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00:10.02xbmodderAnyone know why my sipura (after one digit) pauses and starts to BEEP
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02:18.31maquishttp://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060102-5877.html
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03:39.34hanslevi: 17.45V across a car battery is too many, right?
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06:11.45mrpull-xwhat's up all?
06:27.27maquismrpull-x: not much.. you?
06:27.49fishyfirehttp://webdev-bkst.byu.edu:8080/swoopBoot/bootSwoop.html
06:27.50brac[bootSwoop]
06:28.42maquisfishyfire: is that hte one where you get to kick the bird?
06:28.46fishyfireyep
06:28.53maquis:)
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07:43.20mheathHUA.
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08:30.31xbmodder_lappyhey
08:30.32xbmodder_lappysup all
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14:06.59graphyxmorning
14:53.37graphyxOk I put in a .vimrc file, but it doesn't appear to be taking, any other steps that I need to do other than put it in my /home/user folder?
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15:29.23dataw0lftry -u
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16:25.47elgi want to get some ram for my ibook. any suggestions, or anyone selling?
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16:58.01jebarping elg
16:58.11jebarelg sametime?
17:00.58graphyxpong
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17:04.51TimRikertensai: onjoin should handle <action> items too. and probably <reply>
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17:09.50tensaiTimRiker: do I need to check for a message beginning with '<action>' or '<reply>' then?
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17:24.08TimRikertensai: yeah. I've been thinking it might be easier to just do a factoid like "onjoin _default timriker" is <reply> foo and look in the factoids table. Might want to modify the factoid locking to do the ops tests etc. it would allow all the factoid searching, editing etc to work. it's a trade off.
17:27.30TimRikertensai: the current onjoin only allows editing in channel for example so dcc/chat edits don't work (hmm at least I'm not sure what they would do)
17:28.42tensaiyeah, I can see your point. I'm adding support for specifying channel, which will help. "onjoin [#chan] <nick> [msg]"
17:29.00tensaiit seemed so simple when I started :)
17:29.40TimRikeralso onjoin does not add in lower case so I get:
17:29.57TimRikerINSERT INTO onjoin VALUES('TimRiker','#botpark','Hmm. I can''t seem to delete OnJoin messages. FIXME!');
17:30.02TimRikerINSERT INTO onjoin VALUES('timriker','#botpark','Oh, My Master. I better be good now.');
17:30.41TimRikerthat's from a dump (obviously)
17:32.01tensaishoot. I lowercase the nick when replying but not when adding.
17:58.31TimRikeribot: onjoin timriker
17:58.35TimRikeribot: onjoin tensai
17:58.43TimRikeribot: onjoin
17:59.06TimRikertensai: seems lookups are broken too.
17:59.29TimRikeribot: onjoin timriker Oh, My Master. I better be good now.
17:59.29ibotTimRiker: ok
17:59.38TimRikertensai: now try to look that up.
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18:00.23tensai~onjoin timriker
18:00.23ibottensai: Hey tensai. You need to add a method to remove OnJoin messages. It would be nice to match _default to display in all channels as well.
18:00.50tensaiTimRiker: aaaaah! my beautiful code is a monster.
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18:07.57TimRikertensai: =)
18:08.28TimRikeribot: onjoin tensai
18:08.28ibotTimRiker: Oh, My Master. I better be good now.
18:09.47tensaihere's the problem: $nick = $who if (!$nick);
18:09.51tensaiibot: onjoin
18:09.51ibottensai: Hey tensai. You need to add a method to remove OnJoin messages. It would be nice to match _default to display in all channels as well.
18:10.06tensaiwhy isn't $nick getting set though?
18:10.46tensaiibot: onjoin tensai I can't believe you broke me! Fix me NOW!!!
18:10.46ibottensai: ok
18:15.29tensaiibot: onjoin TimRiker
18:15.29ibottensai: I can't believe you broke me! Fix me NOW!!!
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18:26.57xbmodder_lappylol
18:27.18xbmodder_lappyAnyone want speakeasy?
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18:34.17goozbach~seen sjansen
18:34.29ibotsjansen <n=sjansen@adsl-69-227-135-120.dsl.renocs.nvbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 2d 19h 49m 30s ago, saying: 'lars-ut-away: you can't pm if you haven't identified yourself to nickserv'.
