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| 02:26.03 | maquis | hans: i'll do that next time i'm on their computer :) |
| 02:26.38 | goozbach | lets hear it for "going back for more" |
| 02:27.59 | maquis | -ruler goozbach |
| 02:28.01 | maquis | er |
| 02:28.06 | maquis | ~ruler goozbach |
| 02:28.12 | ibot | ACTION slaps goozbach's wrists with a ruler |
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| 03:27.56 | maquis | gah |
| 03:28.25 | maquis | why isn't vim auto-detecting what kind of file i'm doing? |
| 03:28.34 | maquis | it's a .c file, so you'd think it'd be obvious |
| 03:28.45 | Tene | does it work on other files? |
| 03:28.55 | hans | what's its name? |
| 03:29.05 | maquis | not c or cpp... |
| 03:29.22 | maquis | .tex seems to work, but i've got a special entry for .tex files in my vimrc |
| 03:29.35 | hans | vim usually goes off filename |
| 03:29.52 | RyanE_ | apparently. |
| 03:30.09 | maquis | hans: yeah... that's what i thought it would do |
| 03:30.14 | maquis | it's not recognizing java files either |
| 03:30.21 | Tene | filetype plugin on? |
| 03:30.26 | RyanE | and why are you complaining that a C file that doesn't end with c or cpp doesn't work? |
| 03:30.59 | maquis | RyanE: vim isn't syntax-hilighting a .c or .cpp or .java file |
| 03:31.11 | maquis | filetype plugin indent on |
| 03:31.13 | RyanE | so even if the filename is right then? |
| 03:31.15 | maquis | ^^^ in my .vimrc |
| 03:31.16 | Tene | syntax on? |
| 03:31.18 | maquis | RyanE: yup |
| 03:31.23 | maquis | Tene: tried that |
| 03:31.31 | RyanE | OS? |
| 03:32.44 | maquis | RyanE: freebsd |
| 03:32.50 | maquis | it's also not using the font i told it to |
| 03:33.13 | RyanE | gvim, or vim? |
| 03:33.36 | maquis | gvim |
| 03:34.02 | RyanE | well, there's your problem there... *real* programmers use vim over an SSH connection. :) |
| 03:34.20 | maquis | well, it's not over an ssh connection, so i like to use gvim :) |
| 03:34.25 | RyanE | *especially* for C files. |
| 03:34.38 | maquis | http://tuxgirl.com/.vimrc |
| 03:34.47 | maquis | it's the same .vimrc i used before.... |
| 03:36.27 | maquis | is there someplace i need to tell it where all the syntax files are? |
| 03:36.56 | RyanE | that .vimrc works fine for my vim, editing C files. |
| 03:37.05 | RyanE | other than the spastic line numbers... :) |
| 03:37.12 | maquis | it worked for me before i reformatted... |
| 03:37.17 | maquis | but now, it doesn't seem to like anything |
| 03:37.52 | maquis | weirdness |
| 03:38.01 | maquis | it works if it's an old file, but not for new files |
| 03:38.15 | maquis | and it won't give me the font i want |
| 03:38.37 | RyanE | sorry, no help here, other than it can't find 'MyColorScheme', but I assume yours exists. :) |
| 03:38.49 | maquis | yeah |
| 04:25.53 | lars-ut | anybody used mondoarchive with lvm for bare metal backup & restore? |
| 04:50.12 | tensai | lars-ut: never with lvm, no. used it without to good success, though |
| 04:51.15 | lars-ut | tensai: with which filesystem ? |
| 04:52.13 | tensai | lars-ut: ext2, ext3 and reiser |
| 04:52.21 | lars-ut | thx |
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| 05:06.39 | tensai | ~erase hans |
| 05:14.28 | maquis | RyanE: it was stupidity on my part, btw |
| 05:16.18 | tensai | maquis: and that was a surprise? |
| 05:16.30 | maquis | tensai: :'( |
| 05:16.47 | tensai | maquis: hey, I see all those failed password attempts on joanna |
| 05:17.00 | maquis | tensai: erm... yeah |
| 05:17.20 | maquis | that's just an inability to type (or to get confused as to where i'm logging in) |
| 05:20.49 | maquis | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051230-5871.html |
| 05:21.30 | maquis | ^^^ unfortunately, not shocking, but still very bad news |
| 05:22.02 | maquis | This is a 15-year-old girl, telling the story of how lawyers of a major industry group told her she had to commit perjury, just so they could win their case. Some might call that racketeering, and it's most certainly a highly illegal way to win a court case. The deposition strongly suggests that the RIAA knew they didn't have a leg to stand on, and that they were perfectly happy to do anything in their power to win anyway. Funny how rather than open their ow |
| 05:26.57 | RyanE | maquis: what was the problem with vim then? |
| 05:27.32 | RyanE | c'mon. I'm sure I've done stupider things... |
| 05:27.38 | RyanE | not always computer-related, either. :) |
| 05:28.02 | maquis | ummm... apparently i had to type a couple words before it would start doing the syntax-hilighting, and i wasn't typing far enough... |
