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| 02:11.39 | hans | -lart armored shrink-wrap |
| 02:12.13 | maquis | hans: is that the hard plastic casing that requires a wrench, leatherman and wire cutters to open? |
| 02:12.18 | hans | yup |
| 02:13.06 | hans | ~seen jakea |
| 02:13.15 | ibot | jakea <n=jakea@128.187.222.206> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 76d 2h 44m 59s ago, saying: 'now...... where did I put my piece of slightly psychic paper...'. |
| 02:13.45 | maquis | last time i encountered one of those, i spent at least 10 minutes fighting it, and scratched up my hand a bit in the process |
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| 02:16.17 | hans | any other doctor who fans? |
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| 02:21.32 | Newsome | ~lart salespeople who go door-to-door during Stargate |
| 02:22.25 | maquis | Newsome: how dare they? |
| 02:22.28 | maquis | (sg-1?) |
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| 02:25.54 | Newsome | yeah |
| 02:26.05 | Newsome | some silly newspaper |
| 02:26.14 | maquis | stupid |
| 02:30.42 | sjansen | Oh well, it could be worse. I could be installing gentoo or debian. |
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| 03:54.56 | maquis | it's bad when you notice that your computer's still compiling some port, and yo ucan't remember what it is, or what it was for |
| 03:55.29 | maquis | i thought it was gnumeric, but for some reason, it appears to be installing mplayer, so i think i must be remembering wrong |
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| 04:14.51 | tensai | ~larg gentoo |
| 04:14.55 | tensai | ~lart gentoo |
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| 04:22.23 | maquis | zsh: illegal hardware instruction (core dumped) gnumeric |
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| 04:32.59 | tensai | maquis: uh, oh. don't be surprised if the feds come knocking. they don't take lightly to illegal instructions. |
| 04:40.37 | maquis | haha |
| 05:02.18 | roscivs | something like rsync over sftp. Any suggestions? |
| 05:04.36 | Newsome | a question? |
| 05:04.49 | roscivs | I'm looking for |
| 05:06.09 | Newsome | you can't just do rsync over ssh? |
| 05:06.28 | roscivs | nope. ssh is not allowed. only sftp. |
| 05:18.00 | tensai | sftp is exactly like rsync over ssh. it runs over an ssh transport starting /usr/bin/sftp-server |
| 05:18.29 | roscivs | tensai: um, yeah, except it doesn't automatically sync my files |
| 05:19.42 | roscivs | (that's kind of the important part) |
| 05:19.49 | tensai | roscivs: right. sorry, not what I was implying. why can't you run rysync? do you not have a normal ssh shell? can you request one, citing the evidence I just gave? |
| 05:20.27 | roscivs | locked out via rssh, |
| 05:20.37 | roscivs | the only command allowed to be executed over ssh is sftp |
| 05:20.48 | roscivs | (so sftp works, but nothing else.) |
| 05:21.55 | tensai | who controls the server? |
| 05:22.23 | roscivs | it's paid web hosting |
| 05:22.35 | roscivs | only ftp and sftp access allowed |
| 05:23.03 | tensai | silly question, but have you asked? |
| 05:23.20 | roscivs | which isn't a big deal, I'm just getting tired of the change file->upload->refresh rigamarole |
| 05:23.38 | tensai | could you script it with expect? |
| 05:23.54 | roscivs | no I haven't, but the next expensive account comes with an ssh account, so I'd imagine they'd tell me to upgrade to that if I wanted something like that |
| 05:24.09 | tensai | lftp works great if you want to downgrade to ftp |
| 05:24.18 | roscivs | hmmm... /me reseraches expect |
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| 05:26.24 | roscivs | ok, /me researches lftp |
| 05:26.43 | Newsome | woohoo! |
| 05:26.45 | roscivs | hm hm! lftp can run over sftp, apparently. |
| 05:26.47 | maquis | w00t! |
| 05:27.07 | roscivs | Hm. Somehow I sense all this excitement isn't at my lftp discoveries. |
| 05:27.36 | roscivs | oh, w00tage, lftp is even already installed on my desktop box. how loverly. |
| 05:31.58 | tensai | I didn't know lftp could use sftp. bonus. |
| 05:32.11 | roscivs | hm. now I just have to figure out how to get it to use sftp. |
| 05:33.03 | roscivs | ah. got it. |
| 05:38.57 | xbmodder | can someone write a "make a friend" program in C or python? |
