| 00:00.04 | maquis | haha |
| 00:00.04 | goozbach | there's also the pouch: http://www.3gungear.com/images/people_pics/dump_sg.jpg |
| 00:00.46 | maquis | pmcnabb: as you can see, #utah is ready to take on the mcnabb dynasty |
| 00:01.13 | goozbach | lets see... 25 shells on the belt, |
| 00:01.18 | pmcnabb | maquis: it's not just us.. remember the fugals |
| 00:01.35 | maquis | pmcnabb: what? you're teaming up with the fugals? |
| 00:01.44 | goozbach | 8 shells on the forearm |
| 00:01.48 | pmcnabb | maquis, no, but you have to worry about them, too |
| 00:01.59 | maquis | pmcnabb: well... we've had that planned for a while :) |
| 00:02.06 | goozbach | 16 shells on the bandoleer |
| 00:02.16 | maquis | pmcnabb: you coming to provo anytime soon? |
| 00:02.31 | goozbach | 8 shells on the side saddle, |
| 00:02.39 | pmcnabb | maquis, possibly.. don't know yet |
| 00:02.58 | pmcnabb | goozbach: you might need something more like this for all those rounds: http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/1000/1005.htm |
| 00:02.58 | maquis | pmcnabb: well... good luck with the application... |
| 00:02.59 | brac | [USAS-12 Shotgun] |
| 00:03.04 | pmcnabb | maquis: thanks :) |
| 00:03.12 | goozbach | and 16 shells on the fore end |
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| 00:03.30 | goozbach | not to mention the pouch wich can carry ~24 |
| 00:03.47 | goozbach | and the 8 in the mag |
| 00:03.55 | goozbach | and the one in the chamber |
| 00:04.48 | goozbach | lets see that totals 108 shells |
| 00:04.54 | goozbach | I think I'm ready |
| 00:07.29 | goozbach | oh and this: http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0200/272.htm |
| 00:07.30 | brac | [Benelli M3T] |
| 00:08.25 | maquis | goozbach: you gonna play bzflag tonight? |
| 00:09.05 | goozbach | maquis: I gotta get ready for the RHCE tomorrow |
| 00:09.12 | maquis | goozbach: oh :( |
| 00:09.19 | goozbach | I don't have time to fix my segfaulting bzflag install |
| 00:12.59 | pmcnabb | goozbach: are you really ready? http://www.gilfillan.org/macnab/Revenge.html |
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| 00:13.18 | maquis | `ls`: question for you about bzflag |
| 00:14.13 | maquis | i was trying to run bzflag in window mode, but I couldn't figure out how to get out of the window when i needed to do something else (or to resize the window) |
| 00:14.21 | maquis | I didn't see it on the manpage, either |
| 00:18.09 | goozbach | shotgun > sword |
| 00:23.37 | TimRiker | maquis: under the input menu there is an option to constrain the mouse or not. |
| 00:23.56 | TimRiker | also if you pause and the mouse is constrained, it gets unconstrained. |
| 00:24.05 | maquis | TimRiker: ah... that's probably what i wanted |
| 00:25.26 | maquis | erm... |
| 00:25.27 | maquis | that didn't work |
| 00:35.03 | sjansen | ~bzfrag maquis |
| 00:35.06 | ibot | ACTION kills maquis with a shot from his BZTank |
| 00:52.04 | maquis | elg: that was fun :) |
| 01:00.57 | elg | watch out all, I trained maquis well |
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| 01:03.08 | graphyx | evening |
| 01:06.02 | elg | so far, yup |
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| 02:16.21 | graphyx | everyone bzfragging it? |
| 02:18.53 | SpecialZ | yup |
| 02:19.43 | Lone_Wanderer | is that fragging in bzflag? |
| 02:19.50 | graphyx | indeed |
| 02:29.02 | Lone_Wanderer | hmmm I had a question but I forgot what it was |
| 02:29.04 | Lone_Wanderer | drat |
| 02:33.52 | graphyx | happens to the best of is. |
| 02:35.38 | graphyx | s/is/us/ |
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| 03:33.34 | mheath | Wow, both of my shipments came a day early |
