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| 02:02.16 | levi | Stupid President Bush. Who asked you to interrupt our TV programming? Just who do you think you are, anyway? ;) |
| 02:08.34 | maquis | levi: what'd be interrupt for? |
| 02:08.46 | levi | maquis: To give a speech. |
| 02:08.53 | maquis | levi: about? |
| 02:09.03 | maquis | is it another patriot act speech? |
| 02:09.12 | maquis | i saw the one yesterday morning |
| 02:09.15 | levi | maquis: No, it's about the Iraq war. |
| 02:09.39 | maquis | hmmm what'd he say? |
| 02:09.46 | levi | "No really, despite all the WMD stuff that didn't pan out, it was the right thing to do! We're still winning! Blah blah blah. |
| 02:12.55 | levi | "For every life lost, there are countless lives reclaimed! |
| 02:13.12 | levi | So, he's figured out resurrection, apparently. |
| 02:14.40 | amcnabb | stupid president |
| 02:15.08 | amcnabb | Interrupting people's TV is sure a good way to increase your approval rating. |
| 02:15.32 | levi | Yeah, he's a smart one. |
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| 02:23.22 | maquis | http://techdirt.com/articles/20051216/1651244_F.shtml |
| 02:23.23 | brac | [Techdirt:US Congress, Ready And Willing To Serve... Hollywood] |
| 02:23.23 | maquis | :( |
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| 02:44.55 | tensai | mmm. roasted jalapeno mayonaisse. so spicy and so yummy. |
| 02:45.32 | levi | Homemade? |
| 02:45.37 | tensai | why of course |
| 02:45.41 | maquis | mmmm... that sounds good |
| 02:45.54 | maquis | tensai: that's too bad... i was going to ask where you bought it |
| 02:45.57 | tensai | I'll take pictures the next batch |
| 02:46.22 | tensai | maquis: it's so easy. roast some peppers. mash them in the blender. add mayo. |
| 02:47.08 | maquis | tensai: roast peppers in oven? just stick them in the oven? or something more than that? |
| 02:47.38 | tensai | last time I put them under the broiler, this time I did it on the stove top |
| 02:47.48 | tensai | both ways seemed to work but the stove was easier to turn the peppers |
| 02:47.51 | levi | tensai: Oh, I thought you made the mayo too. |
| 02:48.07 | tensai | the mayo, yes. but I added the peppers |
| 02:48.26 | tensai | although mayo is pretty easy to make too |
| 02:50.21 | mrpull-x | i'm afraid if I knew what went into mayo I wouldn't like it anymore :) |
| 02:50.59 | tensai | I've made it and I still like mayo. it's basically just egg yolk, vinegar and oil. lots of oil |
| 02:51.32 | mrpull-x | just yolks? i knew there was some egg in there, but I would have guessed it was the whites |
| 02:51.38 | mrpull-x | (I dont cook) |
| 02:52.03 | tensai | I guess the lecithin is all in the yolk |
| 02:56.38 | levi | The odd thing about mayo is that it's an emulsion, but the oil is emulsified in the egg yolk instead of the other way around as you'd expect by the quantities. |
| 02:57.23 | mrpull-x | gah, this laptop just shocked the devil out of me |
| 03:00.52 | harleypig | Anyone familiar with beancounter? http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/code/beancounter.html |
| 03:01.11 | harleypig | mrpull-x: Does that mean you've been saved? |
| 03:01.46 | mrpull-x | geeze. i don't think so, it just got me again |
| 03:01.48 | mrpull-x | i think it is unhappy i put dapper on it |
| 03:01.54 | tensai | harleypig: yes, I've used it a little. seems to work quite well but a) I don't know a whole lot about stocks and b) I'm not dedicated enough to update it |
| 03:02.30 | harleypig | tensai: how do you mean 'update it' ... is the code outdated? or is there more work involved than what I'm seeing from the page? |
| 03:03.25 | tensai | harleypig: I input the mutual funds of my 401(k), but I haven't entered my monthly contributions for a while |
| 03:03.37 | mrpull-x | harleypig: I propose you wrap a nice gui around it |
| 03:03.41 | tensai | the code works well though |
| 03:03.57 | mrpull-x | it seems a lot of the web based finance portals will do similar anyway |
| 03:04.48 | tensai | I would have thought so, but I couldn't get quite the same effect with yahoo |
