is nice, registered in this zipcode but the street is 'unknown' |
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| 06:10.17 | Uncle_Jesse | levi: if you figure out the company let me know :-) |
| 06:10.26 | levi | I was expecting to come home, fire up my email client, and have a bunch of flames to respond to. Imagine my surprise... |
| 06:10.50 | pmcnabb | i hate those kids who burn mailboxes |
| 06:11.09 | pmcnabb | :D |
| 06:11.16 | Uncle_Jesse | ah - it's good ol Dan Handy's company |
| 06:11.25 | Uncle_Jesse | I'm surprised Dan didn't post that himself |
| 06:12.01 | Uncle_Jesse | It's definitely for more experience than the job description shows |
| 06:13.13 | levi | Well, if I'd been coding perl for as long as I've been coding at work in C, I'm sure I'd be qualified. |
| 06:14.16 | Uncle_Jesse | It's very tempting if it wasn't so new of a startup |
| 06:14.33 | Uncle_Jesse | and if I hadn't been at my current company for only 3 mos |
| 06:14.55 | Uncle_Jesse | it's tempting to forward that e-mail to my current boss to convince him to pay more ;-) |
| 06:15.05 | levi | Yeah, no kidding. |
| 06:15.37 | findlay | levi: yeah, this plug thingy isn't working out as advertized. The total flammability isn't living up to it's NFPA rating. Do you think I can take it back for a refund? |
| 06:15.40 | Uncle_Jesse | for a startup he must have a lot of money |
| 06:16.10 | levi | Uncle_Jesse: Well, someone who thinks it's a good idea must have a lot of money. |
| 06:16.30 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - I think I have an idea who that is |
| 06:16.32 | levi | findlay: Well, I'll take the happy agreement over flames any day. |
| 06:19.11 | findlay | ~flame |
| 06:19.13 | ibot | flame is probably something people do on newsgroups or irc or when they yell at each other |
| 06:20.18 | maquis | ~flame findlay |
| 06:20.19 | ibot | findlay sux0rz d00d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@!!!!!!!11 |
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| 06:24.33 | QBFreak | gah, I hope I never get mixed up with this guy, same first and middle name |
| 06:27.02 | maquis | QBFreak: there were 2 girls with same first, middle and last names as next-door neighbors in my building my freshman year... |
| 06:27.09 | QBFreak | crazy |
| 06:27.20 | maquis | our best guess as to how that happened is that the housing officials had something against the bishop |
| 06:27.30 | maquis | (or the ward clerk) |
| 06:27.33 | QBFreak | when I lived in Charlotte there was a guy with the exact same name that went to my doctor |
| 06:27.43 | QBFreak | we both showed up on the same day once |
| 06:27.47 | levi | maquis: How were they distinguished in conversation? |
| 06:28.57 | maquis | levi: by where they were from, iirc |
| 06:29.13 | maquis | because they were the same age... and in the same ward.... |
| 06:29.15 | levi | maquis: Were they named Jennifer? |
| 06:29.37 | QBFreak | ..this guy is smiling for his picture |
| 06:30.10 | maquis | levi: nope |
| 06:30.12 | maquis | sarah |
| 06:30.29 | maquis | although, my ward my sophomore year had 9 Amys and 7 stephens |
| 06:31.03 | QBFreak | gah, I was visiting a friend at his school often last year, and ended up meeting about 5 or 6 sara[h]s |
| 06:32.22 | Uncle_Jesse | my daughter's best friend in primary has the same name as her |
| 06:36.48 | Uncle_Jesse | well, good night guys |
| 06:36.56 | Uncle_Jesse | (and gal) |
| 06:37.01 | QBFreak | later uncle |
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| 06:40.30 | QBFreak | actually, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that girls don't exist on the internet |
| 06:40.47 | xbmodder_lappy | lol. |
| 06:41.02 | maquis | uh... right |
| 06:41.32 | invisible | or... as emcnabb's part message says... |
| 06:41.32 | xbmodder_lappy | how many people here would get PREMIER phone service for 21.95 a month (vmail, forwarding, long-distance, all) |
| 06:41.40 | fbi_agent | :) |
| 06:41.46 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 06:41.50 | QBFreak | I knew it! |
| 06:42.20 | QBFreak | aha, http://www.escapistmagazine.com/issue/17/27 |
| 06:43.12 | maquis | hahaha |
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| 14:39.11 | graphyx | morning |
| 14:39.18 | graphyx | DId everyone get snow like Utah County did? |
| 14:39.22 | graphyx | 3 inches last night. |
| 14:39.52 | hans | no, I didn't |
| 14:40.02 | graphyx | you're not in utah!! |
| 14:40.35 | graphyx | You may be in #utah, but you're not in Utah! |
| 14:44.16 | emcnabb | nope |
| 14:44.31 | emcnabb | it's actually fairly warm outside |
| 14:47.10 | hans | hi of 17C today |
| 15:06.28 | graphyx | -weather |
| 15:06.30 | brac | 32 minutes ago, on Thu Jan 26 14:35:00 UTC 2006, the wind was calm at KPVU. The temperature was 0 degrees Celsius (32 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1017 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 86.4%. There were overcast clouds at a height of 1250 meters (4100 feet). The visibility was 3.2 kilometers (2.0 miles). |
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| 15:07.31 | hans | -weather |
| 15:07.32 | brac | 36 minutes ago, on Thu Jan 26 14:32:00 UTC 2006, the wind was blowing at a speed of 2.06 meters per second (4.60 miles per hour) from the Northwest at KLRU. The temperature was 2 degrees Celsius (36 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1022 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 93.1%. There were scattered clouds at a height of 3353 meters (11000 feet). |
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| 15:17.04 | graphyx | anyone know where to look up weather station IDs? |
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| 15:47.19 | klys | morning all |
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| 15:52.31 | graphyx | xbmodder_lappy: Here you can have some of mine. Shall I sent it to you via 6 billion pings? |
| 15:52.50 | xbmodder_lappy | sure. |
| 15:52.55 | xbmodder_lappy | :( |
| 15:53.06 | klys | anyone know where I can get some cgi hosting? |
