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| 01:38.29 | maquis | grr |
| 01:38.42 | maquis | so, when i got home, nobody else was home, and the tv was running |
| 01:38.52 | maquis | i was studying with a friend, so we turned off the tv |
| 01:39.26 | maquis | now my roommates are mad because apparently when we turned off the tv, we also turned the cable off, which means that the show they were recording didn't get recorded |
| 01:39.39 | maquis | i have trouble believing that they can't have the tv off while recording something |
| 01:56.22 | lars-ut | for those of you running samba & deploying firefox 1.5 to Windows clients... |
| 01:57.01 | lars-ut | I created a share that had a bunch of XPI files from preferred extensions |
| 01:57.24 | lars-ut | & then placed a reference in the logon script that installs them |
| 01:57.29 | lars-ut | it uses this format: |
| 01:57.34 | lars-ut | "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" -install-global-extension "X:\Utilities\firefox\extensions\adblock_filterset.g_updater-0.2.6-fx+fl+mz.xpi" |
| 01:57.54 | lars-ut | where X: in this case is a mapped drive to the share |
| 01:58.18 | lars-ut | it works with so-called "Power User" client privileges just fine |
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| 02:32.07 | maquis | i just had belkin tech support tell me i need to contact linux in regards to a problem my router's having |
| 02:32.15 | maquis | because somehow linux is preventing it from working |
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| 03:00.32 | levi | maquis: How are you going to go about contacting linux? :) |
| 03:01.03 | maquis | levi: that's a good question |
| 03:01.41 | maquis | so, belkin is determined that linux is preventing me from running the scripts that need to run in order for me to change a setting on my router |
| 03:02.05 | maquis | the best guess i can take on that is that they mean that the browser isn't running the scripts |
| 03:02.11 | levi | Hmm. |
| 03:02.24 | maquis | so, i'm looking at the source for the page that i'm trying to change settings on, and from what i can tell, it's all javascripta |
| 03:02.25 | levi | Borrow a Windows PC? |
| 03:02.30 | maquis | and javascript is on |
| 03:02.53 | maquis | levi: i think i'm just going to go get a wrt54gs |
| 03:03.10 | levi | Why didn't you do that in the first place? |
| 03:12.12 | maquis | levi: it's 76$ |
| 03:12.37 | maquis | and i was hoping that belkin would have some clue |
| 03:13.11 | maquis | she did say that she was going to send a survey about my experience with their tech support |
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| 03:25.01 | maquis | levi: guess what! |
| 03:25.07 | levi | What? |
| 03:25.26 | maquis | i get to fill out a technical support survey! |
| 03:25.45 | maquis | hmmm |
| 03:25.59 | maquis | and i get 25% off any purchases i make before monday night from belkin |
| 03:27.51 | maquis | hmmm.... how knowledgeable on the project was the agent... well... not very |
| 03:31.06 | glass-eye | hmmm |
| 03:31.14 | maquis | glass-eye: hi |
| 03:31.16 | glass-eye | hi |
| 03:31.43 | glass-eye | goozbach: you're a punk |
| 03:32.02 | maquis | glass-eye: goo is a punk... but i'm curious why you're getting after him :) |
| 03:32.20 | glass-eye | maquis: just on general principle |
| 03:32.22 | maquis | and my guess is that he's probably not around, so you'd have to actually invoke him |
| 03:32.39 | glass-eye | probably |
| 03:32.46 | maquis | how are you today? |
| 03:33.08 | glass-eye | not bad, yourself? |
| 03:33.26 | maquis | been better, but oh well |
| 03:33.30 | glass-eye | why is that? |
| 03:33.35 | maquis | sick... |
| 03:33.45 | maquis | but this tech support call did kinda make my day |
| 03:33.55 | glass-eye | ah, sickness sucks |