| 03:33.52 | mheath | Surprisingly, both of them were shipped using different methods (UPS and USPS) |
| 03:34.18 | SpecialZ | fraggin fraggin fraggin! |
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| 03:55.15 | fishyfire | anyone in ecen 370? |
| 03:55.43 | graphyx | where is that? |
| 03:55.48 | fishyfire | byu |
| 03:55.55 | graphyx | ahh... not i |
| 03:56.11 | graphyx | It's a what (class), not a where. |
| 03:56.36 | fishyfire | intro to probability theory |
| 03:57.04 | graphyx | fun |
| 03:57.23 | fishyfire | lol |
| 03:59.19 | fishyfire | i went to print off sample quizzes |
| 03:59.37 | fishyfire | and found the quizzes, but the answers i thought were there are nowhere to be found |
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| 04:22.42 | fishyfire | SpecialZ: are you in 370? |
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| 04:38.13 | mheath | Haha, this is awesome |
| 04:38.20 | mheath | Worst toy manufacturer screw up ever |
| 04:38.50 | fishyfire | ? |
| 04:38.52 | mheath | They put the wrong movie characters name on this toy |
| 04:38.59 | fishyfire | LOL |
| 04:39.03 | fishyfire | what toy? |
| 04:39.05 | mheath | "Edmund's Sword & Shield" (from The Chronicles of Narnia) |
| 04:39.13 | mheath | Edmund never gets a sword and shield. Not even in the books. |
| 04:39.15 | mheath | His brother does. |
| 04:39.45 | fishyfire | lol |
| 04:39.57 | mheath | Infact, the sword and shield that his brother receives in the movie looks just like "Edmnud's Sword & Shield" |
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| 04:53.29 | emcnabb | Media Play is closing all their stores |
| 04:53.30 | emcnabb | wow |
| 04:59.52 | mheath | I'm not surprised. |
| 05:00.08 | mheath | Their stores have declined massively in quality over the last couple of years, imho. |
| 05:02.34 | SpecialZ | yes, I'm in 370 |
| 05:02.34 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm, could someone do me a favor and check what happens when you hit http://67.186.244.23/ ? |
| 05:05.47 | mheath | ScytheBlade1: 403 |
| 05:05.51 | ScytheBlade1 | w00t |
| 05:06.08 | ScytheBlade1 | my IP is always a 403, and I need to update my DNS |
| 05:06.21 | ScytheBlade1 | But I just needed to make sure that forwarding was working correctly |
| 05:06.22 | ScytheBlade1 | thanks |
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| 13:51.48 | bonez39 | is it possible to have an email client like mutt release an email at some specific date in the future? |
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| 14:08.09 | graphyx | cronjob? |
| 14:08.50 | graphyx | cronjob that fires off an expect script that sends an smtp email? |
| 14:21.12 | bonez39 | graphyx, well, that sounds good....would the command to run mutt, to attach file "x" (the body of my message) then be how I'd send it? |
| 14:23.37 | graphyx | bonez39: My simple answer (simple as in not completely thought out) was just a basic script that connects to an smtp server and speaks smtp to it. I don't know how to attach a file in that context. I am sure the RFC would have a way of doing that but probably its not quite what you want. |
| 14:25.34 | bonez39 | graphyx, ok, someone else mentioned using 'at' to me..I am reading about that, to see how to setup a batch to run |
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| 15:13.59 | graphyx | morning jsmith |
| 15:14.09 | jsmith | Morning... |
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| 15:40.29 | goozbach | bonez39: $ at <sometime in the future> |
| 15:41.20 | goozbach | > cat /some/file | mail -s "dude it's the future" somedude@somehost.com |
| 15:41.29 | goozbach | > ^d |
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| 16:31.04 | tensai | anybody heard of phishreport.net? |
