| 00:33.08 | mheath | *sigh*. Anyone have a server with some spare bandwidth, that would be willing to host a mailing list for a short period of time? |
| 00:34.22 | mheath | I'd possibly reimburse you for your troubles, but I'd appreciate some donations. This would only be for a short while, and would be used by a nonprofit youth organization. |
| 00:36.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Depends on the traffic it'd recieve |
| 00:36.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I can donate my comcast 384kbbs upstream ;) |
| 00:36.57 | ScytheBlade1 | *kbps |
| 00:44.28 | mheath | ScytheBlade1: We're talking about ~20 kids using it for communication until we can get a server setup. |
| 00:55.17 | findlay | what's the key combination for entering <enter> or ^M in a vim command? |
| 00:55.50 | Tene | is it control+p, key ? |
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| 00:57.38 | findlay | Tene: dosen't look like that's it |
| 00:58.08 | findlay | what I want to do is :s/<pattern>^M// |
| 01:17.56 | findlay | that findlay__, always sticking his nose in things |
| 01:22.51 | amcnabb | findlay, I think I've done \r before. Does that work? |
| 01:24.05 | findlay | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23utah/20050722.html.gz |
| 01:24.09 | findlay | towards the middle |
| 01:24.39 | findlay | seems to be ':s/<ctrl>+v <enter>' |
| 01:24.53 | findlay | that enters the blue ^M character |
| 01:25.21 | findlay | '<ctrl>+v <ctrl>+m' seems to work too |
| 01:25.21 | amcnabb | I think that would work, too. Though if you can do \r, that's easier. |
| 01:28.30 | findlay | for some reason though it looks like \n only works in the first argument of s/// and ^M only works in the second argument |
| 01:29.16 | findlay | \r is just more explicit to UNIX EOL than \n right? |
| 01:39.52 | Tene | so... bind... |
| 01:40.02 | Tene | I edit the zone file. |
| 01:40.06 | Tene | I restart named |
| 01:40.12 | Tene | My edits are gone. |
| 01:40.18 | Tene | additions, that is |
| 01:40.22 | findlay | and daemons broke from their cages? |
| 01:41.26 | findlay | probably means there's a real conf file somewhere in /etc that overwrites the traditional one |
| 01:41.39 | findlay | at least I've seen that before |
| 01:45.53 | amcnabb | findlay: \r is carriage return, and \n is linefeed/newline. |
| 01:45.57 | amcnabb | See yall later. |
| 01:56.27 | QBFreak | note to self, grep -r "pattern" . > file.txt will not stop |
| 01:56.34 | QBFreak | at least not while there is disk space... |
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| 02:08.06 | ScytheBlade1 | mheath: as long as you're not sending, you know, attachments, sure |
| 02:08.45 | ScytheBlade1 | And base64 encoded bodies count as attachments :P |
| 02:18.07 | mheath | http://www.geocities.com/joltrush2004/meeting.jpg |
| 02:18.11 | mheath | That still cracks me up |
| 02:18.47 | mheath | I mean, really. How hard is: if (date > currentDate) { schedulemeeting() } ? |
| 02:19.02 | mheath | I have problems with an office suite that tries to setup an apointment for me in 1215. |
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| 02:21.17 | mheath | Hmm. How does one create a template in OpenOffice.Org's Impress? |
| 02:22.49 | elg | don't you just save it as a template? |
| 02:23.15 | mheath | Well, what are the guidelines for creating something thats useable as a template? |
| 02:23.36 | mheath | How do I, for example, create an individual template for each of the Layouts? |
| 02:23.59 | mheath | And how do I specify where the user-inputed title is, versus, say, a text file? |
| 02:26.19 | mheath | ~poke ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:26.21 | ibot | but then who will poke the pokers, mheath? jnbek? |
| 02:26.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:26.32 | mheath | ibot: I'm trying to poke the pokers! |
| 02:26.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I can setup that mailing list now if you still want it |
| 02:26.58 | mheath | what's your host + domain name? |
| 02:27.06 | ScytheBlade1 | define 'host' |
| 02:27.22 | mheath | as in.....www. ftp. myreallycoolandgeekyname |
