| 00:00.13 | mheath | Anyone aware of any free ways to convert PDF files to a format that can more easily be edited? |
| 00:00.26 | mheath | OR, a tool to convert PS files to a tool that can more easily be edited? |
| 00:01.13 | mheath | All I need to do is retain the overall quality (its an image and layout intensive PDF file) and add a block of text |
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| 00:11.24 | sjansen | heh |
| 00:11.55 | sjansen | mheath: yeah, google for "adobe acrobat warez" |
| 00:12.38 | tensai | pdf2ps, ps2epsi, then any program that supports eps. OOo draw, inkscape, etc. |
| 00:13.00 | tensai | gimp can import pdfs but it will rasterize them. that's fine if that's going to be its final destination |
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| 00:50.41 | maquis | ~invoke specialk |
| 00:55.43 | goozbach | ~invoke the invoker |
| 00:55.51 | goozbach | buhahah |
| 01:04.24 | maquis | -lart goozbach |
| 01:10.33 | goozbach | that thread was a GREAT read |
| 01:10.44 | maquis | ?????????? |
| 01:10.50 | goozbach | PLUG |
| 01:10.52 | goozbach | today |
| 01:10.58 | maquis | the suse thread? |
| 01:11.04 | goozbach | yup |
| 01:11.06 | maquis | ah... |
| 01:11.12 | maquis | wasn't that mostly yesterday? |
| 01:11.21 | goozbach | ok yesterday |
| 01:11.23 | goozbach | my bad |
| 01:11.31 | maquis | mmk |
| 01:13.02 | Newsome | Hmmm...I wonder what it means when, instead of maintaining a list of mailing addresses for my friends, I just do a whois on their homepages... |
| 01:13.24 | ScytheBlade1 | You've got the right kind of friends ;) |
| 01:14.17 | goozbach | hah! |
| 01:14.18 | Newsome | Hopefully they've got the right addresses with the registrar, because if not, they won't get their Christmas cards in time |
| 01:15.33 | maquis | Newsome: nice |
| 01:16.01 | goozbach | and I thought I was a geek... |
| 01:19.52 | Newsome | ~seen djsmith |
| 01:19.55 | ibot | i haven't seen 'djsmith', Newsome |
| 01:20.00 | Newsome | dork |
| 01:21.46 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:21.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Note to self: when all forms of networking fail, check to make sure that lo is up. |
| 01:28.31 | goozbach | http://just-ping.com/ |
| 01:32.21 | mheath | tensai pdf2ps, ps2epsi, then any program that supports eps. OOo draw, inkscape, etc. |
| 01:32.26 | mheath | Does that usually work well, then? |
| 01:32.44 | mheath | I've been trying some ghostscript-based tools that do someting similar on my windows computer... |
| 01:32.52 | mheath | Problem seems to be, they're dropping off the main image |
| 01:32.57 | mheath | They do it perfectly other than that |
| 01:33.35 | mheath | and epsi == eps? |
| 01:41.53 | mheath | erm, pdf2ps is spitting out blank pages. |
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| 02:56.55 | emcnabb | so full... |
| 02:59.45 | graphyx | spr: signal handling What script is important enough to use that? |
| 03:00.58 | emcnabb | I use signal handling even in bash scripts sometimes |
| 03:01.14 | emcnabb | how does the app respond to ctrl-c, etc |
| 03:01.32 | spr | graphyx, flac -> ogg/mp3 recursive encoding script |
| 03:01.52 | spr | emcnabb, what do you mean? Like what I'm doing in the signal handler? |
| 03:02.12 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 03:02.35 | spr | I'm just killing the current children (flac, lame, oggenc), and then deleting a temp file and exiting |
| 03:02.58 | emcnabb | $ help trap |
| 03:03.51 | spr | nifty |
| 03:04.42 | graphyx | What does that do emcnabb? |
| 03:08.11 | emcnabb | ex: let's say that you don't want a user to be able to terminate a script by pressing ctrl-c (SIGINT) |
| 03:08.18 | emcnabb | you could add the following to your script: |
| 03:08.28 | emcnabb | trap "" INT |
| 03:08.47 | maquis | emcnabb: why would you not want them to be able to terminate it? |
| 03:09.49 | maquis | it generally annoys me that bc doesn't let you quit with ctrl-c |
| 03:10.14 | emcnabb | what the script is going to do several crucial things, and canceling it in the system would make the machine in a partial state |
| 03:10.34 | emcnabb | I don't use it a lot, but I have done it before |
| 03:10.41 | emcnabb | "what if" |
| 03:10.46 | maquis | emcnabb: hmmm choice between partial state or bad state... :) |
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| 03:11.07 | emcnabb | well you shouldn't have run it in the first place |
| 03:11.20 | maquis | emcnabb: true... |
| 03:11.32 | maquis | but sometimes i forget to think before hitting enter :) |
| 03:11.37 | maquis | -lart pmcnabb |
| 03:11.40 | emcnabb | then I think that is the problem |
| 03:11.56 | emcnabb | pmcnabb, hello baby brother |
| 03:12.19 | maquis | emcnabb: true... it is the problem |
| 03:12.23 | pmcnabb | this isn't as fun as i thought it'd be |
| 03:12.33 | pmcnabb | i get picked on by my own mafia family |
| 03:12.41 | maquis | pmcnabb: you don't like the icy-hot in your lip balm? |
| 03:12.46 | emcnabb | ~whaleslap pmcnabb |
| 03:12.47 | ibot | I'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap pmcnabb over the head with it..... |
| 03:13.00 | emcnabb | much better |
| 03:13.07 | maquis | ibot: you're supposed to do it, not say you'll do it! |
| 03:13.13 | maquis | -lart emcnabb |
| 03:13.26 | maquis | ooh... i got both of them at once! |
| 03:13.41 | pmcnabb | i'm also so unacquainted with #utah men and things |
| 03:14.31 | maquis | pmcnabb: it's easy... ~ tells ibot to do something, and - tells brac to do things :) |
| 03:14.46 | maquis | as for the men... well.. .they're a bit weird :) |
| 03:15.23 | graphyx | the girls are much weirder. |
| 03:15.41 | maquis | :) |
| 03:15.42 | graphyx | ~maquis maquis |
| 03:15.43 | ibot | ACTION breaks maquis just by looking in maquis's direction |
| 03:16.01 | maquis | graphyx: you've got to make it singular for now |
| 03:16.02 | graphyx | who put that on in there? |
| 03:16.14 | graphyx | maquis: There isn't another girl on #utah? |
| 03:16.14 | maquis | no idea... i liked the previous one better... :) |
| 03:16.23 | maquis | graphyx: there is one... but she's not here right now... |
| 03:16.23 | graphyx | I don't know what that one was. |
| 03:16.31 | spr | ~fish pmcnabb |
| 03:16.33 | ibot | ACTION slaps pmcnabb around with a large trout |
| 03:16.48 | graphyx | -say ~poke brac |
| 03:16.48 | brac | insufficient "say" auth (have 10, need 70) |
| 03:16.53 | emcnabb | my Mac mini is in the mail; it should be here tomorrow or Thursday |
| 03:16.58 | graphyx | ~say -lart ibot |
| 03:16.59 | ibot | -lart ibot |
| 03:17.05 | emcnabb | but I'm not allowed to open it until Christmas |
| 03:17.13 | graphyx | emcnabb: Why would you want a mini mac |
| 03:17.19 | graphyx | They are rather underpowered. |
| 03:17.22 | graphyx | We got some for work. |
| 03:17.28 | emcnabb | for what? |
| 03:17.38 | graphyx | and the team that had to use them prefered using linuxized dells over the mini macs |
| 03:17.38 | emcnabb | I want a MacOS X box |
| 03:17.43 | graphyx | Ok. |
| 03:17.45 | maquis | ~maquis |
| 03:17.46 | ibot | I don't give that kind of information to filthy cardassian spies |
| 03:17.46 | emcnabb | I don't want to spend a lot of money |
| 03:18.05 | graphyx | ahh.. the identity property. |
| 03:18.09 | emcnabb | I'm not going to be doing massive graphics editing, video editing, etc |
| 03:18.14 | graphyx | -maquis maquis |
| 03:19.23 | emcnabb | and the spec's aren't horrible |
| 03:21.48 | maquis | why are my roommates screaming????????? |
| 03:22.29 | emcnabb | because you used so many "?????????????" !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:22.46 | maquis | :-P |
| 03:23.05 | maquis | pmcnabb: so, what have you been up to since you got off your mission? |
| 03:23.40 | emcnabb | drugs, loose women, gangs - the works |
| 03:24.43 | maquis | emcnabb: you should be nice to your little brother! :) |
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| 03:31.20 | pmcnabb | i can't remember what i've been up to.. it's been so long |
| 03:31.33 | maquis | pmcnabb: you were in washington, right? |
| 03:31.38 | pmcnabb | yes, tacoma |
| 03:31.50 | maquis | home for me is in the everett washington mission |
| 03:32.02 | pmcnabb | i'm sorry |
| 03:32.06 | maquis | ?? |
| 03:32.09 | pmcnabb | just kidding |
| 03:32.12 | maquis | :) |
| 03:32.28 | maquis | some rivalry between hte missions, eh? |
| 03:32.54 | maquis | i'll be living in the seattle mission when i graduate... |
