| 00:01.17 | Uncle_Jesse | thx guys - your input has been helpful |
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| 01:09.37 | maquis | ?? |
| 01:09.56 | hans | at least I have yodeling music to listen to |
| 01:10.20 | hans | maquis: nothing much, just trying to grok sip |
| 01:10.31 | maquis | hans: ah |
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| 02:06.12 | hans | man, why doesn't tomsrtbt have grub? |
| 02:06.34 | hans | anybody else know a (small) generic grub rescue floppy/cd? |
| 02:11.43 | usynic | hans: does tomsrtbt have chroot? |
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| 02:13.21 | hans | yeah, but my dad isn't sophisticated enough to do the chroot dance without help or precise instructions |
| 02:13.30 | hans | but I don't know enough information to give precise instructions |
| 02:14.19 | usynic | ah. |
| 02:15.55 | hans | i guess there's always the telephone. :-P |
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| 03:03.50 | QBFreak | well this is nice...the keyboard controller on my server seems to have failed |
| 03:04.00 | QBFreak | long ago, I just never noticed because I always used SSH |
| 03:04.33 | QBFreak | I wanted to do a reinstall, but I suspect that is out of the question without a keyboard :) |
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| 03:18.11 | tensai | QBFreak: got a usb keyboard around? |
| 03:18.32 | QBFreak | nope, and I'm not sure that it even supports usb keyboard |
| 03:18.38 | QBFreak | its not exactly new :) |
| 03:19.15 | QBFreak | I need to find a new board that will run at 500Mhz and I'll be set :) |
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| 04:15.40 | hans | mmm, the sourdough looks good it does |
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| 04:22.21 | resplin | Can anyone here spare me a gmail invite? |
| 04:26.36 | levi | resplin: Sure. |
| 04:26.47 | levi | I wasn't aware that they were still hard to come by. |
| 04:26.54 | levi | I have a zillion of them. |
| 04:27.25 | resplin | It isn't that they are hard to come by, it is that you need to receive an invite or an SMS message. I don't have a cell phone. |
| 04:27.54 | resplin | Um, how to I send a PM with IRC? |
| 04:28.07 | levi | Just like you did. |
| 04:28.36 | maquis | resplin: /msg <name> message |
| 04:28.47 | resplin | Thanks maquis. |
| 04:29.05 | resplin | Gaim swallows the message with no user feedback. I got confused. |
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| 04:29.20 | resplin | Thanks for the favor levi. |
| 04:29.39 | levi | No problem. |
| 04:41.26 | maquis | http://tuxgirl.com/out.jpg |
| 04:41.29 | maquis | what the?????? |
| 04:42.17 | Newsome | cool! |
| 04:42.25 | Newsome | try typing "reset" |
| 04:42.29 | emcnabb | looks like some terminal settings may be messed up |
| 04:42.29 | maquis | Newsome: mmk |
| 04:42.40 | emcnabb | Newsome's solution should work :-) |
| 04:42.43 | maquis | Newsome: that worked |
| 04:42.44 | maquis | thanks |
| 04:42.48 | Newsome | np |
| 04:42.52 | levi | reset is your friend. :) |
| 04:42.55 | maquis | how do they get messed up like that? |
| 04:42.57 | levi | I've been using it a lot lately. |
| 04:43.40 | levi | maquis: Either some program changed the terminal settings and didn't change them back, or some control codes crept into your terminal and screwed it up. |
| 04:44.03 | levi | s/terminal/pseudo-tty/ |
| 04:44.19 | levi | s/terminal/pseudo-tty/a |
| 04:44.21 | maquis | mmk |
| 04:44.31 | levi | Er, yeah. You know what I mean. |
| 04:45.01 | maquis | speaking of which, i got a funny error from firefox the other day... |
| 04:46.07 | maquis | it was telling me that firefox was already running, but i hadn't used firefox yet... |
| 04:46.10 | maquis | twas weird |
| 04:46.42 | levi | I've had it do that to me in Windows before. |
| 04:55.01 | QBFreak_ | I've had windows start firefox and then tell me it couldn't start it |
| 04:55.18 | QBFreak_ | usually means my default browser preferences are screwed up |
| 04:55.37 | maquis | nice |
| 04:56.09 | QBFreak_ | if I reset them it all clears up, only occurs when trying to open FF via a link |
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| 06:03.56 | mheath | Wow |
| 06:03.58 | mheath | 5 months from tomorrow |
| 06:04.06 | mheath | This is starting to creep up on me fast =\ |
| 06:04.18 | QBFreak_ | whats that? |
| 06:05.11 | mheath | QBFreak_: The day I become SN Heath, USN. |
| 06:05.50 | levi | mheath: You're just joining the Navy. You'll get out again. I'm going to be a father in less than 4 months. |
| 06:06.45 | QBFreak_ | mheath: I've got a lot of respect for someone who can do that |
| 06:06.55 | mheath | levi: My entire life is going to change, and I'll be in for at least 6 years. (Not to try to upstage the significant changes coming to your life) |
| 06:07.10 | QBFreak_ | levi: congratulations :) |
| 06:07.13 | maquis | levi: sweet! |
| 06:07.36 | mheath | Yeah, congratulations. Any speculations on the gender? |
| 06:07.54 | levi | mheath: Yeah, it really is a big change for you, and I understand the feeling of creeping-up. :) |
| 06:08.22 | mheath | Basic should be a breeze at this point |
| 06:08.24 | levi | Unless there was a mis-reading of the ultrasound pictures, it's a girl. |
| 06:08.39 | mheath | I've literally covered about 75% of what they cover in the classroom portions at this point |
| 06:08.47 | maquis | levi: daddy's little girl! :) |
| 06:08.56 | mheath | Plus I'm familiar with drill and ceremony (and rather good at it, if I may say so) |
| 06:08.58 | Hhhhh | congratz |
| 06:09.42 | mheath | I don't like the idea that I'm likely to be made RCPO of my division, though =\ |
| 06:09.51 | mheath | Had a bad experience with that at USNSCC boot camp |
| 06:10.27 | mheath | Heh, have any of you (not) read Ender's Game? |
| 06:10.51 | mheath | I've been through, in life, some of what that book goes into |
| 06:11.02 | mheath | Imagine stepping off a bus with a bunch of other guys in uniform |
| 06:11.12 | mheath | You fit in, you feel comfortable, you're making friends |
| 06:11.17 | mheath | You fall into formation together, etc. |