| 03:34.34 | glass-eye | you live in utah, or just from there like me? |
| 03:34.49 | maquis | i live in utah for now |
| 03:34.53 | glass-eye | cool |
| 03:34.54 | maquis | where are you? |
| 03:35.03 | glass-eye | i live in arizona, south-east of phoenix |
| 03:35.10 | glass-eye | i'm from utah originally though |
| 03:36.13 | maquis | cool |
| 03:39.13 | tensai | maquis: sorry to hear belkin is clueless. you might try telling them you're running OSX. it doesn't support ActiveX. |
| 03:39.25 | maquis | i checked the source to the page |
| 03:39.31 | maquis | it's just javascript |
| 03:39.54 | maquis | anyway... hte tech support survey is... interesting... :) |
| 03:39.55 | tensai | well, that's good. could be incompatible javascript |
| 03:40.52 | maquis | anyway... i have this coupon code that's good for 3 days.... but... i've never had an overly positive experience with belkin products (this router is the most positive experience i've had) |
| 03:41.39 | tensai | so you get 25% off something that's not worth 0%? |
| 03:42.26 | maquis | yup |
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| 05:52.27 | michael | is there a tool I can use to create a CDROM that will autorun in windows? |
| 05:52.38 | michael | a tool in Linux that will do that? |
| 05:53.40 | resplin | You just need to create an Autorun.inf text file. |
| 05:53.43 | findlay | michael: I think it's trivial to get a CDROM to autorun in wondows |
| 05:54.10 | findlay | whatever that is |
| 05:54.12 | resplin | Google says: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;818804 |
| 05:54.13 | findlay | windows too |
| 05:54.46 | resplin | You can just look at that file on any Windows CDROM and modify the file as needed. |
| 05:56.55 | michael | is autorun.inf all i need? |
| 05:57.21 | tensai | michael: yes |
| 05:57.27 | tensai | and the file to run, of course |
| 05:58.42 | michael | well the file to run is iexplore.exe... now does IE accept a url on the command line? |
| 05:59.13 | tensai | if you need to open an html file you can use "start foo.html" as your command |
| 05:59.20 | michael | maybe i should put firefox-1.5 win32 on the CD and use that >:) |
| 05:59.21 | tensai | that'll use the default browser |
| 06:00.37 | michael | thx |
| 06:01.36 | tensai | ~lart bloglines |
| 06:02.19 | tensai | so I thought I'd give bloglines a shot. I created an account and waited for my activation email. It never arrived because they don't have reverse dns on their mail server. |
| 06:02.31 | maquis | tensai: huh? |
| 06:02.39 | tensai | so I turned that off on my mail server and asked for another one. I've clicked the button like 20 times and nothing. |
| 06:03.13 | tensai | maquis: which part? |
| 06:03.23 | maquis | reverse dns? |
| 06:03.28 | maquis | whazzat? |
| 06:03.53 | maquis | tensai: btw, i broke down and got the gs :) |
| 06:03.53 | tensai | forward dns is name->address. reverse dns is address->name |
| 06:04.32 | maquis | ok |
| 06:04.41 | maquis | but what does that have to do with sending an email to you? |
| 06:04.47 | tensai | ~nslookup 199.104.112.185 |
| 06:04.57 | maquis | ok |
| 06:05.11 | tensai | that's reverse dns. technically it looks up 185.112.104.199.in-addr.arpa |
| 06:05.46 | tensai | I configured my mail server to reject messages from mail servers without reverse dns |
| 06:06.43 | tensai | it's not an uncommon thing. aol is a big example of someone who does that. that means that aol users will have severe problems trying to use bloglines. |
| 06:06.48 | maquis | so that they can't send an email to you@199.104.112.185 or whatever? |
| 06:07.02 | tensai | yes |
| 06:11.32 | maquis | tensai: ah.. cool |
| 06:11.46 | maquis | tensai: what's the advantage of doing that? does it reduce spam? or what/ |