| 03:33.10 | maquis | Newsome: which one? we've got a couple now... |
| 03:33.17 | Newsome | Spokane |
| 03:33.27 | Newsome | It covered everything up to the Cascades |
| 03:33.53 | maquis | Newsome: ah... i think there's 2 or 3 over there now :) |
| 03:33.57 | maquis | i know there's one for kennewick |
| 03:34.11 | pmcnabb | There's 5 (Everett, Seattle, Tacoma, Kennewick, Spokane) |
| 03:34.13 | Newsome | yeah, Kennewick used to be part of the Spokane Mission |
| 03:34.20 | maquis | back when i was little, i used to be in the tacoma mission... then they made everett and seattle |
| 03:34.43 | spr | bah, real missions have multiple states in them |
| 03:34.55 | maquis | spr: where'd you go? |
| 03:35.15 | jsmith | spr: States... try countries! |
| 03:35.15 | spr | Arkansas, though we could serve in Missouri, Tenn., and Miss. |
| 03:35.25 | maquis | spr: cool |
| 03:35.34 | emcnabb | go Tijuana! |
| 03:35.42 | spr | not that it covered all of any of them |
| 03:35.53 | emcnabb | I'm so close to it this week, but I want to make it back to class the next day |
| 03:35.54 | spr | jsmith, amcnabb tends to make comments like that too.. |
| 03:35.54 | Newsome | We had most of Washington, Northern Idaho, Western Montana, and Northern Oregon. Oh, and one of our stakes went up into BC. |
| 03:36.21 | maquis | Newsome: okanogan? |
| 03:36.26 | maquis | is that the stake that went into bc? |
| 03:36.59 | maquis | emcnabb: my grandmother can go down there on her own and makes it back (somehow)... |
| 03:37.08 | maquis | you could get down and back :) |
| 03:37.25 | emcnabb | well, I'd be going to places where Grandma would not go |
| 03:37.30 | maquis | she says that the trick is to dress and act as if you're really poor... |
| 03:37.39 | Newsome | maquis: I doubt it. I'll see if I can remember exactly where it was |
| 03:37.54 | emcnabb | there the part of downtown where tourist go, and there is Tijuana |
| 03:38.04 | maquis | emcnabb: my grandma doesn't go there as a tourist |
| 03:38.07 | maquis | my mom was born there |
| 03:38.11 | maquis | as was my aunt |
| 03:38.25 | emcnabb | what part? |
| 03:38.55 | maquis | emcnabb: i'm not quite certain which part... they came to the US when my mom was 4... |
| 03:39.06 | emcnabb | very cool |
| 03:39.09 | maquis | :) |
| 03:39.26 | maquis | that's why i've learned a bit of spanish... my grandma doesn't speak english... |
| 03:39.38 | maquis | (she used to be able to speak a bit... but she's forgetting it all) |
| 03:39.52 | jsmith | emcnabb: You'll make it back just fine, as long as you don't eat the ice cream... |
| 03:40.02 | maquis | or anything else.... |
| 03:40.03 | Newsome | maquis: I think it was the area north of Omak, but it was covered by a senior couple. |
| 03:40.11 | maquis | Newsome: mmk |
| 03:40.38 | graphyx | bad media |
| 03:40.54 | maquis | jsmith: some areas are if you look like you have money... most is if you drink the water or eat the food... |
| 03:41.02 | emcnabb | I lived in Tijuana, and I know it's dangerous |
| 03:41.18 | pmcnabb | I visited Tijuana, and I got sick |
| 03:41.28 | emcnabb | I got mugged at gun point, had knives pulled on me, chased by gangs all the time, etc |
| 03:41.45 | maquis | emcnabb: interesting... |
| 03:41.59 | emcnabb | I've traveled all across southern Mexico too |
| 03:42.03 | emcnabb | via bus |
| 03:42.19 | maquis | emcnabb: you were in a suit... therefore, you looked like you had money... |
| 03:42.28 | jsmith | maquis: Exactly... |
| 03:42.32 | emcnabb | acutally, most people respected missionaries |
| 03:42.36 | emcnabb | and even defended us |
| 03:43.00 | emcnabb | http://evan.mcnabbs.org/photoalbum/mexico2001/ |
| 03:43.25 | emcnabb | that's from a while back |
| 03:43.35 | pmcnabb | Let me guess... 2001? |
| 03:44.30 | emcnabb | we're going to Queretaro in April |
| 03:44.33 | emcnabb | pmcnabb, when are you going? |
| 03:45.04 | pmcnabb | emcnabb, i don't know yet (when or if) |
| 03:46.42 | graphyx | emcnabb: You gonna have any kids soon? |
| 03:46.58 | emcnabb | when the time is right |
| 03:47.08 | pmcnabb | emcnabb, when's that? |
| 03:47.14 | emcnabb | when the time is right |
| 03:47.36 | pmcnabb | emcnabb: i'd like to be an uncle, and it would grow our mafia family |
| 03:47.36 | graphyx | fair nuf' |
| 03:47.49 | emcnabb | pmcnabb, you should do something about it |
| 03:47.58 | emcnabb | (growing the mafia) |
| 03:48.15 | graphyx | emcnabb: I don't think he could do any direct action towards him becoming an uncle. |
| 03:48.55 | emcnabb | (that's why I put the comment after it in (), to clarify what I was saying) |
| 03:49.02 | graphyx | of course. |
| 03:49.10 | graphyx | But it was a fun come back anyway. |
| 03:50.11 | pmcnabb | i think i can only strengthen our mafia by stifling the opposing mafia |
| 03:50.24 | graphyx | how would you do that? |
| 03:50.32 | graphyx | Set up a DoS script against the fugals? |
| 03:50.32 | spr | So what mafia is the McNabb rival? |
| 03:50.42 | maquis | spr: the fugals |
| 03:50.51 | pmcnabb | graphyx, that's certainly one way |
| 03:51.15 | emcnabb | pmcnabb, why are you discussing our tactics in a public forum? |
| 03:51.19 | spr | maquis, yeah, that should have been obvious. The Fugals are ahead in local control though. |
| 03:51.21 | emcnabb | shame on you |
| 03:51.39 | pmcnabb | emcnabb, if there's no fear of us, how would we get any control? |
| 03:51.41 | emcnabb | spr, not as much as they used to be though |
| 03:51.43 | graphyx | emcnabb: You have to start using italian pronunciation and diction. |
| 03:52.01 | graphyx | Go watch mickey blue eyes!! |
| 03:52.10 | emcnabb | ~knock-off graphyx |
| 03:52.18 | maquis | not really... |
| 03:52.24 | maquis | hans isn't even around |
| 03:52.33 | maquis | so, it's just vontrapp today |
| 03:52.33 | spr | emcnabb, also, the mcnabb control of the system office is weakening. |
| 03:52.43 | graphyx | emcnabb: There you go.. get brac functions implemented. |
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| 03:53.05 | graphyx | oh yeah.. you've got mail has some classic mafia statments. |
| 03:53.12 | emcnabb | pmcnabb, time to transfer to BYU |
| 03:53.24 | emcnabb | -knock-off graphyx |
| 03:53.50 | graphyx | emcnabb: I said implement, not just use. |
| 03:54.12 | emcnabb | just seeing if it had been implemented |
| 03:54.25 | graphyx | fair enough. |
| 03:54.25 | pmcnabb | emcnabb, know anyone who works in admissions? |
| 03:54.37 | graphyx | yes, but he doesn't admit it. |
| 03:54.45 | graphyx | j/k |
| 03:55.09 | emcnabb | I've got connections |
| 03:55.11 | maquis | pmcnabb: he got in... :) |
| 03:55.20 | emcnabb | there are miracles |
| 03:56.54 | graphyx | anyone else ever seen this one? |
| 03:56.55 | graphyx | We're sorry...... but we can't process your request right now. A computer virus or spyware application is sending us automated requests, and it appears that your computer or network has been infected. We'll restore your access as quickly as possible, so try again soon. In the meantime, you might want to run a virus checker or spyware remover to make sure that your computer is free of viruses and other spurious software. We apologize for the inconvenience, and h |
| 03:57.34 | graphyx | I did a request with /bin/ in it. |
| 03:57.36 | graphyx | I think that tipped it. |
| 03:57.51 | graphyx | which is a shame. |
| 03:58.14 | maquis | graphyx: i prefer the emails that say "there is a virus that has been circulating on the web.... please run the virus-scanner/removal tool that is attached to this email" |
| 03:58.15 | jsmith | graphyx: Uh, yeah... that's a little... well... |
| 03:58.20 | graphyx | and now I can't even google for a solution to the problem. |
| 03:58.31 | graphyx | ;) |
| 03:58.53 | graphyx | I was doing a request of a clients site to see if they have any pages that have been cached that is indicative of a vulnerable page or file on the server. |
| 03:59.07 | graphyx | so I kinda asked for it. |
| 03:59.28 | jsmith | maquis: My favorite was ABC news the other morning... they said to make sure your antivirus definitions are up to date, and that you're using a firewall, so that you don't fall victim to the latest phishing scams. |
| 03:59.40 | maquis | jsmith: htat rocks! |
| 03:59.42 | graphyx | I figured if any page actually had /bin/ on it there was a misconfiguration of the web server that could be used. |
| 03:59.53 | graphyx | jsmith: Did you tell that one to me earlier? |
| 03:59.59 | graphyx | it sounds really familiar. |