| 06:11.31 | mheath | Then your DivO decides that *you'd* make a good lead recruit |
| 06:11.57 | mheath | Suddenly your seperated from the group. In an entirely different world. Trying desperately to 1) gain their respect, and 2) not screw up. |
| 06:13.25 | QBFreak_ | you'll make it :) |
| 06:14.03 | mheath | I have once; just not looking forward to the (statistically very likely) possibility I'll have to go through that again at USN basic training |
| 06:14.37 | mheath | basic training is a very different experience for people put into a position like that, I can tell you. |
| 06:17.26 | Hhhhh | I think I need Common Lisp training...I'm having problems trying to go to sleep |
| 06:18.06 | Newsome | well, as long as it isn't basic training. |
| 06:18.27 | levi | I've actually been doing more Scheme programming lately, since I found an opportunity to use it at work. |
| 06:19.11 | levi | maquis: Actually, it's been a combination of Scheme and C. Trying to get the two to interface is... interesting. |
| 06:20.05 | Hhhhh | argh, scheme |
| 06:20.29 | Hhhhh | you "found" an opportunity to use it at work? |
| 06:20.46 | Hhhhh | people are running out of excuses to torture themselves |
| 06:20.46 | levi | Hhhhh: It's fun! |
| 06:20.56 | levi | Using C++ would be torture. |
| 06:20.57 | Hhhhh | masoquism++ |
| 06:21.00 | Hhhhh | heh |
| 06:21.10 | Hhhhh | I use C++ when the occasion amerits it |
| 06:22.20 | levi | I also find perl torturous. And tortuous, which is something entirely different! |
| 06:26.45 | mheath | "Atten-hut! Fall....IN! Dress-Right....Dress! Forward to an immediate column right....march! Forward at a double time......march! Ready, halt! Column files from my right.....march!" |
| 06:26.46 | mheath | etc |
| 06:26.54 | mheath | People wonder why I come back from trainings with no voice :) |
| 06:27.49 | mheath | *hopes |
| 06:28.03 | Newsome | attention(); fall(in); dress(right); dress(forward) ; dress(GET DRESSED ALREADY); |
| 06:28.21 | maquis | Newsome: nice! |
| 06:28.41 | mheath | Dressing == Getting your spacing in formation |
| 06:29.01 | Newsome | it's not that us civillians think military people are unimaginative morons, but... |
| 06:29.04 | mheath | "Dress Right" means, space yourselves out, at a single-arm interval, based on the person to your right |
| 06:29.40 | Newsome | more like..."I'd feel like an unimaginative moron having to take orders like that" |
| 06:30.01 | mheath | Newsome: You try to move a large group of people in a quick, organized manner. See how far you get. |
| 06:30.08 | mheath | And get them to all pay attention to what you're saying |
| 06:30.30 | mheath | And get them to all stay together, so no one gets lost. |
| 06:32.38 | Newsome | doesn't sound like fun |
| 06:32.59 | mheath | Thats what formations are for |
| 06:33.18 | mheath | They allow you to quickly and efficiently make sure everyones present, get everyone to pay attention, and move them. |
| 06:34.14 | mheath | accountability is critical, and the easiest way to do it is a formation. |
| 06:34.40 | mheath | I've been in a situation where we've been trying to determine who was missing and who wasn't |
| 06:34.57 | mheath | Trying to determine who may be literally lost in some unknown location in the forest |
| 06:36.31 | mheath | Formations are helpful. Critical. |
| 06:36.45 | mheath | A squad leader can just look down the line and see whos missing |
| 06:37.03 | mheath | *bed |
| 06:38.06 | QBFreak_ | later mheath |
| 06:38.48 | findlay | Daryl McBride |
| 06:38.50 | findlay | ? |
| 06:39.02 | findlay | Newsome's worst nightmare? |
| 06:39.17 | Newsome | nah |
| 06:39.22 | findlay | (: |
| 06:39.24 | maquis | findlay: you got that backwards |
| 06:39.24 | Newsome | maybe the other way around |
| 06:39.28 | maquis | :) |
| 06:44.37 | QBFreak | it thought I was QBFreak, and now QBFreak is listed as being on this channel twice |
| 06:52.16 | maquis | QBFreak: around 10:45, you had some network issues, it looks like |
| 06:57.21 | QBFreak | yeah, twice I've lost connection |
| 06:57.35 | QBFreak | however not once did my client notice I was QBFreak_ when I came back |
| 06:58.19 | QBFreak | and so when I did a nick change to drop the _, it changed QBFreak_ to QBFreak, but it didn't know that was me so I now have two QBFreak s listed |
| 06:58.37 | QBFreak | and I can't for the life of my find my GPA... |
| 06:59.09 | findlay | 4.0? |
| 06:59.32 | QBFreak | no, but still good enough to graduate with honors |
| 07:01.04 | QBFreak | I might have pulled it off, but then I wouldn't have learned as much |
| 07:01.20 | maquis | QBFreak: byu? if so, then it's > 3.5 iirc |
| 07:01.56 | QBFreak | yeah, but they want a number for this job application |
| 07:02.06 | QBFreak | which in all my brilliance I submitted leaving that blank |
| 07:03.38 | QBFreak | bah, the website has been rearranged since I graduated |
| 07:04.38 | QBFreak | oo they're doing the live blues next week |
| 07:05.03 | QBFreak | sadly only at the central campus, thats like 45 minutes away |
| 07:06.27 | QBFreak | I've got GPA per term, I want graduating GPA... |
| 07:09.12 | maquis | QBFreak: do you have the number of credits you took in each term? |
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| 07:10.15 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 07:11.27 | QBFreak | actually I don't exactly want graduating GPA, I want GPA for all the courses I took at that school (I transfered, have GPA from other school) |
| 07:14.26 | QBFreak | the number of credit hours per semester is the same each semester, can I just average GPAs? |
| 07:14.43 | maquis | should work that way |
| 07:14.50 | maquis | ~lart TimRiker |
| 07:15.01 | QBFreak | ./TimRiker |
| 07:15.12 | maquis | rm -rf TimRiker |
| 07:15.25 | QBFreak | 3.625 |
| 07:15.32 | maquis | not bad! |
| 07:15.54 | QBFreak | its those darned core classes that kept dragging me down :) |
| 07:16.42 | QBFreak | its funny, you can look at the letter grade and get a good idea what type of class it was... |
| 07:16.43 | maquis | wish that was my problem |
| 07:17.31 | maquis | classes like history and english came easily to me... i just don't find them all that interesting |