| 06:12.20 | tensai | that's the idea. I watched it for a while and the only servers I saw that didn't have reverse dns were spam or viruses, so I turned it on. |
| 06:12.32 | tensai | then bloglines turns out to be retarded |
| 06:12.43 | maquis | haha |
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| 06:29.30 | maquis | my nose feels raw... |
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| 07:10.19 | dna3e8 | I am trying to install ruby on a SuSE 10.0 headless machine, I am not sure what the install guide is telling me (http://ruby-gnome2.sourceforge.jp/hiki.cgi?Install+Guide+for+SUSE) |
| 07:23.50 | maquis | dna3e8: i'd help, but i really need to get to bed |
| 07:23.53 | maquis | sorry |
| 07:24.04 | maquis | good luck, though |
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| 07:45.07 | dna3e8 | that ok.. I think I got it |
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| 15:43.14 | graphyx | Morning. |
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| 16:25.07 | tensai | graphyx: I still haven't beaten the AI, but I'm getting better |
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| 16:28.26 | graphyx | tensai: One of the things that you have to do is get good positioning. |
| 16:28.35 | graphyx | Get brick and lumber first off. |
| 16:28.39 | graphyx | That helps you expand out. |
| 16:28.45 | graphyx | Then you can go to town. |
| 16:29.01 | graphyx | Perhaps we can play tonight. |
| 16:29.13 | graphyx | Does it have a way for you to make your own map? That would be fun. |
| 16:34.26 | maquis | Newsome: that was one of the greatest quotes i've heard in a while (in your email to plug) |
| 16:34.34 | maquis | how you can't make money giving stuff away for free. He |
| 16:34.35 | maquis | then proceeded to give out free pens afterwards. Go figure. |
| 16:34.52 | Newsome | haha :) |
| 16:35.03 | maquis | so, he actually recognized you? |
| 16:35.09 | Newsome | oh yeah. |
| 16:35.15 | maquis | i'm impressed |
| 16:35.17 | graphyx | maquis: Perhaps newsome isn't trying to make money. ;) |
| 16:35.32 | maquis | Newsome: what'd he say to you? |
| 16:36.12 | Newsome | he came up before the lecture and said "Hey there, Cowboy!" and shook my hand. |
| 16:36.19 | maquis | haha |
| 16:36.31 | maquis | that rocks! |
| 16:36.59 | maquis | so, he's trying to be all friendly with you |
| 16:37.02 | maquis | what'd you do? |
| 16:37.26 | Newsome | Then, as he was starting his spiel, he said something about how lots of people had notepads out...they must be getting credit for a class, or reporting to Groklaw like Frank up there. |
| 16:37.42 | maquis | haha |
| 16:38.30 | Newsome | I wasn't there to cause problems or anything. I was just there to observe. |
| 16:38.47 | maquis | so.. i guess he must always see you when you're getting information? is that how he knows who you are? |
| 16:40.01 | Newsome | they've known who I am for a while now. |
| 16:40.13 | maquis | that's so funny :) |
| 16:40.47 | Newsome | actually, both sides know me. IBM's lawyers didn't recognize me on sight, but knew who I was as soon as I mentioned my name. |
| 16:41.17 | maquis | yeah |
| 16:41.23 | maquis | well... that's probably good |
| 16:41.55 | maquis | that means they read the stuff you post, which they can then incorporate, if the want to (have you ever seen any of your points used by them?) |
| 16:43.08 | Newsome | I can't think of anything directly used. They've probably got their own experts who figured stuff out first |
| 16:43.33 | graphyx | Newsome: Who are you? |
| 16:43.39 | graphyx | why do they care you are there? |
| 16:43.46 | graphyx | I apparently haven't been paying attention. |
| 16:44.04 | maquis | graphyx: you ever go to groklaw? |
| 16:44.14 | graphyx | Occassionally., |
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| 16:44.48 | maquis | you know the "frank sorenson" who's always posting lots of information about the SCO case? |