| 15:53.13 | klys | ...or perl |
| 15:53.16 | xbmodder_lappy | just send it to 207.46.250.119 or 207.46.130.108 |
| 15:53.18 | Jayce^ | lots of places, what are you looking for? |
| 15:53.21 | graphyx | almost anywhere? |
| 15:53.25 | xbmodder_lappy | klys, how much you want to pay? |
| 15:53.31 | xbmodder_lappy | how much bandwidth? |
| 15:53.33 | xbmodder_lappy | how much space? |
| 15:53.34 | jlp_work | graphyx: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/site.shtml |
| 15:53.42 | klys | I want a perl script to connect tcp to the requestor |
| 15:53.47 | Jayce^ | klys, pure cgi? or doing anything fancier |
| 15:53.54 | klys | it's pretty simple |
| 15:54.06 | Jayce^ | places that allow basic cgi are a dime a dozen |
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| 15:55.09 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah. 25 bucks for unlimited bandwidth and 5 gigs disk space. |
| 15:55.16 | xbmodder_lappy | SSH, etc... |
| 15:55.33 | klys | I don't know many places, and so I signed up for netfirms. but theirs gives me the error you see connecting to http://cybercon.netfirms.com/cgi-bin/ex5.cgi |
| 15:55.53 | klys | "connect: no route to host" |
| 15:56.08 | Jayce^ | heh, no route out.. |
| 15:56.42 | Jayce^ | a lot of hosts (like us) do that, to prevent spam/zombie/warez/etc |
| 15:56.43 | klys | so, free hosting, anywhere? |
| 15:56.57 | Jayce^ | free, most of us don't do cgi at free level |
| 15:56.58 | xbmodder_lappy | klys, free hosting? |
| 15:57.17 | klys | like, I don't want to pay for anything... |
| 15:57.27 | xbmodder_lappy | klys, I'll split my hosting with you for 8 bucks a month? |
| 15:57.36 | klys | it's just a simple script to connect my system to the requestor |
| 15:57.39 | jlp_work | graphyx: looks like this one is better: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/tg/siteloc.shtml |
| 15:59.12 | synic | hans: did you end up migrating to ejabberd ? |
| 15:59.25 | hans | yup |
| 15:59.30 | hans | on my server anyway |
| 15:59.35 | hans | plug is still jabberd |
| 15:59.35 | Jayce^ | got A/V working? |
| 16:00.01 | synic | cool |
| 16:00.06 | hans | a/v? |
| 16:00.13 | Jayce^ | audio or video |
| 16:00.19 | synic | I'm going to attempt to migrate from jabberd2 to ejabberd today.. |
| 16:00.22 | hans | in what context |
| 16:00.45 | Jayce^ | audio connection from you account to a google account, or such |
| 16:00.49 | Jayce^ | via your server |
| 16:01.09 | hans | and what client would do that? |
| 16:01.26 | synic | hans: did you find an erlang package for debian, or did you compile it? |
| 16:01.43 | Jayce^ | ichat maybe |
| 16:02.03 | Jayce^ | thought that was one of your reasons for moving |
| 16:02.05 | hans | ~spurn ichat |
| 16:02.21 | hans | no, just to be able to IM gtalk people |
| 16:02.27 | hans | I'll worry about voice when they support SIP |
| 16:02.44 | xbmodder_lappy | how hard do you think it'd be to convince my neighbors to buy into a T1/T3 line |
| 16:02.51 | xbmodder_lappy | or Frame Relay |
| 16:03.01 | Jayce^ | hrm, I'm using jabberd and seem to have talked to gtalk accounts |
| 16:03.24 | hans | yeah, turns out it wasn't jabberd's problem after all |
| 16:03.31 | Jayce^ | ah |
| 16:03.38 | hans | it's gtalk's quirk of not letting you talk to people that you haven't subscribed to |
| 16:03.54 | klys | routing question: when I connect to the cgi script, and it gets my router's ip and port, and now I'm listening on that port, can other systems connect to me? |
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| 16:04.19 | klys | I mean I'm listening on the port I initially connected from... |
| 16:06.09 | klys | I'm still sort of assuming the router will connect the cgi's return request to my port. |
| 16:09.06 | xbmodder_lappy | klys, e-mail me: xbmodder@gmail.com I will see what I can do. |
| 16:09.26 | klys | thx bud |
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| 16:15.14 | hans | -lart sjansen |
| 16:27.10 | klys | xbmodder_lappy: email sent |
| 16:31.09 | lukfugl|work | jon's at it again :) |
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| 16:47.58 | harleypig | woop woop |
| 16:48.11 | Uncle_Jesse | poow poow |
| 16:49.31 | sjansen | owpo wopo |
| 16:56.48 | Uncle_Jesse | That 60-100k on PLUG was made up by the recruiter FYI :-) |
| 16:59.21 | Jayce^ | I know places that are hiring at that rate though |
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| 17:03.53 | RyanE_ | As do I, but we don't use Perl... |
| 17:04.10 | RyanE_ | (not that there's anything *wrong* with that) |
| 17:08.34 | ECS | ~lart maquis |
| 17:08.58 | lukfugl|work | hmm, that lart needs gender-neutralizing :) |
| 17:11.28 | sjansen | lukfugl|work: nope, didn't help ;-) |
| 17:12.36 | lukfugl|work | heh |
| 17:12.48 | lukfugl|work | poor floor |
| 17:12.52 | lukfugl|work | being spanked like that |
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| 17:16.46 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: my experience has been only large, established businesses though. I'd be surprised to see that range in Utah for a startup |
| 17:17.10 | Uncle_Jesse | My company is close to that range, but nowhere near the higher end (yet) |
| 17:18.04 | sjansen | http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2570 |
| 17:18.06 | brac | [Play-Doh Can Foil 90% of Most Fingerprint Scanning Security Systems @ Alice Hill’s Real Tech News - Independent Tech] |
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| 17:18.15 | levi | sjansen: I'm glad to see that you got some good flames going in that thread after my email was utterly unsuccessful at fanning them. ;) |
| 17:18.54 | lukfugl|work | yeah, levi, you big concilia.. whatever.. thingie.. due |
| 17:19.52 | Uncle_Jesse | got me going...he always flames perl when java is mentioned |
| 17:20.01 | Uncle_Jesse | I have no clue what originated that discussion though |
| 17:20.35 | levi | Uncle_Jesse: Because perl suxxx0rz!!1 It's teh unreadable!!!1 |
| 17:21.18 | Uncle_Jesse | levi: that's cool - just don't say java is better ;-P |
