| 00:00.08 | fozzmoo | If it is, it's a flavor I'm not familiar with. ;-) |
| 00:00.33 | goozbach | whipped cream doesn't come out of that part of the cow. |
| 00:01.37 | Lone_Wanderer_ | you hope |
| 00:02.15 | Lone_Wanderer_ | if you don't milk a cow often enough the milk can go bad in the udder and it'll kill the cow |
| 00:15.39 | Lone_Wanderer_ | wow. $2k for a class. |
| 00:17.42 | goozbach | Lone_Wanderer_: I was talking about the part above and behind the udder |
| 00:17.58 | Lone_Wanderer_ | cows don't have that part. bulls do. |
| 00:18.29 | goozbach | cows do to have an anus |
| 00:18.40 | Lone_Wanderer_ | ohhhhh |
| 00:18.49 | goozbach | let me spell it out: I buried fozzmoo in SH*T |
| 00:18.54 | Lone_Wanderer_ | gotcha |
| 00:20.28 | sjansen | just for the record, I haven't seen a bull yet that had an udder |
| 00:27.26 | goozbach | fozzmoo: see you in a bit |
| 00:27.34 | goozbach | I'll bring a shovel |
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| 00:39.15 | sjansen | Yay! Gnome is coming closer to having drag and drop support that Mac OS had in the late 90's! |
| 00:42.34 | Goshen | lol |
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| 00:53.46 | Tene | sjansen: clarify? |
| 00:57.08 | xbmodder | hey |
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| 01:12.34 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:28.07 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:48.28 | Lone_Wanderer | \n |
| 01:48.29 | Lone_Wanderer | hmm |
| 01:48.38 | Lone_Wanderer | clever maquis and sjansen... |
| 01:48.54 | Hhhhh | \n |
| 01:49.00 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.06 | Lone_Wanderer | yarrr |
| 01:49.20 | maquis | :) |
| 01:49.49 | Lone_Wanderer | okay, starting to lose my attention span |
| 01:50.33 | Hhhhh | does anybody here have a laptop for sale? |
| 01:51.19 | maquis | Hhhhh: how much you offering? |
| 01:51.40 | Hhhhh | maquis, it depends, what do you have? |
| 01:51.54 | sjansen | Hhhhh: I can get you a really lousy deal on three sheets of paper and a half dry pen. |
| 01:52.13 | maquis | Hhhhh: i've got an old toshiba that i've been debating whether to sell or keep... |
| 01:52.20 | Hhhhh | sjansen, thanks, but I think you should put it up on ebay |
| 01:52.27 | Hhhhh | maquis, specs? |
| 01:52.32 | Hhhhh | P2, P3? |
| 01:52.42 | maquis | 2400-s201... i think it's a p4-mobile |
| 01:53.04 | Hhhhh | p4 mobile is old? |
| 01:53.13 | maquis | older than my other bosen |
| 01:53.14 | maquis | er |
| 01:53.15 | maquis | boxen |
| 01:53.21 | Hhhhh | oh, gotcha |
| 01:53.30 | Hhhhh | lemme check it out, one sec |
| 01:54.50 | Hhhhh | how much ram and hdd? |
| 01:54.56 | Hhhhh | 256/30? |
| 01:54.59 | maquis | think so |
| 01:55.22 | maquis | no promises on whether i'll sell it... i've been really debating for a while... |
| 01:55.27 | maquis | but i might consider it :) |
| 01:55.31 | Hhhhh | hmm, I think you'll be way out of my range, what's your price? |
| 01:55.57 | maquis | http://linux.toshiba-dme.co.jp/linux/eng/spec.php3?model=PS240U-00U |
| 01:56.09 | brac | [Satellite 2400-S201, S202/2405-S201, S202 Specifications] |
| 01:56.16 | Lone_Wanderer | .cf and .mc - which is generated, which is hand written? |
| 01:56.41 | Lone_Wanderer | oh wait, I have a picture! |
| 01:56.43 | Lone_Wanderer | never mind |
| 01:56.49 | maquis | i never set one specifically.... i was thinking something over about 500, but i haven't done any research yet to see what it's actually worth |
| 01:57.03 | maquis | that could be completely off... |
| 01:57.29 | Hhhhh | k, I'll pass then. Thanks though |
| 01:57.33 | maquis | np |
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| 04:40.57 | findlay | hello |
| 04:41.02 | maquis | -lart findlay |
| 04:41.03 | maquis | :) |
| 04:41.06 | maquis | hello |
| 04:41.12 | findlay | sure |
| 04:41.18 | findlay | ~lart maquis |
| 04:45.35 | Lone_Wanderer | ~lart findlay |