| 04:01.08 | emcnabb | how do the mdadm and dmraid commands relate? |
| 04:01.16 | emcnabb | I've never used dmraid before |
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| 04:02.28 | maquis | ack |
| 04:02.37 | amcnabb | Hey, pmcnabb. |
| 04:02.40 | emcnabb | hello amcnabb |
| 04:02.42 | amcnabb | Haven't seen you on here before. |
| 04:02.44 | pmcnabb | hey amcnabb |
| 04:02.45 | amcnabb | Hello emcnabb |
| 04:02.51 | pmcnabb | hey emcnabb |
| 04:02.59 | emcnabb | hey pmcnabb |
| 04:04.02 | amcnabb | ~lart spr |
| 04:04.12 | spr | ~bake amcnabb |
| 04:04.33 | spr | err... |
| 04:04.38 | spr | ~cook amcnabb |
| 04:04.40 | ibot | ACTION throws amcnabb in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks amcnabb on 350 for an hour |
| 04:05.07 | graphyx | Ok this is interesting.. |
| 04:05.30 | graphyx | IF you make a request on google for the word powered. It will give you the virus warning. |
| 04:05.43 | pmcnabb | and then mcnabbs.org |
| 04:06.49 | spr | graphyx, you mean search for 'powered'? |
| 04:07.23 | graphyx | no just the word powered. |
| 04:07.30 | emcnabb | it doesn't for me |
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| 04:07.36 | graphyx | but with quotes works as well. |
| 04:07.40 | xbmodder_ | do you know of any place where I can get a Colo with an IPV6 address? |
| 04:07.44 | amcnabb | I'm not seeing either of those results |
| 04:07.49 | graphyx | interesting. |
| 04:07.52 | spr | I'm clean |
| 04:08.07 | xbmodder_ | anyone here have IPv6? |
| 04:08.10 | jsmith | xbmodder_: There are about a dozen colos in your neighborhood that will give you IPv6 addresses |
| 04:08.30 | graphyx | I think it would be easier to find colos giving out ipv6 than ipv4. |
| 04:09.25 | xbmodder_ | jsmith: do you know any that are _good_ |
| 04:09.37 | xbmodder_ | and relatively cheap |
| 04:09.47 | jsmith | xbmodder_: good != cheap |
| 04:10.02 | jsmith | xbmodder_: How much rack space do you need? How cheap is "relatively cheap" |
| 04:11.01 | xbmodder_ | Well, we are thinking of starting with a VPS then moving up to a colo, but enough for 2 1U servers |
| 04:11.11 | xbmodder_ | and cheap means under 1k |
| 04:11.32 | jsmith | http://www.he.com/colo_ipv6.html |
| 04:11.33 | brac | [Colocation Services at Hurricane Electric - IPv6 Services] |
| 04:11.50 | jsmith | xbmodder_: They'll let you choose from several colo facilities |
| 04:11.58 | jsmith | xbmodder_: And they're just one of many |
| 04:12.11 | xbmodder_ | do you know any VPS providers which provide IPv6? |
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| 04:13.17 | jsmith | Maybe Verio? |
| 04:13.50 | xbmodder_ | too poor right now... :( |
| 04:14.04 | maquis | s |
| 04:14.07 | xbmodder_ | verio is what comes up on google |
| 04:14.23 | graphyx | xbmodder_: How can you be too poor to purchase a VPS from verio and not be too poor to get a colo? |
| 04:14.33 | maquis | so... gmail has a little "clips" thing where you can get 1 news item from a rss feed at the top of your inbox... |
| 04:14.53 | maquis | the fun part is, if you go to the spam folder, they have spam recipes |
| 04:14.54 | jsmith | maquis: Yes.... and? |
| 04:14.58 | xbmodder_ | graphyx: I never said I can purchase a VPS frop verio |
| 04:15.00 | jsmith | Really? |
| 04:15.09 | maquis | jsmith: yup :) |
| 04:15.24 | jsmith | maquis: Nice! |
| 04:15.35 | xbmodder_ | the day that linode gets IPv6 I will buy one |
| 04:15.51 | graphyx | xbmodder_: Why are you so anxious for ipv6? |
| 04:15.57 | jsmith | xbmodder_: Do you really need IPv6? |
| 04:16.08 | jsmith | xbmodder_: And if you really do, why not just use a tunnel broker? |
| 04:16.52 | xbmodder_ | graphyx: long story.. |
| 04:17.02 | graphyx | so does anyone dare say that 65K ports are enough for anybody? |
| 04:17.24 | graphyx | seems like it is a reasonable thing to say, but I wonder if there would ever be a point at which it wasn't enough. |
| 04:17.50 | tensai | ~x en fr yes |
| 04:17.52 | jsmith | graphyx: I've never had a problem with only 65k ports... if you need more than that, you should probably invest in more hardware :-) |
| 04:18.25 | graphyx | jsmith: That was what I was thinking myself. that servers rarely use more than 30-40 open ports. |
| 04:18.30 | amcnabb | ~seen lmcnabb |
| 04:18.35 | ibot | amcnabb: i haven't seen 'lmcnabb' |
| 04:18.49 | amcnabb | ~seen zmcnabb |
| 04:18.50 | ibot | i haven't seen 'zmcnabb', amcnabb |
| 04:18.54 | graphyx | lmcnabb? How many of you are there? |
| 04:18.59 | amcnabb | :) |
| 04:18.59 | graphyx | ~resistance |
| 04:19.00 | ibot | it has been said that resistance is futile |
| 04:19.09 | jsmith | graphyx: All depends on the server... I've seen them use thousands, but never close to 65k |
| 04:19.32 | xbmodder_ | graphyx: I have had odd problems with some programs allocating too many ports |
| 04:19.35 | graphyx | true for proxy setups they can have tons of ports open. |
| 04:20.15 | pmcnabb | i just thought i saw "How many of you are there?" "All depends of the server.. I've seen thousands of them" |
| 04:20.44 | *** join/#utah lmcnabb (n=lisa@70-57-88-164.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 04:20.53 | emcnabb | hello lmcnabb |
| 04:21.05 | amcnabb | hello lmcnabb |
| 04:21.07 | pmcnabb | hey lmcnabb |
| 04:21.10 | maquis | lisa: sup? |
| 04:21.12 | lmcnabb | hi mafia |
| 04:21.22 | amcnabb | :) |
| 04:21.40 | amcnabb | lmcnabb, where's zmcnabb? |
| 04:21.43 | amcnabb | (ask Evan) |
| 04:21.46 | lmcnabb | just finished emnabbs' christmas shopping...he's so lucky he has a wife now |
| 04:22.01 | maquis | lmcnabb: cool :) |
| 04:22.06 | pmcnabb | lmcnabb, can you shop for me, too? |
| 04:22.17 | lmcnabb | it will cost you...you saw the link |
| 04:22.19 | amcnabb | yeah |
| 04:24.32 | maquis | lmcnabb: how's life going for you? |
| 04:25.26 | lmcnabb | it's nice |
| 04:25.33 | maquis | cool :) |
| 04:26.01 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone who saw the job link on plug and is interested contact me - the guy who sent that is a recruiter. You'll get straight to the source through me (plus I get a bonus). |
| 04:26.31 | xbmodder_ | is Evan's wife in here? |
| 04:26.48 | xbmodder_ | lmcnabb: hi... |
| 04:26.48 | emcnabb | yes |
| 04:26.53 | lmcnabb | hi |
| 04:27.01 | graphyx | Uncle_Jesse: When did you send it? |
| 04:27.13 | xbmodder_ | wow... the "mcnabb" gang |
| 04:28.00 | pmcnabb | yes, except for for dmcnabb (donovan.. our cousin) |
| 04:28.19 | graphyx | emcnabb: is lmcnabb the wife? |
| 04:28.21 | emcnabb | our "brotha from a different motha" |
| 04:28.30 | emcnabb | graphyx, yeah |
| 04:28.42 | graphyx | does she really chat on irc? |
| 04:28.52 | emcnabb | not usually |
| 04:28.54 | graphyx | Or did you set her up just to boost your stats? |
| 04:29.05 | emcnabb | she's been on before |
| 04:29.26 | maquis | lmcnabb is also helping the "girls on irc" stats... :) |
| 04:29.50 | lmcnabb | :) |
| 04:30.40 | graphyx | well anyways.. I'm outta here. |
| 04:31.10 | graphyx | wish my luck. I gotta job interview at omniture tomorrow |
| 04:31.14 | graphyx | 2nd interview. |
| 04:31.15 | graphyx | ;) |
| 04:32.57 | emcnabb | good luck, captain. |
| 04:34.24 | maquis | good luck graphyx |
| 04:34.32 | mheath | 'Captain'....hmmm. |
| 04:34.45 | mheath | Wow, that term means too much to me now. |
| 04:36.42 | emcnabb | mheath, you feeling better? |
| 04:38.39 | mheath | Indeed. |
| 04:39.27 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone here good at php? |
| 04:39.28 | *** join/#utah spr (n=spr@c-24-10-236-93.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 04:39.35 | spr | ~lart comcast |
| 04:39.59 | maquis | spr: what's comcast doing to you? |
| 04:40.09 | spr | oh, dropping our connection. |
| 04:40.15 | mheath | What does graph*x (name altered to prevent his computer from beeping and annoying him) have to do with "captain"? O.o |
| 04:40.17 | Uncle_Jesse | spr: I said the same thing earlier today - they must be on a roll |
| 04:40.28 | mheath | My comcast connection has been pretty reliable lately. |
| 04:40.30 | Uncle_Jesse | they decided to add a cable modem to my account that I never got from them |
| 04:40.33 | pmcnabb | spr, amcnabb didn't disconnect? |
| 04:40.37 | mheath | If only I could say the same thing about their DNS servers... |
| 04:40.42 | spr | pmcnabb, amcnabb is at school |
| 04:40.45 | mheath | I keep meaning to set up a caching local DNS server, but I'm lazy. |
| 04:40.46 | Uncle_Jesse | this is the 3rd time they did that |
| 04:40.54 | pmcnabb | spr, gotcha |