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| 16:32.53 | tensai | whoah, crap. they want $15,000 a year for "network mainenance fees" just to receive a list of known phishers |
| 16:33.03 | tensai | leave it to microsoft to create a scheme like that |
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| 16:46.32 | sjansen | ~jump tensai |
| 16:46.34 | ibot | ACTION scrambles up the nearest tree, screams, then leaps feet first on top of tensai |
| 16:55.35 | emcnabb | whatever happened to the sweet ibot I used to know? |
| 16:58.40 | tensai | ~smooch emcnabb |
| 16:58.41 | ibot | emcnabb: <smoochu> :-* |
| 17:00.18 | graphyx | ~hug emcbabb |
| 17:00.24 | ibot | ACTION hugs emcbabb |
| 17:00.24 | graphyx | ~hug emcnabb |
| 17:00.26 | ibot | ACTION hugs emcnabb |
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| 17:00.35 | graphyx | ~destroy emcnabb |
| 17:00.39 | ibot | no |
| 17:00.45 | graphyx | see.. he is still nice. |
| 17:00.56 | graphyx | ~gender |
| 17:01.01 | ibot | I'm pregnant |
| 17:10.34 | maquis | TimRiker: when bzflag is paused, i can't move my cursor out of the window still |
| 17:11.01 | maquis | but if you seti to just let the mouse go out anytime, then it makes it hard to play |
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| 17:16.14 | emcnabb | wow |
| 17:16.45 | emcnabb | ibot is nice |
| 17:16.54 | emcnabb | ~grouphug |
| 17:16.55 | ibot | ACTION hugs everbody and makes it all better... |
| 17:25.49 | sjansen | ~punch emcnabb |
| 17:25.51 | ibot | ACTION hits emcnabb like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist |
| 17:26.48 | graphyx | emcnabb: http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/ele/118302520.html |
| 17:27.47 | graphyx | Digital SLR camera on craigslist |
| 17:28.58 | jsmith | Too bad it's the D30 :-( |
| 17:30.14 | emcnabb | graphyx, was there a reason that link was directed towards me? just curious |
| 17:30.32 | graphyx | Oh.. I thought you were looking for one of those. Perhaps that was someone else asking for it. |
| 17:31.14 | emcnabb | don't think it was me |
| 17:31.26 | Jayce^ | emcnabb, because you're into photos, 'eh? photos, 'eh? photography 'eh? click click, nudge nudge, wink wink? |
| 17:33.59 | sjansen | Man, I love LVM. |
| 17:34.23 | sjansen | I started copying some stuff from my old hard drive, realized I didn't have enough space for everything, so I just enlarged the target filesystem while the copy was running. |
| 17:36.01 | graphyx | sjansen: LVM? |
| 17:36.49 | sjansen | ~lvm |
| 17:36.50 | ibot | from memory, lvm is Logical Volume Manager |
| 17:38.15 | sjansen | In a nutshell, LVM allows a single partitions to contain multiple filesystems and/or a single filesystem to span multiple partitions (even multiple physical devices). |
| 17:38.54 | sjansen | So instead of breaking out partition magic or manually repartitioning, all I had to do was: |
| 17:39.22 | sjansen | lvresize -L +5G -v /dev/vision/data |
| 17:39.24 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.41 | maquis | sjansen: how is that advantageous over using fdisk and e2resizefs? |
| 17:42.25 | jsmith | maquis: It was designed to be resized from the beginning.. e2resizefs is more dangerous. |
| 17:42.26 | sjansen | fdisk requires that everything be in nice contiguous blocks |
| 17:42.35 | maquis | jsmith: ah |
| 17:42.37 | maquis | sjansen: oh |
| 17:43.02 | maquis | e2resizefs is somewhat dangerous, but i managed to not lose anything when i used it htat one time |
| 17:43.18 | tensai | jsmith: if you're using ext[23] with lvm you still needs resize2fs |
| 17:43.23 | sjansen | resizing with fdisk is liking redesigning a lego structure held together with crazy glue, lvm is more like sculpting putty |
