| 00:03.13 | maquis | -lart SpecialZ |
| 00:03.33 | SpecialZ | -iot |
| 00:03.41 | SpecialZ | -ibot |
| 00:22.45 | hans | http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=656 |
| 00:22.46 | brac | [Piled Higher and Deeper] |
| 00:24.25 | hans | what's this? a google ad that's an image? http://blogs.pragprog.com/cgi-bin/pragdave.cgi/Practices/Magical.html |
| 00:24.45 | hans | http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CI6Epdvp_PfCzAEQ1AMYMTII9LfNJAvkQsM&ai=Be8GQPpOPQ-K5Nr7aLJqo5cAN8vKFCsComqkBwI23AcC4AhABGAEg0IS1A0iFOVC4lPiCB7IBEmJsb2dzLnByYWdwcm9nLmNvbboBCTQ2OHg2MF9hc8gBAtoBRWh0dHA6Ly9ibG9ncy5wcmFncHJvZy5jb20vY2dpLWJpbi9wcmFnZGF2ZS5jZ2kvUHJhY3RpY2VzL01hZ2ljYWwuaHRtbJUCCgt_EA |
| 00:24.51 | hans | (that's the image) |
| 00:25.36 | xbmodder | wow. |
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| 00:41.28 | maquis | http://news.com.com/5208-1045-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=11338&messageID=84465&start=-128 <-- is this true, and ifit is, isn't there a good bit of prior art? |
| 00:45.25 | mheath | hmmm |
| 00:48.13 | xbmodder | wow, xool/cool |
| 00:51.59 | harleypig | mheath: the real question is ... can you shave looking at your boots? |
| 00:52.28 | mheath | I don't have shined boots. I have shined dress shoes |
| 00:52.31 | mheath | And, yes :) |
| 00:53.26 | mheath | well, the toe |
| 00:53.26 | mheath | *toes |
| 00:53.28 | mheath | I'm still working on the rest |
| 00:54.21 | mheath | I've decided to never buy corfams |
| 00:54.49 | mheath | My shoes are just as shiny...and the difference is, you scuff up corfams, you ruin a pair of shoes. You scuff these up, you add a little polish and they're good as new |
| 00:57.42 | harleypig | I forgot ... yer a squid ... don't need no boots. :> |
| 00:58.26 | mheath | I'm buying boots |
| 00:58.39 | mheath | For my training exercise |
| 00:58.53 | mheath | But I'm just going to add some polish and buff, not do a spit shine |
| 00:59.06 | mheath | there would be no point....they're field infantry boots, as will be used as field infantry boots. |
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| 01:02.17 | harleypig | yeah, spits wasted on boots that're gonna be in the mud and ... stuff. |
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| 01:05.22 | amcnabb | Has everyone heard about the UUG meeting tonight? |
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| 01:06.40 | emcnabb | yup |
| 01:06.44 | amcnabb | :) |
| 01:06.55 | amcnabb | Topher got some thumb drives. |
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| 01:07.40 | Newsome | and he's giving them out? |
| 01:07.49 | amcnabb | I wish. |
| 01:08.51 | Newsome | he's put them together into one RAID device? |
| 01:09.06 | amcnabb | We're going to do that in the meeting. |
| 01:09.38 | Newsome | cool |
| 01:09.53 | emcnabb | awesome |
| 01:10.16 | amcnabb | Evan, I love your water bottle picture. |
| 01:10.33 | emcnabb | funny, huh? |
| 01:10.35 | amcnabb | I'm not sure about it's educational value, but it's cool. |
| 01:10.41 | emcnabb | I thought it might be a good intro :-) |
| 01:11.07 | Newsome | water bottle? modified 'Evian' bottle? |
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| 01:11.20 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 01:11.22 | xbmodder_lappy | sup all |
| 01:11.23 | amcnabb | Evan, should I post it, or do you have it somewhere? |
| 01:11.33 | emcnabb | I'll post it |
| 01:11.34 | emcnabb | hold on |
| 01:12.13 | emcnabb | http://evan.mcnabbs.org/tmp/raid.jpg |
| 01:12.38 | Newsome | haha |
| 01:13.02 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 01:13.35 | xbmodder_lappy | anyone here a linksys employee that knows how to calculate the reset (unlock) password for the PAP2 (VoIP adapter) |
| 01:14.06 | emcnabb | wtf xbmodder_lappy? |
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| 01:14.24 | emcnabb | do you really think that someone on #utah works for linksys? |
| 01:15.01 | graphyx | I don't think Linksys has any offices in utah. |
| 01:15.10 | graphyx | Didn't they get bought out by cisco anyways? |
| 01:15.48 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, maybe. |
| 01:16.48 | emcnabb | does anyone here work for Timex? My watch gets a little off each month? |
| 01:16.56 | graphyx | Ok then next question. xbmodder_lappy If there was someone from linksys that hangs out in #utah, what makes you think they would just hand out secrets like that anyway? |
| 01:17.03 | graphyx | emcnabb: lol. |
| 01:17.29 | maquis | emcnabb: nice :) |
| 01:18.03 | emcnabb | I'm also looking for someone who works at Sleep Inn. My room is little cold and the heater doesn't work right. |
| 01:18.04 | emcnabb | anyone? |
| 01:18.34 | graphyx | emcnabb: DO you stay in mariotts often when you travel? |
| 01:18.39 | emcnabb | geez. #utah sucks |
| 01:18.42 | emcnabb | sometimes |
| 01:18.46 | mheath | I'm looking for someone who works at the Galaxy Army Navy Store in New Yourk City |
| 01:18.53 | emcnabb | me too! |
| 01:19.34 | Newsome | emcnabb: I don't work for them, but if you light your couch on fire, someone will be up to help you very quickly! |
| 01:19.36 | emcnabb | I'm sure you can find someone on IRC |
| 01:19.45 | mheath | xbmodder: when you find them, ask me to e-mail me the complete source code for all of their products. |
| 01:19.46 | emcnabb | Newsome, :-) |
| 01:20.06 | graphyx | Guys, do be so hard on him. |
| 01:20.19 | graphyx | We have been able to help him so much he thinks that we know everything. |
| 01:20.20 | emcnabb | can I have some stock if you get ahold of them? |
| 01:20.27 | graphyx | It isn't his fault. |
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| 01:20.37 | emcnabb | graphyx, "do be so hard on him"? |
| 01:20.50 | graphyx | xbmodder_lappy: We don't know everything. Try google. He does, you just have to ask the right question. |
| 01:21.18 | maquis | emcnabb: he was just encouraging you |
| 01:21.32 | Newsome | ~google combination to Tiger Woods' locker |
| 01:21.33 | emcnabb | ok |
| 01:23.15 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, well, maybe you did? |
| 01:24.14 | graphyx | Newsome, google has the right combination. but since there are lots of combinations it doesn't tell you which one is right. |
| 01:24.37 | xbmodder_lappy | a couple have been leaked, its generated by a program which the senior support techinicians have access to. Just maybe, by a long shot a senior technician who is willing to give out the unlock codes is here in #utah right now reading this |
| 01:25.05 | graphyx | xbmodder_lappy: No it isn't possible. |
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| 01:25.08 | graphyx | Just forget it. |
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| 01:26.00 | xbmodder_lappy | Leilas, you have something to explain -- why did you give me mheath's e-mail address. Also, why did you say he used vulgar language with you? |
| 01:26.24 | maquis | -lart sore throats and aching ears |
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| 01:26.45 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, i did after emcnabb started to make fun of me. |
