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| 00:52.46 | emcnabb | crap |
| 00:53.20 | emcnabb | I just got a phone call from someone and they want help setting up their modem under Windows 98 |
| 00:53.45 | jlp_work | uck |
| 00:53.45 | emcnabb | and of course my wife says that I'll be able to help out... |
| 00:53.52 | jlp_work | of course :-) |
| 00:54.17 | jlp_work | I had a call this morning from a neighbor "my printer isn't working"... turned out that the ink carts were clogged |
| 00:55.06 | jlp_work | "I'm trying to print from word perfect and it's not working" |
| 00:56.00 | emcnabb | :-( |
| 00:57.11 | jlp_work | have to start from the beginning with this luser: "is the printer turned on?, plugged in? can you print a test page?" test page was "beige" instead of black |
| 00:57.34 | emcnabb | haha |
| 00:58.03 | jlp_work | whelp, time to head for home... have fun with win98, emcnabb |
| 00:58.06 | jlp_work | better you than me |
| 00:59.05 | emcnabb | what's your phone number so I can give it to him? ;-) |
| 00:59.51 | emcnabb | off I go... |
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| 01:41.49 | vontrapp | ~ord 99 |
| 01:42.09 | vontrapp | ~ord c |
| 01:42.09 | ibot | vontrapp: 'c' is ascii 99 |
| 01:42.32 | vontrapp | ord C |
| 01:42.38 | vontrapp | ~ord C |
| 01:42.38 | ibot | vontrapp: 'C' is ascii 67 |
| 01:43.05 | vontrapp | ~ord D |
| 01:43.05 | ibot | 'D' is ascii 68, vontrapp |
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| 02:02.44 | sjansen | emcnabb: have fun? |
| 02:07.17 | sjansen | *sheesh* |
| 02:07.47 | sjansen | RE: Police Shooting in New Orleans |
| 02:08.16 | sjansen | "Totally unethical." "How many shots does it take to stop a person?" "They could have just shot to disable." |
| 02:08.29 | sjansen | 1) They tried non-lethal methods to no effect. |
| 02:08.39 | sjansen | 2) It appears to have been self defense. |
| 02:09.39 | sjansen | 3) When it's time to shoot, there's not time to hold a council and decide who will shoot. A mere 6 shots isn't unreasonable when there's more than 12 officers present. |
| 02:09.51 | sjansen | 3) When you shoot, you don't shoot to disable. Period. |
| 02:10.01 | JoshH | sjansen: some people are stupid |
| 02:11.04 | JoshH | it's like the shooting of the guy at the airport who claimed to have a bomb |
| 02:11.34 | JoshH | people were saying that since his wife was yelling that he didn't take his medicine, the air marshals should have just politely handcuffed him or something |
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| 03:44.03 | emcnabb | I have experienced hell |
| 03:44.40 | emcnabb | hell will consist of many installations of Win 98 on PII/200's with 64 MB RAM |
| 03:44.49 | emcnabb | they will all have misconfigured modems |
| 03:45.09 | emcnabb | and you will have to try to fix them, having no clue what modem is really inside |
| 03:45.33 | emcnabb | if you do need to download a driver, it will have to be over a PPP connection via your cell phone |
| 03:46.17 | emcnabb | mean while, three kids will be running and screaming around you, and because you're in the basement hallway of an old house, you wont be able to turn your chair in any way |
| 03:46.26 | emcnabb | I will sin no more! |
| 03:46.28 | emcnabb | I promise! |
| 03:47.07 | xbmodder_lappy | cool. |
| 03:48.16 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, ouch |
| 03:48.34 | emcnabb | needless to say, I was quick to give up |
| 03:50.08 | xbmodder_lappy | :( |
| 03:50.22 | xbmodder_lappy | did you infect the household with linux? |
| 03:50.54 | sjansen | emcnabb: Make sure your wife understands what you went through. Make sure that she understands asking a person to help with computer problems is as tacky as asking a doctor for a free consultation or a lawyer for free advice. |
| 03:51.28 | sjansen | Make sure she understands that most often these sorts of problems usually take multiple hours to solve. |
| 03:51.44 | emcnabb | sjansen, I agree; I will make sure to tell her, and make sure to tell her the next time you see her |
| 03:51.46 | xbmodder_lappy | sjansen, I'm not sure she'll have the same outlook on it. |
| 03:51.56 | emcnabb | oh, she will |
| 03:52.11 | sjansen | xbmodder_lappy: Then you haven't spent enough time providing free help. |
| 03:52.29 | sjansen | Asking for free computer help (especially on an ancient system) is a very selfish thing to do. |
| 03:53.04 | emcnabb | I had forgotten how horrible Windows 9X is |
| 03:53.09 | sjansen | Most people don't realize that. I'm not saying be rude, I'm just saying make sure the person understands what they're asking for/volunterring you for. |
| 03:53.18 | xbmodder_lappy | sjansen, I don't enjoy giving free help on 50Mhz 486s running windows 95 |
| 03:53.28 | xbmodder_lappy | which I actually had to do :( |
| 03:53.34 | emcnabb | sjansen, I agree completely |
| 03:54.14 | emcnabb | especially when it's: "Get the modem working so I can dial up with Netzero" |
| 03:54.47 | emcnabb | atleast it didn't end up working, so they'll be less likely to ask for future help |
| 03:55.48 | sjansen | People asking for free computer help is part of the reason I started using Linux. Now I can honestly say I haven't used Windows for years and probably can't help. |
| 03:56.12 | emcnabb | Lisa is putting in a 15 hour shift at the hospital right now, so she has it worse... |
| 03:56.57 | sjansen | ouch |
| 03:58.21 | emcnabb | she has a normal 12 hr shift, and they she's covering the first 3 hours of her favorite coworker's night shift |
| 03:58.37 | emcnabb | at least her friend covers her too when needed |
| 04:01.12 | sjansen | What's up with the medical profession and 12 hour shifts, anyway? |
| 04:02.10 | sjansen | You'd think of anybody, they'd best understand that humans can only go so long without getting tired and making mistakes. |
| 04:02.51 | xbmodder_lappy | sjansen, thats what insurance is for. |
| 04:04.05 | emcnabb | yeah, but at least you only work 3 shifts per week |