| 05:39.38 | QBFreak | is that a question or a request? :) |
| 05:40.29 | maquis | xbmodder: i'd suggest making a real friend... as nice as AIs are these days, i don't think they can substitute for actually having a human friend |
| 05:40.30 | xbmodder | request :) |
| 05:40.48 | maquis | granted, i understand that may be difficult |
| 05:40.51 | xbmodder | maquis, :-/ |
| 05:41.10 | maquis | in which case, i'd recommend making some acquaintances first... and then trying to be nice to them, and see if maybe it develops in that direction |
| 05:41.20 | xbmodder | just slightly annoyed that I feel like I am a steel box. |
| 05:42.06 | xbmodder | maquis, I'll try. |
| 05:42.16 | xbmodder | hopefully I'll be successful. |
| 05:43.33 | Newsome | hrm, gotta reboot again |
| 05:45.35 | xbmodder | I'm going to write an AI |
| 05:45.39 | xbmodder | and teach it to be like me |
| 05:45.43 | xbmodder | Fun, eh? |
| 05:45.51 | xbmodder | should I use tuples or lists? |
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| 05:59.48 | SpecialK | be careful about the access you give it, it might delete itself. |
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| 06:12.19 | xbmodder | how much longer? |
| 06:12.59 | QBFreak | hmm? |
| 06:15.06 | xbmodder | Until: A) I am happy. B) I do not have a retarded principal thinking he can do whatever he wants to me C) I do not have a teacher who thinks that she is god inside of her classroom. D) No longer have to go to school E) lose the rules of a teenager F) Have some rights. |
| 06:15.28 | xbmodder | see when your 14 you can give the excuse 'your a kid' |
| 06:15.36 | xbmodder | 15 your expected to act/be an adult |
| 06:15.42 | xbmodder | but given none of the priveleges |
| 06:15.58 | xbmodder | and why am I saying this in #utahnian chat room? |
| 06:17.09 | QBFreak | hang in there, one day it'll change |
| 06:18.12 | xbmodder | 3 years 362 days to almost be exact |
| 06:18.16 | xbmodder | I will get my rights |
| 06:18.37 | xbmodder | at least 4 years until I get rid of this retard called a principal |
| 06:19.22 | xbmodder | and school another 8 years at least |
| 06:23.50 | maquis | xbmodder: if you don't want to go to school anymore, you don't *have* to go after finishing high school |
| 06:24.16 | maquis | as for rules, you'll still have them when you go home to visit if you go to college |
| 06:24.37 | maquis | as for being happy, it doesn't need to depend on external things like that |
| 06:25.48 | maquis | trust me.... if you're thinking "i'll be happy when $foo", it doesn't quite work, because $foo happens, and something else keeps you from being happy.... |
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| 06:26.22 | maquis | if you think "i'm going to try to be happy despite $foo", you'll be happier (and yes, i know that's really hard... i haven't quite managed it myself yet) |
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| 06:27.27 | maquis | xbmodder: and, when you're 21, you have a lot more things that you're supposed to be an adult in... |
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| 06:29.21 | SpecialK | The world will not suddenly change itself to make you happy |
| 06:29.51 | SpecialK | You need to change yourself and the world around you, and find a way to be happy doing it whether you succeed or not. |
| 06:31.35 | xbmodder | maquis, yeah true. |
| 06:31.51 | xbmodder | great. |
| 06:32.03 | xbmodder | so I'll reach zen when I die :) |
| 06:32.08 | maquis | i've also found that there are more $foos now than there were 5 years ago |
| 06:32.14 | maquis | and i still get caught by them... |
| 06:32.15 | xbmodder | knowing my luck that could be now, or in 35 years. |
| 06:32.33 | maquis | hopefully not for quite a while |
| 06:32.38 | maquis | enjoy life while it's here |
| 06:33.16 | xbmodder | maquis, thanks :) |
| 06:33.23 | maquis | xbmodder: np |
| 06:33.30 | maquis | life is fun when you make it that way |
| 06:33.31 | maquis | seriously |
| 06:34.12 | xbmodder | its just hard, you know making it fun? |
| 06:34.20 | maquis | absolutely |
| 06:34.57 | xbmodder | hopefully all the pain I feel this time of year will fade. |
| 06:36.42 | xbmodder | you know, the holidays |
| 06:37.11 | xbmodder | I think I was wished merry christmas more by telephone technical assisstance than my friends. |
