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| 00:24.52 | SpecialK | Gee, all anybody has done today is come and go |
| 00:44.38 | emcnabb | sjansen said something at 13:13 |
| 00:44.51 | sjansen | ~wrap emcnabb |
| 00:44.53 | ibot | ACTION wraps emcnabb in a fifty foot roll of duck tape |
| 00:46.42 | xbmodder | hey |
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| 00:53.25 | resplin | ehlo. |
| 00:53.31 | resplin | How are you enjoying the holidays? |
| 00:53.58 | sjansen | Completely unproductively. |
| 00:54.08 | resplin | That's the best kind. |
| 00:54.20 | resplin | Have you ever played with the ATI Xorg drivers? |
| 00:54.22 | sjansen | (Well, mostly unproductively. I did get bored and start doing work stuff today.) |
| 00:54.29 | xbmodder | enjoying, holidays? |
| 00:54.37 | sjansen | Nope, just nVidia. |
| 00:55.38 | xbmodder | resplin, the open-source ones? |
| 00:55.38 | resplin | xbmodder: Whatever will give me 3D accel |
| 00:55.39 | xbmodder | or the propetiary (may I call EVIL) ones? |
| 00:55.39 | xbmodder | what card do you have (dump of lspci) |
| 00:55.45 | resplin | lspci: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M |
| 00:55.59 | resplin | Though the laptop spec said it was a Mobility 7000 |
| 00:56.19 | xbmodder | use the open-source ones |
| 00:57.14 | resplin | I've spent the last hour trying to get it working on debian, and I'm not having any success. Do you have any hints? |
| 00:58.55 | xbmodder | what xorg version |
| 00:59.44 | xbmodder | any kinda error? |
| 01:00.04 | xbmodder | Section "Device" |
| 01:00.05 | xbmodder | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.05 | xbmodder | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.05 | xbmodder | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.05 | xbmodder | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.05 | xbmodder | EndSection |
| 01:00.11 | xbmodder | that's mine :) |
| 01:00.14 | xbmodder | lalala! |
| 01:00.51 | resplin | Xorg 6.8.2, Linux kernel 2.6.12. |
| 01:01.32 | resplin | No error, except that the fonts suck and glxgears locks up my machine. I don't specify the VideoRam. Maybe that's the problem. |
| 01:01.41 | resplin | Do you have a mobility as well? |
| 01:01.55 | resplin | I went through Xorg.log and didn't see anything that looked like an error. |
| 01:06.03 | resplin | I have tried both "radeon" and "ati". Vesa works fine (though no 3d accel). |
| 01:06.43 | resplin | I wonder if I need to have a special kernel module or something. |
| 01:07.24 | resplin | Do you have any debugging tips? |
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| 01:56.14 | resplin | xbmodder: I think I need to build the drm kernel module. I'll play with that later. |
| 01:56.20 | resplin | xbmodder: thanks for your help. |
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| 04:44.18 | pmcnabb | another slow evening in #utah.. |
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| 05:41.21 | maquis | -lart pmcnabb |
| 05:41.33 | maquis | pmcnabb: that might be why it's so slow |
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| 06:02.00 | n0ct3rn | Hello Utah |
| 06:02.22 | n0ct3rn | Anyone heard of Kategory 5 ? |
| 06:07.20 | maquis | ~nickometer n0ct3rn |
| 06:08.43 | n0ct3rn | Thanks |
| 06:08.52 | maquis | n0ct3rn: np :) |
| 06:08.56 | n0ct3rn | Trying to avoid a conflict |
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| 06:48.57 | maquis | hmmmm |
| 06:49.01 | maquis | for some reason, it's working |
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| 13:33.07 | hans | ~rlart |
| 13:33.19 | hans | -roulette |
| 13:33.20 | brac | hans: chamber 3 of 6 => +click+ |
| 13:33.25 | hans | -rps rock |
| 13:33.25 | brac | rock. We tie. |
| 13:33.32 | hans | -rps scissors |
| 13:33.32 | brac | paper. You win. |
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| 14:21.01 | graphyx | welcome back. |
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| 14:24.57 | elg | -lart tensai |
| 14:24.59 | elg | tensai: you there? |
| 15:35.31 | elg | ~duel tensai |
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| 15:55.56 | elg | any german speakers here? |