| 07:17.39 | QBFreak | that was my problem :) |
| 07:17.51 | maquis | i can do pretty well in them |
| 07:18.02 | maquis | cs classes regularly beat me into a pulp |
| 07:18.02 | QBFreak | maybe not as easy for me, but mostly because I didn't really get into it |
| 07:18.08 | QBFreak | :( |
| 07:19.57 | QBFreak | if I'm interested in something I can usually pick it up pretty fast, computers and electronics are about the only thing that interest me though |
| 07:20.16 | QBFreak | I fought for my B in algebra... |
| 07:20.47 | QBFreak | ended up taking it online, I was failing in the classroom |
| 07:23.49 | QBFreak | meh, I can't even make sense of this transcript from the other school |
| 07:24.04 | findlay | even if he was just a song plugger from the west side |
| 07:24.16 | maquis | huh? |
| 07:24.27 | findlay | ? |
| 07:24.38 | maquis | oh |
| 07:24.42 | maquis | missed your first comment |
| 07:24.43 | findlay | k |
| 07:24.50 | maquis | seeing that makes everything make more sense |
| 07:25.26 | findlay | and Berlioz while we're at it |
| 07:26.02 | findlay | and Oscar Wilde |
| 07:26.10 | findlay | and Dickens |
| 07:26.54 | findlay | and Charlotte Bronte and sisters |
| 07:27.44 | QBFreak | I'm not even supposed to have this transcript, heh |
| 07:28.06 | findlay | is it an official one? |
| 07:28.47 | QBFreak | don't know, its a print out from there admin system, it was sealed in an envelope by my advisor because the other school lost the copy that had been sent to them, I was instructed to not open it |
| 07:29.02 | QBFreak | but to give it to the school if they couldn't get it straightened out |
| 07:29.26 | TimRiker | http://rikers.org/hp2100/hpDoubleChaser.avi <- latest in old hardware amusements. |
| 07:29.32 | QBFreak | I just opened it tonight, sealed 7/23/2002 |
| 07:29.55 | QBFreak | -e |
| 07:30.21 | QBFreak | nice |
| 07:30.59 | QBFreak | (software) |
| 07:31.38 | maquis | does anybody here have an attention span for sale? |
| 07:31.42 | maquis | or rent? |
| 07:31.53 | QBFreak | no way, I need every last bit of mine I can get, its too short :) |
| 07:32.12 | maquis | mine ran away |
| 07:32.13 | QBFreak | I have been trying to do a simple install of something for two days now... |
| 07:43.16 | QBFreak | its sad, I got some nifty new technic parts but I havn't had time to get my mindstorms back out |
| 07:43.28 | QBFreak | ls |
| 07:43.34 | QBFreak | miswindow |
| 07:46.14 | maquis | mmmmm... mindstorms |
| 07:46.42 | QBFreak | much fun stuff |
| 07:51.25 | QBFreak | hmm, this is nice, the build script to make a release from this subversion work area requires commit access....I just want to build a local release *sigh* |
| 07:57.15 | TimRiker | QBFreak: make a local subversion repository, you can have write access there. ;-) |
| 07:57.32 | TimRiker | or just hack the release code so it does not need it. |
| 07:57.56 | QBFreak | I looked at it, but I'm no perl wiz and it was all complicated looking :) |
| 07:58.16 | QBFreak | I've got a local copy checked out of subversion, I was trying to build that |
| 07:58.34 | QBFreak | its a hosted site, so I can't just install subversion and use that server or something |
| 07:59.27 | maquis | QBFreak: cpi;dm |
| 07:59.29 | maquis | ter |
| 08:00.14 | QBFreak | you lost me... |
| 08:00.15 | maquis | couldn't you just set something up to check out of their repository whenever you need it (daily, or whatever), stick it into your own repository, and then use the build-script? |
| 08:00.28 | QBFreak | afaik thats exactly what I'm doing |
| 08:00.31 | maquis | stupid off-by-one typing errors |
| 08:00.39 | QBFreak | yeah, thats what I figured happened :) |
| 08:00.47 | maquis | :) |
| 08:01.00 | QBFreak | I'm running the build script in my checked-out copy, but it wants to check some of it back in first |
| 08:01.22 | maquis | huh? |
| 08:01.26 | maquis | why? |
| 08:01.30 | QBFreak | I doubt anyone but the developers with commit access have actually tried to use the build script |
| 08:01.55 | maquis | stupid |
| 08:01.55 | QBFreak | its all perl so you can actually run an install right out of the check out dir |
| 08:01.59 | maquis | comment out that section? |
| 08:02.11 | QBFreak | I glanced at it, I was having trouble making sense of it all |
| 08:02.46 | maquis | grep it for their server...? |
| 08:04.33 | QBFreak | limit yourself to just a nap between now and then? |
| 08:05.25 | QBFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:05.25 | QBFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:05.35 | QBFreak | thats nice to know... |
| 08:07.49 | QBFreak | aahhh, I wish this was clear in the docs...if you name the release it checks it in, if you don't it wont |
| 08:07.55 | QBFreak | sheesh |
| 08:17.13 | findlay | TimRiker: where do you get all that old hardware? |
| 09:06.40 | TimRiker | findley left... but at the Univ of TX in Dallas. Some students got it in salvage and gave it to me. |
| 09:18.08 | maquis | stupid scary movies |
| 09:19.42 | maquis | wow... |
| 09:19.51 | QBFreak | howso? |
| 09:20.16 | maquis | erm... looks like a coule inches of snow, and more falling at a rather speedy rate |
| 09:20.24 | maquis | last time i looked outside it was completely dry |
| 09:20.28 | QBFreak | wow |
| 09:20.34 | QBFreak | sadly that is not the case here :) |
| 09:20.59 | QBFreak | winter has been having a hard time showing itself around here lately |
| 09:21.10 | maquis | tis going to be a cold walk up the stairs tomorrow morning |
| 09:21.23 | QBFreak | later maquis |
| 09:21.37 | maquis | gnight |
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| 14:15.38 | graphyx | yeah, there are a number of inches of snow out there. |
| 14:15.44 | graphyx | Almost didn't make it up the driveway here at work. |
| 14:15.59 | graphyx | fortunately they had a truck plowing it and I just had to wait for them to ploy the enterance. |
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| 14:52.54 | graphyx | I'm the only one at work. The snow has stopped everyone else from getting to work and being in the #utah channel!!!! |