| 01:27.03 | graphyx | who is leilas? There is no one in here using that handle. |
| 01:27.32 | mheath | xbmodder: O.o? |
| 01:27.42 | mheath | Gave you my e-mail address? |
| 01:27.46 | maquis | graphyx: there was for a minute |
| 01:28.03 | graphyx | I must have missed them. |
| 01:28.39 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, there was. |
| 01:28.57 | graphyx | I don't doubt it. |
| 01:29.16 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: what's going on? |
| 01:29.38 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, yeah. I am pretty sure it was a stalker or one of those weird people who try to proove people as child molestors |
| 01:29.48 | graphyx | He is helping us practice patience. |
| 01:30.14 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, it. |
| 01:30.14 | mheath | By the way, they're still logged on, just not on this channel... |
| 01:30.45 | mheath | She gave you *my* e-mail adress? Whats the deal with that? |
| 01:31.13 | emcnabb | xbmodder_lappy, why do you think leilas is that way? |
| 01:31.56 | xbmodder_lappy | one of you or a weirder person than me. |
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| 02:18.50 | emcnabb | ROFL |
| 02:19.00 | emcnabb | xbmodder_lappy, you there? |
| 02:27.33 | tensai | emcnabb: that picture rocks |
| 02:27.46 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 02:28.07 | tensai | now can you diagram LVM for me? :) |
| 02:28.29 | emcnabb | haha |
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| 03:05.07 | graphyx | emcnabb: What picture? |
| 03:06.45 | emcnabb | http://evan.mcnabbs.org/tmp/raid.jpg |
| 03:09.33 | graphyx | Ok that's amuzing. |
| 03:09.56 | graphyx | DId you do thisone yourself? |
| 03:10.02 | emcnabb | no |
| 03:10.07 | emcnabb | a co-worker showed it to me |
| 03:10.17 | graphyx | and you mirrored its content? |
| 03:10.26 | emcnabb | no |
| 03:10.43 | emcnabb | I just showed to it to a few people |
| 03:10.47 | graphyx | ok. |
| 03:10.59 | graphyx | So this isn't headed to your funny page then? |
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| 03:11.04 | xbmodder_ | hey |
| 03:11.31 | emcnabb | it may be in there |
| 03:11.33 | emcnabb | not sure |
| 03:11.37 | maquis | emcnabb: to do lvm, wouldn't you just have to put the whole bottom row to a pipe, then have the pipe have another piece that goes down to the thingy? |
| 03:11.48 | graphyx | What is lvm? |
| 03:12.00 | maquis | then you'd need some way to re-split it, which would be a bit more difficult |
| 03:12.09 | maquis | put that would be the first piece.. |
| 03:12.12 | maquis | or mabe not |
| 03:12.25 | maquis | actually... you'd have to have a couple of these, and do that... |
| 03:12.27 | maquis | or something |
| 03:12.40 | emcnabb | yeah, it would be difficult to make |
| 03:13.43 | emcnabb | xbmodder_, so you know how you were looking for someone at Linksys? |
| 03:13.50 | emcnabb | it looks like you may be related to someone there :-) |
| 03:13.57 | emcnabb | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4729641740.html |
| 03:13.58 | brac | [LinkSys courts Linux hackers with WRT54G"L"] |
| 03:14.09 | emcnabb | I just read that article a few minutes ago |
| 03:14.18 | xbmodder_ | emcnabb: heh |
| 03:14.20 | graphyx | how would that make him related? |
| 03:14.37 | emcnabb | same last name |
| 03:14.38 | xbmodder_ | i saw that too. |
| 03:14.55 | xbmodder_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.00 | xbmodder_ | thats creepy. |
| 03:15.04 | mheath | ~lart USNSCC |
| 03:15.08 | xbmodder_ | too many creepy things happen here. |
| 03:15.14 | graphyx | Dhillon? |
| 03:15.57 | graphyx | mheath I thought that you could get a rank up by being an Eagle scout, or by recruiting others to join |
| 03:16.24 | mheath | graphyx: E-2 |
| 03:16.43 | graphyx | yeah.. |
| 03:16.53 | graphyx | You looking for more than that? |
| 03:16.53 | mheath | (You can make it to E-3 by recruiting others to join, but that requires you to find like 10 people to join......and thats not really possible) |
| 03:17.03 | graphyx | I thought a college degree would also help. |
| 03:17.12 | graphyx | But that would kinda defeat the purpose for you. |
| 03:17.30 | mheath | graphyx: USNSCC is supposed to allow you to start off at E-3 when you join the military, if you make it up to E-3 in the USNSCC |
| 03:17.39 | mheath | However |
| 03:17.53 | mheath | Our local Unit's officers are incompetent morons who lose paperwork and don't follow regulations |
| 03:18.00 | xbmodder_ | heheh |
| 03:18.27 | mheath | While I should have been elligible for promotion to E-2T in *July*.......I'll now be lucky to make it to E-2 by the time I join the USN in 6 months. |
| 03:18.55 | graphyx | mheath: That stinks. |
| 03:19.03 | mheath | It aggrivates me |
| 03:19.08 | mheath | This is an awesome organization |
| 03:19.17 | mheath | Our local unit is just *horrible* |
| 03:21.08 | xbmodder_ | thats terrible |
| 03:21.18 | xbmodder_ | can't you file a complaint or something? |
| 03:21.28 | xbmodder_ | to a higher level? |
| 03:21.39 | mheath | xbmodder: Yeah, thats what I'm going to do. |
| 03:23.57 | xbmodder_ | cool/good |
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| 03:42.41 | xbmodder_ | jsmith: hey hey hay! |
| 03:43.11 | jsmith | Howdy xbmodder |
| 03:55.50 | graphyx | anyone up to pioneers in a little bit? |
| 03:56.01 | graphyx | You would have to host I don't have a way to punch a hole in the firewall at work. |
| 03:57.24 | jsmith | I can't... I've gotta prepare a "Death by PowerPoint" presentation for tomorrow |
| 03:57.41 | graphyx | Why not use open office? |
| 03:57.43 | graphyx | ;) |
| 03:57.51 | jsmith | I gotta go do a ra-ra at BYU to get more candidates to apply at Omniture |
| 03:58.04 | jsmith | I am using Open Office, thank you very much :-) |
| 03:58.04 | graphyx | Oh.. is there a job fair or something? |
| 03:58.12 | jsmith | Something like that... |
| 03:58.22 | graphyx | That would make it some that it isn't "powerpoint". |
| 03:58.24 | jsmith | I just heard about it -- I think it's something they setup specifically for us. |
| 03:58.27 | graphyx | Oh. |
| 03:58.29 | graphyx | ok. |
| 03:58.43 | graphyx | I was thinking that perhaps I would drop by a job fair if it was going on. |
| 03:59.02 | jsmith | Hey, anybody here know anything about Novell eDirectory? I've got a friend looking for a qualified consultant. |
| 03:59.15 | graphyx | Is that a part of Groupwise? |
| 03:59.40 | jsmith | No, it's their equivalent of Active Directory. |
| 04:00.04 | graphyx | My Brother in Law was the Nuskin GroupWise admin until they switched. |
| 04:00.22 | graphyx | I just pinged my sister about it, but doesn't look like anyone is at the computer. |
| 04:00.30 | jsmith | ok |
| 04:00.47 | graphyx | probably putting their kids down right now. |
| 04:01.00 | jsmith | I'll probably post to the lists in the next few days if I don't find anybody... |
| 04:01.07 | graphyx | not a bad idea. |