| 03:04.57 | tensai | didn't look much further, though |
| 03:07.25 | harleypig | mrpull-x: heh |
| 03:07.46 | harleypig | well, I'm looking for something I can run from the console |
| 03:07.59 | tensai | beancounter certainly does |
| 03:09.18 | harleypig | yep ... I just don't know enough about this kind of thing to judge the application. |
| 03:09.34 | harleypig | do you know what kind of community is behind it? |
| 03:09.48 | tensai | no idea. I just apt-get installed it |
| 03:11.01 | harleypig | Thanks. |
| 03:14.50 | mrpull-x | harleypig: Dont you want pretty graphs? CLI isn't the best for _everything_... or is it? |
| 03:17.34 | harleypig | mrpull-x: yes I do. I'm not sure how to put this. |
| 03:18.02 | harleypig | I prefer cli for everything except fps' and trying to understand large bits of numerical data. |
| 03:18.17 | harleypig | gathering the data shouldn't involve the mouse. |
| 03:18.44 | harleypig | ideally, it should be cron'd |
| 03:19.30 | harleypig | also, I do everything via a remote server, screen runs automatically, and either a ssh or a http+ssh connection and I can connect anywhere there is internet access. |
| 03:19.49 | harleypig | err .. I can *work* anywhere there is internet access |
| 03:22.18 | mrpull-x | harleypig: sounds good to me. maybe you should play ttyquake and get rid of GUI's altogether. |
| 03:23.03 | harleypig | heh ... I like eye candy as much as the next guy (well, almost as much) |
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| 03:25.24 | mrpull-x | i couldn't believe it when I looked at the quake4 box and my video card isn't supported |
| 03:25.43 | mrpull-x | it is only a year or so old and runs doom3 and hl2 ok |
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| 04:33.29 | tensai | ~lart sappy Christmas movies |
| 04:37.22 | mheath | Hmmm |
| 04:37.49 | mheath | I got a double helping at half price :) |
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| 05:35.47 | AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI | selam |
| 05:38.54 | maquis | selam alekhum (spl?) |
| 05:39.13 | AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI | nas0131l s0131n arkada015f |
| 05:39.18 | maquis | ??? |
| 05:39.35 | AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI | hepsi yabanc0131 bunlar0131n |
| 05:39.41 | AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI | yoksa benmi yabanc0131y0131m |
| 05:39.44 | AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI | :) |
| 05:40.04 | maquis | sorry... |
| 05:40.08 | maquis | i don't know any of that |
| 05:40.15 | maquis | selam alekhum is the only phrase i know |
| 05:40.35 | AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI | are you speak turkish |
| 05:40.46 | maquis | no... i think it's arabic... |
| 05:40.57 | AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI | ha |
| 05:41.01 | AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI | arab |
| 05:41.13 | AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI | what is your name |
| 05:41.28 | maquis | i go by maquis around here... |
| 05:41.43 | AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI | nerey gidiyon be |
| 05:41.58 | AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI | what is your name |
| 05:42.22 | maquis | that's about as far as you're going to learn... |
| 05:42.36 | AKILLI_KIZ_VARMI | 0131 dont |
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| 05:44.39 | levi | ooookay. |
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| 06:52.01 | findlay | looks like I missed the interesting part today |
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| 07:41.33 | bonez39 | anyone around? |
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| 14:43.10 | graphyx | morning. |
| 14:43.30 | graphyx | -weather |
| 14:43.31 | brac | 9 minutes ago, on Mon Dec 19 14:35:00 UTC 2005, the wind was calm at KPVU. The temperature was 2 degrees Celsius (36 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1028 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 74.8%. There were overcast clouds at a height of 1524 meters (5000 feet). |