| 14:56.39 | hatchmt | It would've stopped me, but I live two miles from work. <shrug> |
| 15:20.22 | graphyx | yeah, me too. 2.1 |
| 15:20.24 | graphyx | 2.1 miles. |
| 15:27.06 | maquis | unfortunately |
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| 15:36.53 | maquis | makes me cold just to think of that |
| 15:38.23 | graphyx | It's not that cold out, unless the wind has picked up. |
| 15:38.30 | graphyx | It's just deep. |
| 15:38.43 | maquis | deep and still coming down |
| 15:39.13 | graphyx | did you get more than 6" there at BYU? |
| 15:39.58 | maquis | not sure... i haven't made it outside yet |
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| 16:02.01 | lukfugl | it's about time we got some more |
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| 16:29.53 | maquis | graphyx: not sure exactly how much, but might be about 6in... |
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| 16:30.53 | hans | -lart Jayce^ |
| 16:31.30 | hans | oh boy, a pgsql vs. mysql thread |
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| 16:45.36 | lukfugl | sjansen: does it even *have* monads (ala haskell)? |
| 16:45.38 | sjansen | I can only guess that not enough native English speakers were involved in the process. |
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| 16:50.41 | maquis | "if what you do by hand is different from what your program gets, someone's wrong: either you or your code... and since you wrote your code, it's you either time" |
| 16:50.53 | lukfugl | heh |
| 16:50.59 | Hhhhh | hehe |
| 16:51.00 | maquis | :) |
| 16:51.09 | maquis | gotta love profs |
| 16:51.30 | Hhhhh | and sjansen, what's the prob with non native English speakers? |
| 16:52.14 | Hhhhh | I still scored in the 64% in the verbal part and 86% in the qualitative part of the GRE, and 6 yrs ago I didn't speak a lick of english :p |
| 16:52.17 | maquis | Hhhhh: my guess is he's referring to non-native english speakers who can't actually speak english |
| 16:52.33 | Hhhhh | then he should have said that |
| 16:53.12 | lukfugl | my guess is that it goes deeper, referring to potential puns that a non-native English speaker (that hasn't gained proficiency) might not be aware of |
| 16:53.26 | Hhhhh | hehe, AYB? |
| 16:53.34 | Hhhhh | yea, that was funny |
| 16:54.20 | lukfugl | My guess is that the similarity between "monad" and another *onad word is what sjansen is thinking of :) |
| 16:55.12 | sjansen | No, I'm referring to non-native English speakers who haven't been been exposed to the academic language more than the culture language and as a result don't realize that certain words are more dangerous in a broader public setting. |
| 16:55.26 | sjansen | s/haven't/have/ |
| 16:55.56 | sjansen | (What lukfugl said in fewer words.) |
| 16:57.32 | sjansen | Although the same can happen to native English speakers who are too deeply immersed in academia. Witness the black Harvard professor who got into hot water for using the word "niggardly". |
| 16:57.49 | Hhhhh | hah |
| 16:57.57 | Hhhhh | well, at least he wasn't white |
| 16:59.53 | levi | I imagine the Microsoft Monad shell was named by a marketing guy who meant it in the philisophical rather than the mathematical sense. |
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| 17:08.19 | hans | sjansen: you need this |
| 17:08.19 | hans | http://redhanded.hobix.com/bits/campingAMicroframework.html |
| 17:08.28 | graphyx | levi: what does monad mean in either of those cases? |
| 17:08.30 | graphyx | ~define monad |
| 17:08.34 | graphyx | ~dict monad |
| 17:08.35 | hans | the blog article. I still don't really know what camping is, exactly. |
| 17:08.39 | hans | but you'll like the xml situps |
| 17:09.00 | sjansen | graphyx: Ask Sr. Wikipedia |
| 17:10.45 | levi | In the philosophy of Leibniz, a monad is an indivisible and hence ultimately simple entity, like an atom or person. |
| 17:11.18 | levi | (from the Oxford American Dictionary) |
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| 17:15.13 | harleypig | ok ... I'm installing ubuntu on my workstation ... but I need to keep the winxp installation (at least for the time being). |
| 17:15.26 | levi | hans: _why is werid. |
| 17:15.30 | harleypig | believe it or not, but I've never setup a dual boot situation |
| 17:15.31 | levi | s/werid/weird/ |
| 17:15.43 | hans | isn't it great |
| 17:15.45 | lukfugl | levi: that's why we love _why :) |
| 17:16.33 | sjansen | I love the XML situps graphic. |
| 17:16.35 | levi | I've heard he lives in Utah. |
| 17:16.55 | maquis | sjansen: xml situps? :) |
| 17:17.13 | sjansen | maquis: RTFLink |
| 17:17.54 | maquis | link? |
| 17:18.04 | hans | why does? |
| 17:19.45 | lukfugl | levi: I've heard that too, but only as an unsubstantiated rumor |
| 17:20.34 | hans | there's nice speculation here in the comments http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/rubylessRuby.html |
| 17:20.44 | hans | "I believe the current consensus is that _why is a Ruby hacker from the future, sent back in time by an aging Matz to perform an obscure and terrible mission in the world of today." |
| 17:23.05 | sjansen | Didn't you hear? He's Mormon, just like Diana Ross, Steve Martin, and the Pope. |
| 17:23.19 | hans | and matz |
| 17:24.13 | lukfugl|w0rk | sjansen: not a practicing mormon, with what he must be smoking :) |
| 17:24.14 | graphyx | Time traveling mormons. |
| 17:26.20 | hans | the rumor probably comes from the whois for whytheluckystiff.net |
| 17:26.55 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.56 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.56 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.56 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.27 | hans | anyone wanna swing by that address and see what's there? |
| 17:28.09 | sjansen | http://www.inetz.com/home.html |
| 17:28.10 | brac | [Inetz Media Group] |
| 17:28.46 | hans | so you see he needn't live her |
| 17:28.47 | hans | e |
| 17:29.23 | hans | or there or whatever |
| 17:36.25 | ^Migs^ | too far away |
| 17:37.25 | ^Migs^ | are you still asleep? |
| 17:37.26 | goozbach | just about side-swiped a semi |