| 04:08.38 | tensai | graphyx: I can host for you if you need, but I can't play tonight |
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| 04:09.28 | maquis | jsmith: you're going to be at that omniture eeting i read about? |
| 04:10.00 | graphyx | tensai: Well if anyone else wants then perhaps. |
| 04:10.07 | graphyx | but do'nt get too worried about it. |
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| 04:11.13 | tensai | jsmith: if you do find an edirectory consultant, don't let them here you describe it as an "equivalent of Active Directory". that's heresy. |
| 04:12.30 | graphyx | heh. |
| 04:15.33 | graphyx | Isn't that the part that would replicate corrupted data and hose the entire network? |
| 04:16.31 | tensai | well, garbage in garbage out. edirectory is a remarkably scalable and robust bit of software. not sure what you're referring to. |
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| 04:18.11 | tensai | it predates AD by many years, and surpasses it in quality by miles. I'm no novell fan boy, but credit where credit is due. |
| 04:19.47 | jsmith | tensai: I agree... but that's the best way to describe it to someone who doesn't know what it is. |
| 04:20.55 | tensai | jsmith: fair enough |
| 04:21.19 | graphyx | I played with novell netware just a little bit a long time ago. |
| 04:21.28 | tensai | I've just got a particularly bitter spot in my heart for active directory ;) |
| 04:21.43 | graphyx | So I have a little idea of what it is, but that was before my education about computers in general so I am not truly sure of what it is capable of. |
| 04:21.51 | graphyx | not having had anything with which to compare it previously. |
| 04:22.04 | graphyx | Is ldap the open source version of AD then? |
| 04:22.18 | graphyx | (another heretical statement I am sure...) |
| 04:22.42 | tensai | netware is an OS, edirectory is a directory. they're two different things. recent version of netware heavily depend on edirectory, but the reverse is not true. |
| 04:23.08 | graphyx | Well anyways at this point I am going to go home. |
| 04:23.16 | graphyx | I still haven't caught up on my sleep since Tuesday. |
| 04:23.16 | tensai | ldap is a protocol. edirectory and AD both speak it, as do openldap and fedora directory server (aka iplanet, aka netscape directory) |
| 04:23.24 | graphyx | Ok. |
| 04:23.28 | graphyx | Thanks tensai. |
| 04:23.45 | graphyx | Well night y'alls. |
| 04:23.58 | tensai | edirectory (previously known as NDS) and AD both have their own proprietary protocols as well |
| 04:25.37 | tensai | and they all have roots in x.500 |
| 04:26.04 | tensai | maquis: yes, active directory is a part of windows servers since 2k |
| 04:26.13 | xbmodder_lappy | :( |
| 04:26.29 | tensai | ~spell heirarchical |
| 04:26.55 | tensai | maquis: a directory is a hierarchical database optimized for read access |
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| 04:27.24 | tensai | maquis: think of a phone book. doesn't change much, but is referenced a lot |
| 04:28.26 | maquis | mmk |
| 04:29.18 | tensai | maquis: my company uses it to store our customer account data. all email addresses and login data is stored in an openldap directory. |
| 04:30.40 | maquis | tensai: so, you use both AD and ldap, one for each of the two types of information you need? |
| 04:30.43 | tensai | because of its rather static nature, a directory lends itself to replication. we have 4 read-only replicas (in 3 states, even) and one read-write master |
| 04:31.14 | tensai | we only use AD for our windows domain. we use openldap for our customers. the two are completely separate. |
| 04:31.30 | tensai | and AD can speak ldap. it's just a protocol, like http |
| 04:34.10 | jsmith | G'night all... |
| 04:34.18 | ScytheBlade1 | These apple people make me wonder |
| 04:34.36 | ScytheBlade1 | 10.4, updated as far as I can tell, and their copy of SSH will not do port forwarding |
| 04:34.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Solution? build SSH myself |
| 04:34.58 | ScytheBlade1 | configure: error: *** zlib too old - check config.log *** |
| 04:34.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Your reported zlib version has known security problems. |
| 04:35.10 | ScytheBlade1 | then: |
| 04:35.13 | ScytheBlade1 | checking OpenSSL header version... 90702f (OpenSSL 0.9.7b 10 Apr 2003) |
| 04:35.13 | ScytheBlade1 | checking OpenSSL library version... 90707f (OpenSSL 0.9.7g 11 Apr 2005) |
| 04:35.13 | ScytheBlade1 | checking whether OpenSSL's headers match the library... no |
| 04:35.13 | ScytheBlade1 | configure: error: Your OpenSSL headers do not match your library. |
| 04:36.21 | jsmith | Looks like a mismatch to me -- one is 0.9.7b, and the other is 0.9.7g |
| 04:36.34 | ScytheBlade1 | That's exactly what it's telling me, too |
| 04:36.38 | ScytheBlade1 | and SSH won't compile as a result |
| 04:36.59 | jsmith | Why would you expect it to, if your libraries and headers don't match up? |
| 04:37.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Just that |
| 04:37.21 | tensai | I think he's amazed that OSX shipped that way |
| 04:37.21 | ScytheBlade1 | What you're missing, is that this is OSX 10.4 100% updated, just barely installed |
| 04:37.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 04:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, amazed, no |
| 04:37.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Curious as to why...maybe ;) |
| 04:38.13 | jsmith | I don't pretend to understand Apple -- maybe that's why I'm not part of that particular cult yet... |
| 04:38.18 | jsmith | Anyhoo, I'm off... |
| 04:38.27 | ScytheBlade1 | a (probably) broken zlib, and broken OpenSSL |
| 04:39.10 | tensai | hans was complaining that they cross compiled ruby on an x86 box and it caused some errors |
| 04:39.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I remember that |
| 04:39.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Plus, it's comitted the one unforgivable sin |
| 04:39.56 | ScytheBlade1 | no copy of wget anywhere to be found |
| 04:40.02 | tensai | curl? |
| 04:40.30 | ScytheBlade1 | good idea |
| 04:40.35 | ScytheBlade1 | and it's a winner idea, also |
| 04:40.40 | tensai | yay! |
| 04:41.21 | ScytheBlade1 | little late now, I just SSH'd the needed .tar.gz's to it |
| 04:41.25 | ScytheBlade1 | but I'll remember that |
| 04:47.57 | dn3e8 | I am using terminal on my MAC to ssh to a SuSe box, how do I get the 'clickable menu' to carry over |
| 04:48.18 | maquis | dn3e8 is referring to the clickable menu in emacs, btw :) |
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| 04:59.34 | dn3e8 | I have a headless linux box that I only ssh to, There is still GUI running on it using semi-valuable processor, how can i 'quit' the GUI (KDE) I may want to remote desktop to it but still being able to is low priority.. |
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| 05:00.18 | maquis | dn3e8: ssh in and run ps to determine that kde is still running |
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| 05:00.46 | maquis | if it is, you should be able to run 'killall kde' |