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18:51.36mheathHUA, hans :)
18:52.08xbmodder_lappymheath, how was training
18:52.22mheathGood.
18:52.59hansHUA?
18:53.02hansjebar: pong
18:53.47mheathWow
19:00.38scottI just got a new system at work and I'm trying to see if there's a way to hook up two monitors to it
19:01.03scottdo you have to have two video adapter ports on the computer to do that, or is there some way to do it with one of these digital video ports?
19:01.41scottor, I don't know what kind of video port is, but it's not the old one that looks like a serial with more pins
19:05.11hansdvi
19:05.17hansdo you have a dvi port and a vga port?
19:05.50hansor just one of them?
19:06.04scottjust one
19:06.07hansI've seen nvidia cards that have a dvi output and with a splitter can do dual-monitor
19:06.17hanscheck the docs on your card
19:07.28scottso with a splitter it was able to do different content on each display, not just the same thing?
19:14.31hansyup
19:14.43hansbut such a splitter probably would come with the card
19:15.03hansnaturally, the card would have to support it.
19:15.54scottin windows display settings it shows two monitors but with one faded out
19:16.06scottis that common?
19:16.24hansthat makes it sound like your card supports two monitors
19:16.37hansso you probably just need to get your hands on one of those splitter things. is it an nvidia card?
19:16.56hansor do you have two cards? (one built-in perhaps)
19:18.01scottI only see one video port on the back
19:20.31scottI don't think so, it says Intel 82945G Express Chipset
19:26.38xbmodder_lappyhey
19:34.09goozbachssh-agent roxors
19:34.15goozbachjust thought I'd share
20:32.43mheathHua is Hua, hans ;-)
20:32.44mheathdoh
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20:41.55goozbachibot: onjoin sjansen sjansen goozbach is looking for you... you may want to hide.
20:41.55ibotok, goozbach
20:42.27ECShaven't seen that one before
20:45.45tensaiECS: that's because I just wrote it. naturally, it's still buggy
20:46.54goozbachtensai: am I going to be able to erase that when I'm done with it?
20:46.57goozbach:)
20:46.58harleypiggoozbach: is that function publicly available?
20:47.07harleypigerr ... I guess, tensai then?
20:47.14goozbachharleypig: it looks like it
20:47.19goozbachI just did
20:47.26harleypigibot: onjoin harleypi* OINK!
20:47.26ibotharleypig: ok
20:47.33tensaigoozbach: nope. that functionality is still sitting on my laptop :)
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20:47.42tensaiharleypig: sorry, no wildcards
20:47.45goozbachwe'll see when sjasen shows up
20:47.59harleypigtensai: ah ... so how do I erase that and do it right?
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20:48.06ibotok, harleypig
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20:48.20harleypigcool.
20:48.22tensaiharleypig: for now there's no erase, just overwrite
20:48.38harleypigI guess wildcards could get a little dangerous.
20:48.48tensaiand soon there will be actions
20:49.14harleypigalthough onjoin * $1 has just joined the channel! could be useful.
20:49.19harleypigand anoying
20:52.43hans-lart vontrapp
20:53.00hansany car gurus?
20:55.19tensaiwhy do I have a bunch of .dir and .pag files sprinkled around my filesystem?
20:57.29tensaithey're related to bdb, near as I can tell. no idea why they showed up in seamingly random locations.
20:58.54goozbachwhat does GAM server do?
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20:59.54harleypigIt serves up nice gams?
21:00.59bonez39if I have the folder /etc/udev does that necessarily mean I am running udev?
21:01.23bonez39I run kernel 2.6.8 but thought I needed a higher kernel level to run udev
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21:07.22tensai~gam $harleypig is <action> serves up a nice GAM to $harleypig
21:07.23ibotokay, tensai
21:15.07hansbonez39: no and yes
21:15.22hansthat is, you need better than 2.6.8 to run the latest version of udev
21:15.34hansbut older versions of udev will work with any 2.6 kernel
21:18.06graphyxhans: What car problem are you having?