| 17:21.39 | Uncle_Jesse | you can say java pays more though |
| 17:22.52 | levi | Perl just bugs me with all its weird contextual variables that get invisibly set. There seems to be a lot more implied (rather than explicit) information than in other languages I'm familiar with. |
| 17:23.06 | levi | Which I'm sure isn't a problem once you've mastered the basics of perl. |
| 17:25.52 | lukfugl|work | http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2006-01-24-ddr-gym-class_x.htm |
| 17:25.54 | brac | [USATODAY.com - Students going to gym to video dance] |
| 17:29.38 | RyanE | levi: that was my main contention with perl. It's like all the automagic globals are all an 'inside joke', and unless you're 'in on the joke', you can't read perl code. Once you know them, though, it's not all that bad. |
| 17:30.13 | lukfugl|work | back to work |
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| 17:35.27 | lars-ut | ~lart qwest copper |
| 17:36.30 | lars-ut | ELI rep: "yeah I can see some CRC errors on your PRI. It's porbably a bad cable pair or repeater." |
| 17:41.19 | sjansen | Things seems to be turning south for Jonathon Ellis with several people telling him he's a jerk. |
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| 17:49.56 | sjansen | What is the dpkg equivalent of rpm -q --whatrequires ? |
| 18:06.29 | levi | Sweet, CocoaBooklet: http://www.iconus.ch/fabien/cocoabooklet/ |
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| 18:10.44 | lars-ut-away | does ibot or brac have a way to mine all URLS from the channel for a given date interval? |
| 18:11.46 | sjansen | Probably not, but wget+grep+sed does. |
| 18:11.58 | sjansen | Or Perl, if you swing that way. |
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| 18:13.58 | lars-ut | TimRiker: does ibot or brac have a way to mine all URLS from the channel for a given date interval? |
| 18:21.25 | hans | lars-ut: unlikely |
| 18:21.40 | hans | -help urls |
| 18:21.40 | brac | urls [<max>=4] => list <max> last urls mentioned in current channel, urls search [<max>=4] <regexp> => search for matching urls. In a private message, you must specify the channel to query, eg. urls <channel> [max], urls search <channel> [max] <regexp> |
| 18:21.58 | hans | ibot doesn't even track urls I don't think |
| 18:22.34 | goozbach | what does one do with two weeks in Tallahasee? |
| 18:22.43 | lars-ut | play golf with alligators |
| 18:22.52 | hans | hit on girls with southern accents? |
| 18:23.08 | hans | go see the beverly hillbillies home? |
| 18:23.32 | lars-ut | goozbach: watch entire seasons of a sci-fi show you haven't seen before? |
| 18:23.43 | goozbach | hans: tallahasee, FL. not Tennesee |
| 18:23.55 | sjansen | start a small country with no taxes, open immigration, and spanish & portuguese recognized as official languages |
| 18:24.14 | hans | isn't tallahassee up in that handle thing? doesn't that qualify as southern? |
| 18:24.15 | lars-ut | vamó lá! |
| 18:24.19 | hans | but you're right, I did think tenessee |
| 18:25.10 | goozbach | it's sothern |
| 18:25.25 | goozbach | but jed clampett is from TN |
| 18:25.27 | RyanE | So how far from the space center then? |
| 18:25.45 | RyanE | and do you have a rental car with unlimited miles? |
| 18:25.54 | hans | goozbach: ah, see I didn't even know that much. :) |
| 18:26.06 | Tene | hansssee? |
| 18:26.31 | RyanE | nevermind. You're on the other side. |
| 18:26.58 | RyanE | man, my geography skillz are lacking. |
| 18:28.57 | synic | sweet... jabberd2->ejabberd migration was a success. |
| 18:32.04 | mheath | meh I feel miserable |
| 18:35.00 | lars-ut | ~emulate Ms Bitters |
| 18:35.02 | ibot | Everything was so nice and peaceful, 'til one day it all went horribly wrong! |
| 18:37.01 | lars-ut | the lars-ut low expectations movie scale includes 'worth seeing', 'not worth seeing', 'meh', and 'a big smile' |
| 18:37.43 | ECS | worth seeing for a dollar? |
| 18:38.16 | lars-ut | :) |
| 18:38.42 | lars-ut | depends on your taste in sci-fi & cartoons |
| 18:39.02 | lars-ut | I wish I would have gone to a THX screen |
| 18:39.46 | sjansen | synic: How hard? |
| 18:40.26 | synic | sjansen: setting up ejabberd /and/ migrating were a lot easier than setting up jabberd2. |
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| 18:41.00 | sjansen | The most consistent problem I've had with jabberd is synchronization of buddy authorization. I really don't want to re-auth all of my contacts. |
| 18:41.35 | synic | yeah - luckily I didn't have to reauth anyone |
| 18:42.13 | synic | I did lose my muc bookmarks, but that's no big deal |
| 18:42.37 | hans | what's muc anyway? |
| 18:43.00 | synic | multi user chat |
| 18:43.04 | hans | I was able to import everything into ejabberd from jabberd. At least, I haven't noticed anything different |
| 18:43.58 | lars-ut | Would folks here be interested in an opening night showing of Xmen 3 on May 26th? |
| 18:44.38 | synic | I would |
| 18:45.29 | synic | bbl |
| 18:45.42 | lars-ut | If there is a lot of interest I may look into buyin out a whole theater like we did for Star Wars Ep 3. |
| 18:46.08 | lars-ut | just let it be a geek event |
| 18:49.15 | Jayce^ | still hard to believe 'Frasier' is the beast |
| 18:50.25 | lars-ut | Kelsey Grammar - that is weird |
| 18:50.43 | lars-ut | better than Nathan Lane I suppose |
| 18:50.53 | Jayce^ | he does look good as the part though |
| 18:51.52 | mheath | bah, xmen |
| 18:51.53 | graphyx | lars-ut: Get opening night or something like that. |
| 18:52.01 | graphyx | And then you can sell the extra tickets for like 15$ at times. |
| 18:52.08 | mheath | Thats the only movie I'm really looking forward to |
| 18:52.24 | lars-ut | I think this would be a good one to do big - costumes and all. There's nothing like seeing a first-run movie on a THX screen opening night with costumes & enthusiatic fans |
| 18:52.33 | graphyx | mheath: I don't know about that one. I really liked the book, but I would have to have them slaughter it. |
| 18:52.46 | mheath | graphyx: Card is writing the screenplay. |