| 05:28.17 | RyanE | so this was a *new* file? |
| 05:28.30 | maquis | yeah |
| 05:28.39 | maquis | that's why the existing files worked fine |
| 05:28.43 | RyanE | aha. |
| 05:28.49 | RyanE | well, at least that makes sense. |
| 05:29.21 | maquis | i kicked myself when i realized that |
| 05:29.42 | RyanE | I lit a small sealed glass medicine bottle 1/5th full of gunpowder (and other things) alight with a magnifying glass. much stupider. |
| 05:29.54 | maquis | zipes! |
| 05:30.05 | maquis | that was unintentional, right? |
| 05:30.14 | RyanE | esp. since I was about 10 inches from it at the time. |
| 05:30.22 | RyanE | no, intentional. I was about 10 at the time. :) |
| 05:30.32 | RyanE | like I said, I've done something stupider. |
| 05:30.39 | maquis | did you end up ok? |
| 05:30.49 | maquis | i mean.. .did you get hurt? |
| 05:30.55 | RyanE | small bits of glass went through my shirt into my stomach, but I pulled them out and was fine. |
| 05:31.02 | maquis | boys |
| 05:31.10 | RyanE | if my eyes had been at that level... I shudder to think... |
| 05:31.23 | RyanE | yeah, we used to make our own firecrackers. |
| 05:31.43 | RyanE | another of the things I'm forbidden by the wife to tell my children. :) |
| 05:31.56 | maquis | i can understand why |
| 05:31.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah - anyone have a moment to help me with some C? (I'm just starting) |
| 05:32.05 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: depends how basic |
| 05:32.10 | RyanE | ScytheBlade1: we can try. what's up? |
| 05:32.15 | ScytheBlade1 | very very basic. linked lists |
| 05:32.25 | RyanE | Mmmmm... Pointers... |
| 05:32.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I tried ##c but got the, quote, "there's no value in my holding your hand" response |
| 05:32.36 | ScytheBlade1 | *me |
| 05:32.38 | ScytheBlade1 | http://rafb.net/paste/results/JBr72F20.html |
| 05:33.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm quite certain that to anyone know knows what they're doing |
| 05:33.23 | ScytheBlade1 | they'll see the error quickly ;) |
| 05:34.05 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: what's the error it's giving you? |
| 05:34.23 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not giving me an error, but on the final output loop.... oh |
| 05:34.25 | ScytheBlade1 | one sec :P |
| 05:35.10 | ScytheBlade1 | node = root->next; <-- haha I'm a moron |
| 05:35.38 | RyanE | yeah... that'd do it. :) |
| 05:36.05 | maquis | yup |
| 05:36.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, yes it would ;) |
| 05:36.24 | RyanE | so apparently, we CAN'T help you with some simple C... you figured it out too fast. |
| 05:36.24 | maquis | see... we didn't even have to do the problem-solving for you :) |
| 05:36.30 | RyanE | jinx! |
| 05:36.39 | maquis | :-P |
| 05:36.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That's mostly because a really nice guy from ##c PM'd me and told me to look at that line :P |
| 05:37.07 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: well... now you know where to look next time :) |
| 05:37.20 | RyanE | fun when there's NO problem with your linked list code, but with the print code. |
| 05:37.21 | ScytheBlade1 | But suffice it to say I'll be in and out with many retaded questions, haha |
| 05:37.38 | RyanE | there's no such thing as retaded questions, only retarded questioners. :) |
| 05:37.57 | maquis | question: will fopen have problems with a file that can't stat()? |
| 05:37.58 | lars-ut | so much for my end of the year bare metal backup of the lvm system |
| 05:38.01 | ScytheBlade1 | "There is no such thing as a stupid question, but there sure are a lot of inquisitve idiots" <-- one of my favorites |
| 05:38.16 | lars-ut | ~emulate Ms Bitters |
| 05:38.18 | ibot | The lesson here is that dreams inevitably lead to hideous implosions. |
| 05:38.40 | RyanE | maquis: why can it not stat()? |
| 05:39.12 | maquis | erm.... because freebsd follows the rules better than linux... and the file was made in linux, and i'm trying to get to it in freebsd |
| 05:39.44 | RyanE | Happy New Year, lars-ut. |
| 05:39.47 | maquis | happy new year to you too lars-ut |
| 05:40.31 | RyanE | maquis: really only one way to tell. try it. I would suppose that it depends on the reason that stat() is failing. |
| 05:41.02 | maquis | RyanE: stat() is failing because the file is longer than freebsd thinks that the file is allowed to be |
| 05:41.37 | RyanE | 'allowed to be'? by the filesystem? |