| 17:37.33 | levi | hans: He needn't live here, but I can imagine that he might work at a place like inetz.com |
| 17:37.55 | QBFreak | goozbach: you always have all the excitement in life |
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| 17:38.15 | ^Migs^ | my ninja army will decimate your robot army |
| 17:38.45 | QBFreak | that makes them all do the hamster dance (with music!) |
| 17:39.39 | goozbach | that'd be something to see |
| 17:43.32 | levi | hobix.com makes my eyes bleed. |
| 17:46.17 | tensai | levi: and based on your reaction to vorlath, I expect you'll continue to visit it. face it, you enjoy things that are bad for you. |
| 17:46.38 | goozbach | OUCH! |
| 17:47.35 | levi | tensai: No, I probably won't return to it. I go back to Vorlath because it's fun to watch him bump into the flaws in his reasoning and steadfastly refuse to recognize them. |
| 17:47.55 | levi | I just don't waste time writing anything to him anymore. |
| 17:48.10 | tensai | levi: hmm. that sounds like somebody else we know... |
| 17:48.17 | synic | can someone recommend a hardware based load balancer? |
| 17:48.27 | levi | tensai: Indeed. |
| 17:48.33 | tensai | synic: foundry serveriron. they rock. and they're expensive. |
| 17:48.44 | levi | tensai: I try not to dissuade him anymore, either. |
| 17:49.08 | levi | tensai: It's much more rewarding to sit back and enjoy the show, now that I know that interaction is futile. |
| 17:49.08 | synic | tensai: how do you go about getting redundancy in the load balancer itself? |
| 17:50.22 | tensai | synic: meaning you want a second load balancer in case the first one fails? |
| 17:50.53 | synic | tensai: yeah... we really only want load balancing for redundancy |
| 17:51.27 | sjansen | tensai, levi: You're making fun of me again, aren't you? |
| 17:52.08 | mrpull- | is procmail+exim on debian as simple as it appears? |
| 17:52.18 | jsmith | synic: Go look at the F5s as well ... or a used Alteon... |
| 17:52.20 | mrpull- | i haven't used procmail for 2-3 years and that was on RH+Sendmail |
| 17:52.35 | jsmith | synic: How much traffic? |
| 17:52.36 | tensai | mrpull: yes. create a .procmailrc and it'll Just Work(tm) |
| 17:53.28 | levi | sjansen: Well, we didn't mention anyone specifically, but if you think the shoe fits... ;) |
| 17:53.29 | mrpull- | tensai: and a /etc/procmailrc for global rules? |
| 17:54.07 | synic | jsmith: currently about 400,000 hits a day, 150GB a month |
| 17:54.09 | mrpull- | the package isn't even installed right now. If i add it will it make the exim config changes? (I could read the docs, but i'm being lazy) |
| 17:54.18 | sjansen | levi: You'll get yours, just wait! |
| 17:54.47 | graphyx | synic: Would a webserver cluster not do what you are looking for? |
| 17:54.47 | tensai | mrpull: the debian exim config has the procmail config by default |
| 17:54.58 | mrpull- | cool. thanks. that is what I was looking for. |
| 17:55.09 | synic | graphyx: maybe. could you go into this further? |
| 17:55.10 | mrpull- | now i'll have to brush up on the syntax :-/ |
| 17:55.19 | synic | graphyx: we're just looking into solutions |
| 17:55.43 | mrpull- | synic: if your budget is ~$0, look at ultramonkey.org |
| 17:55.58 | mrpull- | if you have ~$50K, look at F5 BigIP's |
| 17:56.27 | synic | mrpull: I've been to ultramonkey.org, but I must be missing something. |
| 17:56.42 | synic | we have 4 servers... and just want redundancy |
| 17:56.43 | mrpull- | synic: cisco's CSS's are about $12K for a redundant pair and work nicely for fairly static configs |
| 17:57.05 | synic | currently traffic isn't high enough to need load balancing for... well, load balancing |
| 17:57.34 | tensai | I've only ever used the foundry, but they're rock solid. a 24 port serveriron xl goes for ~3,000. |
| 17:57.45 | mrpull- | synic: I assume you don't need SSL acceleration |
| 17:57.53 | synic | mrpull: no |
| 17:57.53 | tensai | I don't know about clustering them, though |
| 17:58.00 | mrpull- | tensai: $3K? |
| 17:58.24 | tensai | http://cgi.ebay.com/FOUNDRY-ServerIronXL-ServerIron-XL-FCSLB24-RPS-2AC-Gig_W0QQitemZ5852473209QQcategoryZ71522QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 17:58.36 | tensai | ah, used I mean of course. |
| 17:58.50 | tensai | that's about what we buy ours for |
| 17:59.17 | mrpull- | tensai: ahh, used is the magic word |
| 18:00.15 | graphyx | A server cluster is basically a group of web servers that act as one. |
| 18:00.23 | graphyx | And if you need more power you just add to the cluster. |
| 18:00.43 | graphyx | for redundancy issues if one goes down, the rest just take up the load. |
| 18:00.50 | mrpull- | graphyx: you mean "one type of server cluster is".... |
| 18:00.56 | synic | graphyx: have a URL handy? |
| 18:01.38 | graphyx | synic: no. |
| 18:01.48 | graphyx | mrpull- yeah, that. |
| 18:01.56 | synic | k |
| 18:02.05 | tensai | you can cheat and get similar results with dns round robin, but a hardware solution is much more elegant |
| 18:02.17 | tensai | you could also use heartbeat to have an active/standby system |
| 18:03.57 | mrpull- | synic: heartbeat is part of the ultramonkey package |
| 18:04.02 | synic | ah. |
| 18:04.45 | mrpull- | synic: if you can tolerate not having 24x7 support, buying a pair of used BigIP from ebay may be the best option (~$5K) |
| 18:05.07 | graphyx | would that be not having 24x7 support or not having support at all? |
| 18:05.36 | mrpull- | graphyx: depends on circumstances, but most used F5 gear isn't supported at all |
| 18:05.48 | graphyx | synic: Check out this url: http://www.tldp.org/linuxfocus/English/November2000/article179.meta.shtml |
| 18:05.55 | synic | ok |
| 18:06.01 | mrpull- | also be careful to make sure you don't buy products that have been EOL'ed by F5 |
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| 18:13.44 | graphyx | does ibot have a way of telling you the last thing someone has said and when? |
| 18:14.47 | emcnabb | ~said sjansen |
| 18:15.03 | emcnabb | nope, that wasn't it |
| 18:15.11 | Tene | ~seen sjansen |
| 18:15.16 | ibot | sjansen is currently on #utah (2h 43m 21s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 20m 58s, last said: 'levi: You'll get yours, just wait!'. |