| 04:04.48 | emcnabb | she is pretty good about not getting worn out; I would not do well |
| 04:08.07 | maquis | sjansen: 12 hour shifts are nothing |
| 04:08.15 | maquis | my dad works > 24 hour shifts at the hospital |
| 04:08.54 | maquis | once a week he has 24+ hours, 5 times a week, he does 12-hour shifts |
| 04:09.19 | emcnabb | I guess the NICU doctors are on call for 3 weeks straight, but then get three weeks off (or something like that) |
| 04:09.29 | sjansen | maquis: be that as it may, it's still unreasonable in my opinion |
| 04:09.37 | xbmodder_lappy | Newsome, treos :) |
| 04:09.46 | maquis | emcnabb: yeah... but they're not busy the whole time |
| 04:09.51 | emcnabb | so they can go sleep in the hospital or even at home |
| 04:09.54 | maquis | sjansen: i agree... |
| 04:10.12 | xbmodder_lappy | I feel bad for nurses though, underpaid, overworked. |
| 04:10.12 | maquis | emcnabb: when my dad's on call, he's lucky to get like 2 hours of sleep in a night |
| 04:10.38 | emcnabb | xbmodder_lappy, nurses do get paid pretty well |
| 04:10.38 | maquis | too many people having babies in the middle of the night |
| 04:11.12 | sjansen | Ha! I'm watching Crossing Jordan and the long haired guy just blew up about being repeatedly asked to do computer stuff for other people. |
| 04:11.15 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, in the 6 months we've had 3 companies have huge strikes amongst their nurses |
| 04:11.23 | maquis | sjansen: haha |
| 04:11.46 | emcnabb | sjansen, awesome :-) |
| 04:11.57 | sjansen | xbmodder_lappy: strikes don't mean they aren't being payed well |
| 04:12.25 | sjansen | With nurses, it's more likely that it means they're being run ragged or not respected. |
| 04:13.16 | emcnabb | I always joke about how if Lisa becomes a neo-natal nurse practitioner (which is what she really wants to do), I might as well be a stay at home dad |
| 04:13.34 | emcnabb | especially on the east coast; they get paid well there |
| 04:15.05 | xbmodder_lappy | ok. yeah. I checked on the articles and its about not being given enough training, a voice, etc. |
| 04:15.06 | maquis | west coast isn't bad at all, either |
| 04:15.08 | maquis | at least seattle area |
| 04:16.29 | emcnabb | one thing that they're doing in the bigger hosiptals (Mayo, John Hopkins, etc) is making nursing a salaried position instead of hourly. The nurses get paid LESS, but it makes them have more of a "profession". |
| 04:16.44 | sjansen | emcnabb: Once the kids are older, that'll give you plenty of time to work on open source software. ;-) |
| 04:16.50 | emcnabb | oh yeah! |
| 04:17.33 | maquis | methinks the nurses at my dad's are salaried.... either that or they pull a *ton* of overtime |
| 04:17.52 | xbmodder_lappy | Doctors make too much |
| 04:18.14 | sjansen | No, professional athletes make too much. |
| 04:18.34 | sjansen | I'm okay with giving smart, hard working, talented people lots of reason to become doctors. |
| 04:18.35 | emcnabb | maquis, they may be. It's still pretty uncommon though nationwide. Lisa usually works one or two extra shifts per pay period |
| 04:19.11 | maquis | emcnabb: you ever consider coming this direction? |
| 04:19.12 | sjansen | The big problem with medicine is the cost of insurance, not greedy doctors pulling outrages salaries. |
| 04:19.41 | maquis | no kidding |
| 04:19.51 | emcnabb | Nurses in Utah are some of the most underpaid in the country. It's a family friendly job, so lots of people do it here. |
| 04:20.39 | maquis | sjansen: malpractice insurance companies are even refusing to insure certain fields in washington state |
| 04:20.40 | emcnabb | maquis, probably not; most likely we'll end up out east somewhere. Most likely Atlanta area, possible Illinois (to be close to family). As long as we are within a day's driving distance. |
| 04:20.49 | maquis | emcnabb: cool |
| 04:21.01 | maquis | sjansen: neurosurgeons can't get covered |
| 04:21.14 | maquis | the insurance companies have threatened to pull coverage from OB/GYNs too |
| 04:21.32 | emcnabb | Right now it's a 24 hr drive for my parents to come out, and 35 hours for her family |
| 04:21.43 | emcnabb | and that's straight, no long stops |
| 04:22.06 | maquis | the legislature was refusing to pass some laws that would make it les problematic, and they finally wrote up a law, but the voters wouldn't approve it |
| 04:22.10 | maquis | emcnabb: ah... |
| 04:22.11 | Newsome | emcnabb: tell them to drive faster. I've made the trip in just over 21 hours ;) |
| 04:22.32 | maquis | emcnabb: i've heard of people getting from BYU-I to BYU-provo in 2 hours... |
| 04:22.40 | emcnabb | Newsome, I know your lead foot (e.g. making sure we're to the SCO hearing on time) |
| 04:22.45 | Newsome | haha :) |
| 04:22.50 | maquis | haha |
| 04:23.22 | emcnabb | let me rephrase it: "To get out to Utah LEGALLY" |
| 04:23.25 | emcnabb | is that better? :-) |
| 04:23.27 | maquis | haha |
| 04:24.05 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 04:25.55 | emcnabb | time to get something productive done |
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| 04:27.04 | maquis | -lart TimRiker |
| 04:27.11 | maquis | ouch |
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| 06:38.57 | xbmodder | Are there any good sites that will allow you to upload a single HTML/CGI-exe for hosting? |
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| 07:51.27 | Lone_Wanderer | Is anyone here still up? |
| 07:52.31 | Tene | yes |
| 07:56.46 | xbmodder | hey |
| 08:00.34 | Lone_Wanderer | hello everyone |
| 08:01.11 | Lone_Wanderer | I think I got my question answered though. It was about what the average punch card user would be dreaming of getting to use about the time punch cards went out of style. |
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| 08:15.40 | findlay | hello |
| 09:06.22 | Lone_Wanderer | hello findlay |
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| 13:54.24 | graphyx | morning. |
| 13:55.48 | findlay | morn |
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| 15:06.32 | findlay | I think emcnabb is a little girl |