| 04:45.46 | Lone_Wanderer | oh hey, that reminds me, I haven't had my ufie lately |
| 05:16.40 | mheath | http://www.thunderbird.seacadetsrmr152.org/THUNDERBIRD%20Graduation%20Division%20Pictures_files/image012.jpg |
| 05:18.32 | mheath | HUA, first platoon! |
| 05:30.15 | findlay | bedtime |
| 05:30.24 | maquis | findlay: early |
| 05:37.48 | tensai | I miss bucky |
| 05:47.07 | Newsome | liar |
| 05:48.11 | tensai | ~onjoin #utah bucky bucky: what?!? who let you back in? |
| 05:48.11 | ibot | ok, tensai |
| 06:00.20 | maquis | ~buckybot tensai |
| 06:00.27 | ibot | tensai: you're a stupid idiot, and I can tell you that all I want, but if you say anything mean to me, I'll start crying and insulting everything I can, because you're discriminating against me! |
| 06:01.17 | tensai | ah. it's like he's right here in this room |
| 06:01.25 | maquis | :) |
| 06:02.19 | Mecworks | Well, I was quoted in a zdnet UK article it seems... |
| 06:02.21 | Mecworks | http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39245577,00.htm |
| 06:02.26 | brac | [GNOME and KDE battle rages on - ZDNet UK News] |
| 06:03.21 | Mecworks | go figure... |
| 06:04.04 | tensai | "a blogger known as Mecworks"? that's some quality research |
| 06:05.08 | Mecworks | Yeah, no kidding - especially since I link to my resume in the right side column... |
| 06:05.14 | maquis | :) |
| 06:05.25 | maquis | maybe they didn't want to use your real name without permission? |
| 06:06.49 | Mecworks | well, they had plenty of opportunity to email me or even call me - it's all on my resume... |
| 06:07.02 | maquis | :) |
| 06:07.48 | Mecworks | Oh yeah, even more obvious, the article was written by "marc"... |
| 06:07.58 | tensai | wouldn't you like to know who you're quoting? what if it turns out that Mecworks is a hotdog thief? |
| 06:08.16 | maquis | a hotdog thief? |
| 06:08.21 | Mecworks | no kidding. |
| 06:08.42 | Mecworks | well, I guess there's worse things in the world to be than a hotdog theif. |
| 06:09.40 | tensai | like a reporter who can't do basic research :) |
| 06:09.54 | maquis | the programmer's desktop: evilwm! |
| 06:11.40 | tensai | ~spell thief |
| 06:12.21 | Mecworks | :) |
| 06:12.28 | maquis | :) |
| 06:16.46 | Mecworks | Ingrid Marson, the autor of the article: http://www.rulesofbackpacking.com/About_the_author.html |
| 06:16.47 | brac | [About the author] |
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| 06:22.36 | TimRiker | Mecworks: eek! DNS issues on ns. |
| 06:22.38 | TimRiker | ~seen Mecworks |
| 06:22.46 | ibot | mecworks is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 6m |
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| 06:23.58 | TimRiker | maquis: heh. Mecworks runs backup dns for me and the server seems to be having issues. |
| 06:24.05 | maquis | ah |
| 06:24.13 | maquis | ns == nameserver? |
| 06:24.33 | maquis | what kinds of issues? things not resolving? or what? |
| 06:26.14 | TimRiker | yeah, not resolving. |
| 06:26.26 | TimRiker | not picking up updates from my master, etc. |
| 06:26.32 | maquis | ah |
| 06:27.04 | maquis | does your nameserver just cover things within your network? or what? ie, why do you run your own nameserver? |
| 06:27.34 | TimRiker | I own rikers.org and quite a few other domains. |
| 06:27.42 | maquis | ah.. cool! |
| 06:29.43 | maquis | cool |
| 06:29.59 | maquis | i've run a couple linux distros so far on it, since august |
| 06:30.06 | maquis | i'm enjoying freebsd, though :) |
| 06:30.45 | TimRiker | "So, that was the bsaic install." opps. ;-) |
| 06:30.58 | maquis | haha :) |
| 06:31.09 | maquis | i'll remember to change that when i move things over |
| 06:31.37 | TimRiker | I'm setting up an image to be replicated to 100 machines or so. it has XP and suse 10 on it. |
| 06:31.54 | maquis | that's all running off a gentoo box that hasn't been updated since last april, so i think i'm going to reformatand stick something like fedora on it... |