21:19.03hansit's a long charging system saga. my current question is, if the alternator is producing the right charging voltage (abt 14.6V) but my battery light is still on, what could be the problem?
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21:23.16bonez39hans, how about that crap that comes up with 'apt-get update' about signature verification?
21:23.26bonez39if i upgrad my udev and kernel, will that stuff go away?
21:23.35hansno
21:23.41hansjust ignore it
21:23.53bonez39ok.....
21:24.02hansI'm not sure what they were thinking, or how to fix it, but it will work itself out sooner or later
21:28.57bonez39as for the light...on your dash...it's similar..if the batter is charged up..and your electrical system seems to be working and doesn't run the battery down, it's just an idiot light issue.....with a short......or fault
21:31.50hanscould be. I think the battery is fried though. it was stone-cold dead this morning (I replaced the alternator yesterday), and lost a few tenths of a volt sitting for about an hour
21:33.27hansthe light goes off when I put a lot of load on it (heater, wipers, radio, a/c, lights)
21:33.46hansalso goes off briefly when I put in the clutch (when the rpms dip below 1k briefly)
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21:36.41sjansengoozbach: I will never bow before your evil will!!!
21:37.02bonez39hmmm sounds like it isn't holding a charge..how old is the battery?
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21:42.33hansprobably time for a change, but it's been no problem until now
21:43.09hansI've never had a battery problem on this car, we've left the lights on once or twice but it started right up
21:43.29hansbut I think I may have fried it with all this alternator fun
21:46.00jlp_workhans: voltage regulator?  usually it's integrated in the alternator these days, but older cars had separate units
21:46.08jlp_workdid you put in a new alternator?
21:46.13hansin the alternator
21:46.25hansand I would hope it's working, as it's a new alternator
21:46.43hansbut yesterday when I saw 17.5 volts (I can't reproduce it today) I was suspicous of it
21:46.56hansthat may have been related to my forgetting to plug the cruise control actuator back in
21:48.35jlp_workhave you gone through the troubleshooting book for your car?
21:49.17hansi've pretty much memorized the relevant sections of the chilton manual, if that's what you mean
21:50.08jlp_workthere are books put out by someone called "Motors" that I've found useful trouble shooting my failing electronic brake control module on my van
21:50.18jlp_workin the reference section at the library
22:03.51graphyxhans: That is a good question.  Could it be that the battery voltage is low?  
22:05.05graphyxsounds like others have said that part already.
22:13.43goozbachwhat is the antithesis of basename?
22:17.09sjansendirname
22:18.37sjansenHa! I disturbed goozbach by suggesting that I shower under the office water cooler.
22:23.16hanswhy? he's never in the office
22:23.44hansso my battery was falling in charge, but now I unhooked the negative terminal and it hasn't fallen in charge in the last half hour
22:24.07hansI think everything is pointing to a bad alternator, but it's almost getting too late today to change it. grr
22:24.16hans-lart autozone
22:35.42harleypighttp://www.boingboing.net/2006/01/03/bizarre_selfreferent.html
22:35.44harleypigWork safe.
22:54.51harleypiganyone familiar with image maps in html can give me a helping hand?
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23:03.32goozbachharleypig: use the gimp's imagemap plugin
23:03.48goozbachit's all I've ever done
23:08.56harleypiggoozbach: Don't have access to gimp on the server I'm working on.
23:09.13harleypigI'm using GD::Graph, trying to convert get_hotspot output to image map values.
23:09.28goozbachohh
23:09.33goozbachNM then
23:09.51harleypig:D easy enough, except it's returning the data as 'line' ... was wondering if I could make a line using polygon
23:10.20harleypigor else I'll probably have to calculate the 4 corners based on the line and width and use rect that way.
23:11.53harleypigohhh ... I'm an idiot ... I was thinking it was going to be a pita to calculate that ... but I've got the starting and ending points and the width ... just subtract half the width from each y point for the bottom corners and add half the width for the top corners.
23:11.58harleypig*sigh*
23:13.10harleypigbut it'd still have to be a polygon, because it's not really a rectangle.
23:35.32goozbachhttp://www.slummites.org/prettz/_temp/ultimateshowdown.swf
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