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| 18:15.19 | mrpull- | seen is it |
| 18:15.28 | emcnabb | cool |
| 18:15.44 | Hhhhh | ~seen Hhhhh |
| 18:15.46 | ibot | hhhhh is currently on #utah (22h 11m 29s) #oe (22h 11m 29s) #zaurus (22h 11m 29s). Has said a total of 69 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen Hhhhh'. |
| 18:15.54 | graphyx | ~seen bzob |
| 18:15.55 | ibot | bzob is currently on #utah (3m 12s), last said: 'nope!'. |
| 18:16.03 | Tene | ~seen Tene |
| 18:16.05 | ibot | tene is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 79 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen Tene'. |
| 18:16.14 | Tene | ~seen ibot |
| 18:16.15 | ibot | ibot is currently on #gpe (5d 12h 18m 56s) #bzflag (5d 12h 18m 56s) #familiar (5d 12h 18m 56s) #kierra (5d 12h 18m 56s) #brlcad (5d 12h 18m 56s) #utah (5d 12h 18m 56s) #oe (5d 12h 18m 56s) #zaurus (5d 12h 18m 56s) #gllug (5d 12h 18m 56s) #openzaurus (5d 12h 18m 56s) #silvercat (5d ... |
| 18:16.16 | graphyx | It doesn't say when your last thing was said. |
| 18:16.21 | Hhhhh | haha |
| 18:16.42 | Hhhhh | ~seen ibot |
| 18:16.43 | ibot | ibot is currently on #gpe (5d 12h 19m 24s) #bzflag (5d 12h 19m 24s) #familiar (5d 12h 19m 24s) #kierra (5d 12h 19m 24s) #brlcad (5d 12h 19m 24s) #utah (5d 12h 19m 24s) #oe (5d 12h 19m 24s) #zaurus (5d 12h 19m 24s) #gllug (5d 12h 19m 24s) #openzaurus (5d 12h 19m 24s) #silvercat (5d ... |
| 18:16.46 | graphyx | where is the feature enhancement request form? |
| 18:17.17 | bzob | i guess i can't type on ~3hrs of sleep. silly server moves. |
| 18:17.24 | jsmith | bzob: Again? |
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| 18:25.25 | tensai | ~lart hans |
| 18:26.29 | goozbach | ~rlart |
| 18:33.59 | hans | what does it take to get vnc to work on XP's login screen? |
| 18:34.18 | jsmith | hans: What, can't use RDP? |
| 18:34.41 | hans | oh I suppose so |
| 18:34.46 | hans | is there an rdp viewer for osx? |
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| 18:35.08 | Jayce^ | yes |
| 18:35.17 | Jayce^ | rdesktop, or Microsoft has their official one |
| 18:35.41 | Jayce^ | it's a free download on their site |
| 18:36.33 | hans | rdesktop use X11? |
| 18:36.38 | Jayce^ | yes |
| 18:37.06 | hans | which is nicer to use/ |
| 18:37.18 | Jayce^ | the microsoft one, actually |
| 18:37.39 | Jayce^ | since it has 'corrections' for bugs in their terminal server licensing system |
| 18:37.56 | Jayce^ | rdesktop stops working at times, on linux too, because of issues it has |
| 18:38.15 | hans | well primary usage will be on linux |
| 18:38.21 | hans | but since I have one monitor... |
| 18:38.21 | Jayce^ | the microsoft one is actually nicer than their windows client.. |
| 18:38.41 | Jayce^ | I have both, pretty much just use the microsoft one |
| 18:39.03 | Jayce^ | the *sucky* part about it, is if you want multiple connections at once, you have to have multipel copies of the .app (how lame is that!) |
| 18:39.16 | hans | hehe |
| 18:39.44 | Jayce^ | it actually forwards sound too |
| 18:45.05 | hans | ultravnc... yet another vnc? why? |
| 18:47.20 | sjansen | for remote blogging and revision management, of course |
| 18:53.40 | Jayce^ | hey, .4.1 was just released |
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| 19:18.30 | tensai | why, oh why would you use `snmpget ...` instead of Net::SNMP? |
| 19:19.54 | tensai | it's not like this is the lame php module which only supports snmp v1 |
| 20:02.09 | levi | tensai: Because with snmpget you don't have to use perl. |
| 20:02.55 | tensai | levi: you do if the snmpget is called from within perl |
| 20:03.20 | levi | Oh. Well, then, I don't know why. |
| 20:03.22 | tensai | somebody wrote this code that forks off an snmpget rather than using a native library. bad, bad, bad. |
| 20:04.25 | tensai | and now I've ripped it out. gee, that wasn't so hard. |
| 20:05.48 | levi | Is that a standard poodle or a toy poodle? |
| 20:06.26 | QBFreak | not sure, I lost the instruction sheet |
| 20:12.50 | findlay | can you get one at walmart? |
| 20:13.26 | QBFreak | they were out last time I was there |
| 20:13.33 | QBFreak | but they had wet gold fish |
| 20:14.41 | maquis | hmmm... gaim isn't doing anything for me right now |
| 20:18.12 | findlay | are you kidding?? gaim does everything! |
| 20:18.27 | maquis | what i mean is.. it won't connect to anywhere |
| 20:18.31 | findlay | it can even make pizza |
| 20:18.46 | QBFreak | ooo pizza |
| 20:19.06 | findlay | so like im://maquis@anywhere? |
| 20:19.37 | maquis | -lart findlay |
| 20:19.48 | maquis | ~spell etiquette |
| 20:19.57 | findlay | maquis: try netstat |
| 20:20.09 | maquis | findlay: i will once i get this email out :) |
| 20:20.37 | findlay | ~hug netstat in sjansen fashion |
| 20:20.38 | ibot | ACTION hugs netstat in sjansen fashion |
| 20:20.58 | findlay | 'netstat -tuw' |
| 20:21.12 | findlay | oops, enter key is too big |
| 20:23.02 | findlay | 'netstat -tu -awNe' or whatever |
| 20:23.39 | findlay | and then apply some tcpdump liberally |
| 20:39.02 | harleypig | Yay ... I'm not using Winblows on anything now! |
| 20:39.12 | hans | -praise harleypig |
| 20:39.21 | harleypig | Well, I'll soon be installing wine, but that's nat the same thing |
| 20:39.24 | harleypig | :] |
| 20:39.54 | harleypig | now I need to get my ipaq working |
| 20:40.14 | harleypig | ewww ... and install mozilla |
| 20:41.06 | tensai | harleypig: if wine doesn't work for your specifiy app, give crossover a shot. it's not perfect, but works pretty well. |
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| 20:43.41 | harleypig | tensai: the only app I really need to work is Steams counterstrike |
| 20:43.55 | harleypig | though, I suppose Jayce^ is really gonna be pushing for wow now. |
| 20:44.10 | Jayce^ | wow works great in Wine |
| 20:44.26 | harleypig | Jayce^: *sigh* How much is it? |
| 20:44.42 | graphyx | harleypig: You ever played natural selection? |
| 20:45.16 | harleypig | graphyx: Don't think so ... that's where you give a bunch of gangsta kids a fully loaded weapon and let them play russion roulette? |