| 05:01.00 | tensai | apparently he killed the wrong process |
| 05:01.10 | maquis | dunno |
| 05:02.06 | tensai | ~killall maquis |
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| 05:03.48 | maquis | -lart levi |
| 05:04.05 | levi | Mmmm, sauce. |
| 05:04.35 | hans | is someone trying to ddos me? 22:04:10.511424 IP 68.142.145.145.10662 > falcon.fugal.net.1024: UDP, length 45 |
| 05:04.39 | hans | 22:04:10.516957 IP falcon.fugal.net > 68.142.145.145: ICMP falcon.fugal.net udp port 1024 unreachable, length 36 |
| 05:04.50 | hans | *lots (well, only 20Kbit worth, but still) |
| 05:04.59 | tensai | hans: probably a virus |
| 05:05.17 | tensai | there's an ms worm on ports 1024 to 1028-ish |
| 05:06.30 | tensai | you could ask your ISP to block them |
| 05:06.32 | hans | probably then. |
| 05:08.17 | hans | hmm, no it's actually looking like a dead sip connection |
| 05:08.23 | hans | awol is more like it |
| 05:08.26 | hans | stupid x-lite |
| 05:13.22 | maquis | tensai: he says that kde was taking up 45% of the processor according to top |
| 05:13.26 | maquis | how could that be? |
| 05:13.32 | maquis | that's crazy |
| 05:14.50 | tensai | kde is whacked |
| 05:15.45 | maquis | he said that that was half his cpu usage... |
| 05:15.52 | maquis | on a headless box, i'm curious what the other half was |
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| 05:18.02 | maquis | dn3e8: you said that killing kde freed 50% of your cpu usage |
| 05:18.14 | maquis | what's the top item in top now? |
| 05:18.45 | maquis | i'm curious why you still have 40% cpu usage on a headless box without X running |
| 05:19.44 | dn3e8 | I was in top i had 55% nice used by FAH... with 16% something else and the rest On X... whe I killed KDE nice (FAH) jupped to 99.7% top was .3% |
| 05:19.57 | maquis | FAH? |
| 05:20.01 | maquis | what's FAH? |
| 05:20.04 | dn3e8 | FahCore_79.exe |
| 05:20.12 | dn3e8 | Folding at home |
| 05:20.18 | maquis | oh... |
| 05:20.35 | maquis | well... that's always going to take whatever cpu usage you're not giving to something else |
| 05:20.56 | dn3e8 | Distubuted computing form stanford.. (sound like you know) |
| 05:21.01 | dn3e8 | *from |
| 05:21.09 | maquis | the nice means that it will play nicely with other processes, allowing them to take their turn when they want to |
| 05:21.26 | maquis | so, it'll only use it when others (who are not niced) aren't |
| 05:21.34 | dn3e8 | but I can fold more if an unused GUi isn't running.. |
| 05:21.48 | maquis | yes |
| 05:21.56 | dn3e8 | ok I am a little competitive with my Folding |
| 05:22.06 | maquis | i'm still startled that kde/x was taking up 45% of your cpu... but... |
| 05:23.06 | maquis | i have a gui running, and firefox and gaim and irc and a couple other things, and my cpu is < 1% the vast majority of the time |
| 05:23.15 | dn3e8 | it is a 1GHz with 256 ram.. |
| 05:23.56 | maquis | still interesting |
| 05:24.33 | maquis | i guess kde is more of bloat-ware than i thought it was |
| 05:24.33 | dn3e8 | I may have installed wrong.. |
| 05:24.44 | dn3e8 | what GUi are you on |
| 05:24.50 | maquis | evilwm |
| 05:25.17 | maquis | it's one of the smallest... but i can't see why any GUI would need > 5% of the cpu |
| 05:25.25 | maquis | http://www.6809.org.uk/evilwm/ |
| 05:26.50 | maquis | ooh... big yawn just cleared out my ear |
| 05:27.05 | maquis | now if i can just get it to do the other one, i'll be able to hear for a minute or two |
| 05:27.34 | dn3e8 | make me yawn |
| 05:28.27 | tensai | maquis: kde doesn't eat up so much cpu under normal circumstances |
| 05:28.58 | dna3e8 | I wonder what I did |
| 05:29.11 | maquis | tensai: that's good to know |
| 05:29.29 | maquis | dna3e8: could you possibly have had some other program running inside kde? |
| 05:29.39 | maquis | a couple of big hungry programs? |
| 05:29.45 | maquis | like openoffice or something |
| 05:30.12 | dna3e8 | I shouldn't have |
| 05:30.16 | maquis | hmmm |
| 05:30.21 | maquis | it's interesting :) |
| 05:33.30 | dna3e8 | from ps aux there was some 22 processes runigf in KDE |
| 05:36.16 | maquis | dna3e8: that might be the problem, then |
| 05:36.32 | maquis | ok... i know that tar has some sort of pretend option |
| 05:36.36 | maquis | but i'm not seeing it |
| 05:44.00 | mheath | maquis: try "tar --files-from F" |
| 05:44.02 | mheath | From the manpage: |
| 05:44.06 | mheath | -T, --files-from F |
| 05:44.14 | mheath | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:44.55 | mheath | or you could do something like: |
| 05:44.59 | mheath | well |
| 05:45.17 | maquis | mheath: ah |
| 05:45.20 | mheath | run tar with the --verify option, and pass it through some expect and 'yes' foo so that no is automatically answered |
| 05:45.49 | maquis | i was looking for something named more... sensically |
| 05:46.02 | mheath | maquis: Well, thats the problem |
| 05:46.09 | mheath | Thats not a posix tar option |
| 05:46.18 | mheath | And because GNU Tar attempts to maintain compatability with POSIX stuff..... |
| 05:46.24 | maquis | still |
| 05:46.28 | maquis | it's poorly named |
| 05:46.29 | mheath | Some of the neat GNU features get shoved off to weird switches |
| 05:47.51 | mheath | gah |
| 05:47.52 | mheath | I hate man pages |
| 05:48.01 | mheath | texinfo++ |
| 05:48.14 | mheath | its imposible to find info in man pages... |
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| 06:27.56 | xbmodder | Why is super size me a schoolastic DVD now? |
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| 06:32.07 | xbmodder | dna3e8, who are you? |
| 06:32.17 | dna3e8 | me |
| 06:32.24 | dna3e8 | the sone of my dad |
| 06:32.36 | dna3e8 | Dave |
| 06:32.54 | dna3e8 | new one that went to the emacs meeting |
| 06:33.37 | xbmodder | oh, sure, hi dave. |
| 06:34.04 | dna3e8 | end you are.. |
| 06:34.15 | dna3e8 | *and |
| 06:36.02 | dna3e8 | BYU UGG/MUG |
| 06:37.57 | maquis | dna3e8: he's a californian teenager who hangs out here |
| 06:38.03 | dna3e8 | i am |
| 06:38.11 | maquis | no.. xbmodder is |
| 06:38.35 | dna3e8 | sorry new to IRC... I will read it write some time |
| 06:38.42 | maquis | er... bedward |
| 06:39.05 | dna3e8 | how did you make "heads edward" |
| 06:39.14 | dna3e8 | italic |
| 06:39.29 | dna3e8 | I AM FROM UTAH |
| 06:40.02 | maquis | dna3e8: it's an action... i typed '/me heads edward' (or bedward) |
| 06:40.10 | maquis | and no need to yell |
| 06:40.33 | dna3e8 | ok I am grabbing a few IRC 'tags' here and there |
| 06:40.35 | maquis | i'm assuming that the action is why it turned out italic for you |
| 06:40.45 | maquis | gnight |
| 06:40.48 | dna3e8 | night |
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| 07:23.09 | xbmodder_lappy | ~xbmodder |
| 07:23.10 | ibot | [xbmodder] a world record setting 14 year old great guy who lives in paradise |
| 07:23.22 | xbmodder_lappy | exactly :) |
| 07:24.00 | findlay | ~forget findlay |
| 07:24.00 | ibot | i forgot findlay, findlay |
| 07:24.12 | findlay | ibot: who did you forget? |
| 07:24.23 | xbmodder_lappy | ~findlay |