| 04:40.56 | amcnabb | pmcnabb, I'm in the library. |
| 04:41.06 | Uncle_Jesse | okay - this is weird |
| 04:41.12 | Uncle_Jesse | who's pmcnabb? |
| 04:41.20 | amcnabb | Peter |
| 04:41.21 | pmcnabb | number 3 |
| 04:41.40 | emcnabb | mheath, nothing |
| 04:41.40 | mheath | Plural McNabbs. |
| 04:42.00 | mheath | emcnabb: Odd use of the term. |
| 04:42.36 | Uncle_Jesse | woah - 3 mcnabbs |
| 04:42.40 | mheath | Skipper, Captain, CO, Sir, Mam, |
| 04:42.46 | emcnabb | I'll make sure not to say it any more |
| 04:42.46 | emcnabb | sorry |
| 04:42.58 | mheath | emcnabb: Thanks, skipper. |
| 04:43.00 | mheath | ;) |
| 04:43.26 | vmcnabb | ;) |
| 04:43.43 | emcnabb | we have been infiltrated! |
| 04:43.48 | mheath | I need to not do nick changes on this netowrk |
| 04:43.56 | mheath | I forget how many big channels I'm in... |
| 04:44.32 | emcnabb | anything new in the Hurd world? |
| 04:44.57 | mheath | emcnabb: Yes. |
| 04:44.57 | spr | http://momastore.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=29728 |
| 04:44.59 | brac | [MoMAstore - Cardboard Speakers] |
| 04:45.05 | mheath | Don't subscribe to any Hurd related mailing lists |
| 04:45.11 | mheath | They are annoying, spammy, and a waste of time. |
| 04:45.39 | emcnabb | anything particularly interesting? |
| 04:45.51 | mheath | No. |
| 04:46.10 | mheath | The Hurd developers are unorganized, argumentative people |
| 04:46.14 | mheath | They never accomplish anything |
| 04:46.30 | emcnabb | that's what I've heard |
| 04:46.40 | mheath | There was a giant mailing list thread that went back and forth for, oh, 50+ messages.... |
| 04:47.11 | mheath | Some guy apparently created a branch in CVS that ams-before-<some foreign curse word I don't know, that basically meant screw up> |
| 04:47.27 | mheath | ams got upset (he gets upset over everything), and a giant argument insued |
| 04:47.38 | *** join/#utah levi (n=levi@levi.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 04:47.43 | emcnabb | wow |
| 04:47.44 | mheath | Not to mention that this was in Mach cvs. Mach would be entirely obsolete, if people would just finish the l4 port. |
| 04:48.15 | mheath | It's a pitty, really |
| 04:48.25 | mheath | Hurd is brilliant, from a theoretical point of view |
| 04:48.41 | mheath | The way it works, the features it possess....It blows Linux out of the water, hands down. Even Linus couldn't argue that. |
| 04:48.50 | maquis | -lart girls that scream constantly |
| 04:49.06 | mheath | Now, if the developers would just pull their heads out of the ground.... |
| 04:49.57 | mheath | Translators are awesome |
| 04:50.11 | mheath | I really wish Linux had a feature like translators =\ |
| 04:50.19 | levi | maquis: In early May, I will have a baby girl that screams, though hopefully not constantly. ;) |
| 04:50.48 | maquis | levi: it's gonna be a girl? cool |
| 04:50.51 | emcnabb | the people-skills aspect of OSS development can be just as important as the coding aspect I guess |
| 04:51.36 | levi | mheath: I missed what's going on with Hurd. |
| 04:52.14 | emcnabb | mheath mentioned some recent bickering that was going on |
| 04:53.32 | mheath | s/recent/constant/g |
| 04:53.56 | mheath | Though they *are* slowly working towards a working, complete build of the GNU Operating System |
| 04:54.01 | mheath | packaing everything onto an install CD, etc. |
| 04:54.17 | mheath | Right now if you want to use a Hurd system, you have to use Debian GNU/Hurd |
| 04:54.41 | levi | Then they will have to find people who actually want to install it. Sadly, they have an uphill battle. |
| 04:54.42 | mheath | This will be the first complete official beta release of the GNU Operating System in about 10 years. |
| 04:55.18 | levi | Hmm, Swiss Army knife with a 1Gb flash drive. |
| 04:55.46 | tensai | that'll totally come in handy in the jungle |
| 04:56.16 | levi | tensai: It's more of an urban jungle kind of knife. |
| 04:56.32 | emcnabb | watch out, your knife could become obsolete in a few years |
| 04:56.39 | mheath | 13 days until I leave :) |
| 04:56.39 | emcnabb | you'll need to upgrade it |
| 04:56.45 | emcnabb | w00t! |
| 04:56.48 | emcnabb | j/k |
| 04:56.48 | levi | tensai: scissors, small blade, nail file, and USB drive. |
| 04:56.49 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 04:56.55 | mheath | Don't get too excited |
| 04:57.05 | mheath | I'll only be gone for 8 days |
| 04:57.08 | levi | The USB drive can be detached, so it's conceivably upgradable. |
| 04:57.08 | maquis | emcnabb: yeah... he'll be back... |
| 04:57.18 | tensai | levi: yeah, I could see it being useful. I have a thumb drive but never take it anywhere. my knife, OTOH, goes everywhere |
| 04:57.18 | mheath | Just wait for 6 more months |
| 04:57.41 | mheath | You'll be rid of me completely for about 4 months |
| 04:57.42 | levi | tensai: There are some that would make a fine key fob. |
| 04:58.01 | tensai | or will it be like the toothpick, useful for 2 weeks then lost forever |
| 04:58.06 | mheath | And then I'll only have limited computer access for the 4-20 years after that :) |
| 04:58.14 | maquis | tensai: my knife is always with me (except when i fly :( )... i finally found my flash drive the other day.... |
| 04:58.20 | tensai | levi: I'm not so keen on making my key ring bigger |
| 04:58.48 | levi | tensai: Just remove some keys, those aren't very useful anyway. ;) |
| 04:59.20 | maquis | there are some cool usb flash drives on thinkgeek... or at least used to be |
| 04:59.22 | mheath | Hmmm |
| 04:59.29 | tensai | levi: good idea. I'll just hide the building keys under door mats and the car keys on the muffler |
| 04:59.47 | maquis | mheath: i don't see why not |
| 04:59.59 | maquis | i've never seen an airline that has problems with something like that in checked baggage |
| 05:00.18 | tensai | just about everything is ok in checked luggage. the ridiculous policies are mostly limited to carry-on |
| 05:00.38 | mheath | The rediculous policies don't extend to like....pins, do they? |
| 05:00.56 | mheath | I know some of that policies are really odd and strict |
| 05:01.32 | maquis | http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/drives/7ceb/ |
| 05:01.34 | brac | [ThinkGeek :: Mimobots USB Flash Drives] |
| 05:01.36 | tensai | http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1012.xml |
| 05:01.47 | maquis | mheath: dunno about pins... i think nail-clippers are still out |
| 05:01.55 | maquis | although, i'm still unsure as to what you would use nail-clippers for |
| 05:02.27 | mheath | Hmm |
| 05:02.44 | mheath | They won't get upset about the metal pin that holds on the nametag on my uniform, right? |
| 05:02.56 | maquis | nah |
| 05:03.12 | tensai | scissors less than 4 inches were recently allowed |
| 05:03.31 | maquis | tensai: is that official now? |
| 05:03.46 | tensai | maquis: yes |
| 05:03.57 | maquis | in my experience, the little tiny scissors (for sewing and such) are a lot sharper than a lot of the larger scissors... |
| 05:04.01 | maquis | so, i find that to be kinda odd |
| 05:04.03 | tensai | nail clippers are allowed too |
| 05:04.31 | tensai | maquis: well, sure. it's a stupid rule. just telling you what they say. |
| 05:04.38 | maquis | yay for nail clippers |
| 05:04.45 | maquis | tensai: yeah... |
| 05:04.58 | maquis | has anybody ever figured out why nail clippers were banned, though? |
| 05:05.07 | maquis | i'm really curious what the threat from them was |
| 05:05.29 | emcnabb | I think it's funny how you can buy nail clippers in the airport shops |
| 05:05.40 | emcnabb | (snack shops, etc) |
| 05:05.44 | pmcnabb | maquis, perhaps they show up in the x-ray machine looking like a folded knife? |
| 05:05.55 | tensai | emcnabb: for people getting off planes and were desparate to clip their nails |
| 05:06.10 | emcnabb | but we're giving weapons to TERRORISTS! |
| 05:06.11 | maquis | pmcnabb: in that case, they can pull them out, see that they're nail clippers, and put them back in without confiscating them |
| 05:06.24 | mheath | Its just funny, some of the stuff they have listed here |
| 05:06.34 | mheath | Its all Yes, you can take it, but its funny that they even have to mention it.... |
| 05:06.34 | tensai | mheath: so, to answer your question knives are allowed only in checked luggage. any size is fine. |
| 05:06.42 | pmcnabb | maquis, maybe they got tired of doing that so they just said "no more clippers" :) |
| 05:06.53 | mheath | "I'm sorry, sir, but your Cane is a restricted item....Please come with us..." |