| 02:27.26 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:27.29 | mheath | as in the 'www' part of www.google.com |
| 02:27.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I own brantleyonline.com |
| 02:27.46 | ScytheBlade1 | and can get access to spengy.net along with mediumurl.com |
| 02:27.57 | ScytheBlade1 | (Yes, that's right, mediumurl.com) |
| 02:27.59 | mheath | Nah, I'll just wait. Forums will work out much better. |
| 02:28.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, k. Just offering |
| 02:28.57 | mheath | ScytheBlade1: It would be literally for a bunch of kids, ages 11 to 18 |
| 02:29.20 | mheath | I'm thinking that a mailing list would be a bit above their technical expertise. |
| 02:29.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I dunno... 'send e-mail to X' whenever you want to talk to someone' |
| 02:30.06 | ScytheBlade1 | s/X'/X/ |
| 02:30.13 | mheath | thats what I'm basically doing right now. |
| 02:30.31 | mheath | However, they all have everyones contact information, and I'm concerned about what they'll do with it |
| 02:30.40 | mheath | *everyones contact information now |
| 02:30.54 | mheath | I'm in a position where I can literally order them to not spam, and I've done so, but still.... |
| 02:30.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, I could do a mailing list, and a forum, but 20 people hitting a forum on my upstream wouldn't be happy |
| 02:31.59 | mheath | Can anyone recommend a good, professional webhosting service with PHP and MySQL? |
| 02:32.13 | mheath | Not overexpensive, with good bandwidth and a decent amount of space. |
| 03:12.37 | xbmodder_ | hey |
| 03:12.43 | xbmodder_ | mheath, price? |
| 03:17.24 | goozbach | WAHOO! |
| 03:18.20 | goozbach | so i finally got to sit next to a cute girl on the plane! |
| 03:22.30 | goozbach | finally a flight that didn't suck. |
| 03:22.53 | goozbach | g/a flight/a coach flight/ |
| 03:25.11 | QBFreak | how do I do a DHCP renew in linux? |
| 03:26.11 | QBFreak | ah there we go, all fixed |
| 03:33.02 | Tene | http://lawandhelp.com/q298-2.htm |
| 03:33.03 | brac | [McFacts abut the McDonalds Coffee Lawsuit] |
| 03:33.31 | mheath | xbmodder_: No, I'm not hosting on your server. |
| 03:33.47 | xbmodder_ | it is not mine.... |
| 03:33.53 | xbmodder_ | goozbach, fun... |
| 03:36.16 | QBFreak | http://www.dreamhost.com/rewards.cgi?qbfreak :) |
| 03:36.50 | QBFreak | I've been fairly please with their service, they've been having some growing pains lately though |
| 03:37.43 | xbmodder_ | QBFreak, at least encode it with something... |
| 03:37.44 | QBFreak | I could sell you space on my account but you'd probably make off better to go with the low end plan :) |
| 03:38.05 | QBFreak | xbmodder: I leave it there as a warning to my bais :) |
| 03:40.09 | xbmodder_ | http://www.sonic.net/sales/hosting/basic-hosting.shtml |
| 03:40.10 | brac | [Basic Hosting (Sonic.net, Inc.)] |
| 03:40.30 | xbmodder_ | he uses their colo facility... I don't think you'd like it... |
| 03:41.25 | xbmodder_ | Value Hosting |
| 03:41.26 | xbmodder_ | $9.95/month |
| 03:44.11 | QBFreak | the thing I like about DH is any promotional deals when you sign up last for the life of the account, I'm currently paying for half of what my plan would have cost before I upgraded it, getting something like 4x the disk and 8x the bandwidth from what I signed up for |
| 03:47.18 | mheath | QBFreak: so their current one.. |
| 03:47.22 | mheath | "Party all night long" |
| 03:47.42 | mheath | 7.95/month with 20GB of storage, 1TB of transfer |
| 03:47.59 | mheath | It will *always* be 7.95/month with 20GB of storage and 1TB of transfer |
| 03:48.16 | QBFreak | yup |
| 03:48.34 | QBFreak | if you click the logo it has comparisons with more info |
| 03:49.07 | QBFreak | now the $7.95/mo is for two years, its $9.95/mo for one |
| 03:49.22 | QBFreak | and if you pay by the month there is an initial setup fee |
| 03:50.40 | QBFreak | I had already bought the Code Monster plan when they doubled the disk from the original sale, and my limits automatically increased as well |
| 03:54.58 | xbmodder_ | hey |
| 04:22.53 | mheath | QBFreak: Kinda a hefty setup fee...$50.... |