| 07:24.34 | findlay | ~forget everything |
| 07:24.34 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'everything' to forget, findlay |
| 07:24.51 | findlay | ~forget something |
| 07:24.51 | ibot | i forgot something, findlay |
| 07:24.58 | findlay | ha |
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| 08:13.27 | findlay | hahaha, lol...rofl!! |
| 08:13.38 | findlay | xbmodder_lappy are you still here? |
| 08:13.53 | findlay | is anyone here? |
| 08:15.21 | findlay | or is my humor tinctured by being unshared? |
| 08:15.51 | findlay | well, ibot's here, so I'll share for the sake of posterity |
| 08:18.36 | findlay | lesser men would blench at the proposition of talking to themselves in so public a place, where ultimately all things said will be irrevocably etched into some hard drive where ibot stores the logs |
| 08:20.17 | findlay | and from there assimilated into the google monster |
| 08:20.25 | findlay | but I digress |
| 08:20.50 | findlay | I propose an experiment. |
| 08:23.51 | findlay | Suppose, if you will, what should happen when 15 to 20 thousand college students, lusers in effect, at least for the purposes of our experiment |
| 08:25.05 | findlay | suppose that they would be required to submit their email address as a contact field for institute class registration. |
| 08:28.56 | findlay | Now suppose that a committtee of plucky young chaps and gals were to take upon themselves the onerous labor of copying this list of addresses into digital form |
| 08:30.28 | findlay | Now that you have a list of 20,000 luser email addresses, what can you possibly do with them? |
| 08:30.51 | findlay | spam is an idea, but that's pretty old school. |
| 08:31.08 | findlay | I propose ... a mailing list! |
| 08:32.08 | findlay | Where do you put your list? On the Church's very own list server, of course |
| 08:33.39 | findlay | What happens to that server when 20,000 lusers start replying to the list in complete confusion |
| 08:34.15 | findlay | the escalation of groupthink is exponential |
| 08:34.55 | findlay | and the server is brought to it's very knees |
| 08:37.42 | findlay | the overall effect being that messages as immediate as 6 hours ago are filtering from the server back to the masses at the paltry rate of 1 per 10 minutes |
| 08:38.33 | findlay | about |
| 08:39.15 | findlay | who knows what mother lode clueless n00b banter is churning back at the server |
| 08:39.35 | findlay | how big it is, rather |
| 08:39.50 | findlay | so ... I feel awkward now |
| 08:39.56 | findlay | maybe I'll go to bed |
| 08:40.45 | findlay | anyway, there's your tale for tonight |
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| 14:36.49 | graphyx | Morning everybody. |
| 14:42.45 | jsmith | Morning graphyx |
| 14:47.00 | graphyx | You at work already jsmith? |
| 14:47.15 | jsmith | Nope... |
| 14:47.25 | graphyx | What time do you get to work usually? |
| 14:47.36 | jsmith | Usually between 8:30 and 9. |
| 14:47.58 | jsmith | But I'm repairing some corrupt database tables this morning, so I haven't even had a shower yet :-( |
| 14:48.00 | graphyx | So this is just your last minute before leaving the house jump on and chat period? |
| 14:48.06 | graphyx | Oh that's fun. |
| 14:48.31 | jsmith | No, this is a "Late for work because I've been up all night doing work" morning |
| 14:49.59 | graphyx | that is even more fun. |
| 14:50.13 | jsmith | Comes with the territory, I guess. |
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| 15:08.16 | xbmodder | morning all |
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| 15:43.24 | graphyx | jsmith: Sounds like you should just work from home and call up your remote hands at work to do anything needed there.. ;) |
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| 16:33.37 | levi | Morning. |
| 16:34.01 | harleypig | It is? |
| 16:36.58 | levi | Yup. |
| 16:37.01 | levi | Alas. |
| 16:42.38 | harleypig | goozbach: You got yer ears on? |
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| 16:49.11 | tensai | harleypig: try invoke goozbach |
| 16:50.07 | harleypig | invoke goozbach |
| 16:50.19 | harleypig | tensai: what the heck was that? |
| 16:50.36 | tensai | harleypig: script he wrote. I think it emails or pages him. |
| 16:50.41 | harleypig | cool |
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| 16:58.58 | Hhhhh | hmm, for anybody interested, 3dgamers.com has a quake 4 linux demo |
| 17:01.10 | RyanE | if(!stricmp(pCmd->getRawCommand(), "SKIP_FWD")) { SimpleSend(); } // Send Preset Up Command |
| 17:01.13 | RyanE | hehe |
| 17:01.30 | dna3e8 | when I type host name it returns the new host name, but it is not recognized on the net (ping <new hostname > doesn't work |
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| 17:03.10 | tensai | dna3e8: did you change it in /etc/hosts? |
| 17:03.14 | dna3e8 | no |
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| 17:05.29 | dna3e8 | I am veiw inf /etc/hosts... what do i change (i don't see the old host name |
| 17:05.56 | dna3e8 | *viewing |
| 17:06.41 | dna3e8 | I used hostname <new name> to 'set' it |
| 17:09.58 | harleypig | http://www.cuppatea.org/rememberkids.jpg |
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| 17:13.12 | graphyx | hey Lars. |
| 17:13.17 | graphyx | How areyou doing? |
| 17:13.32 | lars-ut | ok... I'm deleteing Content.IE5 folders to clean up a system |
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| 17:13.44 | lars-ut | I love WinPE |
| 17:13.59 | graphyx | Is that the non open source BartPE? |
| 17:14.03 | lars-ut | yes |
| 17:14.13 | graphyx | Yeah BartPE rocks as well. |
| 17:14.34 | lars-ut | What I'm using is actually called "Super WinPE" - lets me pimpslap around winxp systems |
| 17:15.12 | graphyx | yeah.. |
| 17:15.29 | graphyx | I used one of those to recover some files off of crashed windows XP system. |
| 17:18.31 | Uncle_Jesse | man - it is dumping in Park City now |
| 17:19.15 | graphyx | Are you excited or dismayed? |
| 17:19.18 | graphyx | -weather |
| 17:19.18 | brac | 24 minutes ago, on Fri Dec 02 16:55:00 UTC 2005, the wind was blowing at a speed of 6.69 meters per second (14.96 miles per hour), with gusts to 10.80 meters per second (24.17 miles per hour), from the Southwest at KPVU. The temperature was 7 degrees Celsius (45 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1008 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 65.6%. There were a few clouds at a height of 30 meters (100 feet), |
| 17:19.18 | brac | scattered clouds at a height of 427 meter (1400 feet) and broken clouds at a height of 884 meters (2900 feet). There was of precipitation in the last hour. |
| 17:21.37 | graphyx | brac, what does "there was of precipitation" mean? |
| 17:21.38 | brac | dunno |
| 17:21.47 | graphyx | me either man. |
| 17:24.04 | harleypig | :D |
| 17:26.27 | goozbach | yo rang? |
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| 17:26.54 | goozbach | harleypig: I havent done anything else with that |
| 17:29.41 | goozbach | the shellified thing works, but I havent perlified it |