| 06:32.00 | TimRiker | I'll likely install debian on mine though. that's the kind of guy I am. |
| 06:32.13 | maquis | i'm afraid to emerge -U world after leaving it un-updated for so long |
| 06:32.20 | maquis | fun |
| 06:32.24 | maquis | i've never tried suse |
| 06:32.35 | maquis | i tried debian, but i didn't get along very well with it |
| 06:32.45 | maquis | i am considering it for the server, though |
| 06:33.08 | maquis | either debian or fedora... |
| 06:33.22 | maquis | what makes you a debian guy? |
| 06:34.41 | TimRiker | I like debian because of the policies. things are always where you expect. things update better than any other distro I've tried. |
| 06:34.53 | maquis | ok |
| 06:34.57 | maquis | that sounds reasonable |
| 06:35.33 | TimRiker | another strong point is that packages are listed by the actual maintainer. so you don't have to go though tech support to find the person to discuss patches with. |
| 06:35.42 | maquis | mmk |
| 06:36.27 | TimRiker | I'm not a bigot though, debian is not the right distro for everyone. I like it, but you don't have to. ;-) |
| 06:36.33 | maquis | yeah |
| 06:36.39 | maquis | i'm not yet sure what i like bets |
| 06:36.54 | maquis | i'm really liking a lot of things about freebsd, although there is a lot to get used to when switching from linux |
| 06:37.05 | maquis | the main thing that has bugged me about a lot of distros is package-management |
| 06:37.38 | maquis | and in freebsd, i like the fact that there's both source-based and pkg-based management, and they're somewhat interchangeable |
| 06:37.47 | maquis | ie, you can pkg_delete something that you installed through ports |
| 06:38.08 | maquis | and when you add something from ports, it knows about the packages that you installed with pkg_add |
| 06:38.38 | maquis | it's not perfect, but it seems pretty cool so far |
| 06:38.39 | maquis | :) |
| 06:39.50 | maquis | i'm not as much of a fan of everything being under /usr/local (it took me about a minute to realize that the reason i couldn't find /etc/apache2/httpd.conf was because the apache configs would all be under /usr/local/etc instead of /etc |
| 06:39.54 | maquis | ) |
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| 06:46.40 | xbmodder | Hey, anyone know why digium equipment is so expensive |
| 06:48.11 | maquis | TimRiker: thanks for chatting... i'm off for a bit now... |
| 06:48.30 | maquis | hackers is supposed to be showing on tv, and i've never seen it, and my mom wants to see it, so i'm off to see that :) |
| 06:48.34 | maquis | should be fun |
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| 06:55.12 | TimRiker | me likes "Hackers" I think I have it on dvd. |
| 06:55.13 | Tene | xbmodder: it's expensive because you undervalue it. |
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| 10:15.31 | maquis | TimRiker: it was good... :) |
| 11:01.08 | TimRiker | =) |
| 11:01.10 | TimRiker | nite |
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| 13:55.57 | graphyx | morning |
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| 14:22.25 | findlay | -lart maquis |
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| 16:18.33 | sjansen | ibot! someone killed ibot! |
| 16:25.23 | sjansen | http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php <-- Looks like I should be on Fedora. |
| 16:25.24 | brac | [Linux Distribution Chooser [© 2005 - zegenie Studios]] |
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| 16:35.24 | harleypig | http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.11/bolero_pr.html |
| 16:39.44 | graphyx | harleypig: What is your current opinion of digis for businesses? |
| 16:39.44 | graphyx | Were most of your problems with them location based? |
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| 16:41.32 | harleypig | graphyx: no, most were company based. |
| 16:41.53 | harleypig | their suport was top notch, but they could only tell us what their engineers told them. |