| 16:45.00 | graphyx | Nope I haven't paid that much attention. |
| 16:45.05 | maquis | ah... |
| 16:45.13 | elg | i know i know |
| 16:45.19 | maquis | well... next itme, keep an eye out... that's Newsome... :) |
| 16:45.30 | Newsome | I've probably provided 95% of the documents posted on Groklaw. I've written a number of articles, observed & reported on most of the hearings, etc. |
| 16:45.31 | graphyx | Cool. |
| 16:45.33 | maquis | he rocks! |
| 16:45.40 | graphyx | Newsome: Thanks for doing that for everyone. |
| 16:45.46 | elg | maquis mostly likes his son |
| 16:45.47 | Newsome | :) |
| 16:45.49 | graphyx | I have to give credit where it is due. |
| 16:45.54 | maquis | haha |
| 16:46.04 | graphyx | maquis: You trying to get a date out of him or something |
| 16:46.04 | graphyx | ? |
| 16:46.16 | graphyx | him = Newsome's son. |
| 16:46.17 | maquis | 4 (or 5?) year olds are all cute :) |
| 16:46.19 | Newsome | uhm, he's 4 |
| 16:46.25 | graphyx | Or is it just a little tike? |
| 16:47.10 | graphyx | nvm. |
| 16:47.15 | graphyx | Newsome: How many kids do you have? |
| 16:47.45 | Newsome | maquis: my sister had her baby last night - http://www.sorensonfamily.org/~fosdick/picalbum.php?mode=view&album=Leah&pic=20051202-009.jpg |
| 16:47.55 | Newsome | graphyx: just one |
| 16:48.03 | graphyx | I am at four as of a month ago. |
| 16:48.22 | maquis | Newsome: CUTE!!!!! |
| 16:49.24 | elg | my son was a pumpkin for halloween. http://flickr.com/photos/fugalh/59222684/ |
| 16:50.52 | graphyx | two computers one monitor. You got a kbm? |
| 16:51.10 | graphyx | we have that same rocking chair. |
| 16:51.17 | graphyx | Those are relatively nice. |
| 16:51.20 | maquis | elg: he's cute too! :) |
| 16:53.24 | graphyx | Here is my latest kid. |
| 16:53.25 | graphyx | http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrklaw/62654593/ |
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| 16:53.37 | graphyx | But that isn't my account so the rest are relatives. |
| 16:53.53 | maquis | cute! |
| 16:54.12 | graphyx | He gained 19 ounces in 10 days. |
| 16:54.20 | maquis | wow! |
| 16:54.20 | graphyx | Which amazed our doctor and ourselves. |
| 16:54.39 | graphyx | They suggested that 2 ounces a week was normal. |
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| 17:14.19 | graphyx | let it snow let it snow let it snow |
| 17:14.22 | graphyx | -weather |
| 17:14.23 | brac | 19 minutes ago, on Sat Dec 03 16:55:00 UTC 2005, the wind was calm at KPVU. The temperature was -1 degrees Celsius (30 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1018 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 68.8%. There were broken clouds at a height of 1158 meters (3800 feet), broken clouds at a height of 1463 meter (4800 feet) and overcast clouds at a height of 2134 meters (7000 feet). |
| 17:14.37 | graphyx | -snow |
| 17:14.40 | graphyx | ~snow |
| 17:14.41 | ibot | i heard snow is cold, or white, or comes down in flakes, or cocaine |
| 17:15.05 | graphyx | wow.. snow comes down in cocaine.. Is that why we have so many drug addicts around here? |
| 17:15.22 | graphyx | ibot, you're just plain silly. |
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| 17:32.10 | mheath | ~lart people who read into "The Chronicles of Narnia's" ties to christianity too much |
| 17:32.44 | graphyx | mheath: You mean like treating it as scripture? |
| 17:33.06 | levi | mheath: Um, you mean like C. S. Lewis? |
| 17:34.34 | maquis | mheath: i've seen good arguments for much more extreme views (sometimes coming from movie directors) |
| 17:34.56 | mheath | graphyx: No, like suing the governor of florida under seperation-of-church-and-state laws for selecting the book for some elementary school reading program |
