| 00:01.41 | dilvie | hehe |
| 00:01.49 | dilvie | http://www.phil801.com/devutah/index.php?title=Main_Page |
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| 00:26.18 | hans | -lart vontrapp |
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| 00:44.53 | amcnabb | Hey |
| 00:45.21 | amcnabb | Does anyone know what would cause a Windows machine to not even try to do a DNS lookup? |
| 00:45.31 | amcnabb | I'm using Ethereal, and there are absolutely no DNS packets going out. |
| 00:46.07 | amcnabb | ipconfig has the DNS server listed correctly |
| 00:46.19 | amcnabb | And if I do nslookup, the query runs correctly. |
| 00:46.47 | hans | no, bust I think I've seen this before |
| 00:46.50 | hans | good luck |
| 00:46.59 | amcnabb | How did you fix it? |
| 00:47.01 | amcnabb | Or did you? |
| 00:47.19 | hans | I don't remember fixing it |
| 00:47.29 | amcnabb | I'm about to give up and reinstall. |
| 00:47.32 | hans | which probably means I backed out and redid things and it worked that time |
| 00:47.37 | hans | I don't think I reinstalled though |
| 00:47.46 | amcnabb | Is there anything in the registry about that? |
| 00:47.55 | hans | i don't think I hacked the registery |
| 00:49.14 | amcnabb | Is there anything like a resolv.conf? |
| 00:56.54 | pmcnabb | the only place i know of is controlPanel->network&dialup->localAreaConnection->properties->internetProtocol->properties->advanced->DNS |
| 00:56.59 | pmcnabb | (messy, ugh) |
| 00:57.15 | hans | made what? |
| 00:57.23 | maquis | hrm... i was not referring to amcnabb's problem... but it wouldn't've been out of the ordinary for me to cause that type of problem... |
| 00:57.26 | maquis | hans: made it home |
| 00:58.54 | pmcnabb | amcnabb: there's also a few files (like 'hosts') in c:\winnt\system32\drivers\etc\ |
| 01:02.21 | amcnabb | pmcnabb, I've checked there, and it's set to use DHCP. |
| 01:02.36 | amcnabb | Even when I added the server specifically, it didn't seem to make a difference. |
| 01:02.59 | amcnabb | pmcnabb, "there" meaning the control panel. |
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| 01:04.22 | amcnabb | None of the stuff in etc seems to be applicable, though it's good to know where that is. |
| 01:09.36 | pmcnabb | amcnabb, i suppose the other obvious "trick" is rebooting... ? : ) |
| 01:13.05 | sjansen | Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My real email address just received spam. :-( |
| 01:13.48 | sjansen | I've been doing so well. All I use is greylisting, and I'm virtually spam free. Until now. |
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| 01:16.06 | pmcnabb | amcnabb, while you were gone, someone posted the answer to your problem |
| 01:16.11 | pmcnabb | too bad you were gone :D |
| 01:16.20 | pmcnabb | -lart amcnabb |
| 01:16.26 | maquis | ~mock amcnabb |
| 01:16.28 | ibot | ACTION pulls amcnabb's pants down and shows the world amcnabb's pink spotted underwear |
| 01:16.31 | amcnabb | hey |
| 01:16.37 | amcnabb | :) |
| 01:16.54 | amcnabb | I think there's a bad aura in this room. I had to restart my computer for the first time in a few months. |
| 01:17.03 | amcnabb | Did someone really have an answer? |
| 01:17.11 | amcnabb | Or does someone just think they're funny. |
| 01:17.14 | amcnabb | ? |
| 01:17.47 | pmcnabb | i'm sure a lot of people think they're funny |
| 01:17.48 | maquis | amcnabb: are you saying you don't trust your brother? |
| 01:18.57 | amcnabb | :) |
| 01:19.33 | sjansen | ~flog hans |
| 01:19.35 | ibot | ACTION hog-ties hans and starts the heavy punishment with a cat-o-nine-tails. |
| 01:21.12 | amcnabb | People sure are having a lot of fun with ibt tonight. |
| 01:21.15 | amcnabb | s/ibt/ibot/ |
| 01:21.32 | sjansen | that's new |
| 01:22.13 | amcnabb | I actually just made the mistake to show off the feature. |
| 01:22.14 | amcnabb | It's pretty nice. |
| 01:22.30 | sjansen | It could get pretty annoying. |
| 01:22.56 | pmcnabb | amcnabb, you could also start in /usr/src/windows/net/ipv4/ipconfig.c and... oh, never mind... |
| 01:23.02 | amcnabb | :) |
| 01:23.47 | sjansen | s/cant'/won't be able to/ ; s/this/something more complicated like this/ |
| 01:24.16 | amcnabb | Can it do third person statements? |
| 01:26.17 | sjansen | s/bets/proves/ |
| 01:26.30 | maquis | amcnabb: no... you have to be correcting yourself |
| 01:26.44 | maquis | oh... or you could've been saying that... |
| 01:26.49 | maquis | totally different issue |
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| 01:28.04 | sjansen | I could be correcting someone else. Like findlay. |
| 01:28.34 | findlay | ~correct |
| 01:28.35 | ibot | correct is probably .. no, im too stupid to give a normal answer |
| 01:28.36 | sjansen | So, for example, if findaly said "Bach rules!" |
| 01:28.54 | sjansen | I could reply "s/rules/drools/". |
| 01:29.07 | findlay | sjansen would make some oblique remark about Albinoni and the Itialian Rennissance |
| 01:31.09 | sjansen | s/oblique/insightful/ |
| 01:31.15 | sjansen | See what I mean? Annoying. |
| 01:31.40 | sjansen | ibot: shut up |
| 01:31.41 | ibot | yes, Master sjansen |
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| 01:32.02 | maquis | hey! |
| 01:32.06 | maquis | who changed that? |
| 01:32.23 | maquis | ~onjoin maquis <action> bows before maquis' great power |
| 01:32.24 | ibot | maquis: ok |
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| 01:32.33 | maquis | much better |
| 01:35.28 | levi | maquis: Delusions of grandeur, eh? |
| 01:35.39 | maquis | -lart levi |
| 01:36.17 | maquis | http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000880073478/ <-- wow |
| 01:36.18 | brac | [Scanner music - hack a day - www.hackaday.com _] |
| 01:36.38 | maquis | they have a scanner playing fur elise |
| 01:39.12 | findlay | Für Elise is a bagatelle |
| 01:40.55 | sjansen | Not bad, but I'll be really impressed when then get house plants to whistle freira jaca. |
| 01:41.27 | findlay | they have house plants that work like speakers |
| 01:41.45 | findlay | you have to wire them up to your stereo though |
| 01:41.59 | Tene | "they" |
| 01:44.48 | pmcnabb | sjansen, you should also invest in a "sodium supplement" when you figure that out... one infomercial would make you millions |
| 02:15.22 | findlay | ~lart all those people who can think of nothing better to do on a January Sunday afternoon than stare compuslively at irc |
| 02:20.41 | sjansen | Actually, I think findlay's problem is that they are home... |
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| 02:35.36 | TimRiker | anyone using usdtv? I'm wondering if they support hdtv or just regular. thier site is useless. "wireless television" well, duh. |
| 02:36.31 | findlay | what is it? |
| 02:36.42 | TimRiker | http://www.hardwaregeeks.com/comments.php?id=1884&catid=1 claims it's uhf/vhf antennas. |
| 02:36.44 | brac | [HardwareGeeks.com - USDTV to Launch Low-Cost Wireless TV Service] |
| 02:37.04 | TimRiker | subscription digital broadcast television. |
| 02:37.26 | TimRiker | http://www.usdtv.com/ |
| 02:37.27 | brac | [Menu System] |
| 02:37.59 | TimRiker | http://66.239.34.145/SLC_OFF.php |
| 02:38.00 | brac | [Menu System] |
| 02:38.10 | TimRiker | nice titles. not. |
| 02:38.16 | findlay | back when Brandon Beattie did a mythtv presentation at sllug it seemed like with any old capture card you could get analog or digital channels |
| 02:39.00 | TimRiker | this is not any boardcast signal. seems that it requires a box, but can use a normal uhf/vhf antenna. |
| 02:39.06 | TimRiker | sounds odd to me. |
| 02:39.35 | TimRiker | I don't know what frequency they would be able to license and how far it would travel. |
| 02:39.39 | findlay | if it's a plain old antenna it should work fine(?) but if it does something fancy with the signal, I would be skeptical unless they are explicit |
| 02:40.29 | TimRiker | as it requires a "box" that you can buy at walmart, I think it's unlikely that a normal capture card would work. |
| 02:40.50 | TimRiker | likely the "box" outputs one channel to video/audio outputs. |
| 02:41.45 | TimRiker | so I'm guessing you'd need a separate box for each set in the house or re-broadcast the signal to an alternate channel, but then all sets would watch one channel. |
