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| 00:05.23 | dilvie | http://www.dilvie.com/music/2005/first_day/Dilvie_-_The_First_Day.mp3 <-- I just finished tweaking the mix on this track.. spent about 3 hours, just enhancing the sound a bit. |
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| 00:20.54 | goozbach | dilvie: sounds good |
| 00:21.06 | dilvie | =) |
| 00:21.07 | dilvie | thanks. |
| 00:21.24 | goozbach | dilvie: you check out lemon demon yet? |
| 00:21.42 | dilvie | yeah, that's some cool stuff. =) |
| 00:21.45 | goozbach | there's some good stuff by that guy/group/whoever |
| 00:22.13 | goozbach | the dance like an idiot remix is cool |
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| 00:43.53 | sjansen | Oh, joy, infinite recursion. |
| 00:44.40 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 00:49.09 | xbmodder_lappy | anybody know of 'asciiland' |
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| 01:09.58 | xbmodder_lappy | synic, sup |
| 01:11.03 | maquis | @#$% |
| 01:11.05 | maquis | i need help |
| 01:11.21 | maquis | my friend needs a wireless card, so i was going to set one of my old ones up for her |
| 01:11.45 | maquis | i stuck it in, the machine blue-screened, and now, it won't boot because it claims it doesn't have a hard drive |
| 01:11.55 | QBFreak | oh nice |
| 01:12.39 | QBFreak | have you unplugged it and tried to turn it on, makes sure all the power is out of the power supply so you get a full reset on the motherboard |
| 01:14.47 | maquis | i'll try that |
| 01:14.47 | maquis | thnx |
| 01:14.55 | QBFreak | I'm not too sure what to try really, I usually make it all up as I go |
| 01:15.15 | QBFreak | good idea |
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| 01:20.36 | goozbach | ~lart maquis |
| 01:20.46 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 01:21.03 | QBFreak | that is one evil resolution |
| 01:21.31 | QBFreak | I think that was 'screen 1' |
| 01:21.40 | QBFreak | but its been so long that I'm not sure :) |
| 01:22.04 | QBFreak | laters |
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| 01:29.56 | maquis | ubuntu doesn't see the hard drive either |
| 01:30.06 | QBFreak | hmm |
| 01:30.15 | QBFreak | does the BIOS detect it? |
| 01:32.24 | xbmodder_lappy | is there a qbasic for linux compiler? |
| 01:32.33 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, umm. laptop? Desktop? |
| 01:34.23 | QBFreak | who knows |
| 01:34.37 | QBFreak | I usually ran it all interpreted |
| 01:35.20 | maquis | QBFreak: bios doesnt see it |
| 01:36.22 | fishyfire | desktop or laptop? |
| 01:38.51 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: laptop |
| 01:38.59 | maquis | i don't know how it happened |
| 01:42.18 | QBFreak | gah, laptops make it even more fun |
| 01:42.48 | QBFreak | more complicated to extract the drive to test it |
| 01:43.04 | QBFreak | not to mention you'd need an adapter or another laptop |
| 01:43.30 | QBFreak | I'm not too familiar with troubleshooting laptops |
| 01:44.00 | QBFreak | last one I broke was pretty obvious what I did, I let all the smoke out of the keyboard controller :) |
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| 01:46.06 | QBFreak | if Adecco doesn't find me something I may go back to delivering pizza for a while, I know they still want me back :) |
| 01:49.39 | maquis | QBFreak: any other ideas? |
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| 01:56.08 | QBFreak | hmm |
| 01:56.51 | QBFreak | can you get into the BIOS setup? |
| 01:57.23 | QBFreak | see if anything (specifically related to the drives) looks out of place |
| 01:57.42 | QBFreak | I'm not really sure what happened if all you did was put in a cardbus/pcmcia card |
| 01:58.19 | QBFreak | it'd be one thing if the drive simply wasn't bootable, but its gone...thats off |
| 01:58.21 | QBFreak | odd |
| 02:03.15 | QBFreak | *sigh* I suppose I should install .NET and play with it so I can say I did |
| 02:09.20 | maquis | QBFreak: i can't see anything weird in bios |
| 02:09.32 | QBFreak | meh |
| 02:09.37 | QBFreak | sounds like something failed somewhere |
| 02:09.47 | QBFreak | my best guess anyway |
| 02:10.43 | QBFreak | afaik pcmcia cards have always been hot pluggable, so its really odd that plugging one in would take out something but I don't know what else it might be |
| 02:11.01 | maquis | QBFreak: thanks for your great diagnosis |
| 02:11.07 | QBFreak | np |
| 02:11.15 | QBFreak | sorry it wasn't good news |
| 02:12.05 | maquis | anyway... we're going to try swapping hard drives later to see what happened |
| 02:12.28 | QBFreak | cool |
| 02:13.09 | QBFreak | ? |
| 02:13.25 | maquis | lost and confused |
| 02:13.35 | QBFreak | well, ignore my comment if that helps |
| 02:13.47 | maquis | haha |
| 02:14.03 | QBFreak | if the laptops are rougly the same you should be lucky enough to just swap the caddies, otherwise you'll have to open them (the drive caddy), but I believe most laptops use a mini-IDE interface these days |
| 02:14.32 | QBFreak | most of my laptop experience is with less-than-new stuff though |
| 02:14.50 | maquis | these are both around 3 years old |
| 02:15.38 | QBFreak | Pentium two or threes? |
| 02:16.36 | QBFreak | all I've got are two pentiums and a 286 |
| 02:16.40 | QBFreak | err 386 |
| 02:17.02 | maquis | p4s, i think |
| 02:17.12 | QBFreak | yeah, new stuff by my definition :) |
| 02:17.14 | maquis | not sure about the broken one... |
| 02:17.21 | maquis | :) |
| 02:17.51 | maquis | haha |
| 02:17.54 | maquis | nice way to get stuff |
| 02:18.01 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 02:18.12 | QBFreak | I finally started getting rid of 486s |
| 02:18.26 | maquis | anyway... |
| 02:22.03 | QBFreak | oh hey, anyone want a nintendo for parts? console only, don't have anything else |
| 02:23.40 | QBFreak | "Part-time IT professional" thats as clear as the job description gets |
| 02:32.14 | QBFreak | ah they're snapshot operational data for trend analysis |
| 02:38.23 | hans | http://lam.fugal.net |
| 02:38.26 | hans | is it broken for you? |
| 02:38.48 | Tene | nope |
| 02:38.51 | Tene | works fine |
| 02:47.47 | fishyfire | i get an application error |
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| 02:49.49 | Tene | Yeah, you would, you jerk. |
| 02:50.05 | fishyfire | what?! |
| 02:50.14 | fishyfire | ~lart Tene |
| 02:51.53 | QBFreak | Rails application failed to start properly |
| 02:54.51 | hans | hmmm |
| 02:55.12 | hans | and now I suppose it works fine? |
| 02:55.24 | QBFreak | LAM: Index |
| 02:55.29 | fishyfire | yep |
| 02:55.37 | hans | wierd. I didn't actually do anything |
| 02:55.45 | QBFreak | odd |
| 02:55.56 | QBFreak | issues with fcgi maybe? |
| 02:56.13 | hans | all I did was get the idea that it might work in firefox instead of safari, so open it there |
| 02:56.19 | hans | it worked |
| 02:56.25 | QBFreak | that was odd, I opened it in firefox |
| 02:56.32 | hans | and now it works in safari again |
| 02:56.39 | Tene | ... rails cares what browser you use? |
| 02:56.42 | hans | it's been working for months |