| 17:43.30 | maquis | took me a couple days to get everything running, but that was because i accidentally shrank my partition to be smaller than my filesystem |
| 17:43.34 | jsmith | sjansen: Well said. |
| 17:43.42 | maquis | sjansen: haha |
| 17:44.00 | jsmith | tensai: Not necessarily... I did it before e2resizefs was around (of course, this wasn't on LVM either) |
| 17:44.05 | tensai | maquis: if a partition changes while any file system on the disk is open the linux kernel won't re-read the partition table until reboot. lvm is instant. |
| 17:44.08 | jsmith | tensai: But I don't recommend my method :-( |
| 17:44.32 | tensai | jsmith: don't tell me you changed the filesystem with a hex editor |
| 17:45.00 | maquis | haha |
| 17:45.09 | sjansen | tensai: not entirely true, partprobe can force a re-read, and gnu parted knows how to send an ioctrl to trigger re-read also |
| 17:45.25 | jsmith | tensai: I'd never admit to something like that in a public forum -- people would think I'm crazy! |
| 17:45.37 | tensai | maquis: you can migrate blocks do a different physical disk using pvmove |
| 17:45.50 | tensai | sjansen: that's nice to know |
| 17:46.25 | sjansen | none the less, I feel safer rebooting after messing with a partition table |
| 17:46.53 | maquis | tensai: yeah.. i knew that part... i'm thinking for a poor student with 1 drive :) |
| 17:46.59 | tensai | maquis: partition tables have silly limits like only 4 primary partitions. if you want another you're screwed. |
| 17:47.16 | maquis | yeah... |
| 17:47.23 | tensai | maquis: lvm is immune to bus renumbering. if you move your disk from /dev/hda to /dev/hdc lvm won't care |
| 17:47.30 | maquis | i'm not sure i understand the distinction between primary and secondary partitions, though |
| 17:47.57 | tensai | maquis: have we convinced you yet? |
| 17:48.01 | maquis | sure |
| 17:48.29 | sjansen | DOS only allowed four partitions, to keep compatibility while allowing more partitions, the "extended partition" was created |
| 17:48.46 | maquis | i'm sure that it would've been easier to resize than it was when i went and did it all manually... (not to mention the fact that me, manually repartitioning and resizing disks is inherently dangerous) |
| 17:48.58 | sjansen | an extended partition is a special type of primary partition that can contain other partitions inside it |
| 17:49.16 | maquis | mmk |
| 17:49.32 | sjansen | basically, it's just an annoying historical limitation |
| 17:49.49 | maquis | there are a lot of annoying historical things in computers |
| 17:50.00 | sjansen | especially on PC's |
| 17:50.06 | maquis | like big-endian/little-endian stuff |
| 17:50.08 | tensai | maquis: there are some odd ordering requirements too that I've never bothered to learn |
| 17:52.31 | maquis | ah |
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| 18:01.59 | xbmodder_lappy | 3.5 years... |
| 18:02.58 | emcnabb | xbmodder_lappy, that's how many years on probation the judge gave you? |
| 18:04.17 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, no... |
| 18:04.36 | emcnabb | the system is corrupt! |
| 18:05.25 | xbmodder_lappy | very funny :) |
| 18:08.57 | RyanE | I also love LVM. I installed a new 200G drive, pvmoved' over all the data from another driver, removed it from the Volume Group, and uninstalled it. sooo easy. |
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| 18:10.33 | levi | Ahh, there we go. |
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| 18:23.13 | levi | Hi, sjansen. |
| 18:23.34 | goozbach | http://jakechristie.blogspot.com/2005/11/dos-and-donts-of-picking-up-girl-in.html |