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| 16:28.30 | sjansen | The most I know is guttentaugh, alveterzane, and die toten hosen. |
| 16:29.26 | maquis | when i was in kindergarten, i could sing o tannenbaum |
| 16:30.10 | hatchmt | I took German in middle school and can remember a few things, but no way can I spell. :) |
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| 16:31.15 | emcnabb | uffda |
| 16:31.23 | emcnabb | oh wait, wrong language |
| 16:37.21 | elg | sjansen: I think you meant guten tag, aufwiedersehen |
| 16:37.32 | elg | although I can't vouch for the spelling of auf... |
| 16:37.49 | elg | tensai: you here yet? |
| 16:39.31 | elg | brb |
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| 16:50.59 | emcnabb | sjansen, well, I'm the only one here so far |
| 16:51.12 | emcnabb | I'm getting some quality LWN time in |
| 16:51.37 | emcnabb | so work is going great |
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| 17:10.18 | hans_ | so I upgraded my dad's wrt54g to the latest firmware, and now all the drop-down boxes have wierd labels like this: |
| 17:10.41 | hans_ | Capture(share.staticip)Static IP |
| 17:10.58 | hans_ | instead of just Static IP |
| 17:20.41 | Uncle_Jesse | the new ipods have so much better sound than my old ipod mini |
| 17:23.02 | maquis | Uncle_Jesse: really? |
| 17:23.15 | maquis | y mini isn't bad... |
| 17:30.36 | Uncle_Jesse | maquis: maybe I have an older one - the sound is so much better, higher and lower ranges on my new ipod video |
| 17:30.49 | maquis | Uncle_Jesse: ah... that might be true... |
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| 17:49.02 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 17:49.50 | xbmodder_lappy | did you try sveasofT? |
| 17:55.43 | hans_ | who me? no, but I'm getting ready to put openwrt on it |
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| 18:11.10 | emcnabb | Cool command of the day: readelf -h /bin/ls |
| 18:11.14 | emcnabb | or readelf -a |
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| 18:41.40 | Uncle_Jesse | hans: I recommend dd-wrt - it's a combo of openwrt and sveasoft |
| 18:41.54 | hans | why? |
| 18:41.56 | Uncle_Jesse | btw the TMBG podcast is really cool |
| 18:42.10 | jsmith | Oh really? |
| 18:42.27 | Uncle_Jesse | hans: you can do everything command-line like openwrt, but it has a similar front-end interface to sveasoft |
| 18:42.30 | hans | sweet, I'll have to check out that podcast |
| 18:42.50 | Uncle_Jesse | I think it combines code of both |
| 18:42.58 | hans | and what is this front-end? |
| 18:43.08 | hans | openwrt has a web interface |
| 18:43.23 | Uncle_Jesse | it's a web interface, superior to openwrt's web interface IMO |
| 18:43.33 | jsmith | dd-wrt has a web interface similar to sveasofts |
| 18:43.40 | Uncle_Jesse | unless they've improved openwrt's much |
| 18:43.42 | Uncle_Jesse | jsmith: exactly |
| 18:43.51 | Uncle_Jesse | I think it's the same code |
| 18:44.06 | hans | never seen sveasoft's. openwrt has all the basics in the web interface, and everything else I'd want to do from the command line anyway |
| 18:44.33 | jsmith | hans: sveasoft's is quite similar to the original Linksys version |
| 18:44.44 | Uncle_Jesse | hans: if you will never see the web interface, and despise web interfaces then openwrt is probably best for you, but dd-wrt gives you the best of both worlds |
| 18:44.58 | hans | well the original linksys web interface and I never got along very well. |
| 18:45.18 | Uncle_Jesse | hans: this is much more powerful than the original linksys interface |
| 18:45.28 | hans | web interfaces are good for some things, and command line is good for others |
| 18:45.31 | Uncle_Jesse | you can set up a chilispot from the web on this one |
| 18:45.34 | Uncle_Jesse | for example |
| 18:45.43 | hans | what's a chilispot? |
| 18:45.55 | Uncle_Jesse | hot spot |
| 18:46.10 | Uncle_Jesse | that connects to a remote db for authentication |
| 18:47.31 | hans | elaborate |