| 04:23.10 | QBFreak | if you pay by the month, they waive it if you pay by the year |
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| 13:38.12 | hans | ~rlart |
| 13:45.22 | hans | disney buys pixar. so the question is, will disney suffocate pixar, or will jobs revolutionize disney |
| 13:59.06 | mheath | hoorah |
| 13:59.20 | mheath | Today is the day I fix my new schedule, and make school less stressful and more enjoyable. |
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| 14:02.12 | mheath | I'm tired of this, but I'm on the home stretch. 12.5 years of public education, and I'm almost done. |
| 14:02.56 | hans | I only did six |
| 14:03.21 | mheath | hans: Home schooling? I'm talking about K-12, not college. |
| 14:03.29 | hans | yup |
| 14:03.34 | hans | 7th grade on |
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| 16:06.27 | hans | -lart Jayce^ |
| 16:08.11 | sjansen | ~lart FC4 |
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| 16:10.49 | sjansen | Thank goodness for Google. Fedora shipped an update that broke my CPU scaling, and Google helped me fix it 15 minutes. |
| 16:12.17 | sjansen | Or not. |
| 16:12.25 | sjansen | ~lart FC4 |
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| 16:16.25 | jsmith | Morning wps... |
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| 16:21.20 | wps | good morning |
| 16:22.43 | harleypig | Yo |
| 16:23.14 | wps | yikes… bad milk is ultimate nasty |
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| 16:59.21 | sjansen | ~Uncle_Jesse |
| 16:59.23 | ibot | uncle_jesse is probably a #utah wannabe |
| 16:59.37 | sjansen | ibot, okay, go on |
| 16:59.43 | findlay | ibot: get started on Uncle_Jesse |
| 17:05.44 | Uncle_Jesse | lol |
| 17:05.58 | Uncle_Jesse | ibot, I live in Utah now |
| 17:05.59 | ibot | You live in Utah now? |
| 17:06.07 | Uncle_Jesse | ibot, yes I do |
| 17:06.08 | ibot | You do? |
| 17:06.13 | Uncle_Jesse | ibot, yup |
| 17:06.15 | ibot | well, I feel sorry for you |
| 17:06.28 | Uncle_Jesse | someone installed Eliza on ibot |
| 17:06.44 | maquis | :) |
| 17:09.01 | levi | Morning, #utah. |
| 17:13.22 | hans | sounds more like real intelligence to me. ;-) |
| 17:19.46 | maquis | ibot: are you intelligent? |
| 17:20.47 | hans | ibot, you're an idiot |
| 17:22.39 | maquis | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060123-6028.html <-- this could be ugly! |
| 17:23.27 | sjansen | http://www.totse.com/en/technology/computer_technology/surge.html |
| 17:23.29 | brac | [totse.com | 11 Myths of Surge Protection] |
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| 17:27.35 | Uncle_Jesse | ibot only talks to me |
| 17:29.39 | hans | some of those myths are over my head, let alone the answers |
| 17:37.54 | levi | No kidding. |
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| 17:41.46 | hans | the last one is nice to know though |
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| 17:48.07 | Uncle_Jesse | yes, especially since I bought a cheaper UPS the other day |
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| 17:53.53 | SpecialK | ~lart maquis |
| 18:12.58 | maquis | gah |
| 18:13.04 | maquis | stupid thing keeps dying |
| 18:13.30 | sjansen | ~kill "stupid thing" |
| 18:13.33 | ibot | ACTION shoots a ionized graviton gun at "stupid thing" |
| 18:13.42 | Jayce^ | maquis, stop adopting puppies then |
| 18:17.33 | hans | maquis: suuuure |
| 18:19.47 | maquis | hans: :-P |
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| 18:33.38 | sjansen | Anyone here played with Vim's patchexpr? Or even :diffpatch? |
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| 18:53.26 | sjansen | Man, the patch developers rock. |
| 18:56.05 | Jayce^ | ~praise Larry |
| 18:56.09 | ibot | All hail Larry! |
| 18:56.15 | graphyx | Is Larry a #utaher? |
| 18:56.22 | Jayce^ | no, Larry Wall |
| 18:56.28 | Jayce^ | also the creator of Perl :) |
| 18:57.11 | levi | I think Jayce^ is a bigger fanboy of all things Perl than I am of Lisp. That's scary. ;) |
| 18:57.26 | Jayce^ | :-D |
| 18:57.53 | Uncle_Jesse | no, Larry the Cucumber |
| 18:57.59 | Jayce^ | Pickle |
| 18:58.26 | Uncle_Jesse | he loves his lips I hear |