| 02:42.01 | TimRiker | but I have no idea for sure. I was hoping someone had tried it. |
| 02:42.24 | findlay | looks like they have hdtv |
| 02:42.31 | findlay | http://www.usdtv.com/why_usdtv.php |
| 02:42.31 | brac | [Why USDTV?] |
| 02:43.24 | findlay | TimRiker: why not you? Take one for the community and be the first. (-: |
| 02:43.38 | TimRiker | hmm. so at least it's hdtv capable. I wonder if they offer any channels that are not just normal broadcast hdtv. |
| 02:44.00 | TimRiker | who has hdtv now? can anyone comment on the channel lineup? |
| 02:44.14 | TimRiker | I wonder if thier "box" is just an hdtv tuner. |
| 02:44.17 | findlay | what about all those channel logos at the bottom? |
| 02:44.40 | findlay | I don't think any of them are broadcast |
| 02:44.49 | TimRiker | http://66.239.34.145/SLC_OFF.php has the lineup. |
| 02:44.51 | brac | [Menu System] |
| 02:44.59 | TimRiker | many of those are boardcast. |
| 02:45.13 | findlay | don't know |
| 02:45.22 | TimRiker | the 99.* might be the non-broadcast ones. |
| 02:45.40 | findlay | the best person to ask would be Brandon Beattie |
| 02:45.45 | findlay | or maybe Mecworks |
| 02:47.04 | findlay | TimRiker: yeah the rest all look like public TV |
| 02:47.30 | findlay | stuff that's broadcast gratis in each station's bandwidth allocation |
| 02:48.22 | TimRiker | http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/programming/broadcast-market.php?dma_name%5B%5D=Salt+Lake+City |
| 02:51.05 | TimRiker | well, if the box is a cheap htdv tuner plus the 99.* channels for $19.95/month ... hmm ... I wonder what happens when you cancel the subscription. |
| 02:51.35 | TimRiker | well, thx for the thoughts. I'm off to put the kids to bed. |
| 02:52.11 | findlay | at least you have a life (: |
| 02:52.28 | findlay | later |
| 03:28.14 | hans | 2 out of 3 people called today refused to speak in church next sunday |
| 03:28.34 | Tene | nifty |
| 03:28.41 | sjansen | ~pity hans |
| 03:28.43 | ibot | I pity da fool hans! |
| 03:29.06 | hans | well I don't much care, just find it interesting. I ought to keep stats |
| 03:29.17 | hans | obviously this week (being my first) could be a fluke |
| 03:29.30 | hans | I just call them, I don't have to worry about who else to ask |
| 03:30.01 | maquis | hans: counselor in bishopric? or does someone else do that in some wards? |
| 03:30.08 | maquis | and yes, stats would be really interesting |
| 03:30.09 | hans | exec sec |
| 03:30.12 | maquis | ah |
| 03:30.21 | maquis | where they youth speakers? |
| 03:31.26 | sjansen | Could be your approach. It bugs me when people aren't assertive enough extending callings. You've been selected to give a talk next Sunday. Will you be able to do it? (Or "Do you accept?" if you're feeling bold enough.) |
| 03:32.26 | maquis | also, was this a "no, i won't speak" or a "i can't speak this week" (implying that they'd be willing another week) |
| 03:32.57 | hans | one was an indefinite delay due to "health" |
| 03:32.57 | maquis | sjansen: that's a good point as well... |
| 03:33.04 | hans | the other was "I don't do that" |
| 03:33.58 | maquis | hans: i think you need 4 columns: yes, no, can't that day, isyouth? |
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| 03:34.03 | hans | I think the youth cycle through every couple of months. In fact, I think I've seen almost every youth in this ward speak already |
| 03:34.12 | maquis | i'd be interested in seeing how it comes out |
| 03:35.04 | maquis | so far, you have 1 in each of the 3 columns, it sounds like... |
| 03:35.05 | maquis | :) |
| 03:35.14 | maquis | (well.. aside from youth...) |
| 03:35.45 | emcnabb | did I miss anything exciting this week on #utah? |
| 03:36.05 | hans | sjansen wrote a poem |
| 03:36.08 | hans | or maybe that was a dream |
| 03:36.20 | hans | I just read State of Fear yesterday. good book |
| 03:36.29 | sjansen | I think that I shall never see, a poem as lovely as emcnabb being larted. |
| 03:37.07 | sjansen | Roses are red, violets are blue, hans is a freak, and ibot hates you. |
| 03:38.26 | emcnabb | wow |
| 03:38.29 | emcnabb | good job |
| 03:39.23 | sjansen | Do not go softly into that night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light! (And throw maquis from the train, while you're at it, if it wouldn't be too much bother. Thanks.) |
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| 03:40.33 | emcnabb | http://evan.mcnabbs.org/tmp/puppy-week1/img_0086.jpg |
| 03:40.39 | emcnabb | The newest addition to the family |
| 03:41.37 | Newsome | awwww. He's got your eyes... |
| 03:42.14 | emcnabb | haha |
| 03:42.46 | emcnabb | it's an all black, miniature dachshund |
| 03:43.31 | emcnabb | and her name is... Tuxie |
| 03:43.44 | emcnabb | that was chosen by Lisa, with no imput from me |
| 03:44.57 | emcnabb | she's all black like a tuxedo, and because Tux is cool |
| 03:48.18 | maquis | emcnabb: cute |
| 03:48.28 | maquis | sjansen: why do you want me thrown from a train? |
| 03:48.45 | maquis | emcnabb: do you like ibot's new onjoin feature? |
| 03:50.04 | emcnabb | do I deserve to be larted that badly? :-) |
| 03:50.10 | maquis | :) |
| 03:56.19 | maquis | QBFreak: don't mind them... they're just invading... |
| 03:56.52 | QBFreak | so I see |
| 03:57.06 | Newsome | we have a plethora |
| 03:57.20 | emcnabb | we're looking for world domination, no less. |
| 03:57.26 | hans | we fugals take over by stealth |
| 03:57.34 | maquis | :) |
| 03:58.09 | emcnabb | hans, maybe the Fugals and McNabbs should join forces |
| 03:58.18 | emcnabb | we would have 6 #utah'ers |
| 03:58.34 | hans | we pwn #utah |
| 03:58.55 | emcnabb | all your nicks are belong to us |
| 03:59.08 | QBFreak | <junk as in hoaxes and the like? |
| 03:59.10 | QBFreak | wrong window :) |
| 03:59.18 | hans | yeah, just like that |
| 03:59.59 | QBFreak | heh, anything with a single character in front like that was probably a mis-window, with stuff on two monitors I sometimes forget I can't mentally change window focus |
| 04:02.06 | QBFreak | how awesome would that be |
| 04:02.38 | QBFreak | maybe a camera to track eye movement, it would also need to track your heads position in relation to the monitor |
| 04:02.48 | QBFreak | and much calibration I suspect |
| 04:02.54 | maquis | :) |
| 04:03.14 | maquis | i've always wanted something that could tab-complete whatever word i happen to be thinking |
| 04:03.29 | QBFreak | that could be nifty too |
| 04:04.20 | QBFreak | although I suspect I'd be quite happy if I could address it like the computers on startrek and make it turn my lights on and off |
| 04:04.31 | sjansen | My dreams are more simple. I just want a 30" Dell LCD monitor. |
| 04:04.46 | QBFreak | psh |
| 04:05.05 | QBFreak | I'd settle for a pair of decent 19" LCDs :) |
| 04:05.06 | hans | me, I just can't wait for my measly 512MB of RAM to show up tomorrow |
| 04:05.55 | QBFreak | I should be working on a parser |
| 04:06.04 | QBFreak | I think I coded myself out this week |
| 04:09.38 | QBFreak | ick |
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| 04:10.13 | sjansen | I'm 95% certain the smell is coming from the apartment below me. I've sealed most paths the air could be travelling, but there's one behind the water heater I just can't reach. |
| 04:10.28 | Tene | so go kill the smoker. |
| 04:10.49 | QBFreak | or get that nice inflating foam sealant stuff and a long straw |
| 04:10.52 | Tene | don't treat the symptoms, treat the disease. |
| 04:11.36 | sjansen | QBFreak: The inflating foam sealant is what I used for some of it, but I don't want to use it next to the water heater (flammable) even if I could reach it. |
| 04:12.10 | QBFreak | ah yes good point |
| 04:12.36 | QBFreak | although explosions can be cool |
| 04:13.13 | amcnabb_ | Just so everyone knows, reinstalling seems to have fixed the problem. |
| 04:14.25 | amcnabb_ | :) |
| 04:14.33 | amcnabb_ | You got online right after I explained the problem. |
| 04:16.55 | hans | sjansen: can't you find some heavier than air smelly stuff that you can put by the heater? |
| 04:16.58 | hans | at least fight back |