| 05:41.48 | maquis | yup |
| 05:42.00 | RyanE | but it *is* the longer length? |
| 05:42.27 | maquis | ok... when i was in linux, i burned a dvd with a bunch of tarballs |
| 05:42.34 | maquis | one of those tarballs is 2.4 GB |
| 05:42.51 | maquis | however, technically, the iso9660 (or whatever) format only allows files up to 2GB |
| 05:43.14 | maquis | linux ignores this rule (somehow) and creates files of whatever size, so long as they will fit on the disk |
| 05:43.14 | RyanE | ok. |
| 05:43.36 | maquis | freebsd won't read files > 2GB from a iso9660 filesystem... |
| 05:43.48 | maquis | so, i'm trying to get the tarball off the dvd another way |
| 05:43.53 | ScytheBlade1 | that's mkisofs allowing it, not linux in general, and there's options to make the ISO more..'compliant' |
| 05:44.21 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: perhaps, but i actually need to make it less compliant right now |
| 05:44.52 | RyanE | maquis: I would bet that fopen would still open it, but I'm really FreeBSD ignorant. |
| 05:44.59 | maquis | RyanE: mmk |
| 05:45.00 | RyanE | give it a try. What can it hurt to try? |
| 05:45.04 | RyanE | mmk? |
| 05:46.10 | maquis | mmk is like ok |
| 05:46.26 | ScytheBlade1 | think 'mmkay' verbally |
| 05:46.27 | maquis | just i tend to say mmk more often :) |
| 05:46.28 | RyanE | seems pretty inefficient to type mmk instead of ok. |
| 05:46.57 | maquis | possibly, but it's what i say in person more, so.... |
| 05:48.08 | RyanE | aha. |
| 05:49.00 | ScytheBlade1 | compared to 'okay', 'mmk' is though ;) |
| 05:53.05 | maquis | RyanE: question for you: i just did a practice-run on another file, and i've got a weird symptom: |
| 05:53.37 | maquis | instead of the two files coming out identical, the from-file has a newline at the end, and the to-file has a y with two dots on the top at the end |
| 05:53.47 | maquis | ÿ |
| 05:54.47 | maquis | same problem on another file |
| 06:00.01 | maquis | RyanE: nm |
| 06:00.46 | amcnabb | Happy Central New Year! |
| 06:01.04 | maquis | happy new year amcnabb |
| 06:01.45 | RyanE | hny, amc |
| 06:02.41 | RyanE | maquis: might be faster to boot up a Linux box, read it off, and copy it over. :) |
| 06:02.54 | RyanE | fire up Knoppix on a roommate's computer if you have to. |
| 06:02.57 | maquis | RyanE: this is a matter of principle... i shouldn't *need* to do that |
| 06:03.01 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're desperate, dd might work also |
| 06:03.11 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: dd won't work at all |
| 06:03.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Why not? |
| 06:03.39 | RyanE | does dd stat the file first? |
| 06:03.46 | maquis | [amon-re /root] dd if=/cdrom/music.tgz of=music.tgz |
| 06:03.46 | maquis | dd: /cdrom/music.tgz: Value too large to be stored in data type |
| 06:03.46 | ScytheBlade1 | dd on the *device* |
| 06:04.00 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: that'll keep it in that filesystem, though |
| 06:04.08 | RyanE | hehe... so then she'll have an ISO if the file, with the same 9660 filesystem. |
| 06:04.10 | ScytheBlade1 | not if you can start at the file |
| 06:04.11 | maquis | the problem isn't the device, it's the filesystem |
| 06:04.24 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: how'd i do that? |
| 06:04.37 | RyanE | ScytheBlade1: dd won't start, because it does a stat on the file, says it's too large. |
| 06:04.38 | maquis | head claims the file is empty, tail claims it's too long |
| 06:04.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean find the offset and length of the file on the CD, and use dd in combo with offset and count |
| 06:04.59 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 06:05.00 | RyanE | maquis: matter of principle or not, sounds like you're beat if dd won't do it... :) |
| 06:05.07 | ScytheBlade1 | tar has a generic header |
| 06:05.10 | maquis | RyanE: :( |
| 06:05.24 | RyanE | oh and yeah... good luck with that header-and-offset thing... :) |
| 06:05.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 06:05.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it wouldn't be easy ;) |
| 06:05.32 | ScytheBlade1 | But it'd work |
| 06:05.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm. Do you still have the ISO on the linux box? |
| 06:06.03 | RyanE | ScytheBlade1: My boss at Claredi also reconstructed his FAT by hand with a disk editor, but I wouldn't recommend someone else doing it. |