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| 17:04.29 | harleypig | http://www.hollywoodlostandfound.net/wilhelm/ |
| 17:04.30 | brac | [The Wilhelm Scream] |
| 17:11.02 | elg | ~scream |
| 17:11.04 | ibot | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! |
| 17:11.13 | elg | even ibot knows the wilhelm scream |
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| 17:13.42 | Robdor | Anybody here familiar with rails? |
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| 17:23.35 | sjansen | Robdor: Patience, my son. (And to answer your question too late: yes.) |
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| 17:25.58 | emcnabb | sjansen, what's on TV this morning? |
| 17:26.11 | sjansen | Haven't turned it on yet. |
| 17:26.23 | emcnabb | wow |
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| 17:34.48 | SpecialZ | ~lart maquis |
| 17:43.11 | goozbach | good morning #UTAH!!! |
| 17:43.21 | emcnabb | goozbach is actually in the office! |
| 17:43.31 | goozbach | WHERE?! |
| 17:43.34 | emcnabb | he exists |
| 17:43.40 | goozbach | I do!? |
| 17:43.44 | emcnabb | I thought he was just a Guru Labs bot |
| 17:44.22 | goozbach | I am NOT a bot! |
| 17:46.27 | goozbach | ~seen maquis |
| 17:46.31 | ibot | maquis is currently on #utah. Has said a total of 24 messages. Is idling for 13h 19m 20s |
| 17:49.20 | sjansen | ~jab goozbach |
| 17:49.22 | ibot | ACTION jabs a fork in goozbach |
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| 18:18.31 | goozbach | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20051226 |
| 18:18.32 | brac | [Ctrl+Alt+Del - Tragically l337] |
| 18:18.36 | goozbach | f-bomb alert |
| 18:18.46 | goozbach | don't read if you are offended by that sort of thing |
| 18:40.44 | elg | what a morning. slaughtered by the computer and/or my brother about 10 times in wesnoth. I just don't seem to get better. :) |
| 18:42.43 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, :) |
| 18:59.23 | goozbach | blargfooblarg |
| 19:05.17 | goozbach | I need a cool saying to engrave on my ipod, any ideas? |
| 19:05.23 | goozbach | maybe my handle? |
| 19:05.29 | goozbach | or is that corny? |
| 19:22.49 | findlay | goozBACH |
| 19:23.10 | graphyx | what about "to goozbach with love, Tina?" |
| 19:23.20 | graphyx | Go for the making other people jealous aspect. |
| 19:24.54 | goozbach | Tina!? |
| 19:25.10 | findlay | who's Tina? |
| 19:25.12 | goozbach | you're makking up an imaginary girl and the best name you can come up with is Tina!? |
| 19:25.13 | findlay | ~tina |
| 19:25.35 | goozbach | ~tina |
| 19:25.36 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, tina is imaginary |
| 19:26.03 | findlay | ibot: tina is also an imaginary girl whose name was the best graphyx could come up with |
| 19:26.04 | ibot | findlay: okay |
| 19:26.28 | emcnabb | I would say: "Good work on being Apple employee of the month. -Steve Jobs" |
| 19:26.41 | goozbach | come up with something better than that... |
| 19:26.48 | goozbach | like "Janery" |
| 19:26.56 | goozbach | or Cristina |
| 19:27.04 | goozbach | or lafawnda! |
| 19:27.28 | emcnabb | I would put "Bethshiba" |
| 19:27.35 | emcnabb | sp? |
| 19:27.47 | sjansen | Cleopatra |
| 19:28.16 | goozbach | or Judith |
| 19:29.08 | emcnabb | Roxanne |
| 19:31.36 | sjansen | Can't top that. |
| 19:32.30 | goozbach | I wonder what the name of this girl I'm going out with tonight... |
| 19:32.34 | graphyx | well you could have it be Bertha |
| 19:32.35 | goozbach | er is |
| 19:33.01 | graphyx | bertha, martha, matilda |
| 19:33.13 | sjansen | raimunda |
| 19:33.29 | emcnabb | Shera Princess of Power! |
| 19:34.06 | emcnabb | I'll give you $10 if you put that on the back of your ipod |
| 19:34.26 | graphyx | emcnabb: He would take the $10 and get a cover for it. |
| 19:34.28 | sjansen | I'll give you $1. Just thing, that's $11 total!!! |
| 19:34.29 | goozbach | $10!? |
| 19:34.35 | emcnabb | $11 now! |
| 19:34.47 | goozbach | if you get it over $100, I'll do it |
| 19:34.57 | emcnabb | I would too! |
| 19:35.25 | graphyx | for that, I would go out and buy one just to get paid to engrave it. |
| 19:36.17 | goozbach | so you'd spend $200 to get $100? |
| 19:36.33 | maquis | he'd get 100$ and a funny story |
| 19:37.10 | graphyx | goozbach: Just think of it as spending only $100 to get an ipod. |
| 19:37.20 | goozbach | ok |
| 19:37.26 | goozbach | that's what I was thinking |
| 19:37.37 | goozbach | but if you weren't already spending the money... |
| 19:37.46 | emcnabb | goozbach, you mentioned you could get an image lasered on the back: http://members.aol.com/abishort/she-ra/pictures/SheRa.gif |
| 19:38.17 | graphyx | that's bad. |
| 19:39.01 | findlay | hey mozilla is actually compiling this time! |
| 19:39.35 | findlay | oops, I forgot about the gentoo trolls here |
| 19:39.54 | maquis | findlay: ummm... i'd install firefox-bin instead of firefox |
| 19:40.12 | graphyx | findlay: maquis You guys running gentoo? |
| 19:40.20 | maquis | i tried to install firefox, and i recall that i gave up and did firefox-bin after about 15 hours or omething... |
| 19:40.25 | maquis | graphyx: not anymore on my main box |
| 19:40.25 | findlay | findlay is, maquis is a traitor |
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| 19:40.31 | maquis | used to... still run it on my server |
| 19:40.39 | maquis | i've got freebsd on here now, though... |
| 19:40.41 | graphyx | I stick with the bin for firefox, mozilla, openoffice. |
| 19:40.51 | findlay | maquis: I compiled firefox in about 20 minutes |
| 19:41.04 | graphyx | findlay: You have distcc running? |
| 19:41.10 | findlay | graphyx: no |
| 19:41.19 | maquis | findlay: hmmm.... don't know, then |
| 19:42.59 | sjansen | findlay: I defected a long time ago. My time is too precious. |
| 19:44.04 | sjansen | You'd have to have a seriously nice machine to compile firefox in 20 minutes... That, or the build is dying fast. |
| 19:44.54 | sjansen | emcnabb: I'll give you $5 to tatoo that gif on your right hand. |