| 04:17.47 | sjansen | Good idea oh hans! |
| 04:18.24 | hans | is the stuff always flammable, or only when being applied? |
| 04:18.39 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 04:18.47 | emcnabb | ibot, you suck |
| 04:18.49 | emcnabb | ~lart sjansen |
| 04:19.01 | maquis | emcnabb: use brac |
| 04:19.04 | maquis | -lart sjansen |
| 04:19.08 | emcnabb | -lart sjansen |
| 04:19.20 | emcnabb | and that's better ;-) |
| 04:19.23 | emcnabb | -lart sjansen |
| 04:19.30 | emcnabb | oh yeah! |
| 04:19.32 | sjansen | hans: Probably always, but when being applied it releases flammable gas and I don't to fiddle with the pilot light. |
| 04:19.33 | emcnabb | that's what I was looking for |
| 04:22.49 | pmcnabb | emcnabb, how much bigger will the puppy get? |
| 04:23.52 | pmcnabb | sjansen, you should -lart emcnabb's puppy |
| 04:24.30 | maquis | -lart pmcnabb |
| 04:24.36 | sjansen | ~lart pmcnabb for suggesting violence against a puppy |
| 04:24.55 | pmcnabb | ugh, i've seen the Dr. Dre one like 3 times today |
| 04:24.59 | sjansen | ~crush maquis |
| 04:25.00 | ibot | ACTION crushes maquis with a full height scsi disk |
| 04:25.13 | maquis | ~hammerthrow sja |
| 04:25.14 | ibot | ACTION throws a huge hammer across the room into sja/'s head |
| 04:25.16 | maquis | hey |
| 04:25.16 | QBFreak | ack, those are nasties (full height scsi disks) |
| 04:25.19 | TimRiker | ~insult brac |
| 04:25.25 | maquis | ~hammerthrow sjansen |
| 04:25.26 | ibot | ACTION throws a huge hammer across the room into sjansen/'s head |
| 04:25.35 | pmcnabb | what a mess... |
| 04:26.00 | maquis | ~blame pmcnabb |
| 04:26.01 | ibot | ACTION blames pmcnabb for all the evil in the world |
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| 04:26.24 | QBFreak | hmm |
| 04:26.42 | hans | -insult ibot |
| 04:26.42 | brac | ibot is a bootless petrification of elf-skinned toxic waste |
| 04:26.50 | sjansen | ~bzfrag TimRiker |
| 04:26.51 | ibot | ACTION makes TimRiker feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 04:27.01 | TimRiker | ~bzfrag sjansen |
| 04:27.02 | ibot | ACTION skewers sjansen with a super bullet |
| 04:27.10 | sjansen | ~travolta TimRiker |
| 04:27.11 | ibot | ACTION replaces TimRiker with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 04:27.21 | TimRiker | ~fishslap sjansen |
| 04:27.22 | ibot | ACTION slaps sjansen up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 04:27.28 | maquis | QBFreak: the bots have been put into an infinite loop before... |
| 04:27.34 | sjansen | ~whaleslap TimRiker |
| 04:27.35 | ibot | I'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap TimRiker over the head with it..... |
| 04:27.35 | QBFreak | I can imagine |
| 04:27.38 | QBFreak | you'd want a counter on each :) |
| 04:27.45 | TimRiker | I think I have ibot set to ignore brac |
| 04:27.52 | TimRiker | ~ignore |
| 04:27.52 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.52 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.52 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.52 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.53 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.53 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.53 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.53 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.54 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.54 | ibot | END of ignore. |
| 04:28.06 | TimRiker | nope. not at present. |
| 04:28.20 | maquis | goozbach: why you drilling your eyes out? |
| 04:28.22 | emcnabb | pmcnabb, Tuxie will probably get to be 8 - 9 lbs, and maybe 14 inches long |
| 04:28.26 | maquis | and are you using a power-drill? |
| 04:28.35 | pmcnabb | emcnabb, that's small |
| 04:29.11 | QBFreak | my first attempt at a MARE bot, written in VB, it waved to whoever waved first |
| 04:29.11 | QBFreak | and it was all downhill from there |
| 04:29.11 | emcnabb | most breeders in Utah were asking for $600 - $1000 for the dog we wanted |
| 04:29.11 | QBFreak | NightMAREbot waves to NightMAREbot waves to NightMAREbot :) |
| 04:29.11 | emcnabb | in Georgia it was $275 |
| 04:29.38 | QBFreak | maquis: one would hope so, power tools make it so much easier |
| 04:29.53 | maquis | QBFreak: that's what i thought too... |
| 04:29.55 | maquis | but... |
| 04:29.55 | pmcnabb | emcnabb, do they have brides in georgia for amcnabb for $275? |
| 04:30.00 | maquis | with goo, you never know |
| 04:30.12 | pmcnabb | maybe you should bring him next time |
| 04:30.38 | QBFreak | sjansen: we got a boxer that way, the most mild mannered dog there, turned out to be a trouble maker, but loveable all the same |
| 04:30.38 | emcnabb | not even the Ukranian mail order brides are that cheap |
| 04:31.46 | goozbach | so I just got a 50" HDTv |
| 04:31.54 | emcnabb | goozbach, awesome |
| 04:31.55 | QBFreak | from the shelter? |
| 04:32.07 | goozbach | and my roommate put on some stupid high-school drama movie |
| 04:32.19 | maquis | QBFreak: i was thinking that too..... |
| 04:32.21 | TimRiker | emcnabb: well, the shipping would be more from the Ukraine, no? ;-) |
| 04:32.35 | emcnabb | TimRiker, haha |
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| 04:33.10 | pmcnabb | he's probably not paying attention |
| 04:33.22 | emcnabb | I met someone who ordered a bride from Russia |
| 04:33.31 | maquis | really? |
| 04:33.44 | emcnabb | he went there, picked her up, married her there, and they moved back to the US |
| 04:33.57 | goozbach | cool, url? |
| 04:34.05 | goozbach | :) |
| 04:34.31 | emcnabb | not sure what ever happened to them |
| 04:35.03 | sjansen | goozbach: what movie? |
| 04:35.28 | QBFreak | this is sad, I see TimRiker and think of William Riker |
| 04:35.49 | hans | that's the thing stopping the mcnabbs and the fugals from joining forces |
| 04:35.51 | maquis | QBFreak: i did too for a while... i've gotten over it now |
| 04:35.56 | hans | the mcnabbs aren't proper trekkers |
| 04:36.09 | QBFreak | heh |
| 04:36.11 | pmcnabb | i see "mcnabb" and think of mama mcnabb's chunky campbell soup |
| 04:36.21 | emcnabb | Star Trek sucks! |
| 04:36.31 | emcnabb | you're all a bunch of losers! |
| 04:36.35 | pmcnabb | or donovan mcnabb getting injured tackling his interceptor |
| 04:36.36 | QBFreak | I imagine I'll survive, I had to get used to a player on a MUD who went by my first name, that was disconcerting at first |
| 04:36.37 | maquis | QBFreak: at least he's closer to tom riker than to will riker... |
| 04:37.07 | QBFreak | its been so long that I can't say I recall who that is |
| 04:37.34 | QBFreak | emcnabb: you've helped my self esteem greatly |
| 04:37.42 | pmcnabb | emcnabb, way to blow it for us |
| 04:37.45 | maquis | emcnabb: the maquis are always looking for allies... :) |
| 04:37.55 | emcnabb | QBFreak, how's that? |
| 04:38.02 | QBFreak | heh, never mind |
| 04:38.04 | sjansen | Star Trek fans are weenies! Star Wars fans are freaks! Ringers rule! |
| 04:38.09 | hans | QBFreak: the worst is meeting people who go by hans but pronounced wrong |
| 04:38.32 | QBFreak | thats gotta be annoying |
| 04:38.52 | QBFreak | most people simply forget mine, and I can deal with that fine, I just tell them I don't have one :) |
| 04:38.59 | emcnabb | sjansen: we offically invite you into the McNabb Star Trek Haters Club |
| 04:39.32 | pmcnabb | sjansen: please take this complimentary star trek whacking stick |
| 04:39.50 | sjansen | Oh, I don't hate Star Trek. I just think trekkies are weenies. |
| 04:40.03 | emcnabb | we meet the first and third Tuesdays on #startrekhaters |
| 04:40.56 | pmcnabb | rumor has it emcnabb is planning on taking star trek collectibles out into the desert with friends who own guns and... |
| 04:41.06 | mheath | I'll give my two cents on Star Trek - the old ones are overdone and silly, the newer ones are tolerable but it's rediculous that theres such a cult following |
| 04:41.11 | emcnabb | sjansen just attended a weekend party on #startrekhaters |
| 04:41.45 | findlay | whatever |
| 04:41.48 | findlay | lamers |
| 04:42.16 | maquis | :) |
| 04:42.42 | findlay | good night ibot |
| 04:43.27 | mheath | Wow, I hate the news media |