| 06:38.09 | xbmodder | Do I sound like an idiot right now? |
| 06:39.42 | QBFreak | not to me |
| 06:39.46 | maquis | no |
| 06:40.37 | QBFreak | life likes to get us all down |
| 06:41.39 | xbmodder | then you gotta figure out how to balance it out |
| 06:41.43 | xbmodder | the hard part :( |
| 06:46.45 | xbmodder | ergh. |
| 06:47.12 | xbmodder | I have a question that I don't believe I am 'mature' enough to answer. |
| 06:47.45 | xbmodder | My principal violated my 1st amendment rights (and goozbach agrees with him), my parents don't want to report it. |
| 06:47.54 | xbmodder | Do you think I should tell the DA |
| 06:51.18 | xbmodder | and go against my parents? |
| 06:54.43 | QBFreak | if it were me I'd listen to my parents |
| 07:00.15 | xbmodder | cool |
| 07:00.24 | xbmodder | QBFreak, are you new in #utah or a nick change outr |
| 07:00.25 | maquis | xbmodder: what'd he do? |
| 07:00.33 | maquis | out of curiosity |
| 07:00.48 | maquis | (your principal) |
| 07:01.10 | xbmodder | maquis, said he would suspend me if I didn't get "diane kratz" (my teacher's name) to resolve my website for the first result on google |
| 07:01.11 | maquis | btw, congrats on spelling that correctly... i always have to pause for a sec and remember if it's principal or principle |
| 07:01.19 | xbmodder | i called her a dumb*ss. |
| 07:01.22 | xbmodder | :) |
| 07:02.03 | maquis | wait... he wanted to search for her name, and have your website show up? or what? |
| 07:02.06 | xbmodder | on my blog... |
| 07:02.24 | xbmodder | maquis, oops. he said the oppposite |
| 07:02.33 | xbmodder | if it continues to show up he suspends me. |
| 07:02.39 | xbmodder | I lost my level 5 pagerank |
| 07:02.46 | xbmodder | god I was a stupid idiot |
| 07:02.59 | maquis | ah |
| 07:03.22 | xbmodder | i wonder what will happen if I post the entire staff's name on my site. what he'll do.. *bad thought* *self.smack()* |
| 07:03.40 | xbmodder | actually *self.smack(self)* |
| 07:03.46 | maquis | on some level, i agree that you shouldn't have that type of thing on your website --- it could look bad... |
| 07:04.04 | xbmodder | maquis, that was the point... |
| 07:04.16 | xbmodder | maquis, the school is having a 3 year evaluation |
| 07:04.23 | xbmodder | and they search the teachers |
| 07:04.25 | maquis | and technically, if it's ok to fire someone for having something like that on their website... |
| 07:04.33 | xbmodder | maquis, yeah |
| 07:04.34 | maquis | no... i'm not talking about it looking bad for the school (although it does) |
| 07:04.38 | maquis | it looks bad for you as well |
| 07:04.41 | xbmodder | maquis, you can't "fire" a student |
| 07:04.52 | xbmodder | maquis, who does it look bad to? |
| 07:05.01 | maquis | a prospective employer? |
| 07:05.17 | maquis | if you're doing that to a teacher, who's to say you won't do it to the company/manager/etc |
| 07:05.44 | maquis | remember that 4 years down the line, what you do today online will still be accessible... |
| 07:05.47 | xbmodder | maquis, I can't get a 'real' job for another 2.9 years |
| 07:05.53 | maquis | yeah |
| 07:06.12 | RyanE | xbmodder: so you'll have 3 years' worth of bad comments... |
| 07:06.20 | xbmodder | RyanE, 3.1 |
| 07:06.25 | RyanE | whatever |
| 07:06.25 | xbmodder | :-/ |
| 07:06.35 | maquis | xbmodder: aren't you 14? |
| 07:06.41 | maquis | or 15 |
| 07:06.43 | xbmodder | maquis, 15 as of janurary 3 |
| 07:06.47 | RyanE | any case, not an auspicious bgeginning. |
| 07:06.48 | maquis | can't you get a job at 16? |
| 07:06.59 | xbmodder | maquis, not anything computer related really. |
| 07:07.02 | maquis | at least in most states, it's 16 for a real job (granted, it's part-time) |
| 07:07.18 | xbmodder | maquis, you have to have a 3.5++ GPA |
| 07:07.25 | maquis | ah |
| 07:07.28 | xbmodder | and umm.. only like 6 hours a week max |
| 07:07.43 | maquis | that's still a job... |
| 07:07.47 | xbmodder | thats 90 bucks a week at 10 bucks |
| 07:07.59 | maquis | washington allows more hours... i think 15 hours is the limit here |
| 07:08.04 | xbmodder | teenagers usually get manual labor type jobs. |
| 07:08.26 | maquis | but... regardless, you still don't want to end up in 4 years discovering that a job you wanted doesn't want you because of things like this |