| 02:56.44 | hans | I don't think so |
| 02:56.50 | hans | but I thought my session might be messed up |
| 02:57.01 | QBFreak | could some of the fcgi instances uhave gotten confused? |
| 02:57.04 | hans | firefox would use a different session (different cookie) |
| 02:57.11 | QBFreak | true |
| 02:57.12 | Tene | oh |
| 02:58.47 | fishyfire | i opened it in firefox both times |
| 02:58.54 | fishyfire | it didn't work the first, but worked the second |
| 02:59.00 | QBFreak | same here |
| 02:59.15 | QBFreak | and I never closed the browser, just the tab |
| 02:59.35 | fishyfire | i had to open up a new browser window |
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| 03:13.18 | tensai | ~lart ctrlproxy |
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| 04:34.07 | tensai | ~dance |
| 04:34.10 | ibot | "ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' alive, stayin' alive" |
| 04:35.00 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, you still alive |
| 04:35.09 | xbmodder_lappy | or did the laptoper rip you apart |
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| 05:00.10 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: i'm alive |
| 05:00.23 | maquis | QBFreak: xbmodder_lappy: that was the most embarassing moment of my life |
| 05:00.37 | QBFreak | you get it worked out? |
| 05:00.39 | maquis | a friend came over to help, and noticed right away that the hard drive was falling out of the laptop |
| 05:01.03 | QBFreak | it was disconnected? |
| 05:01.29 | maquis | QBFreak: yeah... it's a dell, and apparently they just have a slide-in hard drive that's held in place with a screw |
| 05:01.36 | maquis | the screw was missing, so the drive was falling out... |
| 05:01.42 | QBFreak | ah yeah, that would do it |
| 05:01.53 | mheath | Hmmm |
| 05:01.57 | maquis | why this showed up during a bluescreen while i was putting a pcmcia card in is unknown |
| 05:02.01 | maquis | i must've bumped something |
| 05:02.07 | maquis | but... that was embarassing |
| 05:02.09 | mheath | I think I'll wait until I enlist, though. |
| 05:02.27 | QBFreak | yeah, things like that are, I know I did something at least as bad but I can't recall what |
| 05:02.31 | QBFreak | musta blocked it out |
| 05:05.20 | QBFreak | oh yeah, I plugged a friends speakers into his sound card but he didn't have the card screwed in and it popped out, took out the motherboard |
| 05:06.23 | mheath | Wow |
| 05:06.39 | mheath | I've had some moron unplug an AGP card in a running computer; didn't damage either the mainboard or the AGP card. |
| 05:07.46 | QBFreak | nice |
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| 05:22.17 | colera | anyone here ever used wierd-x? |
| 05:22.32 | colera | what xserver do you guy's use for windows> |
| 05:22.32 | colera | ? |
| 05:22.47 | colera | anyone here ever used wierd-x? |
| 05:22.54 | colera | lol |
| 05:22.56 | colera | sorry |
| 05:23.01 | colera | i was all scrolled up |
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| 05:24.50 | tensai | colera: I've used xfree/cygwin before. luckily I've got a better OS to use it on, so my exposure is pretty limited. |
| 05:25.03 | tensai | never heard of weird-x |
| 05:25.33 | QBFreak | I've never used X on windows but I'm pretty sure the cygwin version works |
| 05:26.19 | maquis | you have to open it and then go to the website afterwards |
| 05:26.24 | tensai | sure, it works. all the X apps show up under a single win32 app, so alt-tab switching doesn't work. few little things like that. |
| 05:26.35 | QBFreak | you can't? |
| 05:27.23 | QBFreak | if I put the URL on the command line it works fine |
| 05:28.22 | maquis | tensai: not in cygwin or anything |
| 05:28.26 | QBFreak | I've had issues with XP occasionally telling me that it was unable to open the page through firefox when it did actually work, that can be fix with the 'set program access and defaults' thing |
| 05:28.36 | maquis | like... on a normal user's laptop |
| 05:29.17 | tensai | maquis: my "sure, it works" wasn't directed to you. it was to QBFreak. |
| 05:29.23 | maquis | oh |
| 05:29.52 | QBFreak | tensai: makes sense |
| 05:30.06 | tensai | like I said, I don't really know it that well because all my desktops are linux. |
| 05:30.11 | QBFreak | heh |
| 05:30.45 | QBFreak | I'd like to run linux on the desktop but I think I'd be more likely to use it if I had it on a seperate system |
| 05:32.34 | QBFreak | I've used it enough to get around on the CLI if I need to, but I'd like to have a system I could try out distros on unti l I find something I really like |
| 05:32.44 | maquis | QBFreak: i've found that if i pull whatever i'm familiar with completely off my main computer, i learn the new OS very quickly |
| 05:33.02 | maquis | when i stopped booting into windows, i learned linux |
| 05:33.58 | maquis | if i still had windows to go to whenever i hit a snag in linux, i wouldn't've learned nearly as much as i have |
| 05:34.11 | QBFreak | yeah |
| 05:34.27 | maquis | it's not easy, but it does work |
| 05:34.47 | QBFreak | I ran it for over a month before I got too frustrated with it |
| 05:35.29 | QBFreak | meh, I didn't copy the Kubuntu CD before I left work |
| 05:35.41 | QBFreak | what all does everyone recommend? |
| 05:35.52 | QBFreak | distro-wise |
| 05:36.23 | mheath | QBFreak: I run Slackware and Gentoo, personally. |
| 05:37.18 | QBFreak | I'll have to see if theres a new version of slackware, seems to me I couldn't get it to install |
| 05:38.13 | QBFreak | the last thing I tried was based on slackware |
| 05:38.25 | xbmodder | hey |
| 05:38.29 | maquis | QBFreak: i ran gentoo for a while... it's pretty good if you really want to learn the stuff |
| 05:38.40 | mheath | QBFreak: Most things based on slackware tend to go directly against what Slackware fans like about Slackware |
| 05:38.51 | mheath | Slackware is simple, minimal, clean, conservative, and well maintained |
| 05:39.14 | mheath | A lot of the stuff based on Slackware tends to be sloppy with a lot of bad cutting-edge packages added |
| 05:39.31 | QBFreak | heh |
| 05:39.34 | QBFreak | it ran pretty well |
| 05:39.41 | mheath | w00t, I just finished my course work |
| 05:39.56 | QBFreak | yay! |
| 05:40.41 | QBFreak | I found it looking for something light-weight and fast, the GUI worked fairly well for the system it was running on |
| 05:40.50 | QBFreak | I think it was a 266 or 300 |
| 05:40.57 | mheath | lmao |
| 05:41.01 | QBFreak | so I tried it on the desktop, I was pretty pleased |
| 05:41.14 | mheath | the last time I ran KDE (granted it was two years ago), *it* ran nicely on a 400mhz. |
| 05:41.28 | mheath | "light-weight GUIs" are needed for ~100mhz |
| 05:41.53 | QBFreak | well, KDE on FC4 was pretty sluggish on a comparable machine |
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| 05:42.18 | QBFreak | same piece of hardware actually, a CD duper I upgraded to DVDs, one at home and one at work |
| 05:43.04 | QBFreak | I think the biggest reason I don't play with it much is that means less internet time :) |