| 18:23.36 | brac | [[this blog will be titled when inspiration strikes me]: The DOs and DON'Ts of Picking Up a Girl in the Computer Lab] |
| 18:24.01 | goozbach | may offend byu students |
| 18:24.02 | {-} | goozbach: Where were you when I needed that article four years ago? |
| 18:24.07 | goozbach | :) |
| 18:24.37 | TimRiker | maquis: hmm. can you use F1 to switch to full screen? |
| 18:25.00 | maquis | TimRiker: let me check |
| 18:25.23 | maquis | TimRiker: yes |
| 18:25.36 | TimRiker | :) |
| 18:25.38 | vontrapp | using Ruby/SDL to play an mp3, and it comes through with a slight bit of static, anyone used sdl before? had this problem? |
| 18:25.39 | maquis | even when i haven't even joined a game, though, i can't get out of the box |
| 18:26.16 | vontrapp | maquis: what box? |
| 18:26.17 | TimRiker | set the mouse to unconstrained in the input menu, then use f1 to play full screen and f1 to get back to unconstained window mode. |
| 18:26.33 | maquis | vontrapp: the window for bzflag |
| 18:26.37 | TimRiker | vontrapp: just having issues thinking outside the box. ;-) |
| 18:26.39 | maquis | TimRiker: true... that would probabl ywork |
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| 18:34.21 | levi | Gah, my stupid switch keeps flaking out and knocking my server off the net. |
| 18:43.43 | bonez39 | goozbach, that's a roar..... |
| 18:43.46 | bonez39 | that link |
| 18:45.03 | bonez39 | goozbach, your suggestion about the 'at' command, with the cat letter | mutt -s "dude it's the future" scott@fyrenice.com statement... I assume one creates a script file containing that and then invokes the script with 'filename at whatevertime' is that right? |
| 18:46.02 | goozbach | bonez39: nope |
| 18:46.06 | goozbach | it's the at command |
| 18:46.26 | goozbach | type it in to the shell exactly as seen |
| 18:46.51 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, lol, cool. |
| 18:56.15 | jlp_work | but don't use mutt in there, use mail, as in the example |
| 18:58.34 | jlp_work | and don't use cat, just mail -s subject somedude@somewhere.com < letter (google for "useless use of cat") |
| 18:59.21 | goozbach | the mail command should be installed on any sendmail-compatable system |
| 19:09.38 | emcnabb | it's about time: http://www.techworld.com/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=5002 |
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| 21:06.06 | graphyx | harleypig: I think you think they are funny but didn't want to disclose it. |
| 21:06.09 | graphyx | Freudian slip. |
| 21:08.58 | harleypig | graphyx: heh |
| 21:34.42 | TimRiker | tensai: DSL line went down. It's back now. |
| 21:34.47 | TimRiker | ~lart QWest |
| 21:35.58 | jlp_work | there's a qwest truck in front of our building, man hole open, and a big yellow ventilation tube leading down into the bowels of the earth |
| 21:36.01 | jlp_work | I fear it |
| 21:36.14 | jlp_work | it's never good when qwest guys are crawling around underground |
| 21:44.34 | jsmith | jlp_work: Nothing to fear, unless you see backhoes |
| 21:44.52 | goozbach | ok so that's odd. |
| 21:45.08 | goozbach | I called just now to change my flight... it was gonna cost me ~$250 |
| 21:45.25 | goozbach | but if I wait a little over an hour it won't cost me a thing |
| 21:45.31 | goozbach | go figure |
| 21:46.09 | tensai | is that because your flight leaves in half an hour? |
| 21:47.26 | goozbach | no, because it doesn't leave for another 4 hours |
| 21:48.06 | jsmith | goozbach: That is weird... I had that happen to me a few months back -- I called to change my flight a couple of hours before the flight and they said it was cheaper to take a later flight... so I did. |
| 21:48.55 | mheath | Hello. |