| 18:52.53 | mheath | graphyx: and producing it |
| 18:52.57 | lars-ut | mheath: whoa |
| 18:53.07 | mheath | He played with some other people writing it |
| 18:53.12 | mheath | And one was working on it for a while |
| 18:53.20 | mheath | But he decided he didn't like that idea, and decide to write it himself |
| 18:54.37 | lars-ut | thanks for the replies |
| 18:54.37 | mheath | Though.... |
| 18:54.40 | mheath | Even if Card does it |
| 18:54.52 | mheath | Your average person won't appreciate it, or understand the subtlties |
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| 18:56.24 | lars-ut | graphyx: last time we sold the tickets on a $1 margin and used that money to buy a few prizes and pay for ticket printing costs |
| 18:58.20 | graphyx | Cool. |
| 18:58.29 | TimRiker | lars-ut: ibot does not track urls. patches welcome. or google/grep the logs. ;-) |
| 18:58.49 | lars-ut | k |
| 18:58.51 | graphyx | mheath: Well that does bring out other potential problems. Card isn't a film producer. Might not be able to swing it. |
| 19:01.27 | scott | how do people manage their websites, between development systems and the live site? is cvs or subversion often used? |
| 19:01.54 | mheath | I've seen CVS used sometimes. |
| 19:02.31 | sjansen | we kind of use subversion, next time I revisit it I plan to switch to a distributed RCS like bazaar (because of certain advantages) |
| 19:02.53 | sjansen | check out switchtower, it's not limited to just rails and seems to be getting pretty popular |
| 19:04.02 | sjansen | minam (Jamis Buck, its creator and local Ruby guru) recently announced he's going to be writing a book on it for O'Reilly |
| 19:10.39 | scott | did you rails guys get one of the books about it or just use the various tutorials? |
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| 19:21.45 | elg | charter a plane |
| 19:22.06 | lars-ut | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000063AH7/104-6894319-6941510?current-page-variant=TFCV#reader |
| 19:22.09 | brac | [Amazon.com: Cafe Ethiopa: Restaurants] |
| 19:22.20 | elg | quick, can I get latex to give me 1" borders and a title that doesn't take half a page? |
| 19:22.35 | elg | without excessive amounts of work |
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| 19:26.16 | sjansen | heh |
| 19:26.38 | elg | I need to start typing this report and I need to know whether to fire up vim or openoffice |
| 19:27.06 | sjansen | Maybe. My experience is that custom latex layouts and "without excessive work" are mutuall exclusive. |
| 19:27.22 | sjansen | When's it due? |
| 19:27.32 | elg | I was thinking along the lines of \usepackage{fullpage} which I think gets me 1" margins |
| 19:27.48 | elg | but the paper is supposed to be "2 pages" and I think if the title takes half of the first page that's probably bad form |
| 19:27.55 | elg | tomorrow 1:30 |
| 19:29.22 | elg | I think doing two-column will handle the margin problem too |
| 19:39.33 | elg | I guess I can use a title page. |
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| 19:46.52 | Hhhhh | hmm |
| 19:46.54 | Hhhhh | latex? |
| 19:46.57 | Hhhhh | why not use PDF? |
| 19:47.17 | Hhhhh | just do it in OpenOffice? |
| 19:47.33 | elg | because I prefer typing in vim |
| 19:47.44 | Hhhhh | heh |
| 19:47.46 | Hhhhh | I' |
| 19:47.57 | elg | and I like that latex makes things look good with 0 effort |
| 19:47.59 | jsmith | elg: DocBook? |
| 19:48.00 | Hhhhh | I'd rather use a tool made for making documents |
| 19:48.10 | elg | ~smack jsmith |
| 19:48.11 | ibot | ACTION smacks jsmith upside the head. |
| 19:48.19 | Hhhhh | I don't go for "one tool fits all" |
| 19:48.20 | elg | are you saying latex isn't made for making documents? |
| 19:48.22 | sjansen | ~smack Hhhhh |
| 19:48.24 | ibot | ACTION smacks Hhhhh upside the head. |
| 19:48.27 | jsmith | ~smack elg back |
| 19:48.28 | ibot | ACTION smacks elg back upside the head. |
| 19:48.29 | elg | you obviously don't type enough |
| 19:48.36 | Hhhhh | nah, I'm saying that latex takes longer than OpenOffice + PDF |
| 19:48.52 | Hhhhh | but do as you want |
| 19:48.53 | elg | nonsense |
| 19:48.53 | sjansen | Depends on how well you know latex. |
| 19:49.09 | Hhhhh | ok, whatever |
| 19:49.11 | sjansen | Now that I know ConTeXt, it's infinitely faster than mousing around and fighting a GUI. |
| 19:49.13 | elg | especially when you will be including math as I probably will be |
| 19:49.18 | Hhhhh | I just don't go for "one tool fits all" |
| 19:49.32 | elg | I don't either. But I do go for one tool fits the same job over and over |
| 19:49.37 | elg | that job is typing, and my tool is vim |
| 19:49.49 | Hhhhh | k |
| 19:49.56 | sjansen | Hhhhh: Of course not. sed never claimed to be a replacement for grep (although it could be) |
| 19:50.30 | sjansen | Any solution that involves Vim + some other tool(s) is probably a good solution. |
| 19:50.39 | Hhhhh | sure |
| 19:50.42 | sjansen | ~praise Vim, the One True Editor |
| 19:50.43 | ibot | All hail Vim, the One True Editor! |
| 19:50.58 | Hhhhh | I just avoid sacred tools (like vim and emacs) because they make peopel close up |
| 19:52.33 | elg | that's a silly reason |
| 19:52.36 | sjansen | I avoid sacred technologies like electricity and telephones because they make people close up. ;-) |
| 19:52.54 | elg | people use them because they're good. they get religious because they're people. don't avoid using good tools because people are people |
| 19:52.54 | Hhhhh | heh, if you prefer to use your tool, do as you please |
| 19:53.16 | Hhhhh | nah, I've found a lot of other tools that seem to be much better suited than vim and emacs for my needs |
| 19:53.23 | elg | great |
| 19:53.44 | elg | more power to you. you're the one that chuckled, remember |
| 19:53.54 | Hhhhh | chuckled? |
| 19:54.25 | elg | Hhhhh: heh |
| 19:54.25 | elg | Hhhhh: I'd rather use a tool made for making documents |
| 19:54.39 | Hhhhh | heh != chuckle |
| 19:54.42 | Hhhhh | but whatever |
| 19:54.47 | elg | doesn't it? |