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| 15:29.56 | tensai | maquis: I'm surprised you didn't give him(?) your address and home phone number! |
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| 15:55.17 | Hhhhh | hello |
| 15:56.29 | graphyx | hi |
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| 16:22.46 | graphyx | everyone on vacation? |
| 16:24.40 | Hhhhh | yup ;) |
| 16:24.52 | Hhhhh | well, working, but on break from school |
| 16:27.20 | jsmith | graphyx: If only... |
| 16:29.47 | graphyx | jsmith: You're not a student!! You don't count. |
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| 16:31.54 | maquis | jsmith: on the positive side, you didn't just have to go through finals... |
| 16:32.27 | graphyx | I think that more than makes up for it right there. |
| 16:32.34 | graphyx | so maquis: What are you up to these days? |
| 16:32.53 | jsmith | maquis: No, I had like 5^H6^H... uh, more like 7 years of finals... |
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| 16:33.29 | maquis | graphyx: going shopping today |
| 16:33.31 | maquis | :) |
| 16:33.36 | maquis | -lart sjansen |
| 16:33.38 | graphyx | good luck out there. |
| 16:33.44 | maquis | graphyx: thanks |
| 16:33.52 | graphyx | I hate traffic/ store population these days. |
| 16:33.59 | maquis | true, but it'll be ok |
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| 16:34.43 | goozbach | BUHAHAHAH!!!!! |
| 16:35.05 | Hhhhh | new nvidia driver supports SLI in Linux!@!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:35.09 | Hhhhh | yahoooo! |
| 16:35.19 | goozbach | very wahoo!!! |
| 16:35.31 | goozbach | but.... :( |
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| 16:37.29 | jsmith | Hhhhh: Oh really? |
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| 16:38.06 | goozbach | buhahahah! |
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| 16:47.00 | sjansen | ~praise vacations |
| 16:47.01 | ibot | All hail vacations! |
| 16:49.23 | levi | Good morning, #utah. |
| 16:53.11 | sjansen | I'm the evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight! |
| 16:53.20 | sjansen | levi: Bad is good, baby, bad is good! |
| 16:54.01 | graphyx | sjansen: Does that mean you bomb evil midnights? |
| 16:57.02 | sjansen | graphyx: http://www.thetick.ws/wavs/yeahbaby.wav |
| 17:10.38 | Jayce^ | classic |
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| 17:28.15 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: is there still a perlmongers list somewhere? |
| 17:28.24 | Jayce^ | yes |
| 17:28.26 | Jayce^ | nupm |
| 17:28.48 | Jayce^ | same as plug, just s/plug/nupm/ and it'll work |
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| 17:40.14 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: thanks - how many people are on there? I need to submit a job posting if it will be worth it. |
| 17:41.54 | sjansen | Post it even if its not worth it. Won't take but a minute to do. |
| 17:42.14 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - need to subscribe to the list anyway |
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| 17:46.28 | sjansen | http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=zLElfJ9YCh0 |
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| 17:48.54 | tensai | ~lart clueless dns admins |
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| 17:49.31 | tensai | MX can not point to an IP address. it must be an A. |
| 17:49.47 | tensai | and then customers complain to us that they can't send email |
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| 18:38.48 | harleypig | Anybody familaiar with sc? |
| 18:39.11 | Jayce^ | zmodem transfers |
| 18:43.54 | harleypig | zmodem? |
| 18:44.52 | goozbach | zmodem... |
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| 18:49.56 | harleypig | So, no one is familiar with sc then? |
| 18:52.35 | Uncle_Jesse | harleypig: south carolina? |
| 18:53.03 | harleypig | :] No, it's a console based spreadsheet program. |
| 18:53.14 | harleypig | looks to be fairly powerful |
| 18:53.43 | harleypig | was just hoping someone would have a link some online help on it. |