| 17:30.03 | graphyx | goozbach: Is your invoke script extendable to others? |
| 17:30.35 | harleypig | goozbach: That's all right ... I figure it out, but I don't know how reliable it is ... just a second |
| 17:31.39 | harleypig | my $tty = ( grep { $_ && m#^/dev# } map { readlink } </proc/$$/fd/*> )[-1] |
| 17:32.12 | graphyx | Is that the switch tty script of yours? |
| 17:32.30 | harleypig | Now I'm trying to make a screen_get_fork_TTY but having some difficulty in understanding how exactly perl5db.pl is doing t hings. |
| 17:32.31 | harleypig | yeah. |
| 17:32.50 | harleypig | That's the generic form of the find_tty function. |
| 17:34.05 | harleypig | It's worked under all the ways I've tested it, but I don't know how reliable /proc/$$/fd/* is and I don't know if ( </proc/$$/fd/*> )[-1] always has the actual tty. |
| 17:34.24 | harleypig | #perl is, as usual, less than helpful. |
| 17:34.40 | dna3e8 | I ssh to a headless linux box, it's Ip may change and the host name is way too long so when I go home is will be hard to ssh to... |
| 17:34.53 | dna3e8 | I am trying to change its host name |
| 17:35.38 | dna3e8 | I used: hostname daves-linux |
| 17:36.14 | dna3e8 | if I type: hostname It returns the new host name |
| 17:36.25 | dna3e8 | but I can't ping the new name. |
| 17:37.06 | jlp_work | dna3e8: you're trying to ping the new name from some other host? the hostname on the system has nothing to do with the hostname in dns |
| 17:37.30 | dna3e8 | oh that is good to know |
| 17:37.38 | dna3e8 | how do i change DNS |
| 17:37.50 | jlp_work | depends on who owns it |
| 17:38.00 | dna3e8 | BYU OWNS IT |
| 17:38.33 | dna3e8 | IT IS: Knoppix-udp0039311776uds |
| 17:39.00 | dna3e8 | just connected to the network in the dorms |
| 17:39.25 | jlp_work | presumably there is some CSR who is responsible for the dorms... likely they would tell you that they can't change dns for students, though |
| 17:39.43 | jlp_work | it's been a long time since I worked at byu... not familiar with all the changes |
| 17:40.01 | dna3e8 | the hostname of my other computer is sensible... |
| 17:40.20 | tensai | it might be a matter of what your dhcp client sends as its hostname |
| 17:46.58 | ScytheBlade1 | try setting the hostname, double-checking it took effect everywhere needed, and do DHCP again |
| 17:48.45 | dna3e8 | I'm new... how do i "check every where"? and how do I "do DHCP"? |
| 17:57.49 | tensai | dna3e8: what distribution? |
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| 17:58.34 | dna3e8 | SuSE 10.0 |
| 17:58.34 | tensai | has anybody considered that "distro" is short for "distribution" but it's not spelled "distrobution"? |
| 18:02.31 | tensai | dna3e8: sorry, I've never used suse |
| 18:03.09 | dna3e8 | I am doing it all over ssh... should that be common for most distros? |
| 18:03.24 | dna3e8 | ... No YAST :| |
| 18:09.06 | lars-ut | has anyone created a page or links collection of local outdoor web cams? |
| 18:09.20 | lars-ut | please don't say udot |
| 18:14.11 | goozbach | graphyx: http://users.netradius.com/~goozbach/ |
| 18:14.28 | goozbach | it's the sendme.pl script |
| 18:14.44 | goozbach | fully extensible |
| 18:17.11 | RyanE | lars-ut: I assume you mean *working* outdoor web cams... :) |
| 18:17.42 | lars-ut | that would be help ful |
| 18:18.35 | RyanE | googling for it yields plenty of non-working weather cams. :) I also can't find any good source for working weather cam links. |
| 18:19.09 | lars-ut | RyanE: I might try to shove 'em in iframes if & when I find some good ones |
| 18:19.33 | lars-ut | googling... |
| 18:20.40 | lars-ut | http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/camera/mosaic/All.Cameras.php |
| 18:21.52 | lars-ut | that link is pretty darn good - a few of the cameras are down but most are working |
| 18:22.27 | lars-ut | amazing what a google search on 'utah outdoor webcams' will do... |
| 18:22.48 | lars-ut | hope that link is helpful to others as well. |
| 18:23.02 | goozbach | amazing wha a google search will do period :) |
| 18:23.19 | lars-ut | and what it won't |
| 18:23.37 | tensai | ~google ham and cheese sandwich |
| 18:24.06 | lars-ut | ibot you're useless |
| 18:24.08 | ibot | ACTION starts crying and hides from lars-ut in the darkest corner of the room. :( |
| 18:24.08 | tensai | c'mon google, don't let me down. I'm hungry! |
| 18:24.35 | lars-ut | ~google Reuben Sandwich |
| 18:26.03 | tensai | I'm sure ibot used to do google searches, but I don't see it listed in her help |
| 18:28.32 | lars-ut | ~weather kpvu |
| 18:35.10 | emcnabb | I just got a tour of one of Bank of America's main datacenters |
| 18:35.14 | emcnabb | talk about HUGE |
| 18:35.15 | emcnabb | wow |
| 18:35.59 | findlay | was it, like, big? |
| 18:36.27 | emcnabb | it took an hour |
| 18:36.39 | findlay | do they still use tapes? |
| 18:37.12 | emcnabb | everyone uses tapes |
| 18:37.31 | emcnabb | how else do you do backups? |
| 18:39.02 | RyanE | lars-ut: I had found noaa's page, and clicked on 3 cams, but I was lucky enough to click them separately, and got 3 'Not Available' cams. :( |
| 18:39.25 | findlay | is there an open source program like dream weaver? |
| 18:39.41 | lars-ut | RyanE: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/camera/mosaic/NorthernUtah2.php |
| 18:39.58 | lars-ut | I've only tried 2 there |
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| 18:40.07 | lars-ut | they both worked though |
| 18:40.50 | lars-ut | findlay: yes - nvu |
| 18:41.09 | lars-ut | http://www.nvu.com/ |
| 18:41.10 | brac | [Nvu - The Complete Web Authoring System for Linux, Macintosh and Windows] |
| 18:42.31 | goozbach | yeah yeah that one |
| 18:42.42 | goozbach | it almost doesnt suck |
| 18:51.58 | findlay | what about openoffice? |
| 18:59.28 | tensai | nvu has a horrible feature of reformatting the html, apparently even when you tell it not too |
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| 19:08.49 | lars-ut | tensai: say it isn't so |
| 19:09.11 | hfugal | lars-ut: it's so |
| 19:09.16 | hfugal | or maybe not |
| 19:09.17 | lars-ut | that's a little too much like other web editors |
| 19:09.17 | tensai | "it isn't so", for some definitions of "it" |
| 19:09.36 | tensai | yeah, I know. I was really disappointed too |
| 19:09.54 | hans | web editors are breeding grounds for disappointment |
| 19:09.59 | hans | which one are you disappointed in? |
| 19:10.12 | tensai | nvu |
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| 19:18.31 | graphyx | NOOP |
| 19:27.29 | harleypig | segmentation fault |
| 19:29.55 | graphyx | harleypig: I didn't realize that you were so easy to crash.. |
| 19:30.01 | graphyx | I should have tried that years ago. |
| 19:30.35 | Jayce^ | he thought that was a NOOP on his drink_pepsi() method, and yes, that does cause a crash in his case |
| 19:30.55 | RyanE | but... segmenting has to be painful. |
| 19:31.16 | Jayce^ | without pepsi, he doesn't feel a thing |
| 19:33.15 | graphyx | I bet that makes it east to take care of a head ache |