| 20:45.23 | graphyx | no.. |
| 20:45.28 | graphyx | It's a half life mod like counter strike. |
| 20:45.34 | graphyx | marine vs. alien.s |
| 20:45.43 | graphyx | with a RTS twist. |
| 20:45.52 | harleypig | never even heard of it. RTS? can't place the acronym |
| 20:45.59 | harleypig | Is it a free mod? |
| 20:46.02 | Jayce^ | real time strategy |
| 20:46.06 | graphyx | Real Time Strategy. |
| 20:46.10 | harleypig | oh, like wow? |
| 20:46.13 | Jayce^ | no |
| 20:46.20 | Jayce^ | like original warcraft |
| 20:46.36 | harleypig | ? What is wow then? |
| 20:46.53 | Jayce^ | mmorpg |
| 20:47.10 | graphyx | harleypig: And you call yourself a geek??? |
| 20:47.55 | graphyx | harleypig: Whats FPS? |
| 20:48.06 | graphyx | you have 2 potential answers both are acceptable. |
| 20:48.19 | graphyx | bonus points for naming them both. |
| 20:48.48 | jsmith | First Person Shooter, or Frames per second |
| 20:49.20 | harleypig | graphyx: I know what fps is! I just couldn't place the stoopid acronym! You and Jayce^ |
| 20:49.37 | hans | did one of you pwn him? |
| 20:49.48 | hans | mid-sentence even |
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| 20:52.41 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.43 | harleypig | . |
| 20:52.45 | harleypig | happy? |
| 20:52.50 | harleypig | :] |
| 20:53.03 | Jayce^ | ~seen fozz |
| 20:53.08 | ibot | fozz <~fozz@166.70.238.250> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 226d 2h 28m 57s ago, saying: '~seen tene'. |
| 20:53.19 | harleypig | ~seen tene |
| 20:53.21 | ibot | tene is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 80 messages. Is idling for 2h 37m 8s, last said: '~seen ibot'. |
| 20:53.23 | hans | ~seen fozzmoo |
| 20:53.25 | ibot | fozzmoo <n=fozz@65.89.234.66> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 22h 50m 11s ago, saying: '^Migs^ == flamebait'. |
| 20:53.26 | harleypig | :} |
| 20:53.35 | Jayce^ | knew I'd seen him more recently than that |
| 20:54.09 | mrpull- | Question for the RT Experts... |
| 20:54.21 | hans | realtime experts? |
| 20:54.23 | mrpull- | i use http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=229052 to automate the email routing to queues |
| 20:54.36 | harleypig | Really Tricky |
| 20:54.42 | mrpull- | but i'd like to use procmail to filter some messages |
| 20:54.43 | harleypig | Rag Tag |
| 20:54.51 | Hhhhh | W00T!! I got wi-fi to work in my Zaurus SL-5500 PDA ;) |
| 20:54.52 | harleypig | Really Truly |
| 20:55.03 | harleypig | Hhhhh: congrats |
| 20:55.07 | mrpull- | procmail only works for local mailboxes and not for the RT queues |
| 20:55.07 | Hhhhh | love linux as an embedded OS ;) |
| 20:56.40 | Jayce^ | mrpull-, not too sure about exim, but if you could pipe the data through procmail, or maybe a script with Mail::Audit (very ncie) |
| 20:56.41 | Jayce^ | nice |
| 20:59.27 | levi | Hhhhh: Now watch your battery meter drain... :) |
| 21:00.25 | lars-ut | Royal Electric wanted $80 |
| 21:00.41 | harleypig | find someone who can whistle really well. |
| 21:00.43 | lars-ut | for their low-end model. This is just tip & ring use |
| 21:00.46 | Jayce^ | home depot? |
| 21:00.59 | jsmith | lars-ut: Did you try CED? Greybar? |
| 21:01.02 | Hhhhh | levi, I've been warned before |
| 21:01.06 | Jayce^ | greybar is gone jsmith |
| 21:01.11 | Hhhhh | levi, I carry AC cord |
| 21:01.14 | Jayce^ | codale if you are a business |
| 21:01.31 | lars-ut | This will be purchased with a businees credit card |
| 21:01.41 | lars-ut | jsmith: no |
| 21:01.45 | lars-ut | jsmith: no |
| 21:02.38 | jsmith | Jayce^: That's nice to know... haven't been there in ~5 years... |
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| 21:10.01 | lars-ut | CED says $90 for tone generator - none in stock |
| 21:13.34 | lars-ut | $89 at home depot |
| 21:13.48 | lars-ut | wow - looks like it's back to Royal for $80 |
| 21:13.56 | levi | What's this tone generator thing? |
| 21:14.04 | lars-ut | helps you find pairs |
| 21:14.23 | QBFreak | is it anything more complicated than say a small tape player? :) |
| 21:14.46 | QBFreak | oh, I bet it helps you tell when you get close doesn't it? |
| 21:14.56 | levi | Is that one of the gadgets you hook to one end and wave a wand around on the other? |
| 21:15.04 | lars-ut | yep. plug it into a jack or clip on to wires & sends a 60Hz tone through them that can be amplified on the other |
| 21:15.27 | lars-ut | well anywhere along the wires actually |
| 21:15.40 | QBFreak | ah ok, that makes sense as to the price :) |
| 21:15.56 | lars-ut | not to me - think this was $40 2 years ago |
| 21:16.10 | QBFreak | I mean more sense than a few dollars :) |
| 21:16.16 | lars-ut | ah. |
| 21:16.40 | lars-ut | ~weather kpvu |
| 21:16.48 | levi | OK, yeah, I used one of those before. Very handy when you have a rat's nest of cables and no labels indicating which wall outlets correspond to patch panel ports... |
| 21:16.50 | QBFreak | if you're going end to end you can get away with a portable radio or something, some aligator clips and a speaker :) |
| 21:17.03 | lars-ut | lol |
| 21:17.40 | lars-ut | "hey, is that Stan Ridgeway?" |
| 21:17.44 | QBFreak | its all just wire :) |
| 21:18.17 | lars-ut | "yep, Lars must have lost a pair again." |
| 21:18.28 | QBFreak | heh |
| 21:18.36 | lars-ut | :) |
| 21:19.08 | QBFreak | use a push button switch for pulse dialing :) |
| 21:19.29 | levi | lars-ut: Couldn't you get out your electronics textbook and whip one up? |
| 21:19.48 | QBFreak | I missed out on the phreaking days, alas |
| 21:20.00 | maquis | erm... is anyone else having problems getting google to load? |
| 21:20.12 | QBFreak | nope |
| 21:20.28 | QBFreak | you can always test it with the bot, |
| 21:20.29 | QBFreak | http://www.google.com/ |
| 21:20.30 | brac | [Google] |
| 21:20.36 | lars-ut | levi: maybe I should borrow yours |
| 21:20.55 | levi | lars-ut: I don't have one; I just used one. |
| 21:21.06 | maquis | hmmm |
| 21:21.08 | levi | maquis: Doesn't like you, apparently. |
| 21:21.10 | lars-ut | levi: no textbook? |
| 21:21.12 | sjansen | maquis: Are you on campus? There's your problem. |