| 19:55.01 | elg | what does heh equal then? |
| 19:55.30 | elg | anyway, you brought it up, so you got my explanation of why I like latex/vim. that's all, no problem and no big deal |
| 19:55.42 | Hhhhh | that's fine, I've no problem with it |
| 19:55.52 | Hhhhh | I prefer to avoid those tools unless I'm SSH'ing |
| 19:55.59 | elg | yup, you've said that |
| 19:58.58 | elg | I just wanted to be clear that I'm not trying to shove it down your throat, I blabbered on about it because you asked for it. you were starting to sound defensive. :) |
| 19:59.32 | Hhhhh | nah, that's fine |
| 20:01.09 | elg | this essay is stupid. we have to write it because the accreditors require it of undergrads and this is a mixed class. nobody, including the teacher, cares about it |
| 20:09.47 | levi | elg: What essay? |
| 20:12.03 | elg | basically a review of an article that discusses something related to DSP |
| 20:13.54 | levi | Hmm. Well, it's only 2 pages. |
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| 20:18.47 | elg | yeah, it's not hard. just stupid |
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| 20:23.09 | levi | elg: That's school for you. :) |
| 20:23.55 | elg | yup :) and work. there's no escaping it. people want you to do stupid things |
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| 20:30.44 | xbmodder_lappy | hey klys |
| 20:30.46 | xbmodder_lappy | you there |
| 20:30.48 | xbmodder_lappy | ~seen klys |
| 20:30.54 | ibot | klys is currently on #utah (4h 48m 10s). Has said a total of 15 messages. Is idling for 4h 3m 44s, last said: 'xbmodder_lappy: email sent'. |
| 20:31.03 | Tene | vim+latex=awesome |
| 20:31.17 | Tene | especially with the vim-latex plugin |
| 20:31.27 | xbmodder_lappy | vim = evil... |
| 20:31.52 | Tene | If I were to try making documents in anything else, it would take quite a bit longer and wouldn't look close to as nice. |
| 20:33.31 | xbmodder_lappy | thanks... |
| 20:33.41 | levi | http://www.hacknot.info/hacknot/action/showEntry?eid=81 |
| 20:33.44 | mheath | What in the world? |
| 20:34.23 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, what? |
| 20:34.31 | mheath | "Make sure you download a stage3 tarball - installations using a stage1 or stage2 tarball are not supported anymore." |
| 20:34.33 | mheath | Isn |
| 20:34.44 | mheath | Isn't this like...really contrary to Gentoo's mission and concept? |
| 20:34.56 | xbmodder_lappy | Did you decide on your neighbor? Yeah since 2005.3 or something it has not been supported. |
| 20:35.24 | levi | mheath: Well, it's a sign that Gentoo is no longer entirely contrary to sanity. |
| 20:35.31 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, yeah, well stupid idiots were breaking things. Their outlook is: If you need it you can do it. |
| 20:35.32 | mheath | What am I supposed to do? I don't *want* stage 3. |
| 20:35.41 | xbmodder_lappy | use stage1... |
| 20:35.57 | levi | mheath: Cry me a river. |
| 20:36.11 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, how much will you pay him? |
| 20:36.23 | Tene | mheath: "not supported" is different from "you can't do it" |
| 20:36.46 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: Pay him for what? You make no sense. |
| 20:36.51 | xbmodder_lappy | exactly. |
| 20:37.03 | xbmodder_lappy | http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/x86/current/stages/x86/stage1-x86-2005.1-r1.tar.bz2 |
| 20:37.09 | mheath | Tene: The documentation doesn't cover it, though |
| 20:37.13 | xbmodder_lappy | hopefully brac doesn't try to fetch that... |
| 20:37.19 | mheath | And I'm not sure I can remember perfectly how to do it |
| 20:37.28 | xbmodder_lappy | its simple. All the normal steps but scripts/bootstrap.sh |
| 20:37.29 | xbmodder_lappy | and umm |
| 20:37.32 | xbmodder_lappy | emerge system |
| 20:39.34 | sjansen | Oo! There's a fun way to DOS brac. |
| 20:39.37 | mheath | Well, is there anyway of intelligently unmerging things on Gentoo? |
| 20:39.47 | xbmodder_lappy | sjansen, your evil. |
| 20:39.52 | Tene | "unmerge"... |
| 20:39.53 | xbmodder_lappy | emerge -C package |
| 20:39.57 | elg | sjansen: sorry, I'm a step ahead of you |
| 20:39.58 | mheath | Yeah |
| 20:40.03 | Tene | that word irritates me |
| 20:40.10 | xbmodder_lappy | Tene, hehe |
| 20:40.12 | mheath | But if I just unmerge gpm, for example... |
| 20:40.14 | elg | at least I think I am. it checks the header for the mime type or something |
| 20:40.21 | elg | I hope I actually implemented that, anyhow |
| 20:40.27 | xbmodder_lappy | why do you want to unmerge GPM? |
| 20:40.28 | mheath | My entire system becomes dysfunctional, because half my stuff is linked to gpm. |
| 20:40.36 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: because this is for a server. |
| 20:40.43 | mheath | That doesn't have a mouse. Or a ps/2 port. |
| 20:40.59 | xbmodder_lappy | revdep-rebuild... |
| 20:41.30 | Tene | mheath: don't install gpm in the first place |
| 20:42.40 | Tene | >.> |
| 20:42.41 | mheath | Tene: Thats what I'm saying. They're recommending that you do stage3 installs only in Gentoo, but stage3 contains some junk (like gpm) that I don't need. |
| 20:42.52 | Tene | so don't do stage3 |
| 20:43.01 | xbmodder_lappy | who owns brac? http://xbmodder.us/brac.html |
| 20:43.28 | xbmodder_lappy | http://xbmodder.us |
| 20:43.33 | xbmodder_lappy | brac is fetching it.. |
| 20:44.04 | xbmodder_lappy | hilarious: 166.70.27.960/01412422/10485768write44xbmodder.us/brac.html/var/web/thebrokenwargames.gotdns.com/brac.html |
| 20:44.24 | xbmodder_lappy | sadly my upload ain't as big as his download. |
| 20:45.29 | elg | what is it? |
| 20:45.29 | elg | I get nothing in the browser |
| 20:45.30 | *** mode/#utah [+o elg] by ChanServ |
| 20:46.02 | xbmodder_lappy | whoa |
| 20:46.09 | xbmodder_lappy | no need for +o |
| 20:46.36 | levi | Heh, it's fun to watch xbmodder squirm in his guilt. |
| 20:46.39 | xbmodder_lappy | http://google.com |
| 20:46.40 | brac | [Google] |
| 20:46.42 | Tene | Feeling a little guilty, xbm? |
| 20:46.47 | xbmodder_lappy | oh brac is alive again.... |