| 19:45.41 | emcnabb | how much for the butt cheek? |
| 19:45.56 | emcnabb | Dax is will to get it tatooed on |
| 19:46.05 | emcnabb | willing |
| 19:46.27 | graphyx | emcnabb: who is Dax? |
| 19:46.39 | goozbach | our boss |
| 19:46.57 | graphyx | -rps rock |
| 19:46.57 | brac | scissors. You win. |
| 19:47.09 | sjansen | emcnabb: Sorry, no deal. I don't want to have to verify that you actually put it there. |
| 19:47.43 | graphyx | -rps scissors |
| 19:47.44 | brac | paper. You win. |
| 19:48.00 | goozbach | sjansen: you could ask lisa to verify |
| 19:48.18 | goozbach | er no, umm |
| 19:48.23 | goozbach | never mind |
| 19:48.33 | goozbach | look a garglesplat!!! |
| 19:58.05 | graphyx | "What in the world could that be?"! |
| 19:58.26 | graphyx | I could have sworn I saw something. |
| 19:58.33 | graphyx | What's the movie? |
| 19:58.53 | findlay | What's so funny? |
| 19:59.20 | graphyx | I'll tell you in a minute, but first we drink. Me from my glass and you from yours. |
| 19:59.44 | findlay | You guessed wrong. |
| 20:00.22 | RyanE_ | you only think I did |
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| 20:03.12 | sjansen | No self repecting geek doesn't know that movie. |
| 20:04.21 | elg | -lart packet loss |
| 20:04.51 | maquis | sjansen: i've seen it now |
| 20:05.33 | sjansen | Here's a fun one: I'm having problems with scp and sftp over ipsec, but ssh works fine. |
| 20:08.54 | RyanE_ | Well, now, uh, Launcelot, Galahad, and I, wait until |
| 20:08.56 | RyanE_ | nightfall, and then leap out of the rabbit' |
| 20:08.59 | findlay | sjansen: you need a shotgun to blow some holes in your firewall and your /etc directory while you're at it |
| 20:09.49 | elg | first suspect: MTU |
| 20:10.21 | jlp_work | sjansen: what's your shell? |
| 20:11.08 | jlp_work | sjansen: check your shell's startup scripts for something it might be doing in a "non-interactive" shell that it shouldn't be doing (stty, echoing stuff, junk like that) |
| 20:14.07 | elg | my parent's wireless ISP is serving up a whopping 10 to 50 percent of packet loss |
| 20:14.33 | elg | occasionally it drops down to 2 to 4 percent for a short while. |
| 20:15.15 | jlp_work | elg: did you recently have a lot of wind that might have changed the orientation of the antenna slightly? |
| 20:15.35 | elg | oh I don't know. it can be windy here |
| 20:15.52 | elg | it's been like this a long time, though. I think they've come to look at it but who knows |
| 20:15.56 | findlay | or might have blown packets off course |
| 20:15.58 | elg | of course the support number doesn't work |
| 20:16.06 | elg | and no response from the support email |
| 20:16.17 | jlp_work | 'course not |
| 20:17.18 | maquis | http://thedailywtf.com/images/One2Pt20462262185th.txt *whimper* |
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| 20:22.09 | emcnabb-treo | wow. they're talking about Make magazine on NPR |
| 20:22.47 | elg | maquis: so what's the punchline? |
| 20:23.12 | graphyx | maquis: After you went to all that trouble of writing those down wouldn't you already have it all memorised? |
| 20:28.32 | maquis | elg: erm... this was in production code? |
| 20:28.44 | sjansen | jlp_work: that's not it, although I've been bitten by it before |
| 20:28.59 | sjansen | elg: Good idea oh hans! |
| 20:28.59 | maquis | graphyx: perhaps |
| 20:29.13 | maquis | i don't know why i would create a variable OneThird, though |
| 20:30.19 | elg | I think it's overboard, and definitely not a pristine example of beautiful code, but maybe this person likes variables more than math. |
| 20:30.40 | maquis | elg: erm... maybe |
| 20:30.55 | elg | It doesn't hit me with a wtf. really, I wonder wtf is this on thedailywtf.com. |
| 20:31.16 | maquis | it seems very painful to me |
| 20:31.19 | elg | so maybe in a meta sort of way it does belong there. |
| 20:32.08 | elg | to code or use? |
| 20:32.21 | maquis | both |
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| 20:33.01 | maquis | the variable names are horrid |
| 20:33.38 | elg | I've seen worse |
| 20:33.46 | elg | e.g. hungarian notation |
| 20:34.00 | elg | doesn't seem so hard to use. you just ignore most of it and use Pi |
| 20:34.12 | elg | and maybe a few other choice variables |
| 20:34.25 | elg | as for creating it... the coder was probably shaving a yak |
| 20:34.44 | elg | or just discovered cut and paste, or yank and put |
| 20:34.57 | sjansen | Some of then are pretty pointless, but I can see a need for them if they were better written. (Carefully handling casting, etc.) |
| 20:35.04 | findlay | gross. yak's milk |
| 20:35.56 | jlp_work | sjansen: also check your PATH on the remote side, make sure it gets set to something that includes where scp is even if it's not an interactive shell |
| 20:36.32 | elg | sjansen: was it MTU? Is it starting and dropping? |
| 20:36.42 | elg | I've seen this before, and it was MTU-related. |
| 20:37.32 | sjansen | elg: Haven't tested it yet. Putzing around right now. |
| 20:37.35 | jlp_work | sjansen: have you tried with -v yet? |
| 20:37.39 | findlay | haha sjansen: MTUs |
| 20:38.07 | sjansen | jlp_work: Of course. scp worked through a port forward, so I know it's ipsec related |
| 20:40.56 | jlp_work | sjansen: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2002/08/msg00284.html |
| 20:40.57 | brac | [Re: scp fails <sometimes< : ssh works <always>] |
| 20:41.59 | jlp_work | (I didn't see that he solved the problem, but looks like the same problem) |
| 20:42.47 | maquis | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/12/bombsniffing_wa.html |
| 20:42.48 | brac | [Schneier on Security: Bomb-Sniffing Wasps] |
| 20:46.58 | harleypig | http://blueballfixed.ytmnd.com/ |
| 20:46.59 | brac | [Blue Ball Machine (Classic GIF Returned)] |
| 20:47.03 | harleypig | work safe |
| 20:47.35 | sjansen | elg: that was it |
| 20:51.31 | mrpull- | harleypig: that reminds me of the incredible machine |
| 20:51.39 | sjansen | ~praise elg |
| 20:51.41 | ibot | All hail elg! |