| 05:06.58 | emcnabb | my fists can be used as weapons |
| 05:06.58 | maquis | pmcnabb: possible, i guess |
| 05:07.06 | emcnabb | why don't they cut those off? |
| 05:07.24 | emcnabb | I guess the pointy bones stubs would be more dangerous still |
| 05:07.33 | mheath | "Toy Transformer Robots" |
| 05:07.36 | mheath | Why is that on the list?! |
| 05:07.53 | mheath | Why do they have to tell you that Toy Transformer Robots are not a security risk, and are OK? |
| 05:08.08 | pmcnabb | maybe they have a nail clippers accessory? |
| 05:08.29 | mheath | What moron has thought "Hmm.. I better consult the list. I'm not sure if my childs BLUNT PLASTIC TOY would be viewed as a security risk.." |
| 05:09.02 | maquis | mheath: maybe they were banned for a while, and are now unbanned |
| 05:09.13 | mheath | Thats even worse |
| 05:09.20 | mheath | Why would you ban a transformers toy? |
| 05:09.30 | maquis | they might turn into something dangerous |
| 05:09.43 | emcnabb | they are robots in disguise |
| 05:10.23 | mheath | Gotta watch out for those dinosaur/handgun combinations. |
| 05:10.53 | maquis | i mean... c'mon..... at the local high school back home, somebody got expelled because they had a GI Joe at school which had an inch-long plastic gun attached... |
| 05:11.16 | mheath | Oh, and incase you were wondering.... |
| 05:11.20 | maquis | it was a "gun", and so the kid got expelled |
| 05:11.21 | mheath | No, you can't take spear guns on the plane with you. |
| 05:11.31 | maquis | but.... but... |
| 05:11.45 | mheath | You can check them, though |
| 05:11.49 | maquis | yeah |
| 05:12.00 | mheath | You'll have to wait til baggage claim for your bloody killing spree. |
| 05:12.15 | mheath | No pool cues |
| 05:12.17 | tensai | it's all about externalities. the people making the rules are the people paying the cost. and they don't care if they stop terrorism, but if it happens on an airplane they'll be screwed. so move it elsewhere at all costs. |
| 05:12.22 | mheath | LMAO who would try to carry on a pool cue? |
| 05:12.23 | mheath | Why? |
| 05:12.32 | maquis | mheath: i can understand pool-cues being banned for space-requirements |
| 05:13.08 | mheath | You can check meat cleavers, too. |
| 05:13.40 | maquis | mheath: you can check whatever you want... (except explosives) |
| 05:13.48 | mheath | The only thing banned from checked baggage, though, is flare guns, gun lighters, and gun powder. |
| 05:14.00 | *** part/#utah lmcnabb (n=lisa@70-57-88-164.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 05:14.10 | maquis | bye lmcnabb |
| 05:14.14 | mheath | I'm going to take a bag... |
| 05:14.27 | mheath | and fill it with meat cleavers, spear guns, billy clubs, |
| 05:14.39 | maquis | what's a billy club? |
| 05:15.05 | mheath | Cattle prods, and ice picks |
| 05:15.09 | pmcnabb | mheath: and pool cues? |
| 05:15.09 | mheath | and see what they say ;) |
| 05:15.15 | mheath | pmcnabb: yes, those too |
| 05:15.20 | mheath | maquis: I dunno, exactly |
| 05:15.25 | mheath | Its a club, of some sort |
| 05:15.25 | tensai | maquis: the clubs police carry around |
| 05:15.32 | maquis | ah... |
| 05:15.33 | mheath | I've heard the term before, and they're listed on here. |
| 05:15.45 | mheath | pmcnabb: Oh, and toy transoformers |
| 05:16.10 | maquis | haha |
| 05:16.15 | pmcnabb | mheath: only if they transform into something hazardous |
| 05:16.23 | maquis | pmcnabb: your nick is the wrong length |
| 05:16.41 | mheath | Oh, and brass knuckles |
| 05:17.05 | mheath | I just hope no one ever goes on a ice pick/spear gun/brass knucles/billy club.meat cleaver killing spree at baggage claim |
| 05:17.11 | amcnabb | Apparently an Andrew MacNab bid for the domain name sex.eu (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12/13/church_bid_on_sex/) |
| 05:17.12 | mheath | The restrictions would get much worse |
| 05:17.14 | amcnabb | Weird. |
| 05:17.17 | pmcnabb | mheath: one more thing.. Nunchakus |
| 05:17.35 | pmcnabb | hmm.. |
| 05:17.39 | maquis | amcnabb: we know it was you... :) |
| 05:17.45 | mheath | Ah, can't forget those |
| 05:17.49 | mheath | Or the sabres and swords |
| 05:17.53 | maquis | pmcnabb: what's that? |
| 05:17.54 | tensai | since baggage claim is outside the screening area anybody could walk in with whatever weapon they wanted and go nuts |
| 05:18.27 | mheath | tensai: yes, but we have a convenient way of getting all of our weapons (and blunt plastic toys) there, now. |
| 05:18.31 | maquis | ooh... those are cool... |
| 05:18.32 | pmcnabb | maquis: what the orange teenage mutant ninja turtle had (michaelangelo) |
| 05:18.40 | maquis | pmcnabb: just looked it up.. .cool |
| 05:18.47 | maquis | pmcnabb: i always liked leonardo when i was little... |
| 05:18.47 | maquis | :) |
| 05:19.03 | *** join/#utah ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@c-67-171-124-6.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 05:21.48 | pmcnabb | maquis: and if it was forged by the right person, you wouldn't even need to be punched |
| 05:21.53 | pmcnabb | ;) |
| 05:21.57 | maquis | pmcnabb: :) |
| 05:22.20 | emcnabb | pmcnabb, don't you have finals? |
| 05:22.28 | pmcnabb | i'm mostly done |
| 05:22.33 | mheath | One ring to rule them all! |
| 05:22.34 | pmcnabb | i had data structures tonight |
| 05:22.41 | pmcnabb | physics is on thursday |
| 05:22.52 | tensai | ~laugh at all the suckers taking finals |
| 05:22.53 | ibot | HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! all the suckers taking finals just cracks me up! |
| 05:23.28 | pmcnabb | funny how it costs money to be laughed at.. |
| 05:23.29 | maquis | -lart tensai |
| 05:24.06 | tensai | maquis: there's no need for me to retaliate. knowing you're being punished by finals is enough. |
| 05:24.14 | mheath | SA? |
| 05:24.20 | mheath | brac: SA? |
| 05:24.20 | brac | dunno |
| 05:24.28 | maquis | mheath: dunno... i've never understood that lart |
| 05:24.32 | maquis | tensai: shuddup :( |
| 05:24.34 | mheath | I'm just interested |
| 05:24.41 | mheath | because SA is also the acronym for my current rank :D |
| 05:24.46 | mheath | <--- SA Michael Heath, USNSCC |
| 05:25.07 | maquis | -lart 2 finals 15 minutes apart |
| 05:25.43 | pmcnabb | -lart emcnabb |
| 05:26.13 | tensai | SA: http://www.somethingawful.com/photoshop/ |
| 05:26.19 | brac | [Something Awful] |
| 05:27.56 | tensai | NSFW |
| 05:29.48 | mheath | AH. |
| 05:33.32 | maquis | http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/10-21-05-scifi/TheSniperZERO.jpg |
| 05:52.30 | pmcnabb | wow, it's quiet now |
| 05:53.52 | maquis | pmcnabb: yup |
| 05:54.17 | maquis | pmcnabb: it gets that way when somebody sneaks up behind you... |
| 06:08.42 | emcnabb | night all |
| 06:09.17 | *** join/#utah bonez41 (n=aint@c-67-166-77-14.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 06:09.25 | bonez41 | anyone awake here still? |
| 06:09.46 | maquis | bonez41: yup |
| 06:09.47 | maquis | sup? |
| 06:11.10 | bonez41 | maquis, well, I run debian 3.1....and apache2... |
| 06:11.23 | maquis | bonez41: mmk |
| 06:11.28 | bonez41 | I just have my placeholder default page .. when I open my site....www.fyrenice.com |
| 06:11.43 | maquis | ok |
| 06:11.53 | bonez41 | I'd like to alter it...but apache2 has all those foreign language pages too...I don't know which file to alter, or where to put a home apge |
| 06:12.13 | maquis | what do you want to do to it? replace it? or what? |
| 06:12.17 | bonez41 | any ideas? |
| 06:12.27 | bonez41 | yeah, I have one that I was using with apache 1.2 |
| 06:12.32 | bonez41 | called index.html |
| 06:12.42 | maquis | mmk |
| 06:13.06 | bonez41 | and that index.html resides in my /var/www which I believe is my DocumentRoot, yet....the page that actually comes up shows up under something different...different location |
| 06:13.18 | maquis | i'd put it in /var/www/html/ (or whereever this page is) and then kill the foreign language ones... |
| 06:13.41 | maquis | look in your apache2.conf and figure out where the DocumentRoot is set to in there... |
| 06:13.54 | maquis | i know gentoo defaults it to someplace else... |
| 06:14.16 | maquis | it looks like this is going to DocumentRoot/apache2-default/ for some reason |
| 06:14.36 | maquis | although... if i go to fyrenice.com/index.html, it appears to be the right place |
| 06:14.44 | maquis | which means you have some default set incorrectly |
| 06:14.55 | maquis | try removing the apache2-default/ directory and see if that fixes it |