| 05:43.41 | QBFreak | is there a console based IRC client that typically comes installed on most linux systems? my laptop can handly putty but not much more :) |
| 05:43.43 | mheath | well, goodnight |
| 05:43.52 | mheath | Time for me to get some sleep |
| 05:43.53 | QBFreak | goodnight, thanks for the suggestions |
| 05:44.09 | mheath | I'm getting up a bit early tomorrow...decided to start doing my workout in the mornings |
| 05:44.22 | QBFreak | cool |
| 05:44.28 | mheath | QBFreak: irssi is a nice console text client |
| 05:44.37 | mheath | Comes with Slackware, I don't know what else |
| 05:44.56 | QBFreak | hmm, not on my server (RH7.3) |
| 05:45.03 | mheath | "BitchX" is also popular, though its name, default random quit messages, and several other things contains a lot of vulgarity. That offends a lot of people. |
| 05:45.08 | tensai | QBFreak: I prefer bitchx |
| 05:45.19 | QBFreak | doesn't sound like my sort of app :) |
| 05:45.54 | mheath | QBFreak: other than the name and the default (random) quit messages, its just a normal, nice IRC client. Very configurable and scriptable. |
| 05:46.05 | QBFreak | later |
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| 06:06.46 | Tene | heya, Cubey |
| 06:09.20 | qbfreak | and this is about the point where my attention span gets me |
| 06:09.37 | qbfreak | but this is one step closer when I do get around to trying something :) |
| 06:11.00 | qbfreak | besides, now I know I can get on here if I'm ever out of town with my laptop :) |
| 06:12.29 | maquis | hmmm... is it normal for a windows box to blue-screen and reboot itself about once every half hour or so? |
| 06:13.12 | qbfreak | maybe if its win95 |
| 06:13.31 | qbfreak | but generally I expect at least a few hours if not a day or more up |
| 06:13.47 | maquis | it's XP |
| 06:13.49 | qbfreak | weeks if its XP |
| 06:14.19 | qbfreak | if it weren't for XP I may have abandoned windows by now out of sheer annoyance at the instability |
| 06:18.07 | maquis | methinks there's something wrong with this box, but i can't figure out what it is |
| 06:18.27 | qbfreak | bad RAM? |
| 06:18.36 | maquis | i'm not sure |
| 06:18.41 | qbfreak | is the HDD secured? |
| 06:18.50 | maquis | from what i can tell, this didn't happen before i installed the wireless card |
| 06:18.56 | qbfreak | meh |
| 06:19.20 | qbfreak | if the drive popped out running system files could have been corrupted |
| 06:20.28 | qbfreak | you could get the Ultimate Boot CD and try one of the memory testers, I don't recall what other diag stuff they have, some |
| 06:20.38 | qbfreak | or you could run scandisk, but that has been known to eat files |
| 06:20.43 | tensai | maquis: well, does it work better without the wireless card? |
| 06:21.06 | qbfreak | it emptied a 10TB disk at work on multiple occasions... |
| 06:21.18 | maquis | tensai: i didn't see the problem without the wireless card in |
| 06:21.34 | qbfreak | if you remove it now, does that help? |
| 06:21.43 | tensai | maquis: ok, but you should take the wireless card out and see if the problem goes away. |
| 06:21.48 | maquis | the problem is, without wireless, she doesn't have internet access (roommates too cheap to pay for internet... sounds familiar to me) |
| 06:22.00 | maquis | tensai: i can try that, but 'm not sure if i'll be able to tell whether it's resolved or not |
| 06:22.09 | maquis | i'll take it out and let it think for a bit, though |
| 06:22.23 | tensai | leave it that way overnight or something. you sleep, right? |
| 06:22.26 | maquis | once it's done updating virus definitions... |
| 06:22.33 | maquis | yeah... |
| 06:22.39 | maquis | i told her i'd get the computer back to her tonight, though |
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| 06:36.46 | levi | Gah, I'm having network problems. |
| 06:36.52 | qbfreak | :( |
| 06:36.55 | tensai | ~lart network problems |
| 06:37.52 | levi | Anyone here have DSL? |
| 06:38.01 | tensai | yes. not xmission, though |
| 06:38.16 | levi | What are your signal stats? |
| 06:38.28 | tensai | you mean on the craptiontec? |
| 06:38.32 | levi | Yeah. |
| 06:39.34 | tensai | I've got an older firmware and it doesn't show the stats |
| 06:40.01 | tensai | I was going to upgrade but I'm scared of breaking it |
| 06:40.04 | tensai | sorry :( |
| 06:40.10 | levi | Mine worked WAY better after the upgrade. |
| 06:40.21 | levi | I'd go for it. |
| 06:40.42 | levi | So you don't have a 'WAN Status' page? |
| 06:40.59 | tensai | I've reached a stable point by turning off every since service except pppoa |
| 06:41.23 | levi | You really should upgrade. |
| 06:41.25 | tensai | oh, hey. there it is. |
| 06:41.45 | levi | Then the rest of it works, and you can forward ports and stuff. |
| 06:41.49 | tensai | it's not as detailed as the new version. any particular number you want? |
| 06:42.12 | tensai | meh, port forwarding. there's no stinking NAT on my network. |
| 06:42.14 | levi | SNR Margin, Transmit Power, and Attenuation |
| 06:42.26 | levi | Ahh. |
| 06:42.36 | levi | Well, then you don't need the rest of it, I suppose. |
| 06:42.46 | tensai | yup, those are the numbers I don't have. I've got near and far end CRC errors and FEC. |
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| 06:42.56 | levi | I'd upgrade it just because of how crappy the old firmware was. |
| 06:43.11 | levi | How many FEC and CRC errors? |
| 06:43.24 | levi | And what kind of down/up speed? |
| 06:43.35 | tensai | CRC: 2/0, 3/0. FEC: 544/0, 31423/0. |
| 06:43.47 | levi | Hmm. |
| 06:43.55 | findlay | mm |
| 06:43.57 | tensai | speed is 1536/896 |
| 06:44.25 | levi | Mine has CRC: 1/0, 3/0 FEC: 680/0, 1025729/0 and rising rapidly. |
| 06:44.37 | levi | Anyone else here have an Actiontec? |
| 06:44.56 | findlay | I've seen one before. Does that count? |
| 06:45.08 | tensai | my box has been up for a few weeks at least, to put those numbers in perspective |
| 06:45.13 | levi | My speed is only 1472/640Kbps |
| 06:45.27 | levi | tensai: I just rebooted my modem when I relocated it. |
| 06:45.37 | levi | tensai: I plugged it in where it was before. |
| 06:46.12 | qbfreak | same cord and all that? |
| 06:47.07 | levi | Yeah. |
| 06:47.58 | qbfreak | its bed time for the cubey, laters all |
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| 14:15.33 | graphyx | morning |
| 14:15.55 | graphyx | Hey newsome, How is it going? |
| 14:15.58 | synic | heh, mitch hedburg is the best. |
| 14:16.00 | synic | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:16.16 | graphyx | That's good. |
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| 14:17.26 | Newsome | not bad |
| 14:22.57 | graphyx | Anyone know what the cost of living in Seattle, WA is?> |
| 14:23.03 | graphyx | compared to Orem? |
| 14:23.11 | elg | more, would be my guess |
| 14:23.21 | elg | except the fish might be cheaper |
| 14:27.56 | tensai | also, there are 2 starbucks on every corner |
| 14:29.27 | elg | "The Fedora Core 5 Release will include Mono in the distribution, in spite of Red Hat's opposition" |
| 14:29.32 | elg | why in the world would redhat be opposed? |
| 14:30.10 | graphyx | Doesn't Red Hat pay for the main group of devs on Fedora Core? |