| 18:54.01 | Jayce^ | ah, I was thinking sz |
| 18:54.09 | Jayce^ | which is quite a fun tool |
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| 18:55.05 | hans | -lart tensai |
| 18:55.50 | harleypig | not sure what sz is ... oh ... the zmodem you referred to earlier? |
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| 19:00.46 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 19:01.08 | Jayce^ | so you're in an ssh session N levels deep, and want a file, you just sz filename and you have it |
| 19:01.54 | *** topic/#utah by TimRiker -> http://www.devutah.com/geekdinners.htm || The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds | if you're looking to donate an old computer, check out stuporglue.org | UUG fragfest: phantom.byu.edu port 5154 for capture-the-flag, port 5155 for rabbit-hunt. Meeting officially starts at 7:30, but |
| 19:02.34 | harleypig | what kind of fragfest? |
| 19:02.53 | Jayce^ | darnit, going to miss the dinner again |
| 19:11.22 | Newsome | at least it's not going to be all about Phil Windbag this time |
| 19:16.27 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> http://www.devutah.com/geekdinners.htm || The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds | if you're looking to donate an old computer, check out stuporglue.org |
| 19:17.53 | sjansen | Jayce^: Where does this sz you speak of come from? URL? |
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| 19:22.22 | RyanE | http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/sz1.html |
| 19:22.25 | brac | [sz] |
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| 20:24.04 | sjansen | ~lart emcnabb |
| 20:32.27 | TimRiker | anyone else headed to the geek dinner? I'm wondering what the last one was like. |
| 20:32.46 | TimRiker | ie: win or lin? vi or emacs? ;-) |
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| 20:33.37 | hans | i'm going to eat at my grandma's insteas |
| 20:34.19 | RyanE | TimRiker: the last one was interesting, but the 'microformats' discussion was pretty much something you could've picked up in 10 minutes of reading on the internet. |
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| 20:45.17 | lars-ut-away | ~emulate Ms Bitters |
| 20:45.18 | ibot | There's a pigeon on your head! You've got head pigeons! Get to the nurse before they spread to the other children! |
| 20:45.50 | lars-ut-away | goozbach: Still interested in seeding and/or mirroring Software for Starving Students? |
| 20:49.50 | graphyx | ~emulate gir |
| 20:49.51 | ibot | my walnuts! |
| 20:50.04 | sjansen | ~emulate sjansen |
| 20:50.06 | ibot | ACTION beats sjansen to a bloody pulp with some well crafted XML weapons |
| 20:50.35 | graphyx | sjansen: Into self abuse are you? |
| 20:52.11 | harleypig | ~emulate shatner |
| 20:52.18 | harleypig | ~emulate kirk |
| 20:52.20 | goozbach | lars-ut: sure |
| 20:52.25 | harleypig | that sucks. |
| 20:53.34 | lars-ut | goozbach: thanks. We have started a mailing list for our seeders: http://softwarefor.org/mailman/listinfo/seeders |
| 20:54.05 | lars-ut | We'll be posting relevant info there prior to publicly announcing the release so that seeders are up in advance |
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| 20:55.45 | lars-ut | This release has 50 packages including Firefox 1.5, Thunderbird 1.07, Azureus 2.3.0.6, and OpenOffice 2.0 |
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| 21:06.37 | Uncle_Jesse | NetworkManager is awesome if you have a laptop |
| 21:06.58 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone else ever play with it? |
| 21:07.33 | tensai | Uncle_Jesse: that does look pretty cool, but no I've never touched it |
| 21:08.27 | Uncle_Jesse | tensai: it comes default with FC4 - very useful |
| 21:08.38 | Uncle_Jesse | you just have to enable the init scripts and it runs |
| 21:08.56 | graphyx | Uncle_Jesse: What does it do? Conditions traffic? |
| 21:09.35 | Uncle_Jesse | graphyx: it auto-connects and detects networks your laptop or computer can join |
| 21:09.42 | Uncle_Jesse | w/o having to restart network every time |