| 06:15.11 | maquis | (sorry.. that was a rambling list of commentary) |
| 06:15.12 | bonez41 | the apache2.conf says the Root is in /var/www.... |
| 06:15.33 | bonez41 | maquis, what shows when you load up www.fyrenice.com? |
| 06:15.36 | maquis | get rid of apache2-default... (and other things you don't want in there) |
| 06:15.48 | bonez41 | what do you see there? Placeholder, or page with my data on it? |
| 06:15.50 | maquis | bonez41: if i load up the website, it gives fyrenice.com/apache2-default/ |
| 06:15.59 | maquis | but if i do fyrenice.com/index.html, it goes to the right place |
| 06:16.17 | bonez41 | weird...eh? |
| 06:16.18 | maquis | that's why i'm thinking that you should pull out the apache2-default directory... see if that fixes it up |
| 06:16.35 | bonez41 | should i just mv it for now...change its name..? |
| 06:16.56 | maquis | sure... mv it outside of the document-root |
| 06:18.43 | maquis | bonez41: done? |
| 06:19.56 | bonez41 | yeah |
| 06:20.37 | maquis | hmmm |
| 06:20.46 | maquis | seems to think that directory's there again... |
| 06:21.27 | maquis | or... maybe not |
| 06:21.58 | maquis | now it's going to fyrenice.com/apache2-default and giving a 404 |
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| 06:22.15 | bonez41 | no change though... |
| 06:22.27 | bonez41 | I load it and it brings up the same placeholder.. |
| 06:22.45 | maquis | there's some way to tell apache what you want it to use as the default file in cases where a file is not specified... i have no idea why it would do that, but is it set to apache2-default, by any chance? |
| 06:22.56 | maquis | bonez41: hit refresh, and it should give you a "not found" |
| 06:23.18 | maquis | bonez41: check the apache2.conf and search for apache2-default |
| 06:23.25 | maquis | see if it's in there anywhere |
| 06:23.39 | bonez41 | yeah, not 404 |
| 06:23.51 | bonez41 | not sure why... |
| 06:23.51 | maquis | or grep /etc/apache2 (or /etc/httpd) for apache2-default |
| 06:23.58 | maquis | bonez41: yeah... that's what i meant by 404 |
| 06:24.03 | bonez41 | got it now |
| 06:24.04 | maquis | it's a not-found error |
| 06:24.35 | maquis | someplace it's getting the idea that it needs an apache2-default folder, and it's got to be setting that someplace in your conf files for apache |
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| 06:28.06 | maquis | bonez41: let me know if you find anything... |
| 07:36.42 | goozbach | ok so that was fun |
| 07:36.54 | goozbach | two cheescake factories in one night |
| 07:37.11 | goozbach | Irvine, and Beverly Hills |
| 07:37.14 | goozbach | :) |
| 07:37.18 | maquis | -lart goozbach |
| 07:37.38 | goozbach | even if it did take a 4hr round trip |
| 07:41.34 | emcnabb | wow |
| 07:41.52 | goozbach | one for dinner, the other for desert |
| 07:41.55 | goozbach | :) |
| 07:51.26 | maquis | emcnabb: goozbach is crazy... what do you expect? |
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| 14:02.38 | mheath | math test today =\ |
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| 15:02.12 | graphyx | -weather |
| 15:02.33 | graphyx | ~lart brac |
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| 15:02.40 | graphyx | ~weather |
| 15:02.54 | graphyx | -weather |
| 15:03.08 | graphyx | -lart brac |
| 15:03.19 | graphyx | ~lart ibot |
| 15:03.34 | graphyx | ok that settles it. Brac is smarter than ibot. |
| 15:35.18 | maquis | graphyx: we all knew that... |
| 15:40.47 | maquis | -lart finals |
| 15:40.58 | maquis | ~lart finals |
| 15:43.53 | tensai | ~enjoy finals |
| 15:44.23 | maquis | -lart tensai |
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| 15:44.56 | graphyx | maquis: Just remember, This too will pass, even if you don't. |
| 15:45.07 | maquis | graphyx: not very encouraging |
| 15:45.18 | maquis | i have to go through finals 3 more times after this week |
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| 16:13.59 | graphyx | Things being the way they are now in this room we should have the channel just automagically compress mcnabb to MB so that we save all that wasted traffic sent our from the mcnabb clan. |
| 16:16.57 | neybar_work | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/06/AR2005120601038.html |
| 16:16.59 | brac | [Woman Allegedly Hires Hit Man for Cheese] |
| 16:17.29 | tensai | graphyx: first I think we need to debate the merits of your proposal to the extent that we waste more bandwidth than we would save by implementing your procedure |
| 16:18.41 | graphyx | tensai: I was only trying to be funny.. |
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| 16:19.53 | tensai | graphyx: and I was merely attempting a verbose response to your witty recommendation |
| 16:20.14 | graphyx | tensai: Yes of course. |
| 16:25.48 | graphyx | Memory leaks at your age? |
| 16:26.09 | maquis | memory leaks during finals at my age, at least |
| 16:27.17 | maquis | neybar_work: that's really funny, and really sad at the same time |
| 16:32.28 | maquis | http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-12-13T175219Z_01_DIT364326_RTRUKOC_0_US-HONDA-ROBOT.xml&archived=False <-- OOH! |
| 16:36.18 | graphyx | -urls |
| 16:36.18 | brac | [2005/12/14 09:32:30] <maquis> http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-12-13T175219Z_01_DIT364326_RTRUKOC_0_US-HONDA-ROBOT.xml&archived=False |
| 16:36.18 | brac | [2005/12/14 09:16:59] <neybar_work> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/06/AR2005120601038.html |
| 16:36.18 | brac | [2005/12/13 22:33:36] <maquis> http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/10-21-05-scifi/TheSniperZERO.jpg |
| 16:36.18 | brac | [2005/12/13 22:26:19] <tensai> http://www.somethingawful.com/photoshop/ |
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| 16:46.37 | maquis | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4527868.stm |
| 16:46.43 | brac | [BBC NEWS | Americas | Brazil city proposes ban on death] |
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| 16:57.31 | goozbach | buhahaha |
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| 16:57.40 | jsmith | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12/14/man_woos_mother/ |
| 16:57.42 | brac | [Frenchman woos own mother on internet | The Register] |
| 16:57.42 | goozbach | blargfooblarg |
| 16:57.57 | goozbach | I heard about that last night |
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| 17:07.05 | graphyx | That's bad!!! |
| 17:07.51 | jsmith | Yeah, that's just plain scary. |
| 17:08.54 | emcnabb | horribe |
| 17:08.57 | emcnabb | horrible |
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| 17:14.48 | sjansen | I want a new duck. One that won't quack all night. |
| 17:14.54 | maquis | sjansen: ummmm |
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| 17:15.22 | maquis | sjansen: has your rubber ducky been keeping you up at nights? |
| 17:15.34 | findlay | ~duck maquis |
| 17:15.40 | ibot | ACTION gives maquis a fuzzy, ugly little duckling, which immediately grows into a full sized swan and pummels maquis with it's big white wings. |
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| 17:17.13 | sjansen | I want a new duck A mallard I think One that won't make a mess of my house Or build a nest in the bathroom sink |
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| 17:32.04 | harleypig | sjansen: Huey Lewis would be proud |
| 17:32.39 | sjansen | ~praise harleypig |
| 17:32.43 | ibot | All hail harleypig! |
| 17:32.57 | harleypig | cool, thanks. What for? |
| 17:33.37 | sjansen | maquis: It can no be revealed that... I was quoting a Weird Al song that was a parody of a Huey Lewis song. |
| 17:33.55 | sjansen | harleypig: For being old enough and cool enough to recognize the lyrics. |
| 17:34.11 | harleypig | I didn't know it was a Weird Al song ... thought you were doing it. |
| 17:34.19 | harleypig | heh |
| 17:38.47 | harleypig | heh ... I saw it ... I just didn't know that was a weird al song. |
| 17:40.08 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^, harleypig: you all should come work up here with me - it could be like the good 'ol days (but not IDI thank goodness) |
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| 17:41.13 | Jayce^ | umm, why would I want to do that? |
| 17:41.59 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: pay is pretty good here. The commute is worth the scenery. |
| 17:42.28 | Uncle_Jesse | plus you get to work with me! :-D |