| 20:51.46 | mrpull- | i wish there was a good recent version of that game |
| 20:52.18 | elg | sjansen: you can send the check to Mr. Cool |
| 20:52.19 | findlay | Sibelius' 5th symphony sounds so much like Bruckner |
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| 20:56.29 | elg | so here I am watching port 5061 for SIP debugging, and up comes this little gem: |
| 20:56.30 | elg | http://rafb.net/paste/results/6H4fzm21.html |
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| 20:57.42 | sjansen | ha! |
| 21:02.42 | jlp_work | elg: I saw that recently on a friend's computer. I told him he had a virus and needed to get it taken care of. it just popped up out of the blue |
| 21:03.01 | elg | well whatever was listening on port 1026 |
| 21:03.24 | elg | the sad thing is, I can't help but wonder if that's part of windows itself. but nah... |
| 21:04.01 | jlp_work | I think his popup had a word mispelled (like registry was spelled regerstry or something weird like that) |
| 21:04.38 | elg | the cool thing is you could make your own popups for infected computers |
| 21:04.38 | elg | practical jokes, mmmmm |
| 21:05.00 | elg | http://rafb.net/paste/results/6H4fzm21.html |
| 21:05.00 | elg | er, |
| 21:05.00 | elg | WINDOWS ERROR MESSAGE - REGISTRY DAMANGED. |
| 21:05.00 | elg | that perhaps? |
| 21:05.11 | jlp_work | yeah, I think that was it :-) |
| 21:05.32 | findlay | elg: maybe you should write a simple gtk app to listen on that port and open up a dialog or two so you don't feel left out in this non-windows prejudiced cyberworld |
| 21:06.41 | maquis | wait... i'm lost... |
| 21:06.47 | elg | i'll put it on an embedded chip with a wireless connection and fuse it to your brain. then whenever you're in a hotspot you can enjoy advertisements on port 1026 too |
| 21:07.06 | elg | ~find maquis |
| 21:07.08 | maquis | there's a win vulnerability where you can send something to port 1026 and it pops it up in a error message? |
| 21:08.07 | jlp_work | http://www.lurhq.com/popup_spam.html |
| 21:09.18 | elg | or a spyware or virus |
| 21:14.25 | xbmodder | lol |
| 21:15.46 | goozbach | there's a little girl i know |
| 21:15.53 | goozbach | you might know her too |
| 21:16.43 | xbmodder | ? |
| 21:18.04 | maquis | question: if i try to go to "tuxgirl.com/wordpress", it says it can't connect, but if i go to "tuxgirl.com/wordpress/", it works fine |
| 21:18.12 | maquis | what did i do wrong in my setup to cause that? |
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| 21:19.27 | goozbach | nope |
| 21:19.34 | goozbach | redirection needs to be enabled |
| 21:19.44 | maquis | goozbach: how would i do that? |
| 21:19.47 | goozbach | apache I presume? |
| 21:19.52 | maquis | yup |
| 21:20.05 | goozbach | version? |
| 21:20.06 | jlp_work | yeah, that's a common apache thing. tuxgirl.com/wordpress doesn't actually exist, and should automatically redirect you to tuxgirl.com/wordpress/ |
| 21:20.33 | maquis | goozbach: working on figuring that out :) |
| 21:20.57 | maquis | goozbach: it's apache2.something |
| 21:21.24 | goozbach | ok |
| 21:21.28 | goozbach | version 2 |
| 21:21.37 | maquis | 2.0.52 |
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| 21:22.38 | jlp_work | do you have an Alias directive for wordpress? |
| 21:22.41 | goozbach | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/rewriteguide.html#url |
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| 21:26.22 | goozbach | look for "trailing slash" |
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| 21:29.25 | jlp_work | maquis: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_dir.html |
| 21:30.05 | jlp_work | (rewrite engine is kind of overkill for the trailing slash problem, if you have mod_dir loaded, it should fix it automagically) |
| 21:30.21 | goozbach | oh yeah |
| 21:30.57 | maquis | jlp_work: cool... thanks |
| 21:32.32 | maquis | jlp_work: maybe i'm completely misunderstanding how to use this |
| 21:33.03 | maquis | i opened my apache2.conf, and added a line that said DirectorySlash On (after checking to ensure that mod_dir was being loaded) |
| 21:33.18 | maquis | it says that On should be the default, though |
| 21:33.23 | maquis | and still, it's not quie working |
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| 21:34.15 | jlp_work | are you loading mod_dir? |
| 21:34.22 | maquis | jlp_work: yup |
| 21:34.25 | jlp_work | and is wordpress an Alias? |
| 21:34.43 | maquis | jlp_work: no... it's a directory in /var/www/html |
| 21:35.41 | maquis | the weird thing is that when i try to do tuxgirl.com/wordpress, it's redirectiong to localhost/wordpress/ |
| 21:35.48 | maquis | and i don't know why |
| 21:36.01 | jlp_work | yeah, I just tried that and it redirected to http://localhost/wordpress/ |
| 21:36.42 | RyanE_ | maquis: you have hostname set? |
| 21:36.47 | jlp_work | so the redirect is working, but it's redirecting to the wrong place |
| 21:36.50 | RyanE_ | in apache2.conf? |
| 21:36.58 | maquis | RyanE_: let me check |
| 21:37.20 | maquis | RyanE_: i don't see 'hostname' anywhere in the file |
| 21:37.27 | jlp_work | Apache/2.0.52 (Gentoo/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.1.1 PHP/4.3.10 Server at localhost Port 80 |
| 21:37.38 | jlp_work | your apache thinks your hostname/ServerName is "localhost" |
| 21:37.51 | RyanE_ | ServerName, I mean... yeah. |
| 21:37.53 | RyanE_ | duh |
| 21:38.20 | jlp_work | check ServerName and UseCanonicalName |
| 21:38.41 | jlp_work | and maybe ServerAliases, too |
| 21:38.51 | maquis | usecanonicalname isn't anywhere... i just set servername to http://www.tuxgirl.com |
| 21:39.24 | jsmith | You might try taking off the http:// |
| 21:39.24 | maquis | i don't appear to have serveraliases either |
| 21:39.24 | jlp_work | uh, what jsmith said :-) |
| 21:39.26 | maquis | jsmith: i tried it without... |
| 21:39.47 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.47 | maquis | Syntax error on line 8 of /etc/apache2/conf/apache2.conf: |
| 21:39.47 | maquis | The port number "http://www.tuxgirl.com" is outside the appropriate range (i.e., 1..65535). |