| 14:36.01 | elg | no clue |
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| 14:55.39 | elg | -lart vonaparte |
| 14:59.13 | graphyx | Bapleon Vonaparte |
| 15:03.29 | vontrapp | oh look, you guys hurt his feelings |
| 15:03.38 | elg | -lart vontrapp |
| 15:04.09 | graphyx | ~say -lart vontrapp |
| 15:04.11 | ibot | -lart vontrapp |
| 15:04.21 | maquis | graphyx: seattle is a lot more expensive |
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| 15:46.08 | Newsome | oh, shut up, ibot |
| 15:46.27 | graphyx | If you want to disable it you need to set the onjoin off |
| 15:46.43 | graphyx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:55.54 | harleypig | ibot, can I see your source? |
| 15:56.19 | harleypig | ibot, home? |
| 15:56.21 | ibot | hmm... home is that place we never get to go to. |
| 15:56.26 | harleypig | heh |
| 15:56.40 | harleypig | ibot, homepage? |
| 15:56.43 | ibot | homepage is, like, SELECT * from factoids |
| 16:09.48 | maquis | ~info |
| 16:09.54 | maquis | ~ibot |
| 16:09.55 | ibot | somebody said ibot was a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 16:10.57 | maquis | ~blootbot |
| 16:10.58 | ibot | blootbot is probably an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/,. I am a blootbot |
| 16:11.05 | maquis | harleypig: ^^^ |
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| 16:17.41 | harleypig | maquis: thanks. |
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| 16:25.06 | emcnabb | http://store.pcpowerzone.com/thermaltake.html |
| 16:25.08 | brac | [PCPOWERZONE - Thermaltake 5.25" Drive Bay Beverage Tray] |
| 16:25.44 | levi_ | emcnabb: Heh, nice. |
| 16:26.10 | levi_ | emcnabb: I hope no one tries to play CDs in it. |
| 16:26.38 | Hhhhh | does anybody here have/have had a zaurus linux pda? |
| 16:27.09 | levi | I have one. |
| 16:28.26 | Hhhhh | levi, which one? |
| 16:29.09 | levi | The 5500, or whatever it is. |
| 16:29.55 | Hhhhh | levi, impressions? |
| 16:30.12 | Hhhhh | how would it compare to other $200 PDAs in the market? |
| 16:30.58 | levi | If you want to use it as a PDA, well, I'm not sure. |
| 16:31.10 | levi | If you use the Sharp ROM, it's not a great PDA. |
| 16:31.34 | Hhhhh | how about the battery? |
| 16:31.55 | levi | The OpenZaurus project has made a few releases since I used it, so I'm not sure how it is these days, but it was better than the Sharp ROM last time I tried it. |
| 16:32.24 | levi | The battery isn't great, but it's fairly cheap so you could get a spare. It's adequate, I suppose, if you're not doing WiFi. |
| 16:32.39 | Hhhhh | well, I inteded to do some wifi |
| 16:32.54 | Hhhhh | i've heard it'll last like 30 mins or so if I do that |
| 16:33.02 | levi | It's probably fine if you just want to occasionally turn it on and grab some email, but it drains pretty quick if you leave it on. |
| 16:33.25 | levi | The Zaurus is also a bit on the large side. |
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| 16:34.32 | Hhhhh | that's fine, I usually wear cargo pants so I can carry it fine |
| 16:34.59 | Hhhhh | levi, are you interested on selling it? |
| 16:35.35 | levi | Sorry, no. It's not worth a whole lot, and I want to keep it around in case I ever get around to working on a project I wanted to use it for. |
| 16:35.42 | Hhhhh | all right |
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| 16:35.53 | Hhhhh | you know of anybody who has one for sale? |
| 16:36.06 | levi | Someone recently wanted to sell one on the PLUG list. |
| 16:36.10 | maquis | Hhhhh: someone on plug |
| 16:36.13 | maquis | yeah |
| 16:36.15 | maquis | what levi said |
| 16:36.32 | Hhhhh | hmm, I'm not subscribed to plug |
| 16:37.52 | harleypig | Hhhhh: http://plug.org/pipermail/plug/2006-January/018633.html |
| 16:37.53 | brac | [OT: Zaurus and extras for sale] |
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| 16:38.11 | maquis | Hhhhh: don't bother reading the rest of the thread... |
| 16:38.27 | harleypig | maquis: :D |
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| 16:38.37 | maquis | harleypig: :) |
| 16:39.59 | lars-ut | ~emulate gir |
| 16:40.01 | ibot | where's my moose? |
| 16:43.28 | elg | 20m down? |
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| 16:46.48 | levi | Yow. |
| 16:47.08 | levi | Well, if I could get my DSL to be reliable at whatever level I've got now... |
| 16:47.39 | levi | For some reason, FTP and occasional web sites would stall for me yesterday. |
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| 16:53.51 | sjansen | Ah, a fungicide. |
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| 16:59.10 | brac | What a crazy fool! Did you mean |help stats? |
| 16:59.40 | EC1 | ~lart soney for the stupid rootkit |
| 16:59.58 | EC1 | I just found it for the first time on a professors machine |
| 17:01.04 | maquis | s/soney/sony |
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| 17:11.05 | harleypig | ibot seen timriker? |
| 17:11.09 | ibot | timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #botpark, 17h 59m 15s ago, saying: '~exchange 1000000 TRL to TRY'. |
| 17:12.12 | sjansen | Yay cheating! |
| 17:12.37 | levi | Wow, this is a cool way to do a hybrid motor: http://www.autoblog.com/2006/01/09/detroit-auto-show-subaru-b5-tph/ |
| 17:12.44 | brac | [Detroit Auto Show: Subaru B5-TPH - Autoblog] |
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| 17:18.33 | sjansen | ~ping anybody |
| 17:18.35 | ibot | pong anybody |
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| 17:25.45 | levi | sjansen: pong |
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| 17:30.27 | qbfreak | its also rather ugly (the car is) |
| 17:30.47 | sjansen | My Internet is broken. :-( |
| 17:30.57 | qbfreak | not good |
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| 17:46.25 | sjansen | double plus not good |
| 17:47.07 | goozbach | ha ha |
| 17:49.52 | levi | QBFreak: Pretty much all Subarus are ugly. That one's less ugly than some. But it's fast, and sips the fuel. |
| 17:49.58 | levi | sjansen: How broken is your internet? |
| 17:50.05 | levi | sjansen: Obviously not completely, since you're here. |
| 17:50.20 | goozbach | HIS internet is broken |
| 17:50.36 | goozbach | 09:15 -!- sjansen [n=sjansen@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com] has joined #utah |
| 17:50.54 | goozbach | he's stealing from the company again... |
| 17:51.31 | goozbach | of course he didn't log into IRC until after work started |
| 17:56.16 | sjansen | http://yagni.com/combsort/index.php |
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| 17:59.09 | sjansen | http://combsort.nickstoys.com/ |
| 18:02.04 | sjansen | The shakespearean version of combosort is funcy. |
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| 18:11.15 | *** topic/#utah is The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds | if you're looking to donate an old computer, check out stuporglue.org, *SSS 2006.01 released* [ http://softwarefor.org/get_software.html ] |
| 18:11.15 | *** mode/#utah [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 18:11.21 | TimRiker | ibot: onjoin timriker <action> runs and hides from his master |