| 21:53.22 | emcnabb | http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/kill_a_watt_electric_usage_monitor_review |
| 21:53.23 | brac | [The Gadgeteer - Kill-A-Watt Electric Usage Monitor Review] |
| 21:57.08 | RyanE | emcnabb: the Kill-A-Watt has been popular with Home Automation types for years, since we run so many gadgets. :) |
| 21:57.09 | jsmith | emcnabb: I've got two of the "Pro" versions sitting on my desk |
| 21:57.18 | jsmith | emcnabb: They're nice. |
| 22:12.23 | emcnabb | I bet |
| 22:31.18 | maquis | goozbach: where you headed and when? |
| 22:31.20 | maquis | oh... |
| 22:31.21 | maquis | wait |
| 22:31.24 | maquis | probably headed here |
| 22:31.33 | maquis | so,that just leaves the "when" :) |
| 22:32.28 | maquis | hmmm |
| 22:37.12 | tensai | maquis: and the "another 4 hours" implies he's leaving at 18:45 |
| 22:37.40 | maquis | tensai: ah... good point |
| 22:37.42 | maquis | ummm... |
| 22:37.56 | maquis | any ideas for something involving sour cream, milk and eggs? |
| 22:37.56 | tensai | so now you know everything you ever wanted about goozbach |
| 22:38.14 | maquis | oh.. and cheese |
| 22:38.15 | jsmith | maquis: A yummy omelet? |
| 22:38.22 | tensai | french toast |
| 22:38.26 | vontrapp | maquis: cheddar alfredo |
| 22:38.26 | maquis | sour cream in an omelette? |
| 22:38.27 | jsmith | huevos rancheros? |
| 22:38.36 | jsmith | maquis: Yeah, goes on top of the salsa |
| 22:38.37 | tensai | sour cream and salsa |
| 22:38.42 | tensai | jsmith: oh yeah!!! |
| 22:38.44 | maquis | tensai: french toast implies the posession of bread |
| 22:38.56 | vontrapp | do you have noodles? |
| 22:38.59 | maquis | salsa... i can ditch the salsa and do it... |
| 22:39.03 | maquis | vontrapp: i do have some pasta |
| 22:39.10 | vontrapp | alfredo |
| 22:39.17 | vontrapp | i've done it several times |
| 22:39.19 | maquis | what all does alfredo imply? |
| 22:39.20 | tensai | jsmith: I mean drowns |
| 22:39.23 | graphyx | your putting pasta in an omlette? |
| 22:39.28 | vontrapp | do you have flour? |
| 22:39.38 | maquis | yes... i have flour |
| 22:39.40 | maquis | graphyx: no |
| 22:39.49 | tensai | maquis: spoon full of flour and some milk |
| 22:40.03 | vontrapp | cream would be better than milk, but it will work |
| 22:40.04 | goozbach | I was going to fly out at 16:45 |
| 22:40.09 | goozbach | pacific |
| 22:40.17 | maquis | goozbach: and instead? |
| 22:40.19 | goozbach | but it's now 15:40 |
| 22:40.38 | goozbach | and I still have 1:20 of test left |
| 22:40.54 | vontrapp | um, it's 15:40 MST |
| 22:41.00 | goozbach | plus the time needed to grade, package, and clean up after |
| 22:41.05 | goozbach | oh yeah |
| 22:41.07 | tensai | goozbach: I sure hope you're at the airport by now |
| 22:41.12 | goozbach | but still |
| 22:41.31 | neybar | has anyone done out going email scanning (for viruses) with exim? |
| 22:42.36 | vontrapp | maquis: for the cheddar alfredo (don't think it's an actual dish, something me and my mom made up) i use about 1/2 cup sour cream plus about the same amount of cheddar in place of the parmesan |
| 22:42.59 | maquis | vontrapp: hmmm... sounds ineresting |
| 22:43.12 | maquis | goozbach: so, what time are you changing it to? |
| 22:43.19 | goozbach | maquis: have any hamburger? |
| 22:43.25 | tensai | neybar: at one point I did but not now. it's been a while and I don't recall the details. |
| 22:43.29 | maquis | goozbach: actually, i do... frozen someplace |
| 22:43.40 | maquis | (hopefully frozen in the freezer) |
| 22:43.49 | goozbach | hamburger and flour gravy is pretty good |
| 22:44.08 | maquis | hmmm... |
| 22:44.28 | tensai | maquis: or a nice bechamel sauce for your omelet |
| 22:44.39 | maquis | ~dict bechamel |
| 22:45.05 | goozbach | maquis: hopefully 20:50 |