| 04:44.27 | mheath | After participating in an organized field operation, knowing what goes into it, and conducting a comprehensive AAR......I see news articles like "Black Hawk down in Iraq, all killed"...I can read between the lines and see that they left a lot of stuff out |
| 04:45.58 | sjansen | Of course. As a rule, the media is never right. Sometimes they find the ball park, but they're always wrong. |
| 04:46.07 | goozbach | "Drive me crazy" |
| 04:46.10 | goozbach | stupido |
| 04:46.26 | mheath | It annoys me that they'd reduce something to the point of "The military also announced the deaths of five U.S. Marines in three different Iraqi towns Saturday and Sunday." |
| 04:46.27 | emcnabb | ugh |
| 04:46.36 | emcnabb | I really need to get the house cleaned |
| 04:46.53 | mheath | Doesn't tell you who the people are, what they did....What their operation was, or what it involved.....how they died, or who killed them. |
| 04:47.04 | QBFreak | at the risk of starting an argument, from what I've read things are going better there than the media portrays it |
| 04:47.14 | sjansen | goozbach: Never heard of it. |
| 04:48.11 | QBFreak | whoo, I killed the channel, I'm good at this :) |
| 04:48.25 | mheath | QBFreak: Of course |
| 04:48.41 | mheath | The media also portrays an increased crime rate, when the crime rate has dropped over the last few years... |
| 04:48.52 | mheath | They always focus on the bad things. |
| 04:49.01 | maquis | ~wimp goozbach |
| 04:49.11 | emcnabb | goozbach, sjansen: Dax and I met up for a few minutes at Disney World; it was kind of cool |
| 04:49.28 | sjansen | ~lart emcnabb |
| 04:49.38 | emcnabb | the whole week we IM'ed back and forth about different rides / attractions and how they were |
| 04:49.58 | sjansen | emcnabb: Derek, Bryan and I were discussing on Friday what your punishment should be. |
| 04:49.59 | emcnabb | (actually text messaged, not IM) |
| 04:50.06 | emcnabb | uh oh |
| 04:50.21 | emcnabb | my punishment was 4 days of Disney World! |
| 04:50.22 | hans | -lart emcnabb |
| 04:50.27 | emcnabb | what more could happen to me! |
| 04:50.52 | sjansen | I suggested that you should have to clean the refrigerator with your tongue. Bryan wasn't sure he liked that idea, but I've been working on him and he seems to be coming around. |
| 04:50.56 | emcnabb | another week in Disney World?!?! |
| 04:51.53 | emcnabb | 70 degree weather all week long was nice though |
| 04:52.35 | maquis | ~freeze Mecworks |
| 04:52.36 | maquis | er |
| 04:52.41 | maquis | sorry Mecworks |
| 04:52.48 | maquis | -freeze emcnabb |
| 04:54.10 | sjansen | emcnabb: No. You are being sent to teach a farmer's co-op in North Dakota. They don't have cell coverage or Internet access. They also don't have enough computers for all of the students. (Okay, any of them.) You will instead be using etch-a-sketches. You will be sleeping in a chicken coop. |
| 04:55.27 | sjansen | They've contracted for the 120, 250, 275 and 510. You will not be returning until the month is over. |
| 04:56.54 | mheath | Argh, these people suck at maintaining their website |
| 04:57.05 | mheath | Broken links, anyone? |
| 04:57.21 | mheath | internal links, too |
| 04:57.34 | mheath | They'll update a page and add links, and not notice that the links were never valid. |
| 04:57.49 | emcnabb | sjansen, you have sick mind! |
| 04:57.57 | QBFreak | mheath: ick |
| 04:59.53 | mheath | http://www.navalseacadetstucson.com/fb2.jpg <--That's me, crouched down on the ground, working on the firepit |
| 05:00.05 | mheath | The only one working, I might add. |
| 05:00.13 | mheath | The rest seemed to be waiting for a fire =P |
| 05:00.16 | QBFreak | I almost said that when you posted it earlier :) |
| 05:01.08 | mheath | That was day one, I think |
| 05:01.12 | mheath | No |
| 05:01.23 | pmcnabb | Anyone know how (in an OS X dual-monitor configuration) to tell an app which screen to run "fullscreen" on? |
| 05:01.34 | QBFreak | hmm |
| 05:01.36 | mheath | I was digging the firepit...It was so cold there at night, the ground never fully thawed out during the day. Too hard and icey to dig |
| 05:01.43 | QBFreak | in windows it depends on which screen you closed it on |
| 05:01.48 | mheath | We had to have a fire for a while, before the ground was softened enough to dig. |
| 05:01.53 | QBFreak | crazy |
| 05:02.54 | pmcnabb | QBFreak, "closed it on"? |
| 05:03.17 | QBFreak | heh sorry |
| 05:03.24 | QBFreak | whichever display it was last on when you closed it |
| 05:03.30 | QBFreak | but thats Windows, dunno about OSX |
| 05:03.59 | pmcnabb | for example, if mplayer is running and i switch to fullscreen, it always shows it on my main screen |
| 05:04.41 | QBFreak | no idea really, the last Mac OS I used was pretty old, and I hardly used it :) |
| 05:21.37 | amcnabb_ | pmcnabb, I don't know either. |
| 05:21.53 | amcnabb_ | On Linux there's often a -xinerama option, but that's only for X. |
| 05:23.20 | mheath | Wow |
| 05:23.31 | mheath | I did an internship at a computer sales, repair and service place |
| 05:23.50 | mheath | They had a couple of locations, but it was kinda a junky place. Fair amount of business, but nothing great... |
| 05:24.34 | mheath | Apparently they've been booming lately. New (very nice) website (though they're apparently in the middle of filling it with content), 4 locations now with 2 more coming.... |
| 05:29.38 | pmcnabb | mheath: that's interesting... i've been getting a lot more calls to fix computers, too |
| 05:29.54 | pmcnabb | unfortunately i don't have one of the "no, i will not fix your computer" t-shirts yet |
| 05:31.09 | mheath | They've got an amazing warranty, too |
| 05:31.32 | mheath | 4 years parts and service, free with any system. |
| 05:32.48 | pmcnabb | Well, school starts tomorrow... night all |
| 05:32.56 | mheath | If I end up buying a computer soon (which I probably will, after a few paychecks), I'm definately going with them |
| 05:33.11 | mheath | I like the knowledge that if anything breaks for 4 years to come, they'll replace it :) |
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| 05:44.12 | QBFreak | yeah, thats nice |
| 05:44.40 | QBFreak | had to replace power supply, motherboard, and half the RAM |
| 05:44.49 | QBFreak | I need to tell him to invest in a UPS |
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| 06:48.32 | Hhhhh | does anybody have a laptop for sale? |
| 06:52.31 | QBFreak | what sort of speed and condition? :) |
| 06:54.26 | Hhhhh | more like a P3 500Mhz |
| 06:54.38 | QBFreak | I wish :( |
| 06:54.49 | QBFreak | my best laptop is a 166 with MMX |
| 06:55.15 | QBFreak | but it suffices when visiting family and needing email |
| 06:55.41 | QBFreak | l |
| 06:55.45 | QBFreak | mis-window |
| 07:02.07 | QBFreak | ~order foo for qbfreak |
| 07:02.16 | QBFreak | darn *finds another bot* |
| 07:52.27 | QBFreak | -help |
| 07:52.28 | brac | help topics: core, auth, keywords [30 plugins: 8ball, autoop, autorejoin, cal, dice, dns, excuse, fortune, freshmeat, host, insult|msginsult, karmastats|karma, lart, math, nickserv, opme, quotes, remind, roshambo, rot13, roulette, rps, search, seen, slashdot, spell, translate, urls, weather, wserver] (help <topic> for more info) |
| 07:53.04 | QBFreak | hmm *makes mental notes* |
| 07:53.08 | QBFreak | anyway, goonight all |
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| 14:51.52 | maquis | ~wake up |
| 14:51.54 | ibot | up: GOOD MORNING!!! |
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| 15:01.30 | maquis | Newsome: 'mornin' |
| 15:01.49 | Newsome | hi |
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| 15:07.12 | hans | sweet |
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| 15:37.54 | hans | 好 means good, or fine. |
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| 16:08.11 | hans | I just know I'm going to miss all this swapping. |
| 16:08.30 | levi | hans: What, did you actually buy more ram? |
| 16:08.54 | hans | should arrive today |
| 16:09.02 | levi | Wow. I'm shocked! |
| 16:09.03 | hans | got it with my birthday/christmas cash |
| 16:09.15 | levi | I bought a 19" LCD monitor, which arrived on Friday. |
| 16:09.17 | hans | so don't be too shocked. |