| 17:42.49 | Jayce^ | umm, I have familiarity with the company, they don't offer enough :) |
| 17:42.57 | neybar_work | the big smiley face is making me wonder about that |
| 17:43.08 | Jayce^ | adn that second *feature* is the killer though :) |
| 17:43.25 | Uncle_Jesse | <sigh> no one loves me :-( |
| 17:44.21 | harleypig | heh |
| 17:44.21 | Jayce^ | go eat worms |
| 17:44.30 | harleypig | Uncle_Jesse: I'm sure you mom loves you... :> |
| 17:44.32 | Uncle_Jesse | gummy worms? |
| 17:44.41 | harleypig | as opposed to wormy gums? |
| 17:44.52 | Uncle_Jesse | even better |
| 17:45.10 | maquis | ~go eat worms |
| 17:45.11 | ibot | o/~ nobody likes me, everybody hates me, i guess i'll go eat worms o/~ |
| 17:47.38 | sjansen | Uncle_Jesse: Just so you know, I'm not avoiding you because I don't love you, I'm avoiding you because... wait, I guess you're right. |
| 17:50.22 | Uncle_Jesse | I know everyone really loves me here - you're just afraid to say it |
| 17:50.28 | Jayce^ | http://www.v8snowblowers.com/ |
| 17:50.29 | brac | [The Original V8 snowblowers] |
| 17:50.34 | findlay | ~love Uncle_Jesse |
| 17:50.35 | ibot | If you love Uncle_Jesse so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 17:50.43 | Uncle_Jesse | please, no |
| 17:50.57 | Uncle_Jesse | ibot: I'm already married |
| 17:54.07 | sjansen | ~hug Uncle_Jesse |
| 17:54.08 | ibot | ACTION hugs Uncle_Jesse |
| 17:54.12 | sjansen | ~stalk Uncle_Jesse |
| 17:54.45 | sjansen | Evil! Evil! Evil! Evil! Evil! Evil! Evil! Evi! Evil! |
| 17:55.09 | Uncle_Jesse | ibot loves me at least |
| 17:55.32 | sjansen | The purchased version of SUSE 10 includes Flash bundled. Jayce^'s link includes noisy flash on load. |
| 17:55.35 | sjansen | Evil! Evil! Evil! Evil! Evil! Evil! Evil! Evi! Evil! |
| 17:55.57 | sjansen | I think I might just have to intentionally break flash. |
| 17:59.43 | jsmith | sjansen: Please do. |
| 18:00.37 | findlay | yea, sjansen, go go go! |
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| 18:24.47 | levi | Good morning. |
| 18:30.45 | goozbach | sjansen: welcome to SUSE |
| 18:32.09 | Jayce^ | goozbach, saturday? |
| 18:33.51 | goozbach | Jayce^: family christmas party :( |
| 18:35.21 | Jayce^ | in the morning? |
| 18:40.42 | goozbach | all day |
| 18:40.42 | goozbach | going tubing at 10am |
| 18:40.50 | goozbach | up on Straberry flat |
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| 18:57.38 | findlay | flat strawberries |
| 18:57.53 | RyanE | findlay: they'll go really well with those square watermelons. |
| 18:59.01 | maquis | mmmm... food |
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| 19:11.36 | findlay | TimRiker: have you had a chance to look at that little world program I sent you? |
| 19:23.52 | goozbach | WAHOO!!! Xen 3.0.0 relased |
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| 19:28.40 | sjansen | goozbach: man, you're behind on the times |
| 19:28.50 | sjansen | that news is, like, so last week |
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| 19:30.56 | tensai | -lart hans |
| 19:31.14 | hans | sweet, free hours |
| 19:32.11 | hans | is it only 12:30? it seems like I've been doing nothing for a lot longer than that. |
| 19:35.21 | goozbach | sjansen: doit |
| 19:35.32 | sjansen | On the one hand, there was a legitimate security vulnerability. On the other hand, the version of Vim shipped isn't vulnerable. |
| 19:35.51 | sjansen | goozbach: Even if I don't get mad at them for that, I still can't believe they don't ship gvim. |
| 19:37.11 | goozbach | no gvim!!! |
| 19:37.15 | goozbach | get a rope |
| 19:37.44 | sjansen | Correction. No gvim on the CDs. Since I switch to an online source, gvim has appeared. |
| 19:38.14 | goozbach | ship = on cds |
| 19:38.22 | goozbach | IMNSHO |
| 19:43.04 | sjansen | So is anybody else completely unable to view anything on http://novell.com/? I have cookies disabled. |
| 19:47.17 | tensai | sjansen: me too. I get a reload loop. |
| 19:47.21 | hans | i can see it fine |
| 19:47.40 | hans | safari, cookies |
| 19:49.06 | findlay | hmm, konqueror is doing the reload loop too |
| 19:53.49 | sjansen | I suggest everyone seeing a problem do the right thing to support a local Linux vendor: tell them they're stupid. |
| 19:56.59 | tensai | sjansen: well, I would look for a "tell me I'm stupid" link on the website but... |
| 19:57.19 | sjansen | use the google cache |
| 19:57.40 | goozbach | someone here playing with festival+asterisk? |
| 19:57.49 | goozbach | I just got a WIERD phone call |
| 19:58.02 | hans | no, but if I were I'd call you for sure |
| 19:58.06 | findlay | goozbach: why are you getting spam buster phone calls? |
| 19:58.52 | findlay | goozbach: if you post your phone number here, I'll see what I can do. Your credit card number would help too. |
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| 20:01.44 | jsmith | goozbach: What did festival say? |
| 20:02.23 | sjansen | findlay: I don't know goozbach's ccn, but I can give you his phone num. if you promise to use it for evil. |
| 20:02.38 | goozbach | "goozbach would you like to turn your phone to vibrate?" and then read off some numbers |
| 20:03.20 | findlay | cat /dev/urandom | festival > $goozbach_num |
| 20:04.29 | goozbach | I'll just wait till I get my bill then I'll see the real number of the person who called me. |
| 20:04.48 | goozbach | I'll call up my friends in the Telemarketing field and let them go to town |
| 20:05.17 | jsmith | goozbach: Let me know when you've got the number... we could have fun :-) |
| 20:05.29 | goozbach | will do |
| 20:05.53 | goozbach | is there anything ranch dressing doesn't go well with??? |
| 20:06.01 | goozbach | I say not much |
| 20:06.14 | amcnabb | vinagrette dressing |
| 20:06.29 | amcnabb | That would be one nasty salad. |
| 20:06.42 | sjansen | chocolate milk |
| 20:06.57 | findlay | dirt |
| 20:07.09 | findlay | sillicon |
| 20:07.13 | goozbach | dirt is better with ranch |
| 20:07.13 | sjansen | most cheese cake |
| 20:07.21 | findlay | silicon? |
| 20:07.27 | spr | brownies |
| 20:07.41 | findlay | solder |
| 20:07.58 | findlay | electrons |
| 20:08.07 | goozbach | quarks |
| 20:08.13 | findlay | leptons |
| 20:09.03 | Jayce^ | you fool spr, never mention brownies when harleypig is around |
| 20:09.10 | findlay | twm |
| 20:10.31 | harleypig | did someone mention brownies?! |
| 20:10.39 | sjansen | harleypig: no |
| 20:10.52 | Jayce^ | munchies..... |
| 20:11.00 | findlay | sounds like brownies |
| 20:11.14 | harleypig | i could've sworn ... |
| 20:11.15 | sjansen | well, maybe Jayce^ mentioned he has brownies... they're hidden behind one his drawers, you'll have to search his entire desk |
| 20:11.24 | harleypig | anyway ... I just ate lunch ... |
| 20:11.30 | harleypig | I'm not touching Jayce^ drawers... |
| 20:24.25 | hans | goozbach: did you write down the numbers? they might be your lucky lottery numbers |
| 20:25.29 | levi | Okay, I officially give up on Vorlath, the crazy programming environment guy. |
| 20:28.24 | sjansen | levi: ? |
| 20:28.39 | levi | sjansen: You haven't heard me talking about him before? |
| 20:29.36 | sjansen | I've been away. |
| 20:30.40 | TimRiker | what does a plus mean in ls -l output? ie: brw-rw----+ ? |
| 20:31.10 | goozbach | extended attributes |
| 20:31.14 | goozbach | usually FACLS |
| 20:31.15 | findlay | acls? |
| 20:31.33 | goozbach | use getfacl instead of ls -l on said file |
| 20:31.41 | harleypig | Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight |
| 20:31.41 | harleypig | gonna grab some afternoon delight. |
| 20:31.44 | harleypig | My motto's always been; when it's right, it's right. |
| 20:31.55 | harleypig | dangit ... I did it again. |
| 20:32.06 | harleypig | at least this one isn't bad, just old. |
| 20:32.09 | levi | sjansen: http://my.opera.com/Vorlath/blog/ |
| 20:32.45 | levi | sjansen: He doesn't make a whole lot of sense, really. His ideas are a mass of contradictions, and he doesn't realize it. |
| 20:33.55 | sjansen | I, for one, am thankful for all the hackers and gamers pushing computing forward because computer scientists are too busy sitting on their thumbs to be out on the leading edge. |
| 20:34.10 | levi | Heh. |
| 20:34.45 | levi | Those Amiga demo scene guys REALLY pushed the advancement of hardware, you know. |
| 20:37.40 | levi | sjansen: If you read back far enough in his blog, it gets even more incoherent. |
| 20:38.36 | sjansen | I scanned enough to decide you're right. He's a fanboy wannabe that thinks he knows more than he does. |
