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| 01:30.27 | hans | -lart vontrapp |
| 01:30.36 | hans | heh. The Iconoclast Who Heroically Flouts Convention |
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| 02:24.53 | findlay | how do I access a sataII drive? |
| 02:30.11 | spr | via a sata II controller? |
| 02:30.43 | findlay | yeah |
| 02:31.08 | findlay | well, under linux genreally |
| 02:31.21 | spr | if you have the kernel modules it should show up as a scsi drive. (sd?) |
| 02:31.21 | findlay | seems like a dumb question now |
| 02:32.05 | findlay | JMicron, whatever that is |
| 02:32.12 | findlay | maybe there's a driver for it |
| 02:33.31 | findlay | spr: do you have any sata II drives? |
| 02:33.36 | sjansen | findlay: egrep 'sd[abc]' /var/log/messages |
| 02:34.14 | sjansen | If there's nothing in you log, then Linux isn't seeing it. If it is, you mount it just like any other /dev/[sh]da. |
| 02:35.45 | spr | findlay, no |
| 03:25.55 | maquis | i'm baaack! |
| 03:31.01 | hans | -lart maquis |
| 03:52.22 | maquis | -lart hans |
| 04:00.03 | sjansen | ~bat maquis |
| 04:00.04 | ibot | ACTION takes his mighty clue bat and whacks maquis over the head many, many, many times |
| 04:01.00 | tensai | -lart hans |
| 04:03.15 | sjansen | That doesn't seem like much of a lart. |
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| 04:17.58 | RyanE | maquis: welcome back to the 'real world'. |
| 04:23.14 | maquis | RyanE: thanks |
| 04:23.20 | maquis | -lart sjansen |
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| 04:34.33 | tensai | ~seen timriker |
| 04:34.43 | ibot | timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #botpark, 4h 36m 35s ago, saying: 'need to make a screen scraper version and get the google api one working too. patches welcome.'. |
| 04:38.35 | tensai | ~shave maquis |
| 04:42.31 | findlay | why isn't udev creating the /dev/sda device? |
| 04:49.35 | sjansen | findlay: any hints in /var/log/messages? |
| 04:49.44 | maquis | -lart tensai |
| 04:49.52 | maquis | tensai: why you trying to shave me? :( |
| 04:50.13 | sjansen | tensai: you forgot the first step |
| 04:50.16 | sjansen | ~cream maquis |
| 04:50.24 | tensai | ~yak maquis |
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| 05:01.33 | findlay | sjansen: dmesg looks fine. The module loads, but no device is created |
| 05:01.43 | sjansen | what does it say? |
| 05:01.51 | findlay | stuff |
| 05:02.46 | sjansen | udev doesn't work 'cause |
| 05:03.11 | findlay | http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=485011 |
| 05:06.29 | sjansen | what distro? |
| 05:06.41 | findlay | gentoo |
| 05:07.01 | findlay | feel free to abuse me for it (: |
| 05:08.14 | sjansen | you're in luck, I have a gentoo image on my laptop; let's see if I can find anything |
| 05:09.10 | findlay | ooooh, you're going to ask the cool looking "g" thingy oracle? ... That image? |
| 05:13.56 | sjansen | findlay: try 'modprobe sd_mod' |
| 05:17.10 | sjansen | then check your logs to see if anything interesting happens |
| 05:18.50 | findlay | duh |
| 05:18.54 | findlay | duh |
| 05:20.15 | sjansen | findlay: did that help? |
| 05:20.34 | sjansen | what does "duh duh" mean? |
| 05:21.20 | findlay | yup |
| 05:21.25 | findlay | thanks sjansen |
| 05:21.39 | findlay | I forgot to compile scsi disk support |
| 05:21.46 | findlay | that's why |
| 05:21.54 | sjansen | okay, here's a line to try adding to /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.conf |
| 05:22.19 | sjansen | ah, well I'll let you do that first before we go mucking in your udev conf |
| 05:22.49 | findlay | already modprobed sd_mod |
| 05:23.07 | findlay | and the device exists and works as advertized |
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| 05:26.04 | sjansen | Does it get loaded when you reboot? If not, I might have a udev conf line to help with that. |
| 05:26.26 | findlay | I guess since libata is in the scsi config area in the kernel configuration, then adding support for scsi disks seems logical |
| 05:27.14 | findlay | the module will be loaded on boot |
| 05:28.02 | findlay | I don't know why the device wouldn't be created |
| 05:29.08 | findlay | I'll try it anyway just to be scientific |