| 21:21.13 | maquis | the google search bar works... |
| 21:21.20 | maquis | sjansen: yes... i am |
| 21:21.22 | levi | lars-ut: Nope. |
| 21:21.34 | lars-ut | me neither |
| 21:21.53 | lars-ut | guess I'll go waste somebody else's money now. |
| 21:22.01 | QBFreak | maquis: the excuse generator says: heavy gravity fluctuation, move computer to floor rapidly |
| 21:22.09 | maquis | QBFreak: thanks :) |
| 21:22.35 | lars-ut | HAving a tone generator will be nice for the next guy when I leave though |
| 21:22.51 | QBFreak | ~excuse |
| 21:22.53 | ibot | [excuse] http://www.randomexcuse.com/ |
| 21:22.53 | QBFreak | alas |
| 21:22.56 | QBFreak | ah |
| 21:22.59 | lars-ut | thanks for the suggestions |
| 21:23.01 | lars-ut | ~bofh |
| 21:23.02 | ibot | well, bofh is Bastard Operator From Hell - see http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/ |
| 21:23.04 | brac | [The Register: The Home of the Mighty BOFH] |
| 21:23.33 | QBFreak | lars: I prefer his excuses to the randomexcuse.com |
| 21:23.38 | lars-ut | oh yeah. |
| 21:24.10 | sjansen | bofh has a feed! |
| 21:24.51 | graphyx | the solar eclipse caused undue stress on the satalitte dish causing a powersurge which popped one of the capacitors on the server. It will take me a number of hours to get the power supply fixed... |
| 21:27.07 | levi | lars-ut-away: I just found one online for $50 |
| 21:27.28 | lars-ut-away | levi: need it today though |
| 21:27.34 | levi | Ahh. |
| 21:27.59 | lars-ut-away | I'd like the link for myself - I should buy one for my toolkit. |
| 21:31.04 | levi | I don't have it anymore. I just did a froogle search. |
| 21:33.11 | hans | ~excuse |
| 21:33.13 | ibot | from memory, excuse is http://www.randomexcuse.com/ |
| 21:33.22 | hans | ~excuse maquis |
| 21:33.35 | hans | didn't the bot used to give you an excuse? |
| 21:33.36 | hans | -fortune |
| 21:33.37 | brac | You are wise, witty, and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of trash. |
| 21:37.46 | lars-ut-away | http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/excerpts.rss |
| 21:42.38 | sjansen | http://blogs.siliconvalley.com/gmsv/2006/01/quoted_12.html |
| 21:43.17 | sjansen | You know, at first I thought that taxing virtual income was obviously wrong, but I'm starting to come around to the idea. |
| 21:43.49 | sjansen | In fact, I've realized I wouldn't mine being able to pay taxes on my real income in virtual dollars also. |
| 21:48.49 | levi | sjansen: Somehow, I don't think it would work that way. |
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| 22:13.23 | harleypig | Ok. Anyone gotten networking via usb working on an ipaq? |
| 22:13.29 | harleypig | 3870 |
| 22:13.44 | harleypig | I've got kubuntu installed on my desktop, so that's no longer an issue |
| 22:24.02 | harleypig | income in virtual dollars alsodn't mine being able to pay taxes on my real |
| 22:24.09 | harleypig | woops ... sorry |
| 22:25.01 | Hhhhh | hehe |
| 22:25.07 | Hhhhh | harleypig, which room is that? |
| 22:25.20 | harleypig | ? |
| 22:25.40 | Hhhhh | heh, nevermind |
| 22:25.45 | harleypig | I was experimenting with cut-n-paste and clicked in this window by mistake |
| 22:33.21 | mrpull- | what does everybody have to gain from "the best blonde joke ever" blog posts? |
| 22:35.33 | harleypig | laughter? |
| 22:35.50 | mrpull- | harleypig: it's not funny |
| 22:35.50 | sjansen | mrpull-: Did you follow the links long enough to reach the joke? You have to keep going until you reac it. |
| 22:36.36 | mrpull- | sjansen: no. i followed two or three and figured it was a loop and a waste of my time. is that the funny part? |
| 22:37.08 | Jayce^ | mrpull-, linkage |
| 22:37.17 | mrpull- | SEO? |
| 22:37.50 | jsmith | mrpull-: Search Engine Optimization |
| 22:38.28 | harleypig | anyone willing to help me get my ipaq connected to my desktop, now that it's a linux desktop? |
| 22:47.55 | sjansen | http://linuxblogger.dyndns.org/weblog/index.php?/archives/114-guid.html |
| 22:48.42 | sjansen | When Warhol promised 15 minutes of fame, he never promised it'd come along when one was wise enough to take advantage of it. |
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| 22:51.04 | levi | Hmm. That blog asks, 'is there something big looming for linux?' And I answer, probably not. |
| 22:51.20 | mrpull- | what else has this guy predicted? |
| 22:51.34 | mrpull- | ....err... "pre-announced" |
| 22:51.50 | sjansen | Probably not a hoax. Probably just another mheath/Vorlath/fanboy. |
| 22:51.58 | mrpull- | perhaps it is the release of GNU/DOS 2006. that could rock the linux world </sarcasm> |
| 22:57.46 | RyanE_ | I think it's Linux implemented in JavaScript. KDE is still a bit sluggish. |
| 23:03.33 | mheath | bah |
| 23:03.49 | mheath | Can I go a single day without someone making some stupid insult behind my back? |
| 23:04.20 | Jayce^ | this channel? probably not... |
| 23:04.33 | Jayce^ | think it's standard fare in here |
| 23:06.35 | mrpull- | mheath: wouldn't behind your back be in a private msg? |
| 23:07.19 | mrpull- | a public room is...um public... not behind anyone's back. right? |
| 23:27.56 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone know of an up or down ascii symbol by chance? |
| 23:32.36 | sjansen | Uncle_Jesse: Man ascii. |
| 23:33.15 | sjansen | ^ and V are the best you're going to be able to do without moving into extended character sets |
| 23:33.25 | sjansen | If you go with Unicode, there's a great selection. |
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| 23:34.50 | xbmodder_ | hey |
| 23:39.06 | Uncle_Jesse | sjansen: thx |
| 23:49.35 | Hhhhh | man |
| 23:49.48 | Hhhhh | the linksys wifi CF card I have gets freakin hot after a while |
| 23:49.53 | Hhhhh | it's gonna melt my Zaurus |
| 23:50.42 | xbmodder_ | lol |
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| 23:54.00 | maquis | ~melt Hhhhh |
| 23:54.24 | xbmodder_ | QBFreak, hey' |
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| 23:55.26 | xbmodder_ | ~rot13 uggc://jjj.tragbb.bet/qbp/ra/iveg-znvy-ubjgb.kzy < rot13 encoded :) |
| 23:55.26 | ibot | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml < ebg13 rapbqrq :) |