| 06:06.04 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: my server has the tarball, i think |
| 06:06.15 | maquis | i just don't feel like scp-ing a >2g file |
| 06:06.24 | RyanE | maquis: start it, go to bed. |
| 06:06.28 | ScytheBlade1 | RyanE, it's not nice, but if worst comes to worst ;) |
| 06:06.46 | RyanE | still going to be faster / easier than writing a program or jury-rigging dd. |
| 06:07.02 | ScytheBlade1 | by far |
| 07:01.28 | RyanE | Happy New Year to those in MST |
| 07:06.38 | maquis | RyanE: does apache have issues with large files? |
| 07:06.52 | RyanE | it can timeout. |
| 07:06.54 | maquis | i can't seem to wget this file, but i can wget any other files in the webroot |
| 07:07.00 | maquis | erm... not timeout problems |
| 07:07.04 | RyanE | this is the 2G file? |
| 07:07.05 | maquis | 403 forbidden problems |
| 07:07.07 | maquis | yup |
| 07:07.18 | RyanE | scp is what I usually use for big files (video, etc.) |
| 07:07.41 | RyanE | and you could also rar it into several small files, get them, and unrar it back. |
| 07:17.47 | maquis | i'm just not wanting to do it all in one big jump... but oh well |
| 07:22.20 | maquis | hmmm |
| 07:22.47 | maquis | 80 KB/s... i think i'll wait on that until i get back to school and can do it in the 200KB/sec range |
| 07:22.56 | RyanE | heh |
| 07:23.00 | maquis | (or better) |
| 07:23.31 | RyanE | well, if you figured out rar, you could just rar it, then throw it back on another DVD, and unrar on BSD |
| 07:23.39 | RyanE | of course, by this time, you're pretty sick of all of this, I'm certain. |
| 07:23.39 | maquis | yeah |
| 07:23.47 | maquis | except that the server doesn't have a dvd burner |
| 07:23.51 | Newsome | man 1 split |
| 07:24.29 | RyanE | I suppose split is simpler than rar |
| 07:24.53 | maquis | Newsome: thanks |
| 07:25.41 | maquis | i'm still going to wait til i can get better connection... but that'll be useful : |
| 07:25.44 | maquis | :) |
| 07:25.56 | Newsome | or use rsync over ssh, with the 'continue' option |
| 07:27.12 | Newsome | and just let it run overnight |
| 07:27.35 | RyanE | or you could get a program that restarts your HTTP download. I've done that before for largish TV files (from my MythTV server) |
| 07:27.59 | RyanE | (mainly because the client end was windows... no rsync setup at that time) |
| 07:32.20 | maquis | RyanE: wget restarts downloads, at least that's what i think |
| 07:32.26 | maquis | but it won't let me use that |
| 07:32.37 | RyanE | that's right... sorry, getting a bit late. |
| 07:35.04 | RyanE | not *that* different... |
| 07:37.40 | Newsome | "wget -c" should restart downloads |
| 07:37.57 | maquis | Newsome: here's the problem with using wget: |
| 07:38.15 | maquis | i can wget any other file in the web-root on my server |
| 07:38.35 | maquis | however, if i try to wget this file (which is chmodded 777), it gives 403 forbidden |
| 07:38.52 | maquis | best guess is that apache can't handle 2.4GB files |
| 07:39.06 | Newsome | hmm, odd |
| 07:39.11 | Newsome | is it your server? |
| 07:39.12 | maquis | (which brings us back to why i'm stuck trying to transfer it over a network in the first place... stupid freebsd) |
| 07:39.15 | maquis | Newsome: yup |
| 07:39.44 | Newsome | is the actual file in the web root, or just a symlink to it? |
| 07:39.50 | ScytheBlade1 | apache 2.2 added support for large files :) |
| 07:40.10 | ScytheBlade1 | via apache new features: |
| 07:40.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Large File Support |
| 07:40.10 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:40.18 | maquis | bah |
| 07:40.23 | maquis | i'm on 2.0.somethin |
| 07:40.45 | maquis | what's with the 2G limit on everything? |
| 07:40.55 | maquis | i mean... first the dvd format, and now apache |
| 07:40.56 | ScytheBlade1 | old code? |
| 07:41.15 | maquis | *grumble* |
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| 16:22.23 | hans | my new years resolution is to lart emcnabb more |
| 16:22.25 | hans | -lart emcna |
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| 22:50.29 | maquis | vontrapp: ping? |
| 22:52.31 | elg | he's on the mountain |
| 22:52.45 | elg | then driving to veranl |
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| 23:28.48 | TimRiker | ibot: onjoin tensai Hey tensai. You need to add a method to remove OnJoin messages. It would be nice to match _default to display in all channels as well. |
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| 23:36.26 | maquis | TimRiker: that wasn't very nice! |
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