| 18:11.21 | ibot | ok, TimRiker |
| 18:11.28 | TimRiker | ibot: onjoin timriker |
| 18:12.02 | TimRiker | tensai: I had to nuke and recreate the table so old onjoins are gone. |
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| 18:12.18 | TimRiker | tensai: do you have a sf account? |
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| 18:18.22 | qbfreak | http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ says Warning: mysql_db_query(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /home/groups/b/bl/blootbot/htdocs/inc/news.inc on line 6 |
| 18:18.23 | brac | [B L O O T B O T . H O M E] |
| 18:19.54 | TimRiker | qbfreak: hmm. |
| 18:20.54 | TimRiker | forgot that blootbot used mysql. I wonder if there are still backups of the old mysql stuff. |
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| 18:21.36 | Uncle_Jesse | cool - imac G5 is intel now, 2-3x faster than current imac G5 |
| 18:22.44 | Uncle_Jesse | steve jobs claims it's faster than any other desktop pc out there |
| 18:23.39 | Newsome | does it still look like a VW Bug? |
| 18:23.54 | Jayce^ | ? |
| 18:26.01 | Uncle_Jesse | Newsome: that was the emac I thought |
| 18:26.13 | Newsome | maybe |
| 18:26.15 | Uncle_Jesse | imac looks like a flatscreen monitor |
| 18:26.36 | Jayce^ | emac is what the old imacs looked like |
| 18:28.12 | Uncle_Jesse | I wasn't much of a mac user back then, so I'm not one to say |
| 18:28.15 | Uncle_Jesse | they are cool now though |
| 18:29.57 | Uncle_Jesse | ooh - info on powerbook |
| 18:30.05 | levi | Jayce^: Don't forget the lamp-style iMac model in-between the eMac style and the flat-panel style. |
| 18:30.15 | Jayce^ | levi, correct... |
| 18:30.19 | Uncle_Jesse | I liked the lamp style - wish they stayed w/ it |
| 18:31.29 | Uncle_Jesse | power book is now "mac book pro" :-( |
| 18:34.28 | Uncle_Jesse | 5x faster, thinnest ever, built in isight |
| 18:36.06 | tensai | ~onjoin timriker |
| 18:36.46 | tensai | TimRiker: thanks, on all accounts. I've had that sf.net account for so long and never done anything with it. about time I guess. |
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| 18:38.00 | scott | well I sure hope this new macbook pro is too expensive so I don't have to regret having bought an ibook so recently |
| 18:39.14 | wps | $1999 |
| 18:39.17 | Jayce^ | it's their normal prices for pbooks |
| 18:39.23 | Jayce^ | $2k or $2.5k |
| 18:39.48 | scott | nice :) |
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| 18:41.13 | levi | Probably too expensive for an iBook buyer. :) |
| 18:45.05 | BigMeany | ibot: onjoin tensai <action> punches tensai |
| 18:45.05 | ibot | BigMeany: ok |
| 18:48.21 | jj0 | Who sets the topic? any chance you want to add a new utah club to the list? utah asterisk users group, http://utaug.org |
| 18:51.00 | jj0 | First meeting is Jan 11 (this wednesday) we will be giving away some free DID's to all memebers, a few free O'Reilly books, and a presentation by Dave packham (config edit author) and jared smith (iax trunking) |
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| 18:52.48 | levi | Huh, I've never heard of Express Card/34 before. |
| 18:55.29 | sjansen | jj0: Any chance in the future you guys could meet on a day that doesn't conflict with Plug? |
| 18:56.46 | Jayce^ | sjansen, c'mon, you know we've always been moving that date around :) |
| 18:56.51 | sjansen | jj0: Your president/dictator should probably join UTOSC too. |
| 18:57.07 | jj0 | doh |
| 18:57.31 | jj0 | plug is on the same day, my bad. We can probably bump it to tonight if anybody would show up |
| 18:57.58 | sjansen | Tonight isn't good for me (too little notice), but I'd show up on Thursday. |
| 18:58.00 | Jayce^ | jj0, plug runs 2nd wednesday, about 9 years now :) Sllug is the 3rd |
| 19:01.43 | jj0 | Well it looks like you beat us to the 2nd wednesday by a few years |
| 19:02.25 | Jayce^ | yeahk, just talk to the various group leaders around here, we like to schedule around each other, so people can go to everything |
| 19:02.41 | Jayce^ | except that darn Mecworks guy who moves slug ahead a week last month...... |
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| 19:55.25 | graphyx | so does that mean there is a PLUG meeting tomorrow night? |
| 20:00.53 | qbfreak | free stuff eh? sadly mapquest says a good 31 hours to get there |
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| 20:03.34 | findlay | google maps guarantees 50% less or better trave times |
| 20:03.47 | findlay | s/trave/travel |
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| 20:04.36 | qbfreak | actually that was to plug, their page has a link to mapquest with their location |
| 20:07.54 | qbfreak | interesting, google takes me through iowa |
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| 20:08.55 | qbfreak | outa get him to say something like Captain on the bridge :) |
| 20:11.33 | dataw0lf | ah, Asterisk user group. Cool stuff. |
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| 20:32.16 | *** topic/#utah by tensai -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com, utaug.org. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds | if you're looking to donate an old computer, check out stuporglue.org, *SSS 2006.01 released* [ http://softwarefor.org/get_software.html ] |
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| 20:41.34 | maquis | -lart sjk36 |
| 20:42.01 | sjk36 | maquis who was that teacher for English 316? |
| 20:42.32 | maquis | sjk36: haven't hada chance to look yet |
| 20:42.47 | maquis | i was busy working with kristine's computer til midnight las night... |
| 20:42.55 | maquis | i can't check til i get out of class today |
| 20:44.24 | maquis | ~cheer for wireless in the marb |
| 20:44.25 | ibot | Three cheers for for wireless in the marb! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! |
| 20:53.14 | sjansen | cat <<- EOF | while read TOOL; do echo $TOOL; done |
| 20:53.16 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.17 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.19 | sjansen | EOF |
| 20:53.47 | harleypig | ow |
| 20:54.00 | harleypig | why oh why did I switch to this window just at this moment. |
| 20:58.13 | goozbach | buhahahahahah!!! |
| 20:58.27 | Jayce^ | ~paint goozbach |
| 20:58.28 | ibot | ACTION rains a tape stream of paintballs on goozbach |
| 20:59.20 | graphyx | Ok I just hoped on PLUG.org to get the meeting times cause I want to see if there is a meeting tomorrow. And the top of the list for events is for AUG.10. 2005 |
| 20:59.40 | Jayce^ | yeah, that was just discussed on the list |
| 20:59.51 | Jayce^ | there will be some discussion on the matter at the meeting |
| 21:00.05 | Jayce^ | but yes, meeting tomorrow, all the usual details |
| 21:00.19 | graphyx | I don't know the usual details. I haven't gone previously. |
| 21:00.36 | Jayce^ | 7:30 pm, ViaWest location (link on the page) |
| 21:00.43 | Jayce^ | topic tomorrow is Eclipse |
| 21:00.49 | graphyx | Eclipse? |
| 21:00.54 | Jayce^ | eclipse.org |