| 21:40.01 | maquis | that line is: |
| 21:40.05 | maquis | ServerName http://www.tuxgirl.com |
| 21:40.06 | jlp_work | ServerAlias, sorry, not ServerAliases |
| 21:40.11 | jlp_work | you want: |
| 21:40.16 | jlp_work | ServerName www.tuxgirl.com |
| 21:40.16 | graphyx | maquis: tuxgirl is your site? |
| 21:40.22 | maquis | graphyx: yup |
| 21:40.22 | jlp_work | ServerAlias tuxgirl.com |
| 21:40.23 | graphyx | cool. |
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| 21:40.44 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.45 | maquis | Syntax error on line 9 of /etc/apache2/conf/apache2.conf: |
| 21:40.45 | maquis | ServerAlias only used in <VirtualHost> |
| 21:40.55 | sjansen | ~lart linksys and sbc |
| 21:40.59 | jlp_work | meh |
| 21:41.02 | jsmith | sjansen: Amen! |
| 21:41.19 | jsmith | sjansen: Well, at least for *most* of the evil in the world. |
| 21:41.35 | jlp_work | maquis: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#servername |
| 21:41.47 | maquis | jlp_work: i commented out the serveralias line, and it's starting again, but it's still redirecting to localhost |
| 21:43.54 | jlp_work | just out of curiosity, what is the "hostname" of the machine (i.e., type hostname at a shell, if you have shell access) |
| 21:44.22 | maquis | jlp_work: normally anubis... i changed it to www.tuxgirl.com and tried again, but that didn't appear to change anything |
| 21:44.51 | sjansen | Starting 7am New Year's day, Fox is playing 17 hours of Cops episodes!!!1! |
| 21:45.10 | jlp_work | apparently, the httpd is trying to figure out what your hostname is and is coming up with "localhost" for some weird reason |
| 21:45.14 | maquis | jlp_work: would that make a difference? |
| 21:45.22 | maquis | (the hostname, i mean) |
| 21:45.25 | jlp_work | it shouldn't make a difference, now |
| 21:45.29 | jlp_work | s/now/no/ |
| 21:45.56 | maquis | setting UseCanoncialName On doesn't seem to do much... probably because that's the default setting |
| 21:46.40 | JoshH | maquis: so what is ServerName set to? |
| 21:46.50 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.01 | JoshH | try setting in the file for your site instead of apache2.conf |
| 21:47.11 | maquis | JoshH: huh? |
| 21:47.18 | maquis | file for my site? |
| 21:47.19 | JoshH | is this on debian? |
| 21:47.21 | jlp_work | do you have printenv in your cgi-bin? if so, try hitting that and see what shows up in the SERVER_NAME environment variable |
| 21:47.25 | maquis | JoshH: no... it's on gentoo |
| 21:47.31 | JoshH | do yo have a sites-enabled directory? |
| 21:47.49 | maquis | JoshH: i don't know what you're talking about, so i doubt it |
| 21:47.50 | jlp_work | JoshH: she's not using vhosts |
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| 21:48.22 | sjansen | sites-enabled is a debian thing |
| 21:48.24 | maquis | jlp_work: i don't think so... i can make a php page that does something like that, though (i think... is it just printenv(); in php?) |
| 21:48.37 | jlp_work | no idea, I don't use php |
| 21:48.41 | JoshH | ive only used apache2 on debian personally |
| 21:49.28 | maquis | grr... there's a command for this |
| 21:50.21 | RyanE_ | maquis: ServerName shouldn't have a port... |
| 21:50.23 | RyanE_ | phpinfo() |
| 21:50.26 | RyanE_ | is what you want. |
| 21:50.35 | maquis | phpinfo! thanks |
| 21:50.57 | RyanE_ | Should just be ServerName www.tuxgirl.com |
| 21:51.07 | maquis | RyanE_: that wasn't working either |
| 21:51.17 | maquis | phpinfo says it's www.tuxgirl.com |
| 21:51.18 | jlp_work | maquis: here's a perl printenv to put in your cgi-bin directory: http://pastebin.com/482112 |
| 21:51.28 | RyanE_ | if you have virtual hosts setup, you'd have a vhosts directory, with Vhosts.conf setup in it |
| 21:51.48 | RyanE_ | and in there, each virtual host would have it's own ServerName. |
| 21:51.56 | maquis | RyanE_: ah... |
| 21:52.28 | RyanE_ | and you would have no ServerName in the 'main' conf, I believe. |
| 21:53.00 | JoshH | RyanE_: that's kinda what i was sayig |
| 21:53.38 | maquis | g2g |
| 21:53.47 | maquis | bbiab... my dad's calling |
| 21:54.27 | RyanE_ | JoshH: yeah, I noticed, but she wasn't 'getting it'. |
| 22:06.35 | maquis | sorry... i'm back |
| 22:06.56 | maquis | my dad apparently thinks that i'm a frontend to google |
| 22:07.41 | maquis | RyanE_: i'm fairly certain i don't have virtual-hosts set up |
| 22:08.27 | goozbach | maquis: I just had the same experence with my sister... |
| 22:08.51 | emcnabb | interesting command: csplit It's like split but breaks up a file based on file context. Example: csplit -k -f section testfile '/CREATE TABLE/' {*} |
| 22:09.02 | maquis | goozbach: i get it every time i'm home |
| 22:09.11 | goozbach | heh |
| 22:10.08 | maquis | it drives me insane |
| 22:10.10 | RyanE_ | apparently you *ARE* a frontend to google, and an efficient one for your father. |
| 22:10.24 | RyanE_ | if you stop being a frontend to google, maybe he'll stop thinking you are. |
| 22:10.26 | RyanE_ | :) |
| 22:10.36 | goozbach | I just refer them to google |
| 22:10.43 | goozbach | I never answer the question |
| 22:10.45 | RyanE_ | teach the man to fish. |
| 22:10.48 | maquis | RyanE_: well... i don't have a lot of options... he'd throw a fit if i didn't do it |
| 22:10.54 | goozbach | they eventulaly get the idea |
| 22:10.58 | goozbach | let him fit |
| 22:10.59 | RyanE_ | so be it. |
| 22:11.07 | goozbach | he'll get over it or die pissed |
| 22:11.11 | maquis | goozbach: he knows its on google... he tells me "go find this on google" |
| 22:11.42 | goozbach | tell him you're bandwith is exceeded it's limit |
| 22:13.59 | maquis | anyway... any more suggestions on my apache issues? |
| 22:16.53 | sjansen | goozbach: you're assuming she has something better to do with her time |
| 22:17.05 | goozbach | true |
| 22:17.35 | jsmith | maquis: Seems to be working just fine now... |
| 22:17.53 | maquis | jsmith: what's working just fine? |
| 22:18.04 | maquis | -lart sjansen |