| 21:10.10 | Uncle_Jesse | or resetting your keys file every new wap you join |
| 21:11.54 | sjansen | Oo, a 24 marathon! |
| 21:12.10 | Uncle_Jesse | sjansen: when? I never saw the first season |
| 21:14.41 | sjansen | Right now on A&E. |
| 21:14.48 | Uncle_Jesse | darn |
| 21:15.55 | jsmith | Uncle_Jesse: I've been using NetworkManager for months -- it just keeps getting better. |
| 21:16.43 | spr | I wish I could get it working in debian |
| 21:17.41 | sjansen | I wish it was default on SUSE 10. netapplet is really annoying |
| 21:17.59 | spr | netapplet is all I've got to work with. Better than nothing |
| 21:18.05 | graphyx | Nice. |
| 21:18.10 | graphyx | SO it's a wireless connection manager. |
| 21:18.42 | graphyx | -weather |
| 21:18.43 | brac | 24 minutes ago, on Mon Dec 19 20:55:00 UTC 2005, the wind was calm at KPVU. The temperature was 6 degrees Celsius (43 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1028 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 70.3%. There were scattered clouds at a height of 1829 meters (6000 feet) and broken clouds at a height of 3048 meters (10000 feet). |
| 21:18.45 | sjansen | I don't know, the stock Ubuntu network scripts seemed better than netapplet. |
| 21:19.42 | Uncle_Jesse | jsmith: just got it working this weekend - I didn't know what I was missing until I tried it |
| 21:19.44 | spr | really? stock debian stuff isn't quite as conveniant. |
| 21:20.03 | spr | Of course, I still have to manually put in wep keys |
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| 21:37.26 | hans | networkmanager, eh? I'll have to give it a look |
| 21:37.33 | hans | spr: you had trouble with it in debian? |
| 21:39.09 | spr | hans, I can't find packages for it, and getting it to build from source is a pain (a lot of dependances w/o packages as well) |
| 21:39.36 | spr | if you can find packages for it, I'd be grateful |
| 21:39.39 | hans | so it's overly complicated? |
| 21:40.23 | spr | seems that way. |
| 21:40.39 | spr | I tired on gentoo last summer, and it wasn't too bad back then |
| 21:41.49 | jsmith | hans: No, it's not complicated... at least from a user's standpoint. I've never tried compiling it. |
| 21:42.07 | hans | spr: have you tried to alien the rpm? |
| 21:42.30 | spr | no, not familar with alien (past what it does) |
| 21:43.11 | hans | alien foo.rpm |
| 21:43.14 | hans | dpkg -i foo.deb |
| 21:43.38 | spr | nifty. I'll give that a try |
| 21:43.43 | hans | you'd still need to get the real dependencies yourslef of course |
| 21:44.26 | spr | yeah, but there are rpms for them too |
| 21:46.46 | hans | looks nice. |
| 21:47.09 | hans | looks almost like someone enamored with dbus and hal that wanted to solve a problem using them |
| 21:47.51 | hans | this problem really can be solved without bleeding-edge technology though. too bad they didn't |
| 21:48.24 | spr | yeah, netapplet was a good project, similar in goals, but the developers stopped work on it and went to NetworkManager |
| 21:48.34 | spr | No dbus in netapplet |
| 21:48.50 | hans | does NetworkManager work without the silly applet? |
| 21:49.07 | spr | I don't know |
| 21:49.10 | hans | for those that don't run X or don't use gnome or kde? |
| 21:49.18 | byronc | NetworkManager makes me mad enough to think that ifscheme is really nice |
| 21:49.34 | jsmith | hans: Yes. It works without the applet. |
| 21:49.35 | hans | all of which sometimes is me |
| 21:49.49 | hans | byronc: oh is that a contrary opinion? I like that. you don't like it? |
| 21:50.15 | byronc | I've only used NetworkManager in ubuntu and I didn't like at all |
| 21:50.31 | hans | spr: there you go, grab the ubuntu packages |
| 21:51.36 | hans | byronc: didn't do what you expected? |
| 21:52.27 | byronc | hans: the biggest problem was that I couldn't tell what it was going to do each time I opened the GUI |
| 21:52.50 | byronc | hans: Was it going to automatically start wireless this time? who knows |
| 21:53.04 | byronc | byronc: maybe it's gotten better |
| 21:53.08 | jsmith | byronc: Opening the GUI doesn't change anything... |