| 16:42.24 | harleypig | graphyx: the biggest problem, I've come to realize, is that its the medium itself. |
| 16:42.46 | graphyx | harleypig: Would you recommend that we not get them at any price? |
| 16:43.06 | harleypig | unless, and until, we get a wide area mesh network wireless won't be reliable on a large scale. |
| 16:43.15 | graphyx | k thanks. |
| 16:43.32 | harleypig | graphyx: if you can get a wired solution (cable or dsl) go for that. |
| 16:43.33 | graphyx | The place where you were using digis was up in AF near the theater, right? |
| 16:43.37 | harleypig | right |
| 16:43.41 | graphyx | k thx |
| 16:44.00 | graphyx | What was your time frame of experience with them? |
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| 16:44.16 | graphyx | My boss wants to get digis and I don't want to deal with it if it was as bad as you say... |
| 16:44.19 | harleypig | 1 year. |
| 16:44.23 | graphyx | I just need some data to present to him. |
| 16:44.29 | graphyx | ( from when to when)? |
| 16:44.32 | harleypig | we had 5 outages in that time, 2 lasting more than a day. |
| 16:44.47 | harleypig | Jan 2005 to Dec 2005 |
| 16:44.50 | graphyx | Thanks |
| 16:45.45 | harleypig | welcome |
| 16:46.34 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.02 | harleypig | sjansen: you're a sick man |
| 16:47.23 | Hhhhh | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-694754540520188231 <== ROFL (work clean) |
| 16:47.24 | harleypig | one should be torturing kittens and eating puppies ... |
| 16:49.05 | graphyx | harleypig: Were you guys on the 1 Meg residential equivelant system or the 3 meg backbone canopy system using the motarola equipment? |
| 16:50.56 | harleypig | graphyx: the 3 meg ... that's the other thing ... we were limited to something like 10 GB transfer a mont |
| 16:51.12 | harleypig | if you have a lot of graphics (like we did) the overages will kill you. |
| 16:51.37 | harleypig | They had a 50GB transfer limit, but that dropped the rate by half. |
| 16:51.57 | harleypig | They may have changed (I read the poor tech the riot act when he told me that). |
| 16:52.17 | graphyx | harleypig: Ok thanks. |
| 16:52.20 | sjansen | http://www.technicat.com/writing/programming.html |
| 16:52.21 | brac | [Seven Habits of Highly Effective Programmers] |
| 16:52.24 | graphyx | We are aware of the download cap and such. |
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| 16:56.37 | sjansen | My question is: Where does the dailydancer guy get his bandwidth? |
| 17:10.38 | findlay | sweet. There's going to be a flame war, I know there is |
| 17:10.46 | findlay | ibot: make the flamewar start |
| 17:10.47 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `the flamewar start'. Stop. |
| 17:10.56 | findlay | make whatever |
| 17:11.15 | findlay | ibot: make uninstall |
| 17:11.16 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop. |
| 17:11.16 | levi | findlay: You referring to the reply-to munging email that just went out on plug? |
| 17:11.28 | harleypig | ibot: make love |
| 17:11.29 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `love'. Stop. |
| 17:11.31 | findlay | levi: yes |
| 17:11.34 | findlay | (: |
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| 17:11.58 | harleypig | ibot: make war |
| 17:12.00 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `war'. Stop. |
| 17:12.25 | findlay | ~make install -j24 |
| 17:12.27 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `install -j24'. Stop. |
| 17:12.47 | harleypig | ibot, you're supposed to say make love, not war when someone says make war. |
| 17:13.11 | harleypig | ibot: make everything work just right |
| 17:13.12 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `everything work just right'. Stop. |
| 17:13.22 | harleypig | ibot: reboot the universe |
| 17:13.25 | ibot | ACTION pushes the universe's reset button |
| 17:13.29 | harleypig | :D |
| 17:13.42 | harleypig | ibot: reboot me |