| 20:46.48 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 20:47.02 | Tene | Why do you presume the +o means discipline for you? |
| 20:47.09 | xbmodder_lappy | umm... |
| 20:47.12 | Tene | I accuse you of.. .erm... something! |
| 20:47.17 | Tene | And Things! |
| 20:47.25 | xbmodder_lappy | because thats the only reason that people have +o in this channel |
| 20:47.26 | Tene | You did Things and Stuff, didn't you! |
| 20:47.31 | Tene | Is to abuse you? |
| 20:47.43 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach's flood control. TimRiker is to help gooz |
| 20:47.54 | xbmodder_lappy | ibot < so he can kick me for roullete. |
| 20:48.09 | xbmodder_lappy | umm chanserv -- because astinus (staffer) is stalking me. |
| 20:48.11 | xbmodder_lappy | umm... |
| 20:48.15 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 20:48.17 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 20:48.29 | elg | xbmodder_lappy: putting a binary as html is foul play and you know it. lucky I don't pay for bandwidth |
| 20:50.18 | xbmodder_lappy | lol. |
| 20:50.34 | findlay\ | hmm |
| 20:50.42 | xbmodder_lappy | It was proof of concept. |
| 20:50.50 | Tene | erm... that's just rude, xbm. |
| 20:50.58 | xbmodder_lappy | I could do some really evil things if I wanted to... |
| 20:50.58 | Tene | You don't need to prove it. |
| 20:51.02 | xbmodder_lappy | findlay_plus_o, what are you doing? |
| 20:51.10 | findlay_plus_o | I'm intimidating you |
| 20:51.12 | xbmodder_lappy | Tene, I wanted to see how brac was built. |
| 20:51.17 | findlay_plus_o | cause I have +o now |
| 20:51.25 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 20:51.29 | goozbach | hmmm |
| 20:52.11 | elg | xbmodder_lappy: that's the beauty of open source, you can just look |
| 20:52.20 | xbmodder_lappy | elg, where is brac? |
| 20:52.27 | Tene | brac: brac |
| 20:52.27 | xbmodder_lappy | -brac |
| 20:52.31 | xbmodder_lappy | brac |
| 20:52.31 | goozbach | brac: introduce youself |
| 20:52.32 | brac | xbmodder_lappy: salut |
| 20:52.36 | goozbach | brac: introduce yourself |
| 20:52.36 | brac | I'm a v. 0.9.9 rubybot, (c) Tom Gilbert - http://linuxbrit.co.uk/rbot/ |
| 20:52.37 | sjansen | elg: you could stop after the first 1k 'cause it the title ain't inside that it ain't there |
| 20:52.43 | xbmodder_lappy | oh.. fun... |
| 20:52.50 | elg | yup, sure could |
| 20:54.08 | xbmodder_lappy | 'cept then if the bot was multithreaded you could send it quite a few URLs to make the thing crash |
| 20:54.15 | sjansen | elg: While you're still in $Deity mode, mind a little -t? |
| 20:54.26 | xbmodder_lappy | and/or fill up his connection table |
| 20:54.34 | xbmodder_lappy | why are we +t anyways? |
| 20:55.18 | findlay_plus_o | what's +t? |
| 20:55.30 | xbmodder_lappy | no topic changes by non-dieties. |
| 20:55.46 | elg | why are we +t? |
| 20:55.56 | *** mode/#utah [-t] by Jayce^ |
| 20:55.59 | Tene | Because sometimes people like you come in here, xbm. |
| 20:56.12 | Jayce^ | elg, because Tim was making fun of jesse :) |
| 20:57.06 | xbmodder_lappy | Tene, i only screwed with the topic -once- |
| 20:57.35 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: The point is, we don't trust you. |
| 20:57.54 | Tene | xbm: I didn't know that you ever had, I just presumed from your general behavior. |
| 20:58.31 | Tene | You really haven't been very friendly in here or much of a good contributing member of the community. |
| 20:58.57 | Tene | At least, from what I've seen. |
| 20:59.29 | xbmodder_lappy | be right back... gotta brush tongue (got thrush) |
| 20:59.54 | sjansen | In his defense, xbmodder_lappy has gotten better with time. |
| 20:59.54 | goozbach | and he leaveason on that note |
| 21:00.03 | findlay_plus_o | have to brush the tongue of your bird? |
| 21:00.12 | findlay_plus_o | with a bird tounge brush |
| 21:00.52 | goozbach | everybody starts out as an IRC noob |
| 21:01.14 | goozbach | I know at one point... LONG ago I was an annoying teen on an IRC channel |
| 21:01.32 | goozbach | now I'm an annoying young adult |
| 21:02.12 | sjansen | ~pester goozbach |
| 21:02.14 | ibot | goozbach: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
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| 21:05.06 | findlay_plus_o | welcome O wise and sage guru |
| 21:05.08 | the1trueGuru | Hi all |
| 21:05.37 | the1trueGuru | Just showing some students the awesome coolness of IRC ... especially #utah :) |
| 21:05.49 | xbmodder_lappy | sorry about that, my tongue was hurting.. sjansen thanks, I've tried to get better. |
| 21:06.00 | xbmodder_lappy | uh-oh |
| 21:06.09 | xbmodder_lappy | Shouldn't have said that.. |
| 21:06.47 | sjansen | ~funkybomb the1trueGuru |
| 21:06.49 | ibot | ACTION blows away the1trueGuru in a psychedelic flash |
| 21:06.57 | xbmodder_lappy | ~lart the1trueGuru |
| 21:07.01 | sjansen | ~travolta the1trueGuru |
| 21:07.03 | ibot | ACTION replaces the1trueGuru with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 21:07.36 | findlay_plus_o | howcome sjansen knows all the ibot cheats? |
| 21:07.50 | the1trueGuru | he wrote most of them, I'm sure. |
| 21:07.53 | jlp_work | he asked it, maybe? |
| 21:08.41 | the1trueGuru | well, I'm going to turn the page now... later folks. Thanks for the demonstration of your kindness :). |
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| 21:09.06 | sjansen | actually, I did write about 50% of what I use |
| 21:09.30 | findlay_plus_o | ~sjansen xbmodder_lappy |
| 21:09.43 | sjansen | ~whaleslap findlay_plus_o |
| 21:09.44 | ibot | I'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap findlay_plus_o over the head with it..... |
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| 21:10.01 | sjansen | That was the first ~lart I ever learned. |
| 21:13.09 | TimRiker | Someone(tm) really needs to turn lart into a user editable list. |
| 21:13.27 | TimRiker | ~fishslap sjansen for old times sake |
| 21:13.28 | ibot | ACTION slaps sjansen up side the head with a wet fish for old times sake |
| 21:15.03 | Tene | ~moose |