| 22:45.15 | goozbach | (if there's still a seat) |
| 22:45.17 | maquis | goozbach: ick :( |
| 22:45.19 | maquis | that's late |
| 22:45.47 | tensai | maquis: 4 parts butter and flour, melted and combined over low heat. add the milk (or cream, mmmm) slowly and stir until thick |
| 22:45.49 | goozbach | yeah but oh well |
| 22:46.07 | tensai | maquis: add some fresh cracked black pepper, pour over a cheese omelet |
| 22:46.14 | goozbach | very |
| 22:46.17 | vontrapp | tensai: parts milk? |
| 22:46.17 | goozbach | it stinks |
| 22:46.17 | tensai | "the milk" meaning 1 cup of milk |
| 22:46.20 | maquis | hmm... this sounds tasty |
| 22:46.29 | levi | You usually brown the flower in a roux, no? |
| 22:46.37 | vontrapp | tensai: you're mixing units |
| 22:46.42 | vontrapp | parts and cups |
| 22:46.50 | tensai | vontrapp: yeah, I'm horrible. I meant tablespoons |
| 22:47.05 | tensai | 4 T butter, 4 T flour, 1 C milk |
| 22:47.34 | vontrapp | yeah, that's the start of the alfredo, add the cheese and sour cream to that |
| 22:47.36 | Jayce^ | levi, no, that's an individual sauce requirement, nothing to do with a roux itself |
| 22:47.52 | Jayce^ | vontrapp, white sauce is the base for about 40% of sauces out there |
| 22:47.57 | vontrapp | yep |
| 22:48.10 | tensai | make that 2 T of butter and flour |
| 22:48.12 | vontrapp | or for real alfredo, you could add parmesan to that |
| 22:48.22 | tensai | or any cheese would taste good |
| 22:48.33 | tensai | 1/2 C would do |
| 22:48.33 | maquis | goozbach: sorry |
| 22:48.38 | maquis | goozbach: how are the students doing? |
| 22:48.45 | goozbach | don't ask... |
| 22:49.00 | goozbach | you know I can't answer that |
| 22:49.04 | maquis | and... how come the test is running so late? |
| 22:49.13 | goozbach | it's an RHCE |
| 22:49.22 | maquis | isn't it timed? |
| 22:49.24 | maquis | or am i wrong? |
| 22:49.29 | goozbach | yup |
| 22:49.33 | goozbach | we started late |
| 22:50.00 | goozbach | one student showed up late and we had to go all the way throught the instrustions again |
| 22:51.19 | graphyx | I guess the company wouldn't like it if you just didn't let them take the test, would it? |
| 22:53.57 | goozbach | there's a cut off |
| 22:54.12 | goozbach | once the exam has 'started' there's nothing I can do |
| 22:54.24 | goozbach | he showed up about 45seconds before that cut off |
| 23:02.55 | maquis | goozbach: you were too slow |
| 23:03.15 | maquis | you should've gone through it a little faster, and you would've ended on time |
| 23:08.34 | levi | Grr, the VOIP phone system here sucks. I often get calls connected where my voice doesn't go through. |
| 23:09.32 | *** join/#utah emcnabb (n=emcnabb@ip67-89-212-120.z212-89-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 23:12.26 | jsmith | levi: What type of system? |
| 23:13.12 | levi | jsmith: I have no idea how it works, but the phones are Mitel. |
| 23:14.02 | goozbach | http://theworstpageintheuniverse.com/images/parent_web1.jpg |
| 23:20.43 | levi | Heh, I changed the wrong O2 sensor on my car. Curse the stupid Haynes manual. :P |
| 23:20.56 | neybar | has anyone corralled a Sober.U virus? CBL is claiming that someone on my server is sending out that worm and I have virus scanning enabled on incoming and outgoing mail so I'm fairly sure it's not going out. ClamAV is doing an excellent job of identifying the EICAR virus, but that doen't prove much. |
| 23:27.50 | Jayce^ | neybar, was it just a virus that had one of your addy's in the From: ? |
| 23:29.26 | neybar | could be. |
| 23:29.48 | neybar | I just want to be able to go to CBL and say that it definately wasn't coming from me. |