| 17:13.43 | ibot | ACTION pushes harleypig's reset button |
| 17:13.55 | harleypig | ibot: reboot sjansen |
| 17:13.57 | ibot | ACTION pushes sjansen's reset button |
| 17:14.00 | harleypig | cool |
| 17:15.05 | sjansen | ~reply-to munge harleypig |
| 17:17.46 | Tene | ~rate-limit sjansen |
| 17:28.48 | harleypig | nerfwar! |
| 17:29.11 | sjansen | ~narf harleypig |
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| 17:47.38 | harleypig | narf? |
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| 17:51.46 | harleypig | hah |
| 17:55.03 | tensai | harleypig: I don't think he even realizes |
| 17:57.42 | sjansen | harleypig: You've never watched Animaniacs? That's so sad. :-( |
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| 18:09.18 | harleypig | sjansen: I have, but it's been a while ... still don't recognize the reference. |
| 18:10.53 | sjansen | Gee, Brain, what should be do tonight? ... Narf! |
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| 18:24.44 | harleypig | sjansen: I don't remember it so unding like that ... |
| 18:25.15 | sjansen | It didn't. Pinky would just suddenly say narf for no apparent reason. |
| 18:26.44 | Jayce^ | it was his random spaz/tic/etc |
| 18:27.01 | spr | didn't he say 'zort' too? |
| 18:27.38 | ECS | poit Narf! |
| 18:28.03 | harleypig | sjansen: wikipedia supports you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinky_And_The_Brain |
| 18:33.19 | hans | sjansen probably made that entry |
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| 18:39.47 | harleypig | :] |
| 18:41.02 | harleypig | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pinky_and_the_Brain |
| 18:42.15 | Jayce^ | Are you pondering what I'm pondering? |
| 18:42.27 | Jayce^ | "I think so, Brain, but what if the hippopotamus won't wear the beach thong?" |
| 18:43.24 | harleypig | Jayce^: :D |
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| 18:45.53 | tensai | -lart hans |
| 18:47.45 | hans | ~cook tensai |
| 18:47.48 | ibot | ACTION throws tensai in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks tensai on 350 for an hour |
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| 18:56.47 | goozbach | WOW! 11TB of the SSS cd yesterday |
| 18:57.48 | Uncle_Jesse | goozbach: you should do a digg on that too :-) |
| 19:00.43 | mrpull- | 11TB... holy cow. Does that include all torrent traffic, or just your traffic? |
| 19:04.27 | goozbach | Total traffic |
| 19:04.41 | goozbach | 400+G of that is mine |
| 19:04.57 | goozbach | 9+TB is the xmission mirror |
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| 19:08.41 | lukfugl | any PHP experts lurking? |
| 19:08.50 | hans | I'm an expert at avoiding PHP |
| 19:08.58 | lukfugl | hans: heh |
| 19:09.01 | hans | but I have a PHP book, so maybe I could pretend to be an expert. |
| 19:09.17 | lukfugl | not likely, with this question |
| 19:10.07 | hans | I think it's Jayce^s favorite language. |
| 19:10.29 | lukfugl | heh |
| 19:11.42 | sjansen | lukfugl: Might as well just throw out the question. |
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| 19:13.38 | lukfugl | what's the difference between the --with-soap and --enable-soap flags when compiling php5? |
| 19:13.44 | lukfugl | particularly, I want to use SoapClient, which requires a php that was compiled with --enable-soap. Looking at phpinfo on the server, --with-soap is present but --enable-soap isn't. What's the differences? |
| 19:15.11 | hans | ah, this is really more a question for a psychic who knows how autotools works |
| 19:15.37 | hans | my guess is there's no difference, they just changed the "wording" |
| 19:18.38 | lukfugl | well, I'd be happy with that answer, except that SoapClient isn't working as advertised, and I want to make sure I've got the right setup before complaining in ##php :) |
| 19:24.21 | sjansen | Prof. Google is suggesting that you add extension=php_soap.dll to your php.ini (I'm betting that has to be translated to the correct extension.) |