| 21:15.04 | ibot | methinks moose is moose-penis |
| 21:15.07 | Tene | ~moose sjansen |
| 21:15.12 | Tene | o.O |
| 21:15.38 | elg | ~forget moose |
| 21:15.38 | ibot | elg: i forgot moose |
| 21:16.00 | elg | ~moose is elg |
| 21:16.01 | ibot | elg: okay |
| 21:16.01 | elg | ~elg |
| 21:16.03 | ibot | i heard hans is the gdmxml guy, or having trouble with the bot, or the designer of the desert color scheme for vim, now part of the main package, or from Santa Fe, New Mexico, going to BYU and hopefully graduating soon... |
| 21:16.05 | Tene | ~literal whaleslap |
| 21:16.06 | ibot | "whaleslap" is "your mom" |
| 21:22.57 | sjansen | ~hug sigwinch |
| 21:22.58 | ibot | ACTION hugs sigwinch |
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| 21:25.47 | levi | My coworker has created this repository with a zillion deeply nested directories, and some of them aren't appearing when I check it out and do updates and such. |
| 21:27.23 | Tene | awesome! |
| 21:28.39 | levi | And I can't find the coworker anywhere. |
| 21:29.05 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 21:34.25 | xbmodder_lappy | :( |
| 21:38.59 | xbmodder_lappy | thats what talking to other teenagers does to you... |
| 21:39.05 | elg | levi, maybe you need -d |
| 21:39.08 | elg | cvs update -d |
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| 21:43.03 | Peregrine | Hey, guys ... thanks for entertaining my students earlier :) . |
| 21:43.45 | Peregrine | ~travolta sjansen |
| 21:43.46 | ibot | ACTION replaces sjansen with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 21:44.18 | xbmodder_lappy | Peregrine, what class |
| 21:45.02 | levi | elg: No, maybe CVS is just a broken pile of steaming donkey turds. |
| 21:45.16 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, use svn |
| 21:45.38 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: I don't want your advice. |
| 21:47.15 | levi | elg: In other words, I've tried several command line flags, and things are just in a horribly inconsistent state between what gets checked out with a clean checkout, what I can commit from the coworker's working directory, and what I can update at my working directory. |
| 21:47.26 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, thanks... |
| 21:48.48 | elg | levi: that too |
| 21:48.52 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: I work out in the real world, where 'use svn' is an utterly useless piece of 'advice' when there's an existing project with a large codebase and a long revision history and I'm not in charge of the repository. |
| 21:49.33 | Jayce^ | levi, amen.. I'd love for us to use something else here, but changing years worth of code over aint easy |
| 21:49.39 | Jayce^ | and all the people involved |
| 21:53.03 | sjansen | levi: use svn |
| 21:53.16 | levi | sjansen: Go jump off a cliff. |
| 21:53.17 | elg | ~svn levi |
| 21:54.37 | mheath | I hate getting a hold of people who have meetings and secreteries |
| 21:54.44 | mheath | Businessmen, school administrators, etc. |
| 21:54.56 | sjansen | cvs co -rHAPPYLISPER levi |
| 21:55.18 | mheath | It's impossible to speak to the person you want to speak to. |
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| 21:56.41 | mheath | Is anyone here a parent? I just want to know someones opinion...... |
| 21:56.53 | elg | someone is |
| 21:57.21 | mheath | Heh |
| 21:58.15 | mheath | Would you think it was bad or inappopriate if a representitive of a military-related youth organization (similar to JROTC) came into one of your childs junior high classes and gave a short presentation on the organization, in order to get interest? |
| 21:59.03 | elg | no but I'm sure some liberal wackos would |
| 21:59.13 | mheath | Assuming that the organization just had ties to the military, and does not pressure or force the child into any kind of military service |
| 22:00.02 | sjansen | wow, my boss discovered that after opening ~250 tabs firefox dies |
| 22:00.14 | mheath | I've been trying to get a hold of the principal of the junior high I attended |
| 22:00.18 | mheath | Get permission to do just that |
| 22:00.35 | mheath | I keep having to talk through his secretaries, and I get the impression that they're misrepresenting the idea to him. |
| 22:00.40 | bonez39 | I ssh'd to my home system, ran apt-get update and then upgrade...and yet it's stopped..and I can't kill it.... how do I clear it so I can run apt-get upgrade on remote system? |
| 22:00.44 | bonez39 | both are running debian 3.1 |
| 22:00.49 | Peregrine | Now, tell the whole thing, sjansen ... that's ~250 firefox tabs with a quicky little piece of JS in it, right? |
| 22:02.15 | lukfugl|work | sjansen: lemme guess... 257 tabs? |
| 22:03.11 | elg | http://www.waterfall2006.com/ |
| 22:03.35 | brac | [Waterfall 2006 - International Conference on Sequential Development] |
| 22:03.36 | Peregrine | back to work for me ... later all. |
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| 22:03.53 | lukfugl|work | heh |
| 22:03.57 | lukfugl|work | I like the conference date |
| 22:04.10 | elg | be sure to click on register |
| 22:04.23 | lukfugl|work | hah |
| 22:26.43 | Hhhhh | hmm |
| 22:26.56 | Hhhhh | sjansen, did you get snes9x to work in your zaurus? |
| 22:27.04 | sjansen | never tried |
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| 22:33.26 | Robdor | anybody here familier with unsermake? |
| 22:34.08 | Robdor | I mean familiary.... |
| 22:34.12 | Robdor | crap! |
| 22:34.18 | xbmodder_lappy | hah |
| 22:34.23 | Robdor | familiar |
| 22:34.37 | Robdor | I just had one of those moments |
| 22:37.33 | lars-ut | an accidental rm -rf moment? |
| 22:37.52 | Robdor | something like that |
| 22:39.25 | lars-ut | Not to long ago I nuked my presonal collection of 17GB of mp3s with one of those moments |
| 22:39.38 | xbmodder_lappy | that SUCKS |
| 22:39.50 | lars-ut | I haven't been able to type or spell correctly since. |
| 22:39.56 | levi | Only 17Gb? At least you didn't have a big collection. ;) |
| 22:39.56 | lars-ut | :) |
| 22:40.01 | lars-ut | levi: ouch. |