| 16:09.45 | levi | It allowed me to get rid of my monster 19" CRT. Gave it to my father-in-law. |
| 16:09.51 | hans | I'm crossing my fingers that it will work. if I paid apple's prices for apple ram I'd have probably only been able to get 128 or something |
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| 16:10.37 | levi | Mine's non-Apple and works fine. |
| 16:11.37 | hans | I think with the help of crucial's website (still too expensive, but good specs) I was able to get the right 512 stick from newegg, and at least one comment said it works in his apple laptop |
| 16:11.44 | hans | so I think it's very likely it will work |
| 16:12.07 | levi | Yeah, it's very likely. |
| 16:13.25 | levi | I need some more RAM for my games machine now, too. And a faster hard drive. |
| 16:13.33 | levi | Now that we're actually using it to play games. |
| 16:13.52 | levi | (My wife got The Sims Complete Collection for Christmas, and we've been playing it together) |
| 16:14.33 | hans | fun. my christmas gaming was mostly wesnoth |
| 16:15.23 | levi | When I get a chance to (between Sims games) I play a bit of Neverwinter Nights, which I put down for a year or so after finishing the first chapter. |
| 16:16.16 | levi | I bought one of the expansions to it, though, so I figured I ought to finish the first campaign before installing it. |
| 16:18.14 | levi | hans: You should get Neverwinter Nights. I believe you can play it in Linux. |
| 16:18.18 | tensai | levi: I made a beurre blanc last night. put it on some chicken cordon bleu. most delicious thing I've had in a long time. |
| 16:18.27 | levi | tensai: Mmmmm. :) |
| 16:18.34 | tensai | yeah, NWN works in Linux |
| 16:19.09 | levi | tensai: I had Navajo Tacos with a really yummy southern feather roll recipe for the fried dough. |
| 16:19.19 | levi | tensai: The stuff just melts in your mouth. |
| 16:19.29 | tensai | levi: yum |
| 16:20.16 | levi | But that got me thinking about why we call fried dough with honey butter 'scones'. They're obviously not what the English consider scones. |
| 16:20.42 | hans | defnintely not. although those aren't bad either. |
| 16:21.03 | levi | On the east coast, no one has heard of fried dough being called scones. |
| 16:21.25 | tensai | that explains that weird scones recipe in our better homes & gardens book |
| 16:22.11 | levi | I'm not sure that the fried dough scones exist outside of Utah and Mormon transplants, either. |
| 16:22.18 | hans | i'm not sure either |
| 16:23.34 | Jayce^ | levi, they do... |
| 16:23.44 | levi | Jayce^: Where? |
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| 16:23.51 | Jayce^ | in WA, it was pretty big among non mormon transplants that I knew |
| 16:24.12 | Jayce^ | Native american, and philipino's largely.. |
| 16:26.45 | levi | Hmm. Seems like they're often called 'Utah Scones' on the web. |
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| 16:27.03 | brac | What a crazy fool! Did you mean |help stats? |
| 16:27.52 | Jayce^ | levi, they are more known here, but I've always known them as a 'western' thing.. |
| 16:28.15 | Jayce^ | I had a 'cultural cuisine' class where the teacher described them as such (pioneer meets native american) |
| 16:28.41 | tensai | where's a food anthropologist when you need one? |
| 16:28.53 | Jayce^ | after we had a fit when we had to make "real" scones.. |
| 16:30.48 | levi | This thread seems to suggest it was unique to Utah at some point: http://www.cheftalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12068 |
| 16:30.50 | Jayce^ | tensai, you know that Shirley O. Corriher (the food anthropologist on GE) has her own book? |
| 16:31.06 | levi | Shirley Corriher's book is wonderful. :) |
| 16:31.19 | Jayce^ | got it right here actually :) |
| 16:31.24 | Jayce^ | excellent book |
| 16:32.30 | tensai | they don't have it at my library :( |
| 16:32.47 | Jayce^ | tensai, just go get it, you'll want it after you try it |
| 16:32.58 | Jayce^ | some really interesting science tricks in doing stuff |
| 16:34.10 | Jayce^ | http://www.kitchensecretsrevealed.com/ |
| 16:34.11 | brac | [Homepage] |
| 16:35.19 | hans | some nuts are trying to cross america in a segway |
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| 16:37.30 | hans | lol. For the most part, native Utahns remain unaware that their scones are not the same as other scones. |
| 16:37.45 | tensai | that "podcast" isn't very podcasty |
| 16:37.56 | Jayce^ | no, 'tisnt |
| 16:39.00 | hans | having grown up in a very navajo area, and being a transplant utahn, I can testify that utah scones and navajo frybread are not the same thing |
| 16:39.10 | hans | any more than say ciabatta and french bread are |
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| 16:41.53 | levi | Mmmm, ciabatta. |
| 16:42.32 | levi | I found a linguist mailing list where a guy named Kirk Belnap from BYU posted a survey about Utah scones. |
| 16:43.25 | sjansen | So I've finally crossed a threshold. In addition to my list of things I hate about SUSE, I've started a list of things I like. |
| 16:44.12 | tensai | 1. he won't stop complaining about SUSE |
| 16:46.08 | sjansen | 2. I'm jealous of how much better he looks than me. |
| 16:49.30 | hans | suse looks better than you? |
| 16:49.45 | hans | that little chameleon lizard thing? |
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| 16:59.15 | sjansen | s/jsmith/TimRiker/ |
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| 16:59.23 | sjansen | I rest my case. |
| 16:59.42 | Uncle_Jesse | why does my default onjoin message now say "Everybody"? |
| 17:00.00 | vontrapp | argh, gstreamer keeps segfaulting on me |
| 17:00.10 | sjansen | Because somebody apparently thought it would be a good idea. |
| 17:00.17 | hans | lol |
| 17:00.58 | tensai | ~onjoin -Uncle_Jesse |
| 17:00.58 | ibot | ok, tensai |
| 17:01.09 | tensai | Uncle_Jesse: there. now it doesn't |
| 17:01.18 | vontrapp | ~help onjoin |
| 17:01.32 | jsmith | ~onjoin -jsmith |
| 17:01.32 | ibot | jsmith: ok |
| 17:01.52 | vontrapp | ~onjoin -Uncle_Jesse Everybody! Everybody! |
| 17:01.52 | ibot | ok, vontrapp |
| 17:01.53 | Uncle_Jesse | tensai: thanks |
| 17:02.01 | Uncle_Jesse | vontrapp: thanks |
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| 17:02.17 | TimRiker | sjansen: don't like the sedbot feature? |
| 17:02.27 | TimRiker | s/sedbot/sed/ |
| 17:03.29 | TimRiker | tensai: onjoin really needs a who field so when you check it, it shows who set it and when. |
| 17:03.30 | sjansen | It doesn't work with /me and it always assumes I'm referring to my own comment. |
| 17:04.03 | TimRiker | sjansen: no easy way to lookup anyone's comment in the channel. =( |
| 17:04.28 | TimRiker | and currently we don't track last /me's so we can't edit them. that might change. |
| 17:04.31 | vontrapp | go back to the first occurrence of the target word? |
| 17:05.15 | sjansen | s/first/more recent/ ; s/[?]/./ |
| 17:05.31 | TimRiker | vontrapp: back ... where? it knows what you last said. getting last info for a channel is not so easy. |
| 17:05.32 | sjansen | There's another reason I don't like it. |
| 17:05.51 | TimRiker | sjansen: patches welcome. ;-) |
| 17:06.29 | sjansen | My patch would just remove the functionality. Doubt you'd be inclined to accept it. |
| 17:07.20 | sjansen | I don't like bots that pretend to be smarter than they are. There should be one bot per channel. I should remember URLs, provide logging, have a giant collection of larts, and keep its mouth shut unless spoken to. |
| 17:07.25 | sjansen | But that's just me. |
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| 17:11.00 | jsmith | sjansen: That way, people like me who misspell a lot can still use it? |
| 17:12.12 | TimRiker | ~convert 23039 seconds to hours |
| 17:12.20 | TimRiker | hmm |
| 17:12.33 | TimRiker | jsmith: it is. |
| 17:12.44 | TimRiker | ~chanset #utah sed 0 |
| 17:12.45 | ibot | Setting sed for #utah to '0'. |
| 17:12.49 | jsmith | Per-person, or per channel? |
| 17:12.53 | TimRiker | s/foo/bar/ |
| 17:13.02 | jsmith | I was thinking a per-person setting... |
| 17:13.22 | TimRiker | /ignote ibot <- there's your per-person version. |
| 17:13.33 | TimRiker | s/ignote/ignore/ =( |