| 19:25.18 | lukfugl | sjansen: also that I probably need to recompile php now. Since --with-soap is a bogus option that was just ignored yet saved for the phpinof() output |
| 19:25.24 | lukfugl | (just barely learned that in ##php) |
| 19:26.25 | sjansen | Maybe this is your chance to tell your boss that PHP destroyed the server and the only way to fix the problem is the switch to ruby or perl. |
| 19:29.35 | lukfugl | ~lart ##php |
| 19:31.01 | lukfugl | telling me that the answer should have been obvious by grepping the source tree of the php5 distribution. I mention, sure I know grep, but I'm not dealing with the source tree, I'm dealing with the output of phpinfo(). Oh, then you are lazy for not downloading the source from php.net/downloads and *then* grepping it (instead of asking someone else) |
| 19:31.57 | sjansen | lukfugl: well, you are |
| 19:32.18 | lukfugl | I *know* I could have done that, but figured asking would be quicker and not too much of a burden. They acted as if I had done *no* research, rather than googling all over php.net |
| 19:33.18 | lukfugl | If I'd known --with-soap was a bogus flag, it would have been another story. But since phpinfo() told me about it, I assumed it knew what it was talking about, rather than just regurgitating the garbage the sysadmin had put in |
| 19:33.39 | lukfugl | </rant> |
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| 19:43.56 | hans | lukfugl|away: there's a time to use the source. installation is not that time. you're not lazy |
| 19:44.20 | hans | And I'd become a jerk too if I were a ##php regular. :) |
| 19:44.41 | hans | imagine, dealing with PHP and PHP users both |
| 19:45.04 | findlay | ouch |
| 19:45.08 | findlay | my head hurts |
| 19:45.16 | findlay | I'd rather deal with Mozart |
| 19:45.18 | hans | sorry, findlay |
| 19:47.02 | sjansen | php developers are very good and redesigning wheels, so it doesn't surprise me |
| 19:58.52 | tensai | stripslashes(sjansen); |
| 19:59.16 | sjansen | addslashes(tensai) |
| 20:00.06 | tensai | htmlspecialchars(sjansen); |
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| 20:08.21 | Jayce^ | becauseeverythingshouldbeatoplevelfunction() |
| 20:10.19 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone else a UT (as in University of Texas, not Utah) fan in here? |
| 20:11.25 | tensai | hans: reply-to |
| 20:11.27 | sjansen | Jayce^: True, but I think the more damning accusation implicity in those functions is a completely brain-dead database API. |
| 20:11.42 | hans | tensai: really? sweet |
| 20:11.45 | sjansen | ~lart tensai for stealing hans' fun |
| 20:11.46 | hans | but maybe I should stay away |
| 20:11.58 | graphyx | hans: It's like the leftover casaroll dish, if the letters start to crawl all over the screen, just throw it away. |
| 20:12.08 | tensai | hans: you should read it. you'll never believe the ending. |
| 20:12.32 | sjansen | Oo! Suspense! |
| 20:13.11 | sjansen | hans: Don't bother. The butler did it in the library with an old 21" CRT. |
| 20:13.35 | tensai | Colonel Panic in the Linked Library, with the Named Pipe |
| 20:14.07 | tensai | http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df9707/df970710.jpg |
| 20:17.55 | graphyx | That's bad tensai |
| 20:18.13 | tensai | I laughed for a week when I first saw it |
| 20:19.07 | sjansen | tensai: You shouldn't have included the link. I was about to be amazed by your wit, but now I just think you spend too much time surfing the net. |
| 20:22.28 | hans | not quite like reading a good novel, but it did end in a warm and fuzzy "what's this world coming to" |
| 20:22.58 | hans | Uncle_Jesse: if it weren't for you, I'd have a hard time believing it if there were texas fans in here |
| 20:24.24 | tensai | I'm sure humble ole mhalcrow would have a thing or two to say about texas |
| 20:28.11 | Uncle_Jesse | he's probably extatic :-) |
| 20:28.29 | Uncle_Jesse | there are Texas fans everywhere - you can't escape! |