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| 05:32.23 | findlay | sjansen: /dev/sda exists |
| 05:33.03 | sjansen | cool |
| 05:34.27 | findlay | guess I was too impatient in selecting the new kernel modules I needed and overlooked sd_mod |
| 05:42.58 | Tene | So... perl... |
| 05:43.55 | Tene | I thought that there was a way to define multiple packages in a single file, but I can't seem to make it work sanely. |
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| 06:21.34 | levi | Good evening. |
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| 07:09.46 | root__ | anyone know of a good NAT setup guide? |
| 07:09.50 | root__ | oops... |
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| 07:10.43 | brailsmt | thats better... anyway, back to NAT, anyone know of a good guide? |
| 07:11.00 | brailsmt | s/guide/howto |
| 07:11.51 | brailsmt | *boo* |
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| 07:35.14 | lars-ut | ~emulate Ms Bitters |
| 07:35.17 | ibot | The lesson here is that dreams inevitably lead to hideous implosions. |
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| 07:41.29 | brailsmt | ok, i have two machines networked directly with a crossover cable (well, there is a hub between them, same thing really), they are both on the 10.0.0.0/8 subnet with IPs of .1 and .5... |
| 07:42.09 | brailsmt | is there anything that looks out of place with that? all the interfaces are configured and started, etc... |
| 09:03.37 | *** topic/#utah by lars-ut -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds | if you're looking to donate an old computer, check out stuporglue.org, *SSS 2006.01 released* [ http://softwarefor.org/get_software.html ] |
| 09:04.12 | lars-ut | http://www.softwarefor.org/wiki/index.php/Press_Release_Jan_2006 |
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| 15:44.03 | tensai | ~bat sjansen |
| 15:44.06 | ibot | ACTION takes his mighty clue bat and whacks sjansen over the head many, many, many times |
| 15:51.34 | sjansen | ~digg tensai |
| 15:52.11 | tensai | ~next-overhyped-website sjansen |
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| 16:45.11 | sjansen | ~beep hans |
| 16:45.15 | ibot | ACTION informs hans that the beeper is no longer in service |
| 16:47.18 | hans | -lart sjansen |
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| 16:53.19 | sjansen | ~pie tensai & hans |
| 16:53.21 | ibot | ACTION hits tensai & hans in the face with a cream pie |
| 17:18.14 | hans | for the record, if you want to call cartalk, call during the week before. |
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| 18:11.29 | lars-ut | BSD folks - do you think it would be appropriate to anonunce the new version of SSS to the gubug list? |
| 18:22.08 | hans | levi: ping |
| 18:53.19 | jlp | lars-ut: sure |
| 18:54.02 | lars-ut | okie dokie |
| 18:54.24 | lars-ut | thanks, jlp |
| 19:00.43 | goozbach | ~spell comunity |
| 19:05.12 | maquis | -lart goozbach |
| 19:14.39 | levi | hans: pong |
| 19:15.40 | sjansen | It's good to be a geek. |
| 19:16.27 | maquis | sjansen: yup |
| 19:16.43 | sjansen | I wanted to download all the back issues of the Brazilian verion of Linux Magazine. But was clicking on each link one by one and dowloading the PDFs good enough for me? Of course not! |
| 19:17.39 | sjansen | Instead, I wrote a Makefile to get a list of the issues online. That Makefile creates sub-directories and populates it with another Makefile that grabs the individual pieces of each issue. |
| 19:17.53 | goozbach | heh |
| 19:18.07 | sjansen | Now any time I want to check for new files, everything is just a make away. |
| 19:18.31 | maquis | haha |
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| 19:23.38 | levi | hans: Time for me to do some painting. You'll have to catch me later. |
| 19:24.07 | findlay | levi: on the other hand I can apt-get install a package in about 5 seconds |
| 19:24.17 | findlay | on debian I mean |
| 19:28.39 | hans | levi: ping again. :) |
| 19:29.35 | hans | i'll just ask. my battery light (91 honda accord) is coming on intermittently |
| 19:30.15 | hans | on the way up it started. we made it from monticello to moab (about an hour), pulled into a mechanics and when I popped the hood so he could check it with a voltmeter, the light went off |