| 19:52.49 | findlay | gdb harleypig |
| 19:53.58 | graphyx | findlay: I would be careful poking around in harleypig's memory. |
| 19:54.02 | graphyx | or his core dumps. |
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| 20:07.27 | goozbach | ha ha core dumps |
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| 20:21.01 | goozbach | blargfooblarg |
| 20:22.22 | findlay | has anyone ever played with their kernel CFLAGS? |
| 20:29.01 | maquis | -lart goozbach |
| 20:31.18 | goozbach | ~punk maquis |
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| 20:58.12 | mrpull- | gahh: pacopablo has dealt mrpull a Critical Strike! 0 days, 11:14:34 is added to mrpull's clock |
| 21:06.27 | harleypig | mrpull- Wait until you close your idlerpg window by mistake right before you level up and get 2 days added on to your time! |
| 21:08.12 | harleypig | I broke Pandora! It said "It's taking longer than expected to figure out which song to play next!" |
| 21:08.31 | harleypig | there it goes. |
| 21:09.24 | RyanE | it's the cross-product between "bob marley" and "The Kings Singers" that's killing it. :) |
| 21:09.37 | Jayce^ | you must be polluting it harleypig ... it just queued up 'flashdance' for me! |
| 21:09.45 | RyanE | Jayce: hehe |
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| 21:10.11 | RyanE | Jayce^: Just admit that you *LIKED* it and move on... :) |
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| 21:17.27 | harleypig | :D |
| 21:17.34 | harleypig | From a newsletter I get: |
| 21:17.35 | harleypig | Vince Vaughn and Jennifer Aniston were pulled over by Scottsdale police |
| 21:17.35 | harleypig | earlier this week, and Vaughn was given a sobriety test. "It's not that he |
| 21:17.35 | harleypig | was driving erratically," said the officer. "We just can't think of any |
| 21:17.36 | harleypig | other reason why he'd be dating her." Other officers speculate Vaughn may |
| 21:17.36 | harleypig | have lost some type of bet. |
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| 21:17.45 | harleypig | woops. |
| 21:17.51 | harleypig | I hate gaim sometimes. |
| 21:18.41 | harleypig | Hmmm ... I wonder if the Russian State Men's Choir is on their list ... |
| 21:19.29 | harleypig | Nope. |
| 21:19.49 | harleypig | What's the name of the cd that has the monks singing? |
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| 21:20.38 | xbmodder_ | hey! |
| 21:20.59 | RyanE | harleypig: gregorian chant? |
| 21:22.04 | RyanE | there's a LOT of those... |
| 21:24.27 | harleypig | RyanE: No ... the monks who sing with both sets of vocal cords and breathe their noses while singing so they never have a break in the music. |
| 21:25.01 | harleypig | err ... breathe *through* their noses ... |
| 21:25.04 | RyanE | harleypig: don't know that one, but seems like you have enough info to Google for it. how many 'monks vocal cords breathe noses' can there be? :) |
| 21:25.16 | harleypig | I'm afraid what it'll bring up... |
| 21:26.32 | RyanE | a lot of tibetan monk CD's as well, surprisingly |
| 21:26.57 | harleypig | umm ... http://www.taphophilia.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2523 |
| 21:27.01 | brac | [Taphophilia (dot) Com - Ghost Stories Haunting Thailand's Tsunami Zones] |
| 21:27.05 | harleypig | How'd that get in their ... |
| 21:27.10 | harleypig | err ... there |
| 21:28.07 | Tene | I'm fairly certain that it's impossible for humans to inhale through their nose while exhaling through their mouth |
| 21:28.30 | RyanE | one would think so, as there's only one 'bellows' that connects to them both. |
| 21:29.14 | harleypig | Tene: I thought so too ... but these guys go 8 to 12 hours singing without stopping for breath |
| 21:29.35 | Tene | are they individuals doing it, or a group? |
| 21:29.43 | harleypig | I need to find it again ... they are monks who spend their whole lives learning how to do it ... |
| 21:32.23 | Tene | lemme know when/if you do |
| 21:34.49 | harleypig | ummm ... http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/09/toilet_huffing_.html |
| 21:37.01 | tensai | following the FCC's recommendation, Cablevision has announced it will be offering a la carte channels |
| 21:37.49 | tensai | I'm surprised it happened so soon. wonder what the details will be. |
| 21:39.16 | mrpull- | i hope direct tv offers a la carte channels |
| 21:39.23 | harleypig | to "recoup losses" it'll be more expensive to choose your own channels. |
| 21:39.26 | goozbach | sign your life away |
| 21:39.35 | RyanE | only $35 / Channel, probably... :) |
| 21:39.41 | mrpull- | harleypig: i've heard that argument... it may be true |
| 21:39.51 | TimRiker | tensai: google perl modules broke. I turned it off in ibot. not yet fixed it to turn it on again. |
| 21:39.59 | RyanE | someone's got to subsidize BET in UT. |
| 21:40.05 | graphyx | So you want sports center and the barbie channel (For the kids).. Umm We can get that to you for only 14.76/month. If you sign a 2 year commitment. |
| 21:40.10 | graphyx | Just think wireless contracts. |
| 21:40.39 | mrpull- | harleypig: the media companies sell the channels in bulk to the providers... and sometimes will try to withhold the "good" channels if the cableco doesn't provide the crap channels in their lineup |
| 21:41.11 | harleypig | RyanE: BET? Black Entertainment Television? |
| 21:41.26 | RyanE | yeah, I'm guessing not many Ala Carte purchases in UT... :) |
| 21:41.27 | harleypig | mrpull- I know. |
| 21:41.30 | xbmodder_ | graphyx: the punk channel? |
| 21:41.34 | goozbach | I was thnkking lifetime |
| 21:41.38 | mrpull- | harleypig: yup. imagine if there was a WSG (white straight guy) channel |
| 21:41.46 | RyanE | hehe |
| 21:41.54 | harleypig | mrpull- There is ... it's called Spike TV |
| 21:41.55 | RyanE | I think there is. |
| 21:41.59 | RyanE | harleypig beat me to it |
| 21:42.02 | goozbach | mrpull-: it's called spike. |
| 21:42.11 | goozbach | heh |
| 21:42.16 | harleypig | It's just not pc to call it that. |
| 21:42.23 | mrpull- | harleypig: true, but it doesn't point out race and sexuality in the name |
| 21:42.26 | RyanE | ST:TNG and robot wars. |
| 21:42.30 | RyanE | 24 hours |
| 21:42.33 | harleypig | You can have stuff dedicated to any race and/or sex but white male. |
| 21:43.00 | graphyx | harleypig: You mean straight white male. |
| 21:43.13 | goozbach | dont forget the bondathons |
| 21:43.16 | levi | I think the SpikeTV name makes it pretty obvious who they're targeting. |
| 21:43.17 | harleypig | graphyx: true |
| 21:43.29 | graphyx | Dogs.. right? spike is a dog's name.. |
| 21:43.43 | harleypig | well, if you see phallus' everywhere, maybe ... :> |
| 21:44.04 | mrpull- | harleypig: I think that is on that other channel |
| 21:45.02 | goozbach | there isn't a white straight male who, at one time or another, hasn't wanted to be James Bond |
| 21:45.48 | goozbach | I meen look at the toys, the chicks the exsotic locals |
| 21:46.45 | tensai | TimRiker: bummer. does it use the google api or screen scraping? |