| 17:35.18 | maquis | i would certainly believe that CS Lewis likely wrote it with that type of view... |
| 17:35.28 | mheath | maquis: Its obvious he did |
| 17:35.34 | mheath | Especially if you read the later books in the series |
| 17:35.37 | maquis | granted, saying that it's not safe for a reading program because of that is stupid |
| 17:35.39 | mheath | Theres no way he didn't. |
| 17:35.42 | maquis | mheath: i figured that... |
| 17:36.08 | maquis | i've seen some very good arguments claiming that the matrix has ties to christianity.... very interesting case, actually |
| 17:36.09 | mheath | But I don't see how a lovely childrens story, that has one character who loosely parallel's christs life, teaches christinaity |
| 17:36.13 | mheath | *christianity |
| 17:37.01 | mheath | My mom used to read those books to me when I was really little |
| 17:37.19 | maquis | it doesn't teach christianity... it just happens to have been built with a christian background |
| 17:37.19 | mheath | I didn't even realize it had *any* ties to christianity, until I went back and reread them when I was in junior high school |
| 17:37.59 | maquis | i don't think that people would generally argue that the matrix teaches christianity, even though there are some interesting ties |
| 17:38.14 | maquis | but then again, there are people who claim that harry potter teaches paganism |
| 17:38.16 | mheath | So what? Authors have to completely mask their religious beliefs in anything they write, otherwise its a religious work? |
| 17:39.27 | mheath | A lion dies to save them....... |
| 17:39.35 | maquis | battlestar galactica and some series of books that my mom likes are loosely based on the general idea of the book of mormon... |
| 17:39.38 | maquis | most people don't know that |
| 17:39.40 | mheath | And in a later work, he comes back from the dead, and does glorious things |
| 17:39.45 | mheath | and creates a new world |
| 17:39.46 | maquis | (at least that's what my mom says...) |
| 17:39.55 | mheath | Nad instantly, its a work reflecting christianity. |
| 17:40.11 | maquis | i've never read the books or watched the original battlestar galactica, so i can't speak for having noticed that... |
| 17:40.16 | maquis | mheath: of course :) |
| 17:42.41 | mheath | I dunno. I'm biased... |
| 17:43.03 | mheath | I have strong ties to those books. Some of my most vivid memories of my mom, before she died, are of her reading those to me... |
| 17:44.26 | graphyx | battlestar galatica is based off of the Book of Mormon?? Are you serious??? |
| 17:44.42 | graphyx | That's nuts. |
| 17:46.37 | maquis | graphyx: that's what my mom says |
| 17:46.41 | maquis | not the new one... the original |
| 17:46.48 | maquis | very loosely, i would guess |
| 17:46.49 | graphyx | I have seen the original one. |
| 17:47.13 | maquis | i don't know a whole lot about it, since i haven't seen it... |
| 17:48.22 | mheath | Hmmm |
| 17:49.42 | mheath | And I need to start packing...sort of |
| 17:49.57 | mheath | Get stuff sorted out and in my seabag that I won't be using until I leave... |
| 17:53.55 | mheath | hmmm |
| 17:54.07 | mheath | Whats the best way to take a clothing bag (like the kind you hang up) on an airplane with you? |
| 17:54.54 | graphyx | maquis: Go get the lotion kleenex ones. Those are so nice that your nose doesn't get rubbed raw unless you are blowing it 200 times a day. |
| 17:55.13 | mheath | They don't happen to have places to hang up clothing on planes, do they? |
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| 17:55.53 | graphyx | mheath: They don't. |
| 17:56.22 | graphyx | Typically your larger suitcases wil have an area that you hang the hook on and then a bar that you fold the the cloths over so they are folded in half and fit in it ok. |