| 19:30.40 | hans | it showed it was charging, so we killed the engine and started it again, apparently the battery was fine |
| 19:31.04 | hans | so it seems like it's charging. When the light is on, the idle hunts (up and down), but when the light is off the idle doesn't hunt. |
| 19:31.31 | hans | I'd like to take this alternator I bought at autozone back, and I'd like to know that the car will make it the 13 hours back home, before leaving monday |
| 19:31.34 | hans | any insights? |
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| 19:34.45 | findlay | hans: don't know |
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| 20:41.24 | hans | coolo, Jayce's email is broken. |
| 20:44.45 | sjansen | hans: You can still IM him. |
| 20:45.45 | xbmodder_lappy | is there a way to append "/" for all rows to the directory column (in mysql) |
| 20:46.13 | goozbach | ~bludgeon goozbach |
| 20:48.09 | sjansen | ~strip goozbach |
| 20:48.13 | sjansen | ~beat goozbach |
| 20:48.17 | ibot | ACTION beats goozbach with a large stick. |
| 20:48.19 | sjansen | ~torture goozbach |
| 20:48.21 | ibot | ACTION forces goozbach to support Debian GNU/Hurd in production. |
| 21:05.39 | sjansen | If it can make it across Nevada, you guys have some pretty good rain comin' your way. |
| 21:05.59 | xbmodder_lappy | Hmm, andrew morton has a 14 year old daughter |
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| 22:01.10 | sjansen | Is there an emacs user in the house? |
| 22:02.48 | maquis | dj |
| 22:03.24 | maquis | sjansen: if there was one, would you expect them to admit it? |
| 22:03.38 | maquis | btw, why is it that i can't backspace from here? |
| 22:04.55 | lars-ut | ~seen goozbach |
| 22:05.09 | ibot | goozbach is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 24 messages. Is idling for 1h 18m 56s |
| 22:05.09 | sjansen | because your terminal is sending the wrong character |
| 22:05.11 | maquis | ooh... i can use ctrl-H to backspace |
| 22:05.34 | maquis | sjansen: any idea how to change it on the mac terminal? (or change the coloring, for that matter) |
| 22:05.40 | maquis | i don't seee anything in the menus |
| 22:06.14 | maquis | i see a colors thing, but i can't seem to make it do anything useful |
| 22:06.26 | maquis | oh wait... |
| 22:06.30 | maquis | that might be it... |
| 22:06.37 | maquis | except, it's not that useful |
| 22:06.38 | sjansen | Don't know. You'd have to ask a Mac user. Alternatively, there's a command you can use to change the key. |
| 22:07.10 | maquis | i can drag and drop colors onto a section of the screen |
| 22:07.14 | sjansen | Basically, Macs send ^? instead of ^h. So either you can convince your terminal to send ^h, or you can convince your shell to accept ^?. |
| 22:07.40 | maquis | or i can just type ^h, which seems to be working for now, at least |
| 22:09.10 | sjansen | stty is the command |
| 22:10.14 | maquis | ah... |
| 22:10.25 | sjansen | stty erase ^? (I think) |
| 22:10.28 | maquis | ooh... i managed to get it to do reasonable colors by default |
| 22:12.44 | maquis | sjansen: i tried stty erase ^H and stty erase ^?, and neither worked (and yes, i used the control-characters rather than just using shift-6 for the ^) |
| 22:13.06 | maquis | neither seems to work... |
| 22:13.31 | sjansen | use the shift-6, you're trying to be too fancy |
| 22:15.28 | maquis | bah |
| 22:17.06 | maquis | sjansen: still no luck |
| 22:17.13 | maquis | i can't get it to do what i want |
| 22:17.20 | maquis | no problem, though |
| 22:17.28 | maquis | using ctrl-h isn't that bad :) |
| 22:17.37 | maquis | anyway, off to the store |
| 22:17.48 | sjansen | *shrug* Okay. Guess Macs have changed too much since I stopped using 'em. |
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| 22:44.59 | sjansen | lars-ut-away: you can't pm if you haven't identified yourself to nickserv |
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| 23:54.04 | hans | maquis: set Terminal.app to use rxvt as the terminal type |
| 23:55.03 | hans | that will enable color (although I've started just disabling color ls altogether - it's easier to unalias something than it is to get readable colors) |
| 23:56.25 | hans | it will fix backspace |