| 21:01.23 | goozbach | ooohhh!! eclipse |
| 21:01.44 | Jayce^ | you coming goozbach ? |
| 21:01.52 | goozbach | just may have to |
| 21:01.57 | Jayce^ | good, good.. |
| 21:02.02 | goozbach | I've been wanting to get into Eclipse |
| 21:02.19 | goozbach | if it can handle all the things Komodo can do now, I can switch |
| 21:02.52 | Jayce^ | well, dont' be afraid to ask preperatory questions so he can answer them :) |
| 21:02.53 | goozbach | buhahah!!! |
| 21:03.05 | goozbach | who's presenting? |
| 21:03.30 | goozbach | function completion? language support? debugging? etc? |
| 21:04.08 | goozbach | CPAN is the cool! |
| 21:05.45 | Jayce^ | Bryan Sant |
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| 21:06.14 | Jayce^ | Java guy showing us how 1337 it is, and how it can do everything we want in every one of our languages :) |
| 21:06.28 | hans | xp home doesn't let you password protect a share? |
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| 21:11.44 | tensai | hans: nope. it's a new breed of "security" |
| 21:12.13 | tensai | all netbios networking is done as a guest user. what a brilliantly retarded idea. |
| 21:12.44 | Jayce^ | retarded like a fox.. |
| 21:16.51 | Tene | an explosive fox! |
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| 21:17.18 | tensai | Tene: you blew up hans. you murderer! |
| 21:17.33 | Tene | ~distract tensai |
| 21:17.35 | ibot | ACTION puts on a blonde wig and saunters past tensai. "Hello, sailor! Wanna go for a ride?" |
| 21:17.42 | Jayce^ | Tene is a suicide bomber? |
| 21:17.46 | Jayce^ | wait, you missed one... |
| 21:17.53 | tensai | ibot: oh, you sweetie. you know I'm married. |
| 21:18.20 | *** join/#utah niquil (n=niquil@70.58.39.208) |
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| 21:19.20 | Tene | ~fox maquis |
| 21:19.40 | Tene | ibot: fox $who is <action> sends an explosive fox after $who. |
| 21:19.42 | ibot | Tene: okay |
| 21:19.47 | Tene | ~fox maquis |
| 21:19.49 | ibot | ACTION sends an explosive fox after tene. |
| 21:19.50 | *** part/#utah niquilhome (n=niquil@70.58.39.208) |
| 21:19.57 | maquis | hehe |
| 21:20.02 | Tene | Well, my ibot-fu is weak. |
| 21:20.37 | tensai | ibot: fox $Tene is <action> sends and explosive fox after $Tene |
| 21:20.39 | ibot | ACTION sends an explosive fox after tensai. |
| 21:20.45 | tensai | ibot: no, fox $Tene is <action> sends and explosive fox after $Tene |
| 21:20.47 | ibot | okay, tensai |
| 21:21.00 | tensai | ~fox Hhhhh |
| 21:21.01 | ibot | ACTION sends and explosive fox after $Tene |
| 21:21.01 | goozbach | ~ghosthack maquis |
| 21:21.03 | ibot | ACTION plugs into maquis's cyberbrain and gets busy |
| 21:21.44 | goozbach | Well I've just proven that I can be replaced with a small perl script |
| 21:21.55 | Tene | oh? |
| 21:21.59 | tensai | ~fox bonez39 |
| 21:22.01 | ibot | ACTION sends an explosive fox after bonez39 |
| 21:22.22 | goozbach | for the last week+ I've been visually comparing pdfs. |
| 21:22.32 | Tene | ~literal fox |
| 21:22.34 | ibot | "fox" is "<reply> C++-Based Library for Graphical User Interface Development. URL: http://www.cfdrc.com/FOX/fox.html" |
| 21:23.26 | goozbach | I just stumbled across a cpan module (Test::PDF) which visually compares pdf files |
| 21:23.27 | tensai | ~literal fox (.*?) |
| 21:23.28 | ibot | ACTION sends an explosive fox after (.*?) |
| 21:23.29 | lars-ut-away | ibot: no, fox $victim is <action> sends and explosive fox after $victim |
| 21:23.31 | ibot | lars-ut-away: okay |
| 21:23.38 | Jayce^ | goozbach, that Test::PDF has some flaws if you are doing real comparing, only does specific layout elements ATM, not totally correct in some cases |
| 21:23.40 | lars-ut-away | ~fox tene |
| 21:23.42 | ibot | ACTION sends and explosive fox after tene |
| 21:23.50 | tensai | ibot: no, fox $victim is <action> sends an explosive fox after $victim |
| 21:23.52 | ibot | okay, tensai |
| 21:23.58 | tensai | lars-ut-away: s/and/an/ |
| 21:24.09 | lars-ut-away | beat me |
| 21:24.09 | goozbach | Jayce^: does it suffer from false positives though? |
| 21:24.19 | lars-ut-away | ~cokezero tensai |
| 21:24.20 | ibot | ACTION puts an iv in tensai and forces 120 ounces of Coke Zero into his veins |
| 21:24.20 | goozbach | false negitives I can handle |
| 21:24.26 | bonez39 | tensai, what up? |
| 21:24.44 | tensai | bonez39: just a random larting |
| 21:24.46 | tensai | ~rlart |
| 21:24.53 | bonez39 | tensai, cool |
| 21:25.33 | Uncle_Jesse | bonez39: are you still doing chiropractic work? |
| 21:26.24 | Jayce^ | goozbach, depends on what you are looking for |
| 21:26.59 | Jayce^ | it can't tell you if the embedded font is different, but it can tell you which text is on a page, and if an image is in the right spot |
| 21:27.29 | goozbach | I'm looking for added or removed text |
| 21:27.39 | goozbach | added or removed whitespace |
| 21:27.55 | goozbach | and image/attribute locations |
| 21:28.40 | lars-ut | ~toms diner |
| 21:28.41 | ibot | toms diner is probably "There's a woman on the outside looking inside Does she see me? No she does not really see me cause she sees her own reflection And I'm trying not to notice that she's hitching up her skirt And while she's straightening her stockings her hair Is getting wet Oh, this rain it will continue through the morning as I'm listening To the bells Of ... |
| 21:28.46 | bonez39 | Uncle_Jesse, yeah, still have my license..and treating patients... |
| 21:28.57 | bonez39 | Uncle_Jesse, know someone who wants to put me to work? |
| 21:29.15 | Jayce^ | goozbach, should be good on that |
| 21:30.37 | Uncle_Jesse | bonez39: are you in utah county or slc? |
| 21:31.46 | goozbach | Jayce^: what's the PM meeting on? |
| 21:32.10 | Jayce^ | not sure |
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| 21:37.56 | bonez39 | Uncle_Jesse, I am in Sandy...... |
| 21:38.23 | bonez39 | if you ask someone who lives downtown SLC..they think I am half the way to Mexico.....if in Happy Valley, then I am up north...;) |
| 21:39.07 | Uncle_Jesse | bonez39: I may just have to see you if I'm still feeling crappy tomorrow. I've had a crook in my neck for the last 2 days and it doesn't seem to be getting better. |
| 21:39.18 | Uncle_Jesse | Do you work from home? |
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| 21:41.06 | Jayce^ | Uncle_Jesse, instead of a licensed person like bonez39, you could relax in the warming hands of harleypig. He could probably crack that neck :) |
| 21:41.37 | bonez39 | Uncle_Jesse, I'd be happy to help if I can..... |
| 21:41.41 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: I have no doubt harleypig could crack my neck - that's why I'm interested in a professional like bonez39 instead :-) |
| 21:41.58 | Uncle_Jesse | bonez39: e-mail me your contact info - jesse@thestays.org |
| 21:42.39 | Uncle_Jesse | harleypig: I'll take a hug, just not a cracked neck |
| 21:42.58 | harleypig | hold onto your shoulders ... |
| 21:43.52 | harleypig | so long as you're not into bears ... |
| 21:45.05 | mheath | haryleypig the chiropractor |
| 21:45.10 | hans | ~rlart |
| 21:45.15 | hans | -lart xp home |