| 21:53.42 | byronc | half the time when I opened the gui, the card would be enabled, other times it wouldn't and no amount of clicking would really get the card to come up |
| 21:54.13 | byronc | at least with ifscheme and a good interfaces file there was no guessing |
| 21:55.47 | jsmith | byronc: I've never seen anything remotely like that... |
| 21:56.49 | byronc | jsmith: lucky you :) |
| 22:19.21 | sjansen | *sigh* |
| 22:19.23 | graphyx | ~spell acquantence |
| 22:19.49 | graphyx | ~thanks. |
| 22:19.49 | ibot | gern geschehen, graphyx |
| 22:21.39 | sjansen | So I'm building a chrooted gentoo environment, try bind mounting some stuff and configuring it, have problems, decide to exit out and unpack the stage3 again. |
| 22:21.57 | sjansen | Only I'd forgotten to umount the binds. |
| 22:22.17 | sjansen | And then I realize this isn't the first time I've made that mistake. |
| 22:22.22 | sjansen | Seems I just don't learn. |
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| 22:24.59 | goozbach | sjansen: you xenifiy your laptop? |
| 22:25.07 | sjansen | not yet |
| 22:25.56 | goozbach | I did! :) |
| 22:26.29 | goozbach | one gig of ram 100G 7200rpm HD |
| 22:26.32 | goozbach | buhahaha |
| 22:26.55 | goozbach | now if only I could get the hypervisor to suspend... |
| 22:29.47 | sjansen | It's on my todo list. Maybe I'll let you do all the learning first, though. |
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| 23:05.42 | bonez39 | how does one change the screen resolution? |
| 23:05.45 | bonez39 | I think mine is at 800x600... after running apt-get upgrade.... |
| 23:05.55 | bonez39 | I forget the key combinations though, to change the resolution |
| 23:06.58 | byronc | bonez39: ctrl-alt-+ or ctrl-alt-- will change it if you have other resolutions configured |
| 23:08.23 | Hhhhh | hmm, anybody here uses kdevelop? |
| 23:09.05 | bonez39 | byronc, I think X.org got installed, but it may have reverted back to xserver...how do I tell which it is, and where do I add to the config options if it is X.org? |
| 23:09.05 | levi | Hhhhh: I've created a project in it, but didn't really 'use' it. And that was years ago, so it's probably changed. |
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| 23:13.44 | tensai | bonez39: xdpyinfo |
| 23:14.35 | tensai | Hhhhh: similar boat to levi. I used it in school way back when. I really liked it, but found it to be overkill for small projects which all I do now. |
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| 23:17.16 | bonez39 | tensai, thanks...very cool..I am running X.org video |
| 23:21.26 | levi | My current codebase is designed in such a way that it's pretty obvious what file I need to look in to find any given symbol, so I can't imagine kdevelop would really give me any advantage. |
| 23:24.56 | byronc | bonez39: open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for the "Screen" section |
| 23:25.14 | tensai | I also find it hard to edit code without vi key bindings. kvim has "issues" |
| 23:25.45 | byronc | bonez39: Once you find the "Screen" section, what is the DefaultDepth? |
| 23:26.03 | levi | You know, it's kind of funny that a lot of the people who were against pre-X versions of Mac OS and pre-NT versions of Windows because of lack of memory protection are now all gung-ho on threads. |
| 23:27.07 | Jayce^ | levi, glad I'm not the only one who's noticed that |
| 23:27.21 | Jayce^ | bugs the crap out of me |
| 23:27.21 | bonez39 | byronc, default depth: 16 |
| 23:27.55 | levi | I only very grudgingly allowed threads into my current software at work, and it's already bitten us once. |
| 23:28.03 | byronc | bonez39: ok, now look for the "Display" Subsection with depth 16 |
| 23:28.17 | byronc | bonez39: then you can add the modes you want to the "Modes" line |
| 23:28.28 | bonez39 | byronc, every section lists the same settings..... |
| 23:29.02 | bonez39 | each 'modes' line includes all the same settings....for all depths...a la > Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" |
| 23:29.38 | byronc | bonez39: ok, then you need to make sure your refresh rates are set right |