| 20:28.41 | Uncle_Jesse | unless mhalcrow's an Aggie fan |
| 20:29.05 | graphyx | Uncle_Jesse: They said he would have something to say. Never said it would be favorable.. ;) |
| 20:37.51 | sjansen | ~boo Texas |
| 20:37.53 | ibot | Boo! Hiss! Texas is pure filth! Boo! |
| 20:38.47 | Uncle_Jesse | ~whaleslap sjansen |
| 20:38.48 | ibot | I'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap sjansen over the head with it..... |
| 20:38.57 | Uncle_Jesse | ~jealous sjansen |
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| 21:01.46 | SpecialZ_ | Uncle_Jesse, I'm planning on getting a masters there. |
| 21:02.03 | SpecialZ_ | at UT that is, but I'll still be a BYU fan. |
| 21:02.36 | Uncle_Jesse | SpecialZ_: I'm a BYU fan, but it doesn't mean I can't root for UT while BYU can't even win a lower bowl game :-) |
| 21:08.18 | goozbach | ~cyberhack sjansen |
| 21:08.33 | goozbach | ~ghosthack sjansen |
| 21:08.34 | ibot | ACTION plugs into sjansen's cyberbrain and gets busy |
| 21:11.57 | Uncle_Jesse | ~cyberchase sjansen |
| 21:14.02 | tensai | o/~ cyberchase, we're moving. we're beating Hacker at his game ~/o |
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| 22:04.42 | TimRiker | ibot: onjoin _default -timriker |
| 22:04.43 | ibot | ok, TimRiker |
| 22:19.08 | Bradipo | Looks like the plug server has a full filesystem: |
| 22:19.24 | Bradipo | Connected_to_63.108.71.2 |
| 22:19.24 | Bradipo | 11_but_sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:_452_Insufficient_system_storage |
| 22:19.30 | Jayce^ | Bradipo, yes, hans is working on it right now |
| 22:19.34 | Bradipo | Cool. |
| 22:19.39 | tensai | ~zap hans |
| 22:19.42 | ibot | ACTION takes out a cattle prod and gives hans a good jolt. |
| 22:19.53 | Bradipo | Guess this last thread put the server over the top eh? :-) |
| 22:19.54 | Jayce^ | it's LVM so he's gaining space quick, but it has tiny disks, so we do need more |
| 22:20.05 | Jayce^ | hehe :) just gotta post mentioning that |
| 22:20.28 | hans | just as quick as I can google^H^H^H^H^H^Hremember how to steal space from /usr |
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| 22:21.45 | Bradipo | What kind and how big are the disks? |
| 22:21.51 | Bradipo | Or disk. :-) |
| 22:22.05 | Jayce^ | the two in it are scsi, and like 6 gb IIRC |
| 22:26.19 | graphyx | Install the GoogleFS on it. |
| 22:26.23 | graphyx | and get like 4 email account. |
| 22:26.28 | graphyx | That should be enough space for it. |
| 22:26.32 | graphyx | And it will grow with time. |
| 22:27.06 | tensai | hans: rm -fr /home/jayce/warez |
| 22:29.00 | goozbach | tensai: if he really wants to free up space: rm -rf /home/jayce/pr0n |
| 22:29.12 | graphyx | don't forget the: rm -rf /home/jayce/pr0n |
| 22:29.23 | graphyx | goozbach: you stole my joke! |
| 22:29.38 | graphyx | ~zap goozbach |
| 22:29.40 | ibot | ACTION takes out a cattle prod and gives goozbach a good jolt. |
| 22:31.39 | graphyx | he has a point. |
| 22:31.54 | goozbach | yeah, han's is in your homedir |
| 22:32.01 | goozbach | your's in in /home/hans |
| 22:32.22 | Bradipo | And puts it in nifty names like /home/gooz/.-= W4r3z =-. |
| 22:33.36 | Jayce^ | nah, -rf / is a good name |
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| 22:38.16 | graphyx | Jayce^: That's an evil name. |
| 22:38.47 | graphyx | When I run across files with "special" names I always confirm what I am rm'ing by ls'ing it first. |
| 22:39.12 | hans | Jayce^: does that thing take IDE? or only SCSI? |
| 22:40.51 | Jayce^ | iirc it does take IDE too |
| 22:44.48 | graphyx | I think PLUG should have a pizza night. |
| 22:44.55 | graphyx | Have a hardware pizza swap night. |
| 22:45.04 | graphyx | Left over stuff would just be throw to the plug server. |
| 22:45.12 | graphyx | I don't mean the pizza.. |
| 22:45.34 | hans | that would be a neat ceremony |
| 22:45.53 | jsmith | I've got a full-height 9GB scsi drive I'd donate... |