| 17:13.34 | jsmith | Works for me... what about sjansen? |
| 17:13.55 | Jayce^ | jsmith, yeah, everybody /ignores him |
| 17:14.01 | TimRiker | need to convert larts to factoids so folks can add more. |
| 17:14.14 | jsmith | Jayce^: I see... |
| 17:14.18 | TimRiker | ~chanset #utah -sed |
| 17:14.18 | ibot | Unsetting sed for #utah; was '0'. |
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| 17:26.48 | SpecialZ | ~lart maquis |
| 17:43.54 | tensai | TimRiker: ~onjoininfo vs ~onjoin +info timriker. what do you think for a syntax? |
| 17:44.48 | TimRiker | tensai: I'd just show it all in ~onjoin timriker |
| 17:45.14 | TimRiker | ~onjoin timriker |
| 17:45.14 | ibot | <action> runs and hides from his master, TimRiker |
| 17:46.12 | TimRiker | something like: onjon for timriker set by <foo> on <date>: <action> runs and hides from his master |
| 17:46.20 | TimRiker | s/onjon/onjoin/ |
| 17:54.19 | tensai | TimRiker: ah, that's even better. knew there was a reason to ask you. ;) |
| 18:11.27 | sjansen | Wow, that was an obscure bug. Perl appears to match non-breaking spaces with \s under some conditions but not others. |
| 18:13.45 | Jayce^ | sjansen, you playing with /m or /s ? |
| 18:15.48 | sjansen | push (@words, ($str =~ /\S+|\s+/g)); |
| 18:16.29 | sjansen | if ($word =~ /^\s/) # throw away whitespace token |
| 18:16.49 | sjansen | Actually, I guess it could be that both \s and \S match unicode non-breaking spaces. |
| 18:17.09 | Jayce^ | if your locality is set, then yeah |
| 18:19.45 | goozbach | go /me |
| 18:41.58 | maquis | goozbach: what was the bug? was it a roach? |
| 18:43.20 | goozbach | 11:11 < sjansen> Wow, that was an obscure bug. Perl appears to match non-breaking spaces with \s under some conditions but not others. |
| 18:43.38 | maquis | ah |
| 18:55.34 | levi | maquis: You ready to start classes? |
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| 19:16.37 | harleypig | anyone familiar with poptop? |
| 19:18.11 | tensai | thankfully no. I use openvpn. |
| 19:18.50 | harleypig | tensai: for connecting to a company network? |
| 19:19.06 | tensai | harleypig: yes. sometimes it's nice to work in IT. :) |
| 19:21.47 | goozbach | buhahah |
| 19:21.57 | harleypig | thanks ... I'll see if I can get that working. |
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| 19:29.59 | sjansen | ~potato tensai |
| 19:30.10 | ibot | ACTION smacks tensai over the head with a potato |
| 19:30.13 | sjansen | ~potatoe tensai |
| 19:32.01 | dilvie | The first aniversary of the Knobtweakers launch is being celebrated this Saturday at Club Halo. =) |
| 19:32.16 | dilvie | http://www.knobtweakers.net/flyers/birthdayflyer2front.png |
| 19:33.13 | dilvie | for those who like electronic music, you won't want to miss it. |
| 19:35.32 | sjansen | ~potatoe tensai |
| 19:35.34 | ibot | ACTION smacks tensai over the head with Dan Quayle |
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| 19:48.35 | graphyx | good afternoon everybody. |
| 19:52.31 | goozbach | ~ghosthack sjansen |
| 19:52.37 | ibot | ACTION plugs into sjansen's cyberbrain and gets busy |
| 19:54.59 | levi | graphyx: Yo. |
| 19:55.24 | graphyx | hey levi |
| 19:55.53 | emcnabb | hey graphyx |
| 19:56.05 | graphyx | Just got my system back online. |
| 19:56.21 | graphyx | Over the weekend the power supply failed and I just had to run and get a new one and swap it out. |
| 20:01.03 | levi | Yuck. |
| 20:01.10 | sjansen | http://www.frederiksamuel.com/blog/2006/01/vw-card.html |
| 20:01.15 | levi | Over the weekend I got a new 19" LCD monitor. |
| 20:01.51 | graphyx | nice. |
| 20:01.54 | graphyx | 1600x1200? |
| 20:02.04 | levi | Nope. |
| 20:02.56 | levi | It's a fairly cheap one, but it's got 8ms refresh, decent contrast, DVI input, etc. |
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| 20:06.43 | graphyx | I had the option of a 19" CRT with 1600x1200 or a 17" lcd with 1280x1024. I stuck with the crt. |
| 20:07.02 | tensai | ~tomato sjansen |
| 20:07.48 | levi | I mainly wanted the LCD because it takes up far less space. |
| 20:07.59 | levi | Space is a real premium in my condo right now. |
| 20:09.19 | levi | I'm currently used to using a 1024x768 14" laptop screen. a 1280x1024 19" LCD seems quite luxurious. |
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| 20:12.48 | levi | Well, I've also got a 21" 1600x1200 at work, which I suppose is about the same viewable area as the 19" LCD, but I wouldn't want to run 1600x1200 with any smaller of a screen without upping the size of fonts and window decorations and such. |
| 20:17.19 | TimRiker | eep. /me let a wget run rampant last night. |
| 20:18.38 | levi | Hmm, newegg has no 19" LCDs w/1600x1200 resolution. |
| 20:18.50 | graphyx | Levi Put a pre-order in. |
| 20:18.56 | graphyx | Just let me get you the shipping address.. |
| 20:19.06 | TimRiker | meant to download 700M or so and ended up with over 3G |
| 20:19.10 | levi | graphyx: A pre-order for what? |
| 20:19.26 | graphyx | 19" LCD with 1600x1200 |
| 20:19.45 | vontrapp | mmmmmmm |
| 20:19.55 | graphyx | That is a funny thing. you can get 15" 1920x1600 (whatever it really is.) for a laptop but it is hard to find a 19" 1600x1200 LCD screen. |
| 20:20.20 | TimRiker | laptops I've seen were 1600x1200 |
| 20:20.21 | vontrapp | yeah, that is silly |
| 20:20.36 | vontrapp | 15" 1920x1200 widescreen |
| 20:20.47 | TimRiker | yowser. |
| 20:20.56 | TimRiker | ~zippy |
| 20:23.43 | levi | graphyx: All the 1600x1200 are 20", because people like to be able to see their text when they're sitting at a desk. |
| 20:24.28 | hans | I like widescreen, regardless of the size |
| 20:24.43 | tensai | TimRiker: I tried to combine the select all in one but didn't see the right api, thus the patch I submitted. I can dig for it, but do you know the syntax off the top of your head? |
| 20:24.45 | hans | I worked in a lab where they had widescreen monitors and I am sold |
| 20:25.09 | graphyx | I mean I like my 1600x1200 19" CRT, but that 15" 1920x1200 was overkill to me. |
| 20:25.34 | TimRiker | tensai: hang on, I'll look. |
| 20:25.40 | graphyx | hans what is so cool about the widescreen IYHO? |
| 20:26.06 | levi | Hmm, the first page of 1920x1200 LCDs are all at least 23" and start in the mid $900s. |
| 20:26.06 | TimRiker | graphyx: movies... oh.. two windows side by side is what I do the most. |
| 20:26.27 | tensai | just go all out and get an IMAX screen installed |
| 20:26.30 | hans | we humans process horizontal things better, or so I hear |
| 20:27.03 | hans | but practically speaking, it means I can have some xterms and a browser open without overlapping |
| 20:27.35 | levi | If I had a kilobuck to blow, this would be nice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824009061 |
| 20:27.36 | brac | [Acer AL2416Wd Silver 24" 6ms gray-to-gray Wide Screen LCD Monitor - Retail at Newegg.com] |
| 20:27.59 | levi | hans: With my iBook, I've come to embrace overlapping. ;) |
| 20:28.24 | hans | overlapping works best with focus follow mouse |
| 20:28.49 | hans | most resolutions lead to overlapping, but for a while there I had paradise in those monitors |
| 20:29.05 | hans | dual-screen works that way too, but there you have two distinct areas since you don't want stuff over the crack |
| 20:29.17 | levi | I've come to embrace click-to-focus, too. |
| 20:29.25 | tensai | TimRiker: ah, I think I've got it. &sqlSelectMany |
| 20:29.25 | levi | And keyboard focus switching. |
| 20:29.36 | TimRiker | sqlSelectRowHash might be easier. |
| 20:29.48 | hans | the only reason I can stand click to focus in osx is the excellent keyboard focus switching |
| 20:29.58 | tensai | TimRiker: thanks. I'll take a look |
| 20:29.58 | levi | I like how OS X separates cmd-tab and cmd-~ |
| 20:30.00 | hans | cmd-` and cmd-tab |
| 20:30.11 | levi | Er, yeah, ` |
| 20:30.27 | hans | and expose |
| 20:30.36 | hans | when things get really complicated :) |
| 20:30.36 | vontrapp | blach, poo on click to focus |
| 20:30.44 | hans | and cmd-h, cmd-m |
| 20:30.58 | hans | so I can get stupid stuff out of the way - that's the reason I can get by without multiple desktops |
| 20:31.09 | levi | Yup. |