| 20:39.20 | levi | sjansen: Most of his recent ones have been poorly-disguised attempts to call me an idiot, though I think they are spectacular failures when read by anyone with any real knowledge of things. |
| 20:39.52 | RyanE | levi: I would bet cash that a game that pushes the hardware will never be written in his language. |
| 20:40.24 | levi | RyanE: No bet. A language must be finished before a game that pushes the hardware can be written in it. |
| 20:41.14 | levi | He will never even come close to finishing. |
| 20:41.27 | findlay | levi: he wrote his own language? |
| 20:41.41 | levi | findlay: No, he's 'designing' his own 'programming environment'. |
| 20:41.48 | findlay | oh |
| 20:41.50 | RyanE | levi: he can't, by definition, can he? I mean, he's against ' |
| 20:41.52 | RyanE | VM |
| 20:42.02 | RyanE | dang... Enter key moved itself over to the left. |
| 20:42.20 | RyanE | he's against 'VM's', but the features he wants in the language require it, no? |
| 20:42.22 | harleypig | but it's annoying to have two separate windows taking up space. |
| 20:42.41 | levi | RyanE: Well, it's not well-specified enough to finish it at this point. Several of his stated design goals seem to contradict some of his fundamental principles. |
| 20:42.48 | RyanE | harleypig: besides, it's pretty entertaining when you 'IM' Jayce^ inappropriate lyrics to the group. :) |
| 20:43.08 | levi | RyanE: If he wants lexical closures in his language, he must have garbage collection. |
| 20:43.25 | harleypig | RyanE: :] |
| 20:43.43 | harleypig | they're old songs that pandoras bringing up ... just sharing the wealth. |
| 20:43.56 | levi | RyanE: A bytecode-based virtual machine emulator isn't technically required, it's just a good implementation decision. |
| 20:44.24 | levi | (depending on your goals, of course) |
| 20:45.01 | levi | An AST interpreter would be fine, though, if translation to native code will always be done. |
| 20:45.33 | levi | Or even otherwise. I mean, Ruby and Perl work just fine. |
| 20:47.17 | levi | When I was arguing with him about the merits of a virtual machine with sufficiently advanced native code translation, the bytecode part wasn't the important one, it was the meta-layer that the virtual machine provides. |
| 20:48.57 | RyanE | his argument seemed to me that he still wanted a VM, but he wanted the VM built into *every executable* that was compiled. Seems like a pretty inefficient way to do things, just to eliminate having a VM present on a machine. |
| 20:48.58 | levi | In the Hotspot VM, for example, the meta-layer analyzes the execution of different code paths and dynamically decides when to JIT a particular version of a method into a PIC. |
| 20:49.34 | sjansen | argh, could someone please explain to me (in small words) how to find the documentation for the python file object |
| 20:49.38 | RyanE | but I was only really skimming. If I read that kind of stuff too deeply, my head explodes. |
| 20:49.38 | sjansen | ? |
| 20:50.07 | levi | RyanE: It wasn't clear to me what he was arguing for/against except that he really hates the term 'virtual machine'. |
| 20:51.11 | sjansen | there's gobs of python documentation, but I'm having a heckuva time figuring out the logic for how it's organized |
| 20:51.26 | RyanE | yeah, his hatred of VM's seems quite irrational. |
| 20:51.57 | RyanE | sjansen: you're assuming that there *is* logic for how it's organized. :) |
| 20:52.24 | RyanE | I have an irrational hated of Java, but it has nothing to do with it using a VM. :) |
| 20:53.43 | levi | But if he wants to write an interpreter for some optimized AST form of programs that does dynamic translation of hot spots to machine code, then that's pretty much what I want. |
| 20:53.50 | levi | sjansen: http://docs.python.org/lib/bltin-file-objects.html#l2h-235 ? |
| 20:53.52 | brac | [2.3.9 File Objects] |
| 20:54.12 | levi | Found via the library reference index. |
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| 20:56.38 | levi | It seemed that after I gave him the link to the Singularity paper, he wouldn't believe I think I said. He didn't seem to follow any of the other links I gave him either, which is a shame. The Self papers would have been very useful. Also, Oberon does the AST compiling thing he was interested in. |
| 21:00.22 | levi | I thought it was amusing that he completely failed to respond to my examples of how using hardware memory protection is actually slower in many cases than software memory protection. |
| 21:00.57 | levi | Well, he did make some comment about type safety in Java, but that was not really relevant, because I wasn't talking about Java. |
| 21:06.45 | hans | any postgres gurus in here? |
| 21:07.04 | hans | 'select table_version from version where table_name='h_sip_users'', result 'ERROR: relation "version" does not exist |
| 21:07.30 | hans | is this version thing an internal table that should exist? might it be this user doesn't have permission to see it? |
| 21:08.32 | maquis | hans: interesting |
| 21:09.33 | sjansen | levi: You must think your time is awfully cheap. You obviously wasted a lot of it responding to this guy. |
| 21:10.14 | levi | sjansen: It was a tool of procrastination. Tell me you never do such things. :P |
| 21:10.26 | sjansen | hans: my first guess is actually that it's in a different table space, but yes it could be a permissions thing |
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| 21:13.42 | sjansen | s/table space/schema/ |
| 21:14.20 | sjansen | To see the internal system tables type \dS |
| 21:15.43 | sjansen | levi: Uhm... well... I do them less now. |
| 21:18.34 | sjansen | http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2696315510.html !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:20.01 | mrpull- | sjansen: i'd rather have the Treo 700w :) |
| 21:20.02 | emcnabb | sjansen, has maquis' excessive punctuation been rubbing off on you?????????????? |
| 21:20.38 | sjansen | ~slap mrpull- |
| 21:20.39 | ibot | ACTION slaps mrpull-, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 21:23.25 | mrpull- | sjansen: now all it needs is a keyboard driver |
| 21:28.40 | graphyx | It works for me. |
| 21:28.45 | graphyx | I have flashblock on though. |
| 21:28.50 | graphyx | I mean novell.com/? |
| 21:32.32 | graphyx | hans: do you have CLI access to the db? |
| 21:32.56 | hans | looks like it is a schema issue |
| 21:33.12 | graphyx | I Was going to say do a \dt version and see if the table exists at all. |
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| 22:55.22 | sjansen | *sigh* |
| 22:55.53 | levi | sjansen: Eh? |
| 22:56.43 | sjansen | Perl has better Unicode support. Python is more likely to have all the libraries I need. Ruby's syntax makes me happy. |
| 22:57.02 | levi | Alas. |
| 22:59.27 | levi | Radio David Byrne's current playlist is classic country stuff. |
| 23:04.53 | mheath | Something on my system was eating up too much memory |
| 23:04.55 | mheath | leaking memory |
| 23:05.04 | mheath | I just had to reboot, because my system was barely useable anymore.... |
| 23:05.13 | mheath | The end of 3 weeks of uptime :( |
| 23:05.47 | mrpull- | mheath: my XP box gets 3 weeks easily :) |
| 23:07.37 | mrpull- | levi: i get a kick out of outlaw country. johnny cash is the man. |
| 23:20.57 | sjansen | mrpull-: My linux box gets 3 months easily. So? |
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| 23:31.07 | mrpull- | sjansen: :-) mheath seemed to be boasting about 3 weeks... 3 years is something to boast about |
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| 23:39.56 | Hhhhh | hello |
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| 23:41.54 | sjansen | Hhhhhello |
| 23:43.36 | dna3e8 | how do you change the monitor refresh-rate in command line (vsync=54) |
| 23:44.12 | Hhhhh | hmm, I know how to do it in xorg.conf |
| 23:44.22 | mheath | mrpull: I consider 2 weeks of continue power and connectivity to be a mirracle |
| 23:44.37 | mheath | No power fluctuations or outages, no problems with my cable line... |
| 23:44.47 | mheath | No hardware problems...etc. |
| 23:45.46 | mrpull- | mheath: yowzers. |
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| 23:57.59 | sjansen | During the summer in Utah I consider 2 weeks of continous power impressive too. |
| 23:58.23 | sjansen | Used to take a major blizzard to kill power in North Dakota. A stiff wind is all it takes here. |
| 23:59.00 | mrpull- | North Dakota? that explains sjansen ;-) |