| 22:47.04 | graphyx | You could just go to pizza doc's buffet for an all you can eat event. |
| 22:48.16 | tensai | hans: what's the scsi interface on the box? |
| 22:48.57 | hans | it's an hp server iirc |
| 22:49.10 | hans | grey and slate blue, in any case. ;-) |
| 22:49.17 | hans | Jayce^ is actually in physical proximity, ask him |
| 22:50.18 | SpecialZ_ | Leftover pizza? is that possible? |
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| 22:58.32 | goozbach | SpecialZ_: if so, it doesn't stay that way |
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| 23:13.34 | tensai | fyi, wine is not vulnerable to the recent WMF exploit. I knew you guys would be worried sick, so I checked. |
| 23:14.26 | jsmith | Thanks tensai |
| 23:14.35 | jsmith | tensai: You know I was losing sleep over it, right? |
| 23:14.55 | tensai | jsmith: I could tell from the way you were talking incoherently :) |
| 23:16.43 | jsmith | tensai: I incoherently talk always. |
| 23:17.05 | jsmith | tensai: Just its that I'm not as think as you dumb I am. |
| 23:17.27 | tensai | I hope he's gone to take a nap |
| 23:17.52 | tensai | hmm. I wonder what onjoin does for nick changes... |
| 23:18.08 | tensai | ~onjoin #utah jsmith jsmith: have a good nap? |
| 23:18.08 | ibot | tensai: ok |
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| 23:35.12 | jsmith | tensai: Doesn't work when I just change my nick back :-) |
| 23:35.18 | tensai | guess not |
| 23:35.26 | tensai | ~onjoin #utah -jsmith |
| 23:35.26 | ibot | tensai: ok |
| 23:39.51 | Bradipo | Quick mysql question... |
| 23:40.04 | Bradipo | When installing mysql it says to run mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password' |
| 23:40.15 | Bradipo | It also says to run the same command specifying the host with -h... |
| 23:40.23 | Bradipo | Do the two commands set different passwords? |
| 23:40.41 | Bradipo | i.e. does root have a different password when connecting via -h and a hostname than it does without? |
| 23:42.28 | Bradipo | The reason I ask is because I was able to run the first, but the second complained with: error: 'Host 'blah' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server' |
| 23:42.48 | Bradipo | So it appears to not allow root to connect from the host. |
| 23:44.03 | jsmith | Bradipo: In short, the "user" table in the "mysql" database controls who can connect to the server, and from what hosts. |
| 23:44.05 | Bradipo | I suppose I will have to grant access to root... |
| 23:44.21 | Bradipo | Or alter root's entry. |
| 23:44.25 | jsmith | Exactly. |
| 23:44.53 | Bradipo | Which database must I use to get to user? |
| 23:45.12 | Bradipo | Oh. |
| 23:45.19 | Bradipo | Doh, you just said ``mysql'' :-) |
| 23:45.59 | Bradipo | Man, the user table has a lot of fields. |
| 23:46.14 | Bradipo | Not even a tiny font xterm fits them all on one row. |
| 23:46.19 | Bradipo | Without wrapping. |
| 23:46.58 | Bradipo | Hmm. |
| 23:47.01 | Bradipo | I wonder... |
| 23:47.14 | Bradipo | root already has access from host.fqdn |
| 23:47.32 | Bradipo | But the error I'm getting is simply ``Host 'blah' is not allowed.'' |
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| 23:47.43 | Bradipo | So, I wonder why it isn't getting the FQDN. |
| 23:48.07 | Bradipo | hostname returns the FQDN. |
| 23:49.33 | jsmith | First, try typing "FLUSH PRIVILEGES" at the mysql cli |
| 23:49.48 | jsmith | If that doesn't fix it, then there really is a problem |
| 23:50.24 | Bradipo | Well, I suspect it is because it thinks I am connecting from `host' and not `host.domain.dom' |
| 23:50.43 | Bradipo | Or it would have said `host.domain.dom' is not allowed. |
| 23:51.39 | Bradipo | I guess I'll have to add `host' to the table as well. |
| 23:52.11 | Bradipo | jsmith: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. |
| 23:53.16 | jsmith | Bradipo: Glad I can help... |
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