| 20:31.47 | hans | it takes a bit to switch gears when I'm in linux, but the usability is roughly the same. now, if I could have multiple desktops and focus follows mouse with all the keyboard goodness of osx, that would really be heaven. |
| 20:32.06 | levi | I don't know that the modes would interact all that gracefully. |
| 20:32.17 | hans | what mode? |
| 20:32.22 | levi | Focus-follows-mouse along with keyboard focus changes could be disasterous. |
| 20:32.47 | levi | At least, it doesn't work very well when I attempt it in Gnome. |
| 20:32.57 | tensai | ~lart focus-follows-mouse |
| 20:33.08 | hans | well if you use the mouse, you lose the relevance of MRU |
| 20:33.38 | hans | unless of course you're careful with your mousing |
| 20:33.42 | levi | No, it's more like I'll switch to a different emacs frame via the keyboard, but it won't stick because the mouse is still in the other one. |
| 20:34.01 | hans | that's just cuz emacs is stupid |
| 20:34.24 | sjansen | Anyone foolish enough to use focus-follows-mouse gets what they deserve. |
| 20:34.44 | hans | I spent years with focus mouse and highly customized keyboard navigation and it works just fine |
| 20:35.16 | hans | these days I don't so much crave focus follow mouse, but windows that don't have to rise to the top when they get focus |
| 20:35.25 | levi | hans: Well, it worked just fine for you. It doesn't for me, so I use the mouse more than I'd like to in Linux at the moment. |
| 20:35.30 | hans | whether that's a special way of clicking, or vice versa |
| 20:35.56 | hans | levi: you mentioned gnome. I can't stand gnome's keyboard support |
| 20:36.10 | hans | completely worthless. one of the things they threw out in favor of usability. hah |
| 20:36.11 | levi | Well, I'm not really using it. |
| 20:36.21 | hans | right, because it's worthless |
| 20:36.37 | vontrapp | yes, it really is about not raising the window when it gets focus, but i'm also so used to focus-follows-mouse now that i'll move it and start typing or something before realizing the window doesn't have focus when i don't have it |
| 20:36.55 | hans | typing stuff in an xterm after googling, and still being able to see the browser, priceless. |
| 20:37.28 | hans | vontrapp: precisely. you get over the expectation of focus, but you always miss the ability to focus without raising |
| 20:37.47 | vontrapp | always |
| 20:38.12 | vontrapp | especially if you're trying to read of a small window while using a large window that covers the small one |
| 20:38.14 | levi | I think people would be better served in this discussion by replacement of 'you' with 'I', seeing as you're describing your experiences rather than universal ones. |
| 20:38.31 | hans | i was absolutely floored that the mainstay wm of so many years past, fvwm, is completely incapable of dong an mru-style alt-tab |
| 20:38.35 | vontrapp | s/you/levi |
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| 20:38.52 | vontrapp | levi always misses the ability to focus without raising |
| 20:38.56 | hans | levi: hey, it's not my fault that english doesn't make sense |
| 20:39.38 | levi | hans: It would make perfect sense for you to say, 'I always miss X when doing Y' or somesuch, and it would be more clear as well. |
| 20:40.00 | hans | it's not the same thing, and you know it |
| 20:40.03 | levi | I occasionally miss focus without raising, but certainly not always or even often these days. |
| 20:40.09 | hans | come on, you're a native english speaker. |
| 20:40.13 | levi | hans: True, but it's more correct. |
| 20:40.45 | levi | hans: With 'you' you're projecting your experience on everyone else. Which, I imagine, is what you intended. |
| 20:40.56 | levi | hans: So I'm not crticizing your writing skills. |
| 20:41.38 | levi | Just your assumption of being a typical user. |
| 20:41.44 | hans | so which is it? I meant what I wrote or I didn't mean what I wrote |
| 20:42.26 | levi | You did mean what you wrote, but I think what you meant was incorrect and I suggested a more likely to be correct alternative. |
| 20:43.12 | hans | well you've completely confused me. |
| 20:44.05 | sjansen | One feels that both hans and levi would have been well served by using a different pronoun. |
| 20:44.16 | hans | but english got in the way |
| 20:44.20 | hans | *shrug* |
| 20:44.50 | levi | It's difficult to argue with a statement like 'I always miss X when I do Y', since you're describing your preference and experience. When you say 'You always miss X when you do Y', you're implying that everyone, or at least the typical person, would miss X when doing Y, which is very arguable. |
| 20:44.51 | sjansen | ~project levi |
| 20:44.53 | goozbach | stupid english |
| 20:45.36 | hans | i agree it's obviously a matter of preference, and I never hoped to imply otherwise |
| 20:46.04 | levi | Of course, if you hope to incite an argument, the latter wording would likely be more effective. :) |
| 20:46.49 | hans | i disagree with your interpretation |
| 20:46.55 | dataw0lf | Anyone know, in python, if there's a way that an imported module can reference the importer's namespace? |
| 20:47.18 | hans | you can take the A out of the B, but you can't take the B out of the A. |
| 20:48.02 | hans | where in that phrase is any implication that you are talking about everyone or the average person? it's an impersonal statement |
| 20:48.02 | levi | hans: That's a totally different statement. It aims to make a sweeping generalization. |
| 20:48.35 | hans | isn't that what I was doing? generalizing across various window management techniques? |
| 20:49.33 | levi | Yes, it is what you were doing. But you were generalizing across users of two specific types of window managment techniques, not across the techniques themselves. |
| 20:49.58 | hans | you're going to have to be more specific I think |
| 20:50.25 | hans | also more specific in just what you're accusing me of, since I still don't see what that is |
| 20:50.43 | levi | You generalized that users always miss being able to change focus without raising. |
| 20:51.35 | hans | it was obviously implied that it was those who liked that and were used to relying on it |
| 20:52.08 | hans | it was, in fact, a response to von's statement of essentially the same thing. an affirmation where the you was in fact specific with connotations of generalizations |
| 20:52.35 | levi | Well, I liked it and was used to relying on it, but I don't really miss it anymore. |
| 20:53.52 | levi | It only really stuck out to me because I didn't fit the generalization. |
| 20:55.31 | hans | that's the thing about generalizations |
| 20:56.35 | tensai | generalizations should never be used |
| 20:56.50 | graphyx | tensai: You make me laugh. |
| 20:56.59 | tensai | ~tickle graphyx |
| 20:57.00 | ibot | ACTION jumps on graphyx, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 20:57.11 | graphyx | you should have emphasized neven: generalizations should *NEVER* be used. |
| 20:57.17 | tensai | graphyx: glad I'm good for something |
| 20:57.20 | levi | It seems to me that your issue with Gnome is that you don't fit their particular generalizations. So you might want to avoid making them rashly yourself. Or you might not care, which is fine too, so long as you are at least aware of them. I'm really just being pedantic and annoying, so I'll stop. :) |
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| 20:59.19 | hans | yes, I'm quite aware that I fit almost none of the standard generalizations |
| 20:59.33 | hans | although gnome works out pretty well for me for casual usage |
| 21:00.26 | levi | I think their goal is to be pretty good for the casual user, and I think they're doing that rather well. |
| 21:02.57 | hans | i agree |
| 21:03.40 | graphyx | hans: I can't think of a single stereo type to peg you in. |
| 21:03.40 | findlay | while loosing/alienating some of their power users |
| 21:03.47 | levi | I don't ask a whole lot of my Linux desktop environment anymore, so it works fine for me. I program in emacs, which is enough to satisfy any of my power-user needs, and I do most everything else in OS X. |
| 21:04.00 | graphyx | just remember, that you are unique! Just like everyone else. |