| 17:57.18 | mheath | graphyx: The way my clothing is folded over the hanger, I doubt it would fit |
| 17:57.25 | mheath | Besides, I don't have a suitcase |
| 17:58.18 | graphyx | ok |
| 17:58.23 | graphyx | Just telling you what I know. |
| 17:58.49 | mheath | The other question is, what do I do with my shoes? :D |
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| 18:00.38 | mheath | graphyx: Any suggestions on that? |
| 18:04.35 | graphyx | wear them? ;) |
| 18:10.56 | tensai | mheath: c.s. lewis was overtly christian and never hid the fact that he wrote a christian theme into his stories. but I agree that people are getting carried away with church v. state. |
| 18:11.16 | graphyx | I agree whole heartedly. |
| 18:11.40 | graphyx | The original intent was for the government not to be able to say, X is the relegion that you will practice and you will do so in this manner. |
| 18:12.11 | graphyx | Rather than Sir, you can't be part of X religion or do Y practice if the government has any part of it. |
| 18:12.33 | graphyx | That is the current day liberal slant that groups like the ACLU are trying to enforce. (Rather effectively I might add...) |
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| 18:45.35 | graphyx | tensai: Want to play pioneers in a little bit? |
| 18:46.39 | emcnabb | Amazon is dumb: we ordered two cheese slicers from them, and they sent us 6! |
| 18:46.58 | graphyx | wow... |
| 18:47.11 | graphyx | can you say craigslist? |
| 18:47.29 | graphyx | or you have just finished all of your Christmas shopping? |
| 18:48.27 | emcnabb | this will be a cheap Christmas |
| 18:48.33 | graphyx | heh. |
| 18:52.22 | elg | emcnabb: sweet, now you have a cheese slicer for me! |
| 18:52.49 | graphyx | elg: thinking about getting are we? |
| 18:53.13 | elg | well, I don't have a cheese slicer to give him, so yes. |
| 18:53.18 | emcnabb | dang... I knew I shouldn't have said anything ;-) |
| 18:54.13 | graphyx | You should have put a price on them... ;) |
| 18:54.35 | graphyx | My brother in law had a similar problem. They listed it wrong on the website. 6 headphones for the price of 1. |
| 18:54.53 | graphyx | He called up and ordered it on the phone and double checked that that was what they wanted. |
| 18:54.53 | graphyx | And then ordered it. |
| 18:54.59 | graphyx | And after ordering called up to check once more. |
| 18:55.23 | graphyx | THey didn't initially give him all 6, but he called back and told them he checked multiple times and eventually they gave him all 6 headsets. |
| 19:05.22 | graphyx | tensai: You still online? |
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| 19:32.14 | xbmodder | emcnabb, What'd they bill you for? |
| 20:02.27 | maquis | [osiris erins] bc |
| 20:02.27 | maquis | bc: error while loading shared libraries: libreadline.so.5: cannot open shared object file: Input/output error |
| 20:07.48 | vontrapp | sounds like fun |
| 20:08.15 | vontrapp | sounds like a read error, are the libraries on a network drive? |
| 20:08.27 | vontrapp | maybe your HD is crashing |
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| 20:10.48 | graphyx_home | anyone for a game of pioneers? |
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| 21:14.16 | emcnabb | they only billed us for the two |
| 21:17.00 | maquis | emcnabb: at leaset they err in the customer's favor... |
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| 21:38.08 | maquis | apparently sending mp3blaster through 2 screens doesn't work that nicely |
| 21:38.34 | maquis | or at least sending it through ssh and then screen |
| 21:38.36 | maquis | not sure why |
| 21:40.44 | maquis | apparently as long as i run it in screen on my server, it works fine... but if i run it (from my server) in screen on my local machine, it doesn't work :( |
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