| 18:50.58 | Uncle_Jesse | I've never set it up, but I believe you can set up software on a linux machine that listens for chilispot requests. A user that connects to your hotspot will be redirected to a request to authenticate, and when authenticating will connect to the db on the linux server and once authenticated allow the user through from then on. |
| 18:51.21 | Uncle_Jesse | I was just using that as an example for a cool use of the web configuration |
| 18:53.06 | Uncle_Jesse | lol - beatles-sounding "Particle Man" |
| 18:54.46 | hans | well that sounds neat enough that it might have been worth investigating before. but now I have openwrt up and running, and I'm happy with it, so oh well |
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| 18:55.13 | Uncle_Jesse | hans: yeah - may as well stick with what you have - openwrt is powerful |
| 18:55.36 | Uncle_Jesse | I had it for awhile myself |
| 18:56.02 | Uncle_Jesse | you can get chilispot packages for openwrt as well |
| 18:57.29 | Uncle_Jesse | I still want to create a package that centers on focusing towards parental control |
| 18:57.43 | Uncle_Jesse | aka redirection to a Dan's Guardian server, url lists, etc |
| 18:58.12 | Uncle_Jesse | sorry - distro, not package (for linksys) |
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| 19:06.35 | sjansen | TMBG podcast? |
| 19:07.21 | Uncle_Jesse | sjansen: yup - it's in itunes top ten this week |
| 19:08.36 | xbmodder_lappy | sweet |
| 19:10.29 | mrpull- | i like the TMBG "schoolhouse rock" style cartoons that come on after my kid's shows. |
| 19:22.33 | sjansen | o/~ Amadeus, Amadeus, rock me Amadeus ~/o |
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| 19:46.20 | graphyx | hello |
| 19:56.34 | sjansen | o/~ Hello, hello. You say "hello" when I say "goodbye." ~/o |
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| 20:50.13 | graphyx | ~invoke timriker |
| 20:56.08 | graphyx | how do you keep math to integer math in perl? |
| 20:58.30 | graphyx | nvm |
| 20:58.34 | graphyx | it's use integer; |
| 21:06.23 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
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| 21:57.28 | sjansen | http://www.physics.byu.edu/ComputerSupport/udrive_linux.aspx |
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| 22:00.43 | mrpull- | sjansen: I like the jab at darl |
| 22:03.36 | graphyx | that is pretty funny. |
| 22:03.50 | graphyx | slightly obscure if your aren't a linux nut. |
| 22:06.41 | mrpull- | they didn't make the same joke on the windows setup page. |
| 22:07.10 | graphyx | probably a different group that put it together. |
| 22:07.38 | graphyx | But to be impartial they should have a shot of username IBM and have the SCO_UNIX.c on the drive. |
| 22:07.59 | mrpull- | heh. |
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| 23:02.41 | amcnabb | I put up a DSPAM page at http://www.mcnabbs.org/andrew/linux/dspam/ since it took me so long to get it working. |
| 23:02.48 | amcnabb | It's definitely worth it though. |
| 23:03.07 | amcnabb | If anyone wants to try to set it up, I hope this helps. |
| 23:03.51 | emcnabb | it is much more accurate than SA ever was |
| 23:04.37 | amcnabb | I haven't seen a mistake in several days. |
| 23:12.14 | xbmodder | hey |
| 23:13.30 | jsmith | amcnabb: Oh really... I may have to check it out then... |
| 23:13.36 | jsmith | amcnabb: I've been hating SA lately |
| 23:15.54 | amcnabb | I think SpamAssassin is pretty irrelevant now that spammers know what it looks for. |
| 23:16.08 | amcnabb | And it doesn't do statistical learning methods very well. |
| 23:18.40 | emcnabb | after two or three days it was catching 98% of my SPAM |
| 23:19.06 | emcnabb | now it rarely if ever misses |
| 23:20.29 | amcnabb | Not to mention that Mom can make it retrain on errors. |
| 23:21.13 | amcnabb | Though we still don't have the pretty graphs on the web management page working yet. |
| 23:32.14 | mrpull- | xbmodder: did santa visit your house? |
| 23:35.44 | xbmodder | no... |
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| 23:44.55 | SpecialZ | Santa certainly didn't come my way |
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