| 18:58.37 | Jayce^ | and his lost hairbrush |
| 18:59.04 | graphyx | and owns a water buffalo |
| 18:59.14 | Jayce^ | and went on a trip with Cebu |
| 18:59.33 | harleypig | has anyone got KOrganizer to talk to an exchange server successfully, recently? |
| 18:59.58 | Jayce^ | no, but then evolution isn't doing it for me either.. |
| 19:00.03 | Jayce^ | orbit has evolution going |
| 19:00.41 | findlay_work | larry hasn't been to Boston in the fall |
| 19:00.50 | harleypig | yeah, but then I have to isntall the gnome libraries |
| 19:01.08 | Jayce^ | and he sings much better than the poor tomato (in Spanish even) |
| 19:01.24 | Jayce^ | and, man, does he ever love that manatee :) <-- one of the best |
| 19:01.44 | graphyx | Umm... can you tell who in here has kids ? |
| 19:02.06 | Jayce^ | so, who here has seen the new Lord of the Beans one? it's great |
| 19:02.14 | graphyx | Yeah That's pretty good. |
| 19:02.19 | Jayce^ | "you're just and Elvish impersonator.." |
| 19:02.33 | graphyx | I liked the sporks |
| 19:02.36 | graphyx | Cookie man says no!! |
| 19:45.14 | sjansen | Well that's unfortunate. :-( |
| 19:49.00 | findlay_work | sjansen spelled evar wrong |
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| 19:58.38 | QBFreak | (belatedly) "he can't even whistle" |
| 20:03.58 | harleypig | Jayce^: who is orbit? |
| 20:04.23 | Jayce^ | dan hanks |
| 20:04.38 | harleypig | thnx |
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| 20:23.38 | vontrapp | when i watch live tv, it does this "prebuffering pause" thing every second or so, but it goes away when i pause for a second (viewing behind livetv) |
| 20:24.00 | vontrapp | it's like the stream is trying to go ahead of the recording |
| 20:24.29 | RyanE | I used to have that, but it's been years. Upgrading versions helped. |
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| 20:30.27 | vontrapp | does anyone use a hauppauge for mythtv? |
| 20:37.04 | RyanE | yeah |
| 20:37.08 | RyanE | PVR-250 |
| 20:37.35 | vontrapp | mine has an ir reciever with the card, and i'm not sure what i need to get it to work |
| 20:38.05 | RyanE | what distro? |
| 20:38.19 | RyanE | I also have IR receiver, but haven't made it work, other than with the serial receiver I built. |
| 20:38.35 | RyanE | but since I also use a $13 Wal-mart remote as well as the Hauppauge, and both work with serial receiver, that's what I do. |
| 20:38.44 | RyanE | you need to setup LIRC and the i2c LIRC driver. |
| 20:39.20 | vontrapp | i've got lirc installed |
| 20:39.34 | vontrapp | and i coppied the hauppauge remote config file to /etc |
| 20:39.54 | vontrapp | irrecord reports "could not init hardware" |
| 20:40.14 | RyanE | lirc_i2c module loaded? |
| 20:40.18 | RyanE | lircd loaded? |
| 20:40.39 | RyanE | if irrecord is not working, having the config file in /etc doesn't do you anything. |
| 20:40.51 | RyanE | b/c irrecord *creates* a config file by learning the codes. |
| 20:41.06 | vontrapp | i see |
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| 20:47.25 | JoshH | can mythtv automatically record stuff that it thinks you might like, like a tivo does? |
| 20:49.52 | RyanE_away | JoshH: not currently. |
| 20:52.23 | JoshH | that's what i thought... i want to build a mythtv box, but my GF wants an actual tivo instead just for that feature, she says it's a must |
| 20:54.00 | findlay | RyanE_away: you sure? because otherwise mythtv outdoes tivo on just about everything else. Besides, no one is stopping you from adding such functionality. (: |
| 20:57.06 | findlay | is it like a wiki? |
| 20:57.16 | findlay | but with more seeds? |
| 20:58.43 | vontrapp | JoshH: especially if you only have one tuner card, your going to start filling up with more than you can watch with just what you pick |
| 20:59.33 | vontrapp | er, one tuner card...it'll be running almost constantly through prime time, and besides, you'll record more than you can watch |
| 20:59.47 | harleypig | Isn't there a way to permanently turn on the display of marks in vim? |
| 21:01.09 | JoshH | ya, i'm sure i'll be able to talk sense into her. she just saw a 200 dollar tivo at fred meyer and tried to make me buy it. so now i'm trying to tell her why it's better to spend more money for a much more flexible myth box instead |