| 21:47.23 | harleypig | http://yat-kha.blogware.com/download/music/ReCovers/Albert_Kuvezin_Yat_Kha_Love_Will_Tear_Us_Apart.mp3 |
| 21:47.28 | Jayce^ | tensai, I know most used the google api |
| 21:47.36 | harleypig | I think what I was thinking of was Tuvan Throat Singing |
| 21:54.04 | levi | harleypig: Somehow that track got stuck right after some music I play frequently in iTunes, so I frequently have to turn my attention back to this computer and hit stop before my ears start bleeding. |
| 21:55.53 | xbmodder_ | Tuvan danana! |
| 21:56.20 | xbmodder_ | goozbach: ... umm not really... I would rather be Q.. |
| 21:56.23 | TimRiker | tensai: is used the old perl modules which did screen scraping, the new module uses the api and needs a registered key, I've not registered apt/ibot/jbot/purl at this point. |
| 21:56.29 | xbmodder_ | goozbach: but I'm not white ;-) |
| 21:56.45 | harleypig | :D levi |
| 21:56.48 | harleypig | sorry ... |
| 21:59.19 | mrpull- | xbmodder: does Q get the ladies? |
| 21:59.52 | xbmodder_ | good point |
| 22:00.32 | xbmodder_ | bbiaf all |
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| 22:09.36 | harleypig | http://www.fishinghurts.com/feat-newcomic.asp |
| 22:09.37 | brac | [FishingHurts.com >> PETA's New Comic] |
| 22:09.51 | harleypig | Your Daddy Kills Animals!!! |
| 22:11.52 | tensai | and he eats them, too! oh, the horror! |
| 22:12.16 | tensai | if man wasn't supposed to eat animals, why did God make them so yummy? |
| 22:12.40 | scott | so tags are the big thing with del.icio.us and flickr, but has anyone found something that allows you to jot down notes with tags? I want something like del.icio.us but where I can create my own content and save and search it |
| 22:18.49 | harleypig | scott: Me too ... I've not been able to find anything like that ... I've been seriously considering writing something myself. |
| 22:18.54 | harleypig | in my copious free time. |
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| 22:24.06 | Tene | tensai: if men weren't supposed to rape women, why did God make them so pretty? |
| 22:28.24 | harleypig | what? |
| 22:28.33 | harleypig | how in the world does that equate? |
| 22:28.44 | Tene | very poorly. |
| 22:29.03 | harleypig | oh ... sorry ... missed the <sarcastic> tags ... :] |
| 22:29.42 | Tene | it works as an analogy that people accept if they don't look too closely, though. |
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| 22:34.09 | harleypig | pfff ... Don't have to look closely ... |
| 22:34.40 | graphyx | TimRiker: You can get a key good for a 1000 queries for free. |
| 22:38.55 | harleypig | graphyx: Isn't that 1000 a day? |
| 22:42.31 | harleypig | Hey! Pandora recognized "Soggy Bottom Boys"! |
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| 22:53.34 | Hhhhh | hello, I am having problems with sound in doom 3 and quake 4, and I know it is possible to fix (I was helped with it once, a long time ago), and it's something about using alsa or oss, does anybody know how to fix it? |
| 22:54.46 | mrpull- | Hhhhh: First grab your XP discs |
| 22:55.13 | Hhhhh | mrpull-, I have them here |
| 22:55.25 | Hhhhh | I'm installing quake 4 demo right now |
| 22:55.45 | Hhhhh | and i'm having the same problem with garbled sound that I had in doom 3 |
| 22:56.01 | Hhhhh | I've been helped with this in the past, a few months ago, I can't remember how the magic is though |
| 22:56.38 | Tene | check your IRC logs? |
| 22:56.42 | Hhhhh | back then it was doom 3 in FC4, now it's quake 4 demo in suse 10 |
| 22:56.56 | Hhhhh | tene, it's a long time and several reinstalls ago |
| 22:57.09 | Tene | you don't preserve IRC logs across reinstalls? |
| 22:57.19 | tensai | Hhhhh: are you using alsa with oss emulation? I know that combination doesn't work with quake 3. |
| 22:57.26 | Hhhhh | Tene, no |
| 22:57.35 | Tene | pfft, non-loser! |
| 22:57.59 | Hhhhh | tensai, I'm not sure, this is default SUSE 10.0 install |
| 22:58.26 | Hhhhh | I remember that in FC4 I could choose that in control center in KDE, but it seems to be a bit different in suse 10 |
| 22:59.03 | tensai | Hhhhh: I've never used suse so I can't say for sure. lsmod will show you what modules are loaded. if you see snd-* then you're using alsa. |
| 22:59.29 | tensai | I don't even know that doom 3 doesn't use alsa or that oss emulation hasn't been fixed |
| 23:02.56 | Hhhhh | tensai, I have several lines in lsmod that say snd |
| 23:03.14 | tensai | then you're using alsa, which isn't surprising |
| 23:03.45 | Hhhhh | and the idea is not to use it? |
| 23:06.52 | tensai | possibly. I know that alsa used to have a problem when programs would mmap the oss sound device. I don't know if that's the case here or not. It wouldn't hurt to try oss though. |
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| 23:07.20 | tensai | elg may know |
| 23:08.13 | Uncle_Jesse | TimRiker: you in here? |
| 23:08.59 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone know where I can get the source code to ibot? |
| 23:09.01 | elg | what do I know? |
| 23:09.07 | Uncle_Jesse | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.44 | Jayce^ | she's a blootbot |
| 23:09.52 | Jayce^ | that's where you can get the code |
| 23:10.07 | Uncle_Jesse | is that on sf.net? |
| 23:10.23 | Jayce^ | ~ibot |
| 23:10.24 | ibot | it has been said that ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 23:10.34 | tensai | ~source |
| 23:10.37 | ibot | To build Debian packages from source code: first, add a deb-src line to your sources.list file. Then "apt-get build-dep _pkg_" and "apt-get -b source _pkg_" to retrieve the build-dependencies, and the source. The resulting .deb files will be in `pwd`. |
| 23:10.48 | tensai | ~blootbot |
| 23:10.50 | ibot | blootbot is probably an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. Patches welcome, submit on SF or mailto:Tim@Rikers.org, or http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/,. I am a blootbot |
| 23:11.00 | tensai | there we go. knew it was in there somewhere |
| 23:11.03 | Uncle_Jesse | ibot: thanks |
| 23:11.03 | ibot | Uncle_Jesse: no worries |
| 23:11.08 | Uncle_Jesse | thanks guys |
| 23:13.39 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone know if the code to ibot has been modified from blootbot's at all? |
| 23:14.42 | tensai | since TimRiker is the project admin, I would think it unlikely |
| 23:17.49 | Hhhhh | guys, thanks for your help |
| 23:18.08 | Hhhhh | I just needed to start quake 4 demo with this option: +set s_driver oss |
| 23:19.16 | mrpull- | Hhhhh: i may have to grab the Q4 demo... I never did finish doom 3 |
| 23:20.45 | Hhhhh | mrpull-, I liked Doom 3 quite a bit |
| 23:21.00 | Hhhhh | and quake 4 demo is ok, i'd need to see the rest of the game |
| 23:21.07 | Hhhhh | but again, doom 3 demo did not show much either |
| 23:21.22 | Hhhhh | the rest of the game was much better than what was on the demo |
| 23:22.36 | Hhhhh | now I'm gonna install ut2004 in my new suse 10 x86_64 install ;) |
| 23:44.03 | maquis | tensai: tis ok... i can't get my graphics card working well enough for them :) |