| 07:08.30 | xbmodder | and as you probably know, I am not good at that :( |
| 07:08.32 | xbmodder | maquis, true. |
| 07:08.36 | xbmodder | too true. |
| 07:08.49 | xbmodder | then again, I really do want to get rid of this principal |
| 07:09.10 | xbmodder | not really rid |
| 07:09.26 | xbmodder | just the idea that I am getting 'talks' from teachers, etc... |
| 07:09.33 | maquis | i just read an article earlier this week by someone who does HR, and said that he turns down a lot of applicants because of things they had on their blog/website, and things that they've said in logged chat rooms (or chatrooms with company employees) and things on email lists |
| 07:09.48 | maquis | (and that was for software dev positions) |
| 07:10.00 | xbmodder | maquis, ouch :( |
| 07:10.04 | maquis | yes |
| 07:10.34 | maquis | so, even if he may have been out of line in his threat, he has a very good point (even if he didn't mean it for this reason) |
| 07:14.27 | xbmodder | maquis, one of my friends went linspire>mandriva>gentoo(2 years)>FreeBSD>Insanity>Gentoo |
| 07:16.19 | QBFreak | and once again case sensitivity bites me in the backside :) |
| 07:16.55 | maquis | xbmodder: :) |
| 07:17.13 | maquis | freebsd and gentoo are pretty similar |
| 07:20.26 | xbmodder | difference: gentoo users keep their sanity. |
| 07:22.52 | maquis | haha |
| 07:30.30 | maquis | GRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:38.06 | xbmodder | lol |
| 07:52.16 | QBFreak | in perl regex, I know I can do something like (foo){1,2} to match one or two foos, but is there a way to do it so it populates $1 and $2 not just $1? That is, I want one expression to match one or two but to be able to tell if it matched once or twice |
| 07:53.28 | QBFreak | eh, since I'm matchign a whole line I'll just go with two checks |
| 07:59.26 | Tene | (foo)(foo)? works |
| 07:59.38 | QBFreak | ah that it does |
| 08:00.20 | QBFreak | however I discovered that two search/replace were fewer lines than the doing checks on the results and such |
| 08:02.01 | Tene | Cubey: the {1,2} thing isn't good because it makes the positional params for the rest of the matches awkward |
| 08:02.42 | QBFreak | I missed the bit about the ? doing the optional thing, otherwise I would have done that |
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| 08:57.58 | mheath | haha, I forgot about that. |
| 09:03.18 | mheath | I should remove that. I'm not an officer. =P |
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| 09:06.31 | fozzmoo | WAHOO!!! |
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| 09:07.17 | fozzmoo | WAHOO!!! |
| 09:07.50 | fozzmoo | I hate it when I have a breakthrough and there's nobody around to share it with. |
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| 15:56.36 | RyanE | ll |
| 15:56.39 | RyanE | hehe |
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| 16:58.13 | hans | sweet. the computer took a while to waste me that time |
| 17:03.50 | jsmith | Computers are like that... |
| 17:45.28 | hans | my earliest class this semester is at 1:30 |
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| 18:13.06 | decriptor | has anyone in here setup monowall or pfsense |
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| 18:39.37 | TimRiker | y'all see ths new feature? |
| 18:39.44 | TimRiker | s/ths/the/ |
| 18:43.20 | xbmodder | hey |
| 18:44.24 | hans | so it spels now huh? |
| 18:44.41 | hans | s/spels/spells/ |
| 18:44.57 | hans | s/hey/ho/ |
| 18:45.12 | hans | too bad, can't correct others. ;-) |
| 18:45.23 | hans | xbmodder: s/hey/ho/ |
| 18:46.17 | TimRiker | heh. nope, just your own posts. |
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| 19:15.00 | goozbach | oh grat |
| 19:15.06 | goozbach | s/grat/great |
| 19:15.22 | goozbach | s/grat/great/ |
| 19:15.31 | goozbach | well almost |
| 19:19.08 | spr | thats pretty cool |
| 19:19.13 | spr | s/thats/that's/ |
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| 20:28.16 | mheath | Awesme |
| 20:28.26 | mheath | s/Awesme/Awesome/ |
| 20:28.37 | mheath | Thanks, ibot :) |
| 20:31.03 | mheath | It scares me when half of patches that are being applied to Hurd are from 1995. |
| 20:31.16 | mheath | They just added a big pflocal patch...... |
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