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| 21:07.51 | vontrapp | and you can browse the web on it |
| 21:08.02 | vontrapp | and play nintendo games |
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| 21:08.19 | sjansen | and throw stuff at it |
| 21:08.33 | sjansen | and program it to make random farting noises |
| 21:08.37 | harleypig | ah ... showmarks.vim |
| 21:09.13 | harleypig | with festival you can make custom announcements based on alarms too |
| 21:13.11 | findlay | I bet festival could even read you the captions on commercials |
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| 21:33.20 | SpecialZ | ~lart maquis |
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| 21:55.29 | hans | ~rlart |
| 21:55.31 | RyanE_away | findlay: I didn't say you couldn't ADD that feature, but I'm not sure where you'd get data that would relate shows other than genre and maybe actors.. |
| 21:56.33 | RyanE | JoshH: I'd sell on the 'skips past all commercials with one button' and 'can set what to record from anywhere in the world' and 'can watch on any Linux PC' as Myth features I'd emphasize. |
| 22:02.01 | spr | JoshH, also 'can watch on any OS X machine' |
| 22:02.28 | JoshH | ya, i've got all those things covered already |
| 22:05.43 | hans | o/~ was there someone you know that won't let you go o/~ |
| 22:10.44 | hans | o/~ There's a lot of things for you to do... there's a lot of things that won't come true. o/~ |
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| 22:51.21 | Uncle_Jesse | o/~robot parade! robot parade! wave the flag that the robot made! o/~ |
| 22:53.10 | levi | o/~ I sit at my table and wage war on myself... o/~ |
| 22:54.03 | graphyx | o/~ My hat it has three corners; three corners has my hat. If it didn't have three corners.. o/~ |
| 22:54.32 | graphyx | Ok so when I move to Arkansas can I still hang with you guys? |
| 22:55.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It would not be my hat! |
| 22:55.24 | Uncle_Jesse | graphyx: only if we can come stay in your trailer home when we visit there ;-) |
| 22:56.15 | graphyx | You can come stay in the guest chalet. |
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| 22:59.22 | Uncle_Jesse | graphyx: you are welcome any time then ;-) |
| 23:00.23 | sjansen | I just recieved the following spam. I think it's quite possible the oddest I've ever recieved: |
| 23:00.32 | sjansen | Call out Gouranga be happy... |
| 23:00.32 | sjansen | Gouranga Gouranga Gouranga |
| 23:00.33 | sjansen | That which brings the highest happiness! |
| 23:01.37 | sjansen | burn her! |
| 23:03.16 | goozbach | http://www.inhabitat.com/entry_23.php |
| 23:04.40 | sjansen | geez, I should go into the shelving business |
| 23:05.33 | maquis | ooh! |
| 23:06.23 | maquis | 350$/block? |
| 23:07.33 | levi | maquis: Hey, when you're a rich Amazonian, you'll be able to afford it! ;) |
| 23:28.44 | QBFreak | its an issue because that port drives a robotic arm to load CDs |
| 23:28.54 | QBFreak | I can't have it sending random commands |
| 23:29.07 | levi | Perhaps it likes the letter C? |
| 23:29.22 | RyanE | C is for Cookie, good enough for me. |
| 23:30.06 | vontrapp | maybe it was trying to load that cd |
| 23:34.54 | QBFreak | well, at the moment its laying on its side, C calibrates it |
| 23:35.17 | QBFreak | if it had tried to unload it would have made a mess of the other junk on the desk |
| 23:35.59 | QBFreak | I need to finish wiring the breakout box cable so I can button it back up |
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| 23:38.51 | maquis | http://www.inhabitat.com/entry_1049.php#body <-- cool! |
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| 23:40.53 | lars-ut | slashdot updated their code |
| 23:41.02 | lars-ut | looks a bit different now |
| 23:41.52 | lars-ut | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/19/175253 |
| 23:53.30 | dilvie | hey, what's up? |
| 23:55.36 | sjansen | flourescent lighting |
| 23:57.25 | Uncle_Jesse | what's the best way to subscribe to ical in evolution? |