| 22:18.08 | graphyx | maquis: www.tuxgirl.com pops up the phpinfo page. |
| 22:18.15 | maquis | graphyx: yeah... |
| 22:18.29 | maquis | but tuxgirl.com/wordpress doesn't seem to be redirecting still... at least not for me |
| 22:18.43 | jsmith | maquis: Where is it supposed to redirect to? |
| 22:18.58 | graphyx | tuxgirl.con/wordpress/ pulls up your blog for me. |
| 22:19.23 | graphyx | if I put in tuxgirl.com/wordpress it redirectes to localhost/wordpress/ |
| 22:19.26 | maquis | jsmith: tuxgirl.com/wordpress/ |
| 22:19.29 | RyanE_ | maquis: in the apache section, it says hostname: port is localhost:0 |
| 22:19.37 | maquis | graphyx: yeah... that's the problem i'm trying to resolve |
| 22:19.38 | graphyx | which doesn't come up since I don't have /wordpress/ on my box. |
| 22:19.51 | RyanE_ | it should say www.tuxgirl.com:80 |
| 22:19.54 | maquis | RyanE_: erm.... what would cause that? |
| 22:20.57 | graphyx | apache: SERVER_NAME localhost |
| 22:21.05 | RyanE_ | well, I'd say ServerName, but you were saying that didn't work. |
| 22:21.06 | graphyx | Change that to www.tuxgirl.com and restart apache. |
| 22:21.18 | maquis | graphyx: i've got ServerName www.tuxgirl.com:80 |
| 22:22.05 | graphyx | in the apache2 httpd.conf change it to just ServerName www.tuxgirl.com |
| 22:22.14 | graphyx | and restart apache. |
| 22:22.58 | maquis | graphyx: done... |
| 22:23.26 | graphyx | do you have usecannonical names on or off? |
| 22:23.40 | jlp_work | graphyx: I think we went through all of this :-/ |
| 22:23.49 | maquis | graphyx: on |
| 22:25.42 | jsmith | maquis: Did the wordpress installation create a .htaccess file in /wordpress/, and if so, what happens if you rename it? |
| 22:26.38 | maquis | jsmith: i just renamed it |
| 22:26.44 | maquis | still getting the problem |
| 22:26.57 | maquis | umm... how do i clear my cache, just so i can ensure that's not causing a problem? |
| 22:27.25 | jlp_work | it's not, I telnetted directly to your web server and got the bogus redirect |
| 22:28.10 | maquis | jlp_work: ok... thanks |
| 22:28.24 | maquis | why in the world.... |
| 22:30.57 | graphyx | maquis: Put this in a .htaccess file. |
| 22:30.58 | graphyx | RewriteEngine On |
| 22:30.58 | graphyx | RewriteRule ^wordpress$ wordpress/ [R] |
| 22:30.59 | jsmith | maquis: According to the phpinfo page, Apache still thinks the servername is "localhost" |
| 22:31.00 | maquis | ok... hopefully there isn't anything on here that's problematic, but if it helps: http://www.tuxgirl.com/apache2.conf |
| 22:31.19 | graphyx | try putting that in the wordpress folder. |
| 22:32.06 | maquis | graphyx: done |
| 22:32.13 | maquis | not seeing it working still, though |
| 22:32.25 | graphyx | try putting it in web root as well. |
| 22:32.42 | maquis | graphyx: done |
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| 22:33.29 | jlp_work | maquis: anything weird in conf/commonapache2.conf? or anything in conf/modules.d/*.conf? |
| 22:34.02 | jlp_work | does anything weird show up in the error_log when you restart? |
| 22:34.41 | maquis | jlp_work: 3 lines in commonapache2.conf: user apache, group apache, serveradmin root@localhost |
| 22:35.09 | sjansen | make sure that apache is shutting down completely when you restart |
| 22:35.26 | maquis | i think it is |
| 22:35.33 | maquis | i'll check, though |
| 22:36.23 | maquis | jlp_work: here's the error_log when i'm restarting: |
| 22:36.26 | graphyx | maquis: You have the mod_rewrite enabled right? |
| 22:36.28 | hans | apachy is notorious for not really restarting |
| 22:36.28 | maquis | [Wed Dec 28 15:31:33 2005] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down |
| 22:36.29 | maquis | [Wed Dec 28 15:31:35 2005] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest authentication ... |
| 22:36.32 | maquis | [Wed Dec 28 15:31:35 2005] [notice] Digest: done |
| 22:36.34 | maquis | [Wed Dec 28 15:31:36 2005] [notice] Apache/2.0.52 (Gentoo/Linux) DAV/2 SVN/1.1.1 PHP/4.3.10 configured -- resuming normal operations |
| 22:37.00 | maquis | same result i i use stop and then start |
| 22:37.49 | jlp_work | I didn't see anything obviously wrong with your apache config, and those messages look benign to me, also |
| 22:37.58 | sjansen | stop, pgrep, start (don't just assume) |
| 22:39.06 | jlp_work | one suggestion: configure a virtual host, put the ServerName and ServerAlias directives in the virtual host container (VirtualHost *:80), you shouldn't need anything else in the virtual host container as it should inherit from the parent |
| 22:39.06 | graphyx | maquis: add this to the httpd.conf and restart |
| 22:39.08 | graphyx | <Directory /home/www/www.tuxgirl.com> |
| 22:39.08 | graphyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.08 | graphyx | </Directory> |
| 22:39.11 | hans | a moment of silence for the beauty that is pgrep |
| 22:39.13 | maquis | sjansen: pgrep? |
| 22:39.20 | graphyx | process grep |
| 22:39.21 | sjansen | man pgrep |
| 22:39.30 | maquis | oh... |
| 22:39.38 | hans | pgrep is one of the programs that make you swear when it's not installed |
| 22:39.40 | sjansen | maquis: I'm not your interface to man. ;-) |
| 22:39.43 | maquis | as opposed to /etc/init.d/apache2 pgrep |
| 22:39.49 | maquis | which wasn't working |
| 22:40.06 | graphyx | hans: I thought that was vim. |
| 22:40.17 | hans | that's another one |
| 22:40.32 | hans | and ip |
| 22:41.00 | maquis | sjansen: it's stopping completely, and starting again |
| 22:42.18 | hans | as sherlock holmes would say, you've got to be telling apache to be localhost somewhere |
| 22:42.45 | sjansen | I'm watching a show on the history channel about english armor. The host, in full plate armor, just threw himself off a galloping horse to prove that a knight in armor could easily stand up again. |
| 22:42.54 | maquis | graphyx: should i replace the /home/www... with /var/www/html? |
| 22:43.03 | sjansen | This guy's cool. How many hosts would do that? |
| 22:43.35 | sjansen | maquis: obviously |
| 22:43.47 | maquis | sjansen: just making sure |