| 21:45.29 | tensai | hans: why in the world are you using xp home? |
| 21:45.36 | hans | not me, a client |
| 21:46.40 | hans | it was no big deal. it was mostly paranoia that called for a password, but xp home is just plain stupid and deserved a lart. |
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| 21:49.10 | bonez39 | Uncle_Jesse, sent it just now |
| 21:49.41 | TimRiker | ~lart xp home |
| 21:52.18 | tensai | if they were going to get fined, it really would be for WinME |
| 21:53.31 | levi | Ew, WinME. |
| 21:55.13 | Uncle_Jesse | bonez39: thanks! :-) |
| 22:04.28 | qbfreak | yarr, finally someone else who sees that home just isn't as good as pro |
| 22:05.04 | Uncle_Jesse | 2 words - remote desktop |
| 22:07.49 | qbfreak | I've only used it in the classroom, typically I used VNC |
| 22:08.19 | Uncle_Jesse | remote desktop doesn't work on home which is what I mean |
| 22:08.39 | Uncle_Jesse | that was pretty quick |
| 22:08.45 | Uncle_Jesse | doh - wrong window |
| 22:08.53 | qbfreak | ah ok |
| 22:09.30 | jsmith | qbfreak: Yeah, I"ve fired more people after watching them over VNC than... well... |
| 22:09.45 | qbfreak | hehe |
| 22:10.06 | qbfreak | where I worked, we were a very small group with a large number of machines for processing, its handy to check on them all from your desk :) |
| 22:10.44 | qbfreak | bonez: could it be the firewall? I had issues getting my machines to talk to my parents computer or my sisters computer, turned out to be zonealarm |
| 22:14.24 | bonez39 | qbfreak, I run zonealarm...yeah..... |
| 22:14.40 | bonez39 | I think..now I don't recall..on her machine..I'll check though |
| 22:15.09 | qbfreak | I don't, behind a hardware firewall and I'm pretty careful abotu what I run, but both machines I wanted to get to did and did not have the local zone set up |
| 22:15.33 | dataw0lf | http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060109/480/nyet27501091906 |
| 22:15.35 | brac | [Yahoo! News Photo] |
| 22:15.51 | lars-ut | http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/ItemDetail.asp?ItemID=TS4GJF110 |
| 22:16.00 | brac | [Welcome to Transcend Online Store] |
| 22:16.02 | dataw0lf | Nice |
| 22:16.12 | dataw0lf | my 2 gb is already going out of style. |
| 22:16.16 | lars-ut | I have a 1GB PQI |
| 22:16.58 | levi | I have an iPod Shuffle. |
| 22:16.58 | qbfreak | poor cat |
| 22:17.21 | dataw0lf | I got a Corsair Voyager |
| 22:17.22 | levi | I wouldn't have bought it, but it came for free with my iBook, and I really like it now. |
| 22:17.41 | dataw0lf | I have two mp3 players now. I got an ipod mini for 50 bucks the other day. |
| 22:18.24 | RyanE | I let my Palmpilot play music. Too cheap to buy a real ipod. |
| 22:20.00 | levi | I love the Shuffle interface. You can do everything possible to do with it entirely by feel. |
| 22:21.31 | levi | I like the standard iPod interface for its flexibility, but sometimes I do wish things like the backlight were easier to turn on. |
| 22:22.06 | lars-ut | jsmith: try the Nano |
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| 22:23.16 | levi | lars-ut: The Nano's got the same interface, though. How would that convert him? |
| 22:23.48 | RyanE | yeah, but it's *sexier*. hehe. |
| 22:23.54 | lars-ut | not sure - I was much more impressed by the Nano than the ipods I looked at 2 years ago |
| 22:24.08 | lars-ut | that's my view |
| 22:24.16 | lars-ut | and you'll like it. |
| 22:24.24 | lars-ut | Would you like some more? |
| 22:24.27 | jsmith | lars-ut: Let me borrow yours for a week, and I'll let you know. |
| 22:24.29 | levi | It's the same thing, but smaller and in color. :) |
| 22:24.37 | tensai | I dig my Pequeño |
| 22:24.39 | RyanE | levi: yeah, like I said. :) |
| 22:24.42 | lars-ut | solid state |
| 22:24.42 | jsmith | lars-ut: As for now, I'm happy with what I have. |
| 22:24.57 | lars-ut | if you say iRiver.... |
| 22:25.01 | lars-ut | I'll defer. |
| 22:25.15 | jsmith | Naw. |
| 22:25.20 | lars-ut | phone? |
| 22:25.23 | jsmith | No. |
| 22:25.38 | lars-ut | hummus? |
| 22:26.11 | levi | Some Creative device? |
| 22:26.16 | RyanE | Zen? |
| 22:26.32 | lars-ut | ~sacrifice jsmith |
| 22:26.34 | ibot | ACTION sacrifices jsmith on an altar of Windows EULAs soaked in the blood of Perl. |
| 22:27.40 | jsmith | levi, RyanE: You have chosen wisely. |
| 22:27.54 | lars-ut | jsmith: http://www.apple.com/retail/thegateway/ |
| 22:28.07 | brac | [Apple Store] |
| 22:28.23 | jsmith | lars-ut: What, a whole store filled with overpriced glitz? |
| 22:28.44 | lars-ut | hey, there's a churrascaria not far from there |
| 22:28.44 | jsmith | lars-ut: I'd rather pay half as much for something that wasn't quite as good looking. |
| 22:29.04 | jsmith | lars-ut: Been there, done that, still have the gut to prove it. |
| 22:29.06 | lars-ut | and a planetarium |
| 22:29.31 | jsmith | lars-ut: So because there's a planetarium next door, I should sell my soul and join the Apple cult? |
| 22:29.40 | levi | Do they actually have star shows at the planetarium? I wasn't able to find any evidence of anything but IMAX stuff. |
| 22:29.58 | sjansen | What, no Apple store in North Dakota? |
| 22:31.05 | jsmith | sjansen: Yeah, funny thing. I can buy a PC in North Dakota, but not an overpriced one :-) |
| 22:33.22 | lars-ut | levi: Clark Planetarium's premier program returns to the dome. "Ultimate Universe" takes you on a stunning journey through the cosmos, exploring galaxies, nebulae, and our own neighborhood , the Solar System. |
| 22:33.38 | lars-ut | http://www.clarkplanetarium.org/FilesChanging2004/Schedule.html |
| 22:33.47 | jsmith | 2004? |
| 22:33.51 | levi | That's not a star show, that's an IMAX show. |
| 22:33.54 | lars-ut | weird link eh |
| 22:33.56 | jsmith | Uh... it's like 2006 now |
| 22:34.21 | lars-ut | it's a current link |
| 22:34.23 | levi | I mean a star show with projected stars that the guide can maneuver around, point out constellations, etc. |
| 22:34.34 | lars-ut | like the hansen ones? |
| 22:34.49 | levi | Well, like the ones at any real planetarium. |
| 22:34.56 | lars-ut | the old Hansen Planetarium |
| 22:36.19 | lars-ut | levi: I think you're right. That is really weird - a planetarium w/o projected stars. |
| 22:36.43 | jsmith | lars-ut: This is Utah... |
| 22:37.10 | sjansen | ~nuke goozbach |
| 22:37.13 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at goozbach ... BOOM! |
| 22:38.13 | lars-ut | ~assimilate jsmith |
| 22:38.14 | ibot | ACTION jams assimilation tubes into jsmith's neck and injects Borg nanobots. |
| 22:38.44 | jsmith | Mmmmmnnnn.... borg. If Picard can come back and be almost normal, then so can I! |
| 22:39.08 | lars-ut | crap - didn't think of that. |
| 22:39.11 | lars-ut | good point. |
| 22:39.12 | sjansen | ibot: no, nuke $goozbach is <action> prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at $goozbach ... B☢☢M! |
| 22:39.14 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 22:39.16 | sjansen | ~nuke goozbach |
| 22:39.18 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at goozbach ... B☢☢M! |
| 22:39.31 | sjansen | Cool, ibot is Unicode safe. |