| 21:22.56 | vontrapp | anyone know if i was upgrading from sveasoft to openwrt, would i use .bin or .trx? |
| 21:23.51 | tensai | vontrapp: what's a .trx? I think I used a .bin when I went from sveasoft to openwrt. |
| 21:24.32 | vontrapp | it says "firmware in raw format, suitable for writing directly to the flash of for vendors that don't require a BIN file" |
| 21:24.52 | vontrapp | <- the .trx extension |
| 21:25.20 | vontrapp | you used .bin? i'll just go with that then |
| 21:27.17 | sjansen | ~lart tensai |
| 21:27.24 | tensai | I'm pretty sure I did. .trx sure doesn't sound familiar. |
| 21:27.29 | sjansen | Without you, tensai, who would I lart? |
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| 21:27.33 | sjansen | Oh, wait... |
| 21:27.35 | sjansen | ~lart hans |
| 21:27.37 | tensai | ~rlart |
| 21:28.14 | vontrapp | hrm, the firefox save dialogue takes about 20 seconds to come up |
| 21:28.34 | tensai | vontrapp: when was your last chicken sacrifice? |
| 21:28.42 | hans | that's so you don't accidentally save the wrong thing |
| 21:29.26 | goozbach | I tried to do a sacrifice the other day |
| 21:29.34 | goozbach | I couldnt' find a chicken (live) |
| 21:29.42 | goozbach | so I did the next best thing.. |
| 21:29.45 | goozbach | KFC |
| 21:30.09 | sjansen | It actually a security feature. Firefox has some odd things like that since its entire UI is basically just glorified HTML+CSS+ECMAScript. |
| 21:30.35 | vontrapp | hans, still can't figure out how to enable boot_wait |
| 21:31.55 | tensai | vontrapp: doesn't sveasoft have an 'nvram' command? |
| 21:32.07 | tensai | nvram set boot_wait=1; nvram commit |
| 21:32.28 | tensai | it's been to long since I upgraded, but I thought so |
| 21:33.00 | vontrapp | do i do that command in the diagnostics shell? |
| 21:34.07 | tensai | I enabled the ssh daemon |
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| 21:34.27 | Hhhhh | anybody here has used/currently uses a linux PDA like the Sharp Zaurus? |
| 21:34.31 | tensai | but that might work too. you could check by running 'nvram get boot_wait' afterwards |
| 21:35.45 | sjansen | Hhhhh: I had a zaurus a long time ago. I think bbeatie is selling one right now. (If it isn't already gone.) |
| 21:35.48 | vontrapp | hmm, boot_wait on, md5sum checked |
| 21:35.53 | vontrapp | anything else i should do? |
| 21:36.14 | vontrapp | should i reset the settings? |
| 21:36.27 | Hhhhh | sjansen, which zaurus did you have? |
| 21:37.18 | tensai | vontrapp: I found there are a ton of useless settings left over from linksys and sveasoft, but I'm too chicken to delete them |
| 21:37.44 | tensai | vontrapp: anything really important gets defaulted by the installer so you should be fine |
| 21:37.59 | vontrapp | it has this option "reset after flashing to: [No reset, Firmware Defaults, Factory Defaults]" |
| 21:38.28 | tensai | I don't recall that. I would reset it then. firmware maybe? I dunno. |
| 21:38.36 | tensai | what version are you installing? |
| 21:38.42 | vontrapp | rc4 |
| 21:39.16 | tensai | I'm running rc2. sounds like they made some good improvements. |
| 21:39.17 | hans | if you don't mind setting up your wireless essid and all that again, go for factory |
| 21:39.29 | vontrapp | i don't mind |
| 21:41.11 | vontrapp | firefox has me worried |
| 21:41.24 | vontrapp | browse dialogue is taking ages to come up as well |
| 21:44.35 | vontrapp | ah, it's samba's fault again |
| 21:44.38 | vontrapp | ~lart samba |
| 21:44.55 | vontrapp | browse dialogue is taking ages to come up as well |
| 21:45.29 | vontrapp | ~lart samba |
| 21:46.04 | goozbach | BOOM! headshot! |
| 21:47.04 | Hhhhh | hey sjansen |
| 21:47.11 | Hhhhh | which zaurus did you have? |
| 21:47.19 | sjansen | Hhhhh: I had the 5000d |
| 21:47.19 | vontrapp | upgrading... /me crosses fingers |
| 21:54.27 | harleypig | Why can't I have that kind of larting? |
| 21:55.03 | Hhhhh | sjansen, how was it? can you gimme a general impression? I might buy a 5500 or a 5600 |
| 21:57.47 | sjansen | A bit bulky, but the keyboard was nice to have. You definetly want to put the community built environment on it. (Can't remember what it's called.) |
| 21:57.50 | goozbach | I didn't like the battery life on mine |
| 21:58.03 | goozbach | but it was old |
| 21:58.08 | goozbach | and a hand me down |
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| 21:58.31 | sjansen | It took about half a second longer than Palms to wake up again. |
| 21:58.53 | hans | your digital watch? |
| 21:59.11 | sjansen | My biggest gripe with the Zaurus was that it didn't have networking unless you bought CF wireless card. |
| 21:59.38 | sjansen | Overall, I prefer my Treo, although I wish it were Linux based. |
| 21:59.46 | goozbach | ditto |
| 22:00.07 | goozbach | I use my treo more because I take it along for the phone. |
| 22:00.13 | goozbach | i'm never without it |
| 22:02.32 | levi | I used the Treo more than my Zaurus, too. |
| 22:02.49 | levi | I don't use either very much any more, though. |
| 22:03.17 | levi | I keep wanting to write an app to interface with my car's aftermarket computer to do monitoring and reprogramming of it, but I haven't got around to it. |
| 22:03.21 | maquis | levi: nope... not ready |
| 22:03.25 | levi | (with the Zaurus, I mean) |
| 22:03.34 | levi | maquis: Better hurry and get ready. :) |
| 22:03.40 | maquis | le |
| 22:03.42 | maquis | er |
| 22:03.49 | maquis | levi: yeah... i know |
| 22:03.55 | maquis | need to go buy books eventually |
| 22:04.32 | levi | I've got my second day of classes today. |
| 22:04.37 | levi | Need to pick up some books, too. |
| 22:05.17 | maquis | levi: today's the second day for you? your first day was a friday |
| 22:05.21 | maquis | ? |
| 22:05.55 | levi | maquis: My first day was a Wednesday, which is also the last day of the week that I have classes. |
| 22:06.13 | maquis | oh |
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| 22:12.07 | hans | my classes start a week from thurs |
| 22:12.43 | jsmith | hans: One more week to hack on fun projects?!? |
| 22:13.00 | hans | if I can get myself out of vacation mode. :) |
| 22:13.20 | hans | I tend to have more interest in fun projects when they're competing with schoolwork |
| 22:14.15 | maquis | hans: yeah... i have the same problem |
| 22:14.44 | QBFreak | maybe if I go back to school I'll get more done :) |
| 22:14.47 | hans | then on these vacations I tend to do things I never do most of the time, like play games, read novels, etc. |
| 22:15.03 | hans | but this vacation is getting old. I've been out of school since dec 8 |
| 22:15.13 | hans | it would have gotten old a week ago, but I spent a week sick |
| 22:15.49 | hans | so this week (after reveling in my new ram whenever it gets here) I think I've got the itch to do some music |
| 22:15.56 | hans | my keyboard is calling to me |
| 22:16.19 | hans | maybe electrify a bach fugue or something |
| 22:16.40 | hans | I usually try to do a Christmas piece, but the sickness threw me |
| 22:17.57 | hans | wow, here's a site that rents books |
| 22:29.49 | Goshen | hans: yea, library :) |
| 22:31.16 | hans | :) |
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| 22:56.10 | hans | it's here |
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| 23:15.34 | hans | oh yeah, baby |
| 23:15.47 | hans | there was no chime. is that bad? |
| 23:16.05 | hans | and, does it chime if it's muted when you turn it off? |
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| 23:38.35 | hans | ~rlart |
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| 23:44.34 | jsmith | hans: How much ram, how many dollars? |
| 23:45.39 | hans | 512, 50 |
| 23:45.44 | hans | laptop ram |
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| 23:55.54 | SpecialZ | Any BYU people on here know of an easy Technical Writing prof ? |
| 23:57.49 | hans | what are your options? |
| 23:58.09 | hans | the lady I had was good. not mickey mouse easy, but the class was worthwhile and not too hard |
| 23:58.39 | SpecialZ | Wall, fieldsted, adams, zimmerman, nickell |
| 23:58.52 | hans | don't ring a bell |
| 23:59.48 | SpecialZ | rutter and grover are less ideal evening teachers |