| 22:43.50 | hans | sjansen: you make me want to go turn on the history channel |
| 22:44.50 | hans | but i'm in the middle of winning a game of ticket to ride |
| 22:45.14 | maquis | graphyx: that did give a different response: You don't have permission to access /wordpress on this server. |
| 22:46.04 | jlp_work | maquis: the server still thinks it's name is localhost |
| 22:46.24 | maquis | jlp_work: i'm noticing that... but at least it didn't run off to localhost on my machine |
| 22:47.04 | graphyx | do you have your updated conf file on that link? |
| 22:47.16 | maquis | i can... just a sec |
| 22:47.34 | maquis | graphyx: ok... |
| 22:47.38 | maquis | it's updated |
| 22:47.48 | graphyx | it didn't let me see if. |
| 22:48.19 | maquis | graphyx: hmmm |
| 22:48.21 | graphyx | At this point it doesn't let me see anything on the site. |
| 22:48.26 | maquis | me neither |
| 22:48.28 | graphyx | not / not wordpress not conf. |
| 22:48.32 | maquis | yeah |
| 22:49.08 | maquis | graphyx: you should be able to get to it |
| 22:49.13 | graphyx | make sure it is pointed to the correct directory and that those directories are setup with the correct permissions. |
| 22:49.38 | maquis | graphyx: the last 3 lines are what i just added (and then removed) |
| 22:52.53 | graphyx | put it back in and put these lines in it. |
| 22:52.54 | graphyx | Options Includes Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews |
| 22:52.54 | graphyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.54 | graphyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.54 | graphyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.00 | graphyx | and see how it goes. |
| 22:55.09 | maquis | graphyx: still getting forbidden |
| 22:55.21 | graphyx | what do the logs say? |
| 22:55.58 | graphyx | error_log to be specific |
| 22:56.17 | graphyx | if the .htaccess isn't don't right it will break the site. |
| 22:56.27 | maquis | [Wed Dec 28 15:51:46 2005] [error] [client 71.113.54.92] Options FollowSymLinks or SymLinksIfOwnerMatch is off which implies that RewriteRule directive is forbidden: /var/www/html/ |
| 22:56.50 | graphyx | remove that option and try once more. |
| 22:56.59 | maquis | which option? |
| 22:57.08 | maquis | followsymlinks? or the rewrite rule? |
| 22:57.15 | graphyx | FollowSymLinks |
| 22:57.47 | maquis | graphyx: turn them both on? neither are mentioned in the conf file, i think |
| 22:58.26 | graphyx | Did you not put in the Options Includes Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews in the directory segment in the httpd.conf file? |
| 22:58.36 | maquis | i don't think so |
| 22:58.53 | maquis | nope |
| 22:58.55 | graphyx | Make sure you have all of these lines in the directory section. |
| 22:59.01 | graphyx | Options Includes Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews |
| 22:59.01 | graphyx | (15:51:26) graphyx: AllowOverride All |
| 22:59.01 | graphyx | (15:51:26) graphyx: Order allow,deny |
| 22:59.01 | graphyx | (15:51:26) graphyx: Allow from all |
| 22:59.41 | graphyx | but put the AllowOverride All before the Options line. |
| 22:59.57 | maquis | so: |
| 23:00.10 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.11 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.11 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.11 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.11 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.13 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.16 | maquis | right? |
| 23:00.29 | graphyx | yeah. |
| 23:01.02 | maquis | ok... it's starting... |
| 23:01.21 | maquis | still thinks it's localhost, unfortunately |
| 23:01.26 | graphyx | I noticed. |
| 23:02.07 | graphyx | and you have the .htaccess file in both the webroot and the wordpress folders? |
| 23:02.26 | maquis | yup |
| 23:02.49 | maquis | i updated the apache2.conf on the website |
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| 23:04.12 | sjansen | perhaps its time to move this to #helpmaquis |
| 23:04.32 | maquis | sjansen: :( |
| 23:06.00 | graphyx | maquis: There isn't a ServerName Directive in the other conf files is there? |
| 23:06.17 | graphyx | also add a "+" prior to the FollowSymLinks |
| 23:07.02 | graphyx | I gotta go. |
| 23:07.16 | maquis | graphyx: thanks for all the help |
| 23:07.18 | maquis | i'll keep looking |
| 23:07.29 | SpecialZ | ~lart maquis |
| 23:07.50 | maquis | -lart SpecialZ |
| 23:07.55 | goozbach | http://www.jumbojoke.com/the_psychology_professor_575.html |
| 23:07.56 | brac | [The Psychology Professor] |
| 23:09.07 | emcnabb | goozbach, haha |
| 23:10.23 | maquis | goozbach: that's great |
| 23:11.03 | maquis | http://tuxgirl.com/server-info <-- claims at one point that servername is localhost, and claims at another point that it's www.tuxgirl.com |
| 23:11.17 | maquis | so, i just need to figure out where it's getting the localhost from |
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| 23:41.18 | maquis | http://www.jumbojoke.com/black_crayons_4.html |
| 23:41.18 | brac | [Black Crayons] |
| 23:41.19 | maquis | hehe |
| 23:43.11 | harleypig | Don't suppose anyone knows anything about sapi5 and perl do they? |
| 23:47.50 | goozbach | http://www.jumbojoke.com/needed_asbestos_now_needs_attorney_10.html |
| 23:47.51 | brac | [Needed Asbestos, Now Needs Attorney] |
| 23:50.13 | hans | maquis try /etc/hosts |
| 23:51.58 | maquis | hans: i just added tuxgirl.com to the line that says 127.0.0.1 |
| 23:52.05 | maquis | is there someplace else i should add it? |
| 23:52.54 | hans | before localhost |
| 23:53.02 | hans | just a stab in the dark |
| 23:53.08 | maquis | 127.0.0.1 tuxgirl.com localhost anubis |
| 23:56.38 | goozbach | http://www.jumbojoke.com/what_me_worry_257.html |
| 23:56.39 | brac | [What, Me Worry?] |
| 23:58.38 | sjansen | Well, if you needed an illustration to accompany the definition of "white trash"... |
| 23:59.05 | maquis | http://www.jumbojoke.com/the_top_15_biblical_ways_to_acquire_a_wife_556.html |
| 23:59.05 | brac | [The Top 15 Biblical Ways to Acquire a Wife] |