| 22:40.45 | lars-ut | I heard "Little Fluffy Clouds" by The Orb the other day on somafm, and thought, hey I've got that track. |
| 22:40.51 | lars-ut | Then I remembered I deleted it. |
| 22:41.02 | levi | Hmmm. I wonder if I still have it. |
| 22:41.57 | levi | Ahh, I think I do. |
| 22:42.05 | levi | Still mislabled as Orbital. |
| 22:42.15 | lars-ut | cbr or vbr? |
| 22:42.50 | levi | It's probably 128kbit cbr, it's really old. I probably got it from Napster. |
| 22:43.01 | lars-ut | ahh... napster.... |
| 22:43.14 | lars-ut | those were also the days of mp3.com |
| 22:43.29 | lars-ut | when those 2 names had good stuff. |
| 22:44.33 | lars-ut | You used to be able to load a CD into the drive for CDDB identification with mp3.com, and then boom, it was available for streaming anytime. |
| 22:44.54 | lars-ut | {sniff} it was beautiful. |
| 22:45.35 | lars-ut | the MPAA thought differently. |
| 22:46.55 | bonez39 | anybody, on how to clear a badly started 'apt-get upgrade -&' on a remote system? |
| 22:48.07 | xbmodder_lappy | bonez39, can you SSH into it? |
| 22:48.34 | bonez39 | xbmodder_, yeah, I can ssh to the remote system..... |
| 22:48.34 | *** part/#utah ECS (n=ECS@128.187.154.57) |
| 22:48.49 | bonez39 | I was going to run apt-get upgrade and then bail out..let it run and finish....but it hung in the process |
| 22:50.33 | xbmodder_lappy | bonez39, kill -9? |
| 22:50.57 | xbmodder_lappy | cat the process file, see whats breaking it. |
| 22:51.41 | maquis | ~seen phinux |
| 22:51.50 | ibot | phinux <n=phinux@iocane.cs.byu.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 9d 5h 58m 52s ago, saying: 'opps. Sorry guys, that was supposed to be in my browser.'. |
| 22:53.58 | xbmodder_lappy | ha |
| 22:58.06 | bonez39 | xbmodder_, well, what does the -9 signify? |
| 22:58.35 | bonez39 | I see the process # when running 'ps ax | grep apt-get' .. and I kill that PID , but it still is there...doesn't make it go away |
| 23:01.43 | Bradipo | bonez39: You really don't need -9 |
| 23:01.59 | Bradipo | -9 especially won't help if the process is blocked on I/O. |
| 23:01.59 | brac | lemme take care of that for you |
| 23:02.11 | Bradipo | -9 why? |
| 23:02.11 | brac | ...eh? |
| 23:02.26 | Bradipo | -9 is this something you are trained for? |
| 23:02.26 | brac | I can't do that Dave. |
| 23:02.37 | Bradipo | -9 interesting. |
| 23:02.45 | levi | -I think it's the dash |
| 23:02.55 | levi | -8 Hmm. |
| 23:03.03 | Bradipo | - dash with a ? |
| 23:03.04 | brac | I can't do that Dave. |
| 23:03.04 | levi | -9 Maybe it is -9 |
| 23:03.04 | brac | okies! |
| 23:03.07 | *** part/#utah bonez39 (n=bonez@drjones.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 23:03.13 | Bradipo | - ? |
| 23:03.17 | levi | -9 |
| 23:03.20 | Bradipo | -9? |
| 23:03.21 | brac | dunno |
| 23:03.30 | levi | -9 hi, brac |
| 23:03.31 | Bradipo | -8? |
| 23:03.31 | brac | ...eh? |
| 23:03.43 | Bradipo | -7? |
| 23:03.43 | brac | you best check yo'self! |
| 23:03.47 | Bradipo | -6? |
| 23:03.48 | brac | beats me |
| 23:03.53 | Bradipo | 5? |
| 23:03.58 | Bradipo | -5? |
| 23:03.58 | brac | who knows? |
| 23:04.00 | levi | -Hmm? |
| 23:04.00 | brac | no clue |
| 23:04.10 | levi | -? |
| 23:04.13 | levi | - ? |
| 23:04.17 | levi | -foo? |
| 23:04.18 | brac | who knows? |
| 23:04.34 | levi | Now that we've spammed everyone... |
| 23:04.39 | Bradipo | Hehe. |
| 23:04.51 | Bradipo | -Just testing out this brac thingy? |
| 23:04.52 | brac | no idea |
| 23:05.22 | maquis | -lart levi and Bradipo |
| 23:05.33 | levi | ~lart maquis |
| 23:05.37 | Bradipo | -brac why would you do something like that? |
| 23:05.37 | brac | no idea |
| 23:05.37 | maquis | you two share a forehead? |
| 23:05.46 | maquis | -why? |
| 23:05.46 | brac | *shrug* |
| 23:06.07 | levi | Maybe we're both wearing prosthetic foreheads on our real heads. |
| 23:07.52 | Bradipo | Hmm, that word always reminds me of TMBG. |
| 23:08.17 | xbmodder_lappy | -lart brac |
| 23:10.41 | jlp_work | he he |
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| 23:19.41 | lars-ut | ~Dr Worm |
| 23:19.42 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, dr worm is "Call me Dr Worm. Good Morning how are you, I'm Dr Worm I'm interested in things. I'm not a real doctor, But I am a real worm; I am an actual worm. I live like a worm. I like to play the drums. I think I'm getting good, But I can handle criticism. I'll show you what I know, And you can tell me if you think I'm getting ... |
| 23:20.27 | lars-ut | Bradipo: that was for you. |
| 23:20.39 | maquis | shouldn't that be in a reply... |
| 23:20.52 | lars-ut | ~assimilate maquis |
| 23:20.54 | ibot | ACTION jams assimilation tubes into maquis's neck and injects Borg nanobots. |
| 23:21.15 | lars-ut | there's your reply. |
| 23:21.42 | lars-ut | maquis: how many times have you dies this week? |
| 23:21.54 | lars-ut | s/dies/died |
| 23:22.09 | maquis | lots |
| 23:23.25 | lars-ut | -lart ibot |
| 23:23.32 | lars-ut | ~lart brac |
| 23:25.52 | Tene | -lart brac |
| 23:25.58 | Tene | -lart brac |
| 23:26.03 | Tene | That's better. |
| 23:27.19 | lars-ut | just had to be persistent |
| 23:33.57 | Tene | hmm? |
| 23:33.59 | Tene | you try it. |
| 23:35.23 | xbmodder_lappy | Do you guys know any good ISPs for DSL. Preferably fastrack. |
| 23:35.47 | Tene | fastrack? |
| 23:36.11 | xbmodder_lappy | fast track. |
| 23:36.28 | xbmodder_lappy | I need about 512k upstream |
| 23:42.39 | xbmodder_lappy | god it feels like calling 911 |
| 23:43.05 | Tene | ??? |
| 23:43.17 | sjansen | !!! |
| 23:43.21 | Tene | xbm: don't you live kind of... not in Utah? |
| 23:43.23 | Tene | ... |
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| 23:48.14 | sjansen | "Take me to your bandwidth." <-- shirt idea |
| 23:48.31 | maquis | sjansen: nice :) |
| 23:50.25 | xbmodder_lappy | funny.. submit it to jinx hackwear, your might win.. |
| 23:50.28 | lars-ut | sjansen: needs a pound sign somewhere |
| 23:51.09 | lars-ut | sjansen: I'll take an XXL |
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