| 22:40.08 | goozbach | wish my terminal was unicode safe |
| 22:40.24 | sjansen | I ♥ Unicode. |
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| 22:42.03 | levi | AAPL closing stock price today: $80.86 |
| 22:43.12 | fishyfire | anyone have experience with php? |
| 22:43.28 | jsmith | fishyfire: Uh, yeah... you might want to ask in #uphpu though. |
| 22:43.52 | sjansen | ~lart fishyfire |
| 22:44.38 | sjansen | fishyfire: Many of us have PHP experience. Most of the people in #utah with PHP experience hate it, however, or are afraid of those of us who hate it. |
| 22:45.02 | fishyfire | i don't know much about it but am learning.... just wondered if there is a way to change the from field when using the mail() function |
| 22:45.42 | fishyfire | so i can put in my own email address as opposed to the one from my hosting company |
| 22:45.48 | fishyfire | if that makes any sense... |
| 22:45.49 | sjansen | The correct answer is to not use the mail() function. Long term, you're going to be better off using one of the pure PHP SMTP implementations. (In my experience.) |
| 22:46.49 | sjansen | If you read the comments in the online PHP mail() documentation you'll find a few that you can start with. |
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| 22:47.30 | sjansen | ~eliminate PHP |
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| 22:56.31 | fishyfire | http://us2.php.net/manual/en/ref.mail.php those? |
| 22:58.09 | SpecialZ | no |
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| 22:58.45 | fishyfire | no? do you know what i'm talking about? |
| 23:00.41 | fishyfire | sjansen: using smtp_mail ? |
| 23:07.16 | SpecialZ | sorry, I only saw half the question so I just gave an arbitrary answer |
| 23:08.14 | fishyfire | that's ok... i thought it said you signed on halfway through |
| 23:14.10 | mheath | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.15 | mheath | Weird hardware question |
| 23:14.49 | mheath | Would an AMD Slot-A processor work on a Slot-A board that currently has an Intel proc? |
| 23:16.33 | RyanE | mheath: I don't think Intel made Slot-A processors. I thought they had their own Slot technology. |
| 23:16.42 | sjansen | fishyfire: probably |
| 23:16.44 | RyanE | but I could be wrong. It's been a while. |
| 23:16.53 | sjansen | Although the absolutely correct answer is to not use PHP. |
| 23:17.03 | RyanE | sjansen: hehe |
| 23:17.18 | tensai | mheath: only if you push *really* hard. hammer may be required. |
| 23:17.20 | mheath | RyanE: The entire Pentium2 line was Slot-A, for most of it's life. |
| 23:17.53 | mheath | RyanE: Not to mention some Pentium3s, and countless Pentium1-and-Pentium3 adapters. |
| 23:18.57 | mheath | tensai: So the AMD Slot-A is different than the Intel Slot-A? |
| 23:19.07 | mheath | I haven't tried fitting them, but they looked the same. |
| 23:19.25 | SpecialZ | mheath, check wikipedia |
| 23:19.49 | tensai | mheath: honestly I have no idea |
| 23:20.04 | tensai | I'd be surprised if they are the same, though |
| 23:20.08 | mheath | Ah, Slot A / Slot 1 |
| 23:20.14 | mheath | Different names |
| 23:20.19 | mheath | AMD = Slot A, Intel = Slot 1 |
| 23:20.43 | mheath | "Slot A is mechanically compatible but elecrtically incompatible with Intel's Slot 1." |
| 23:21.08 | tensai | so no hammer required, but great amounts of smoke released |
| 23:21.15 | tensai | magic smoke, even |
| 23:21.18 | jsmith | tensai: Magic smoke! |
| 23:22.45 | SpecialZ | I wouldn't trust everything wikipedia says, but it's really useful for finding how pieces of technology fit together. |
| 23:24.02 | SpecialZ | "Socket 1 was intended as a 486 upgrade socket, and added one extra pin to prevent upgrade chips from being inserted into the older socket." |
| 23:26.14 | SpecialZ | nice that they bothered to actually improve a bus or something there. |
| 23:27.30 | fishyfire | sjansen: what would you recommend using instead? |
| 23:32.24 | sjansen | Depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Ruby/Rails is really nice. Perl is powerful. Even Python (*shudder*) is better. |
| 23:33.17 | sjansen | PHP is just so hackish. And while you can find skilled PHP programmers, much of the user community is stuck in the NIH stone age. |
| 23:33.32 | fishyfire | username password login stuff to protect parts of a website |
| 23:34.03 | sjansen | How fancy does it need to be? I'd just use an apache module. |
| 23:34.15 | sjansen | Otherwise, mod_perl is a much better alternative. |
| 23:34.54 | hans | macbook?! what kind of stupid name is that? |
| 23:35.17 | jsmith | hans: A good one, if you're killing off the ibook and powerbook lines |
| 23:35.23 | fishyfire | not too fancy mostly capturing contact information |
| 23:35.24 | sjansen | The nice thing about an apache module/mod_perl solution is that your content doesn't have know anything about it. All requests get intercepted and filtered before the content is even looked up. |
| 23:35.45 | hans | whatever. it sounds stupid. looks nice though |
| 23:35.53 | Jayce^ | hans, agreed |
| 23:35.53 | fishyfire | how easy is it to learn? |
| 23:36.14 | Jayce^ | fishyfire, just come to perl mongers meetings and learn... ask questions on the list |
| 23:36.19 | Jayce^ | plenty of books/sites |
| 23:36.21 | hans | it sounds like they're worried people will forget it's a mac now that it has an intel chip |
| 23:36.32 | Jayce^ | hans, has some great specs though |
| 23:36.35 | sjansen | fishyfire: Harder than throwing something together in PHP, but easier to maintain in the long run and more powerful. |
| 23:37.01 | hans | I'm particularly jealous of the power connector. |
| 23:37.15 | jsmith | hans: Yeah, that makes it worth the extra $500... |
| 23:37.26 | hans | I didn't say that. ;-) |
| 23:37.33 | hans | but it's a nice touch |
| 23:38.05 | fishyfire | hmm so maybe i will just let this work for now, and then change it over later as i have time |
| 23:39.06 | Jayce^ | the $500 diff for the two Pro models does seem worth it, some good features in that |
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| 23:52.33 | Uncle_Jesse | btw, for those w/ ipods, the monster icruze has a deal this week - adaptor+icruze+lcd panel+free dvd = $99 |
| 23:52.41 | Uncle_Jesse | normally it's close to $400 |
| 23:52.48 | Uncle_Jesse | http://monstercable.com |
| 23:52.49 | brac | [Welcome to Monster] |
| 23:53.27 | Uncle_Jesse | (that's an ipod car adaptor for those wondering) |
| 23:55.15 | harleypig | seen random |
| 23:55.22 | harleypig | ibot seen random |
| 23:55.51 | ibot | zzzchriszzz <n=chris_ho@d119.GtokyoFL22.vectant.ne.jp> was last seen on IRC in channel #botpark, 75d 6h 15m 29s ago, saying: 'helloo! greeeetz etc. I am kinda hoping to find some nice ppl who will help a lamer get his bot to talk to him'. |
| 23:55.52 | harleypig | ~seen random |
| 23:55.56 | ibot | sombra <n=x@ti100710a080-8864.bb.online.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 58d 16h 33m 4s ago, saying: 'dondelelcaro, can I use Shorwall and ipmasq at the same time (ipmasq just disabled Shorewall, I can not start/stop/restart it)'. |