| 23:30.24 | neybar | I am fairly certian it wasn't, but there are windows machines on the next work. (mainly mac network though) |
| 23:30.41 | neybar | s/next work/network/ |
| 23:32.10 | tensai | I think Sober has its own smtp agent, doesn't it? |
| 23:33.29 | neybar | that would be a bummer |
| 23:35.24 | tensai | so these machines are all behind a nat? |
| 23:35.40 | neybar | yes |
| 23:36.41 | tensai | can you put a packet sniffer in front or along side the nat router? |
| 23:37.51 | neybar | I'm not on location |
| 23:37.55 | jlp_work | neybar: did they send you a copy of the mail that contained the virus payload? check the received headers to see if it really did come from your network |
| 23:38.25 | jlp_work | if they contacted you because of the "from" header, just tell them the mail was likely forged and didn't come from your network |
| 23:38.40 | neybar | I haven't gotten anything from CBL actually. I just noticed that we were getting blocked, so I ran to spamhaus, and they directed me to CBL |
| 23:39.37 | neybar | I'm thinking some iptables magic might work. all out going traffic through port 25 is blocked except for my mail server. |
| 23:40.00 | tensai | that'll probably do it |
| 23:40.29 | jlp_work | that's always a good idea, anyway |
| 23:40.32 | tensai | it's a linux nat router? |
| 23:40.58 | tensai | jlp_work: I'll disagree with you on the "always" bit, but frequently it's a good idea |
| 23:41.01 | neybar | it's hacked netgear |
| 23:41.29 | tensai | neybar: does it have tcpdump? |
| 23:41.40 | neybar | I can probably get it |
| 23:41.49 | jlp_work | tensai: when is a good time to allow unrestricted port 25 outbound? (not beating you up about it, just curious on your point of view) |
| 23:43.00 | tensai | jlp_work: whenever it's not causing problems. I'm an open-by-default kind of guy. |
| 23:43.41 | vontrapp | what's a good program for imaging cds? (for windows or linux) |
| 23:44.19 | vontrapp | i'm trying cdclone, so far not impressed |
| 23:44.23 | jlp_work | tensai: if you've got windows machines on your net, it's a problem :-) |
| 23:44.29 | neybar | k3b usually works for me |
| 23:44.32 | tensai | jlp_work: :) |
| 23:44.41 | maquis | anyone else up for bzflag on phantom.byu.edu:5154 |
| 23:44.47 | tensai | I'll second k3b. dd/cdrecord is a good alternative. |
| 23:45.01 | tensai | maquis: get my boss to OK it and sure :) |
| 23:45.21 | vontrapp | for some reason i've never been able to image a cd with dd |
| 23:46.45 | *** join/#utah ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@c-67-186-244-23.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:48.54 | goozbach | suggestions for good network useage monitoring? |
| 23:49.05 | goozbach | I know of ntop and mrtg |
| 23:49.18 | jsmith | cacti |
| 23:49.29 | jsmith | Realtime, or graphed? |
| 23:49.52 | goozbach | either |
| 23:50.34 | jlp_work | trafshow for realtime |
| 23:52.15 | jsmith | cacti for graphed, trafshow for realtime is OK |
| 23:52.39 | jsmith | goozbach: sjansen did a writeup on several realtime monitors on Planet Guru Labs |
| 23:53.00 | goozbach | forgot about that |
| 23:54.17 | neybar | dang... I just realized I can't block port 25 traffic at the firewall. There are a few people who are getting and fetching mail from external servers. |
| 23:54.28 | jsmith | goozbach: Figured as much... |
| 23:54.57 | goozbach | fetching should have nothing to do with port 25 |
| 23:56.56 | neybar | but sending is |
| 23:57.18 | jlp_work | neybar: set up a socks proxy (authenticated) for them to use if they need to send mail directly to external servers... or check to see if the external servers support the smtp submission port (587) or smtps (465) ports as well as port 25 |
| 23:57.52 | neybar | socks might not be a bad idea |