| 23:29.51 | levi | Unfortunately, the Linux i2c drivers pretty much require threads if you want to do non-blocking access to multiple i2c controllers. |
| 23:30.04 | byronc | bonez39: those settings would be in the "Monitor" section |
| 23:30.30 | levi | There's no asynchronous file-based access. |
| 23:31.49 | bonez39 | byronc, hmmm, my 'Monitor' section, Section "Monitor" |
| 23:31.49 | bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.49 | bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.49 | bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.49 | bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.50 | bonez39 | EndSection |
| 23:32.07 | bonez39 | that's my monitor section..and it seem consistent with what my video card specifications |
| 23:32.20 | tensai | levi: threads are at least safer in that they can't take down the entire system, just the one application |
| 23:32.34 | byronc | bonez39: that looks like it should be fine then |
| 23:32.54 | bonez39 | byronc, ok..... |
| 23:33.02 | byronc | bonez39: what happens when you use ctrl-alt-+ |
| 23:33.40 | bonez39 | byronc, the text gets bigger..... |
| 23:34.21 | levi | tensai: Sure, but it's the same problem at a different scale. |
| 23:34.27 | byronc | bonez39: you should just be able to keep pushing those keys until you get a different resolution |
| 23:34.29 | bonez39 | byronc, but not, I am getintg vertical lines up and down the screen......... |
| 23:34.51 | bonez39 | and it's jittery, but was OK, until I tried ctrl+alt++ |
| 23:35.07 | tensai | levi: true. I don't think threads should be undertaken lightly. they certainly are not a panacea. |
| 23:39.22 | bonez39 | byronc, it's odd...what would make the video get all jittery...and then clear up again? |
| 23:39.37 | bonez39 | byronc, is my system running at a resolution that is straining the ability of the video card? |
| 23:42.58 | byronc | bonez39: more likely the monitor |
| 23:43.42 | bonez39 | byronc, yeah, it's a bit lug....CTR..I need a new flatscreen... |
| 23:43.43 | tensai | my video card is all jittery at boot up because it's dying |
| 23:44.06 | tensai | Choose The Ray!!! |
| 23:45.20 | bonez39 | choose the ray? is that a CTR take-off? |
| 23:45.38 | tensai | bonez39: your monitor is a CRT :) |
| 23:46.08 | bonez39 | yes |
| 23:46.34 | lars-ut | Anybody have access to Azureus right now? |
| 23:46.59 | lars-ut | I'd like to try this trackerless magnet URI. |
| 23:47.02 | lars-ut | magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6WVSKD3RF4YDEIRSHWN5L66BAITLMGFZ |
| 23:48.08 | lars-ut | It's the ISO & md5 from the previous (2.1) version of Software for Starving Students |
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| 23:51.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Anyone here familiar with the stretch of 106th south near the freeway? |
| 23:51.57 | bonez39 | Lone_Wanderer, I know the area.... |
| 23:52.01 | bonez39 | what are you wonderng about it? |
| 23:52.07 | bonez39 | it's a mess right now..I'd reckon |
| 23:52.08 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm looking for something to eat |
| 23:52.18 | Lone_Wanderer | that's not fast food, but that is affordable |
| 23:52.23 | Lone_Wanderer | oh cripes, you're right |
| 23:52.27 | Lone_Wanderer | I'll put it off for an hour or so |
| 23:56.28 | levi | Mimi's is good, there's an Olive Garden, there's Jim's Family Diner... |
| 23:56.46 | levi | What's your price range, and what kind of food do you want? |
| 23:57.17 | levi | There's a Sampan in the mall there. |
| 23:57.36 | RyanE | If you go back down to 123rd, there's also Cafe Rio, and several others. |
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| 23:58.01 | RyanE | oh, and if you go west on 106th, there's a Kneaders Bakery that has some good sandwiches, etc. |
| 23:59.19 | lars-ut | Kneader's makes nummy potato chips |
| 23:59.32 | levi | Yeah, there's a bunch of good stuff on 123rd... that's where I usually go when I go out for lunch. |
| 23:59.45 | levi | 123rd has Guadalahonky's, too. |
| 23:59.57 | jsmith | Lone_Wanderer: There's a little soup and sandwich place next to Cafe Rio that's good -- called Zupas. |